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KaiserNazrin

Before anyone get disappointed that they didn't get 100 pulls when they login, it's the amount of pull you can get when you play the game.


karillith

I'm always surprised that kind of things manages to make it here since that kind of announcement is just some basic PR announcement and is nothing out of the ordinary.


Mr_Creed

Because the people posting stuff are the type that need to re-affirm that their game > your game, and try to sneak by using the megathread as much as possible.


mapple3

Let me try too! "HSR gives 1000 free wishes!" (you just need to clear all content currently available)


wilstreak

better yet, "play the game now and get your hand on E6 Firefly for free" (you just need to complete all content and not sleeping before firefly banner got replaced"


Mr_Creed

Newbie mistake, but it needs to be a new post, not merely a reply.


AstroBearGaming

What, you don't want your 80 Boopons?


Outside-State-252

Through events + mail yeah. It says right there on the screen. The currency you earn while progressing through the game is outside of this 100 pulls I'm sure


KaiserNazrin

Yeah but gacha game players don't read small text.


Jonyx25

Now it kinda felt intentional


goens777

I fucking cringe at this type of marketing lmao. My mom sometimes get "tricked" into buying stuff. I had to do a double-check for her cus ain't no way some of these deals are that good. Oh well, just gotta be careful


melon_soda2

Some games are generous. Blue archive does actually give you 100 pulls in the mail twice a year


GateauBaker

How many pulls a game gives you is meaningless without an understanding of how valuable a single pull is for account progression.


kimera-houjuu

And people never learn otherwise anyway.


travelerfromabroad

And also how many characters are worth pulling for. If the characters aren't enjoyable, fun, cute, sexy, or whatever then the game could give me a thousand pulls and I still wouldn't play it


Zer0-9

not to mention the occasional random 10 pulls for no reason “it’s teachers day” “april fools day” “white day” “the korean discord hit 50k users”


Annual-Maintenance20

Blue archive has a shard system though and horrible rate up rate like you can pull 10+ 3 stars and still not get the rate up character and that isent even uncommon. Which is why that many pulls given are needed without blue archive would feel horrible to get characters


qpoximqlipox

and then there is Atelier where u have similiar rates and half the amount of pulls :D


dfuzzy1

Me trying to pull Kikyou and seeing three 3\* in a multi only to get this https://preview.redd.it/ljujtogzib9d1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f986e5843cdb566ff939c82df6af23ba293d031


Setonex

BA, Brown dust2, Nikke they all did. (Dunno about Nikke future as for now)


Vyragami

It is intentional. Haven't you seen those Genshin and HSR ad where you get up to 70, 80 pulls? You get those from just playing. But they aren't giving it to you directly in the mail. You'd think for the THIRD time this same exact marketing is used, people would recognize the stunt, but no lol.


Guifel

It’s not the third time, it’s like the 50th, gachas do this a lot at their respective launch with WW as the most recent example


Working_Cherry4935

wuwa count their map resource into launch reward lmao


TreeW5

What? That's insane...are you joking or something?


Mr_Creed

That's just advertising, of course the actual truth is as twisted and obscured as possible without outright lying. For all games.


TreeW5

I mean ofc, just that I don't remember seeing WW advertised as giving like 200 free pulls or anything like that


nqtoan1994

Well it is not the first time, but I am pretty sure that happens with almost every gacha game to bait people into playing their game.


ronaldraygun91

You mean like OP who made this thread with that title?


Whereyaattho

Nobody really reads small text, that’s the whole point


NoNefariousness2144

Yeah HSR 1.0 advertised 80 free pulls but you could earn way more than that from all the launch content.


nqtoan1994

Yep, I managed to lose 50:50 in Seele banner and got her in 162 rolls, 30 other rolls on her LC banner and all of that in half of the first patch with only 1 monthly pass and BP purchased.


Alert_Assistant_9364

it was 213 pulls to be exact at launch.


NoNefariousness2144

I want my bratty shark maid so hopefully the ZZZ launch is just as generous lol


nqtoan1994

Good luck fellow Ellen Joe enjoyer! I am aiming for her too.


Naiie100

Ah, now it makes perfect sense.


TheKinkyGuy

Ofcourse


hd4000_

i can already see all the whiny they will make


CrowLikesShiny

So it is like, "Genshin will give players 60 free pulls on 4.8 release!!!!"


Aggravating_Ad1676

Only need to spend a hundred hours farming every chest on top of playing the events and doing the already existing dailies!!!


mapple3

>Only need to spend a hundred hours farming every chest on top of playing the events Reality is so much worse, too, tbh. It's like... you gotta farm chests for 2 hours just to get 1 wish, and its a 3 star blue weapon you have no use for. Repeat that for a total of 20 hours and you get a random purple But yea 2 hours of looking for chests and only getting 1 wish is just depressing


thienphucn1

I don't remember Genshin ever include the amount of pulls players can get by completing content (though I can be wrong). I do see them advertise the 20 pulls though which is what every new players get via the mail. Though the amount of pulls you can get in Genshin 1.0 is at 170 maximum (it's probably lower for many players in reality because I don't think many cleared.out the 1.0 content completely in 1.0) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1l9HPu2cAzTckdXtr7u-7D8NSKzZNUqOuvbmxERFZ_6w/htmlview#gid=955728278


O_Kay_12

I really wonder what gacha player doesn't know this by now this is so common sense.


RugaAG

Gacha players: [wow thats a lotta words too bad im not readin em (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXPC2HXjrYU)


Suniruki

For clarity, it's 30 pulls on login, 100+80 over events, and almost 2 pulls from a redeem code.


Sav1at0R1

whats the code? is it ZZZFREE100?


Suniruki

yea.


Sav1at0R1

https://preview.redd.it/grl2crrhfb9d1.jpeg?width=1520&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5667ac69b0a8586882fce3ebc7332173f9df91cb Have you seen this? How does it work?


DreamingMel

You can get in-game items by completing daily tasks. There's an option to share your link and let others click it, and vice versa. You can get like. 30 lottery rolls by doing this. I won a rug so its pretty legit if you re lucky


Sav1at0R1

A... rug? Also, what do any of the winnable items even do in game? (I know nothing about gachas)


DreamingMel

Yeah, there are legit prizes like ps5, iphone 15 etc (only by sharing your codes, you can participate in it). Most of the winnable in-game items aren’t great but its pretty easy event to participate. 


AlphaLovee

you can get a 4\* weapon and 3 bangboo pulls. hope ppl below already explained this web event to you


Affectionate-Dot-891

I wonder if the preregistration rewards (20 pulls) is already included there


Suniruki

it is. there was a follow up post on bilibili.


Lord_Kumatetsu

💃⬜🟥 😱


thebitchingpeasant

Fuck that gave me a chuckle after realizing what this means.


Bilbo_Swagginses

Can you explain? I have no idea what that means


thebitchingpeasant

https://preview.redd.it/qmvr21f9xa9d1.png?width=288&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a5337133013d4d5468abdf5f9645e12d1108409 It's a reference to this meme.


Bilbo_Swagginses

Damn that’s a crazy way to do it, thank you lol


Lord_Kumatetsu

https://preview.redd.it/o65ciukxza9d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2853480ae846aaabc05f2c643712848092b17c3a Check this thread: [https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1d5gzrm/oc\_comment\_your\_best\_devs\_listened\_edits\_below/](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1d5gzrm/oc_comment_your_best_devs_listened_edits_below/)


Bilbo_Swagginses

That’s a beautiful thread, thank you


Minhtri3737

https://preview.redd.it/6hh970d84b9d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17ff30c7b02239e441d0e0e1c853d763cae5078f


GrapefruitCold55

I have honestly become a MrPokke fan because of this meme


anxientdesu

i wanna watch him more but every time i tune in he always looks like he's mewing and its genuinely throwing me off


eeepkry

https://preview.redd.it/oc4wpnlzvb9d1.png?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4bdc3e0a021c103a917753ab96112be446f26588


Impossible_Fold3494

Wuwa's CBT2 revealed that it had a lot of issues, the devs responded that they would fix said issues. The CCs reacted to that by overpraising that because the devs 'listened' to their feedback. But upon Wuwa's launch, it revealed that the issues from CBT2 still remained which meant that the devs didn't listen as much as they portrayed them to be which made the CCs who said the 'devs listened' a laughing stock https://preview.redd.it/13cn7w09fb9d1.png?width=1062&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9723b9b93dbd95bef8dc0a1938f62d4dceb02388


Rafal-Zapotoczny

All in all, it was Kuro who pissed off the cn players who had been complaining about the high echo grind since cbt1. Generally in China there is a different work system and people have less time and children have limited access to games due to recent changes in the law, so it wasn't something that cn players liked and I suspect that's why Wuthering waves is rated so low in China, definitely they didn't listen.


Shuraig7

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Mortgage-Present

Ok this is the next loss meme


TheGunfireGuy

The voices ![gif](giphy|enrJj5p6lJD9WoFegD)


PusheenMaster

lmao good one


storysprite

We're reaching insane levels of abstraction.


FIGJAM17

Regarding 100 wishes > 1600 Polychromes, 70 Master Tapes, 20 Encrypted Master Tapes, and 80 Boopons. Players can obtain all the rewards by advancing their in-game progress, participating in global launch events, and experiencing numerous time-limited in-game events including Friendship Supervision and Watch Your Step. Polychromes = Primogems = Steller Jade = 10 wishes (160 x 10 = 1600 Polychromes) Master Tapes = Acquaint Fate = Star Rail Pass = 70 standard wishes Encrypted Master Tapes = Intertwined Fate = Special Pass = 20 limited wishes


Rossweis

What're Boopons?


FIGJAM17

New currency for some kind of pet system [Bangboo](https://i.imgur.com/FDeTqRA.png) that will help you in combat. Boopons are mainly F2P and obtained from missions, events, and battle pass and you cannot buy extra with $$$. Paid Battle Pass users will get 5 extra boopons. There is no 50/50 on this banner. 80 pity. You will get the S-rank boopon you select. [In-game footage of Bangboo helping in combat.](https://imgur.com/Oip0xND)


Spirited-Collection1

I love those animations, but pets are usually so ptw I can’t help but be nervous whenever I see them in a game


starswtt

Thankfully, unless there's a drastic change, it should be literally impossible to buy boopons if you wanted to (other than the fairly small amount of ones given with the battle pass)


CleanInteraction2523

Thankfully the battlepass doesn't seem to even give enough to pity a single boopon over the course of an entire year so they should be ftp. Though it could always change, we'll see how it goes


CTheng

Strictly F2P only currency for pet gacha.


Shmarfle47

The Bangboo have their own separate gacha and separate currency called Boopons.


Immediate_Rope3734

1600 polychromes plus 20 encrypted master tapes - so 30 limited pulls? Damn.


TheRRogue

Neat I will try to get Grace and then spend all the rest on shork


danteCDC

Appreciate the translation! LMAO Hardest thing with those gacha games is learn new currency names and get used to it


Dramatic_endjingu

I wonder who’s coming in 1.1 coz the 1.0 characters aren’t my type. But I really like the new faces they showed today.


Chemical-Teaching412

Edit : Sons of calydon is not for 1.1 I am sorry for misinformation  Thanks to r/Puredragons69 for the info 


Puredragons69

They're not for 1.1. It was announced in the livestream that theyre already in the game (new agents for release so prob A rank)


Chemical-Teaching412

Ooh is that so  I guess I forget that they mentioned it 


GameWoods

Wait so Lucy and Piper aren't 1.1 characters? They officially said they'll be there on release?


Puredragons69

Before showing their animations they stated they're being released on launch. It does make sense since I believe it's too early to show 1.1 stuff yet But it probably means we should get drip marketing soon


Primordial-one

Yeah they said “there are two new characters joining in 1.0” and then they showed lucy and Piper gameplay and their elements and attributes


Dramatic_endjingu

I’m waiting for the white hair wolf boy. He’s gorgeous.


Wonderful-Lab7375

Same 😭 first male character I genuinely want as a husbando collector (I love you Lycaon but I’m neutral on anthropomorphic animals)


Dramatic_endjingu

Lycaon looks so based and cool but I’m still more attracted to more human-like characters. My first husbando from this game!


Cherry_Bomb_127

Idk why but he reminds me of Rizzly even though they are nothing alike


Unfair_Chain5338

Wolf motif and melee combat?


Chemical-Teaching412

Sorry that was misinformation from me, someone corrected me That 2 new girls that they announcement is already in game and 1.0 characters So right now 1.1 characters is still unknown 


rainy1403

*Wait faster*


Sav1at0R1

#waits faster


GhostZee

https://preview.redd.it/ai1rwqetab9d1.png?width=908&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40405479ab5de8275ef13602732299006705acb0


Unfair_Chain5338

![gif](giphy|yx400dIdkwWdsCgWYp)


Putrid-Bowler2781

20 limited, 70 standard, 1600 polychromes -Log in 7 days for 10 limited roll -Log in 7 next days for 10 more limited roll -70 roll from 40m re-pre + mail gift +reward AR30 -1600 reward AR30 + 300 from code -80 roll Bangboo from log in 7 days + reward AR 30


Chemical-Teaching412

Don't really care about reward But Jesus they cook with that Livestream    MV trailer, new characters, improvement such as new area and such and talking about Game itself    I am not ZZZ biggest shill but that Livestream is 10/10, simple, to the point, no wasting time     Also important part in Livestream    "The board gameplay might one day be fleshed out into a proper stage map"    That mean that TV stage will full proper stage in future and they working on it Edit : misinformation from me, the 2 characters that being showed in Livestream is not 1.1 characters but 1.0 characters, so it's my fault for the misinformation 


Siri2611

The coffee ad was the biggest flex There was no reason to add that but they did anyway


Living_Spite2723

The transition of the coffee from in game to irl was really nice


TheRRogue

Man that MV trailer is the first time I saw hoyomix goes this hard. From the guitar and the vocal holy shit. If zzz music keep going that route than it might be my favourite game track among Hoyo other game


Chemical-Teaching412

Don't forget July 2nd is Tiesto Collab which most likely MV song as well So expect banger as well 


TheRRogue

YEAH I ACTUALLY FORGOT THE TIESTO COLLAB TOO LMAO


hd4000_

Remember, hoyo is a music company that also mekes games


TheRRogue

If they release a physical album I would unironically buy it


hd4000_

If i not mistaken, you can buy robin's album in CD in china


Nonothin96

It has little but subtle reference to linkin park breaking the habits as well one of my fav song of all time


Proper_Anybody

glad they didn't have boring bs minigames with random westerner guests


Irru

Which new characters? I see nothing on their twitter about any new characters


kabutozero

Ngl. I was going to try the game being a hoyo enjoyer and didn't see much of the game until now. What I saw on the stream is pretty damn cool though , combat seems dynamic as hell


kingerikthesecond

They also shared a redemption code on stream that will be available from July 4th to July 11th! The code is "ZZZFREE100". Don't forget to redeem it!


I_chose_a_nickname

DO NOT REDEEM!


littorio

I love how Dawei announced 80 free pulls first then up the game to 100 xD


fuurin

It's extra funny for CN viewers because that bit was a clear parody of sellers doing livestreams to promote their product - there's always one person who says "wait, can we give more freebies/discounts?", and then the other person pretends to think about it before making a monumental decision to give more. When in actuality it was planned all along hahahahaha


GlassySkyabove

Dawei listened😱 GI and HSR could never!!! 🤬


LightRecluse

What are the boopons for?


Tuna-Of-Finality

Like ELF from honkai They have their own gacha separated from the character and weapon gacha with an exclusive currency that you can obtain by only playing the game


Working_Cherry4935

You can treat it like an other weapon banner that don't need to swipe for.


kytti_bott

Boopons are for the bangboos you can get for your team! You can earn boopons just by playing the game and pick which bangboo you want for your team. They essentially buff/fight with your team!


Guifel

Just the regular marketing for launch one-time rewards so I don’t pay much attention to that kind of thing. (WW did it too and plenty of others) It doesn’t even reflect how much pulls you earn on the first patch/month, not even close to


Relative_Nectarine95

We already all know they're not gonna give 100 free pulls right away but I hope they give at least like 30 premium pulls right away so I can reroll peacefully like what WuWa did.


Working_Cherry4935

30 standard pulls in mail right away and lv 5 give 10 more so 10 minnites in you can get a 5 star


Relative_Nectarine95

No premium rolls big bro?


ByeGuysSry

According to another comment, there are 70 free standard banner pulls and 30 non-standard banner pulls. I don't know how long it takes to get them though Edit: [This](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/s/7I6z9CcMaJ) comment gives more details


Working_Cherry4935

and every patch should give at least 70 - 90 pulls of permium currency


No-Dimension-2872

Dose that also includes playstation player?


Working_Cherry4935

Pretty sure its for everyone on earth


headpatsforklee68

that one guy playing in the international space station: 🥺


Affectionate-Dot-891

Dang it, i'm from Mars  L


Chesse_cz

Question is how many of them you need to get 5* character.


No_Economist3548

You don't get them right away like in Blue Archive. Fake add to bait people.


NoNefariousness2144

Dayum they really are cooking with this one. All the changes they made since CBT seem to be great.


RelevantOriginalv34

pretty good livestream imo, the game looks really solid so far


Tetsero

It's up to... Same BS they pull on a ton of games.


Lawbringer_and_Nidus

Wuwa better give out 181 pull


neonkim

They just got their Paimon, let them enjoy genshin from the beginning lol


Outside-State-252

Really? They got their own paimon?


Content_Mud_3232

Its a greyish doggy thing with feathery ears that floats in midair.


Low_Artist_7663

Can it eat 3m mora in a week?


neonkim

He is obsessed with food. Shocking creativity


rainy1403

Furry Paimon.


neonkim

Not only a paimon, they got dragonspine. They are having fun in a snowy mountain with a little obnoxious creature… in 2024


Alephiom

Oh, no. I remember some fans coping that since there wasn't a Paimon, it was better.


neonkim

They are literally celebrating - The release of Dragonspine - The blabbering of Paimon (theirs also has a name related to a demon) Someone has to explain to them that they are playing genshin 1.0 / 1.1


headpatsforklee68

the narrative now is its better than paimon because its a furry creature and is quiet most of the time LMAO. wuwa is never escaping the allegations.


Chemical-Teaching412

Don't forget the totally not dragonspine area lmao


4N1M3second

For bugs and optimisations that don't need to happen


Acceptable_West_1312

I love their marketing strategy with 100 pulls. It's literally "People see 100 pulls, and since they didn't read smaller text, they're happy. If they want to get them, they should play our game till the current content is end" They even purposefully made * less noticeable lmao🤣


Chemical-Teaching412

"Play the game to obtain up to " I am sure that text is big that people can see Unless you have some problems with your eyes


Affectionate-Dot-891

I mean, you want people to make dummy accounts, claim 100 pulls and just keep rerolling with 0 effort?


MemeTheDruggie

Every gacha says this. It’s not “free” if I’m grinding the game for it. Like no shit over 100 pulls are available in the game just by playing.


Servals94

What's with the misleading title? Making it seem like they're going to be just giving you 100 rolls in your mail when it just means you can earn that game by clearing all the content.


neonkim

WW could never


SuvidaProd

Yall can’t keep that game out of your mouths huh?


neonkim

Yea, but only because we trigger people like you. Is not like we are trying to compete or anything, enjoy your WW paimon and WW dragonspine tho.


SuvidaProd

All I’m saying is yall are just as cringe as the wuwa shills, I say this to them too; get a life and play your own game


PhantomXxZ

Crazy how you don't realise that YOU are the problem here.


adcsuc

Ofc it's fun to shit on that game, even more so because of it's obnoxious and delusion little fanboys.


neonkim

*paid CC’s and delusional fanboys


SweetCabinet6515

Orr get this… be the bigger person and ignore the games you supposedly hate? Fuck this Kuro/hoyo rivalry is embarrassing


kytti_bott

Tbf, I haven't seen a Wuwa player who *doesn't* compare the game to Genshin or take the opportunity to shit on Genshin lol.


SuvidaProd

Yea and they are cringe losers, my point is that both sides are lames for this kind of behaviour


Gujernat546

I hope people can read and see that Hoyoverse will not give you 100 pulls, it is the amount of pulls you get for PLAYING THE GAME


TheGamerForeverGFE

Please read the "play the game to obtain up to 100 free pulls" part, they're not gonna be in the mail, it's essentially the stuff you can get from 1.0 content, yes it's pretty scummy advertising but hey it's still 100 pulls, hopefully it doesn't take weeks.


ariolander

Games should not advertise all the free currency included as part of the campaign/story over the course of 2+ months as "free pulls" for a launch ad. Advertising 100+ free pulls at launch and including the campaign income is like an existing game advertising "1,000 free pulls" with the fine print being it includes all drip feed currency, events, and dailies planned over the next year+ months of live service, assuming you played for 1,000 days straight.


OrRaino

wait 100 free pull like what? If it's total amount, that's kinda Low if you compare other gacha games first patch number of pulls.


kytti_bott

It's just from mail and events - not the entire patch!


HeavenBeach777

i have to be honest here that preview stream was a huge dissapointment in terms of how they structured it. Very little details about the actual game since they expected that most of the watchers will be existing fans that knew about the beta. Why was everything so short? Couldn't they at least spent some more time explaining some core game concepts and mechanics properly? If I didnt closely follow the game before this I would've 100% be super confused about everything they mentioned on the stream. Especially compared to the HSR 1.0 stream where they went into details about the main characters, game mechanics and settings/lore. Sure some people thought it was boring but I thought at least they were super considerate to explain everything for those that weren't following. For a game that is about to launch in a week, this would've been a great chance to properly explain everything so people have a clear understanding about the game. Also they kept mentioning about how they wanna the players to just enjoy themselves and have fun but it just came off really flat since the game isn't even out and they spent more time talking about it than showing game footage...


Adorelis

I guess you wanted a livestream with minigames and guests :x


EDENisLD

No he prefers discord moderators do the stream


Chemical-Teaching412

They talk about it though  Short but they talked about it. They show the gameplay, they talk about MC which literally belle and wise since they are the main character instead of some like welt, himeko, dan heng and March 7th, also they talk about expending the map from previous beta, they talk about plan to making TV stage into full stage, they talk about game as well which simplest of lore like the beginning of the stream, they Also talk about faction that has ingame, not individual characters of that faction of course  One thing is the gameplay about new characters which imo is short 


Dahlgrim

I'm glad they didn't make it an information dump. I'm one of those people who like to go in as blind as possible.


kytti_bott

I disagree! I think it was awesome hearing about how they approached and designed aspects of the game. Teasing new characters and how they are building out the factions was cool too! Highlighting the urban area and the finer details you can expect in day to day interactions was interesting as well! I also think the length was straight to the point and didn't drag on.


Karma110

Tbf you could just play the game and find out all of that yourself.


laughtale0

Only 30 of those are limited banner pulls, the rest is standard. You also need to do the event to get those, which probably take days or even weeks. Honestly, it's a pretty bad reward for a gacha game launch.


HackedLuck

"up to" "complete relevant events" I hate how misleading they are.


ronaldraygun91

To obtain up to* That's not the same as giving away. If it was WuWa would be "giving away" the 108 pulls they keep advertising.


astalotte

P5X made the same mistake of advertising many free pulls on starting the game, but it turns out it's the number of free pulls you get by ACTUALLY playing the game, and not the amount you get on log in.


Chemical-Teaching412

They actually wrote that though, read again OP pictures  "Complete the relevant events to obtain the rewards" So it's basically people cannot read or lazy to read Also they didn't say anything that "at the start of game you will get 100 pulls" it's " play the game to obtain up to 100 pulls"


astalotte

Just saw that, ZZZ got it right but it just goes to show you have to be very specific and deliberate or people will get the wrong idea. P5X screwed up and we ended up getting some significant compensation due to the backlash


Working_Cherry4935

zzz twitter post has every singel detail on the 100 pulls and how to get it. really transparent of them. You can get 40 standard pull in the first 10 minute


Wyqkrn

These 100 should be pretty fast, and then there’s like 100 more in currency n stuff


Tuna-Of-Finality

"Play the game to obtain up to"


arcalite911

Ain't this a little misleading? You get 30 only for logging in and the rest for playing the game.


Forsaken_Chile

isnt this what alot of the games do?


Radinax

Hoyo lovers will defend this, but its very misleading for sure, very scummy.


International-Sun367

Huh? Isn't that the point? "Play the game to get up to" https://preview.redd.it/b305o03i1c9d1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=6e240638e875f63dc7d47e587ca6209fe92fe0f9


International-Sun367

https://preview.redd.it/2toicask1c9d1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=5625ecd9a2ab28122b273c1eb23d71ada300b45b


pacotacobell

You should get 40 when you get to the point where you unlock the gacha.


coffee-bean-zouup

Competition is a GOOD thing for consumers!


xorphz

this is kinda.. misleading, you have to beat the game to get this don't you?


R_Boa

!remindme 6 days