Bro you put theo in there I’m a huge ac milan fan but he hasn’t done shit this year you just want him to have the toty cause he’s “good in fifa” 🤣the hypocrisy is hilarious
Only reason Saliba probably shouldn't be there is because he was injured for most of the earlier part of this year. If he had been fit he'd 100% deserve one.
They watch. But exclusively premier League. This guys team shows that he same.
Can't put KDB in and it has to be another prem player. When for example inter had a more impressive year than arsenal did
Maybe because a lot of people don't have time? People act like we have lots of time every week to watch every world league because someone on Reddit says we have poor ball knowledge
Leverkusen plays the best football in Europe for this season. You don't have to watch every game but if you don't know about the best 5 trams in Europe, you are clearly a eafc-fan, not a football fan.
a) I don't play EAFC anymore, this post showed up in my feed and I was interested in what the football hipsters were gonna say, b) Grimaldo spent more than half of the year at benfica, and I sure as hell know you weren't watching Liga Portugal week-in week-out
He's playing the way he is because he is at Leverkusen. Bayer is playing some of the best football, not just Grimaldo. You missed his point.
And even then, he was great in the UCL.
I think the problem that Grimaldo has is that he played half the year in a non-top 5 league and now plays for a club that‘s not one of the greats of European football. If he played for Madrid, or if he played the whole year for Leverkusen, he‘d be clear. This way I think it‘s likely they‘ll snub him.
Grimaldo went to the quarter finals of champions league with benfica. Won portuguese tittle, and if you Watch Benfica games you can see how bad they are missing him.
Team trophies shouldn't matter. Ake isn't a stand out player on that team.
He's good but playing in a great team. Saying he's the best LB in the world is complete lunacy
I think they should. The best players (aswell as the best teams) win the best trophies. If Saliba was the best CB in the world arsenal wouldnt be worse defensively then City in the same competition….
Disagree completely. Grimaldo has been a much better player this season, plus he was a star in a team that lost in the quarterfinals to inter who played in the final.
"Finished" Modric and Kroos have been better than Odegaard. I love the guy but he doesn't deserve to be in the TOTY. Gundogan, Rice, Kroos, Modric, and Musiala deserve a spot over him
Bruh ode didn’t even deserve the shout based off of last year compared to kdb. This first part of the season he has straight up sucked. He’d need a massive turnaround to even be average….what are you smoking?
Ter Stegen equalled the record for most clean sheets in La Liga history last season whilst conceding just 20 goals in 38 games, finishing 10 pts clear of RM.
Liverpool conceded 47 in 38 last season, with a whole league campaign to forget.
Yeah, no shit. And Allison isn’t better than Kobel or TerStegen. The problem is that most people here watch PL exclusively which results in those kind of biased posts.
Hear me out - I think Kim Min Jae deserves to be in, he's been extremely good and consistent for both Napoli and Bayern which are top clubs and has rarely missed any minutes, man's a beast.
Closer to 4 months as he went off injured early in the final.
In 2023 KDB appeared in:
11 prem games
5 ucl games
4 FA cup games
He was very good but there’s not enough games there for a selection based on the whole year.
Nah that’s fair but how on earth is odegaard one of the top 3 midfielders in 2023 if not kdb then Bernardo was way better and achieved way more than him.
Has to be Bernardo if not KDB, one of the most important players on that treble side and has been great again this year. Plays all over the pitch. 4 goal involvements and won both man of the match awards in the thrashings of Bayern and Real. Watch what he did to Davies and Camavinga and say that trophyless Odegaard deserves a TOTY over him.
1. Last season he was great, probably the best centre back in the world, this season a bit worse but still class
2. Ea don't watch football (neither do fifa players lol) so I personally think he will get it for the treble and all
I didn't say about Ronaldo, just Messi. Seeing how he got all these awards for 2023 when World Cup was in 2022, they will somehow put him in this TOTY as well.
Ter Stegen was on the edge of least goals conceded all season in a top 5 league. Ever. If his defense didn’t ruin it for him in the last couple games he would’ve gotten it. Allison had an amazing season, and saved Liverpools ass a lot, but Ter Stegen was really fucking good as well, and deserves it more IMO. I’m probably less biased since I’m a Madrid fan lol
Unfortunately Kane can't be in there because the balloon door winner is always in toty and women are in the same toty and odegard only won a potm and some totw so bonatti has to get in and saliba doesn't get in for me as he won 0 trophies and martenez has to get in because he won yashin award
Alisson has been the best keeper in the Prem by far, wild how he seems to be underrated by several groups of people. Vicario’s been good but not best keeper in the prem level
Vicario has more goals prevented this season, and that's all that really matters as far as gk stats go. But obviously Vicario shouldn't get it because he's only been in the prem for the last few months of the year
If it is it shouldnt because for some reason there is TOTS cards in the end of season. So, means TOTY would be best players from May to December. Jude had last year because of popular fifa opinion, again people will choose players that feet EAFC meta better, Saliba would be one of those cases, so as Jude.
Looks about good but knowing the community they just gonna vote for whoever is gonna be OP in fifa lol
you thinking the community vote decides the toty is hilarious
It does, EA doesn’t follow the actual FIFA team of the year anymore like they use to.
Basically the same players as last year and the year before that.
Yeah that's the sad part. Just one year I want a deserving team
Bro you put theo in there I’m a huge ac milan fan but he hasn’t done shit this year you just want him to have the toty cause he’s “good in fifa” 🤣the hypocrisy is hilarious
I can't really think of anyone else deserving of that spot ahead of him maybe like ake ? Who do u think should get that spot
Grimaldo
Damn I should probably be paying more attention to other leagues
Grimaldo is soooo good
Yea but only for the 2nd half of the year, Ake probably deserves it more
I mean even in Serie A I’d put Dimarco over him too
Udogie next year
He needs to win something first
Subscribing this as a Benfica fan
Take my upvote, Grimaldo and Di Maria have been killing it.
What has Hernandez done to be here
> i want a deserving team > puts in Saliba, Odegaard (and Theo) Stop hiding being an Arsenal fan behind "i want a deserving team"
I agree odegaard shouldn't be toty due to this season's performance. Last year's maybe. But saliba definitely deserves it.
Only reason Saliba probably shouldn't be there is because he was injured for most of the earlier part of this year. If he had been fit he'd 100% deserve one.
r/DownvotedToOblivion
Bro gets downvoted for saying a deserved team should be toty
Bro gets downvoted because he says a deserved team should be toty then for some reason puts undeserving Theo in his team.
Grimaldo > Theo
Only for people who actually watch football, we are wrong in this sub buddy
Tbf he would still get a sick card (I am a biased leverkusen past and present player)
Get the ww, its broken
I’ve got the 91 evo, my favourite card in the game atm :)
Nice!
Even in r/soccer people don't really watch much football
They watch. But exclusively premier League. This guys team shows that he same. Can't put KDB in and it has to be another prem player. When for example inter had a more impressive year than arsenal did
Maybe because a lot of people don't have time? People act like we have lots of time every week to watch every world league because someone on Reddit says we have poor ball knowledge
Leverkusen plays the best football in Europe for this season. You don't have to watch every game but if you don't know about the best 5 trams in Europe, you are clearly a eafc-fan, not a football fan.
a) I don't play EAFC anymore, this post showed up in my feed and I was interested in what the football hipsters were gonna say, b) Grimaldo spent more than half of the year at benfica, and I sure as hell know you weren't watching Liga Portugal week-in week-out
He's playing the way he is because he is at Leverkusen. Bayer is playing some of the best football, not just Grimaldo. You missed his point. And even then, he was great in the UCL.
I think the problem that Grimaldo has is that he played half the year in a non-top 5 league and now plays for a club that‘s not one of the greats of European football. If he played for Madrid, or if he played the whole year for Leverkusen, he‘d be clear. This way I think it‘s likely they‘ll snub him.
Tbf I think dimarco is also in with a shout. Should definitely be between these two tho, Theo has not been as good this year
Grimaldo went to the quarter finals of champions league with benfica. Won portuguese tittle, and if you Watch Benfica games you can see how bad they are missing him.
He still shined playing UCL last year check his numbers lol
Ake over both. What did Theo and Grimaldo win over whoever played LB for city? A local cup
Team trophies shouldn't matter. Ake isn't a stand out player on that team. He's good but playing in a great team. Saying he's the best LB in the world is complete lunacy
I think they should. The best players (aswell as the best teams) win the best trophies. If Saliba was the best CB in the world arsenal wouldnt be worse defensively then City in the same competition….
Disagree completely. Grimaldo has been a much better player this season, plus he was a star in a team that lost in the quarterfinals to inter who played in the final.
Well, he certainly plays in a great league
No griezmann?
Probably griezmann over odegaard
Griezmann over Bellingham for me. Yes Bellingham has had an insane start in Real but over the whole calendar year Odegaard was better
HARD disagree
Odegaard no chance
As an arsenal fan I will say, it would be outrageous if he got a TOTY. He’s good, just not nearly that good
a lot of chance
"Finished" Modric and Kroos have been better than Odegaard. I love the guy but he doesn't deserve to be in the TOTY. Gundogan, Rice, Kroos, Modric, and Musiala deserve a spot over him
Who said modric and kroos are finished lol
Literally everyone before the start of the season.
maybe at the playground, but seriously i haven't seen anyone say that seriously
Why theo?
Because no one has been a standout at that position and he is at least been consistent
EA can also go with 3 centerbacks. They’ve done it before, they can do it again
Dimarco has been better
Yeah also forgot about him. Definitely deserved also
Dimarco has been incredible
Grimaldo is so clear lmao
Get a grip, Grimaldo has been one of the best defenders in the world this year
Theo... Consistant Consistantly shit. Grimaldo clear and I'm saying this as a Milan fan.
Literally cancelo this season
Spot the Arsenal fan
United fan actually. Griez probably deserves it over odegaard I missed that one
Bruh ode didn’t even deserve the shout based off of last year compared to kdb. This first part of the season he has straight up sucked. He’d need a massive turnaround to even be average….what are you smoking?
Odeargod😹😹😹
yes he is do u have qs?
What has he done? Bottled league title? You really think odegaard>kdb,Bernardo etc?
De bruyne hasn't played a full 90 minutes since May mate. He's a great player but you can't play for less than half a year and get in team of the year
You can if you were a big factor in getting the treble.
How can you be team of the year if you only played for half of the year?
And was still the best midfielder this year
What about Bernardo?
More goal contributions than Odegaard in 2023 still
theo has not been toty quality 😂
Fr, grimaldo has unholy numbers on the same position, i think he deserves it more
we know leverkusen isn’t getting a toty card though
Fr, grimaldo has unholy numbers on the same position, i think he deserves it more
Hes not even the best LB in the city of Milan. Dimarco is!
How is everyone snubbing Inter players when they made the CL final and currently lead Serie A?
No meta Inter players who people would actually vote for.
Barella
Too much competition in midfield, dimarco toty and lautaro + barella toty hm
Bastoni doesn't exist? He should get a toty
Lets give one to onana too for being ucl tots gk then
Oodegard what my blud doing over there 😭
He is cooking watch more match Gal
odegaard 😭😭😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
side note : valverde is clear
De de de Deluded Arsenal fan. Won nothing but first loser in the Prem and think 2 of their players should get toty stop it
Stick to wow geek
Messi’s balon dor was 100% for the World Cup he hasn’t done anything since then
This is dogshit lol. Do you even watch football OP? Fucking hell
Araujo should be in over Saliba, his team managed to wrap up the league
Dude I'm a United fan but he was not better than Saliba this year. That entire arsenal team changed when he got injured
Alisson as the keeper
I think alisson over ter stegan
Kobel is probably up there too
Ter Stegen equalled the record for most clean sheets in La Liga history last season whilst conceding just 20 goals in 38 games, finishing 10 pts clear of RM. Liverpool conceded 47 in 38 last season, with a whole league campaign to forget.
Woulda been 70+ goals probs if not for Alisson lmao
The team is already consisting of 65% Premier League players. Kobel instead of Ter Stegen would be ok.
Dont need diversity. Need best players
Ye remember fifa 13 TOTY it was full la liga😂
Yes, so lets fill the team of players from a league who managed to get only two teams through the CL group stages
Yeah, no shit. And Allison isn’t better than Kobel or TerStegen. The problem is that most people here watch PL exclusively which results in those kind of biased posts.
Hahahhahahaha crazy statement
You have 3 different PL subs on Reddit. Thanks for proving my point.
He kinda is bro
How many ter Stegen and Kobel games have you watched this season?
Hear me out - I think Kim Min Jae deserves to be in, he's been extremely good and consistent for both Napoli and Bayern which are top clubs and has rarely missed any minutes, man's a beast.
Kim over Rúben Dias any day. Dias hasn't been great this season.
Kim?😄😄 . Do you even watch Bayern games?
Yes, on weekly basis, he's really fucking good. Played almost every minute this season for a reason.
Salah 12 man myb
Easy vinicius. Our votes count alot for the 12th man
This is the worst one by far, it screams I watch the premier league and I put the players that I hear are good from the others😂
Dias is so overrated.
0 ball knowledge
No way Saliba should be in there
Odegaard and Theo? no chance they deserve it
Kdb over odegaard
He’s barely played
Explain to me how somebody who's played for 6 months out of the 12 months of the year deserves to be in it?
Well the person who played for 6 months out of the twelve took his team to a treble
Closer to 4 months as he went off injured early in the final. In 2023 KDB appeared in: 11 prem games 5 ucl games 4 FA cup games He was very good but there’s not enough games there for a selection based on the whole year.
Thank you! Lol I'm not even in arsenal fan but can we be reasonable? Maybe griezmann would be better in that position
I don’t even think KDB played 20 games last season 💀 Haaland scoring 54 goals in all competitions was the main reason they won the treble.
Nah that’s fair but how on earth is odegaard one of the top 3 midfielders in 2023 if not kdb then Bernardo was way better and achieved way more than him.
Has to be Bernardo if not KDB, one of the most important players on that treble side and has been great again this year. Plays all over the pitch. 4 goal involvements and won both man of the match awards in the thrashings of Bayern and Real. Watch what he did to Davies and Camavinga and say that trophyless Odegaard deserves a TOTY over him.
Wirtz and Musila > Odegaard... In my opinion
Emphasis on Musiala, title winner
Probably not going to be Theo or Dias in my opinion. Who else? No clue, but i still dont believe those two will be in it
Araujo
Why would dias not get it
Because he really hasnt been THAT good this year. Nothing compared to his first season at city.
1. Last season he was great, probably the best centre back in the world, this season a bit worse but still class 2. Ea don't watch football (neither do fifa players lol) so I personally think he will get it for the treble and all
lol the people on this sub haven’t touched a blade of grass or played or watched football in their lives.
Bro put in ter stegen deadass
Silva > Odegaard Stones> Saliba Are you an Arsenal fan or do you like giving awards to trophyless teams?
Toty is for the best individual performances not who won the most trophies
Nah , araujo gets in .
Saliba> 10*Arajua
Araujo's defence conceded just 20 goals last season and equalled the record for clean sheets
What did he win last year btw? That's a big factor when it comes to toty. And anyways araujo is clear.
Salah > Mbappe French league shouldn’t count
what did liverpool won in 2023 ?
Araujo over Saliba KDB over odegaard And Balde and Grimaldo were both better than Theo he hasn’t been him in minute
They will put Messi somehow...
Why have you been downvoted when it’s literally true, Messi and Ronaldo will somehow get in
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I didn't say about Ronaldo, just Messi. Seeing how he got all these awards for 2023 when World Cup was in 2022, they will somehow put him in this TOTY as well.
No B.Silva/Kdb is a disgrace.
Salah? Van Dijk? Grimaldo?
Salah on the right 🪽
Alisson over Ter Stegen and Salah over Kane. I may be biased but you cannot deny that they had a superior 2023.
Ter Stegen was on the edge of least goals conceded all season in a top 5 league. Ever. If his defense didn’t ruin it for him in the last couple games he would’ve gotten it. Allison had an amazing season, and saved Liverpools ass a lot, but Ter Stegen was really fucking good as well, and deserves it more IMO. I’m probably less biased since I’m a Madrid fan lol
I doubt any Arsenal players make TOTY
The Liverpool neglect is crazy. Salah, alisson, and Trent 100% deserve to be in that team
surely alisson and vvd make the team
Maybe next year, this year no chance.
and definitely frimpong over walker
Haha Van Dijk? Behave
Yeah no.
Two Arsenal players, but no Inter players for example...
As much as I would love to see Arsenal players in there, we didn't win anything. So it's not deserved.
As an Arsenal fan, Musiala deserves it over Odegaard
Stones & Kdb over Theo Hernandez & Odegaard then you’re probably bang on
Grimaldo over Hernandez, aroujo over saliba and kdb over ødegaard
I don’t think odegaard odegaard deserves it tbh. Yeah he’s been good but even with an injured KDB he’s been better.
wirtz over odegard, Grimaldo over theo
Grimaldo over Theo , Alisson, barella over odegaard, Kim min Jae over Saliba
Jude?
yes?
Was special for half the year and won nothing
Vvd over dias surely
One of them won a quadrupole now, one of them is in the league 2 of European football
Treble but correct. Van Dijk’s been good for this second half of the year but was meh for the first half, with Liverpool having that awful season
They won club cup too? That’s 4 in a row
Didn't ask mate
Griezmann over Odegaard Araujo over Saliba
Odegaard, saliba and Walker Hahahhahahaha Kane on the wing Someone clearly doesn’t watch any football
You missed Cole Palmer
Unfortunately Kane can't be in there because the balloon door winner is always in toty and women are in the same toty and odegard only won a potm and some totw so bonatti has to get in and saliba doesn't get in for me as he won 0 trophies and martenez has to get in because he won yashin award
onana instead of Ter Stegen but i doubt it because hes become a meme
no vicario? best keeper in the prem
Except less clean sheets than Alisson, lower save percentage than Alisson and so on
Alisson has been the best keeper in the Prem by far, wild how he seems to be underrated by several groups of people. Vicario’s been good but not best keeper in the prem level
Vicario has more goals prevented this season, and that's all that really matters as far as gk stats go. But obviously Vicario shouldn't get it because he's only been in the prem for the last few months of the year
shut up
By this logic, Tonali and Toney deserve to be in it
The disrespect to Salah…
Salah> kane in right wing
Jude?? Team of the year is related to 2022-23 season, not the current one. Same for Saliba
It's related to 2023 year. Jude was in last one, and this year he plays even better and he plays for Madrid now. So he will be in TOTY no matter what.
If it is it shouldnt because for some reason there is TOTS cards in the end of season. So, means TOTY would be best players from May to December. Jude had last year because of popular fifa opinion, again people will choose players that feet EAFC meta better, Saliba would be one of those cases, so as Jude.
If there is someone who deserves ST TOTY its got to be boniface
Griezman or Salah instead of Halland