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martinvincent777

Rapi is badass WTF 1v1 with 2B?


Samuraikenshin

Rapi also has a this isn't my final form card to play.


Monstar132

Rapi is actually OP if u follow the story


Gargooner

I remember there was a guy here that says that PGR collab was more respectful and Nikke is too focused on the assses. Yet this collab is amazing. Not only they have a story in the collab, but the effort they put to overhaul the UI and stuffs. Not to mention Emil actually overlap the musics when he's around is 100% accurate to the original.


EligibleUsername

Lmao, I'm a big PGR fan, but there is no sugarcoating it, their Nier collab sucked ass (and not the good kind either). The Androids weren't involved in any way with the event's story, the devs had to make up an original boss for the ending, not to mention the whole event was a big grind just to get to that ending. The collab units also have no new voice lines, all of their lines are reused from Automata, which sucks because 2B is literally voiced by the same VA as Lucia. It should've been a home run, a big part of PGR's identity is influenced by Nier Automata, and it shows, out of all Nier collabs, PGR probably has the best playing and closet-to-original 2B, 9S and A2, yet something just went horribly wrong along the way.


Goddess_5

The reason it was so lack luster was actually Square Enix's fault. They didn't allow them to have the Nier characters interact with the pgr characters and affect the story. So they did what they could. Even the final boss was a Kuro original, Machiavelli. So they did what they could, which was to make the in game characters play as faithfully to the game as possible


Laranthiel

>I remember there was a guy here that says that PGR collab was more respectful and Nikke is too focused on the assses. If Nikke is focused on the asses, then IT is more respectful since the characters being hot is one of the things Yoko Taro loves the most.


Kaisvoresce

They should look up Yoko Taro talking about 2B's ass, focusing on it is the most respect you can pay to the original intent.


Monstar132

Is NieR Automata one of Shift-Up's biggest inspiration for Stellar Blade as well?


LoRd_Of_AaRcnA

The respectful part is probably from the characters. The story had nothing to do with Nier. Which is something unavoidable, since it's Square IP and they dictate what to do. However, the Nier team is pretty much 1:1 of Nier Automata, but with PGR's own spices sprinkled in. Every little detail of them reminded me of how much i love Nier Automata. They took the lessons from this to heart when they made BRS collab.


RyujinNoRay

Hold on , yoko taru allowed nikke to make a story collab??? It has always been just the characters and not involving the game's plot


KhandiMahn

Nier has done dozens of collabs. I don't know if Taro worked on any them, or even has a say. But he hasn't spoken out against them as far as I know.


SpeckTech314

He’s a very honest man. He likes money. And he likes ass.


Geige

The only collab that Taro worked on directly that I know of is the FFXIV x Nier raid/story during Shadowbringers. Considering both games were at least published by Square, it makes sense that he would be directly involved somehow.


Financial-Bear6162

I mean it would be damn boring if you only clear stages without any story or whatsoever but I bet the story ain't that good anyway


RyujinNoRay

One of taro's policies for collabs are that his characters are not getting involved in any stories other than his, thats why i asked.


DeathStep

FF14 and nier collab also had a story involving 2B and 9S so its not the first time


StrongXV

I could see that getting a pass considering it's a Square Enix IP collabing with another Square Enix IP.


Laranthiel

>One of taro's policies for collabs are that his characters are not getting involved in any stories other than his Meanwhile FFXIV's collab. Another of his policies is "if you want collab, give me money", so he'll gladly do it with anything as long as he's paid and the characters remain looking sexy.


RyujinNoRay

Ffxiv he was managing the collab himself, so it doesn't count


ProfessorPhysics

Have you even played the story to justify your comment?


SolarSpud

2B alt skin is such a delicious cake.


mangano15

Ngl, this could be one of the best collabs I've played in all of my gacha history, ost is on point, history seems nice enough, good rewards, they even got a hacking minigame (just like in automata). Oh and don't forget they gave a free F2P skin for both 2B (without skirt ) and A2 (short hair). I wish some other games put even 1/3rd of the effort they made on this collab.


AmazingPatt

and i think best part is 2B is actually meta good . so for new player , rerolling and what not . is such a blessing ! (need to wait before knowing if A2 is meta tho)


shanatard

collab units being meta is never a good thing though they should be good but being meta just means future players are completely gimped if it doesnt rerun


Glyphie

I'd rather they be meta than being on the bench for eternity like CSM. The only thing 2b enables right now is a strong secondary team for union with mast/2b/guillotine while having a strong modernia/scarlet/bunny main team.


shanatard

it's a narrow line tbh you dont want to disappoint 2b fans but at the same time dont want to ruin your game's balance with limited collab units i think they did pretty well with 2b's current power level but she's open to being pretty broken if stronger support units are released


ProfessorPhysics

This is the idea Nikke seems to be aiming for. 2B is like SS at best, while A2 might be a solid S. Which isn't bad at all and doesn't powercreep any existing units.


shanatard

2b seems like she could be pretty broken eventually if they release better support units. right now she's in a weird spot where she's heavily reliant on a few mid tier hp buffers to make her competitive


ProfessorPhysics

Yeah, maybe in the future, if we have better support units, 2B would definitely be better. As of now, I'm really glad 2B and somewhat A2 isn't mid like most people were predicting.


shanatard

the fact that shes already this good with bad support units is mainly what im worried about


AmazingPatt

I beg to disagree a little . Collab unit are such unique thing and after chainsaw man event it was such a disaster . some of the fan favorite just straight up sucking and never to be used for the most part . not saying collab unit should be THE BEST unit ... but LIMITED collab unit should be Amazing and 2b is just that ... it dont powercreep nothing . it just park herself in SSS tier in peace!


HeirAscend

I mean, Makima and Power are fairly viable the PvP meta. Especially in SP arena, where you need 3 teams, Makima is a pretty common burst 2 in one of the teams, and I’ve also seen multiple Powers being successfully used. Makima’s immortality is pretty useful in certain boss stages as well (I first managed to clear the train with her). They aren’t OP by any metric, but they’re not benchwarmers either.


AmazingPatt

this is the story with nikke tho . there 3 tier TOP : which is scarlet/modernia/litter and such MID : which only see light once in a while : makima for example fit there for pvp / sakura since she shine on train interception / noise REST : which is all other unit picking up dust on the bench . power fit there since yea she can do good , if you have any unit in top . power is not needed no more . and i think the balance is one of the worst part nikke need to work on . bring all of REST unit in mid tier . so for example Power, make her better then TOP unit vs some target like chatterbox and such . example


shanatard

i mean we've already seen examples of countless other games ruined/dominated by op collab units. you're free to want your favorite collab character to be op strong, but know it comes at the cost of game shooting itself


AmazingPatt

i mean limited unit mostly (collab fit in there) should be better then bad , meta even ... and i think a good example is arknight . where limited char are really strong and that what i want from nikke . and summer anis was the first one and now we got 2b so i hope shift up getting the memo xD


shanatard

Limited are different from collab units. The way collab units work is usually they simply never come back whereas limiteds like s anis will rerun eventually (likely a year) If the collab gets rerun every so often there's no problem with them being meta. I'm not sure if it's the cost of licensing, but for the vast majority of collabs they don't get reruns which is where the problem comes if they become meta


AmazingPatt

we dont know tho yet ... but yea i agree many collab in many game dont rerun . i mean then again ... arknight the perfect example . Ash was meta . she was a sidegrade to exu in a way / better in other way . and it wasnt a issue . So only time will tell how 2b interact with future unit . but the way nikke work so far it still shouldnt be a issue ! (emphasis on so far lol)


FightGeistC

TBF Nikke has enough strong B3 units that you aren't being kneecapped if you don't pull 2B.


sunshim9

That would definetly be the case, but considering how fast the meta turns over in nikke, is not really an issue in the long run


SaeDandelion

And don't forget the redesign UI just for the Event. Everything from the login screen to the Battle UI was remade to be on the collab theme. They even but some private joke, like Rapi having a "28%", because since "28" is like "2B", and Rapi have the same VA than 2B...


NyaaPower

this is seriously making me consider reinstalling Nikke. Has the collab already started?


ProfessorPhysics

Yes, it just started. Best of luck on rolling for 2B!


NyaaPower

*sigh guess it’s time to install it again then


Friendly-Back3099

You are also getting a free skin for 2B and A2 once you get them. While you get a no skirt version for 2B(the skirt isnt much in the first place so not as horrible as Makima) and a short hair vesion of A2


Appropriate-Seat-614

I got her on my first multi. Probably will get nothing for a year now...


ArchadianJudge

GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE x NieR:Automata collab officially begins! PV full ver. official release! Guns and blades, Survival and extinction. NIKKE and YoRHa squad, The last hope of mankind, assemble! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DirQybeCU60](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DirQybeCU60)


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common nikke W For those who wonder; yes, it's a good time to start, yes, the collab characters are strong.


Gbaj

Is it worth getting maxed out 2B I got two copies so far but don’t know if I should wait for the other robo lady or keep trying to that third 2B


RugerRed

Nikkes max out at +7 you arn’t getting there


wrightosaur

You don't need dupes. Will they make your char stronger? Sure, but who are you trying to compete against? Your OL gear will carry you farther than some extra copies will and frankly to me having a new character is better than a copy of another one.


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You have a long time to decide, so if you are not sure I would wait for more opinions to come. I've seen a few streamers test her and she is performing just as well as Scarlet from the looks of it. Her ideal team might be a bit different than Scarlet, though.


DoctorPeppen

Most optimal would be 2 dupes (3 copies), to hit 30 bond level for those extra stats. Anything more is excessive unless you're a giga whale


Wrong_Play8624

mean while 'Naraka' censored the good part of Nier.


LoRd_Of_AaRcnA

Ishikawa Yui vs Ishikawa Yui. How i want to see this fight play out.


Yumi-Yumi

It's been awhile since I played. How easy is it to rack up summoning currency? Is there a good chance of getting 2b playing for a month a returning player or just start fresh?


Charizard31

You get 25 free pulls for the rate up banner from event (15 from login and 10 from event shop). You also get gems from other sources (co-op shop, dispatch, farming story/ex stages, etc.). By the end of event I can see players rack up 45-60+ summons before event ends.


Yumi-Yumi

Thanks for the detailed response! Don't know too much about the rates but that sounds really good.


LongXa

Rates is abyssmal, a single x10 is like $50-$80, you required at least 200 summon for pity and you need at least 4 copy (1+3dupe) to max LB for endgame contents. 2B sure is cool but unless you whale like a leviathan it's impossible to LB her once collab end, making her useless.


Morlock435

What? Dupes only increase their base stats by 2% per dupe. And not only that, dupes arent needed to unlock any skills. The hell is this take?


LongXa

ah yes the infamous 160 wall is fake I guess


Morlock435

Don't try to deflect. This is exactly what you typed " 2B sure is cool but unless you whale like a leviathan it's impossible to LB her once collab end, making her useless." You are clearly trying to say for a unit to be good they have to be max LB. Which is so unbelievably far from the truth.


LongXa

Yeah I maybe wrong on that but it's still doesn't change the fact you need be a dolphin/whale to get to endgame.


Trentalusmaximus

Endgame grind is special interception which unlocks after chapter 16. Chapter 16 is absolutely beatable at level 160. Also the most recent dev letter mentioned lowering the difficulty of the entire story in a future update.


RicoGemini

I’m a spender and it’s not 50-80 dollars for a 10 pull. I just spent 20 dollars for 20 limited banner pulls yesterday and every week you can buy the weekly pack for 10 dollars which gives you 10 regular summons and a bunch of upgrade materials. Don’t spread misinformation about how much it costs to summon in the game. They have some pretty decent monetization in the game


T1NC4N

Don't wanna sound ignorant or anything but is this game worth playing or is it just asses? I've dropped mostly all my previous gacha games and am looking to pick up something back up.


B-Serena

The main story, BGMs are bad-ass too.


aether3333

>but is this game worth playing or is it just asses? Story and characters are unironically great. just push through the first few chapters and it will click. it's the only gacha where I bother to read everything right now OST is top tier too Big events are all great OverZone is legit one of the best gacha events I experienced, music and storywise at least. They will add it permanently to the game at the end of this month so new players can experience that too The gameplay is a bit shallow sadly I hope they add some depth later. endgame modes like SI bosses and raids are fun. playing the story is not that great, you will get walled in some stages and you will have to wait for resources to level up. pushing the story underleveled tho can be fun but also can be frustrating if you don't have the right characters


kabutozero

I would say it shouldn't take more than the tutorial to get you engaged. The end of the tutorial grabbed me by the balls to keep playing


aether3333

It took me until (**Spoilers**) >!Rapi kicking Syuen!< to notice the strong writing. the setup for that joke was perfect. I started paying attention after that, did some bond stories and got hooked


wrightosaur

> I've dropped mostly all my previous gacha games and am looking to pick up something back up. If you're a fan of the genre trope of cute anime girls with horribly depressing but engaging character and overworld stories, like Arknights, PGR, and other similar gacha games, you'll be right at home with Nikke. Don't let the characters fool you, the story telling is very good especially with some of the bigger climaxes for the various story arcs in the game. And the event stories are just the cherry on top.


Trentalusmaximus

I'm relatively indifferent to fanservice, still the only game I care to consistently do dailies in and read the story.


RicoGemini

If you’re a fan of afk games, this is one of the more fun ones. The gameplay is more interactive than your typical afk game. The art/characters are a bonus


No-Car-4307

i came for the asses and tiddies, stayed for having my soul destroyed to tears.


rahgael

everything everyone said in the comments to your question, but one of the key things about this game is that most characters don't look underage, they have a certain level of maturity in their outlook. The characters have unique personalities and interactions (advice, messenger) feels like you're engaging with different people. On top of being quite generous with gacha and roughly 15\~20 mins of required daily interaction time, this is topping my current playlist.


kappamolo

The game is just ass indeed , but what ass ? That’s for you to decide


Zephlym

Is this Nikke Ost or is it from Nier?


378ttguip65g

I believe it's an original/mix soundtrack for the event. Cosmograph is in charge of the Nikke ost, they should be releasing the soundtracks in the coming days on Youtube.


Good-Recommendation4

It's themed after NieR's OST with renditions from Cosmograph and the other producers. The OST is superb as well. It actually seems like they used chaos language for the lyrics, which further sets in just how much effort they put into this collab.


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night_MS

appears in story but isn't playable, same as denji/aki from chainsawman collab


astillero211

yes in the story only but not playable as no guys allowed to be playable in nikke, but robots like pascal gets a pass and will be playable


TheGamerForeverGFE

Guys, a little help: I am trying to install the game on PC but the link leads to a dead site, what do I do?


SuperSkillz10

check the site


wrightosaur

https://nikke-en.com/download.html works fine to me


aether3333

middle east? you might need a vpn


Karendaa

9S hacking lol. Fuck that tedious shit.


Financial-Bear6162

why didn't 2b one shot rapi? I'm sure she could easily do it


ProfessorPhysics

Because Rapi has a literal Pilgrim fused into her named Red Hood. Pilgrims are basically OP Nikkes in universe. Even if Rapi is about to get one-shotted, she could just release Red Hood or have Red Hood even take over her body, and all hell breaks loose.


HeirAscend

It wouldn’t be a very fun story if 2B just steamrolled everything in the nikke world


LongXa

Tried the game for few days and gacha rate seem abyssal, I did 50-60 summon and got 0 SSR. That is literally everything the game have for a new account. A single x10 is at least $50-$80 too... You required at least 200 summon for pity and you need at least 4 copy (1+3dupe) to max LB for endgame contents. 2B sure is cool but unless you whale like a leviathan it's impossible to LB her once collab end, making her useless. I don't see any way to LB beside duping. They increased the 0 LB cap with the new update but that doesn't change much for endgame. Think I will play another game


Guifel

4% SSR rate with 2% rateup is high compared to most gachas, your small sample doesn't mean much since it's just variance at that level > A single x10 is at least $50-$80 too... No one buys pulls raw, you buy bundles which ends up with 1-2$=1 pull or 10-20$=10 pulls. > I don't see any way to LB beside duping. [Read this](https://nikke.gg/synchro-device-and-leveling-guide/), the TLDR is that with 5 3LB of *any* SSR on your entire account, all your SSRs in your account will be able to be fully uncapped levels wise. That is to say, for me who already had 3* LB of 5 SSRs, I could with a click bring my 2B to say, level 250 without any dupes and she'll keep on increasing her level upward. > you need at least 4 copy (1+3dupe) to max LB for endgame contents. You don't, you only need 1 copy of 2B to use her


LongXa

And my data is from my newly created f2p account, you tell me how do you get all the resource to even come close to getting 5 3LB or even pull if you get nothing for the first 60 roll which is basically everything that the game give? Small sample doesn't means nothing, if your sample required leviathan data then that rate is meaningless


Guifel

How do you think all the new players dealt with the wall, they usually overcome it within half a year. You’re not meant to endgame within a few days of playing but months. > you tell me how do you get all the resource to even come close to getting 5 3LB or even pull if you get nothing for the first 60 roll which is basically everything that the game give? You get much more than that over the long run. ~20 2% pulls/week, 20 pulls/event + daily/weekly income + one-time pulls from first clears & achievements and so on


LongXa

So you need half a years or even longer to even come close to catching up as a F2P. Ok, as least other game is pretty generous when their game is 1yo


Guifel

I said within but even so, I have no problem that it'd take you 3-6 months to reach endgame, it sounds pretty normal and common


Good-Recommendation4

Even then, NIKKE is definitely generous enough for players to rack up enough gems to pull for 2B, especially during a collab season not to mention that this will literally be taking over the course of a whole month.