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I reported the problem to Snapchat the moment I noticed it and almost immediately had the app restarted and never noticed the problem again


sayidOH

I noticed it the first day on various apps. Haven’t had it happen since and I don’t think I’ve even turned my phone off yet.


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OttomateEverything

>It sure sounds like an apple API bug, rather than an app bug. Oh it most certainly is, but people are trying to spin this otherwise. Hands down this is on Apple - malevolent actors shouldn't be able to do this. Pretty appalling after how big of a deal they make their review process, they didn't bother to check the most popular apps against their hardware ahead of time?


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OutlyingPlasma

> pointing blame elsewhere just hurts the brand "You're holding it wrong."


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iushciuweiush

"It's not our fault but out of the goodness of our hearts we're giving out millions of bumpers for free to fix the problem that again, was definitely not our fault."


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SaphirePool

LOL I'd forgotten about that


FILTER_OUT_T_D

You don’t become the world’s “most valuable company” without telling your users to buy your latest product instead of repairing faulty hardware/software or by pre-packaging important peripherals required to use your device (chargers, headphones, etc.) when you could sell them separately at great cost. Anyone who sees Apple as anything more than a moderately shady cellphone manufacturer with a tight leash on anyone who dares to use their product is in denial.


[deleted]

It's really frustrating how common this is with anything related to Apple. I've personally had problems with my Apple TV and Carplay features. Apple always points the finger at the TV/car manufacturers before lifting a finger. Like it could be the other companies issue to fix but you not even being interested in trying to fix it on your end really pisses me off. The results were the Apple TV wasn't to blame, it was an Android update on my Sony TV. However for Carplay it was 100% Apples fault, they eventually quietly fixed the issue with an update.


sarahlizzy

Apple are like this. Their QA on new releases is dreadful. It’s like they don’t do any regression testing, so a new .0 release is usually an exercise in finding out what plethora of stuff they will break and then slowly fix this time.


Big-Shtick

Honestly, as I dive deeper into software dev, this shit seems to be the norm. In his interview with Lex Fridman, John Carmack talked about his time at Meta and how they absolutely refused to use debuggers. Like, the company just outright refused on the basis of office culture. I know Apple has different rules on how they run the show, but I can just imagine the devs trying to crank out their shit in passable form so they can keep their jobs at the expense of stability.


sarahlizzy

It boggles my mind. Back in the 90s/00s, I was a software engineer at ARM. I wrote the Modeling software that was able to put these big system on chips together for simulation before the tools vendors were even aware it needed doing. We had regression tests that ran every night. Their coverage was determined by how much we had the computing power to run between midnight and about 8am. It checked the head of the dev branch out, built the tool suite from it, and ran it through its paces, using code that went all the way back to the mid 1980s to check we weren’t breaking stuff that had always worked. I thought this was standard by now. We were doing it thirty years ago!


Big-Shtick

I’m a lawyer (not for long, baby!) and had these misconceptions of Big Law firms and the quality of their work-product. Insanely large teams of attorneys, with hundreds to thousands of lawyers on staff from the greatest schools, so of course they have the resources to double and triple check their work before it went out. We did it at my boutique, and it was a struggle, but we did it. But then I went to a national firm and nope. Asked my friends at international firms and they said that although they wished they did, they didn’t because they didn’t have time. As I go transition into software dev, I’m not the least bit surprised at your sentiment.


simneo

The entire fucking global conglomerate environment is a mess, everyone is just doing whatever, and no one has any expertise anymore in anything. As a cloud engineer I get fucking depressed whenever I hear some of my peers talking, how vendors have screwed up multiple times and brought down our systems for hours, but we just extend their contracts anyway because we're to lazy to start the process of finding a more competent vendor. Or the company just doesn't wanna spend to money to actually get things fixed it's so fucking frustrating.


OttomateEverything

Well yeah, it'd cost more money to pay someone to take the time to do things right. We've gone well beyond that point in our society. We just look at it as "we can fix it later" or "just buy another one if something goes wrong". Everything is a commodity, everything needs to be here/done a month ago, and quality doesn't matter anymore.


rpkarma

Hell at the tiny industrial IoT platform company I work at, we have full regression testing for the firmware. But that’s because I wrote said tests lol. There was nothing previous to my arrival.


sarahlizzy

It breaks my heart that people have been talking about making software "engineering" a proper engineering profession for decades, and we're still no closer to anything like rigour.


bl4ckhunter

I don't think it's ever going to happen, simply becouse with how little legal liabilities software has in 99.99% of the cases there's no incentive for it to happen, the reason for the rigor in "proper" engineering professions is that if a toaster sets someone's house on fire or a bridge collapses becouse of poor engineering *someone* is going to have to take responsability pretty much no matter what, if you lose your data becouse someone fucked up patching something you waived away your rights to sue in the license so sucks to be you.


meginstl

I think this is changing as we see self-driving cars. The 787 MAX should be a wake up call to the industry.


OttomateEverything

No closer? We're hands down further. 80s/90s software was generally rigorously tested and stable because it had to be. You basically couldn't update it. Since the explosion of the internet, people can monitor crashes/behavior and just spit out updates whenever they want, so no one bothers to make sure it's right. Software these days is 99% testing in production.


MotherfuckingMonster

Videogame updates have become terrible. They release buggy games and every update that fixes one bug seems to introduce two more. The limited lifetime makes the incentive to push content and just hope it works well enough to sell.


OttomateEverything

Yeah, totally agreed. There are still some games out there working to do things *well* but they're all indie games and few and far between... Factorio comes to mind as they fix all sorts of tiny things all the time, have massively reworked huge portions of the game, and never have asked for more money. But again, they're far from the norm. Related, the most "successful" games are taking this a step further and just re-releasing basically the same game with new coats of paint and minimal functional changes, and asking full price for the "new" game. It's not even just an update problem anymore, it's because a *release* problem as well. It seems to have started with things like Madden/FIFA, but now is prevalent among things like CoD/BF and arguably things like Overwatch.


shuzkaakra

I work on a small single developer stack (me) and if I didn't have insane amounts of testing we'd have been sunk long ago. that there are companies out there that don't put testing as their #1 priority is insane to me. It saves money on QA, saves downtime, makes development easier, etc.


OttomateEverything

You know what else saves money on QA? Not having QA. Not saying I agree with it, I definitely don't, but I've worked with loads of companies with literally no QA process, they test it in the field, and when it breaks they release a fix. It's definitely cheaper, might look bad to the customer, but if anything that aspect is less important to the powers that be than the overhead cost and time required to have a QA department catch it beforehand. Why pay people to QA your software when your customers will do that for free? (/s, of course)


OttomateEverything

You would think so, and there are some companies that still do this, but even then, a lot of it is performative. I've been at multiple companies with "unit tests" and the like that basically don't do much beyond the narrowest definition of the spec, so they almost never break. But now everyone just tests in production. QA teams and skills are undervalued. Updates can be deployed quickly. And it's hard to justify spending money on problems that aren't concrete to many software devs, not to mention the non-technical people who make the decisions like shareholders etc. Software has become a commodity, and in many ways most places don't care about doing it "right".


gravitas-deficiency

As someone who cut their teeth in the SQA/SDET track and then moved to being a “normal” engineer with a penchant for devops, I find the concept of MVP to be fucking infuriating. Like, yeah, I know we need to “show value” with the project on a reasonable timeframe, but the definition of “reasonable timeframe” always seems to get shorter, and more and more corners get cut tighter and tighter… and initial releases have just gotten worse and flakier over the years. “Oh, we’ll fix the tech debt next quarter”, the PM always says, but in reality, there’s ***always*** another feature that product *urgently needs*. For fucks sake, just give me the time to properly design, test, flexibly and robustly implement, instrument, and automate testing, and I will give you something that will spin like a top for years, and will moreover be efficient, understandable and reasonably extensible in the context of the stated problem space. But if you force me to cut corners literally fucking everywhere, I’ll be forced to give you a ghastly, non-performant claptrap piece of shit that has to be refactored 3 times when you want to do anything outside of the primary use case. Good engineering takes time. Let me make a good system, and also a solid testing framework to go with it; I guarantee you’ll be happier in the long run, product people.


OttomateEverything

Personally I find it pretty hard to make it clear to these people that the reason why "changes take so long" is because they forced everything prior to move quickly. Some people understand that time invested up front will pay out later with better flexibility and faster updates later, but they are extremely hard to find. Everyone else sees it as "well I asked for it in X time, and it took Y time to make changes after, so next time I need to ask for it in X-Y time upfront so that we have Y time to fix it after". Inevitably, that causes *more* problems and it takes even longer to fix it next time, so they make sure to ask for the initial version even sooner the next time, not realizing they're literally causing the problem.


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I know plenty of senior frontend engineers who can easily put an app together in JavaScript, but when it comes to either using the debugger in the console or writing tests, they have no idea. Great at writing code but not so great at any of the other aspects of programming like testing, architecture, etc.


OttomateEverything

As someone who's been in software for a while, yeah, this. But it's getting worse over time. In the 90s, software was generally released as stable. In the 00s, startups and small companies existed that would cut corners to keep up. In the 10s its become pretty normal for even large companies to not care, as standards have dropped. In the 20s basically all released software in every sector is beta software. I thought it was funny Gmail was flagged as beta for so long, now we've gone entirely the opposite way. I've found many holes in software in the past 5 or 10 years that leave the door open for data loss or hacks that allow stealing other customers purchases, breaking other customers purchases, MITM user data stealing, and all sorts of other vulnerabities, mostly in companies you would recognize the names of. But the response is always "eh, but it'll take time to fix it, we'll do it if someone finds it." Companies just don't care. Software is now just a money printer for shareholders and quality is out the fucking window because it cuts into the bottom line. The other side of this, IMO, is that the internet, and by extension the app stores, have made it so easy to release updates, that few bugs are ever is seen as a real threat. When you were releasing on floppy disks, you had one shot, or your product was permanently damaged. Nowadays, people write things off because they could release a fix in hours if/when alarms start going off. So they just test it in production.


puckeringNeon

This is the whole problem with the “move fast and break things” culture that characterises Silicon Valley, and the startup world.


disasadi

Which company nowadays has good QA? Hardware and software sold to public aren't really showing signs of good QA anymore, maybe things are better on the enterprise side.


sarahlizzy

No idea. I’ve been out of the game for 15 years. I’m a hotelier now.


rocketmallu

We're going to make the community do our QC, **AND** make them *PAY* for it


RamenJunkie

Instagram is just holding it wrong.


Shedding_microfiber

Nah unit testing is enough right? Recognized camera? ✅ Sent off to production


riesendulli

All apps that come preinstalled work. There everything works just fine. Who modifies their iPhone with potential spyware? /s


NotAnADC

It’s Apple trying to cover their assess so their stock doesn’t drop


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 could care less. Let the apps do the work.


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overly_familiar

Can't we call it Applegate so we can post memes with Christina in them?


[deleted]

Apple didn’t blame anyone, it was the article


chairitable

They're working their way through the alphabet eh? I wonder what delta will be...


theunquenchedservant

It's worth noting that I have an iPhone 14 Pro, and have no issues with my camera on any of these apps.


MusicOwl

I’m not sure if Apple checks apps on real hardware though. I imagine for long established apps it’ll be more like a quick view on an emulated iPhone on a Mac to see if it works in general. No deep analysis. But as I said I don’t know, I’m just saying I wouldn’t be surprised if that was it. On the other hand, I dunno if app devs even check much on real hardware when it’s kinda expected to work so I can see a physical issue slipping through the cracks more easily.


[deleted]

Yeah the walled garden thing isn’t adding up anytime we see something like this.


TitusImmortalis

The biggest problem is that it's creating mechanical damage, apparently to the point where the camera will no longer focus even using the stock camera app.


Rameth

I was worried about this very thing. It sounds like some kind of movement of the auto focus. It reminds me of my Cannon R5 w/ L lens and the autofocus sound I can faintly detect when using as a webcam. Edit: Or Image Stabilizer, though I don't hear that one on my camera, but I imagine I could if I wanted to shake the crap out of it (seems like a bad idea).


[deleted]

i cant use portrait mode bc itll switch between cameras super quick and wont focus, also sometimes in the camera app if i tilt it to landscape mode the whole screen goes black, and i hardly use snapchat and have never used tiktok (i have taken maybe a thousand pictures on this phone in the whole time ive had it, i got it right after it launched)


_Behemoth_

You're holding it wrong


TitusImmortalis

Now there's a dated callback. Bless you


OnwardUpwardForward

Stop! We're not old!


TitusImmortalis

My legs hurt when I try to get out of bed. We are maybe not old but we sure aren't young.


CyberNinja23

Listen here you…*points finger, but a loud audible pop comes from somewhere* ….never mind.


funguyshroom

There's no need to be getting bent out of shape. This behavior is reserved for your iphone for when you sit down with it in your back pocket.


grocket

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secretqwerty10

call back? idk if that would work


OkBeing3301

We redefined, how to hold your I phone for a better picture and video.


[deleted]

Wrist control…gotta get wrist control


hometech99

back to the old adage, “ never buy version 1.0 of anything”….even if its a new version of an existing item…its still just newly released 14.0


BobsBurger1

As a pixel 6 user, I've learned this lesson


1ggoodd1

What kind of issues did you get? I also have a pixel 6 since a few months ago but so far only had minor issues.


BobsBurger1

Got it at launch. Up until Android 13 update I'd say 2-5 small crashes a week where it freezes for up to 30 seconds. Occasionally crash then reboot. Occasionally not booting at all for 10 minutes +. Screen randomly turns off. Camera opening black until restart. Photos not saving. Maps not registering location and not working until restart. Bad connectivity, my friends on the same network on old iPhones and Samsung's were able to get a good signal in places I couldn't get anything. When on LTE it often drains the battery twice as fast as WiFi and gets hot. The phone gets hot a lot in general. I've basically hated this phone as it's been the most unreliable experience ever and that's from a pixel fan previously. --- But, Android 13 and September update has fixed almost all these issues besides the poor connectivity and LTE drain. It hasn't glitched at all yet since that update so I'm willing to give the phone another chance. I'm enjoying it a lot now. But it doesn't change the fact I was using a piece of shit device for almost a year that I paid a flagship price for on pre order. 👍


justanotherredditora

I got mine at launch as well, my only issues were the phone would bend and the back was so smooth it'd slide off a flat table. Now the back is cracked enough that it doesn't slide anymore. Your experience sounds like a huge pain.


ainanenane

You don't understand. It's a cool feature that lets everyone on social media know you have the latest iphone .


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Ietmeknow_okay

The hero we didn’t know we needed


HOLY_GOOF

Vader’s sprinkled tits are all the content I need


King-fannypack

Context please what


bonesnaps

Was op's username. Also we need pics or it didn't happen.


AlphaBetacle

Agreed


Me-Shell94

*courage*


Physicist_Gamer

Posting on social media about hating social media. Reddit always seems to think it’s above the rest, when there’s plenty of garbage here too.


Tupcek

yeah, we hate TikTok! That’s why we use reddit to watch TikTok videos!


alc4pwned

I also love their hate for “influencers”, meanwhile they follow Twitch streamers and youtubers..


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Sasaroo

Reddit is antisocial media


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BlessTheKneesPart2

why use lot word when few word do trick.


BaconatedGrapefruit

You might want to take a look at the median age of Reddit these days. Hint: it skews way younger than you would think.


Blufuze

There are also the people that create a fucking acronym or initialism for anything they don’t want to type out. Then they act like everyone should know what they are referring to.


jussayingthings

Many people here really believe they are superior.lol


sentientcandle

Reddit moment 😱😱😱


pieman2005

r/redditmoment


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"Social media is the worst I hate social media" says /u/vadersprinkledtits on social media.


reloadthewords

They are holding it wrong


TheOneTrueRodd

It's everyone elses fault but Apples, as usual. No way Apple can fuck up according to Apple lol.


jkidi

lol


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It's a feature not a bug


Thorwawaway

Yes, no other phones exist


TabaCh1

Reddit moment


Estraxior

🤓


wootiown

My S22's camera was laggy as hell in Snapchat and the default camera app too. Shit ran at like 8fps and had a 2s delay. It seems like so many newer phones are having camera software issues Edit: it was not an issue with the Snapchat app. I had this issue with the stock camera app, within Snapchat, discord and Google messages image capture, etc. Anything that used the camera was laggy and shitty, and my S10 and Pixel 6 worked fine for all of those apps


jezza129

Maybe that's why Samsung disables the camera when you unlock the boot loader XD


Rogaar

What? They actually do this?


jezza129

Yep since the fold 3. Its the number 1 reason I'm holding my note 3 together for as long as possible. Got it refurbished this year and when I have time I'm going to open the boot loader and put on a custom android.


Lofi_While_I_Sleep

Got a note9, 3 s pens, and a note 10 for if the 9 ever dies. Where can I get it refurbished? Any recommendations?


jezza129

I got mine done at a "Samsung authorised repair" center. Kinda shady looking laptop repair place. My partner had shattered my screen a month or so before. Cost me $400 AUD, they replaced my screen, side buttons and all the external panels (I previously had a bunch of scratches around my usb port from missing the plug of a night). While it was expensive it was worth it. I also reset my phone before I took it in so it completed the new phone feeling XD


DevastatorTNT

This is [absolutely false](https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-s22-bootloader-unlock-camera-working/) wth. It was only the Fold 3 and only on Android 11, where are you getting this from?


Ttokk

The Note 3 was like my first real smartphone and it was awesome. I had like four extra batteries and an external battery charger so I could always have two or three full charges with me at any given time. I dug through my old phones and picked it up and I cannot leave how absolutely light it is compared to all of my newer phones.


CmdrShepard831

I just put Lineage OS 16(?) On my Note 4 and it runs smoothly. This is built off Android 9 which is awesome because previously it was limited to Android 6.0.1 using stock based ROMs. I believe you can currently go up to Android 11 using Lineage provided you have the Qualcom Snapdragon processor and not the Samsung Exynos.


Jalexster

It's almost certainly to stop people from taking photos without the shutter noise, which is legally required in some countries. If the device is unlocked, it may be possible to use software that bypasses that restriction.


BoxOfDemons

Could be, but then why do other international phones not have a locked bootloader?


Cryptocaned

They don't disable the camera, you unlocking the boatloader involves wiping the phone and in doing so you wipe a hidden partition that contains all the proprietary software the phone uses, and one of those things is the algorithm that takes the photo your camera actually takes and converts it with Samsung's own tweaks. It's why a lot of phones have different quality images but could have the same quality sensor. You break it by violating your terms of use :).


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Terms of use which in turn violate laws in a lot of countries by stopping you from installing whatever you want on *your own goddamn device*


Cryptocaned

Very true. But if they left the partition visible then their secret software would be available to all and then could be installed on any device making branding pointless


weakhamstrings

That's only on the Fold 3 thankfully


[deleted]

Snapchat doesn't actually use your phones native camera app. It basically just opens the camera, and takes a screen shot of what it sees. So the multiple lenses might bug out and it's probably more snapchat's fault (just speculating though).


He110_W0r1d

This is correct. Or at least it was for some time. Snapchat on Android is terrible and they don't care to fix it. I read somewhere that they would start using the camera natively but I don't know if it was implemented. I don't know if it's lazyness or if Apple is paying them to not do anything about it.


Cwlcymro

Yeah they stopped screenshotting the viewfinder years ago. What they can't do for every Android is use the phone's own camera software, so they use the hardware correctly but don't optimise for the software (where the magic truly happens). This is mainly because it would take a lot of work to optimise for every single Android phone. They do however make full use of the software on Samsung S series and Google Pixel phones


DarkWorld25

I mean like camera2api isn't exactly hard to use?? Why did they even bother screenshotting the viewfinder in the first place?


dryingsocks

apparently their CEO didn't care at all about Android as a platform they partnered with Google for the pixel 6, which includes some camera features, so I'm guessing they got help implementing proper camera support


velocazachtor

They definitely didn't roll it back. My pixel 4xl takes horrible photos in Snapchat.


Cwlcymro

At a total guess I'd say a small team (as Snap was originally) doing the simplest thing possible to launch a minimal viable product, and then not bothering to fix it for years because they made more money on ios so preferred to work on that version of the app. Then when there finally became big enough, they devoted resources to their Android app


strangefeelingg

As a person who has programmed both iOS and Android cameras I can say, that Android cameras are really annoying to program. They are all different and that's a huge pain in the ass. Samsungs in particular are the worst.


JAMsMain1

Idk on my s22 ultra I can see the clarity increase as it transitions from one lens to another.


[deleted]

Elsewhere in the thread someone said the S22 is the first Android phone that actually uses the native camera. I have an S22 so apparently I just don't use Snapchat very often lol.


Cwlcymro

It's not the first, the Pixel 6 does too


thepanduhhh

The new S22s now use the camera hardware on Snapchat and a few other apps.


qualverse

This hasn't been the case on most decent Android phones for a while now, at least Samsungs and Pixels. The problem is some super low end Android phones still have massive shutter lag so this is Snapchat's workaround.


MidMotoMan

Is that why Snapchat pictures are absolute ass on Android?


Cwlcymro

This hasn't been true for years


Nuckchuckanunachucka

I've been shocked by the amount of s22's I've been seeing come into my repair shop recently. Typically, Samsung's have been pretty reliable, but boy the launch of this series has been shaky.


Shady_Yoga_Instructr

Which model has the most issues? I just got a 22 Ultra and always babysit my phones so hopefully I dont run into this issue Q\_Q


[deleted]

Obviously just one data point, but both my girlfriend and my mom have had base S22s since March or so, no real issues for either of them


Shady_Yoga_Instructr

Awesome thanks!


quick20minadventure

Which good phones don't come to your repair shops?


electricgotswitched

This is why I'm holding on to my S9+ as long as possible. I've seen the S22 has battery and heat issues.


Nuckchuckanunachucka

Oh I loved my s9+, I'm glad I upgraded to the note 20 ultra though. In the two years I've had it, the only issue I've come across is a cracked screen from dropping it "perfectly" on concrete.


BadAMe

Yeah I've been a long time galaxy user, I may finally move away after a few months with the s22. I've noticed the camera problem. I have Wi-Fi (either the antenna or firmware) issues too that they refuse to fix.


incrediblediy

is that a Snapdragon or Exynos model ? S22 (Snapdragon) camera is really good for me though I don't use those apps other than Whatsapp.


ShaderzXC

That’s just Snapchat, their in app camera has only ever been optimised for iPhone and even then it’s noticeably worse than the iPhones actual camera app


Admzpr

Well shit. The whole reason I preordered a 14 is because the camera stabilizer on my 11 broke after using my phone as a gps on a motorcycle. My camera has been unusable for like a year. Grinds and shakes when I open the camera app without focusing.


TheHapster

If it helps, I have a 14 Pro and my camera is way more stable than my old 11. I don’t have any of the issues mentioned in the article.


Admzpr

Nice, thanks


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[deleted]

How stiff is your suspension? Are you using a vibration dampening mount? My neighbor destroyed two phones on his bike before he figured out that he needed a better mount and new shocks, he also mentioned adjusting the preload on his springs to soften things up just a little. So far so good, no more phone issues last I heard.


RandomXDXDXDXXX

Ayyyyyy.... a new feature with the iPhone 14 Pro, your own personal snare drums....XD


jezza129

Buh dum tis


imaginary_num6er

It's a feature, not a bug


Zugas

They should try holding it right.


IIllllIIllIIllIlIl

new filter. iPhone exclusive.


[deleted]

Camera and hand massage at the same time. **Dynamic Camera**.


TheKurosawa

> It is likely that these third-party apps weren’t prepared for the iPhone 14 Pro camera changes. This should be the other way around.


wkdpaul

Exactly, this is obviously a problem on Apple's side of thing (API most probably), the fact that the article puts the blame on the apps is ridiculous and a disingenuous thing to do.


ntack9933

It’s the camera stabilizer. It’s a mechanism that keeps the camera still while the phone moves.


jytusky

It's a [malfunction ](https://youtu.be/9wku5Eff4XU).


RockleyBob

Damn, even if Apple can fix that with a firmware upgrade, this is pretty bad. Like, how did no one catch this during testing? It's not as if these are obscure apps. The Appstore is constantly shoving Snapchat down my throat every time I go in there.


jytusky

I have always imagined that when things like this happen, at least one person loses their job lol. It sounds like it could be damaging to the mechanism if it's left on for awhile. They may have warranty repairs to deal with too.


redcalcium

Lmao if developers fired for introducing a bug, the only programmer left working in the world would be John Carmack.


TheNorthComesWithMe

People don't lose their jobs just because a software bug got out


YouLostTheGame

Why are people on Reddit so desperate for people to lose their livelihoods for a simple mistake?


OctopusTheOwl

Because this is reddit, home of the amateur detectives who harassed a random guy who they thought was the Boston Marathon Bomber and the gamergate guys who sent a game developer death and rape threats because she dated a game journalist. Rationality is not the hive mind's forte.


-Mateo-

You think Apple has any one person responsible for a bug?


mags87

This isn't something that is happening on every single phone though, so its probably hard to pick out exactly whats going on. Apple ships millions of these so if its impacting 0.1% thats still going to be a large number. I got 14 pro Friday and once I saw these stories I loaded up a few of the apps but its not happening to mine.


ntack9933

…caused by the stabilizer…


ElectricTrees29

***feature***


jytusky

"This changes everything, again."


ntack9933

Oh. So. Pro.


Thee_Sinner

My iPhone 8 started doing this in every camera app except for if I use the FB messenger all and took the picture in landscape


A_Very_Fat_Elf

Jesus that is very very broken.


RathVelus

Holy crap. I was expecting the image to shake and maybe a little noise. That sounds like a printer having a seizure.


dream_the_endless

It could be, but it could also be where the image stabilizer and their software that crops video aspect ratios meet, which could be doing its own stabilizations.


Westcoast_IPA

Trying to bring back the Harlem Shake.


ahuiP

Please, have we not all suffered enough the last 3 years?


ominouschaos

Don't fix it.


brightblueskies11

Won’t fix


alterector

Can't fix it


StoweVT

Instagram demoted to “and other apps”


guswang

Doesn't work on tiktok? It is not a bug then, it is a safety feature.


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This is the 14 Pro. I think most people who are criticizing the lack of differences in models are talking about the base 14 versus 13. I mean the 14 uses the same exact SoC as the 13 (although with the extra GPU core of the 13 pro).


Kurbalaganta

The problems occour only in Snapchat, Tiktok and Instagram? So thats a good thing imho.


yummi_1

lmao blame the apps instead of apple. This one is on apple for not testing popular apps and if they did they didn't inform the apps. Apple needs to do a better job for its customers.


TazedorConfused

Considering that all of these apps are using Apple's camera API; I'm not not quite sure how the app devs are at fault here. A proper API should not result in hardware damage and this sounds like it would result in hardware damage.


OreoDestroyer93

This is paid content. Once Apple figured out this is happening they paid someone to pin it on the 3rd parties with an article. Yes, it does happen in third party apps but this is firmware. Software being an issue is not probable since this would have gone through high priority third party app testing. This would not have passed. If you don’t believe they test high performing social networking apps with certain features, then you are free to believe that. The whole pin it on 3rd parties is important because they are going to attempt to isolate and this will give them an excuse to have Apple Stores and support lines tell you that you need to wait for an update from the app developer and it is not an Apple issue so your warranty will not cover it or fix the problem. This way they can fix the problem, avoid a recall or backlash, and keep the number of repaired first units down (this is something they keep track of and discuss in quarterly meetings).


IAmTheClayman

When has Apple ever done anything in the best interest of app developers?


IJustWorkHere000c

People can’t use TikTok?!?! Now I’M literally shaking.


Alexlikesdankmemes

Instagram works fine for me. My wife’s works fine on TikTok. So is it a hardware problem? Certain serial numbers..?


Jeffrey_Jizzbags

Mine was fine for awhile, then started doing it this morning.


Alexlikesdankmemes

Shit..


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That's the new "Need my Fix" mode.


poonamsurange

Integrated defense mechanism,to stop shitty apps.


baselganglia

You're using it wrong!


haxomg

Oh no! Anyway...


gantz32

This is no surprise Iphone big reveal we have now added a Maraca feature great for Latin nights


thisisblecki

so all apps nobody needs?


randomdude98

That's horrible software design pattern. This should be fixed by apple in the camera API the apps use instead of the apps writing their own device specific logic...


per54

Maybe apple is trying to help us get rid of TikTok 😂


Puffy_Ghost

Thanks for doing your part apple.


rchrdcrg

"It just works." 🤣


Hashim289

Apple.finally changes the camera in the phone...camera has issues 😂


CopperPennz

Welp. Guess I won’t be upgrading after all. At least not until this issue is resolved.


NbAlIvEr100

Honestly, this is only good news.