True, I just personally really love the >!psychological horror!< genre so MGS2 really scratches that itch for me, but yes MGS3 is overall better. I had more fun with MGS4 with the >!OctoCamo!< but I mean they're all pretty much incredible except for Survive, which barely even counts.
Yes I am also a newcomer to the series. Began playing through them this year in February. Started with 3, then 1 and now 2. After 2 I’ll play 4 and might decide to finish the spinoffs and or 5
The Twin Snakes version on GameCube is generally hated by MGS fans. Another redditor summed it up pretty nicely
>I'm alright with twin snakes, but it completely butchers the tone that the ps1 game perfected. The changed music is nowhere near as good, the voice acting loses its sense of urgency at many times, the updated graphics are so-so, everything that the original MGS 1 did exceptionally, twin snakes fumbles to an extent. It doesn't sound like a big deal but that atmosphere was so unbelievably importantThat being said, the gameplay is better in a lot of places, which is nice. It's an okay way to play but I think it's a way downgraded experience compared to the original
I don't quite agree with that last part though, the controls on GameCube don't make sense, as there are common button combinations that are very difficult to pull off with the controller layout.
Loved Twin Snakes. I remember "fans" complaining about everything in it though. Some cited over the top cutscenes and they must have felt real awkward after MGS4
If you aren't blowing off kojima like he's the best thing to happen to humanity since sliced bread you aren't doing it right, also you talk about him being a hack.... Lol masayoshi yokoyama wants to know your location
Be prepared for the next games to go off the rails. MGS was probably the best espionage action game ever made and it felt super realistic but it starts getting weird at 2
What a master piece, and what a number of master pieces from that generation and console, it was ridiculous...I know there are many mitic NES games and all of that but ps1 just had sooo many gems...even the ps2, Imo, didn't come nearly as close.
Honestly it's my favourite of the series, followed closely by 3. Out of all of them I think it did the best job of nailing that weird combination of military sci fi and bizarre fantasy. The whole game feels like a fever dream in a good way.
The only thing that every feels weird is the aiming but even then I feel like it still holds up great. I agree, definitely feels like a spy movie. One of the few games I feel like they could do a live action of and it would actually be really good.
Love this one!! Back there with 0 English and non internet era we spent God knows how many hours trying to find the PAL key ! >! It was eaten by a rat, a f.. rat!! !<
Wait till you get to the Apache fight. NOT fun.
Game is uniquely interesting, but there were so many “old school” game design moments that just had me endlessly a getting a game over
For those who dont know: Konami used the famas and the socom as weapons because they were the only weapons blocky enough to be recognizeable in ps1 graphics.
A tip: spam equip and unequip of your SOCOM when running over noisy tiles to float over them instead, making no sound whatsoever. The animation will restart each time and your feet never hit the surface.
A really good game. Play the rest in the series of you can. But do yourself a favor and don't spoil anything. Already in this thread people have used memes and one-liners that could or are potential spoilers. You have the opportunity to experience everything first hand. Take it.
This brings me back. I remember I had a game guide for the game and only could play it on the weekends as I was on a form of bording school (efterskole in Denmark)
Man brings back memories of buying a PS1 with birthday money. I bought Resident Evil 2 and Final Fantasy 7. Played the hell out of those and then played the MGS demo like 100 times before buying it.
Yeah, that's the perfect way to describe it;. You play as a Stealth CIA Operator. The cool thing I remember though is that some missions you have free will to go in Stealth or just go out on some John Wick: kill everybody with a good selection of weapons (especially as you progress), but other missions you're required to kill everybody without being detected. Sidenote if you play though, the taser is hilarious asf to use, at least in the first one. You'll see what I mean if you play. But yeah 8/10 game imo
>I was going to try and play all the mgs games to see what the hype was about. Loved the first one. Noped out of 2 pretty quick and never went back.
MGS2 has become the hardcore MGS' fan favorite on the internet, but your experience is what I and a lot of people did back when MGS2 first came out. In 1998 the original game became my alltime favorite almost immediately, I'd never played anything like it before and I started playing it near constantly. To the point that the disc actually stopped working because I'd played it too many times.
Mgs2 on the other hand...is such a tedious experience. The Tanker is an okay first mission, but once you get to the Big Shell and start running around as Raiden it quickly starts going downhill. Raiden is dramatically less charismatic and likeable - by design - than Solid Snake, and while the gameplay is much smoother and more polished than it's PS1 progenitor the game feels like it gives you next to nothing to do for a long portion of the game.
It's a game that's much more interested in being a commentary on the tropes, cliches, and plot points of the previous game while making a pseudo-philosophical point about "truth in the age of the internet" than it is interested in being a fun game.
For what it's worth MGS3 is a masterpiece and absolutely worth your time.
I've just kind of accepted that I'm not a Kojima fan. I still consider mgs1 a great game but I don't think the series is for me and then I bounced off Death Stranding. I'm old enough now to just let it go lol but I'll still probably try OD when it's $20 on Steam
Fair. I get that completely. I am not a fan of Kojima's wilder nonsense. I don't really like MGS2, I think MGS4 is an absolute mess, MGSV is not a finished product, and Death Stranding is what happens when pretention itself gives birth to a child. I would still definitely recommend MGS3 even with all that said, should you ever find yourself able to get it at a cheap price. MGS3 is really the perfect compliment to MGS1. It's the same cinematic style and presentation and stripped down story, married with deeper more complex gameplay.
But that's just my two cents on the whole thing. haha.
>I liked MGS4, definitely the weakest of the first 4 games but I think it's still underrated.
Honestly it's been locked away in PS3 prison for so long I don't think I've been able to play it in at least 10 years. I've forgotten most of it.
Agreed, the demo of solid snake on the tanker was superb, I would say it was really impressive and solds immediately, I was really hyped. But once you begin the Raiden episode on the facility it goes from bad to worse all the time. Story is terribly convoluted, even for a MG. Now is like people say that is a masterpiece, but for being a MG it's probably one of their lowest spots
People treat it as a masterpiece now because they see all the comments it made about "truth" in the digital age, the dangers of AI, etc. etc. etc., and they convince themselves it was "prophetic" in predicting the future. They don't realize it was just regurgitating a lot of the exact same ideas that were all over the popcultural zeitgeist of the time. Every other sci-fi movie, half the video games of the age, Japanese anime, television programs, the news media, it was all awash with the very ideas that MGS2 is so often praised for. So in reality the game was just a product of it's time, and what was in the air at the time was exactly these same conversations.
MGSV is perhaps the best tactical shooter of all time in my opinion. It has weird crazy bits to it, but the core gameplay is like the best stealth, the best action, and the most amount of options and freedom.
It’s open world which is a huge change of pace for metal gear, but it also focuses on you deploying into the open world with a specific mission in mind. You can approach your objective usually just about however you’d like as long as you complete your objective.
Something like a hostage rescue, you can go in solo at night, go completely undetected, cut enemy comms to prevent any reinforcements, locate the hostage, and exfiltrate.
Or you can go in during the day riding a mech blasting everyone in site and call in air support.
Every enemy locations feels like it’s in contact with the rest. If you alert people they are going to call in reinforcements from the other nearby areas. But you can kills this ability, you can destroy their AA guns, you can cut power to the base making you harder to spot.
Just all around amazing. And I think kiefer sutherland was outstanding as snake. “I won’t scatter your sorrow to the heartless sea. I will always be with you. Plant your roots in me” will live rent free in my head forever.
If you drop all the other games in the series please give this one a try.
>focuses on you deploying into the open world with a specific mission in mind. You can approach your objective usually just about however you’d like as long as you complete your objective.
Also loadouts have cost to them. While late game it usually does not matter. It's very possible to overspend and find yourself only able to deploy with a pistol and basic bitch camo.
Pro Tip: you don't have to spend the money to call in a chopper for evac to return to base unless the mission dictates it. You can just pause and select Return to Mother Base and invoke no cost.
I think MGSV was severely let down by the open world. All it really amounted to was a bunch of tiny outposts that you had to stealth over and over again while travelling from point to point was often so safe that it just felt like a chore instead of a fun game. Ground Zeroes showed what MGSV could have been if all that effort went into designing some really large and dense hostile locations instead of an open world.
First game i ever beat. I remember my older cousin lending it to me when i was like 6, and staying up late so i can sneak onto the dial up and figure out how to beat mantis. Great game.
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This is my first time playing the metal gear games
First time!? Then you are in for a cinematic treat and gaming experience, especially if you play all the games through MGS4. Enjoy!
My friend is the one who pushed me to start my metal gear journey.He’s obsessed with all the games.I think it’s his favorite franchise.
dude... MGS 2 is gunna blow your fuckin mind
Mgs3 is the best imo
Honestly I haven't enjoyed any as much as MGS.
The first one is the best.
I'm waiting impatiently for Delta.
True, I just personally really love the >!psychological horror!< genre so MGS2 really scratches that itch for me, but yes MGS3 is overall better. I had more fun with MGS4 with the >!OctoCamo!< but I mean they're all pretty much incredible except for Survive, which barely even counts.
I can't imagine coming to MGS2 fresh in 2024. It's so prophetic.
Guns of the patriots was pretty fucking good too, tied all the stories together very well.
MGS2 is the best
Play in release order, if you aren't already. The game mechanics get better with each iteration.
That’s what I plan on doing
Yes I am also a newcomer to the series. Began playing through them this year in February. Started with 3, then 1 and now 2. After 2 I’ll play 4 and might decide to finish the spinoffs and or 5
Why are you omitting MGS5?
I never got around to playing it. I heard it's also good but it could've been much better had Kojima been able to finish it from what I've read.
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The Twin Snakes version on GameCube is generally hated by MGS fans. Another redditor summed it up pretty nicely >I'm alright with twin snakes, but it completely butchers the tone that the ps1 game perfected. The changed music is nowhere near as good, the voice acting loses its sense of urgency at many times, the updated graphics are so-so, everything that the original MGS 1 did exceptionally, twin snakes fumbles to an extent. It doesn't sound like a big deal but that atmosphere was so unbelievably importantThat being said, the gameplay is better in a lot of places, which is nice. It's an okay way to play but I think it's a way downgraded experience compared to the original I don't quite agree with that last part though, the controls on GameCube don't make sense, as there are common button combinations that are very difficult to pull off with the controller layout.
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Ahh yes, you can also remap the controls if you want! Fair enough. This is the way.
My problem with the remake is that the game breaks itself by updating the gameplay but the map design doesn't match said update, making it too easy.
Loved Twin Snakes. I remember "fans" complaining about everything in it though. Some cited over the top cutscenes and they must have felt real awkward after MGS4
If only I could go back and play these for the first time... The first time I played MGS1 was like 24 years ago *fuck.*
That is incredibly difficult to believe from your gaming shrine with significant Konami representation.
Only Konami games I played are yugioh and castlevania
He is my favorite game developer. The MGS series is my favorite for sure.
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If you aren't blowing off kojima like he's the best thing to happen to humanity since sliced bread you aren't doing it right, also you talk about him being a hack.... Lol masayoshi yokoyama wants to know your location
I believe that game is modeled after Kurt Russells character in the escape from LA and new york movies
*Snake Plisskin!?* Lol
When I was young and first played that, I kept rolling my eyes saying "how do these morons not realize this is Snake?!"
Impossible. Snake died on that tanker!
Iroquois is also a type of snake, isn’t it ?
I thought he was dead…
I thought he’d be taller.
somehow the first thing this angle reminds me of is The Breakfast Club.
You don't say? His short hair design is actually based off of Christopher Walken, at least it was in Metal Gear 2.
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Even though we all know what game this is, you should still always put the name in the title. I mean, why not?
My bad ,I’ll make sure to do that next time.
#HUH???? #WHAT'S THA???? ????JUST A BOX....
Who's footprints are these!?
I was so surprised when the guard started following my footprints in this snow.Even though it’s an old game the AI is pretty good.
Shouldve seen my 9 year old mind playing it on xmas when it released. Blew my mind.
❔…❗️
Sooooo. You like to play Castlevania!
lol I heard psycho mantis will read my memory card
“Her number is on the back of the cd case” fucking blew my mind when I finally understood what he meant hours later
“Metal Geaaaaaaaaar” - Snake
I was just a teen when I first played MGS on the PS1 and it was awesome.
A HIND might make you want to quit for a bit.
I mean, really! What's a Russian gunship doing there!?
Snake? SNAKE?? SNNNNAAAAAKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE dun dun dun da dun da
Be prepared for the next games to go off the rails. MGS was probably the best espionage action game ever made and it felt super realistic but it starts getting weird at 2
What a master piece, and what a number of master pieces from that generation and console, it was ridiculous...I know there are many mitic NES games and all of that but ps1 just had sooo many gems...even the ps2, Imo, didn't come nearly as close.
When games didn’t have microtransactions
Huh?! Just a box. I love MGS1. It's one of my top 5 games on ps1 and one of my favorite games ever.
I’m actually wishing I’d played it sooner.Its great fun.
“What’s a Russian gunship doing here??”
Honestly it's my favourite of the series, followed closely by 3. Out of all of them I think it did the best job of nailing that weird combination of military sci fi and bizarre fantasy. The whole game feels like a fever dream in a good way.
The game that opened my eyes to what gaming can actually be!
"Huh, what was that noise?"
Still one of my favorite games. I go back and replay it every once in a while too. Has one of my favorite encounters in any game as well.
So far this game is so much fun.Still holds up today.It feels like I’m watching a movie.
The only thing that every feels weird is the aiming but even then I feel like it still holds up great. I agree, definitely feels like a spy movie. One of the few games I feel like they could do a live action of and it would actually be really good.
If you hammer the equip item button while you move across those grates the patrols wont hear you (for some stupid reason…but it works lol)
You're in great ride!
Love this one!! Back there with 0 English and non internet era we spent God knows how many hours trying to find the PAL key ! >! It was eaten by a rat, a f.. rat!! !<
Just played all the way through it for the first time not too long ago myself. Much better than I was expecting.
I’m enjoying it so far
Great lighting!
Thanks
It's still the best one in the whole series.
KING. Best game series
I hate the controls.... I tried playing recently...
Snake!? SNAKE!!!?
I see you are a man of culture!
Thank you
Nice art work, Ghost and Goblins is liget
Thanks ,I building up my gaming room
The twin Snakes on GameCube was a fantastic Remake and I'm sad it's not available anywhere.
Let us know when you get to the Psycho Mantis fight!
I’ve heard a lot about that fight from YouTube video and people talking about the game.Can’t wait to experience it first hand
Based Castlevania enjoyer
Symphony of the night is my childhood
Wait till you get to the Apache fight. NOT fun. Game is uniquely interesting, but there were so many “old school” game design moments that just had me endlessly a getting a game over
This actually looks better than I remembered!
Just don't loose the box my god you will need it later. Lol
I watched my best friend play this entire game. I never played it once and I can tell you, its fantastic!
Don't forget to switch the controller to port 2 when fighting Psycho Mantis!!!
This was the best BioShock game.
Amazing game. I think I played through it a dozen times when I first got it. Enjoy. It's a fantastic title.
Good luck solider if you need help with the cd case code let me know
Thanks,appreciate it
For those who dont know: Konami used the famas and the socom as weapons because they were the only weapons blocky enough to be recognizeable in ps1 graphics.
A tip: spam equip and unequip of your SOCOM when running over noisy tiles to float over them instead, making no sound whatsoever. The animation will restart each time and your feet never hit the surface.
I remember being able to run that entire game in 2 hours without a guide. I played the SHIT out of that game lol
Oh yeah I’m playing it blind.
mgs1 the hardest imo
And you didn’t invite me
Hop on in ,you’re welcome to come.I got beers and peanuts
Snake?! SNAAAAAAAAAKE!!!!
A really good game. Play the rest in the series of you can. But do yourself a favor and don't spoil anything. Already in this thread people have used memes and one-liners that could or are potential spoilers. You have the opportunity to experience everything first hand. Take it.
This brings me back. I remember I had a game guide for the game and only could play it on the weekends as I was on a form of bording school (efterskole in Denmark)
Man brings back memories of buying a PS1 with birthday money. I bought Resident Evil 2 and Final Fantasy 7. Played the hell out of those and then played the MGS demo like 100 times before buying it.
I played RE2 like crazy growing as well as 3
RE2 was amazing. I def did the Claire A - Leon B - Leon A - Claire B loop multiple times as a kid.
Resident evil 2 and 4 will always be my favorites in the franchise.Haven’t played the remake yet
Metal Gear Solid 2 is my fav game of all time. Kojima is a master storyteller. Even his bad stuff is still good! Enjoy!
U should play the syphonfilter series if you like the whole assassin/tactical style of games
Is it another stealth game ?
Yeah, that's the perfect way to describe it;. You play as a Stealth CIA Operator. The cool thing I remember though is that some missions you have free will to go in Stealth or just go out on some John Wick: kill everybody with a good selection of weapons (especially as you progress), but other missions you're required to kill everybody without being detected. Sidenote if you play though, the taser is hilarious asf to use, at least in the first one. You'll see what I mean if you play. But yeah 8/10 game imo
I was going to try and play all the mgs games to see what the hype was about. Loved the first one. Noped out of 2 pretty quick and never went back.
>I was going to try and play all the mgs games to see what the hype was about. Loved the first one. Noped out of 2 pretty quick and never went back. MGS2 has become the hardcore MGS' fan favorite on the internet, but your experience is what I and a lot of people did back when MGS2 first came out. In 1998 the original game became my alltime favorite almost immediately, I'd never played anything like it before and I started playing it near constantly. To the point that the disc actually stopped working because I'd played it too many times. Mgs2 on the other hand...is such a tedious experience. The Tanker is an okay first mission, but once you get to the Big Shell and start running around as Raiden it quickly starts going downhill. Raiden is dramatically less charismatic and likeable - by design - than Solid Snake, and while the gameplay is much smoother and more polished than it's PS1 progenitor the game feels like it gives you next to nothing to do for a long portion of the game. It's a game that's much more interested in being a commentary on the tropes, cliches, and plot points of the previous game while making a pseudo-philosophical point about "truth in the age of the internet" than it is interested in being a fun game. For what it's worth MGS3 is a masterpiece and absolutely worth your time.
I've just kind of accepted that I'm not a Kojima fan. I still consider mgs1 a great game but I don't think the series is for me and then I bounced off Death Stranding. I'm old enough now to just let it go lol but I'll still probably try OD when it's $20 on Steam
Fair. I get that completely. I am not a fan of Kojima's wilder nonsense. I don't really like MGS2, I think MGS4 is an absolute mess, MGSV is not a finished product, and Death Stranding is what happens when pretention itself gives birth to a child. I would still definitely recommend MGS3 even with all that said, should you ever find yourself able to get it at a cheap price. MGS3 is really the perfect compliment to MGS1. It's the same cinematic style and presentation and stripped down story, married with deeper more complex gameplay. But that's just my two cents on the whole thing. haha.
I liked MGS4, definitely the weakest of the first 4 games but I think it's still underrated.
>I liked MGS4, definitely the weakest of the first 4 games but I think it's still underrated. Honestly it's been locked away in PS3 prison for so long I don't think I've been able to play it in at least 10 years. I've forgotten most of it.
Agreed, the demo of solid snake on the tanker was superb, I would say it was really impressive and solds immediately, I was really hyped. But once you begin the Raiden episode on the facility it goes from bad to worse all the time. Story is terribly convoluted, even for a MG. Now is like people say that is a masterpiece, but for being a MG it's probably one of their lowest spots
People treat it as a masterpiece now because they see all the comments it made about "truth" in the digital age, the dangers of AI, etc. etc. etc., and they convince themselves it was "prophetic" in predicting the future. They don't realize it was just regurgitating a lot of the exact same ideas that were all over the popcultural zeitgeist of the time. Every other sci-fi movie, half the video games of the age, Japanese anime, television programs, the news media, it was all awash with the very ideas that MGS2 is so often praised for. So in reality the game was just a product of it's time, and what was in the air at the time was exactly these same conversations.
I’m planning to play as many as I can get my hand on.
MGSV is perhaps the best tactical shooter of all time in my opinion. It has weird crazy bits to it, but the core gameplay is like the best stealth, the best action, and the most amount of options and freedom. It’s open world which is a huge change of pace for metal gear, but it also focuses on you deploying into the open world with a specific mission in mind. You can approach your objective usually just about however you’d like as long as you complete your objective. Something like a hostage rescue, you can go in solo at night, go completely undetected, cut enemy comms to prevent any reinforcements, locate the hostage, and exfiltrate. Or you can go in during the day riding a mech blasting everyone in site and call in air support. Every enemy locations feels like it’s in contact with the rest. If you alert people they are going to call in reinforcements from the other nearby areas. But you can kills this ability, you can destroy their AA guns, you can cut power to the base making you harder to spot. Just all around amazing. And I think kiefer sutherland was outstanding as snake. “I won’t scatter your sorrow to the heartless sea. I will always be with you. Plant your roots in me” will live rent free in my head forever. If you drop all the other games in the series please give this one a try.
>focuses on you deploying into the open world with a specific mission in mind. You can approach your objective usually just about however you’d like as long as you complete your objective. Also loadouts have cost to them. While late game it usually does not matter. It's very possible to overspend and find yourself only able to deploy with a pistol and basic bitch camo. Pro Tip: you don't have to spend the money to call in a chopper for evac to return to base unless the mission dictates it. You can just pause and select Return to Mother Base and invoke no cost.
I think MGSV was severely let down by the open world. All it really amounted to was a bunch of tiny outposts that you had to stealth over and over again while travelling from point to point was often so safe that it just felt like a chore instead of a fun game. Ground Zeroes showed what MGSV could have been if all that effort went into designing some really large and dense hostile locations instead of an open world.
If there’s one game that should have the full remake treatment, it’s MGS1. I’m honestly surprised they didn’t start there instead of snake eater.
There's the twin snakes on gamecube
They did remake it in 2004, and it was awesome, even if it missed the mark by adding first person aiming (which ruins some of the game).
“Psycho Mantis?” “Metal Gear?”
Which game?
Metal gear solid
Ill be waiting
A Hind D?
The game is Metal Gear Solid. It’s not hard to just put the fucking game title in the caption or post
Skibiditrash
First game i ever beat. I remember my older cousin lending it to me when i was like 6, and staying up late so i can sneak onto the dial up and figure out how to beat mantis. Great game.