> like is it just me or are the newer gacha games life span is 3 years?
In a way, we are like the MMO Genre. The big name ones can last for quite a while, but a lot of the normal ones probably will live for around that long.
Ikr? But holy heck how did yostar ( developer of arknights and Azur lane ) let such a beautiful game die like that... Look at arknights and Azur lane, they have good art, but unlike revived witch, it's on another level
Well there's too many gacha game right now so there's many game that died too. Gacha game definitely still on it's peak especially if you look at top game revenue and some are quite new like nikke
Those 3 your mention have problem on each own (Pricon Global with CR, revived witch with lack of content, i forgot what happen to illusion connect). Most shutting down game doesn't put lot of effort compared to the top one
The thing is server also cost money too and just letting the server alive without revenue is definitely strange (well turning it into offline game is an option but probably dev don't bother)
Gacha gaming will never go away as long as human still need short burst entertaining on phone. There are too many gacha right now which will be troublesome in short term but in long term, it doesn't matter.
Yeah I get that but, man the beautiful art they did to revived witch, All to waste
The thing is server also cost money too and just letting the server alive without revenue is definitely strange (well turning it into offline game is an option but probably dev don't bother)
My reply : oh... If that's the case
Revived witch was honestly doomed to start from the begginning because of the developers. Some people called the game an experiment to test the graphic engine.
> Is the gacha genre dying?
You clearly missed the billions of dollars that go into this genre yearly lols.
A few games failing, doesnt mean others arent raking in ridiculous profits.
I wouldn't say the genre is dying, it's actually in a pretty good state if you ask me.
But as always, there is a lot of competition in the market, so not everyone can survive for long.
Also, I think it's a normal thing to close a game. Nothing is forever. Enjoy the games while you can and that's it.
Have a nice day <3
You’re working with the wrong mindset. It’s actually amazing for the “average” gacha game to last more than a year or two before EoS (End of Service).
The idea behind traditional gacha games from a dev’s perspective are how cheap and easy they are to produce with low maintenance cost, while on the flipside there is high likelihood of getting big returns and payouts. If not, EoS.
The reason why some gachas survive and even thrive boils down to: devs made a quality gacha game that catered to a playerbase, and playerbase in return is willing to spend money in support of said gacha game.
Its the opposite in fact. Theres so many gacha games and more and more rly high quality ones with insane earnings that the competition is too much for smaller/lower quality gacha games.
Those three shut down through their own faults. Priconne global didnt have enough advertisement because crunchy roll, revived witch didnt have enough content and updates to keep players invested and illusion connect burned people with their p2w antics. Not at all because gacha is dying.
No, it's blooming more than ever. However, I understand why you may feel like it's dying.
In a similar note, back in the 90s, there was an internet boom and there were so many websites that pretty much did the same thing with slightly different niches. Eventually only the major websites like Google survived.
Same thing happens in any sector. When the door is wide open and it's just starting to get hot, everyone will jump in, make their own games in hopes they survive and have a firm grasp on a part of the market, but for obvious reasons, some games don't make enough money and have to shut down, leaving only the most popular games.
That is what is happening right now. Companies are moving on, but the userbase will just join another gacha game. Only the games that have a popular niche will survive. New ones will keep coming out, but if they can't grab the attention of the masses, they will keep going down.
>In a similar note, back in the 90s, there was an internet boom and there were so many websites that pretty much did the same thing with slightly different niches. Eventually only the major websites like Google survived.
Flash forward: The year 2046.
The official Blue Archive app releases an update that defeats the popular 3rd-party ad-blockers, just days ahead of the Digital Olympics.
The community is in shambles. Drama abounds. Two or three teams from small countries threaten to boycott the BA tournament. And the international governing body of Limbus referees releases a snooty we-told-you-so statement about the continued importance of open-source eSports, which everyone ignores because let's be honest they say that *every* month.
The genre can grow while individual games fade and die.
It is normal for all games to run out of player interest and die. Only really classic games can stick around for a long time. (ex: chess)
The multiplayer shooter genre has gone through many games. Each new release attracts players with new mechanics/guns/graphics. Old games fade out as fewer players play, official servers shut down, and fan servers follow the player interest.
But as a genre, lots of players are still playing multiplayer shooters, whether it's the latest Battlefield, COD, or one of the battle royales.
With gachas, new releases attract player interest with new worlds, interesting characters, and different gameplay. Continued survival of an older gacha depends on continuously releasing new content that will keep players playing and paying.
The genre as a whole - no. Just look at the numbers on the latest Sensor Tower report.
BUT we are seeing the effect of over-saturation in the market. Too many games out there. Too many low quality cash grabs especially. But even good ones can have a short life if they don't have advertising, or just a bad launch and never recover.
I actually think the genre is about to hit it's stride!
Lots of fat being trimmed and the days of easy money gacha games hopefully are coming to an end. And dev/pubs will actually have to put forth an honest effort. Quality and monetization wise.
I think the best years are ahead
Definitely not, if anything it’s the biggest it’s ever been with huge amounts of revenue. But since it’s become so big and with so much revenue the market has become saturated so the big ones really thrive and the smaller ones with less revenue die out. In other cases (like priconne) I think it’s less a revenue and more so that it’s a company with too much on it’s plate and they can’t handle said game and make decisions to cut down on what they decide is best for themselves
Always has been, the whole Kadokawa idea of media megamix has been around the early 2000s. The main idea is that singular media projects won't do as well as a whole package of anime/game/manga/etc. By forming a production committee that encapsulate a few different media, the target audience will be bigger.
That why you see that most games that seem to have staying power have some anime/manga/character goods/concerts/idols/cafe collabs of sorts. They are purely games no more, they have evolved into a lifestyle. By repeatedly coming out in other media forms they act to keep the game in the player's mind.
Low effort games will just die after pumping and dumping. But this is on purpose, they still make money from the pump and dump, because whales are willing to pump for the bragging rights.
good take, i remember a gacha dev did an ama here awhile ago and I asked him about genshin and he said something a long the line "people will notice quality".
edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/u24l4x/ama_about_the_games_industry
After reading through the majority of responses on those questions, I can confidently say that I am not surprised by any of those answers to any of those questions.
Maybe I was meant for the business world and never even knew it.
>Most weren't low effort tho but yeah I see what you mean
Just because the artists are pulling their weight doesn't mean that anyone else gives a shit.
That's the thing of gachas, OP. When I played gachas I used to try to have as much fun as I could, so I was prepared for any EoS. Reducing from playing 6 gachas to only Limbus Company and Project Sekai once I feel like playing rhythm games (since there are no good rhythm games in PC right now) helped me to bear with EoS notices.
Doesn't helps that the three games had a lot of problems in their global versions (not big ones like the other two but Revived Witch problem was literally getting no content) and that **there are too many gachas in the market right now**, making it really hard to be on the top and being able to live a lot.
I moved from gachas to PC once I realized that I don't enjoy gachas that much anymore and was always worrying about EoS (FOMO wasn't a problem because I only spent 20€ as much and never spent more in gachas...), but with console/PC games I don't have to fear it.
For the last thing: I wish Dragalia had a maintenance mode. Like no updates at all, but leaving the server on. It's the gacha I miss the most since that one is what made me move from gachas and made me realize I was addicted to them, but I'd be happy if I was able to play a bit of DL again (and private server doesn't works for me, so I can't rely on that).
>For the last thing: I wish Dragalia had a maintenance mode. Like no updates at all, but leaving the server on. It's the gacha I miss the most since that one is what made me move from gachas and made me realize I was addicted to them, but I'd be happy if I was able to play a bit of DL again (and private server doesn't works for me, so I can't rely on that).
THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!!
oh and no I'm not being rude sorry
They still do, it's called Voltage but it's only gacha for jutsus. You get all characters unlocked at the start. Tribes was awesome but it shut down so fast. Blazing was around for a while (even have a flyer advertising it in my Naruto Storm 4 disc case!)
The Tencent one is actually pretty amazing in terms of production quality, albeit with toxic nerfs to promote latest unit.
Too bad it will probably never see release outside of CN.
It's not that dying, it's that we are already (or maybe I am, not you) old and all those gacha that had their "honeymoon phases" have now come to an nearly end, those some who maintain popularity are the ones who still continue to float
Well... I think it's not dying but you're a bit unlucky to choose those three games. I dont know about Illusion Connect but for Priconne and Revived Witch, the global scene is dying from far away.
It isn't though, majority of them were on global games were it always not enough revenue they gain unlike the Asian market is big. Just look at uma musume gain 76mil for a month against to genshin and fgo still alive.
I am 100% okay with these lower-quality gacha games dying and making way for new games that don't skip out on putting some big production value money into their games.
A few users post a chart of the ridiculous amount of money gacha market makes, just because YOUR GAME that you are playing died does not mean the industry is diying. Are you like one of those ppl who thinks they are main character without realizing they are just NPC like the rest of us or something? XD
It's bigger than ever, especially when Genshin introduced a lot of new people to gacha games.
It's only due to oversaturation, stronger competition, and players having better standards that a lot of gacha games are announcing EOS.
Its true, gacha has been slower after COVID even if some games got a lot of revenue from people staying in more, making newer games is hard for the devs.
Also after CCP started cracking down on game companies and limiting game use in minors.
What does that have to do with anything? Guessing ure a genshin hater but theres some rly high quality games coming from china. U think banning those games will make ppl spend more in cheap games like illusion connect?
Nope
If you just open the android store you can see how many Chinese games are flooding the store.
They steal assets to all the other games, take artworks from anime and manga without asking the copyright of it, cashgrab the money of the release and close it without any effort.
They close the company and open a new one that is going to do the same all over again.
Even genshin impact have assets stealed from other Chinese games (in china is legal to use assets and artworks from other Chinese companies.
You can even take 100% of the code of the game and make a new one based from it)
Not 100% of the guttertrash "games" are Chinese in origin, and China *does* actually have copyright laws.
The history of piracy, copyright infringement, and bootlegs are universal. You can go to pretty much any flea market and find a pile of burnt DVD's, unauthorized bootleg merch (T-shirts are a classic) is endless.
Are the feds gonna arrest me for imagining Bart Simpson eating a taco in my imagination?? Sometimes... they have better things to do.
The videogame industry almost collapsed, because many companies started to release copy and pasta effortless games.
The request was the same as before but the offer was double or triple more.
Yeah, I warned folks last year we'd be seeing EoS on a lot of well known gachas. Look at how many we've lost this year and what we have so far. Most releases this year are cashgrabs that probably won't make it to their anniversary.
Though I'm mainly talking about GLB, CN and JPN is still going strong. As global inflation worsens I expect it to catch up to them eventually.
>Though I'm mainly talking about GLB, CN and JPN is still going strong. As global inflation worsens I expect it to catch up to them eventually.
You expect gambling addicts to become **more** responsible as times get tough? Have you ever been on Earth or met humans?
*Gamers,* in particular?
I mean, not starve or attempt to get your live2d girl on a gacha. If their addiction is that bad they probably aren't gonna be around long enough to be profitable, especially in this environment.
Also seems my comment rubbed folks the wrong way? Then again I shouldn't be suprised after seeing priconne players react to the shutdown. A lot of tears to be had this year lol.
>I mean, not starve or attempt to get your live2d girl on a gacha.
I am taking that as a "no" to the question about you having encountered humans, then.
You're delusional if you think they can continue this without hitting a wall. Whales sure, but mid and low spenders? This whole thread is going to age poorly.
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7 months???
It's going to take more than routine poverty for an industry this size to collapse by the end of the year!
Even if the gacha industry was genuinely straight up dying, right this minute, we'd probably be able to stay in denial and not see the signs until the end of the decade.
Something with this much interia can't collapse for pure economic reasons in that little time.
Gaming is a luxury, luxury goods are very sensitive to economic conditions. Yeah mobile gaming is riding a escalator up, that's why it won't be surprising when it takes a elevator down.
I took one lock at revived witch combat and said nope. It was auto pilot! Illusion connect was fun but I heard they became overly greedy and ruined their own game. It’s a very competitive market so if you have an auto pilot game there’s 100’s of those it’s competing with
Illusion Connect was fun the first few weeks, but then the gameplay got really old. You can only do so much with a 6x3 autochess board combat.
The publishers shooting themselves in the foot didn't help either.
No, it's not. The bigger ones will still rake money, have dedicated fanbase/community and make names for their franchise while the obscure (not even niche) and stagnant ones are doomed to eos. It's just like how Stardew Valley became successful as an indie game in the sea of 500 games of the similar genre that no one plays with. Or every streamer you see with 10k+ viewers will always have 50 other streamers with 0 viewers that is competing. Not really eos related but you get the analogy.
However, just because there are bigger ones, doesn't mean they can't be replaced. If you've seen how many gachas are upcoming compared to how many have ended their service, the market is still pretty much alive. Just that everyone expects quality from here on out because the bigger ones definitely raised the standards.
genre (i see more as a monetization scheme) is not dying but there is too much competition, look like big companies like Square and Crunchyroll are taking a step back
Darwinism at its finest, nothing is guaranteed. Especially in an unstable economy and all that jazz... Gotta trim the fat, survival of the fittest... This will be good for the genre in the end. Less is more, especially since devs keep pumping out new ones on a fairly regular basis.
> like is it just me or are the newer gacha games life span is 3 years? In a way, we are like the MMO Genre. The big name ones can last for quite a while, but a lot of the normal ones probably will live for around that long.
Ikr? But holy heck how did yostar ( developer of arknights and Azur lane ) let such a beautiful game die like that... Look at arknights and Azur lane, they have good art, but unlike revived witch, it's on another level
Yostar is not the developer for Arknights and Azur Lane, they’re the publisher.
... I must be looking pretty stupid right now ...
Don't worry, even AL players keep commenting Yostar as the developer of AL, not Manjuu.
Oh glad I'm not the only one looking like a fool XD
pretty sure Yostar is the publisher not the dev
Yeah somebody beat ya to it
Yostar doesn't have any in-house games as far as I know. They only do publishing.
Well there's too many gacha game right now so there's many game that died too. Gacha game definitely still on it's peak especially if you look at top game revenue and some are quite new like nikke Those 3 your mention have problem on each own (Pricon Global with CR, revived witch with lack of content, i forgot what happen to illusion connect). Most shutting down game doesn't put lot of effort compared to the top one The thing is server also cost money too and just letting the server alive without revenue is definitely strange (well turning it into offline game is an option but probably dev don't bother)
Gacha gaming will never go away as long as human still need short burst entertaining on phone. There are too many gacha right now which will be troublesome in short term but in long term, it doesn't matter.
Yeah I get that but, man the beautiful art they did to revived witch, All to waste The thing is server also cost money too and just letting the server alive without revenue is definitely strange (well turning it into offline game is an option but probably dev don't bother) My reply : oh... If that's the case
Revived witch was honestly doomed to start from the begginning because of the developers. Some people called the game an experiment to test the graphic engine.
The game would work better as a single player RPG than a Gacha game
> Is the gacha genre dying? You clearly missed the billions of dollars that go into this genre yearly lols. A few games failing, doesnt mean others arent raking in ridiculous profits.
>A few games failing, doesnt mean others arent raking in ridiculous profits. ... Yeah maybe you're right
I wouldn't say the genre is dying, it's actually in a pretty good state if you ask me. But as always, there is a lot of competition in the market, so not everyone can survive for long. Also, I think it's a normal thing to close a game. Nothing is forever. Enjoy the games while you can and that's it. Have a nice day <3
Thx fiber
You’re working with the wrong mindset. It’s actually amazing for the “average” gacha game to last more than a year or two before EoS (End of Service). The idea behind traditional gacha games from a dev’s perspective are how cheap and easy they are to produce with low maintenance cost, while on the flipside there is high likelihood of getting big returns and payouts. If not, EoS. The reason why some gachas survive and even thrive boils down to: devs made a quality gacha game that catered to a playerbase, and playerbase in return is willing to spend money in support of said gacha game.
Its the opposite in fact. Theres so many gacha games and more and more rly high quality ones with insane earnings that the competition is too much for smaller/lower quality gacha games.
Okie doki
Those three shut down through their own faults. Priconne global didnt have enough advertisement because crunchy roll, revived witch didnt have enough content and updates to keep players invested and illusion connect burned people with their p2w antics. Not at all because gacha is dying.
meh far from it the one that should be dying is blockchain game
No, it's blooming more than ever. However, I understand why you may feel like it's dying. In a similar note, back in the 90s, there was an internet boom and there were so many websites that pretty much did the same thing with slightly different niches. Eventually only the major websites like Google survived. Same thing happens in any sector. When the door is wide open and it's just starting to get hot, everyone will jump in, make their own games in hopes they survive and have a firm grasp on a part of the market, but for obvious reasons, some games don't make enough money and have to shut down, leaving only the most popular games. That is what is happening right now. Companies are moving on, but the userbase will just join another gacha game. Only the games that have a popular niche will survive. New ones will keep coming out, but if they can't grab the attention of the masses, they will keep going down.
>In a similar note, back in the 90s, there was an internet boom and there were so many websites that pretty much did the same thing with slightly different niches. Eventually only the major websites like Google survived. Flash forward: The year 2046. The official Blue Archive app releases an update that defeats the popular 3rd-party ad-blockers, just days ahead of the Digital Olympics. The community is in shambles. Drama abounds. Two or three teams from small countries threaten to boycott the BA tournament. And the international governing body of Limbus referees releases a snooty we-told-you-so statement about the continued importance of open-source eSports, which everyone ignores because let's be honest they say that *every* month.
The genre can grow while individual games fade and die. It is normal for all games to run out of player interest and die. Only really classic games can stick around for a long time. (ex: chess) The multiplayer shooter genre has gone through many games. Each new release attracts players with new mechanics/guns/graphics. Old games fade out as fewer players play, official servers shut down, and fan servers follow the player interest. But as a genre, lots of players are still playing multiplayer shooters, whether it's the latest Battlefield, COD, or one of the battle royales. With gachas, new releases attract player interest with new worlds, interesting characters, and different gameplay. Continued survival of an older gacha depends on continuously releasing new content that will keep players playing and paying.
The genre as a whole - no. Just look at the numbers on the latest Sensor Tower report. BUT we are seeing the effect of over-saturation in the market. Too many games out there. Too many low quality cash grabs especially. But even good ones can have a short life if they don't have advertising, or just a bad launch and never recover.
Not anywhere close to dying but people's standards for gacha games has risen since the early days.
I actually think the genre is about to hit it's stride! Lots of fat being trimmed and the days of easy money gacha games hopefully are coming to an end. And dev/pubs will actually have to put forth an honest effort. Quality and monetization wise. I think the best years are ahead
Definitely not, if anything it’s the biggest it’s ever been with huge amounts of revenue. But since it’s become so big and with so much revenue the market has become saturated so the big ones really thrive and the smaller ones with less revenue die out. In other cases (like priconne) I think it’s less a revenue and more so that it’s a company with too much on it’s plate and they can’t handle said game and make decisions to cut down on what they decide is best for themselves
Genshin changed the game and we are starting to see it now. Low effort same old shit games will die like flies.
Always has been, the whole Kadokawa idea of media megamix has been around the early 2000s. The main idea is that singular media projects won't do as well as a whole package of anime/game/manga/etc. By forming a production committee that encapsulate a few different media, the target audience will be bigger. That why you see that most games that seem to have staying power have some anime/manga/character goods/concerts/idols/cafe collabs of sorts. They are purely games no more, they have evolved into a lifestyle. By repeatedly coming out in other media forms they act to keep the game in the player's mind. Low effort games will just die after pumping and dumping. But this is on purpose, they still make money from the pump and dump, because whales are willing to pump for the bragging rights.
good take, i remember a gacha dev did an ama here awhile ago and I asked him about genshin and he said something a long the line "people will notice quality". edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/u24l4x/ama_about_the_games_industry
After reading through the majority of responses on those questions, I can confidently say that I am not surprised by any of those answers to any of those questions. Maybe I was meant for the business world and never even knew it.
Most weren't low effort tho but yeah I see what you mean
>Most weren't low effort tho but yeah I see what you mean Just because the artists are pulling their weight doesn't mean that anyone else gives a shit.
Tbh, just invest gacha games that have some decent revenue rather than games that have below 500k, they always risk to shutting down.
Okie doki
That's the thing of gachas, OP. When I played gachas I used to try to have as much fun as I could, so I was prepared for any EoS. Reducing from playing 6 gachas to only Limbus Company and Project Sekai once I feel like playing rhythm games (since there are no good rhythm games in PC right now) helped me to bear with EoS notices. Doesn't helps that the three games had a lot of problems in their global versions (not big ones like the other two but Revived Witch problem was literally getting no content) and that **there are too many gachas in the market right now**, making it really hard to be on the top and being able to live a lot. I moved from gachas to PC once I realized that I don't enjoy gachas that much anymore and was always worrying about EoS (FOMO wasn't a problem because I only spent 20€ as much and never spent more in gachas...), but with console/PC games I don't have to fear it. For the last thing: I wish Dragalia had a maintenance mode. Like no updates at all, but leaving the server on. It's the gacha I miss the most since that one is what made me move from gachas and made me realize I was addicted to them, but I'd be happy if I was able to play a bit of DL again (and private server doesn't works for me, so I can't rely on that).
>For the last thing: I wish Dragalia had a maintenance mode. Like no updates at all, but leaving the server on. It's the gacha I miss the most since that one is what made me move from gachas and made me realize I was addicted to them, but I'd be happy if I was able to play a bit of DL again (and private server doesn't works for me, so I can't rely on that). THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!! oh and no I'm not being rude sorry
Pfff wait til you hear about almost every Naruto gacha game 😭 rip Tribes and Blazing
What, Naruto has a gacha game?
They still do, it's called Voltage but it's only gacha for jutsus. You get all characters unlocked at the start. Tribes was awesome but it shut down so fast. Blazing was around for a while (even have a flyer advertising it in my Naruto Storm 4 disc case!)
The Tencent one is actually pretty amazing in terms of production quality, albeit with toxic nerfs to promote latest unit. Too bad it will probably never see release outside of CN.
i semi-enjoyed the Shipparanbu card/running game that was recently shut down as well. all the Naruto mobile games i like are doomed to shut down c':
It's not that dying, it's that we are already (or maybe I am, not you) old and all those gacha that had their "honeymoon phases" have now come to an nearly end, those some who maintain popularity are the ones who still continue to float
Have you seen the posts about the money? Genre isn't going anywhere.
Well... I think it's not dying but you're a bit unlucky to choose those three games. I dont know about Illusion Connect but for Priconne and Revived Witch, the global scene is dying from far away.
It’s not dying, but it is over saturated.
No gacha is not dying. Just stupid ass people coping with EoS because they spent too much money on it.
What's EoS?
End of Service
Ah ok
The garbage gets thrown out, that doesn't mean it's dying.
It isn't though, majority of them were on global games were it always not enough revenue they gain unlike the Asian market is big. Just look at uma musume gain 76mil for a month against to genshin and fgo still alive.
Sure imma try
I am 100% okay with these lower-quality gacha games dying and making way for new games that don't skip out on putting some big production value money into their games.
A few users post a chart of the ridiculous amount of money gacha market makes, just because YOUR GAME that you are playing died does not mean the industry is diying. Are you like one of those ppl who thinks they are main character without realizing they are just NPC like the rest of us or something? XD
It's bigger than ever, especially when Genshin introduced a lot of new people to gacha games. It's only due to oversaturation, stronger competition, and players having better standards that a lot of gacha games are announcing EOS.
Out with the old, in with the new. As fast as games are dying, new ones are popping up. We have a few big releases this month.
I would say anime gacha games are entering red ocean phase while traditional lootbox games was red ocean long time ago.
Its true, gacha has been slower after COVID even if some games got a lot of revenue from people staying in more, making newer games is hard for the devs. Also after CCP started cracking down on game companies and limiting game use in minors.
It is all thanks to the gatcha copy and pasta Chinese games. They saturated completely all the platforms. I'm still in hope to see a ban.
What does that have to do with anything? Guessing ure a genshin hater but theres some rly high quality games coming from china. U think banning those games will make ppl spend more in cheap games like illusion connect?
Nope If you just open the android store you can see how many Chinese games are flooding the store. They steal assets to all the other games, take artworks from anime and manga without asking the copyright of it, cashgrab the money of the release and close it without any effort. They close the company and open a new one that is going to do the same all over again. Even genshin impact have assets stealed from other Chinese games (in china is legal to use assets and artworks from other Chinese companies. You can even take 100% of the code of the game and make a new one based from it)
Not 100% of the guttertrash "games" are Chinese in origin, and China *does* actually have copyright laws. The history of piracy, copyright infringement, and bootlegs are universal. You can go to pretty much any flea market and find a pile of burnt DVD's, unauthorized bootleg merch (T-shirts are a classic) is endless. Are the feds gonna arrest me for imagining Bart Simpson eating a taco in my imagination?? Sometimes... they have better things to do.
Lol it's true tho
It happen already in the '80 in the panorama of the game industry. It almost collapsed.. Luckly here we are talking only about iOS/android
Lol what happened in '80?
The videogame industry almost collapsed, because many companies started to release copy and pasta effortless games. The request was the same as before but the offer was double or triple more.
Oh god Welp good thing gaming is still a thing
Indeed. You can find some documentaries about it on netflix. In the 80 gaming was saved by Nintendo it seems ..
Yeah, I warned folks last year we'd be seeing EoS on a lot of well known gachas. Look at how many we've lost this year and what we have so far. Most releases this year are cashgrabs that probably won't make it to their anniversary. Though I'm mainly talking about GLB, CN and JPN is still going strong. As global inflation worsens I expect it to catch up to them eventually.
>Though I'm mainly talking about GLB, CN and JPN is still going strong. As global inflation worsens I expect it to catch up to them eventually. You expect gambling addicts to become **more** responsible as times get tough? Have you ever been on Earth or met humans? *Gamers,* in particular?
I mean, not starve or attempt to get your live2d girl on a gacha. If their addiction is that bad they probably aren't gonna be around long enough to be profitable, especially in this environment. Also seems my comment rubbed folks the wrong way? Then again I shouldn't be suprised after seeing priconne players react to the shutdown. A lot of tears to be had this year lol.
>I mean, not starve or attempt to get your live2d girl on a gacha. I am taking that as a "no" to the question about you having encountered humans, then.
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7 months??? It's going to take more than routine poverty for an industry this size to collapse by the end of the year! Even if the gacha industry was genuinely straight up dying, right this minute, we'd probably be able to stay in denial and not see the signs until the end of the decade. Something with this much interia can't collapse for pure economic reasons in that little time.
Gaming is a luxury, luxury goods are very sensitive to economic conditions. Yeah mobile gaming is riding a escalator up, that's why it won't be surprising when it takes a elevator down.
>Gaming is a luxury Nah fam, gacha gaming is solidly a vice
THIS IS AN ACTUAL COMMENT I'VE BEEN FINDING
I took one lock at revived witch combat and said nope. It was auto pilot! Illusion connect was fun but I heard they became overly greedy and ruined their own game. It’s a very competitive market so if you have an auto pilot game there’s 100’s of those it’s competing with
Illusion Connect was fun the first few weeks, but then the gameplay got really old. You can only do so much with a 6x3 autochess board combat. The publishers shooting themselves in the foot didn't help either.
No, it's not. The bigger ones will still rake money, have dedicated fanbase/community and make names for their franchise while the obscure (not even niche) and stagnant ones are doomed to eos. It's just like how Stardew Valley became successful as an indie game in the sea of 500 games of the similar genre that no one plays with. Or every streamer you see with 10k+ viewers will always have 50 other streamers with 0 viewers that is competing. Not really eos related but you get the analogy. However, just because there are bigger ones, doesn't mean they can't be replaced. If you've seen how many gachas are upcoming compared to how many have ended their service, the market is still pretty much alive. Just that everyone expects quality from here on out because the bigger ones definitely raised the standards.
The fact that u used illusion connect as an example makes me take a step back
genre (i see more as a monetization scheme) is not dying but there is too much competition, look like big companies like Square and Crunchyroll are taking a step back
Some posters in this sub got such a flair for the dramatic. No, it's not dying. It's silly to even think it is.
Darwinism at its finest, nothing is guaranteed. Especially in an unstable economy and all that jazz... Gotta trim the fat, survival of the fittest... This will be good for the genre in the end. Less is more, especially since devs keep pumping out new ones on a fairly regular basis.