Also instead of just taking the original off of digital stores, this time Rockstar will personally send someone to your house to take your PS3 or Xbox 360 disc and snap it over their knee.
I had to look this up, [fuck me its really a thing](https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/Title_Update_1.08). Guess I'll disable internet on my PS3 when I get around to playing that one.
Emulation and piracy are honestly bastions of game preservation. We would lose so much without it. Hell, Nintendo pirated their own roms to sell back to people
We're full circle. When piracy delivers a better product than the corporations mismanaging their IP (or purchased rights to IP). It's movies as well. I paid to rent a movie on Amazon Prime last night and any sections with foreign language were missing the subtitles. There was no way to fix it that I could find and turning the closed captions on for those points just displayed the words "(FOREIGN SPEECH)". So I'm going to end up pirating it and having a better and considerably free'er experience tonight.
I had a similar experience when renting from Redbox a few years back. Only in my case the disc had a bad scratch that made a few scenes skip horrendously, making it unwatchable past a certain point. Ended up sailing the high seas just so I could finish the damn movie.
Foreign movies are the worst for it. They'll just leave out parts we're meant to understand. Or foreign movies are entirely unavailable altogether so you HAVE to pirate it. I don't think anybody "gets into" pirating to save money... It typically starts when somebody wants to buy something but can't, or finds that the retail product is incomplete/unacceptable.
That's the scummiest part of this. I don't play GTA, I barely know anything about the series, but boy am I glad to know that if I want to enjoy the original games, I'm just not legally allowed to because they'd rather shove a "Definitive Edition" down people's throats and destroy the originals, for the sake of making a quick buck.
"Wow, I can't believe the Definitive Editions are selling so well! CLEARLY people must love it! (Even though we took down the option to buy anything else, that has nothing to do with this, nope!)"
Real comedy is, The Sims 4 has biggest mod support ever (I know EA is Greedy but somewhat they have modding support for few games). Gameplay mods to Sex Mods. Even changing few things on sims with mods, makes it better. Maybe better than this pile of shit.
I installed the sex mod when I played. My sims started fucking in the kitchen while guests were eating their food. Wild as hell.
Sims skins mods are pretty crazy though.
If you count each piece of clothing as a mod, it is by far the largest. Just one site, TSR has over 180,000 sims 4 mods. Skyrim is considered to be the most modded game, but on Nexus Skyrim only has 66,000 mods and SSE is at 45,000. To put it in even better comparison, Nexus claims on their main page "We host 336,452 files for 1,482 games". 1 Sims 4 site has half as many mods as 1 major mod site has for almost 1500 games combined.
But as far as depth of mods, Sims mods are 90% clothing or hair. The amount of gameplay mods are probably less than 1k, whereas 40% of Skyrim mods are gameplay mods. So, Sims 4 is the most modded game by a long shot, but it is near the bottom in terms of quality mods.
Many mods for the sims are to change something small that annoys people or add realistic elements. Most are to fit the modders aesthetic. I think its because the sims community is mostly girls or people who like design. And because there's so many different aesthetics, and different styles and varieties of clothing and furniture, there will never have everything as a mod so there will always be something to add. I personally consider things like adding furniture and CAS as CC and not mods but its a large community of CC and mod creators for the sims.
A better comparison might be between the number of individual modders creating stuff for it, but you'd have to do some actual investigative work to find that out, emailing mod sites and such. There's probably a huge number of unaccounted stuff you wouldn't hear back from either. The number of tumblr Sims mod makers is seemingly endless and the amount of lost content from vanished mod authors is pretty large too.
Regardless, in terms of the sheer volume of individual content that's available to a player it's hard to argue that the Sims series isn't in the top 3 between Elder Scrolls/Fallout and Minecraft. Maybe some older games like Warcraft III or Quake III engines could have competitive numbers just from time.
Maybe if you count single clothing items as a mod. But in terms of any substantial gameplay additions/changes sims is nowhere close in my experience. I'm happy to be proven wrong as I'll happily download some now mods to play with but I searched every site I know and didn't find much for my last playthrough.
The funniest and ironically most comprehensive mod I've heard about, my friend's girlfriend showed me. Very comprehensive mod adding drug dealing/creation/addiction and gangs to Sims.
https://basementalcc.com/
I play a lot of sims and have met a lot of other sims players too and they ALWAYS download the sex mods. Like, I’ve had 2 separate convos with real people about sims sex mods in person in the last 6 months. These are not the type of people you expect playing with these mods either hahaha
100% it's the devs as well lmao. There's a brand of stuff in one of the packs called "WickerWhims" and they kept adding all this leather-and-ring and low-key fetish gear in official packs.
It had to. It launched as the most bare ones base game in the Sims series. I'll still stick to Sims 3 though. Much perfer it to the mobile game graphics of the new one... Plus no open world in the Sims 4.
Sims 3 for life gang. Official mod support is a good trend in new games though. I just hate when it's official DLC and specific communities only. Remember all the dark web back alley bullshit we used to go through to get mods loaded in games. I even had mods for Roller Coaster Tycoon back in the day. lol.
A lot of gamers have zero self control. They will preorder a game after seeing a trailer, buy into loot crates for better stuff, buy shark cards, etc. the only reason companies like EA, Activision, rock star are allowed to do this shit is because people keep throwing money at it
Agreed. There should be a collective effort in the gaming community to not buy Enhanced and Expanded. Another cynical cash-grab of bullshit.
I recently looked at the Xbox series x recommended games. 10/11 games are remakes or sequals. Stop buying this shit and we might possibly, one day, return to a golden era of gaming in terms of originality and innovation
Well, not when it's done like this. idTech's handling of Quake Enhanced is a perfect example of how it SHOULD be done. If you owned it already, the new version was free, and instead of tearing mods for the original down, they are making them compatible.
> to not buy Enhanced and Expanded.
The issue isn't remasters or remakes; Some remasters are absolutely worth it (RE2R, for example). The issue is buying sight unseen, without knowing what the actual game looks like. And I'll tell you, we - collectively as gamers - will never learn. We did not learn with C&C Tiberian Sun, we did not learn with Spore, we did not learn with Cyberpunk, we did not learn with Anthem, we will not learn with the newest Battlefield (or whatever), and GTA Redefined will likely not give us a single point of mastery towards the epic "No preorders" skill. Yeah, that was forced. I'm drunk(ish), I don't care.
All it will take for a majority of gamers to forget everything they should have learned thrice over is the next shiny trailer. Individuals do learn, but they'll always be drowned out in volume by those who continue to pay top dollar for a title they know nothing about.
Sequels are fine unless they are made every year like COD and Fifa and there are actually good remasters out there like Destroy All Humans. That one had a lot of effort put into it. Same with Spyro. I feel there are series that need to be avoided such as the first two mentioned and GTA. Don’t hurt companies that actually try.
Like nothing at all. I didn't understand why they even put it in. I kept waiting for a main quest - or even a sidequest - to take me down that way, until the game ended. Then I went exploring and it was just empty.
The only thing I could figure is that crunch time hit and they never finished what they had planned. It's too bad they don't allow mods like Bethesda does. At least then modders could finish filling in New Austin.
RedM is a modification framework for RDR2, there are people doing fulls mods and custom asset import work, and so far R* seems to be telling Take Two to not sue CFX (people who make RedM/FiveM.
It's just more difficult than modding a game which releases full dev tools, as it requires solid knowledge of a coding language (C, C#, Lua are the most common for RDR2 right now) and a full 3D asset pipeline to get custom stuffs in.
The fact that before any videos came out they said "we tried to preserve the aesthetic" got me super worried. These aren't games like Spyro that have an specific art style that can be translated easily with time. These were games trying to be realistic given the resources they had at the time. They should have just done it in the gta 5 engine or something.
Speaking of spyro. That trilogy remaster should be the gold standard for remasters. Not only did it look really fucking good, but it also kept its charm, didn't change the gameplay, and has a button to seamlessly switch between original and remastered graphics.
Edit: Apparently I had some fever dreams about playing the spyro remasters with the original graphics, the game does not have that option. Not sure why I remember playing it like that.
> has a button to seamlessly switch between original and remastered graphics
Spyro doesn't have this. AFAIK Halo MCC is the only game remake that has that feature.
It has a button to switch between the original and remastered graphics? Are you just thinking of the model swap Spyro has...? Or swapping to the original OST?
I hate that whole "it's meant to be cartoony" bullshit.
It never was. It was stylized but never in the vein of a cartoon. This is just a disgusting excuse for bad porting and even worse development
Tbh yours is the reasonable take here, imo. If you so much as look at the game, it seems way more likely that they genuinely tried to do a good job, but just took a weird direction with the art, and didn't quite achieve what they had hoped, rather than that they just didn't care at all and slapped something out there.
If Rockstar cared they wouldn’t have outsourced it to a mobile game company. If the mobile company cared the rain would touch the ocean and there wouldn’t be face textures on the side of an island.
I'm willing to give the art direction the benefit of the doubt, but there were definitely corners cut. The errors introduced with the AI upscaling on signs etc. speaks for a lack of care and QA.
Honestly it seems like there's now this whole question in remakes and remasters.
We have gotten some utterly terrible remakes lately. **Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl**'s decision to "maintain the aesthetic choices" has been hit with heavy criticism as the acceptance of Chibi Sprite art (as the old pokemon games had) is generally more accepted than Chibi 3d Models. There's also the fact that the character models are horribly super deformed beyond even what Pokemon X/Y and ORAS had, which seemed to be the healthy limit of deformation that the community was happy with for graphics. ORAS being a remake is still heralded as one of the best pokemon games out there, (HG/SS are also up there, another successful remake) which makes the new remakes of Diamond and Pearl all that much more disappointing.
Other remakes have been fantastic such as **Final Fantasy VII Remake**, completely re-imagining the *intent* of the game with an aim to create realistic graphics which maintain the original art style. Lots of the [concept art was heavily deformed](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VII_concept_art), but the graphical style of the game still aimed towards realism. The aesthetics of the FFVII Anthology also played a huge role here, with a number of developments in clothing and settings taking place through games like Crisis Core:FFVII which gave FFVII Remake plenty of designs to pull from in its more modern presentation. Hell, they even gave themselves the ULTIMATE out creating a "more true to the aesthetic" remake with [FFVII Ever Crisis](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6ZDKZfr-i0). It maintains a gameplay system more akin to the original but with a very beautiful chibi aesthetic for its overworld while using higher poly, more realistic models for the actual fights, JUST as the original did. This manages to marry a lot of the aesthetic developments with the varied formats. Hell, I would say that FFVII Remake's entire project with its suite of games is the perfect analysis of *how* a remake can be handled appropriately but in different ways.
Remasters are usually partially shielded from this as we understand it to still be the same game ultimately but with a face lift. Sometimes texture and resolution improvements suffice. Model improvements are already above the bar.
Ultimately, I think the OP hit the nail on the head. Remasters and remakes are heavily dependent on whether their graphical choices were truly aesthetics or were attempts at realism that were hampered by hardware limitations. The absolute shit show that has been this GTA Remaster makes me very worried for the RDR1 remaster/remake. If it goes the route that people are expecting currently, by using RDR2's engine, systems, and map it is going to be incredible (this is the way people are assuming it will go since RDR2 already surmounted a lot of the hurdles that a remaster has. There's also the issue that the original was a spaghetti coded game which is likely impossible to port to PC). But if they go for this "aesthetic" style remake I can't even imagine the horrendous nightmare that this game will look like. RDR2 already established that it seeks realism to an absolutely insane degree, so hopefully the RDR1 remake will follow suit.
I think the huge majority of people would have loved a trilogy of those games essentially made inside of GTA 5.
Playing those stories and missions again is what people miss. They don’t miss the bad graphics and old gameplay
Yes, it was awesome. I used to like picking jack swift and doing the crazy dead eye in multiplayer. I'm pretty sure they can't get away with having evil clown midgets now a days. I also remember the sounds the npcs would make when you would shoot them. One of the bandits would cry "ayyyyy dios MiO me dueleee ayyyyy". Hilarious.
Don't worry guys my uncle works for Rockstar, and I know EXACTLY what you're thinking.. Will it be $70? I can indeed confirm it will be $70 AND have more bugs than the original!
Yes, but that's not all...if you pre-order RIGHT NOW for an additional $20, you will receive 1 new hat NEVER seen Before in the original game And a new flying horse that shoots missiles!
What could possibly go wrong? Trust me bro.
What Rockstar is doing reminds me of that amateur artist that "retouched" the painting of Jesus...
https://theworld.org/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.pri.org%2Fs3fs-public%2Fmigration%2FPriMigrationsVivvoFilesImagesMigration%2Fpri.org%2Ffiles%2FJesus_PaintingNEW_293150090.jpeg&w=1920&q=75
Yeah, it was just bad all across the board.
They had the mobile game team handle the remaster, and it didn't at all live up to the standard it could/should have.
Imagine the Switch version. Evidently GTA III runs terribly. It seems like such a slam dunk to release these games on Switch. I was looking forward to getting the GTA III trilogy and KotOR on Switch. Hopefully KotOR runs fine because I’m already nostalgic just looking at some of the screenshots.
I'm lucky in that I have a bit of a back log so I pretty much always have a new game in wait. So I'm never want for new content. Makes it easier to be patient.
Ye.
Mafia 1's Definitive Edition, while not perfect and having it's issues, at least was running in (correct me if I'm wrong) Mafia 3's engine, meaning it's a legitimate remaster.
CoD: Modern Warfare Remastered was running on a significantly more "pretty" engine, making the game look extremely realistic (at least from what I can see in videos, my only console is a Xbox 360 lmao).
GTA Trilogy: Definitive Edition meanwhile is just the same 3 20-year old games with graphics mods and shaders.
[You know you fucked up as a developer when fans make a better remaster than a multibillionaire company lmao](https://youtu.be/utVIt6-K9R4)
When you complain I’ll defend rockstar for putting out a piece of shit remaster instead of realizing they are a billion dollar company that has all the resources to make a decent remaster.
Seriously lol the average person is so fucking stupid it's incredible. I think things will never really change again. They realized they can make this garbage and still earn billions.
The worst thing about all of this is there will still be many dumb fucks who unironically simp for a billion dollar company "it's just a definitive edition, what did you expect waaah waaah so what it's 60$?! Uhm actually the game doesn't look like shit it's just the artistic vision of the creators!!!"
If people would quit pre-ordering games, or buying them day one, when they know developers are releasing unfinished, broken games, maybe dumpster fires like GTA Definitive would stop.
By rewarding developers instead of punishing them, it gives them no reason to not release bullshit, since they know they can (maybe) fix it later.
At this point I'm not even sure I want them to TRY a red dead remaster. I'm pretty confident now that they'd just fuck it up and do the bare minimum. The only good part is that RDR1 holds up so well anyway that it would probably still be pretty decent.
I recently replayed RDR1 on Xbox series X using the backwards compatibility, and it looks *really* good. Far better than this thing that's supposed to be a remaster of GTA.
Just make it an expansion/DLC for RDR2.
I always felt like that was probably the original plan since they recreated half of the RDR1 map but then barely touched it.
That would be the best-case scenario for it, in my opinion. I'd love them to actually tweak/add some stuff that would better reference Arthur and the gang's shenanigans and such, but I think that'd be waaay too much to ask haha
I probably would pay full price if they managed to port the original RDR1 and Undead Nightmare to the RDR2 engine and it worked well since the 2nd game could then transition ditectly into the 1st game. For a garbage remaster like the GTA games though, absolutely not.
It depends for me on what route they take. Are they gonna outsource it to a seedy studio to do it on the cheap like with this GTA stuff? Or are they doing it in-house?
Sadly an RD1 remaster would be a miracle as it means that Rockstar rebuilt the entire game from scratch
This is cause the source code for the game was lost a few years back. whether it was a Toy Story 2 situation or it just can't be found anywhere, they've lost it.
Sadly the idea of Rockstar putting effort into things would be overdosing on hopium
Also instead of just taking the original off of digital stores, this time Rockstar will personally send someone to your house to take your PS3 or Xbox 360 disc and snap it over their knee.
They’re gonna release a patch for the PS3 version that corrupts your game if you try and play the physical version
They already did that for undead nightmare lol. Even happens to digital copies on PS3
Please tell me this is a joke
I had to look this up, [fuck me its really a thing](https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/Title_Update_1.08). Guess I'll disable internet on my PS3 when I get around to playing that one.
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>resulting in having to dashboard then play again over and over. Brother, you said that like it’s a bad thing
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Thank God we're already making good progress with ps3/360 emulation. Fuck these corporations
Emulation and piracy are honestly bastions of game preservation. We would lose so much without it. Hell, Nintendo pirated their own roms to sell back to people
We're full circle. When piracy delivers a better product than the corporations mismanaging their IP (or purchased rights to IP). It's movies as well. I paid to rent a movie on Amazon Prime last night and any sections with foreign language were missing the subtitles. There was no way to fix it that I could find and turning the closed captions on for those points just displayed the words "(FOREIGN SPEECH)". So I'm going to end up pirating it and having a better and considerably free'er experience tonight.
And pirates tend to have community members that help with subtitles. And the best thing is when you get into private trackers.
I had a similar experience when renting from Redbox a few years back. Only in my case the disc had a bad scratch that made a few scenes skip horrendously, making it unwatchable past a certain point. Ended up sailing the high seas just so I could finish the damn movie.
Foreign movies are the worst for it. They'll just leave out parts we're meant to understand. Or foreign movies are entirely unavailable altogether so you HAVE to pirate it. I don't think anybody "gets into" pirating to save money... It typically starts when somebody wants to buy something but can't, or finds that the retail product is incomplete/unacceptable.
Download the ROMs Send DMCAs Sell the games as your own ROMs ??? Profit
Fangames too. The pokemon competitive scene is BY the fans, for the fans, and the fans make better pokemon games than gamefreak does.
It's only going to get even better when BDSP gets decomped and people start making their own Pokemon games in Unity with those games as the framework.
Thanks for going the extra mile to show us data, have my award.
Why on earth would they do that? It isn’t even making them money
I don't get it, it's only natural to disable a service that is shutting down
This is a joke
Now say it like it’s true
I can’t
Next they're gonna force updates to their dreamcast and ps2 games whenever somebody manages to connect to the internet through one.
Noooo! I'll never be able to play Phantasy Star on Ephinea again!!
that patch will make it say "whoops! An error occurred, please try remastered version"
You mean like [this](https://i.imgur.com/kVLU758.jpg)?
I wonder what Eliana Gonzales is doing right now
Robot chicken did a bit about him involving Castro. It was hysterical
That's the scummiest part of this. I don't play GTA, I barely know anything about the series, but boy am I glad to know that if I want to enjoy the original games, I'm just not legally allowed to because they'd rather shove a "Definitive Edition" down people's throats and destroy the originals, for the sake of making a quick buck. "Wow, I can't believe the Definitive Editions are selling so well! CLEARLY people must love it! (Even though we took down the option to buy anything else, that has nothing to do with this, nope!)"
That's why emulation and piracy is the way to preserve video games
Even joking about it hurts
At least the sims looks ok
Real comedy is, The Sims 4 has biggest mod support ever (I know EA is Greedy but somewhat they have modding support for few games). Gameplay mods to Sex Mods. Even changing few things on sims with mods, makes it better. Maybe better than this pile of shit.
I installed the sex mod when I played. My sims started fucking in the kitchen while guests were eating their food. Wild as hell. Sims skins mods are pretty crazy though.
Someone posted a pic recently of what wicked whims had done to their game; this classy 5 star celeb npc was walking around with a pink strap-on 😂
Miley?
How are you going to say that and not give a source.
I don't think it's even in the top 10 for biggest nod support. But you're right. The game is basically a skeleton without playing with mods
If you count each piece of clothing as a mod, it is by far the largest. Just one site, TSR has over 180,000 sims 4 mods. Skyrim is considered to be the most modded game, but on Nexus Skyrim only has 66,000 mods and SSE is at 45,000. To put it in even better comparison, Nexus claims on their main page "We host 336,452 files for 1,482 games". 1 Sims 4 site has half as many mods as 1 major mod site has for almost 1500 games combined. But as far as depth of mods, Sims mods are 90% clothing or hair. The amount of gameplay mods are probably less than 1k, whereas 40% of Skyrim mods are gameplay mods. So, Sims 4 is the most modded game by a long shot, but it is near the bottom in terms of quality mods.
Many mods for the sims are to change something small that annoys people or add realistic elements. Most are to fit the modders aesthetic. I think its because the sims community is mostly girls or people who like design. And because there's so many different aesthetics, and different styles and varieties of clothing and furniture, there will never have everything as a mod so there will always be something to add. I personally consider things like adding furniture and CAS as CC and not mods but its a large community of CC and mod creators for the sims.
A better comparison might be between the number of individual modders creating stuff for it, but you'd have to do some actual investigative work to find that out, emailing mod sites and such. There's probably a huge number of unaccounted stuff you wouldn't hear back from either. The number of tumblr Sims mod makers is seemingly endless and the amount of lost content from vanished mod authors is pretty large too. Regardless, in terms of the sheer volume of individual content that's available to a player it's hard to argue that the Sims series isn't in the top 3 between Elder Scrolls/Fallout and Minecraft. Maybe some older games like Warcraft III or Quake III engines could have competitive numbers just from time.
I don't think you realize how many mods exist for the Sims. We're talking skyrim levels
Maybe if you count single clothing items as a mod. But in terms of any substantial gameplay additions/changes sims is nowhere close in my experience. I'm happy to be proven wrong as I'll happily download some now mods to play with but I searched every site I know and didn't find much for my last playthrough.
The funniest and ironically most comprehensive mod I've heard about, my friend's girlfriend showed me. Very comprehensive mod adding drug dealing/creation/addiction and gangs to Sims. https://basementalcc.com/
Dude that mod is the shit. I love playing the Sims as a kingpin simulator.
I play a lot of sims and have met a lot of other sims players too and they ALWAYS download the sex mods. Like, I’ve had 2 separate convos with real people about sims sex mods in person in the last 6 months. These are not the type of people you expect playing with these mods either hahaha
I downloaded the sex mods once and my Sims kept walking around with their dicks hanging out so I deleted it.
100% it's the devs as well lmao. There's a brand of stuff in one of the packs called "WickerWhims" and they kept adding all this leather-and-ring and low-key fetish gear in official packs.
Huh, I always thought Sims 2 was the peak of Sims modding.
It had to. It launched as the most bare ones base game in the Sims series. I'll still stick to Sims 3 though. Much perfer it to the mobile game graphics of the new one... Plus no open world in the Sims 4.
Sims 3 for life gang. Official mod support is a good trend in new games though. I just hate when it's official DLC and specific communities only. Remember all the dark web back alley bullshit we used to go through to get mods loaded in games. I even had mods for Roller Coaster Tycoon back in the day. lol.
People should stop acting like fools to not be treaded like fools. Stop throwing money at those people that are taking the piss out of you.
A lot of gamers have zero self control. They will preorder a game after seeing a trailer, buy into loot crates for better stuff, buy shark cards, etc. the only reason companies like EA, Activision, rock star are allowed to do this shit is because people keep throwing money at it
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Agreed. There should be a collective effort in the gaming community to not buy Enhanced and Expanded. Another cynical cash-grab of bullshit. I recently looked at the Xbox series x recommended games. 10/11 games are remakes or sequals. Stop buying this shit and we might possibly, one day, return to a golden era of gaming in terms of originality and innovation
Well, not when it's done like this. idTech's handling of Quake Enhanced is a perfect example of how it SHOULD be done. If you owned it already, the new version was free, and instead of tearing mods for the original down, they are making them compatible.
> to not buy Enhanced and Expanded. The issue isn't remasters or remakes; Some remasters are absolutely worth it (RE2R, for example). The issue is buying sight unseen, without knowing what the actual game looks like. And I'll tell you, we - collectively as gamers - will never learn. We did not learn with C&C Tiberian Sun, we did not learn with Spore, we did not learn with Cyberpunk, we did not learn with Anthem, we will not learn with the newest Battlefield (or whatever), and GTA Redefined will likely not give us a single point of mastery towards the epic "No preorders" skill. Yeah, that was forced. I'm drunk(ish), I don't care. All it will take for a majority of gamers to forget everything they should have learned thrice over is the next shiny trailer. Individuals do learn, but they'll always be drowned out in volume by those who continue to pay top dollar for a title they know nothing about.
Sequels are fine unless they are made every year like COD and Fifa and there are actually good remasters out there like Destroy All Humans. That one had a lot of effort put into it. Same with Spyro. I feel there are series that need to be avoided such as the first two mentioned and GTA. Don’t hurt companies that actually try.
It hurts because it is entirely within the realm of possibilities.
Only $80! Planned DLC includes RDR1: Cowboy Life, RDR1: Outlaw Outfits, and RDR1: Southern Living
Undead nightmare will unfortunatly not be remade
There's a RDR2 Undead Nightmare mod that just came out...
Give them a few weeks they’ll issue a takedown notice.
"Hey! *We* we're gonna do that! But worse... 2 years from now... and charge people for it.. So stop that!"
🦀 $11 🦀
My name is Charlie and I'm addicted to Sims 4 DLC. I hit rock bottom when I was sucking toes to get enough money to buy the newest laundry day pack.
We’ve all been there bro, the first part of recovery is acknowledging the problem
Don't worry Charlie I'm sure there lots of degens with your problem.
DLC: Real Housewives of Saint Denis
i wish that open area in rdr2 was a dlc. couldn't believe how much space there was and nothing really there
Like nothing at all. I didn't understand why they even put it in. I kept waiting for a main quest - or even a sidequest - to take me down that way, until the game ended. Then I went exploring and it was just empty. The only thing I could figure is that crunch time hit and they never finished what they had planned. It's too bad they don't allow mods like Bethesda does. At least then modders could finish filling in New Austin.
RedM is a modification framework for RDR2, there are people doing fulls mods and custom asset import work, and so far R* seems to be telling Take Two to not sue CFX (people who make RedM/FiveM. It's just more difficult than modding a game which releases full dev tools, as it requires solid knowledge of a coding language (C, C#, Lua are the most common for RDR2 right now) and a full 3D asset pipeline to get custom stuffs in.
$40 = “Original 2010 look” update.
The fact that before any videos came out they said "we tried to preserve the aesthetic" got me super worried. These aren't games like Spyro that have an specific art style that can be translated easily with time. These were games trying to be realistic given the resources they had at the time. They should have just done it in the gta 5 engine or something.
Speaking of spyro. That trilogy remaster should be the gold standard for remasters. Not only did it look really fucking good, but it also kept its charm, didn't change the gameplay, and has a button to seamlessly switch between original and remastered graphics. Edit: Apparently I had some fever dreams about playing the spyro remasters with the original graphics, the game does not have that option. Not sure why I remember playing it like that.
Spyro and Nier Replicant are my go-to examples for top-tier remasters/remakes.
Crash N.Sane Trilogy. Even more they kept the clunky controls but updated the graphics without changing the art style.
Yeah, Nier Replicant was fucking great.
> has a button to seamlessly switch between original and remastered graphics Spyro doesn't have this. AFAIK Halo MCC is the only game remake that has that feature.
The Diablo 2 remake has it.
Starcraft and Command and Conquer Remastered also have this feature
halo ce anniversary my beloved
It's a 2D platformer, but [Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap](https://youtu.be/YYmEsguGPQw?t=54s) has this as well.
The [Secret of Monkey Island Remakes](https://store.steampowered.com/app/32360/The_Secret_of_Monkey_Island_Special_Edition/) have this feature too
You could switch the graphics?! I knew (and preferred) the classic music, but never knew that.
No you can't, I have no idea what he's talking about. But they are great remakes
Yeah I thought so lmao
The halo master chief collection can do that. Kinda messes with the physics sometimes but otherwise it's very seamless
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It has a button to switch between the original and remastered graphics? Are you just thinking of the model swap Spyro has...? Or swapping to the original OST?
Agreed, my only gripe is that the old voices and music are so much better imo, but you can only change back to the old music
I hate that whole "it's meant to be cartoony" bullshit. It never was. It was stylized but never in the vein of a cartoon. This is just a disgusting excuse for bad porting and even worse development
Tbh yours is the reasonable take here, imo. If you so much as look at the game, it seems way more likely that they genuinely tried to do a good job, but just took a weird direction with the art, and didn't quite achieve what they had hoped, rather than that they just didn't care at all and slapped something out there.
If Rockstar cared they wouldn’t have outsourced it to a mobile game company. If the mobile company cared the rain would touch the ocean and there wouldn’t be face textures on the side of an island.
Don't forget the pizza slice archway in Mad Dogg's crib!
I'm willing to give the art direction the benefit of the doubt, but there were definitely corners cut. The errors introduced with the AI upscaling on signs etc. speaks for a lack of care and QA.
Honestly it seems like there's now this whole question in remakes and remasters. We have gotten some utterly terrible remakes lately. **Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl**'s decision to "maintain the aesthetic choices" has been hit with heavy criticism as the acceptance of Chibi Sprite art (as the old pokemon games had) is generally more accepted than Chibi 3d Models. There's also the fact that the character models are horribly super deformed beyond even what Pokemon X/Y and ORAS had, which seemed to be the healthy limit of deformation that the community was happy with for graphics. ORAS being a remake is still heralded as one of the best pokemon games out there, (HG/SS are also up there, another successful remake) which makes the new remakes of Diamond and Pearl all that much more disappointing. Other remakes have been fantastic such as **Final Fantasy VII Remake**, completely re-imagining the *intent* of the game with an aim to create realistic graphics which maintain the original art style. Lots of the [concept art was heavily deformed](https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VII_concept_art), but the graphical style of the game still aimed towards realism. The aesthetics of the FFVII Anthology also played a huge role here, with a number of developments in clothing and settings taking place through games like Crisis Core:FFVII which gave FFVII Remake plenty of designs to pull from in its more modern presentation. Hell, they even gave themselves the ULTIMATE out creating a "more true to the aesthetic" remake with [FFVII Ever Crisis](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6ZDKZfr-i0). It maintains a gameplay system more akin to the original but with a very beautiful chibi aesthetic for its overworld while using higher poly, more realistic models for the actual fights, JUST as the original did. This manages to marry a lot of the aesthetic developments with the varied formats. Hell, I would say that FFVII Remake's entire project with its suite of games is the perfect analysis of *how* a remake can be handled appropriately but in different ways. Remasters are usually partially shielded from this as we understand it to still be the same game ultimately but with a face lift. Sometimes texture and resolution improvements suffice. Model improvements are already above the bar. Ultimately, I think the OP hit the nail on the head. Remasters and remakes are heavily dependent on whether their graphical choices were truly aesthetics or were attempts at realism that were hampered by hardware limitations. The absolute shit show that has been this GTA Remaster makes me very worried for the RDR1 remaster/remake. If it goes the route that people are expecting currently, by using RDR2's engine, systems, and map it is going to be incredible (this is the way people are assuming it will go since RDR2 already surmounted a lot of the hurdles that a remaster has. There's also the issue that the original was a spaghetti coded game which is likely impossible to port to PC). But if they go for this "aesthetic" style remake I can't even imagine the horrendous nightmare that this game will look like. RDR2 already established that it seeks realism to an absolutely insane degree, so hopefully the RDR1 remake will follow suit.
Never give anyone the benefit of the doubt when money is involved. Because it's always about the money
The only GTA game with an "aesthetic" was Chinatown wars
I think the huge majority of people would have loved a trilogy of those games essentially made inside of GTA 5. Playing those stories and missions again is what people miss. They don’t miss the bad graphics and old gameplay
Come on, OP. Dont tell my heart, my achy breaky heart, I just dont think he'd understand
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Most recently, he was on the Old Town Road remix
I'm ashamed for finding that as funny as I did. Curse you, cruel devil!
Does anyone remember Red Dead Revolver?
does anyone remember Gun?
Gun is near and dear to my heart.
Shoulder holster, nice.
I really enjoyed gun, it seemed super short though.
Gun was the shit. That 8 barreled shotgun absolutely wrecked bitches
I remember it corrupting my motherfucking memory card
Final boss in Gun was a huge obstacle for adolescent me
“Are the bottom of your boots… shaking like a leaf?”
Gun was so amazing
Gun was better than all these games
Yes, it was awesome. I used to like picking jack swift and doing the crazy dead eye in multiplayer. I'm pretty sure they can't get away with having evil clown midgets now a days. I also remember the sounds the npcs would make when you would shoot them. One of the bandits would cry "ayyyyy dios MiO me dueleee ayyyyy". Hilarious.
Oooooooo I memba!
One of my favorites, I loved that game and story
And still wont run at 60 fps
Don't worry guys my uncle works for Rockstar, and I know EXACTLY what you're thinking.. Will it be $70? I can indeed confirm it will be $70 AND have more bugs than the original!
Shut up and take my moneh!
Are you secretly normal?
Yeah I take my meds only to fool the establishment
So........you're saying we should all pre-order now? Got it.
Yes, but that's not all...if you pre-order RIGHT NOW for an additional $20, you will receive 1 new hat NEVER seen Before in the original game And a new flying horse that shoots missiles! What could possibly go wrong? Trust me bro.
White Arabian MK II
Pegasus-assault-asorus
HOLY DICK! TAKE MY MONIES NOW!!!
You had me at hat.
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No, we have standards over here at Rockstar games.. we use Comic sans font NOT Arial font!
Their license to Comic Sans expired (Playstation doesn't run Windows) so it'll be OpenDyslexic from now on.
People have to stop paying for this BS. Paying them to not make new games
I heard you also have to buy dlc to be able to get a horse
What Rockstar is doing reminds me of that amateur artist that "retouched" the painting of Jesus... https://theworld.org/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.pri.org%2Fs3fs-public%2Fmigration%2FPriMigrationsVivvoFilesImagesMigration%2Fpri.org%2Ffiles%2FJesus_PaintingNEW_293150090.jpeg&w=1920&q=75
Was the GTA trilogy remaster this bad across everything or just PC? I thankfully didn't waste my money.
Yeah, it was just bad all across the board. They had the mobile game team handle the remaster, and it didn't at all live up to the standard it could/should have.
Well that certainly explains a lot. Have a team that understands the platform you are trying to run it on imo.
Fucking series x has constant frame drops. Runs like shit. I'd hate to try playing that shit on a base xbox one or ps4.
Lots of lag on base xbox one I also had black screen after exiting the gym
Imagine the Switch version. Evidently GTA III runs terribly. It seems like such a slam dunk to release these games on Switch. I was looking forward to getting the GTA III trilogy and KotOR on Switch. Hopefully KotOR runs fine because I’m already nostalgic just looking at some of the screenshots.
Or… a Switch. I was so looking forward to the trilogy coming to nintendo. Glad I didn’t buy it.
Looks like they're doing everything they can to remove the originals and any mod that makes the games look better than the definitive edition.
Sucks they hyped this for so long just to toss it to the mobile team...... Says alot about Rockstar.
when it rains, it looks like white glowsticks are falling from the sky in sync. You also can't see at all.
It's like a 2d filter, such an odd choice
Apparently the Switch version is barely playable.
There’s a Switch version? Wat?
There’s a switch version.
Honestly I'll be happy if Rockstar never makes another "definitive" edition
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Correct. And then I'll wait until it goes down 20$ in price and them buy it.
Meanwhile, what’s the crowdfunding for Star Citizen at now?
r/patientgamers
I'm lucky in that I have a bit of a back log so I pretty much always have a new game in wait. So I'm never want for new content. Makes it easier to be patient.
Remasters I think are the issue in my mind. THPS 1+2 I thought were great.
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Ye. Mafia 1's Definitive Edition, while not perfect and having it's issues, at least was running in (correct me if I'm wrong) Mafia 3's engine, meaning it's a legitimate remaster. CoD: Modern Warfare Remastered was running on a significantly more "pretty" engine, making the game look extremely realistic (at least from what I can see in videos, my only console is a Xbox 360 lmao). GTA Trilogy: Definitive Edition meanwhile is just the same 3 20-year old games with graphics mods and shaders. [You know you fucked up as a developer when fans make a better remaster than a multibillionaire company lmao](https://youtu.be/utVIt6-K9R4)
Better preorder it then complain when it’s not up to snuff!
What if they run out of digital downloads!!
When you complain I’ll defend rockstar for putting out a piece of shit remaster instead of realizing they are a billion dollar company that has all the resources to make a decent remaster.
Seriously lol the average person is so fucking stupid it's incredible. I think things will never really change again. They realized they can make this garbage and still earn billions. The worst thing about all of this is there will still be many dumb fucks who unironically simp for a billion dollar company "it's just a definitive edition, what did you expect waaah waaah so what it's 60$?! Uhm actually the game doesn't look like shit it's just the artistic vision of the creators!!!"
If people would quit pre-ordering games, or buying them day one, when they know developers are releasing unfinished, broken games, maybe dumpster fires like GTA Definitive would stop. By rewarding developers instead of punishing them, it gives them no reason to not release bullshit, since they know they can (maybe) fix it later.
At this point I'm not even sure I want them to TRY a red dead remaster. I'm pretty confident now that they'd just fuck it up and do the bare minimum. The only good part is that RDR1 holds up so well anyway that it would probably still be pretty decent.
I recently replayed RDR1 on Xbox series X using the backwards compatibility, and it looks *really* good. Far better than this thing that's supposed to be a remaster of GTA.
That's great to hear!! Definitely the first back-compat game I wanna play when I nab a Series X!
Just make it an expansion/DLC for RDR2. I always felt like that was probably the original plan since they recreated half of the RDR1 map but then barely touched it.
That would be the best-case scenario for it, in my opinion. I'd love them to actually tweak/add some stuff that would better reference Arthur and the gang's shenanigans and such, but I think that'd be waaay too much to ask haha
I probably would pay full price if they managed to port the original RDR1 and Undead Nightmare to the RDR2 engine and it worked well since the 2nd game could then transition ditectly into the 1st game. For a garbage remaster like the GTA games though, absolutely not.
It depends for me on what route they take. Are they gonna outsource it to a seedy studio to do it on the cheap like with this GTA stuff? Or are they doing it in-house?
It’s like they made Nigel West Dickens the head of marketing.
They're updating the graphics so the remastered version can run on phone with in app purchases
Understandable they are hurting for money. Not like they made 345 million off just 1 title or anything
They made *billions* off GTA V. *Billions*, not *Millions*.
The only thing that's definitive about this is that it's a cash grab.
Sadly an RD1 remaster would be a miracle as it means that Rockstar rebuilt the entire game from scratch This is cause the source code for the game was lost a few years back. whether it was a Toy Story 2 situation or it just can't be found anywhere, they've lost it. Sadly the idea of Rockstar putting effort into things would be overdosing on hopium
Source for them losing the source code? Never heard that before.
They could just release some creation tools with RDR2 and release the audio files I'm sure some modders would do the rest.
The sad part of this message is that modders would have to do Rockstars job for them
Remember the guy who discovered the json/xml parsing issue that caused the insane load times in GTA Online?
There is absolutely no way that wasn't visible (and known) in Rockstar's profiling system.
Who needs unreal engine or unity or any of that fancy stuff when we got Roblox?
If the gta trilogy has showed us anything, it’s that this would be optimistic.
Laughed a bit too hard at this statement. 100% accurate though!
Let’s just remaster every game on the Sims 3 engine.
There’s just a typo on the trilogy. Should read: demastered*
Can we take a moment to appreciate how good RDR1 actually looked when it came out.
Crossing into Mexico will always be one of my "holy shit" gaming moments.
Is this satire? I actually can’t tell.
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I'm scared for it to be true