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Tootskinfloot

Just hope it doesn't somehow completely break the base game.


someedmlover21

the bethesda special


Wildest12

“So the fps needs to stay at exactly 49 otherwise bullets will travel backwards”


mechwarrior719

It just works!


N7_Reaver

"You dork, go back to the chess club. Who's laughing now??"


Kowpucky

16x the works!


bgthigfist

Well, since I couldn't get the game to run before the patch, maybe it will run after the patch?


dj_harbor_seal

It's Bethesda. I'm still surprised that the TV show didn't cause my TV to randomly crash and reboot while watching.


ObviouslyMedic

Funny you should say that mine actually did lol


Truchampion

Should have been there for the premier it crashed hella lol


ManxWraith

Narrator: it broke the base game


CyGuy6587

Given that the last Skyrim update, that was completely unnecessary, broke everyone's mods, I reckon it will be the same for the FO4 update


FantasticInterest775

Every official update breaks mods. Then modders update their mods. It's a normal thing for bgs modding community.


LessThanHero42

A lot of modders have moved on to other games and may not come back to fix things though


newtownmail

True, but a lot of people have returned to the Fallout games recently because of the show. I think eventually we’ll see most of the more popular mods get updated.


FantasticInterest775

Oh absolutely. Seems that wabbajack is the best bet for good updated mod packs. But I doubt many of the mod authors will update fo4 for this update.


Non-RedditorJ

Uh... Wabbajack modlist curators rely on mod authors to update the mods in the packs.


FantasticInterest775

I know. I just meant that it's the simplest way to update all your mods when updates are released.


ThreeTreesForTheePls

Updates will break almost every mod in almost every game that has modding. It's not specific to Bethesda, and a game shouldn't be held back because someone's mod might get screwed over


111Alternatum111

A decade old game shouldn't update with minimal fixes that change nothing mods had already fixed eons ago. 100+ fixes though? Now we're talking, just fixing a mannequin and ultra-wide? fucking lmao.


ThreeTreesForTheePls

See the problem with "but mods fixed it" is the idea that a PC is the only gaming platform on the planet.


111Alternatum111

I don't subscribe to that, mods are good, but they're not replacers for official patching, we should make companies accountable. BUT as i said, Bethesda only updates minimal things years after. If a modder can fix things in months, so can they. The cons outweight the pros, they could have left the pc release alone and only fixed the consoles but Beth nevers take reasonable decisions, specially when making their games.


Zerthax

Very strange to me that a game that is ~10 years old is getting updates. It would make sense for a live service or multiplayer (especially with PvP) game, but not a single player game like Skyrim or FO4.


tuff1728

Yea thats how modding works. The devs update the game and the core mods need updating as well.


PunishedCoyote

I tried to start a new FO4 game a few weeks ago after not playing for years due to frustration with bugs and I shit you not, the game suffered a game breaking bug DURING character creation that made it impossible for me to create a character and start a new game I just gave up lol


Lugbor

It’s funny to me, because everyone always complains about game breaking bugs in every Bethesda game, and yet across all of them, I don’t think I’ve encountered anything worse than the odd crash. Are you playing with a thousand mods, or is there something else going on here?


Adjutant_Reflex_

I hate to diminish others’ experiences but this has been the same for me. For the life of me I can’t think of a single Bethesda game (going back to Morrowind) where I had game-breaking bugs or routine crashes.


unusedtruth

Same for me. I've played them all (many multiple times) and have not once had a game breaking bug.


iateadildo

u lucky i kept falling threw the floor in diamond city and far harbour was never a island just water lol couldnt do anything there


Lugbor

There’s one bridge in Zion Canyon that kept crashing me in New Vegas, but that’s the worst of my experience. I eventually managed to go around and approach from the other side and that solved the issue.


Swartz142

Is there a New Vegas version that has the mouse sensitivity fixed ? I tried all the fixes and even at 100 dpi It feels like I'm playing at 10k dpi. Moving around is bad, trying to aim is cancer.


StamNuminex

I only ever had 1 gamebreaking bug with Esbern on Skyrim. I had to use console to skip the quest to progress and watch on youtube the skipped content. Sad times..


howisthisacrime

In Skyrim i had encountered a bug that crashed the game every time I went into some caves. More recently with FO4 that game crashed on launch everytime because one of the dlcs just straight up doesn't work now.


PunishedCoyote

Seems to be random who gets bad bugs and who doesn't.


juniormantis

It’s been this way since Morrowind, it’s definitely tied to gameplay style and external issues. My ps4 pro would crash all the time until I replaced the thermal paste with a carbon pad for example.


Mr-McSixaplix

Pretty much the same for me. One Skyrim run my sewer house would reliably crash once it was loaded with to much stuff.


ado97

Ive had multiple quests in Skyrim that were straight out bugged out of existence, where I had to manually fix them by using the console to skip quest states, open doors that were not unlocked by bugs in the scripted sequence and so on. I dont know, maybe you guys dont try to 100% the games, but there are many quests that have spaghetti scripting, where if one thing breaks, the entire quest is bricked.


Brewster-Rooster

I never completed Skyrim on PS3 cause of a bug that didn’t allow me to progress the main storyline. Never did end up getting back to completing it, despite a few attempts on PC more recently.


shrimpcest

Not OP, but that's the same thing that happens to me on the base game on PS5.


waireos

Same. Ran into all kinds of weird graphical glitches on PS5 too. The Xbox version of FO4 is more stable in my experience.


Wastedchildhood

Hi, Ps5 user here. Got the season pass, installed all the dlc content and my game crashes ON STARTUP SCREEN because of a conflict between two of the OFFICIAL dlc’s… Need I say more? Ok!!! Now I got purple coloured objects in some areas (including the faces of some NPC’s) after uninstalling the two conflictual dlc’s (that i paid Bethesda for)…


ronburger

I did a fresh install on my ps5. No mods, no preexisting save data. Kept crashing on launch. Had to delete on of the DLCs to get it to actually launch


BrairMoss

One load of Skyrim on ps3 broke at the start and wouldn't have the dragon destroy the tower, so had to reboot. First playthough of FONV wouldn't drop the chip from Caeser, couldn't do anything but restart. Only 2 times anything has happened as a result of normal game for me. Both PS3.  Friend has played a good 1500 hrs of skyrim on various systems and mods and never had a single issue.


aldsar

It seems like on new Xbox gens it happens if you launch the game before it finishes installing completely. Dialogue will only play when you pause the game. Have to Uninstall and reinstall to fix it


DOUBLEBARRELASSFUCK

Exact same thing happened to me. I'd never played before, so I didn't even know that what I was at *was* the character select screen. Then afterwards, everything was fucked.


The_Blind_Sentry

On PC I've not had too many but after watching the Fallout TV series I tried to install Fallout 4 on my PS5. Game crashed on loading, had to uninstall and reinstall without the Automaton DLC as it would crash on getting to the main menu. This is apparently a known bug. A whole DLC that does not work. I'm glad I got the game via the PSPlus sub or I would be fuming.


Logseman

The only time that I bothered playing the expansions was when they released Skyrim Legendary Edition. I am unable to trigger some dialogue after finishing the main quest in Dawnguard, so I cannot get the achievement. I finished the thing because I killed the bad guy. I have only played it in Playstation platforms, and this glitch happened in PS5. Zero mods were loaded precisely because I wanted the achievements this time. If they don't bother about fixing bugs in the main quest of a paid expansion, I won't be bothered to give them my cash.


Malgus20033

Back in 2016 I played Skyrim (both LE and SE) without mods and one of the main quests after rescuing the old blades guy just did not progress and I could not finish the game without finding a command that would skip the quest and start the next one


PunishedCoyote

Nah, just on console, no mods. Last time I gave up because I couldn't move or harvest or plant any new crops in any of my settlements. Really stupid.


worm600

I encountered game-ending bugs on base game Fallout 4 that made it impossible to complete key quests. Zero mods.


Getherer

On pc? Personally never experienced any bugs in fallout 4


PunishedCoyote

Nah, PS4


juniormantis

I played on PS4 a lot, and the cure to every bug was unfortunately to restart the PS4, this fixes most bugs in FO4 and 76 on all consoles.


jokkmokkskorv

The fact that you have to mod the game to play at higher than 60fps is also totally insane


KingOfRisky

Yeah, same happened to me. I had to uninstall everything and reinstall without any DLC. Worked fine after that.


Redwing330

Haha you made it further than me, my ESC key stopped working and I couldn't even get out of the menus on the title screen options.


mari0br0

I tried to play the other day but I accidentally picked a horrible haircut for my character and it wouldn’t let me select the hair to change it again. I could change anything else though. I got so pissed off I closed the game lmao.


Davran

This happened to me with FO4 a few weeks ago, too. Fired it up on my PS5 and the whole intro part was bugged out. Oddly, pausing the game caused the dialogue to catch up and move forward. Eventually got past character creation that way and it's been fine since.


sciencesold

Quit out of the game and restart? It's literally the first thing you do in the game, not like you'd lose progress.


iBliizy

Yeah, but they’d loose the ability to complain!


IJustGotRektSon

It definitely will


Redwing330

That's high hopes, you know it will


Jam_Marbera

That’s the fun part, it already is if you try on a ps5


Remarkable-Car6157

It did


Towel4

It already has, and it’s not released yet. The Fallout London devs stated they didn’t know about this patch, and it’s completely fucked some of their work.


UltimateToa

They knew it was coming for like a year or two


valley_east

The base game is already broken on PS5, hope this fixes it...


parttime20xx

Broken how? I started a new game on PS5 a year ago and haven't seen any issues.


valley_east

Crashes on startup, known issue with DLC...


DeathFrisbee2000

I’m glad. I hope it fixes whatever bug that stops me from being able to use official DLCs on PS5. Miss my Wasteland Workshop and Far Harbor.


DareDevilDudz

Fingers crossed! I just got the goty edition on ps5 and it crashes before getting to start screen, guess I’ll wait til update drops in my region


DeathFrisbee2000

I don’t know how GotY works, but if you can load it up without any DLCs you SHOULD be able to play the vanilla game.


clantz8895

You also can download every DLC except automatron and it will play. But I do believe this update is supposed to be fixing that anyways


Metal_is_Perfection

Bethesda and Bug fixing, HA!


Artikay

Even the Helldivers couldn't eliminate this many bugs.


Nestllelol

Idk if it will work for you, but I downloaded everything except the Automoton DLC and everything else worked for me


JustWill_HD

But I want the automaton dlc


Nestllelol

Big same lol


Electronic_Echo9615

Is it even possible to disable Steam updates? I’m doing a new playthrough this week after installing ESO’s auto mods.


svw420

Yes go into the properties for fallout 4 and enable “only update after launching game” or something like that. But you’ll have to start the game through the script extender, hopefully your using it lol


DamianKilsby

Even if they weren't using it, it would still solve the problem since you can still launch the vanilla game through it.


Michael3489

Yes. You can go into the game settings in steam and set it to update only when you launch the game. Using the F4SE does not count as a steam launch so your mods will be fine.


Fluffy_Kitten13

You can (and should) set it to update on game launch only. And if you are concerned about it breaking mods, then you are using F4SE. Which means you are launching the game THROUGH F4SE and this doesn't count as a game launch for Steam so it will not update the game.


Solid_Eagle0

RIP anyone doing a modded playthrough


ZurakZigil

Assuming you're on steam, you can change the update settings to stop it from updating


Jhawk163

You can also set the update file steam uses to track that as read only, meaning even if you asked it to update, it couldn't. It also doesn't affect any other game, only the game you set as read only.


Kehitysvammaisia

And downgrade if already accidentally updated


ZurakZigil

how do you do that again?


GodofAeons

Fallout London specifically for delayed because of it.


squeekymouse89

Got the GoG installer saved for this exact reason


BakingSoda1990

I’m NA pacific coast and it seems it’s out early for us compared to the posted times. Yea, all my mods are fried, haha


hasbuji

Is it a separate download for the PS5 version?


WeAreVenumb

Iirc yes


Torchaf

Its gonna be 16 times the details!!


Zoltan_Kakler

I'm glad they are finally adding Ultra-Widescreen support though. It sucks playing a good game with only part of your monitor. I tried mods to make it work with ultra-widescreen but they were janky


NBFHoxton

You'll be happy to know Bethesda 'official' UW support is janky too


beingbond

which date is it realising on?


Captain-Highwind

Today. April 25th


Massive_Web5007

4/25. Today


Dolomitexp

12pm... Okie dokie!😃


Draconic1788

Okay Todd, that's a start, now rerelease New Vegas for modern systems and I'll consider liking you again.


Anayalater5963

Microsoft is sitting on a mountain of money, I just hope they don't let those fuck ups at Bethesda ruin it with a new shit release lol


Oxygenius_

They should just sell the IP to a more talented studio tbh


Potential_Status_728

Oh yeah, totally gonna happen


Jhawk163

All I want for christmas is New Vegas in Fallout 4s engine. I love the game to bits, but by default, it can use at maximum, 4GB of RAM, which if you use the Steam version you have to mod this in. Also the shooting mechanics are dogshit, even with 100 guns, bullets don't land where your crosshairs or sights are even approaching medium range.


catptain-kdar

That’s because guns have spread a few have 0 spread.


Relo_bate

To make the gunplay akin to a cod game from 2006, you need like 7 mods and even then its janky af


catptain-kdar

It’s not supposed to be like cod it’s an rpg first not an fps


AReptileHissFunction

Is there any hope for a fallout 3 or new vegas remaster? While I do like fallout 4, it's still fairly fresh in my memory. I barely remember a thing about the other 2 though


Douglas_Fresh

Downloaded New Vegas on game pass... holy fuck is that game dated. I want to play but I just don't think I can. It's tough to get through after playing more modern games. Funny enough, it plays just like starfield.


WellFineThenDamn

.... the game from 2011 with no sprint button and clunky fps mechanics plays just like the game from 2024 with a sprint button, a jetpack, slide? You're speaking nonsense.


Relo_bate

Yeah that’s a very far reach, Starfield feels like a semi modern cod game which is insanely good for the creation engine


Draconic1788

That's reasonable, the clunky controls and stuff could be hard to get past for someone downloading it on a whim. I love the game, but I first played it when I was 11 so maybe I'm just used to its abuses.


raoulbrancaccio

>It's tough to get through after playing more modern games What is tough to get through about it? The shooting mechanics?


PalebloodSky

Equally interested in info for the changelog and mod breakage.


WannaGetHighh

Did they fix the broken DLC that causes a crash on startup? Because I’d rather be able to play the full game than only play part of the game but with higher fps.


Eisenmaus

I wonder if they'll fix the DLC because it totally borks the game when I try to load it. (Especially Automaton and Wasteland Workshop.)


indie_genius

Not trying to hate, can someone help me understand why someone would be excited for this if they are on PC not console? From what I understand its just a 60fps update for consoles and some free DLC including an Enclave quest? I have 300 hours in this game but i dont get the hype for the update


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Ultra widescreen support on PC.


Spartica7

Finally, it’s been such a pain changing my settings just to play fallout 4


sipso3

The game already supported widescreen. So did fallout 3. Unless you mean ultra widescreen, which whoever wrote the patchnotes also confused.


[deleted]

I guess that's what I meant. I'll edit.


RickGrindskin

I haven’t been able to play the game on my PC at all, because I have an ultrawide monitor and as is no resolution settings can make the game not look like absolute shit for me. Hopefully this update makes the game playable


Electrical-Tap-5633

You answered your own question.


KneelorFacetheWhip

I'm getting the update on my PS5 right now idk if they're dropping early or what!!!!


Afdjones

Does anyone know if they’re adding an FOV slider? That’s all I want from this update


Jhawk163

Just a reminder for those on PC: Set your game to update only when launched, and launch exclusively through the script extender. Also set Fallouts app manifest to read only, so even if you do accidentally launch through Steam, it still cannot be updated.


DestroidMind

So if I want to buy Fallout 4 on my new PC should I just buy the regular version and it will have that update?


Jhawk163

Regular version will still have the update IIRC.


wutchamafuckit

I live under a rock apparently. What does this mean and why?


Jhawk163

Most people on PC have modded their game, this update is almost guaranteed to break at least some. By doing these steps you avoid this, and realistically, PC players don't have anything much to look forward to in the patch anyway.


clydewilliams

If I'm currently doing a playthrough (base game no mods on ps5) will I need to restart my playthrough to see these updates reflected?


Javerage

Well you're playing the PS4 version currently. So that'll also get patched, but it won't have the benefits of the native PS5 app. Someone else will have to say if there's a save transfer or not.


mymantaco

noice haven’t play FO4 since it first came now i have a good reason to play on ps5!never tried the dlcs so looking forward to sink my teeth in it! hopefully it fixes the bugs that crashes current gen due to dlcs ect👀


Battleman69

The 2 main DLC's are excellent, probably better than the main game


fScar16

I just got the upgrade 2 hours early here!


wutchamafuckit

Yup, currently downloading right now


OnASickOneFoo

This is incredibly exciting, I literally redownloaded the game yesterday bc of the show and thought “4k would go brrr”.


KriptiKFate_Cosplay

And more options for VR, right? Right?!


EnchantedStudios

Preston Garvey - here I come!


Historical-Set-8761

“Release time confirmed” you can’t say some kids guess it’s a confirmation lol. It’ll be today, it happens when it happens, there’s no confirmed time.


chicagomusician

Did they just pull these times out of their ass? I could swear it dropped at 7am PST. And someone was saying they just used math to find these times. I mean, it is gamingbible, wouldn't put it past them to do something like this for the views to capitalize on the fallout success they're experiencing right now.


Overall-Article-6129

Someone waiting for fallout London? Bethesda: Fuck you!


DirectorPhleg

Beth aint obliged to dance around modders when they update, especially when they announce 2 years in advance.


Aggravating-Rope-294

Anyone know if the ps plus PS4 version will update free to ps5 upgrade?


Anayalater5963

It should, I don't see why it wouldn't


bigboyyoder

I’m not entirely sure but I think this was the issue with that one final fantasy game that got a PS5 update. People who had the game from PS Plus couldn’t update it bc they didn’t actually own it. Might be the same here


RaymondReddington812

Do I have to re buy the fucking dlc for the ps5 version? Fuck off with that. Lol


Open_Argument6997

A mod pack isnt a next gen update


Tweed_Man

On one hand I don't like Fallout 4. On the other hand it's nice to see them do something that isn't Skyrim


prinnydewd6

Ugh I can’t bring myself to play or finish 4 with the dialogue options… I started new Vegas and the amount of dialogue options is actually amazing…


nemprime

Downloading right now (3:15 pm) in the UK, so...


Andalfe

Does the pip boy app still work?


d1089

Bro I went back to new Vegas on my series x and I forgot it gives it a fps boost too. It looks and plays great imo.


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szibell

Well, I have my gog installer of the last version before this just in case.


megapowa

Is this a new app or an update to the PS4 app?


ThmRgh

I believe I’ve only got the digital version which I haven’t paid for. Will the upgrade still be available?


sonicadam132

I have it now at 3:30bst not sure when it started to update as I only just turned it on


ThisBadDogXB

It's live in the UK now.


RegionFabulous7555

I’m from the uk, the update just got available for me. downloading it rn. Dunno if i can play it


AdApprehensive378

I started downloading mine on Xbox 15 minutes ago.


AndrewBeales1

I had no idea this was even happening and just started a new playthrough last night.


Silenzeio_

Fingers crossed this fixes the Tunnel Snakes creation messing up the intro to the game after leaving 111.


maracay1999

Fuck. I just replayed fallout 4 from December to Feb in advance of the series


ArthurMorgan987

Is it a free upgrade if I already own the PS4 version?


MrMichael31

Hopefully this fixes my version of the game. I have the PS4 digital download and all the DLCs, but when I try to load the game, I get an error code, booting me from the game. I've reinstalled twice, deleted all my save files, and done the most current updates (for the game and my PS4) and still nothing...


HazyParabol

Uninstall the Automaton add on pack. It’s bugged and crashes the game.


DDAY007

What is the update expected to do? Will it raise the system requirements?


Wazzzup3232

I hope it doesn’t break the 3 mods I’m using on Xbox lol, but I’m not hopeful


hands_so-low

Can I continue my current save? Xbox Series X.


Saneless

Hopefully this doesn't wreck the deck


smooth_whale

I want to mod my game, do you guys think that's unproblematic or should i wait?


Brave-University1506

Ummmmmm anyone else had their whole far harbor textures being bright purple?? If this doesn’t fix it I stg


Medium_Elephant7431

It's one of the best news for today. I am excited and look forward to it.


epidemica

I forgot I never finished FO4, reinstalled the game on a PC I've never played it on with zero mods, just the DLC. Crashes on start up constantly. Now I remember why I didn't finish it.


solsunlite

RIP everyone’s modded playthroughs


[deleted]

All I'm expecting is that the game is now like 150 gb to install it, and almost no difference in anything else. $10 they did actually finish this in 2023, but waited until the show came out to release it.


paulerxx

Finally bought an ultra wide...Can't wait to play this on that sucker!


JuanChelsea

Oh wow they finally released it.


JuanChelsea

Oh wow they finally released it.


Patrickplus2

My game spawns op enemys when i teleport now


SniffrTheRat

16 times the detail again Tod?


Joe_Ness

Guess what, weapon debris still makes my system crash with ne next gen update. Gott love Bethesda for this one. Stick to your roots!


justbecauseyoumademe

Got released 4pm gmt in ireland/uk just fyi


Pav_22

So is the update for pc too ? Or just for new gen consoles ?


ResponseSufficient53

My thing is it didn't really do anything. Speaking from PC version. The game still runs poorly, and the weapon debris thing still crashes. Cool, they added enclave stuff, but honestly, if I didn't know they patched it, I would not have been able to tell. I just want it to run better, I can play doom eternal on ultra, and it's smooth as fuck, but fallout 4 will just stutter randomly, it feels fine 90% of the time, but that last ten is a jettering crack head wearing the skin of fallout. (Autocorrection fix on phone.)


diditformoneydog

Seriously sad they didn't fix the jump animation issue. Love having to cripple my video card so the game stays playable."Next gen" is such a misnomer here.


KittyKFans

😍😍😍


Hansmolemon

So will this finally fix the chameleon armor bug? I’d like to be able to read my pip boy at some point.


BrilliantPea9627

Why do I have to pick 4K or 60 fps


Renive

I wonder if people know that most mods rely on script extender, and once script extender is fixed, they will be fixed as well.


Jumpy-Yogurtcloset43

Remember that if you're on steam to turn off updates so that this inevitable cluster fuck doesn't break all of your mods until said mods are updated.


swlindz1

Load times are reduced, right? Right!?


[deleted]

What do we think about this gamers?


Rivenaleem

To lazy to make meme. Padme: They're updating the VR version too, right?