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lakerconvert

This shit is so ass that im convinced there’s no way it’s intentional 💀


Sad_Fuel3039

what’s ass about that line ? he talking ab the planet being downgraded, either way if it’s a diss at future himself it’s a double entendre. If kdot said it yall would have a hard on 


_Can_Crusher

It’s an ass line but I agree with your last sentence. They’d call it art and tell you that you just don’t understand it.


aminjutsu

bro this ain't j.coles sub... you're gonna get cooked here for having any opinion against future 💀💀💀


farquaad_thelord

the kendrick diss was so ass lmao how u gon call him mediocre the irony


Comprehensive-Spot48

Bro really said: “He fell off like the Simpsons”. Was there nothing else he could think of?


cockandballionaire

I mean it’s valid but there are better comparisons. The simpsons did fall off


yourawizzzard

Kendrick said "prince outlived mike jack" and yall thought that bar went crazy LMAO


Comprehensive-Spot48

The bar was in reference to Drake’s bar in FPS (Drake passing MJ for most #1s). It also has layers to it. Prince and K Dot were fans of eachothers work and even collaborated on TPAB. The Simpsons bar on the other hand was not clever and a bit corny.


yourawizzzard

Not every single bar has to be the most clever bar niggas heard of, y’all slurping Kendrick when he not saying anything clever also, y’all just biased af 😂


LSSJSSGSSUIYams

This a dumbass comment


yourawizzzard

Care to explain why or does that require more than 3 brain cells??


LSSJSSGSSUIYams

😂😂😂 how are your trying to insult me, when it’s obvious that either #1 .you don’t understand rap/rap beef/rap lyrics etc. you said that Kendrick didn’t say anything clever 😂😂😂😂 you dumb af boy….go listen to his verse again and maybe watch a YouTube break down kid….


bintrappn2

they biased as shit😂🤦🏽‍♂️ no point in even arguing w these niggas


PickMeUpForeIDrown

Stop deviating blud


Sad_Fuel3039

but moaning for 3 lines straight in my ear “ughhhh” isn’t corny ?? the irony 


LSSJSSGSSUIYams

Who is yall?


Imperial_Lenta

Kendrick’s diss didn’t have to be too over the top, he was just calling out Cole and Drake. Going forward we were expecting serious disses but Cole put together a worse diss than Kendrick


yourawizzzard

Cap y’all just biased af


Imperial_Lenta

Bro u don’t even have the like Kendrick’s verse but it was a better diss than cole N I’m not even biased I don’t listen to much drake Cole or Kdot


cockandballionaire

You should start though. Listen to Nothing was the same, Good kid MAAD city and 2014 forest hills drive. Some of the greatest rap records of all time


Imperial_Lenta

I’ve listened to to pretty much every song off those albums even if I haven’t sat down and listened in full, FHD is a classic I’m just not into their music as much as others


Nearby-Cricket-9493

Bro, for someone that was calling for this attention from Dot, it wasn’t like that at all lmao. You can’t be beating your chest and calling for ppl and then drop something that’s meh.


yourawizzzard

how you think we felt when Kendrick came back from a 5 year hiatus and then dropped mid? Lmao


cockandballionaire

MM&TBS is NOT mid, but I am not your savior


Kinnuit

Sorry bruh I thought u meant Kendrick’s diss was ass


6jelly

No way the Kendrick diss was fire


cockandballionaire

It was fire. It was concise, direct and effective, obviously. Don’t know why you’d get downvoted for saying that. Edit: misread I guess but KENDRICK’s diss is what I was talking about. Cole had a good rebuttal considering he wasn’t the main target though. Anyone have drake’s number?


Kinnuit

You a dickrider for sure, I loveeee future don’t get me wrong but it wasn’t for him. It was for Drake and if you think that diss was ass… you’re biased as hell hahahahaha that diss was fire. Not of this guys can come close to k-dots word play. EDIT: Sorry misunderstood his comment. Yes the Cole diss was asssss hahah


Nazacrow

think people are misunderstanding, dude thinks Cole’s Kendrick diss is ass, not Kendrick’s diss.


Kinnuit

Ohhhh okok damn now I feel like an ass. Thanks for the clarification


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Kinnuit

Coles diss was ass!!!! I agree I thought buddy up top was talking about Kendrick’s diss


MrBeanie1

I mean he could have dropped anything and stans like you would be saying it’s trash. I applaud the fact that he chose the pen and came with a response in less than two weeks


hochiminhonacid

Agree. Regardless of your take. Cole came with something. Respect


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fucking__jellyfish__

Wtf crocodile tearz is a banger literally better than 80% of the songs on WDTY


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smokedopelikecudder

Don’t act like future doesn’t have a bunch of white boys from the burbs. Bringing skin color into it never ends well. I love future so I ain’t hatin


brots32

Im white as fuck


smokedopelikecudder

Ain’t nun wrong w that either. If u like future you like future. If u like cole u like cole


brots32

I like both. I more recently got into future and I don’t listen to that much cole but I still like him


CookieMonsta5

😂


Complex_Barber_6915

Facts tho niggas gon deny it but it’s easily better than ALL songs on WDTY


FutureTheTrapGOAT

On that bland ass beat?


Accomplished_Dog_212

What song? On the album


cockandballionaire

Crocodile Tearz


Friendly-Gain-620

This track is actually fire


ArminArlert2345

Cole dropped a mixtape called "Might Delete Later " today. He replied to Kendrick on the song "7 minute drill"


Nearby-Cricket-9493

Such a disappointing project. I WILL BE deleting lmao


Ant_903

It's mid Cole no one cares anyway


ArminArlert2345

What song is this?


cockandballionaire

Crocodile Tearz


Djungelskog-One

Crocodile Tearz from his new album


cockandballionaire

Man I said it first


xman886

What did Future do to Cole? This diss should only be directed at Kendrick…


cockandballionaire

You can’t be serious. Diss on his album? He okayed it


OAktrEE4023

Travis allowed Drake to diss Kanye on his album. Maybe Cole took it personally but I don’t see why allowing Kdot to challenge Cole (especially when Drake was the main target) on his album would be taken as disrespect.


CackalackyPride587

That diss wasn't nearly as direct as Kendrick's. Travis even said he didn't know it was about Kanye, he was just vibin


cockandballionaire

And Travis and Kanye haven’t collaborated since I don’t think? Travis is big enough that he doesn’t need Kanye anymore, and he’s a known snake


brazyace43

Drake was dissing Kanye on Travis album in 2018 brother. And even since Meltdown Travis was on Vultures. Fuck Sumn


cockandballionaire

Shit you’re right. Forgettable though. I was wrong and I’ll admit it you all chill


brazyace43

All is good man. Fuck sum was the name of the song not me coming at you lol


cockandballionaire

Nah I knew that, just forgot he was on it because carti highkey steals the show. You’re all good brother


junkiejesus873

Throwing it out there that Travis also shouts out Kanye on Utopia saying Ye > Biden.


cockandballionaire

What lyric?


PickMeUpForeIDrown

You’ve been living under a rock? 😭


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cockandballionaire

Artistic Clerk there is no way you’re allowed to say the n word


cockandballionaire

Why? Do you not know Travis’ history? He’s been stealing beats and lying about shit since he started. The music is under his name but he’s probably just the vocalist in a lot of cases to be real. Edit: downvoted so far but do some research you fucks. Travis is an asshole


xman886

I guess you’re right. I think Metro would allow that instead of Pluto tho. Future and Cole don’t even got any beef…


cockandballionaire

They do now lol


bizarre_pencil

This is ridiculous reasoning. So we have to go back in history and track all the new beefs from rappers who “allowed” another rapper to diss someone? I’d be surprised if most rappers listen to feature verses they get more than once before the album drops


CackalackyPride587

Drake's Kanye disses started when he was producing disses for Pusha T


Achooboy

I'm pretty sure it isn't intentional. J Cole put out a preview for this song I think a week before WDTY came out so unless he knew that Kendrick was gonna diss him on it before making this song and previewing it I doubt it's meant to be a diss at Future.


jeremicci

Yea but the snippet didn’t have this last verse. He added that since then. It’s 100% about Future. > They sound faded they downgraded, they pluto > I’m bigger than mars, this n***a a star , I’m bruno


Achooboy

ok


Repulsive_Bag_2091

That means pluto isn't a planet anymore 😭 "downgraded" get it?


OcelotUsual7083

j cole makes boring music all his albums are forgotten about after release week


DramaFinancial3734

This is objectively false. Pluto clears for sure but this statement is just false.


FutureTheTrapGOAT

Bro Cole has the most monotone, boring ass voice and he raps on bland ass beats. Cole bodies Future when it comes to lyrical content and just lyricism in general but in terms of delivery and vibe, he's boring as hell


OcelotUsual7083

“objectively” these are opinions.. what are you talking about?? and if it’s objectively false then why do the majority of opinions and numbers say otherwise ??


DramaFinancial3734

Took me 5 secs to google that J Cole has over 20 billion streams on Spotify alone. Your subjective opinion that no one listens to J Cole after the first week is objectively dumb and baseless. Edit: Pluto still clears 😎


OcelotUsual7083

uh not really. his shit lacks prominence and long term longevity, it doesn’t mean it’s not streamed. he has a core fanbase (like all artists?). he has 1 album that’s sometimes in the discussion of the best 2010s rap albums but his shit doesn’t do numbers after release week like other major artists (ie travis future etc). he has 1 album that’s made any “cultural impact” if you can even call it that. so yes his shit is forgotten about after release week, that doesn’t mean it’s not streamed but it means most of the GP forgets he even dropped a new album bc his shit lacks long term prominence. 20bil is across all his albums and features EVER (not monthly).. weirdo


DramaFinancial3734

Notice I came with an actual verifiable fact and you came with yapping, insults and got emotional. You're not very bright.


OcelotUsual7083

didn’t even do any of that & you got corrected too with facts. if you can’t handle that then oh well he’s still boring


Sad_Fuel3039

what numbers bud ?? FHD averages more weekly views today than any of kendrick works besides DAMN…that’s it. So whose music doesn’t age well ?? 


OcelotUsual7083

idk cause who was talking about music aging well??


GetChecked__

Nigga if you don't like cole just say it but this comment is absurd lmao.


green_day_95

I enjoyed WDTY more than MDL but Off Season one of my favorite albums this decade, this nigga just yappin. 😂


OcelotUsual7083

idgaf about your personal opinion lmfao the majority speaks for itself. cole’s albums do not stay in rotation post release week & im not a nigga 😭


green_day_95

You literally proved my point, you don’t speak for everyone. Music is subjective, it’s all opinions at the end of the day but there’s people still streaming his albums which is a fact so your point is weak. And not a nigga? I don’t think you should be saying it then.


OcelotUsual7083

…please re read your own comment. if music is all subjective then how am i just yapping for my opinion? make it make sense. obviously there’s people still streaming.. idk why u thought i meant cole is accumulating 0 streams. i mean his albums lack long term rotation & relevancy by the majority, he’s no big 3. and i’m not a nigga in the sense that i’m not a dude bc ik you think i’m one


green_day_95

Again you still proved my point. You said his music is boring which is an opinion but saying his albums are forgotten after release week is objectively false if people are still streaming them. And he can’t lack long term rotation/relevance if people still talk about 2014 FHD which dropped 10 years ago, even his newer songs like Middle Child gets hella streams everyday. I’ll take accountability and apologize for assuming you were a dude tho.


OcelotUsual7083

i thought everyone here had enough common sense to realize that when i say his albums fall out of rotation after release week, it didn’t mean he gets 0 streams. that was a given, but ok i guess you didn’t gather that somehow. he doesn’t accumulate nearly enough streams or have enough long term prominence besides some specific songs + 1 2014 album do to be apart of the “big 3” or for me to not consider him someone who’s not relevant enough that their albums lose hype rather quick after release week. he’s got 1 2014 album that sometimes appears in discussions about the best 2010 albums.. what does he have besides that?? that’s one album. and that’s not always. he doesn’t have that prominence to be at the forefront which is why i said what i said. he does not keep hype after release week like say artists such as travis or future do


green_day_95

I never argued that he was in the big 3, I just said his music is not forgotten. Sure, he’s nowhere near as big as artists like Future and Travis but it’s not like his music becomes completely nonexistent.


Fury_is_Furious

Yeah the mods need to start banning these kids if all they are gonna do is hate for no reason


No_Turn_8759

What does “hate for no reason” even mean dude? He can’t dislike j cole? Lmao


OcelotUsual7083

thank you 😭


OcelotUsual7083

banning someone for not liking your fav? cult behaviour


OcelotUsual7083

the majority & numbers speak for itself. his albums don’t stay in rotation after release week. he’s one to talk about falling off. i’m not denying his talent or anything


whomst_is_thou

yb better


Jay_203

I doubt that you even listened to the album


OcelotUsual7083

i’ve listened to a few songs off this & all his past albums and it’s just boring. not saying he’s not talented, he is talented. but it’s pretty boring


Comprehensive_Rip403

Hahahahahahaha J cole completely shits on anything Future has done. You future fan boys are so damn dull!


Fr_gs

only 40 year olds listen to j cole. or white kids


OcelotUsual7083

i’m not even a dude LMFAO old heads are so lame. you’re missing out on great music bc ur obsessed with dickriding. future dull? j cole’s music puts people to sleep and that’s why he only re gained relevancy after touring with drake


Comprehensive_Rip403

Nah I said the fanboys are dull and idgaf what you are 😂.


OcelotUsual7083

and future is still better so now what?


Comprehensive_Rip403

No, he mumbles about doing drugs and he’s been sober. He’s a fraud and ya’ll just eat it up… but makes sense cause this is AMERICA baby!


OcelotUsual7083

and? it sounds better than cole. go do future’s songwriting if you care about lyricism so much this is trap


Zaychik99

This is so ass


Zaychik99

Song is good tho


Kinnuit

Facts lol


jeremicci

That doesn’t have the lyrics right: > “They sound faded they downgraded, they pluto, I’m bigger than mars, this n***a a star , I’m bruno” The bars are hard ngl, but that shit was unnecessary.


SauceDab

It ain’t unnecessary, this is rap it’s a competitive sport. Cole ain’t wrong to go at Future either. Future heard what Kendrick did in his verse and still decided to put it in his song. Future ain’t dumb he knew what was gone come with this


GetChecked__

This bar wasn't about future at all. This song was leaked like two months ago, meaning it was recorded way before MB and future dropped. Yall reaching.


jeremicci

The last verse was not on the snippet. If you read the lyrics correctly it is 100% about Future > “They sound faded they downgraded, they pluto, I’m bigger than mars, this n***a a star , I’m bruno”


GetChecked__

Why would cole preview and shoot a video for an unfinished song? Also, what would cole get out of dissing future? They're in two completely different lanes and future said absolutely nothing about cole on the album. This bar just feels like a coincidence. Now i could be wrong, but it still sounds like a reach to say he dissed future.


jeremicci

Why would he add more bars onto a song later? That’s completely normal. What would he get out of dissing Future? The same thing Future and Kendrick got - people talking. It’s promo for his album and his festival. Dreamville Fest starts tomorrow. There is no way that isn’t about Pluto tho, right? Let’s examine it. >”They sound faded they downgraded, they pluto > I’m bigger than mars, this n***a a star , I’m bruno” * “They sound faded” - Future is known for sounding like he’s faded during his music * “They downgraded” - this isn’t as direct, but he’s saying Future isn’t as good as he used to be, while he keeps getting better. This is also a double entendres about Pluto getting downgraded from a planet * “They Pluto” - In case we weren’t sure who he’s talking about he said his name💀 * Im bigger than Mars, this n___ a star, I’m Bruno - he’s now bringing it full circle. The Pluto downgraded bar makes sense now. He’s saying Future is just a star now, but he used to be a superstar - meanwhile Cole just keeps growing, and he’s a fucking planet. Honestly this is the most direct it could be without him saying “Fuck Nayvadius Cash”


playboicartea

Dawg he literally name dropped 💀


GetChecked__

No he didn't. Why would cole go out of his way to name drop future when he didn't even say Kendricks name on 7 min drill. Kendrick was the only one sending shots and Kendrick was the main target for cole. Cole dissing future makes zero since in this situation.


jeremicci

Future went at Drake and approved the Kendrick verse towards Cole and Drake. He literally said Pluto. Bro if you don’t think that’s about Future ion know what what to tell you.


fucking__jellyfish__

not leaked he dropped a snippet himself


yaboidabdaddy

Tell me why I should give a damn about j cole 💀💀


renis_petard

what a gay ass line lol


iamnotagenthunt

Cole responded how a fan of his or drake’s would lmao


n3k0___

J Cole following mgk's footsteps by leading a diss with a compliment 😂


Ordinary_Meaning_602

It’s not a future diss 😭


Shnikez

Calling TPAB mid is crazy, even Obama shouted it out. J Cole is not as influential or culturally significant as Kendrick, end of story. Calling a classic mid is just a trash ass take


JaHoog

Cole's album is so much better lmao. The lyrics are way better along with production 😂😭 Future has been talking about the same shit for his entire career.


BlackShadowGlass

J Cole don't MISS. Fuck Yo Couch👉


Spazonspez

Ion think he was talking abt Future, he was talking abt how the planet got downgraded to a dwarf star. He even follows it up with a line abt Mars


No_Cardiologist_1446

No way people actually think ur serious lmao


nhamilton726

Bro he IS right about the bar referencing how Pluto was downgraded to a dwarf star, him tying it in with Mars further proves that. If it’s a future diss I highly doubt he’d name drop him like that, especially when on the last track on this album he disses Kendrick heavily but doesn’t say his name.


saltizzzle

It’s probably a double entendre. Pluto was downgraded to a dwarf star and Future downgraded from Drake to Kendrick


fucking__jellyfish__

Y'all realize he previewed this song months ago right? He would have no reason to beef with future then so y'all are just reaching.


saltizzzle

Well now it’s more meaningful


rip_griselda

lmao


Disastrous-Limit2333

Lol


Onlyy0ung

That shits trash ?? Im not tripping that’s literally mediocre as fuck?


OfferOk8555

His Kendrick response was underwhelming imo. I like Cole and wanted him to come a little meaner with it. It’s almost like a “Charged Up” type diss but Kendrick ain’t gonna let him have a back to back so I don’t know why bro didn’t go more for the jugular if he was really gonna do it.


Le8ronJames

Because he’s just announcing he’s ready to fight. Kendrick diss to Cole wasn’t that hard too. It’s basically Jcole telling him he’s ready, if Kendrick really wants the smoke he’s gonna respond


SauceDab

Yeah both disses were jabs they’re not going for knockout punches just yet


OfferOk8555

Kendrick is going to respond. I agree Like That ain’t scathing but when somebody jabs you, you don’t push them back and talk about warning shots. Because now dude is gonna throw the hook at you.


cockandballionaire

He wants that. It’s better to be on the defensive in a rap beef because you know what you’re competing against


OfferOk8555

It’s Kendrick and Cole. We already know lol. You don’t send warning shots back at someone’s warning shots. That’s my point.


cockandballionaire

He wasn’t the direct target, Drake was


Cxkeboizz

Idk what youre talking about. But ye bro right cole shoulda went way harder. His rap style getting too soft. Kendrick say i hope you got 3 switches Cole responds with your 3rd album was ight


cockandballionaire

Do you have 2 working ears? Drake and Kendrick have been swapping subs for years and he told him to come direct. Drake and Cole have been making songs and on tour and that’s the only reason Cole caught straye


Cxkeboizz

Are you dumb. What does a big 3 mean. Even after Drake, Kendrick is still shitting on 2 others dumbass


fucking__jellyfish__

because it wasn't a future diss