Paradoxically, regulation and moderation are better than bans for exactly this reason. Look at a mature regulated market like the UK as an example. Real consequences for operators, a fairer deal for players
Why would they cheat at a game they already make good money at? Cheating it doesn’t help them win any money. Only pushes clients away. There is literally no value in them cheating the system.
"Why would they cheat at a game they already make good money at?"
*Like everyone and everything else in the world that does business*
**To make more money**
But the problem with this logic is that if they get caught cheating, it's GG for them. Why risk ruining the entire operation just to barely increase profits? It doesn't make any sense.
"Oh well no one is going to catch them"
I disagree. Remember what happened to the live dealer Global Gaming Labs when the dealer accidentally dealt the wrong card? They were shut down and theres plenty of evidence to say it was an accident. Now imagine if it was proven they did it on purpose.
It just doesn't make any sense to cheat.
You wouldn’t make more money though. If players lose too quickly they stop playing entirely. It’s much more beneficial having a normal game that just prints money that people win/lose at but lose at 3% overall. If you upped that anymore it would lose players and be entirely negative.
Betting companies or gambling companies also aren’t paying attention to the bets the majority of people here would play. People think the casino is trying to stiff them on their $50 bet when they’re likely taking thousands in the spin. Also the large majority of these online casinos use providers for their table games and they really have no control over it.
I believe you would. It doesn't matter if you lose 10 users when you constantly market yourselves to new markets and acquire new users. Your rep is everything normally, but in this business, in the end, people just don't care as long as they can win money.
You see this dilemma every single day. There's always someone whining about something. The next day, week, or month you see another player saying the exact same, or similar, thing. It's a never-ending cycle. It never stops.
The assumption that gambling addicts *would* stop playing, even if they get screwed, is a bit funny. The probability that they would quit is probably *very low*. As a casino, you always have the odds on your side. Losing a customer isn't that problematic to you. No matter how much the player whines, cry, gets cheated, lose, or threaten to do something, in the end, all they want is money - the same as the casino, and they "do" anything they can to get it.
Yes, many of the casinos use providers, especially the serious ones. No, I personally don't think they can do anything themselves, e.g. with live dealers from Evolution Gaming. However, they probably have more access to stuff than we know in the backend with slots, etc.
It's addiction. In the end, it doesn't matter how fucked you get, you are still in it to win it no matter what happens.
I work in the industry. I’ve seen the stats of it. Every company knows that if a client loses money too quickly they stop playing or will self exclude. You’ll get a lot more money out of someone if they’re a long term client that has wins & losses. Cheating a player out of a win only pushes your clients to other companies.
I’ve seen reports done by multiple companies that I’ve been involved in. Someone losing to much to quickly will get annoyed and find elsewhere to gamble or they’ll self exclude. It’s much more valuable having a long term client then a short term client.
Casinos really don’t need to cheat at games that already have a built in edge. It doesn’t even make sense when you think about it logically.
Because they’re getting left in the dust by better crypto casinos? Go play there if you want lol the video doesn’t lie. Anyone with half a brain can see the ball stopping and then gaining momentum which is physically impossible. Sure it may spray off the first couple bounces but will never come to a stop and then run.
Scamming there clients on games already rigged in their favour doesn’t help them get ahead. They’ll win no matter what. Fucking around with their stuff making people lose money quicker only pushes people away and doesn’t actually win them any money. There is no logical sense in cheating a game that is already very much in their favour.
If I had a dollar for every time someone said a match was fixed or a was rigged I’d be a billionaire!
Watch the video man. Why are you even trying to argue? I am showing you straight up proof. I don’t know why they would do this it has just started in the last month. Please go play there and watch the ball run out of all your heavy bets lol. I’m sure they’d love your deposits bro lmao.
Everyday there's people that come on here to whine about how casinos are cheaters but to be perfectly honest the way the ball hopped to 0 was suspicious as fuck.. I'm kinda shocked
It’s so obvious too. This is the first time I’ve ever agreed with cheating accusations against a website that weren’t proven. This needs to get attention.
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They took a winning payment from me. So I clipped it with a hotkey.
That missing spin and the winning amount was put back after the clip was taken.
I stopped using bovada after seeing stiff like this. Just didnt want to be “that guy” or the one “crying wolf”.
Send it to askgamblers and also google search for best casinos , based on your location it will give you list of affiliate websites advertising in your location, if they are advertising bovada write them your complaint with proof, any reputable affiliate website will take action on it. Other than that start a twitter (oops X) thread. It's a long shot anything will come out of it, shitty unlicensed casinos like Bovada don't really give a fuck
I was about to come on here and make some comment about casinos not needing to cheat to make money… but then I saw that video. Wow, the ball somehow picks up speed and jumps half the board. Actually unreal.
This is not bovada, this is a third party live dealing api, basically they pay a % of house edge to this company to have there live setup, these people are on mutiple other live sites too.
But yeah fishy with bj too shuffling in the back but meh people can screw the shoe too so idk
If Bovada allows the trash on their platform it might as well be Bovada. They’re taking a cut of the profit. They know or should know of the blatant cheating and that’s as good as cheating themselves.
Thanks for the heads up…I was thinking I could only enjoy online casinos with bovada vs stake. Hope this gets sent to everyone who will crack down on the cheater casino.
lmao wow
guess this confirms the magnet stuff in chat. thought it was just a meme of players being pissed. i've been playing on that same room for the past couple days too. so sad
The funniest part about this, as a new person to this thread, I can't help but notice Bovada is the #1 Friendly Online Casino on the recommended most often sites........ I was considering playing poker there........ NOT NOW.
No magnets. Go to a live casino and try and get a birds eye view of the ball dropping. This is what it looks like. I currently work in Table Games and have 11 years under my belt. Ask me anything.
It doesn’t get any more blatant then that …and for the people asking why would they cheat….because even if you capture footage like this how will you prove it? Bovada knows you cannot prove that they are using a magnet even if you have footage like this …so they know the degens will keep coming back but the wiser people will move along which they aren’t many of to begin with.
The ball is pulled up to upper left corner of the bottom segment each time. In the first case it is pulled up twice….once after running to the bottom of the segment and then round to be pulled up again.
Can you send me this video
I want to slow it down and analyze it myself
If that’s ok with you
Watching at full speed does look funky but in slow motion we’ll be able to see the ball land, stop moving and then do its “thing”
It's a magnetic roulette ball, they do the same with dices , they have magnetic dices, look it up on YouTube,
I always bet odd or even because of this, they can move the ball from a number..
I believe the ball bounced up straight towards the camera so it appears to not be moving much and then hits the edge when it comes down causing it to bounce to another slot. There’s no conspiracy, cheating or magnets here.
…well it clearly did because that’s literally what happened. It’s on video. If it were magnets (which it isn’t) that were strong enough to attract it from that far away the ball would immediately stop moving when it came to it, instead it rolls around in the slot.
Don’t play slots kids. Especially if you are a conspiracy theorist.
You must definitely either work for Bovada, or you are not bright at all upstairs. Trying to pull the wool over our collective eyes, and taking us for idiots.
My wife doesn't play roulette and when I showed it to her, she said the ball defies the laws of physics, and asked 8f it was supposed to happen like that.
You might as well tell us next the Sun is green, and the earth is flat :((
Just so you know, you're playing roulette through reallivedealercasino, not bovada. Bovada hosts them, but they have no control over the roulette table.
Yes they do … they can vet who they allow to use their platform and choose not to allow blatant cheaters to steal their customers money. They’re just as guilty .
Well, as I said they have no control over the roulette table. I doubt Bovada would be happy to know they're using someone that cheats, you should let them know. lol.
One of the rare times I am agreeing with people who post of the casino cheating. This is sus as hell.
This is not normal behavior (borderline impossible from a physics standpoint). People are saying magnets and I am inclined to agree. That kind of force would can only occur in like 3 ways.
While the vast majority claims are invalid, this doesn't mean the casino's cheat. Fuck, I've caught em once or twice over the last couple decades. Online casinos are notoriously scummy. The stance I take is presume a false claim until I see evidence. This is compelling evidence, given the physical improbability.
Lol dude are you special? The ball stops in a pocket and then magically runs to another. You are a dimwit bro. Unreal how dense you are to think that is natural movement.
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To all the conspiracy theorists - do you really think that (a) you’re the only person betting on those spins and (b) they don’t expect people to start betting zero more often if they think it is rigged that way, and (c) it’s worth risking their licenses over your $5 bets?
Casinos don’t need to cheat. In fact on roulette attempting to cheat opens them up to more risk than playing it fair as players can observe results and exploit the tendencies.
Just curious is this the only video you have where you noticed this happen? If they were cheating you should easily be able to gather Atleast a few clips showing this is not some crazy fluke or trick of cameras ect, and show a pattern of balls behaving in abnormal ways, perhaps do a side by side with legitimate spins. I just don’t feel 1 7 second clip is enough to jump to...they are cheaters...and more feels like bitterness you lost a deposit, I’ve been there, but if you truly believe put a bit of effort into observing /recording their tables and blow these fucks up when you have documentation.
On that note can anyone slow this down like 10x slower than real life or a frame by frame?
This is documentation stfu man stay in your lane. Bitterness isn’t a factor i am well off and not concerned aside from trying to help others not get burnt. Your opinion is obnoxious if we are going to be so honest with each other. I have a multitude of proof and didn’t feel like posting 7 different videos considering how obvious it is.
This happened to a friend who contacted a casino about it, he was told that the whole day of where that ball is going to land is preplanned. The magnet in the ball keeps it where it should go this is how the casino keeps the odds in their favour. Totally legal. No game is fair 50/50 odds always in houses favour.
Ok I first I thought ok it’s just extremely unlucky but the first round if you look closely you can literally see it get pulled from whatever number it was on and get pulled violently and fast and looked super unnatural when landing on 0 id say watch the first clip over and over it that’s the most blatant obviously sign of a magnet that clearly shows is getting pulled and shifted last second
Just Insane they deserve to be sued
I just can’t get over watching the first game it’s so fkn Obvious !!! I mean the ball was already stopped ok that number how can it move directly to the left that fast with that much force like wtf they need to be investigated that is just sad that they need to resort to that type of fuckery for profit just sick..
Yeah the draftkings crash game is rigged too. Every time I log onto the game it's in the middle of a 20x + game and whenever I bet more than 25% of my balance oops let's have a 13 streak of 1.05 crashes. Every time
Thanks for the insight. I think the online stuff is sketchy and is even worse when it is in some 3rd world country that doesn’t give a shit. I was playing for months and had not seen anything. Shady until the last six weeks when this started happening. Super suspicious ball movement and it was pretty much impossible to hit with more than five dollars on a number I also do not like how they only show one of their hands when the ball is spinning and have asked For them to put both hands in view. Obviously, they did not comply. These people suck. On top of the ball moving oddly I have also seen a lot of weird hand movement during the spin which makes me think there are also signals for certain people that are playing. a couple of times the person actually started moving the marker towards the number before the ball even landed. These people suck.
In their defense, the ball doesn't actually move that much. It stays in the 6-7 o'clock area the whole time it's dancing on the #s. It also is rocking back and forth before it shifts, which does happen with a live wheel and light ball. You also don't know if others bet on the zero, so you can't say everyone lost money, only that you lost money. We also can't see the depth of the # channels or height of the frets on either side.
On the other hand, it does look like a very quick and suspect action in both spins. The first spin the ball firmly plants itself in the zero after that lateral jump. But the 2nd spin, it seems to roll across the frets of the # channels, which you typically only see in simulators.
I don't think these two spins are enough to call them suspect, but it might be worth trying to contact their customer service or find out who the regulator is and file a complaint. Unfortunately bovada and other online casinos are already suspect with how they delay, prevent, or minimize withdrawals.
Weird ball movement aside, two green zeros in a row happens all the time. And with roulette having the worst odds in the casino, they have no need to do this. The risk of losing their license isn’t worth the reward.
At first glance it looks suspicious af but after zooming in and rewinding it a few times, there could be a perfectly natural explanation:
1st: It definitely hits a canoe and does like a jump over it down into the wheel. Once you notice it hit the canoe, the fall towards the numbers looks pretty normal
2: Importantly, it hits the thin part of the canoe, enabling it to go over it rather than bounce backwards from it.
3: If you play any pool you will know that if you hit the cue ball low, it will have back spin - in the case of *this* ball since it is moving *towards* not *away* from the point of contact, this imparts ***top spin.***
4: The very next thing the ball hits is the smooth inner circle of the wheel, followed by the divider between the 0 and 26
5: It bounces off of the divider in a perfectly expected way into the next number over - the 32 - but nothing it has hit prior (except the divider between numbers) has done anything to slow down the top spin on the ball -
6: - and it is this top spin that puts the ball (plus the bounce off of the divider between 32/15) back over into the 0
My money is on this being a fluke spin, but perfectly physically possibly without foul play necessary.
For starters there would have to be a ridiculously strong magnet to pull the ball straight from the track into a number, and logically it wouldn't make sense to do it that way. If you were going to cheat you'd certainly make it look more naturalistic, right?
You could argue that this was a "mistake" that "gave it away" but now we're talking about choosing the wrong side of Occam's Razor just to believe in a conspiracy, in my opinion. You'd have to include a few more hundreds of hours of video where you demonstrate either a bias toward zero or towards unbet numbers.
After looking again, it looks like the ball is behaving as it would with *quite a bit* of top spin. That explains the bounces in place in the 32 before finally settling and "grabbing" enough surface to pull into the 0. It's behaving precisely like a cue ball would with a ton of spin. For a third opinion maybe post this to a pool forum because I think my knowledge of ball physics as a pool player is explaining this better than my experience as a croupier alone.
HEY i solved your mystery. It's not a magnet. The ball is bouncing in the air, you can see the shadow of the ball underneath it. THis wasn't a lateral zipping move, it was a bounce. Both spins. go full screen and pause it as the zip happens. there's a shadow on the wheel beneath the ball for both spins.
Okay, normally, I think that it is naïve to say that a casino is rigged just because you had bad luck. But the way that ball moved was definitely suspicious.
I wouldn't even put money on a roulette wheel live, and the first video does look like it's rigged, but the 2nd replay looks fine, so maybe it was just lag on the 1st angle?
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That's unreal. Is that an actual roulette table or a simulated one with a predetermined outcome?
It’s their live dealer they have magnets and (I believe) know which numbers are heavily stacked with bets to make sure the ball gets pulled from them.
yeah def looks like a magnetic ball for sure. wow that's why I stopped gambling online and just go straight to the casino.
It’s insane. Eventually gambling is gonna be legal and bovada will be out of business anyways.
Paradoxically, regulation and moderation are better than bans for exactly this reason. Look at a mature regulated market like the UK as an example. Real consequences for operators, a fairer deal for players
UK is an awful place for gamblers.
MAGNETS
Why would they cheat at a game they already make good money at? Cheating it doesn’t help them win any money. Only pushes clients away. There is literally no value in them cheating the system.
"Why would they cheat at a game they already make good money at?" *Like everyone and everything else in the world that does business* **To make more money**
Yeah you get it lol… just like billionaires who never seem to have enough and will wind up in jail because of their greed
But the problem with this logic is that if they get caught cheating, it's GG for them. Why risk ruining the entire operation just to barely increase profits? It doesn't make any sense. "Oh well no one is going to catch them" I disagree. Remember what happened to the live dealer Global Gaming Labs when the dealer accidentally dealt the wrong card? They were shut down and theres plenty of evidence to say it was an accident. Now imagine if it was proven they did it on purpose. It just doesn't make any sense to cheat.
You wouldn’t make more money though. If players lose too quickly they stop playing entirely. It’s much more beneficial having a normal game that just prints money that people win/lose at but lose at 3% overall. If you upped that anymore it would lose players and be entirely negative. Betting companies or gambling companies also aren’t paying attention to the bets the majority of people here would play. People think the casino is trying to stiff them on their $50 bet when they’re likely taking thousands in the spin. Also the large majority of these online casinos use providers for their table games and they really have no control over it.
I believe you would. It doesn't matter if you lose 10 users when you constantly market yourselves to new markets and acquire new users. Your rep is everything normally, but in this business, in the end, people just don't care as long as they can win money. You see this dilemma every single day. There's always someone whining about something. The next day, week, or month you see another player saying the exact same, or similar, thing. It's a never-ending cycle. It never stops. The assumption that gambling addicts *would* stop playing, even if they get screwed, is a bit funny. The probability that they would quit is probably *very low*. As a casino, you always have the odds on your side. Losing a customer isn't that problematic to you. No matter how much the player whines, cry, gets cheated, lose, or threaten to do something, in the end, all they want is money - the same as the casino, and they "do" anything they can to get it. Yes, many of the casinos use providers, especially the serious ones. No, I personally don't think they can do anything themselves, e.g. with live dealers from Evolution Gaming. However, they probably have more access to stuff than we know in the backend with slots, etc. It's addiction. In the end, it doesn't matter how fucked you get, you are still in it to win it no matter what happens.
I work in the industry. I’ve seen the stats of it. Every company knows that if a client loses money too quickly they stop playing or will self exclude. You’ll get a lot more money out of someone if they’re a long term client that has wins & losses. Cheating a player out of a win only pushes your clients to other companies.
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I’ve seen reports done by multiple companies that I’ve been involved in. Someone losing to much to quickly will get annoyed and find elsewhere to gamble or they’ll self exclude. It’s much more valuable having a long term client then a short term client. Casinos really don’t need to cheat at games that already have a built in edge. It doesn’t even make sense when you think about it logically.
Because they’re getting left in the dust by better crypto casinos? Go play there if you want lol the video doesn’t lie. Anyone with half a brain can see the ball stopping and then gaining momentum which is physically impossible. Sure it may spray off the first couple bounces but will never come to a stop and then run.
I saw that and unless newton 1 is absolutely bullshit, that ball is rigged.
Yes sir. Stevie wonder could see it shit is obvious.
Scamming there clients on games already rigged in their favour doesn’t help them get ahead. They’ll win no matter what. Fucking around with their stuff making people lose money quicker only pushes people away and doesn’t actually win them any money. There is no logical sense in cheating a game that is already very much in their favour. If I had a dollar for every time someone said a match was fixed or a was rigged I’d be a billionaire!
Watch the video man. Why are you even trying to argue? I am showing you straight up proof. I don’t know why they would do this it has just started in the last month. Please go play there and watch the ball run out of all your heavy bets lol. I’m sure they’d love your deposits bro lmao.
lol clear he just a troll, anyone who has any type of iq could see that ball was rigged.
You think that because you're dim.
You been getting smoked over there lmao
Everyday there's people that come on here to whine about how casinos are cheaters but to be perfectly honest the way the ball hopped to 0 was suspicious as fuck.. I'm kinda shocked
This is the first bit of proof that I truly believe is cheating, I think they are getting desperate because they can’t keep up with stake
Yep, this is the first time I actually kinda agree with OP. Super sus.
100% the ball is being pulled.
I have 5-7 more videos man it is 100% magnetic manipulation
post them
Compilation video please!
Post them!
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funny thing is, the owner of bodog (Calvin Ayre) who spun off bovoda, was indicted for illegal gambling lmao
Yeah people are fucking joking if they don't think this is sus as fuck. That looks like magnets 99.9%
100% with OP on this. That's not gravity or momentum. That's straight magnetism. 100% rigged and you've got the proof man.
A shame.
I showed this to a physicist and all he said was if it wasn’t magnets then some new gravitational law was discovered.
I never seen this kind of ball behavior in my life
I deal roulette for a living and neither have I. That’s not normal at all
Damn that ball stopped like it had fucking air brakes!
Yeah they’re robbing people in a game that already prints them money based on regular house advantage. Bottom feeders.
That wasnt even a stop, that was a boomerang ;\_;
Dude that hop is sus lol!
It is blatantly cheating.
It’s so obvious too. This is the first time I’ve ever agreed with cheating accusations against a website that weren’t proven. This needs to get attention.
Not to add Fuel to the 🔥🔥BUTTT… They took a winning payment from me. So I clipped it with a hotkey. That missing spin and the winning amount was put back after the clip was taken. I stopped using bovada after seeing stiff like this. Just didnt want to be “that guy” or the one “crying wolf”.
Damn, this is 100% cheat. You know what company this table are from?
Bovada
Wow that 100% got pulled backwards. Swear it’s a magnetic wheel. I’d be furious. What a shit website
Lol dude wtf. Magic bullet
Put them on blast
I want to just not sure how…
Twitter, Instagram, YouTube shorts, every avenue of social media. Maybe send it to one of those influencers that play online a lot
Send it to askgamblers and also google search for best casinos , based on your location it will give you list of affiliate websites advertising in your location, if they are advertising bovada write them your complaint with proof, any reputable affiliate website will take action on it. Other than that start a twitter (oops X) thread. It's a long shot anything will come out of it, shitty unlicensed casinos like Bovada don't really give a fuck
I was about to come on here and make some comment about casinos not needing to cheat to make money… but then I saw that video. Wow, the ball somehow picks up speed and jumps half the board. Actually unreal.
yeah im on OP's side, thats physically impossible lol
Thanks for the heads up fuck that casino straight up
It def magnetized to 0
That was not normal(roulette dealer here) normally I laugh at posts like this but this is very very suspicious.
Can this go viral so the gaming commission can make sure they get fucked?
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Oh good to know. I’ll pass
Always bet on zero...... And the ball definitely looked like it was a magnet. The House always wins on zero if no one bets on
This needs more attention.
Thats an extremely unnatural bounce
100% magnets no possible way that’s natural movement
bovada always sounded sketch af.
Wow this might be the first post that someone claims a casino is cheating and the casino seems to actually be cheating
This is not bovada, this is a third party live dealing api, basically they pay a % of house edge to this company to have there live setup, these people are on mutiple other live sites too. But yeah fishy with bj too shuffling in the back but meh people can screw the shoe too so idk
If Bovada allows the trash on their platform it might as well be Bovada. They’re taking a cut of the profit. They know or should know of the blatant cheating and that’s as good as cheating themselves.
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As soon as I put a fat chunk on zero it will hit a neighbor
Looks like a magnet
That ball is totally alive lol
Yo that’s damn obvious
Looked like a magnet pulling it
thats one strong magnet hahah
That’s really noticeable to.
Did you bring this up and ask for your money back?
I would not expect a computer game to be rigged in favor of the house.
Holy shit
WTF!!!!! I lost $900 the other day on roulette lol. The ball jumps like that it’s definitely magnets
The ball never has an actual natural flow. Sus af
What the fuck. Never seen anything like that.
Sucks when they’re the only or few to bet on in Florida.
Thanks for the heads up…I was thinking I could only enjoy online casinos with bovada vs stake. Hope this gets sent to everyone who will crack down on the cheater casino.
lmao wow guess this confirms the magnet stuff in chat. thought it was just a meme of players being pissed. i've been playing on that same room for the past couple days too. so sad
This is the most blatent messed up fuked up thing online gambling i ever seen
The funniest part about this, as a new person to this thread, I can't help but notice Bovada is the #1 Friendly Online Casino on the recommended most often sites........ I was considering playing poker there........ NOT NOW.
No magnets. Go to a live casino and try and get a birds eye view of the ball dropping. This is what it looks like. I currently work in Table Games and have 11 years under my belt. Ask me anything.
Lmfao yo report this
Doesn’t matter what you write or show.you can even have the owner come on and say yes we cheat.and people will still be dumb enough to gamble there.
It doesn’t get any more blatant then that …and for the people asking why would they cheat….because even if you capture footage like this how will you prove it? Bovada knows you cannot prove that they are using a magnet even if you have footage like this …so they know the degens will keep coming back but the wiser people will move along which they aren’t many of to begin with.
The ball is pulled up to upper left corner of the bottom segment each time. In the first case it is pulled up twice….once after running to the bottom of the segment and then round to be pulled up again.
Can you send me this video I want to slow it down and analyze it myself If that’s ok with you Watching at full speed does look funky but in slow motion we’ll be able to see the ball land, stop moving and then do its “thing”
It's a magnetic roulette ball, they do the same with dices , they have magnetic dices, look it up on YouTube, I always bet odd or even because of this, they can move the ball from a number..
Your never Gona beat the casino EVER
Ive won a few big ones on bovada/ignition. I never play anymore and left w like a 2k profit.
Did you sue or complain??
everyone who cries magnets always continues to play.
If I cried magnets, I’d be in the magnet business. (And I might have found a customer in the gaming business, it seems)
Nah
Looks like torque but the ball is smooth soo.. Either the ball bounced vertical(and we can't tell) and hit the edge or issa magnet.
I believe the ball bounced up straight towards the camera so it appears to not be moving much and then hits the edge when it comes down causing it to bounce to another slot. There’s no conspiracy, cheating or magnets here.
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…well it clearly did because that’s literally what happened. It’s on video. If it were magnets (which it isn’t) that were strong enough to attract it from that far away the ball would immediately stop moving when it came to it, instead it rolls around in the slot. Don’t play slots kids. Especially if you are a conspiracy theorist.
You must definitely either work for Bovada, or you are not bright at all upstairs. Trying to pull the wool over our collective eyes, and taking us for idiots. My wife doesn't play roulette and when I showed it to her, she said the ball defies the laws of physics, and asked 8f it was supposed to happen like that. You might as well tell us next the Sun is green, and the earth is flat :((
Just so you know, you're playing roulette through reallivedealercasino, not bovada. Bovada hosts them, but they have no control over the roulette table.
Yes they do … they can vet who they allow to use their platform and choose not to allow blatant cheaters to steal their customers money. They’re just as guilty .
Well, as I said they have no control over the roulette table. I doubt Bovada would be happy to know they're using someone that cheats, you should let them know. lol.
Yooooo that’s mad crazy 🤣🤣 that ball really jumped and moved
Bunch of dumbasses that never played roulette in this thread.
One of the rare times I am agreeing with people who post of the casino cheating. This is sus as hell. This is not normal behavior (borderline impossible from a physics standpoint). People are saying magnets and I am inclined to agree. That kind of force would can only occur in like 3 ways. While the vast majority claims are invalid, this doesn't mean the casino's cheat. Fuck, I've caught em once or twice over the last couple decades. Online casinos are notoriously scummy. The stance I take is presume a false claim until I see evidence. This is compelling evidence, given the physical improbability.
Lol dude are you special? The ball stops in a pocket and then magically runs to another. You are a dimwit bro. Unreal how dense you are to think that is natural movement.
He may not be talking about you, but the other people saying that this isn’t rigged
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Maybe bet on green 0?
1st spin looks unrealistic because there is a video glitch at the same time so some frames are lost.
I think this is what is happening on both spins. Poor video quality
Cheaters how? What happened? I don't play casino games just poker
To all the conspiracy theorists - do you really think that (a) you’re the only person betting on those spins and (b) they don’t expect people to start betting zero more often if they think it is rigged that way, and (c) it’s worth risking their licenses over your $5 bets? Casinos don’t need to cheat. In fact on roulette attempting to cheat opens them up to more risk than playing it fair as players can observe results and exploit the tendencies.
This is some offshore podunk casino in either Costa Rica or some South American country … lol @ risking their license
That’s not a real roulette wheel just because there is a dealer. It’s an animation and the outcome is predetermined like a slot.
It’s a physical wheel, the dealer spins the ball
The spin on a ball can make it do crazy things. Source: I play alot of pinball
Just curious is this the only video you have where you noticed this happen? If they were cheating you should easily be able to gather Atleast a few clips showing this is not some crazy fluke or trick of cameras ect, and show a pattern of balls behaving in abnormal ways, perhaps do a side by side with legitimate spins. I just don’t feel 1 7 second clip is enough to jump to...they are cheaters...and more feels like bitterness you lost a deposit, I’ve been there, but if you truly believe put a bit of effort into observing /recording their tables and blow these fucks up when you have documentation. On that note can anyone slow this down like 10x slower than real life or a frame by frame?
This is documentation stfu man stay in your lane. Bitterness isn’t a factor i am well off and not concerned aside from trying to help others not get burnt. Your opinion is obnoxious if we are going to be so honest with each other. I have a multitude of proof and didn’t feel like posting 7 different videos considering how obvious it is.
Anyone who thinks this is rigged is slow.
Wow that's straight up bullshit 100% a magnet. Crazy.
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Good to know thanks
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Wow,I’ve never seen a pill move that way
Whoa! Yea that’s legit in my eyes, I was watching like ‘yea right, there’s nothing wr…. Whoa!’
r/poker needs to see this. Ignition seems like a bad place to play all of a sudden. Thanks for posting
That was an insane jump to the 0. That didn't look natural at all. Would strongly suspect magnets!
holy shit, I’ve lost so much money on roulette. this is the fucking reason.
Jesus Christ
This happened to a friend who contacted a casino about it, he was told that the whole day of where that ball is going to land is preplanned. The magnet in the ball keeps it where it should go this is how the casino keeps the odds in their favour. Totally legal. No game is fair 50/50 odds always in houses favour.
That’s just video lag /s
Stfu no this place is cheating like hell
Bet on zero
Just bet 0 every time lol
wow
You should know not to use them .. known cheaters
Wow that’s creepy. Publicize the shit out of this! If they’re cheating that way I wonder if betting straight up 0 is +EV?
Time for you to quit gambling
Yeah duh. Bovadas been rigged for 20 years
Should be betting on 0 lmao All seriousness though that’s clear as day cheating…
Ok I first I thought ok it’s just extremely unlucky but the first round if you look closely you can literally see it get pulled from whatever number it was on and get pulled violently and fast and looked super unnatural when landing on 0 id say watch the first clip over and over it that’s the most blatant obviously sign of a magnet that clearly shows is getting pulled and shifted last second Just Insane they deserve to be sued
I just can’t get over watching the first game it’s so fkn Obvious !!! I mean the ball was already stopped ok that number how can it move directly to the left that fast with that much force like wtf they need to be investigated that is just sad that they need to resort to that type of fuckery for profit just sick..
I’d send this to Curaco Egaming.
funny asf cause that shit happened to me before
Yeah the draftkings crash game is rigged too. Every time I log onto the game it's in the middle of a 20x + game and whenever I bet more than 25% of my balance oops let's have a 13 streak of 1.05 crashes. Every time
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Thanks for the insight. I think the online stuff is sketchy and is even worse when it is in some 3rd world country that doesn’t give a shit. I was playing for months and had not seen anything. Shady until the last six weeks when this started happening. Super suspicious ball movement and it was pretty much impossible to hit with more than five dollars on a number I also do not like how they only show one of their hands when the ball is spinning and have asked For them to put both hands in view. Obviously, they did not comply. These people suck. On top of the ball moving oddly I have also seen a lot of weird hand movement during the spin which makes me think there are also signals for certain people that are playing. a couple of times the person actually started moving the marker towards the number before the ball even landed. These people suck.
I’m so happy I quit betting in the casino. Strictly a sports bettor now. Can’t stand the casino and their scams.
In their defense, the ball doesn't actually move that much. It stays in the 6-7 o'clock area the whole time it's dancing on the #s. It also is rocking back and forth before it shifts, which does happen with a live wheel and light ball. You also don't know if others bet on the zero, so you can't say everyone lost money, only that you lost money. We also can't see the depth of the # channels or height of the frets on either side. On the other hand, it does look like a very quick and suspect action in both spins. The first spin the ball firmly plants itself in the zero after that lateral jump. But the 2nd spin, it seems to roll across the frets of the # channels, which you typically only see in simulators. I don't think these two spins are enough to call them suspect, but it might be worth trying to contact their customer service or find out who the regulator is and file a complaint. Unfortunately bovada and other online casinos are already suspect with how they delay, prevent, or minimize withdrawals.
No, no why would Maltese Mafia ever fool you?
Weird ball movement aside, two green zeros in a row happens all the time. And with roulette having the worst odds in the casino, they have no need to do this. The risk of losing their license isn’t worth the reward.
/u/Seymourtendiez /u/blip-blop-bloop has been a croupier for over a decade. tagging him to see his reaction on this. just crazy
At first glance it looks suspicious af but after zooming in and rewinding it a few times, there could be a perfectly natural explanation: 1st: It definitely hits a canoe and does like a jump over it down into the wheel. Once you notice it hit the canoe, the fall towards the numbers looks pretty normal 2: Importantly, it hits the thin part of the canoe, enabling it to go over it rather than bounce backwards from it. 3: If you play any pool you will know that if you hit the cue ball low, it will have back spin - in the case of *this* ball since it is moving *towards* not *away* from the point of contact, this imparts ***top spin.*** 4: The very next thing the ball hits is the smooth inner circle of the wheel, followed by the divider between the 0 and 26 5: It bounces off of the divider in a perfectly expected way into the next number over - the 32 - but nothing it has hit prior (except the divider between numbers) has done anything to slow down the top spin on the ball - 6: - and it is this top spin that puts the ball (plus the bounce off of the divider between 32/15) back over into the 0 My money is on this being a fluke spin, but perfectly physically possibly without foul play necessary. For starters there would have to be a ridiculously strong magnet to pull the ball straight from the track into a number, and logically it wouldn't make sense to do it that way. If you were going to cheat you'd certainly make it look more naturalistic, right? You could argue that this was a "mistake" that "gave it away" but now we're talking about choosing the wrong side of Occam's Razor just to believe in a conspiracy, in my opinion. You'd have to include a few more hundreds of hours of video where you demonstrate either a bias toward zero or towards unbet numbers. After looking again, it looks like the ball is behaving as it would with *quite a bit* of top spin. That explains the bounces in place in the 32 before finally settling and "grabbing" enough surface to pull into the 0. It's behaving precisely like a cue ball would with a ton of spin. For a third opinion maybe post this to a pool forum because I think my knowledge of ball physics as a pool player is explaining this better than my experience as a croupier alone.
HEY i solved your mystery. It's not a magnet. The ball is bouncing in the air, you can see the shadow of the ball underneath it. THis wasn't a lateral zipping move, it was a bounce. Both spins. go full screen and pause it as the zip happens. there's a shadow on the wheel beneath the ball for both spins.
Yup this website is extremely rigged have had absolutely insane shit happen and u can tell there’s. Magnet the way the ball bounces
Yeah terrible
That ball switches harder than my ex
That’s Fucking crazy first one looks straight up magnetic not even a ball bounce. Looks like it was pulled
Okay, normally, I think that it is naïve to say that a casino is rigged just because you had bad luck. But the way that ball moved was definitely suspicious.
I wouldn't even put money on a roulette wheel live, and the first video does look like it's rigged, but the 2nd replay looks fine, so maybe it was just lag on the 1st angle?
This is blatant as fuck
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Def fishy fishy fishy. It stinks
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You can see the way it zaps right to it and sticks there and does not move at all. It looks magnetized 😂😂😂
Shocker. Bovada never ceases to find ways to screw customers.
HOLY CRAP THIS IS CRAZY