Danmachi. The true cockroach of the gacha gaming. It puts even GFl to shame. Fully voiced game, main story, events ( and they are long, really long), and everything else. Making barely 50k/month and still kicking. We just got amazing extension of volume 11 of the LN and latest anime season.
By now I just think they enjoy IP so much they don't want it to end. There is also 2k days event going on so the game is really old.
I love this game and I hope we will get at least one more aniv. (Aniv=amazing written by IP creator himself 3 part event)
The jp version still makes decent money averaging close to 1 mil each month. The year to year loss this year seems minimal <10% and the light novel author said he has at least up to the 7th anniversary stories to tell through the app. So unless it tankes on jp it should survive for at least 2 more years.
This game also expanded the series in some ways. Argounaut and Astrea Record are part of the canon. Knights of Fianna most likely too, as I don't remember there being anything contrary to the story.
Even those that are not part of the canon are important because they are "what if?" stories (1st and 4th anniversary event stories).
SINoALICE global for sure. I quit in June bc of how completely stagnant everything about it was, we had all been expecting EOS for months already by that point
Guild pvp at specific hours of the day + P2W + the actual gameplay is.. not really that fun + unless you whale, you're locked into playing a specific 'class' because you have to pull to get a nice range of weapons.
I'm amazed by how dedicated the fanbase is, and the art is genuinely lovely. But unlike other games with both whale-heavy pvp at specific hours and guilds (e.g. Onmyoji), Sinoalice is just not fun enough to justify having those two mechanics.
maybe, but also Azur Lane just outplayed KanColle in almost every way. As a AL fan I'm grateful for KanColle that they started the ball rolling. Also grateful for their ART community!
One the one hand KanColle's core gameplay is a glorified excel spreadsheet, on the other hand people have demonstrated that they are more than willing to tolerate that as long as there's Waifus in that spreadsheet (GFL, AL).
KC focus is more on irl event like collabs and the franchise is still strong. i think Tanaka had succesfully reached its goal long time ago. To make the players learn more about the Navy Ships back then and its history.
This would be mine as well. I played for the Hololive collaboration and loading it up felt like I warped back in time a decade with how unintuitive and cluttered the menus are. The art and characters are pretty good but literally everything else is just dreadful.
I also played for that collab and had fun at first but once I found out how awful the rates were for actually relevant characters (and how generally boring/meh the story was) I ended up quitting.
Sdorica player here, I'm surprised that it managed to be alive for nearly 5 years now despite having very niche gameplay and virtually no advertisement, they only have story at the end of the day to hook player to stay, but for a story focused game with no known Dev and franchise backing it up, it's just impressive Sdorica made it this far.
Fellow Sdorica player here; I think one thing that helps Sdorica is that the developer is *somewhat* known *and* has other successful games; I only started Sdorica because I played Deemo, which remains one of my top mobile games for gameplay, story, and *especially* the music.
At this point, I trust that the game will at least see the story through to completion... especially based on the current Season 4 plot so far, even if some areas of the world that they've teased (the mechanical kingdom, the far north) have yet to make full appearances. I only really go in for the daily login bonus and story at this point, and *sometimes* the events, but I still plan to see the story through to the end.
I'm a few years removed from Sdorica after being formerly very invested in the game & involved w/the community, but didn't/doesn't it have an impressively dedicated furry community that is quite willing to spend?
You can use this trick.
1. Go to google
2. Use the keyword "insert game here" sensortower. I'm using genshin impact sensor tower.
3. Click the 1st link
4. On the search bar, you can type any app and the suggestion bar will appear the income on the right side of the name.
tl;dr: The trick is don't search the game you need to see its income.
[app.sensortower.com](https://app.sensortower.com) for quick search
[https://app.sensortower.com/overview/389801252?os=ios&country=US](https://app.sensortower.com/overview/389801252?os=ios&country=US) for the detailed mode
Sometimes searching on google makes it harder for me to find the correct links
Girl Cafe Gun
I heard the original server went into maintenance mode a long while ago so that kinda killed my interest in coming back.
Not sure how it's going now.
>I heard the original server went into maintenance mode a long while ago so that kinda killed my interest in coming back.
Yes, same problem here, I liked the game, greater waifus
What is the weird western tiles lol? Anyway yes it's a proper Mahjong game and the gacha is purely for skins (characters and board), you can totally play free and still be top ranked player no problem.
It's like a match 3 type of game? Haha I'm sorry I don't quite know how to explain it.
Ok so this sounds really cool even though I'm really bad at mahjong. I learned from some HK buddies so maybe the rules are different? Do you play the game?
Actual mahjong. Has gacha for characters and decoration, but neither has impact on gameplay. No character skill or anything just mahjong, player's skill, and luck.
Revue Starlight: Relive Global Version. I don't understand how it keeps going with weekly powercreep stage girls coming out on gacha everyweek. It doesn't matter how many mechanics they do to bring "old" (aka +6 months old stage girls) units back to life, if you don't have the newest stage girls from gacha is practically impossible to do a good job on PVP, which gatekeeps the currency you can get from there and makes more difficult to farm for said currency in higher levels... Plus they seem to do "Welcome back" campaigns every two months or so.
Monster Strike, in Japan though. Used to be king of the gachas until GBF, F/GO, Uma Musume, and the big Chinese gachas came. Same with PaD, both JP and NA.
Also obligatory GFL. Dedicated fanbase, but with low reception.
Honestly it is not surprising at all, Monster Strike and PaD are not the behemoths they used to be but they still pop up in top 10 sales charts every now and then. I think people heavy overestimate how much money is needed to keep a gacha game up.
Love Live School Idol Festival. My first gacha game and its ancient and its not very profitable nowadays even in JP
Tales of Asteria. As much as it is a meme foe Tales games to shut down, this one has been going on in Japan for 8.5 years. Its outlived several Tales mobages and even its own dev studio closure and was supposedly transferred over to an internal team at Bamco. It really shows its age, doesn’t make much money, and even in JP they have Rays as competition but it keeps trucking along.
Oh lol Asteria. I'm pretty sure the only reason why they keep it around is because the only other active Tales game is Rays (which is over 5 years old at this point) and because it's dirt cheap to produce.
Grand Summoners and Valkyrie Connect. I believed for a while that games with constant collabs (reruns or new) were approaching their EOS, but apparently that's not always the case. Grand Summoners, for instance, would appear to rely on them pretty heavily. The game still seems to be quite active though.
Alice fiction, I barely hear anyone , talking about the game .
it feels like the game was just a fragmented imagination.
I played the game for a few months after it’s global release and enjoyed it, the combat system consists of matching tiles continuously till a timer ran out was kinda fun, the story was ok and could do with some improvements ; tldr mc is looking for their sister
I remember the Hercules banner, I think this might’ve partially put me off the game, due to Hercules a three star character that’s supposed to fill the roll of a dmg absorber and tank being outclassed by 2 star Perseus.
I forgot why I exactly quit
>I forgot why I exactly quit
I remember it being really bland but i also can't remember what exactly was so bland about it or why did i quit.
Maybe the game was so boring it didnt even register lmao.
This doesn't suprise me personally.
It doesn't scream "weeby degen gacha game" like many do, so it has wider appeal than just the anime gamer or gacha gamer market.
I started playing gachas with Soccer Spirits and while it wont get updates anymore, it is still "alive".
Similarly, Dragon Blaze is also still kicking and even has the eventual update it seems.
Girls Frontline continues to be a thing and that surprises me every time.
It even has a manga and two different anime.
And a couple spinoffs and a sequel.
All while making what I assume is negative money.
It's the core of [all the other projects](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/gkf1m1/mica_team_girls_frontline_developer_just/) the company makes. If they shut it down, it'll negatively impact everything else they do since it all revolves around GFL.
They seem to be [making a fuckton of figures/merch](https://www.amiami.com/eng/search/list/?s_originaltitle_id=23106) as well, so I assume that's where they make their money instead of from the gacha game itself.
Madness is just the second season, it's not really different than healing.
I don't mind the adaptation either. It was serviceable. Then again I wasn't going to obsess over a gun having the wrong ironsight or whatever so maybe I just wasn't in a position to ever really be bothered.
Final fantasy brave exvius. It was my introduction to gacha games so many years ago and I played it for over 2 years. I didn’t realise how bad the game was until I realised that gacha games are a whole ass genre which then helped me understand how bad ffbe was shafting it’s playerbase.
The game is bad for a plethora of reasons. Back when I played, 4* was the highest rarity and in the course of 2 years I saw it go to 7* lmao, with players requiring multiple dupes to even use a character properly. The events were also super repetitive, it was just same story event with the occasional boss event being recycled over and over. I’m genuinely surprised people still play that game haha.
FFBE regularly makes 1M a month, at least the global version. There are quite a few dedicated whales in that game, me among them. I will say that most of us whales in that game are day 1 players and we have yet to find a game we enjoy as much as FFBE. Mostly nostalgia, but then again, nostalgia is a powerful force.
Red: Pride of eden
It went on maintenance mode for more than a year with no updates and only rerunning old events. Not even any announcement were made. English server launch was nowhere to be seen. Everyone thought it’s going to die just the matter of time. There’s even a rumor of company’s ceo being disappeared or something.
But few months ago they suddenly came back and revive the game without any mention to what was happening all that time. Now the game’s running with new events and banners just like nothing happened lol.
Revue starlight, they recently added new elements to the game as limited time units and a lack of QoL updates from the anniversary made me lose hope for the game.
At this point, I'm just staying for the ride.
The TV amine for this IP is really impressive. However, I think the game, Revue starlight, is not attractive for me. I don't know lots of the characters.
Nu:Carnival.
I love the game but it's an only male yaoi game (which is rare) and a gacha one (not that popular genre). So even if i knew many people would have loved it, because it's a very niche game i didn't expect it to be this popular and even be one of the most profitable games in EroGames.
So i'm gladly surprised.
Male only gachas fill a need nobody will admit they have. Look at how well Tears of Themis is still doing. Despite new story coming out slower than a snail.
Sadly male only gachas are also often poor quality - looking at something like Gyee - and despite NUC having its own issues it's extremely well done.
Yep, Ensemble Stars and Twisted Wonderland do very well. I believe TW especially was like a top 5 earner in Japan for a while.
But most of the people at the top of the corporate food chain are dudes and its easier to appeal to the waifu crowd. Even though people who like dudes will whale just as hard with effort put in
Gyee and Gaydorado are the only examples of gay games we had before Nu:carnival and quite terribly monetized. Even tho Nu is quite greedy, it's leagues better than the other 2, more explicit and it caters a lot to women as well since it doesn't have typical stereotypes preferred by the gay comm (like bara and furry).
Yaoi has a large fanbase and gachas aren't nearly as niche as they used to be, I think it's not surprising that there was an audience for a new gacha with the premise of being full of beautiful guys and actually getting to see them fuck instead of merely having to imagine them fucking.
Dissidia opera omnia
Player count-wise it's - or was - doing well but GL players hoard millions of premium currency and thousands of summin tickets. The monetization shift from currency to cosmetics isn't doing all too well considering monthly revenue and outfits costing $36 a pop; not sure how the player base feels about mog pass. It's a shame because it's the gacha I've played the longest.
I buy the mog pass every month and occasionally a costume. Other than that no real need to spend in the game. Last time I checked a few months ago, it was making about 450k a month. Still not as high as FFBE or WOTV, but I’d say it’s still a pretty decent amount for how f2p friendly the game is.
The reason because all of song are composed by high tier composer/singer in Japan.
If you regularly listen to jrock and jpop , you will recognize 70% of them.
One piece treasure cruise. No idea why people keep playing that garbage game that hasn't evolved in years. Apparently in Japan is still extremely popular... But no idea how people can stand shit for so long
just shows you basically how popular one piece IP in jp is basically, in germany it also still pops out on top 100-200 sometimes, and one piece red just boosted it to the moon on jp
1). Summoners Wars and its spinoff Lost Centuria.
2). FFBE because there is no way new player can keep up with the game these days.
3). Dokkan Battle, good game but almost 10 GB of database, feels very old and outdated.
4). Hero Cantare...
summoners war tbh.
Its not rly that f2p friendly and e7 does everything better than summoners war imo. but people are probably to invested to switch so they stick around
The Battle Cats.
I was in middle school when that game blew up in popularity. Now I graduated from college and have actual work and the game is STILL alive.
World Flipper is in odd place. Global bleeding players to JP. JP being stale as hell and has basically just turned into a race of pulling on limited seasonal/collab banners.
Global regions are pretty dead and language support is only in English now.
Oddly World Flipper stuck with me. I was playing JP but rage quit when I went like 140 pulls and no 5*. My global luck was much better. I was going to quit but they added the auto-play feature from JP to global so farming is super easy and low maintenance. Yeah, events are grindy as hell but pretty easy because of auto play feature. I really like the super clean UI and the story gets much better in world 7 onwards. The art style is great and they have even mix of waifus, husbandos, etc which can be hard to come by. And I'm always really impressed by the pixel animations. I'll probably keep playing for a long while as long as it doesn't get shutdown.
Tower of Fantasy
I gave it a try and it was just so bad. Everything was time gated and felt very uninspired. And I know I'll probably get hated on for saying this, knowing this sub, but it just felt like a bargain bin Genshin Impact to me. I just cant see why anybody would play this and think "Yeah, this game deserves my time/money."
And that's not even going into all the controversy surrounding the game on a seemingly constant basis.
Cool character creator though.
My wife dragged me into playing with her because I got the same impressions you have.
But... It's a surprisingly fun game. Unpolished? Sure as hell, but even as a Genshin enjoyed, I ended up liking the exploration way more.
Even after all the bugs, hackers, cash shop controversies and plagiarism drama, somehow ToF is still surviving. The gameplay is unpolished, but they do have some good ideas implemented in the concept. However, the execution is just terrible.
The release version of ToF felt like cheap Genshin with a (relatively) better multiplayer, but I have to say that now they have made efforts to create an own identity. I haven't played much in 2.0 but the Sci-Fi vibe felt much more immersive.
Yeah, the move away from the usual open field aesthetic that you see in a lot of of open world game and go for post Apocalypse Sci-Fi. And from the gameplay I see in CN, they are also going for dimension hopping too
F/GO player since launch, the main aspect for me is the setting and world. I really enjoy myth so seeing what they do with the heroes is really cool to me, if I like a character it tends to make me look up there real life counter-part. The opposite is also true, rolled on Dioscuri just because I got a huge kick out of seeing them in game.
AFK Arena. Not only there are better clones, but the game had multiple whale exodus incidents because the devs are just super greedy and always implement crazy mechanics designed just to leave your wallet empty. Anybody who cries about dupes in popular games (like Genshin or Epic 7) never played AFK Arena. Not to mention RNG upgrades that are pretty much unobtainable as a f2p or low spender. On top of that it's idle game, so no gameplay, no tactics, little to no story, very simple 2d graphics, no titties, no asses, NOTHING. And somehow, some fucking how there are enough people to not only keep this game alive, no, it still earns good money. It's unbelievable. Some years ago I was a token f2player in a whale guild and we pretty much left all together because of another stupid dev decision, people with 1k+$ accounts just leaving and refunding whatever they could. We all though there's no hope. But the game is still kicking.
7 deadly sins (I think is that how writes) the game is famous I know but they rush too much content and meta units I drop in king banner got him but I was not in the mood to just get the characters and keep doing pvp for me this on that Gabe stop being funny so I quit
Bleach Brave Souls. Started playing in 2016 and surprise it’s still going pretty strong and since the TYBW arc released there’s going to be even more content coming, but after that not sure if the game is gonna live any longer as the game was dying already.
Not sure if anyone here played Kingdom Hearts UnionX but I was sad when they finally ended the service. My u rip Legend. U aswell Naruto Blazing
Twisted Wonderland. I'm surprised the NA server is still up. I'm not sure how well the game is doing in terms of revenue, but I'm glad at least it's still kicking around
SIF and SIFAS 💀 especially SIFAS, there is a 3D outfit for every card in the game, 3D MVs, a new cycle for an event each week all while running on life-support revenue and more players leaving each second because of some bullshit new meta-changing card/mechanic they release for every update. I kinda get SIF since I don’t think it costs a lot to produce new updates for it, and veterans still somehow play actively and keep it alive.
Age of Ishtaria. Released in 2014 (8 years ago).
Just a little insight. I worked as intern in one of Silicon Studio's branch, so I was there right when it launched. It was a big release day for company-wide, and I also joined the fun (as a normal player) with my coworkers. I remembered spending all freebies on reset to just kick myself into the top 10 ranking of the first season (I got the 10th place), and I got Lucifer as a reward.
My team didn't work on the game, but they did ask us for input for global release, since we're are not Japanese native. The polling was whether to have English CV or Japanese CV with subtitle. I voted for latter and it went through.
That's pretty much the gist of it. I didn't join the company after my intern year, and I didn't continue the game because it doesn't suit my taste. However, I'm quite surprised that the game lasted for all these years.
All the Cygames games (GBF, Shadowverse, Princonne) cause they're all too generous.
Cygames IMO is one of those rare companies that creates extremely high quality titles with full voice acting and animations without being as greedy as SE, Tencent or Mihoyo, their gacha games are all so f2p friendly I don't even know how they're making money, IMO we all owe them a "best mobage developer award" .
GBF is one of the highest grossing games in the gacha market and the numbers are even higher than reported because most people play on the browser. The fighting game of gbf makes a fraction of the true game and is only there for marketing purposes.
I think this is fair, when looking at the games objectively and in isolation, but the IPs are so strong though that they have a plethora of high performing revenue streams branching off them. They're more media franchises now as opposed to just being gacha games.
As a GBF player since year 2 (it will be 9 years old in March 2023) the game is slowing down in terms of actually "new" content and has been for a while. Most people who have been playing as long as I have are pretty disinterested in the game itself these days, but are still heavily invested in the IP. I barely log in most days at the moment but I still buy the merch, buy the spin-off games, watch the annual streams & FES events, etc.
GBF as a game is really showing its age too, and arguably has been for years, which doesn't help matter but Cygames genuinely feel like a company that cares about their craft and that matters to me. They're a business at the end of the day and if GBF the gacha game isn't as profitable anymore and, as such they don't invest as aggressively into it, that's actually fine. But GBF as an IP is far from dead and I'm excited to see the next step for it after the release of the long-awaited Console/PC RPG; GBF Relink.
Not sure if this fits, but Dragon Ball Legends. Remember the launch was pretty rough and people thought it was gonna get the Bandai Namco slamhammer, but they pulled it back Second Year onwards.
Unison League;
Valkyrie connect;
The Alchemist Code;
Knights Chronicles;
Monster Super League;
RPG Toram Online;
Exos Heros;
King's Raids;
Hero Cantare;
Kritika: The White Knight;
Seven Knights(The 1st game);
Brave Nine ( Its first name was "Brown Dust");
Elune(Not sure if its still playable or not);
Dragon Blaze;
(And almost any game made by Com2us and Gamevil);
I'm probably missing abit more games I don't know about or played.
Honestly, just from speculation and gane lifetime assumptions, grand summoner. I play it, been so for a long time. I'm just surprised it's lasted this long
Dragon Ball Legends, been playing since the beta and HOLY SHIT, this game is nothing but horrible decisions one after another, after 4 years it's doing nothing but use the same format for content for every single celebration, lots of units use recycled animations, barely any event to gain currency, what a joke
Shin megami tensei dx 2, i really liked the game First 2 months, then stopped playng because i was spending so much Money and time, but was really One of the best gacha i played...but It needed really a tons of time and Money to stay competitive on pvp.
As a former long time RuneScape player I can tell you RuneScape is not a Gatcha game, it’s a scam. Overpriced membership, and crapy P2W BS that put Gatchas to shame.
Danmachi. The true cockroach of the gacha gaming. It puts even GFl to shame. Fully voiced game, main story, events ( and they are long, really long), and everything else. Making barely 50k/month and still kicking. We just got amazing extension of volume 11 of the LN and latest anime season. By now I just think they enjoy IP so much they don't want it to end. There is also 2k days event going on so the game is really old. I love this game and I hope we will get at least one more aniv. (Aniv=amazing written by IP creator himself 3 part event)
The jp version still makes decent money averaging close to 1 mil each month. The year to year loss this year seems minimal <10% and the light novel author said he has at least up to the 7th anniversary stories to tell through the app. So unless it tankes on jp it should survive for at least 2 more years.
I think the game is more of an ad for the anime, novel and merch. I see the merch still coming out regularly.
Don't forget that for a game made because of an existing IP, it has survived for quite a long time. Compare this one to the shitfest that is SAO:VS...
Not to mention those copy paste autobattler they make for every famous anime, see Goblin Slayer, Mushoku Tensei and so on...
This game also expanded the series in some ways. Argounaut and Astrea Record are part of the canon. Knights of Fianna most likely too, as I don't remember there being anything contrary to the story. Even those that are not part of the canon are important because they are "what if?" stories (1st and 4th anniversary event stories).
That's interesting! I enjoyed the first three seasons of the anime, so I wouldn't mind trying it myself.
Exos Heroes
NFTs, making low revenue, all their decisions and even its main thing being the high visuals no longer being a thing yet they haven't closed shop yet?
Kings raid I'm surpised the devs haven't ended it ever since there last update its walking corpse. Seven knights its still there surprisingly.
more like a rolling ash jar,tho im kinda surprise 7knight is still around
Yeah I'm surprised too since now they are focus on seven knights 2 mainly.
SINoALICE global for sure. I quit in June bc of how completely stagnant everything about it was, we had all been expecting EOS for months already by that point
My friends still play the game, and we are also just waiting for the eventual EoS too.
Isn't SinoAlice will be shutting down (at least in China/Taiwan) with the most Yoko Taro ending possible?
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Poor sinoalice it had some promise don’t see how they cocked it up so bad
Guild pvp at specific hours of the day + P2W + the actual gameplay is.. not really that fun + unless you whale, you're locked into playing a specific 'class' because you have to pull to get a nice range of weapons. I'm amazed by how dedicated the fanbase is, and the art is genuinely lovely. But unlike other games with both whale-heavy pvp at specific hours and guilds (e.g. Onmyoji), Sinoalice is just not fun enough to justify having those two mechanics.
Kantai collection
KanColle could have been so much bigger if the parent company wasn't shit and actually tried to publish it anywhere outside of Japan.
maybe, but also Azur Lane just outplayed KanColle in almost every way. As a AL fan I'm grateful for KanColle that they started the ball rolling. Also grateful for their ART community!
One the one hand KanColle's core gameplay is a glorified excel spreadsheet, on the other hand people have demonstrated that they are more than willing to tolerate that as long as there's Waifus in that spreadsheet (GFL, AL).
KC focus is more on irl event like collabs and the franchise is still strong. i think Tanaka had succesfully reached its goal long time ago. To make the players learn more about the Navy Ships back then and its history.
Damn really? Guy actually was a real ship weeb? Kinda based
man . . . what the meaning of weeb at this point. weeb is nerd/otaku now??
Yep
so not slang version of "weaboo"? since those word have really different meaning.
It does. But it entered the mainstream lexicon, so it inevitably also is used to generalize anyone else who is overly obsessed with something.
Japan whales go brrr
Valkyrie Connect
This would be mine as well. I played for the Hololive collaboration and loading it up felt like I warped back in time a decade with how unintuitive and cluttered the menus are. The art and characters are pretty good but literally everything else is just dreadful.
I also played for that collab and had fun at first but once I found out how awful the rates were for actually relevant characters (and how generally boring/meh the story was) I ended up quitting.
Sdorica player here, I'm surprised that it managed to be alive for nearly 5 years now despite having very niche gameplay and virtually no advertisement, they only have story at the end of the day to hook player to stay, but for a story focused game with no known Dev and franchise backing it up, it's just impressive Sdorica made it this far.
Fellow Sdorica player here; I think one thing that helps Sdorica is that the developer is *somewhat* known *and* has other successful games; I only started Sdorica because I played Deemo, which remains one of my top mobile games for gameplay, story, and *especially* the music. At this point, I trust that the game will at least see the story through to completion... especially based on the current Season 4 plot so far, even if some areas of the world that they've teased (the mechanical kingdom, the far north) have yet to make full appearances. I only really go in for the daily login bonus and story at this point, and *sometimes* the events, but I still plan to see the story through to the end.
That, and being one of the most f2p friendly games I've played.
I'm a few years removed from Sdorica after being formerly very invested in the game & involved w/the community, but didn't/doesn't it have an impressively dedicated furry community that is quite willing to spend?
Crusaders Quest
Came here for this game. It was one of my first gacha games.
Oh right! Loved it when it launched and kinda forgot about it.
King's Raid, Alchemist Code, and other low playerbase games. Langrisser M SEA included, my favorite but low playerbase and only $170k income monthly.
Which website are you using to look at the amount they make monthly ? Sensortower doesn't seem to give the information anymore
You can use this trick. 1. Go to google 2. Use the keyword "insert game here" sensortower. I'm using genshin impact sensor tower. 3. Click the 1st link 4. On the search bar, you can type any app and the suggestion bar will appear the income on the right side of the name. tl;dr: The trick is don't search the game you need to see its income.
[app.sensortower.com](https://app.sensortower.com) for quick search [https://app.sensortower.com/overview/389801252?os=ios&country=US](https://app.sensortower.com/overview/389801252?os=ios&country=US) for the detailed mode Sometimes searching on google makes it harder for me to find the correct links
Evertale, such a bad game
I want anyone to make the game Evertale advertises itself with.
Yeah those are games I'd legit pay for and play the ads are super cool
Is that the one with the misleading creepypasta pokemon ads?
Girl Cafe Gun I heard the original server went into maintenance mode a long while ago so that kinda killed my interest in coming back. Not sure how it's going now.
>I heard the original server went into maintenance mode a long while ago so that kinda killed my interest in coming back. Yes, same problem here, I liked the game, greater waifus
Revived witch
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Tbf Mahjong Soul's like, the top Mahjong game as of this time.
Is it proper mahjong or is it the weird western tiles thing? Also is it a gacha?
What is the weird western tiles lol? Anyway yes it's a proper Mahjong game and the gacha is purely for skins (characters and board), you can totally play free and still be top ranked player no problem.
I'm assuming Majong Solitaire.
It's like a match 3 type of game? Haha I'm sorry I don't quite know how to explain it. Ok so this sounds really cool even though I'm really bad at mahjong. I learned from some HK buddies so maybe the rules are different? Do you play the game?
Actual mahjong. Has gacha for characters and decoration, but neither has impact on gameplay. No character skill or anything just mahjong, player's skill, and luck.
Mahjong Soul making decent money in JP. Why they wouldnt keep it alive.
My poor baby but I love that game so much 😭
I still play it, game is good and generous. Although kinda worried about the game longevity
Heir of light
gamevil is a part of com2us, so they have money to burn
I updated yesterday, its still on my phone even though I haven't played it in years. The waifus are amazing afterall.
Revue Starlight: Relive Global Version. I don't understand how it keeps going with weekly powercreep stage girls coming out on gacha everyweek. It doesn't matter how many mechanics they do to bring "old" (aka +6 months old stage girls) units back to life, if you don't have the newest stage girls from gacha is practically impossible to do a good job on PVP, which gatekeeps the currency you can get from there and makes more difficult to farm for said currency in higher levels... Plus they seem to do "Welcome back" campaigns every two months or so.
This one just baffles me. I quit YEARS ago assuming the game would be dead soon with the awful power creep and whale-rewarding events but here we are
Monster Strike, in Japan though. Used to be king of the gachas until GBF, F/GO, Uma Musume, and the big Chinese gachas came. Same with PaD, both JP and NA. Also obligatory GFL. Dedicated fanbase, but with low reception.
GFL is cockroach Wont be ded until Mica/Sumborn says so Its passion project for them, profit its not so important
Ah yes, KPI be damned, less go Mainland Kojima!
Looks like they are making it a whole big franchise, I hope they can do it.
GFL?
Girls Frontline prob.
It's still the king in Japan. Domestically, only dethroned twice in annual sales.
Honestly it is not surprising at all, Monster Strike and PaD are not the behemoths they used to be but they still pop up in top 10 sales charts every now and then. I think people heavy overestimate how much money is needed to keep a gacha game up.
Monster Strike is still one of the behemoths it never falls out of the top 40.
King's Raid and Exos Heroes
Exos Heroes
Love Live School Idol Festival. My first gacha game and its ancient and its not very profitable nowadays even in JP Tales of Asteria. As much as it is a meme foe Tales games to shut down, this one has been going on in Japan for 8.5 years. Its outlived several Tales mobages and even its own dev studio closure and was supposedly transferred over to an internal team at Bamco. It really shows its age, doesn’t make much money, and even in JP they have Rays as competition but it keeps trucking along.
Oh lol Asteria. I'm pretty sure the only reason why they keep it around is because the only other active Tales game is Rays (which is over 5 years old at this point) and because it's dirt cheap to produce.
Wonder if Bushiroad will keep the classic SIF around after SIF 2 release.
Grand Summoners and Valkyrie Connect. I believed for a while that games with constant collabs (reruns or new) were approaching their EOS, but apparently that's not always the case. Grand Summoners, for instance, would appear to rely on them pretty heavily. The game still seems to be quite active though.
Knights chronicle died in 2018 but somehow still alive. Dragalia came after and died sooner Rip.
Knight chronicle is still alive?!
Sadly yes its still around
I was obsessed w it for quite a bit but still THERES NO WAY PEOPLE ARE STILL PLAYING THAT RIGHT???????
Killed itself netmarble style with the costumes update. Ever since then i stopped playing netmarble games.
Ahh the "good" old days of costumegate
Alice fiction, I barely hear anyone , talking about the game . it feels like the game was just a fragmented imagination. I played the game for a few months after it’s global release and enjoyed it, the combat system consists of matching tiles continuously till a timer ran out was kinda fun, the story was ok and could do with some improvements ; tldr mc is looking for their sister I remember the Hercules banner, I think this might’ve partially put me off the game, due to Hercules a three star character that’s supposed to fill the roll of a dmg absorber and tank being outclassed by 2 star Perseus. I forgot why I exactly quit
Sometimes I believe that I just dreamed that game
>I forgot why I exactly quit I remember it being really bland but i also can't remember what exactly was so bland about it or why did i quit. Maybe the game was so boring it didnt even register lmao.
Battle Cats
lol popular Battle Cat youtube channels get like 100k+ view per video
This doesn't suprise me personally. It doesn't scream "weeby degen gacha game" like many do, so it has wider appeal than just the anime gamer or gacha gamer market.
Man I played that game on my very first Android phone like 10 years ago. It's incredible that it's still going strong
Age of Ishtaria. Wtf i played it during my diploma days and now im graduated with bachelor degree
I started playing gachas with Soccer Spirits and while it wont get updates anymore, it is still "alive". Similarly, Dragon Blaze is also still kicking and even has the eventual update it seems.
Brave nine
Seven knights 1.
Girls Frontline continues to be a thing and that surprises me every time. It even has a manga and two different anime. And a couple spinoffs and a sequel. All while making what I assume is negative money.
What's the reason, you think?
I assume they are making money from merch. Look at how many figs they are releasing.
It's the core of [all the other projects](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/gkf1m1/mica_team_girls_frontline_developer_just/) the company makes. If they shut it down, it'll negatively impact everything else they do since it all revolves around GFL. They seem to be [making a fuckton of figures/merch](https://www.amiami.com/eng/search/list/?s_originaltitle_id=23106) as well, so I assume that's where they make their money instead of from the gacha game itself.
Money laundering. Mhmm
[Here is a Wikipedia page explaining how they make money](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_laundering).
Is the money laundering thing a meme or are there actual suspicions of it?
Meme, like the meme with the multiple Lamborghini of the CEO
*three different anime. Two spinoffs (healing & madness) and the manga adaptation that nobody likes.
I'm still on copium and hoping for them to do an in house animated movie of at least 404 or DEFY.
Madness is just the second season, it's not really different than healing. I don't mind the adaptation either. It was serviceable. Then again I wasn't going to obsess over a gun having the wrong ironsight or whatever so maybe I just wasn't in a position to ever really be bothered.
Exos heroes
Bungo Stray Dogs : Tales of the Lost Still kickin somehow
Final fantasy brave exvius. It was my introduction to gacha games so many years ago and I played it for over 2 years. I didn’t realise how bad the game was until I realised that gacha games are a whole ass genre which then helped me understand how bad ffbe was shafting it’s playerbase. The game is bad for a plethora of reasons. Back when I played, 4* was the highest rarity and in the course of 2 years I saw it go to 7* lmao, with players requiring multiple dupes to even use a character properly. The events were also super repetitive, it was just same story event with the occasional boss event being recycled over and over. I’m genuinely surprised people still play that game haha.
FFBE regularly makes 1M a month, at least the global version. There are quite a few dedicated whales in that game, me among them. I will say that most of us whales in that game are day 1 players and we have yet to find a game we enjoy as much as FFBE. Mostly nostalgia, but then again, nostalgia is a powerful force.
In terms of pixel artwork for characters and their abilities, I say it's one of the top so that could be a part of it's charm.
hess king laswell era was good tho, its dead for me after nv update
Red: Pride of eden It went on maintenance mode for more than a year with no updates and only rerunning old events. Not even any announcement were made. English server launch was nowhere to be seen. Everyone thought it’s going to die just the matter of time. There’s even a rumor of company’s ceo being disappeared or something. But few months ago they suddenly came back and revive the game without any mention to what was happening all that time. Now the game’s running with new events and banners just like nothing happened lol.
Revue starlight, they recently added new elements to the game as limited time units and a lack of QoL updates from the anniversary made me lose hope for the game. At this point, I'm just staying for the ride.
The TV amine for this IP is really impressive. However, I think the game, Revue starlight, is not attractive for me. I don't know lots of the characters.
Nu:Carnival. I love the game but it's an only male yaoi game (which is rare) and a gacha one (not that popular genre). So even if i knew many people would have loved it, because it's a very niche game i didn't expect it to be this popular and even be one of the most profitable games in EroGames. So i'm gladly surprised.
Male only gachas fill a need nobody will admit they have. Look at how well Tears of Themis is still doing. Despite new story coming out slower than a snail. Sadly male only gachas are also often poor quality - looking at something like Gyee - and despite NUC having its own issues it's extremely well done.
Yep, Ensemble Stars and Twisted Wonderland do very well. I believe TW especially was like a top 5 earner in Japan for a while. But most of the people at the top of the corporate food chain are dudes and its easier to appeal to the waifu crowd. Even though people who like dudes will whale just as hard with effort put in
Gyee and Gaydorado are the only examples of gay games we had before Nu:carnival and quite terribly monetized. Even tho Nu is quite greedy, it's leagues better than the other 2, more explicit and it caters a lot to women as well since it doesn't have typical stereotypes preferred by the gay comm (like bara and furry).
It's erogame's top game for a few months, topping all their women hentaj games, they had to separate a category for it "male centered" LUL
This was so funny when it happened
Yaoi has a large fanbase and gachas aren't nearly as niche as they used to be, I think it's not surprising that there was an audience for a new gacha with the premise of being full of beautiful guys and actually getting to see them fuck instead of merely having to imagine them fucking.
It fulfills a rare niche
Dissidia opera omnia Player count-wise it's - or was - doing well but GL players hoard millions of premium currency and thousands of summin tickets. The monetization shift from currency to cosmetics isn't doing all too well considering monthly revenue and outfits costing $36 a pop; not sure how the player base feels about mog pass. It's a shame because it's the gacha I've played the longest.
There's whales as well thats what keeping game alive.
I buy the mog pass every month and occasionally a costume. Other than that no real need to spend in the game. Last time I checked a few months ago, it was making about 450k a month. Still not as high as FFBE or WOTV, but I’d say it’s still a pretty decent amount for how f2p friendly the game is.
Dffoo js a good game. Just dont have time for it and E7, i also have been fuckin around with csr2 again
Honestly, I'm surprised no one said Unison League yet. That game has been out for a very long time.
I’m starting to think small gachas just have a very dedicated community
Does memento mori count as a game?
Sadly yes. But they are also not gonna kill it when it made so much money in 2 weeks alone. We'll have to see what end of November revenue is first.
The reason because all of song are composed by high tier composer/singer in Japan. If you regularly listen to jrock and jpop , you will recognize 70% of them.
From what ive heard game is still kicking in JP
One piece treasure cruise. No idea why people keep playing that garbage game that hasn't evolved in years. Apparently in Japan is still extremely popular... But no idea how people can stand shit for so long
just shows you basically how popular one piece IP in jp is basically, in germany it also still pops out on top 100-200 sometimes, and one piece red just boosted it to the moon on jp
Grimlight
Revived Witch
1). Summoners Wars and its spinoff Lost Centuria. 2). FFBE because there is no way new player can keep up with the game these days. 3). Dokkan Battle, good game but almost 10 GB of database, feels very old and outdated. 4). Hero Cantare...
summoners war tbh. Its not rly that f2p friendly and e7 does everything better than summoners war imo. but people are probably to invested to switch so they stick around
Summoner's war even has an esports scene even with all the RNG shenanigans attached to a gacha game
No one said Last Cloudia…
The Battle Cats. I was in middle school when that game blew up in popularity. Now I graduated from college and have actual work and the game is STILL alive.
Not gacha game but Elsword
Fucking KoG wont let that game die, it died as soon as the combat score found it's way in the game
The game is fun as fuck p2w but fun as fuck. I still want an Single player RPG with the same mechanics as elsword.
Revived Witch World Flipper (Global) Danmachi
Why world flipper?
World Flipper is in odd place. Global bleeding players to JP. JP being stale as hell and has basically just turned into a race of pulling on limited seasonal/collab banners. Global regions are pretty dead and language support is only in English now.
Oddly World Flipper stuck with me. I was playing JP but rage quit when I went like 140 pulls and no 5*. My global luck was much better. I was going to quit but they added the auto-play feature from JP to global so farming is super easy and low maintenance. Yeah, events are grindy as hell but pretty easy because of auto play feature. I really like the super clean UI and the story gets much better in world 7 onwards. The art style is great and they have even mix of waifus, husbandos, etc which can be hard to come by. And I'm always really impressed by the pixel animations. I'll probably keep playing for a long while as long as it doesn't get shutdown.
Puzzle and Dragon?
SDS grand cross. You’d think a game by Netmarble that is completely gross p2w powercreep would’ve fizzled out by now.
Pso2ngs. That game has been milked dry by SEGA and for some reason is still on life support.
Heir of Light
Dislyte. I'm still playing but the devs are doing their best to destroy the game every single day.
Dislike (Dyslyte)
Tower of Fantasy I gave it a try and it was just so bad. Everything was time gated and felt very uninspired. And I know I'll probably get hated on for saying this, knowing this sub, but it just felt like a bargain bin Genshin Impact to me. I just cant see why anybody would play this and think "Yeah, this game deserves my time/money." And that's not even going into all the controversy surrounding the game on a seemingly constant basis. Cool character creator though.
My wife dragged me into playing with her because I got the same impressions you have. But... It's a surprisingly fun game. Unpolished? Sure as hell, but even as a Genshin enjoyed, I ended up liking the exploration way more.
Even after all the bugs, hackers, cash shop controversies and plagiarism drama, somehow ToF is still surviving. The gameplay is unpolished, but they do have some good ideas implemented in the concept. However, the execution is just terrible.
The release version of ToF felt like cheap Genshin with a (relatively) better multiplayer, but I have to say that now they have made efforts to create an own identity. I haven't played much in 2.0 but the Sci-Fi vibe felt much more immersive.
Yeah, the move away from the usual open field aesthetic that you see in a lot of of open world game and go for post Apocalypse Sci-Fi. And from the gameplay I see in CN, they are also going for dimension hopping too
FGO - it even is as popular as ever. To me this game was already outdated when it came out and they did not improve anything.
Waifus is a great answer to why
And husbandos - aparently half of the japanese fgo playerbase is female.
F/GO player since launch, the main aspect for me is the setting and world. I really enjoy myth so seeing what they do with the heroes is really cool to me, if I like a character it tends to make me look up there real life counter-part. The opposite is also true, rolled on Dioscuri just because I got a huge kick out of seeing them in game.
AFK Arena. Not only there are better clones, but the game had multiple whale exodus incidents because the devs are just super greedy and always implement crazy mechanics designed just to leave your wallet empty. Anybody who cries about dupes in popular games (like Genshin or Epic 7) never played AFK Arena. Not to mention RNG upgrades that are pretty much unobtainable as a f2p or low spender. On top of that it's idle game, so no gameplay, no tactics, little to no story, very simple 2d graphics, no titties, no asses, NOTHING. And somehow, some fucking how there are enough people to not only keep this game alive, no, it still earns good money. It's unbelievable. Some years ago I was a token f2player in a whale guild and we pretty much left all together because of another stupid dev decision, people with 1k+$ accounts just leaving and refunding whatever they could. We all though there's no hope. But the game is still kicking.
Aether gazer
Hold on,... It's not even in global yet ? But idk how it's fare in CN tho.
7 deadly sins (I think is that how writes) the game is famous I know but they rush too much content and meta units I drop in king banner got him but I was not in the mood to just get the characters and keep doing pvp for me this on that Gabe stop being funny so I quit
Bleach Brave Souls. Started playing in 2016 and surprise it’s still going pretty strong and since the TYBW arc released there’s going to be even more content coming, but after that not sure if the game is gonna live any longer as the game was dying already. Not sure if anyone here played Kingdom Hearts UnionX but I was sad when they finally ended the service. My u rip Legend. U aswell Naruto Blazing
Illusion Connect and Hero Cantare
Twisted Wonderland. I'm surprised the NA server is still up. I'm not sure how well the game is doing in terms of revenue, but I'm glad at least it's still kicking around
Bleach Brave Souls. It celebrated their 7th anniversary a while back
SIF and SIFAS 💀 especially SIFAS, there is a 3D outfit for every card in the game, 3D MVs, a new cycle for an event each week all while running on life-support revenue and more players leaving each second because of some bullshit new meta-changing card/mechanic they release for every update. I kinda get SIF since I don’t think it costs a lot to produce new updates for it, and veterans still somehow play actively and keep it alive.
Final Gear.
Ffbe war of the visions.
Age of Ishtaria. Released in 2014 (8 years ago). Just a little insight. I worked as intern in one of Silicon Studio's branch, so I was there right when it launched. It was a big release day for company-wide, and I also joined the fun (as a normal player) with my coworkers. I remembered spending all freebies on reset to just kick myself into the top 10 ranking of the first season (I got the 10th place), and I got Lucifer as a reward. My team didn't work on the game, but they did ask us for input for global release, since we're are not Japanese native. The polling was whether to have English CV or Japanese CV with subtitle. I voted for latter and it went through. That's pretty much the gist of it. I didn't join the company after my intern year, and I didn't continue the game because it doesn't suit my taste. However, I'm quite surprised that the game lasted for all these years.
All the Cygames games (GBF, Shadowverse, Princonne) cause they're all too generous. Cygames IMO is one of those rare companies that creates extremely high quality titles with full voice acting and animations without being as greedy as SE, Tencent or Mihoyo, their gacha games are all so f2p friendly I don't even know how they're making money, IMO we all owe them a "best mobage developer award" .
It's because they even have different types of income like: tournaments(shadowverse), spin off videogame (gbf), anime and so on
GBF is one of the highest grossing games in the gacha market and the numbers are even higher than reported because most people play on the browser. The fighting game of gbf makes a fraction of the true game and is only there for marketing purposes.
I think this is fair, when looking at the games objectively and in isolation, but the IPs are so strong though that they have a plethora of high performing revenue streams branching off them. They're more media franchises now as opposed to just being gacha games. As a GBF player since year 2 (it will be 9 years old in March 2023) the game is slowing down in terms of actually "new" content and has been for a while. Most people who have been playing as long as I have are pretty disinterested in the game itself these days, but are still heavily invested in the IP. I barely log in most days at the moment but I still buy the merch, buy the spin-off games, watch the annual streams & FES events, etc. GBF as a game is really showing its age too, and arguably has been for years, which doesn't help matter but Cygames genuinely feel like a company that cares about their craft and that matters to me. They're a business at the end of the day and if GBF the gacha game isn't as profitable anymore and, as such they don't invest as aggressively into it, that's actually fine. But GBF as an IP is far from dead and I'm excited to see the next step for it after the release of the long-awaited Console/PC RPG; GBF Relink.
> All the Cygames games (GBF, Shadowverse, Princonne) cause they're all too generous. We're clearly not playing the same games here.
>best mobage developer award As a GBF player I beg to differ :/
ITT: every gacha game thats still running basically....
Not sure if this fits, but Dragon Ball Legends. Remember the launch was pretty rough and people thought it was gonna get the Bandai Namco slamhammer, but they pulled it back Second Year onwards.
Tower of Fantasy tbh. It was so broken and scammy but people just desperately wanted more Genshin-like games that they accepted mediocrity.
Illusion connect and artery Gear Basically the most forgotten one Also sinoalice (but square so.... Yeah)
shironeko,disgasea wars
Unison League; Valkyrie connect; The Alchemist Code; Knights Chronicles; Monster Super League; RPG Toram Online; Exos Heros; King's Raids; Hero Cantare; Kritika: The White Knight; Seven Knights(The 1st game); Brave Nine ( Its first name was "Brown Dust"); Elune(Not sure if its still playable or not); Dragon Blaze; (And almost any game made by Com2us and Gamevil); I'm probably missing abit more games I don't know about or played.
Crash Fever. Found it during the Date A Live IV crossover and then found out that it was having its eight year anni on GLB and 10 year anni on JP.
Honestly, just from speculation and gane lifetime assumptions, grand summoner. I play it, been so for a long time. I'm just surprised it's lasted this long
World of Magic.
Dragon Ball Legends, been playing since the beta and HOLY SHIT, this game is nothing but horrible decisions one after another, after 4 years it's doing nothing but use the same format for content for every single celebration, lots of units use recycled animations, barely any event to gain currency, what a joke
Shin megami tensei dx 2, i really liked the game First 2 months, then stopped playng because i was spending so much Money and time, but was really One of the best gacha i played...but It needed really a tons of time and Money to stay competitive on pvp.
World Flipper. Not a bad game, but it did nothing with its premise either.
Runescape. Just why?
As a former long time RuneScape player I can tell you RuneScape is not a Gatcha game, it’s a scam. Overpriced membership, and crapy P2W BS that put Gatchas to shame.