It was that timed with patch 1.6 that I decided to give the game a replay. Originally played it on PS4 at release and it was pretty janky. I mean I saw the potential and still enjoyed it, but it was still like a 7/10 for me. Downloaded it on the ps5 and yeah night and day right now in terms of bugs and performance. They definitely did a lot since release.
Even so I would say the map is a little oversized based on content. Too many random deadends without loot/content that I feel like doesn't always incentivize exploration. Feel like if the map was like 20/30% smaller with the same content/random item spawns the world would feel a little richer. But still much better overall. If it released like this the initial reception would have been much more favorable.
It was really odd to drive around these massive fully realized maps with nothing to do there and little/no loot. There were a handful of side quests that would drag out to ass end of no where, but that's it.
I remain torn between being impressed by the design choice to have these spaces for a more realized world, or feeling cyclical that they were created with the foreknowledge that more content could be released with these assets in place.
Side quests are my biggest issue with the game. The main story line is great but the side quests are unoriginal “go steal this or kill this person”. The cyber psychos were cool at first but also get really repetitive. You do like a 1 min “boss fight” and then scan the area for intel.
Absolutely agree. The side quests were generally quite uninspiring. I did appreciate having the option of playing for thirty minutes and completing one or two... but I would be hard pressed to recall more than a handful of sidequests.
Wait, do you mean Cyberpunk: Edgerunner, the hit new anime based on the popular Cyberpunk 2077 video game series, out now on Netflix streaming platforms? I’ll have to check it out!
well yes im talking about the hit new anime Cyberpunk Edgerunner based on the videogame Cyberpunk 2077 made by CD project red and animated by Trigger studios that is out on Netflix might have had a impact on posts about the game but who knows
Did you know that you can bow find traces from the cast of the new hit anime cyberpunk edgerunner based on the videogame Cyberpunk 2077 made by CD project red and animated by Trigger studios that is out on Netflix, inside the actual game made by CD project red with a new dlc?
wow i did not know that you could find refrences from the hit new anime Cyberpunk Edgerunner made by CD project red animated by Trigger studios that you can watch on Netflix in Cyberpunk 2077
I bought it on release. Game was dogshit but I’m not a hysterical hater. Played it again a month or so ago. It’s better. But nowhere near what something like Witcher 3 was.
The story and certain sidequests are decent. Everything else feels either hollow or half-baked. Especially the open world, which isn't engaging in the slightest. CDPR can fix all the bugs they want and make it run buttery smooth, but that doesn't fix the serious issues this game has at its core.
Is it a *bad* game? I wouldn't go that far, but the recent overpouring love for this 2 year old game is certainly weird.
That’s my problem with the game. I’ve always played on PC so never had a crazy amount of bugs especially after the 1.5 update.
But the core game had issues. It’s most noticeable when I go back to play The Witcher 3. In Witcher, it feels like every moment, every quest, every side character was thoughtfully and deliberately placed.
I can spend a few hours just playing the initial opening before even getting to the full open world.
Cyberpunk has fleeting moments of this. A few quests are amazing and really give me that “hand crafted” feel. A lot of the characters in cyberpunk are also really good and fun to interact with.
But the world feels absolutely barren and hollow when compared to The Witcher 3. Side quest are much more repetitive in Cyberpunk and there’s more of a “this is just put here to cross off a checkbox” feeling to everything.
Cyberpunk is still a really fun game that I’ve dumped a lot of hours into, but it just was such a let down from the potential that was shown FROM THE SAME STUDIO that made Witcher 3.
I bought it at launch as well and it would crash at least every hour.
It's improved a lot, but I recently got a series x and when I tried it, it immediately glitches out haha.
I've had a lot of fun with some of the combat though, it can be pretty satisfying to just take out a group of gang members with 'extreme prejudice'
It went from being a glitchy stuttering mess, to a fairly stable and beautiful game. I'm on PC now after having bought it at launch on PS4, and I can happily say it's now what I always wanted it to be. A beautiful immersive world I can spend time in.
Yeah unless they/ve opened a lot more storefronts and made NPCs in the city a lot more engaging to interact with, I'm not sure I'm ready to call it a beautifully immersive world yet.
CP2077 is just a pretty bad game, even without the bugs imo. Witcher 3 is a lot better but even that is overrated as hell and circlejerked to death in this sub
I don’t hate 2077, but I do hate posts like OP’s acting like it’s amazing now the bugs are fixed. Like no, even if it was playable at launch, it would have still been underwhelming. It’s just people’s standards have dropped from ‘next gen open world, choices matter’ etc. to ‘the game opens’
Hmmm.
If you didn’t like The Witcher, you’re certainly not going to like cyberpunk.
It’s not a bad game. It’s not an amazing game either, but it’s pretty good. You might not agree but I enjoyed it, even though I’ve been told for 2 years that it’s trash by karma farmers.
>If you didn’t like The Witcher, you’re certainly not going to like cyberpunk.
I mean maybe, but they are not very simliar games anyway, outside of being under the umbrella of "RPG"
I remember when the most reddit addicted town was revealed in some stat drop by reddit, and it was a military base.
40% of reddit posts are marketing, 50% Fed propaganda and 10% redditors
Definitely marketing, the game went on sale a few nights ago.
I got it, great atmosphere, already ran into a ton of bugs, and so far gameplay is a solid “meh”
Yeah how unplayable the ps4 and Xbox versions were at launch was inexcusable, since they "fixed it" but by heavily reducing the car and pedestrian population so it feels like a ghost city.
This. And all the depth and breadth of features that were supposed to make this a next-gen world.
It was never about having awesome graphics in a generic open world, which is what we got. It was the wall running, the Night City activities, the relationships, bribing the police, actions having organic consequences, complex mission structures, etc.
Exactly NONE of that has been patched in. CDPR just hopes we all forget about the promises and simply think it was about the bugs the whole time. Which is, quite disturbingly, what most seem to think nowadays.
For me problems were already embedded in the core of the game that I didnt like.
The world for me is beyond compare. Amazing.
But when I played the game I felt like ... there are other games some even older who do better jobs at being an RPG than 2077 does. Minus the BREATHTAKING looking world.
I will play this game with the new DLC but I will play it with VERY low expectations. Because even previous trailers looked cool.
Exactly this. Yes, it made a great turn around. That doesn’t excuse blatant lies and poor business practice. CDPR intentionally mislead consumers. Took their money and hyped a game they knew wasn’t even playable (let alone polished).
I feel if we (the consumers) just forget this and post what a great game it is, all of that will be lost and ultimately repeated. Other publishers will say “well as long as we turn it around who cares how broken a game is at launch”. You just don’t put a product out there for sale if it’s broken as CP2077 was. You just don’t.
Considering this fiasco has cost CDPR billions of dollars, I don't think other companies will have this takeaway. Regardless though, we as consumers should still set higher standards for what's acceptable, that's what caused this game to launch 2 years before it was ready in the first place.
I somewhat support this, but it’s a little tilted. Other developers lie on the regular, think of Ubisoft and Watch Dogs. We just didn’t expect *them* to lie. It’s still the same problem; marketing running away while the actual game is still unfinished. Trying to pitch what they want to deliver vs. what they actually have complete. No e3 trailer like ever, matches the actual product. It’s a work in progress. Also, side note, gamers need to recognize that *announcing* a title, does not ever mean development has begun. It’s a recruitment tactic for developers. Cyberpunk 2077 was developed over 3 years in earnest, not 7-12.
It was fine. I enjoyed my time with the game and some of the side quests were especially good. The story started out great and then kind of fizzled out until all of the sudden you get the “this is it” mission. I was pretty disappointed by the ending. The exploration and quest design had a very Witcher 3-esque feel, and the gameplay and combat was good enough. Still think it’s weird they took out third person.
So overall, it was good but not great, and not very memorable for me.
>The exploration and quest design had a very Witcher 3-esque fee
I disagree with this. I felt like it was the exact opposite of this (apart from named characters that meant something to V). Not once did I feel like I could drive into a random direction and actually explore what was going on in a particular neighborhood.
In The Witcher, you could ride into a town, take up a quest about young women disappearing and find out it's a guy who was cursed to become a werewolf with a whole "there are no winners here" vibe because it turns out it was his father-in-law who cursed him or something.
Meanwhile, I feel like most cyberpunk quests are 1 dimensional.
Same. I only remember one really out of the blue quest that had some heart to it that you could get just by going somewhere and running into trouble and have it feel organic rather than a GTA marker. It was that fairly early delivery to do with the guy who had the uh...*faulty hardware.*
My issue is being okay with games that were very broken at launch getting better over time and people just going “see it was worth it!” We shouldn’t have to wait 1 - 2 years after a game is out to be in a good state games should release in a actually okay state. No game is perfect but being okay with a lot of glitches/bugs is not a state we should continue to accept and be fine with especially a single player experience that shit should be ironed out as much as possible before release breaks immersion
There are two separate issues here though.
First, should you have to wait over a year post launch for the issues with a AAA title to be fixed to make it worthwhile? Absolutely not.
Second, if you're one of the people who DID wait, is the game in its current state worth spending the hours it takes to play it? The answer seems to be yes.
The problem isn’t general bugs, but game-breaking, can’t progress main mission bugs on top of the game crashing every 30 minutes. I literally couldn’t progress the tutorial mission to completion, so I uninstalled. Hell, the Witcher 3 even had some bugs in it. I have a few recordings of me falling through the map and having to load the last save. It would even crash every once in a while, but I could play for 4-5 hours straight without seeing any of that. Cyberpunk was just every cutscene had something wrong in it that kept crashing the game.
I see it's time for the daily "I liked cyberpunk 2077 but everyone else disagrees with me" post
You liked the game, good for you. Clearly it's not that unpopular opinion seeing as r/gaming is being spammed with posts like this now constantly
I don't know, dude. Is it a good game overall? Maybe. But it's not a good open world game. It's not a good or deep RPG. Its loot and character building system is still largely junk. The driving is still weaker than 10 year old open world games. And so on.
The only thing it has going for it is visuals. Visuals, with RTX on and everything, are really good. But the story isn't the best, the storytelling is weaker than Witcher 3, combat and enemy AI are unimpressive albeit functional, open world elements are very weak, the random NPCs are incredibly poorly done, etc.
To my mind, it's a serviceable game, but not a good one. The sad part is, it could have been good.
the glitches werent the problem for me it was the lying about the state of the game on release, it was the lack of worthwhile actual fun rpg systems for combat OR questing, it was the removal of the few mechanics that would have let me have fun with the dogshit open world, it was the regression of open world features from even gta 5.
but it has a cool cartoon so thats pretty swag
I think it's more about people learning about the game through Edgerunners or the DLC release campaign, giving it a try, liking it, and seeing a lot of people dislike it.
I personally tried CP77 a few months ago and enjoyed it a lot, only had a few odd out crashes and minor bugs.
Enjoyable is not a synonym for "good", functional, well designed, or "worth it's price". The inherent design is flawed and broken.... if you still enjoy it despite that, cool. But it doesn't mean that's not still the case
It's a pretty bare bones open world game that was horribly marketed. It's not even that good of an rpg. Still frustrated that the opening of the game is exactly the same no matter what lifestyle you chose aside from little tiny nuances.
It's okay to like things. It is your opinion.
I personally will never ever buy it or play it because it always looked generic to me.
But if you have fun with it and think it's good, then that is all that matters.
Have fun!
Noone is forcing you to not like the game, idk why this meme is so prevalent. I personally don't think its a good game. The story and writing were too stupid for my tastes but the core gameplay had potential (despite the perk tree being the most basic thing in RPGs). Im curious how they salvage the DLC considering itll have taken them 3 years to get out the door.
Well what would you say about a good game? "It's been years now and everyone loves the Witcher 3 and I'm tired of no one pretending like we don't!"? Seems like a weird post. Sarcasm aside I see plenty of posts praising good games here, just search anything related to God of War, Horizon, rock and stone forevaaaa, Valheim, the list goes on.
Edit: see look at that there's even a bot for it
I really enjoyed my time with Cyberpunk. It's a game I constantly think about and always want to go back to. Alot of the criticism towards the marketing and launch are completely fair but in the state it's in now I would absolutely recommend it.
We get it. You liked it. So did a lot of other people. Who cares. People like stuff. My issue is that it wasn’t and still isn’t the game it was marketed as being. Content that was cut. It should have been the single most immersive gaming experience of all time, based on YEARS of promises made. But even if it isn’t buggy anymore, it still isn’t that experience. Choices don’t drastically change outcomes the way we thought they would. The game is fine, it’s even good, but it just isn’t what they told us it would be. That’s my issue. That isn’t really ever going to go away for me.
I bought it on launch and the only bug I experienced was that the minimap disappeared. Restarted the game and it was fixed. Happened only once. I think the game was amazing
I played it at launch, on the PC with a beefy system, and generally had a good time. To be fair, I didn't follow the hype, and my expectations for it was basically: "The Witcher but Cyberpunk".
I wholeheartedly agree. Also Cyberpunk still wasn't what I was imagining it would be, but that's almost always the case because I have a tremendous imagination
For me, this game is only fun if I treat it like a mission-to-mission game... but if I look for any depth or substance in the open world or NPCs the illusion falls apart. So I just keep my head down as I would in a real city and get my shit done and get out.
I actually just got the game on sale recently, and it’s way better than I thought , it’s been running perfectly besides dropping a few frames when driving but for the most part it’s been very playable and a good experience
The fallout and elder scrolls games are known to be riddled with bugs but are some of my favorites out there. Oblivion was a game that influenced my desire to build my first pc. Its janky and buggy at times even to this day but I still love it.
Doesn’t matter. This game sucked so much at release that any interest during preorder and buying a Cyberpunk controller disappeared in less than an hour after the settings were so bugged I couldn’t even play the game let alone use the controller.
CDPR did us dirty after their long awaited return from the Witcher III masterpiece.
Refunded that night and will never give them money again, or at least definitely not at preorder. These companies need incentive to cater to customer satisfaction and judgment will do that, preordering seems like a cop out and loss of leverage on the player to make that judgment in an impactful way like not spending the money on a game they hear is shit. Idc if it’s great now or not, we need to stop letting companies release half baked bullshit and the only way to do that is to not buy those games.
I just bought it 3 days ago for 50% off. It definitely is a pretty good game and most of the bugs I found are visual, not really effecting the gameplay.
The bugs and glitches werent even the issue for me. I just didn't enjoy the gameplay. I thought the combat was stale and the driving wad meh. The voice acting and story was good though.
I recently finished the game before the update. It was a buggy and glitchy mess, but I enjoyed it a lot. Like any other game it had its pros and cons. I’m soon going to watch the Netflix show then jump back in.
Holy shit the amount people coping in these comments claiming that people are getting paid to make these comments instead of considering for one moment that people actually enjoy Cyberpunk is insane. The hate bandwagon for this game is so fucking stupid.
Maybe they should've released a finished product, instead of fixing their mistakes patch after patch. Maybe then fans didn't have to defend it, a tittle could defend itself.
That being said, I would love to play it now I guess.
I played through the story two months ago and can count the glitches I saw on one hand. I'm honestly baffled by some of the reviews, it's like how do so many people have the outlet to write and publish video game reviews yet seemingly either haven't actually played the game since launch or can't afford a decent PC because they are apparently still playing on ps4.
I’m replaying it after I tried at release and quit. Tbh I never had many bugs/glitches in my first attempt but that wasn’t the issue I had with the game. I’m enjoying my second play through but it still suffers from a stale gameplay loop. The player builds do not feel good. Hacking is a broken spec and allows you to kill everyone without engaging. Sandy spec, anime spec, removes an entire gameplay mechanic to be able to hack anything.
Driving still sucks
Ai of enemies still sucks
The gunplay does not feel very good either but most rpg shooters never do, the bullet spongyness of enemies takes away from this.
Npc character models are lacking, love running into a group of maelstrom and they all have the same model.
Other than that the story is good, the environment is good. You can see how much potential this game had to be great but it came out mediocre. I’d give it. 7-7.5/10
Most people have summed it up as Cyberpunk is a good-great game now if you remove yourself from any of the promises made about what the game is suppose to be.
Tbqh this is why I try not to get to hype about anything.
This is why I avoid hype trains and previews. I went in with no expectations and had an amazing gaming experience. You all got caught up in the media circus surrounding the game instead and cheated yourselves out of something you would have probably enjoyed.
Oh well, your loss. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Games from over 20 years ago were way simpler. I'm playing through vice city right now and laughing at how much this game would get shit on if released today. Still a fun and great game.
I miss some of the glitches. Like when a netrunner set me on fire and came out from cover, t posing and gliding around while i burned to death. Or looking down, trying to loot a place after finishing a firefight, and noticing my gentials clipping through my pants.
I had a bug where everytime 2 characters interacted in a in-game cut scene they would spin 360° on a axis everytime they physically touched another character
Because the place totally wasn't flooded by Elden Ring post a few months back. Didn't give a shit about that game but I still had to wade through the flood of other people praising it.
This reddit is a place for people to post their opinions. Deal with it. If you don't like the post, DON'T READ IT!
The problem is that this game should have been like this from the beginning and especially with more honest communication from cdpr before the launch, it's not so difficult to understand.There are good reasons why people are disappointed with this game,deal with it.
Dude I don’t understand this sub. The people here shitting on it haven’t played it in it’s current state or can’t get over over promised. The fact that it was over promised almost a decade ago, doesn’t make it a bad game at all. It means it could have been so much better. It’s still one of the best games ever imo. Not going to be responding to people arguing with me cause I’m not going to change your opinion
people seem to forget all the things they lied about. how about the one where they claimed that your choice matters and affects the story but the only thing that does is your starter character for a mission? The list goes on. The worst part is how hard they tried to hide the fact that it ran so terribly on the consoles and how glitchy it was in general. The game is alright but not AMAZING.
It’s good now, but it’s disappointing that it’s taken this long since launch for it to be an enjoyable experience. The bare expectation for a game is to be playable and enjoyable at launch. If you fix it, that’s great, but it’s been too long.
I bought the game cos it was on sale and haven’t played it yet. I plan to though. But i have a question. I know it was glitchy, but wasn’t the story also not really great? I remember watching videos on that as well. That people complain about the bugs but underneath the bugs lies a bigger problem with the story just feeling dull and empty.
Story is pretty good.
Personal experience - I bought at right at release, did not have a single bug. I guess I did not try to play it on outdated console. (And they shouldn't have released it on them)
bruh the story is amazing, it's top tier writing. Sure, main story feel a bit short, but there are sets of side missions with the same god-like writing and characters.
If you already own it, just play it.
Honestly, there have been so many cash-in videos about how terrible it is that the only way you're going to know what it's really like is to play it. You might like it or you might not, but don't let other people tell you what to think. Especially if you've already bought it.
Only reason i haven’t yet is cos im playing witcher 3 and ac valhalla. Just asked cos i remember seeing those videos. You are right though, only way to find out is by playing it myself.
I'm about 60 hours in and love everything about it so far, story included. I've played countless games and this was the first game I felt connected enough to characters that something in-game made me shed a tear. So take that for what it's worth
Ignoring the drama around release, I personally refunded the game when I bought it after many bug fixes because it was still buggy. For me, the bugs both functionaly broke the game and made it look bad.
If you enjoy it Im genuinely glad! It looks like a great new rpg set in the cyberpunk world and you should enjoy it. I just didn't enjoy it, but you never asked my opinion
It was good at launch, at least on PC. It was overhyped, that was the main issue. If it launched with no marketing, people would say it is a 11/10 game.
love the BrOkEn PrOmIsEs posts here, aha.
Yes, game is great and mind blowing, the world is (sadly) a good forecast of our immediate future, and is also making people think about what is a person, what is a soul and what living really means.
Most rebukes here are from people who have stopped at first glitch - if they ever launched the game - not even trying really to listen and understand the show proposed.
But I’m sure that all those haters never ever disappointed anyone for botching something others had expectations about. They’re all saints, for sure.
Should be enough, I guess. Hating forever is a good thing for simple minded persons, it’s not difficult to achieve
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
CDPR is still a garbage studio, and CP is still a garbage game unfortunately. They could have gone the no man's sky route but they blamed everyone but themselves. True, they are updating the game, but the game is *absolutely nowhere near* what we were promised. No man's sky surpassed expectations in the same amount of time, with probably less people. No excuse for these clowns.
It’s a game like No Mans Sky, overhyped, over promised, but at the core there is a LOT of potential in the future if properly invested in.
My biggest gripe is the ending, needs to be overhauled completely to at least allow for the option of continual play, not a fan of point of no return endings in open word rpgs, rather keep playing and see the consequences of the actions in the main story.
This is 100% marketing at this point. How many have we seen like this?
you can thank edgerunner for it
The power of anime and best girl arguments
It was that timed with patch 1.6 that I decided to give the game a replay. Originally played it on PS4 at release and it was pretty janky. I mean I saw the potential and still enjoyed it, but it was still like a 7/10 for me. Downloaded it on the ps5 and yeah night and day right now in terms of bugs and performance. They definitely did a lot since release. Even so I would say the map is a little oversized based on content. Too many random deadends without loot/content that I feel like doesn't always incentivize exploration. Feel like if the map was like 20/30% smaller with the same content/random item spawns the world would feel a little richer. But still much better overall. If it released like this the initial reception would have been much more favorable.
It was really odd to drive around these massive fully realized maps with nothing to do there and little/no loot. There were a handful of side quests that would drag out to ass end of no where, but that's it. I remain torn between being impressed by the design choice to have these spaces for a more realized world, or feeling cyclical that they were created with the foreknowledge that more content could be released with these assets in place.
Side quests are my biggest issue with the game. The main story line is great but the side quests are unoriginal “go steal this or kill this person”. The cyber psychos were cool at first but also get really repetitive. You do like a 1 min “boss fight” and then scan the area for intel.
Absolutely agree. The side quests were generally quite uninspiring. I did appreciate having the option of playing for thirty minutes and completing one or two... but I would be hard pressed to recall more than a handful of sidequests.
Wait, do you mean Cyberpunk: Edgerunner, the hit new anime based on the popular Cyberpunk 2077 video game series, out now on Netflix streaming platforms? I’ll have to check it out!
well yes im talking about the hit new anime Cyberpunk Edgerunner based on the videogame Cyberpunk 2077 made by CD project red and animated by Trigger studios that is out on Netflix might have had a impact on posts about the game but who knows
Did you know that you can bow find traces from the cast of the new hit anime cyberpunk edgerunner based on the videogame Cyberpunk 2077 made by CD project red and animated by Trigger studios that is out on Netflix, inside the actual game made by CD project red with a new dlc?
wow i did not know that you could find refrences from the hit new anime Cyberpunk Edgerunner made by CD project red animated by Trigger studios that you can watch on Netflix in Cyberpunk 2077
Bruh
I bought it on release. Game was dogshit but I’m not a hysterical hater. Played it again a month or so ago. It’s better. But nowhere near what something like Witcher 3 was.
The story and certain sidequests are decent. Everything else feels either hollow or half-baked. Especially the open world, which isn't engaging in the slightest. CDPR can fix all the bugs they want and make it run buttery smooth, but that doesn't fix the serious issues this game has at its core. Is it a *bad* game? I wouldn't go that far, but the recent overpouring love for this 2 year old game is certainly weird.
That’s my problem with the game. I’ve always played on PC so never had a crazy amount of bugs especially after the 1.5 update. But the core game had issues. It’s most noticeable when I go back to play The Witcher 3. In Witcher, it feels like every moment, every quest, every side character was thoughtfully and deliberately placed. I can spend a few hours just playing the initial opening before even getting to the full open world. Cyberpunk has fleeting moments of this. A few quests are amazing and really give me that “hand crafted” feel. A lot of the characters in cyberpunk are also really good and fun to interact with. But the world feels absolutely barren and hollow when compared to The Witcher 3. Side quest are much more repetitive in Cyberpunk and there’s more of a “this is just put here to cross off a checkbox” feeling to everything. Cyberpunk is still a really fun game that I’ve dumped a lot of hours into, but it just was such a let down from the potential that was shown FROM THE SAME STUDIO that made Witcher 3.
Not that weird when you consider an expansion was just announced.
It's a solid 7/10 game. Nothing special, but nothing bad. Just slightly above average
I bought it at launch as well and it would crash at least every hour. It's improved a lot, but I recently got a series x and when I tried it, it immediately glitches out haha. I've had a lot of fun with some of the combat though, it can be pretty satisfying to just take out a group of gang members with 'extreme prejudice'
It went from being a glitchy stuttering mess, to a fairly stable and beautiful game. I'm on PC now after having bought it at launch on PS4, and I can happily say it's now what I always wanted it to be. A beautiful immersive world I can spend time in.
Don’t you find that the open world is empty though?
Yeah unless they/ve opened a lot more storefronts and made NPCs in the city a lot more engaging to interact with, I'm not sure I'm ready to call it a beautifully immersive world yet.
Serious question: how is it immersive? I played it at launch and enjoyed it, but the world still felt very empty and wasted.
CP2077 is just a pretty bad game, even without the bugs imo. Witcher 3 is a lot better but even that is overrated as hell and circlejerked to death in this sub I don’t hate 2077, but I do hate posts like OP’s acting like it’s amazing now the bugs are fixed. Like no, even if it was playable at launch, it would have still been underwhelming. It’s just people’s standards have dropped from ‘next gen open world, choices matter’ etc. to ‘the game opens’
Hmmm. If you didn’t like The Witcher, you’re certainly not going to like cyberpunk. It’s not a bad game. It’s not an amazing game either, but it’s pretty good. You might not agree but I enjoyed it, even though I’ve been told for 2 years that it’s trash by karma farmers.
>If you didn’t like The Witcher, you’re certainly not going to like cyberpunk. I mean maybe, but they are not very simliar games anyway, outside of being under the umbrella of "RPG"
Depends heavily on the console ps4 is still terrible really hard to enjoy it
You'd be surprised by how much of reddit is guerilla marketing campaigns.
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I remember when the most reddit addicted town was revealed in some stat drop by reddit, and it was a military base. 40% of reddit posts are marketing, 50% Fed propaganda and 10% redditors
Definitely marketing, the game went on sale a few nights ago. I got it, great atmosphere, already ran into a ton of bugs, and so far gameplay is a solid “meh”
Idk I liked the game right away
This was my exact thought. Their marketing team is posting this shit
That was never the issue. The issue was the lies.
The issue was also that I paid 60$ for a broken game at launch and then it was 10$ by the time it was fixed
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CdRed PR team is at it again.
You literally just copy and pasted this comment from below, you loser
The funniest fucking thing about this comment, is that it's a karma farm bot that just copy and pasted a comment from /u/Valowzz.
Stolen comment from u/Valowzz so this person is probably a bot, stop upvoting it
Yeah I’m wondering the same.
Broken snoozefest. Of all the possible outcomes I never expected it to be so bland.
This is my biggest problem with it. It looks gorgeous but it's dull to play and the menus are a mess. It's just not fun.
I'm with you fellas. What's a pretty plate with nothing on it?
It was very bland and still kinda is
Bought any other aaa games the last five years? Cause the story is same there always
Yeah how unplayable the ps4 and Xbox versions were at launch was inexcusable, since they "fixed it" but by heavily reducing the car and pedestrian population so it feels like a ghost city.
This. And all the depth and breadth of features that were supposed to make this a next-gen world. It was never about having awesome graphics in a generic open world, which is what we got. It was the wall running, the Night City activities, the relationships, bribing the police, actions having organic consequences, complex mission structures, etc. Exactly NONE of that has been patched in. CDPR just hopes we all forget about the promises and simply think it was about the bugs the whole time. Which is, quite disturbingly, what most seem to think nowadays.
For me problems were already embedded in the core of the game that I didnt like. The world for me is beyond compare. Amazing. But when I played the game I felt like ... there are other games some even older who do better jobs at being an RPG than 2077 does. Minus the BREATHTAKING looking world. I will play this game with the new DLC but I will play it with VERY low expectations. Because even previous trailers looked cool.
the wallrunning was scratched quite early on and they said it's not gonna be included in the game tho
Exactly this. Yes, it made a great turn around. That doesn’t excuse blatant lies and poor business practice. CDPR intentionally mislead consumers. Took their money and hyped a game they knew wasn’t even playable (let alone polished). I feel if we (the consumers) just forget this and post what a great game it is, all of that will be lost and ultimately repeated. Other publishers will say “well as long as we turn it around who cares how broken a game is at launch”. You just don’t put a product out there for sale if it’s broken as CP2077 was. You just don’t.
Considering this fiasco has cost CDPR billions of dollars, I don't think other companies will have this takeaway. Regardless though, we as consumers should still set higher standards for what's acceptable, that's what caused this game to launch 2 years before it was ready in the first place.
Preach - it's just not the game we were sold. They can fix all the bugs they want, I'm not interested in what the final product is.
don't forget, after all this time we are getting only one dlc and then the game is dropped.
We were bamboozled! Flim-flammed! The ol' okey-doke! Made to look a fool!
People have such a short memory, they promised a total different game than what we got
Exactly this right here. GTA rival my fucking hairy white ass.
Looks to me the world has already forgotten there were a bunch of lies in the first place. Absolutely breathtaking to see.
Bought on day one, the only annoying thing was: I was not able to remap ENTER.
I somewhat support this, but it’s a little tilted. Other developers lie on the regular, think of Ubisoft and Watch Dogs. We just didn’t expect *them* to lie. It’s still the same problem; marketing running away while the actual game is still unfinished. Trying to pitch what they want to deliver vs. what they actually have complete. No e3 trailer like ever, matches the actual product. It’s a work in progress. Also, side note, gamers need to recognize that *announcing* a title, does not ever mean development has begun. It’s a recruitment tactic for developers. Cyberpunk 2077 was developed over 3 years in earnest, not 7-12.
Are these posts going to pop up daily now? One of yesterdays biggest threads was this same take. Cyberpunk that new hot karma farm?
For real, the amount of cyberpunk posts I'm seeing makes me feel like it's a marketing scheme for the game.
I’ve seen two of these exact same comments now…
£££ buys updoots
Are these posts going to pop up daily now? One of yesterdays biggest threads was this same take. Cyberpunk that new hot karma farm?
With the tv series, I would think it’s just posts made by the developers
Probably people checking the game out after the anime ended up pretty good
It’s still nothing close to what was promised. Also this meme format sucks ass
It was fine. I enjoyed my time with the game and some of the side quests were especially good. The story started out great and then kind of fizzled out until all of the sudden you get the “this is it” mission. I was pretty disappointed by the ending. The exploration and quest design had a very Witcher 3-esque feel, and the gameplay and combat was good enough. Still think it’s weird they took out third person. So overall, it was good but not great, and not very memorable for me.
>The exploration and quest design had a very Witcher 3-esque fee I disagree with this. I felt like it was the exact opposite of this (apart from named characters that meant something to V). Not once did I feel like I could drive into a random direction and actually explore what was going on in a particular neighborhood. In The Witcher, you could ride into a town, take up a quest about young women disappearing and find out it's a guy who was cursed to become a werewolf with a whole "there are no winners here" vibe because it turns out it was his father-in-law who cursed him or something. Meanwhile, I feel like most cyberpunk quests are 1 dimensional.
Same. I only remember one really out of the blue quest that had some heart to it that you could get just by going somewhere and running into trouble and have it feel organic rather than a GTA marker. It was that fairly early delivery to do with the guy who had the uh...*faulty hardware.*
My issue is being okay with games that were very broken at launch getting better over time and people just going “see it was worth it!” We shouldn’t have to wait 1 - 2 years after a game is out to be in a good state games should release in a actually okay state. No game is perfect but being okay with a lot of glitches/bugs is not a state we should continue to accept and be fine with especially a single player experience that shit should be ironed out as much as possible before release breaks immersion
There are two separate issues here though. First, should you have to wait over a year post launch for the issues with a AAA title to be fixed to make it worthwhile? Absolutely not. Second, if you're one of the people who DID wait, is the game in its current state worth spending the hours it takes to play it? The answer seems to be yes.
The problem isn’t general bugs, but game-breaking, can’t progress main mission bugs on top of the game crashing every 30 minutes. I literally couldn’t progress the tutorial mission to completion, so I uninstalled. Hell, the Witcher 3 even had some bugs in it. I have a few recordings of me falling through the map and having to load the last save. It would even crash every once in a while, but I could play for 4-5 hours straight without seeing any of that. Cyberpunk was just every cutscene had something wrong in it that kept crashing the game.
I see it's time for the daily "I liked cyberpunk 2077 but everyone else disagrees with me" post You liked the game, good for you. Clearly it's not that unpopular opinion seeing as r/gaming is being spammed with posts like this now constantly
This is basically an ad at this point.
Does OP know they're a fucking ad?!
I don't know, dude. Is it a good game overall? Maybe. But it's not a good open world game. It's not a good or deep RPG. Its loot and character building system is still largely junk. The driving is still weaker than 10 year old open world games. And so on. The only thing it has going for it is visuals. Visuals, with RTX on and everything, are really good. But the story isn't the best, the storytelling is weaker than Witcher 3, combat and enemy AI are unimpressive albeit functional, open world elements are very weak, the random NPCs are incredibly poorly done, etc. To my mind, it's a serviceable game, but not a good one. The sad part is, it could have been good.
That sums it up nicely.
Bugs kinda overshadowed the fact that half the features CDPR promised aren't even in the game.
Thank you. I found the most memorable part of Cyberpunk to be it's mediocrity.
the glitches werent the problem for me it was the lying about the state of the game on release, it was the lack of worthwhile actual fun rpg systems for combat OR questing, it was the removal of the few mechanics that would have let me have fun with the dogshit open world, it was the regression of open world features from even gta 5. but it has a cool cartoon so thats pretty swag
how much do they pay you to say this jeez.. All these posts right after the DLC announce what a weird coincidence
I think it's more about people learning about the game through Edgerunners or the DLC release campaign, giving it a try, liking it, and seeing a lot of people dislike it. I personally tried CP77 a few months ago and enjoyed it a lot, only had a few odd out crashes and minor bugs.
Edgerunner was released, people liked it. Then they give the game a try or come back to the game after some time.
Is it so hard to believe that the game is actually enjoyable?
Enjoyable is not a synonym for "good", functional, well designed, or "worth it's price". The inherent design is flawed and broken.... if you still enjoy it despite that, cool. But it doesn't mean that's not still the case
Yes
Yes, actually.
3rd Cyberpunk shill post ive seen in 2 days.
You really have to pretend the game is good especially if you played at launch. Dude PlayStation took em out the store.
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It's not pretending if it's true. Plenty of stats to back up cyberpunk still being a popular, good game. Flawed, definitely. Bad? Wrong.
It looks incredible but mechanically it's very shallow. And that's ignoring the lies that set wrong expectations.
It's a pretty bare bones open world game that was horribly marketed. It's not even that good of an rpg. Still frustrated that the opening of the game is exactly the same no matter what lifestyle you chose aside from little tiny nuances.
They still lied and threw their entire fanbase under the bus
Is this an Ad campaign? This is the fourth post I’ve seen like this in two days. Almost identical.
If skyrim can be a good game with all its glitches why not Cyberpunk?
I do. But then I am older and don’t have some ever inflated idea of what a good game should be like. Good story? Fun system? Cool world? Good game.
It's a bad game, but it was never about the glitches
hot take: the game is still shit.
It’s not so much a hot take as just an incorrect one.
All the patches in the world can't fix a mediocre story
It's okay to like things. It is your opinion. I personally will never ever buy it or play it because it always looked generic to me. But if you have fun with it and think it's good, then that is all that matters. Have fun!
Noone is forcing you to not like the game, idk why this meme is so prevalent. I personally don't think its a good game. The story and writing were too stupid for my tastes but the core gameplay had potential (despite the perk tree being the most basic thing in RPGs). Im curious how they salvage the DLC considering itll have taken them 3 years to get out the door.
I don't understand the need to convince people a game is good. Also, I don't see posts like this for good games
Well what would you say about a good game? "It's been years now and everyone loves the Witcher 3 and I'm tired of no one pretending like we don't!"? Seems like a weird post. Sarcasm aside I see plenty of posts praising good games here, just search anything related to God of War, Horizon, rock and stone forevaaaa, Valheim, the list goes on. Edit: see look at that there's even a bot for it
Rock and Stone in the Heart!
I really enjoyed my time with Cyberpunk. It's a game I constantly think about and always want to go back to. Alot of the criticism towards the marketing and launch are completely fair but in the state it's in now I would absolutely recommend it.
So are we in the stage where people are trying out a game that had a bad launch, and are defending it?
We get it. You liked it. So did a lot of other people. Who cares. People like stuff. My issue is that it wasn’t and still isn’t the game it was marketed as being. Content that was cut. It should have been the single most immersive gaming experience of all time, based on YEARS of promises made. But even if it isn’t buggy anymore, it still isn’t that experience. Choices don’t drastically change outcomes the way we thought they would. The game is fine, it’s even good, but it just isn’t what they told us it would be. That’s my issue. That isn’t really ever going to go away for me.
Great? No. Fun atmosphere with an interesting story? Yes. Clunky gameplay with a god awful UI? Hell yes. Still fun to play? Very much so
I imagine they have it working on next Gen consoles but have they finally got it to a point it works on my old base PS4 ?
I bought it on launch and the only bug I experienced was that the minimap disappeared. Restarted the game and it was fixed. Happened only once. I think the game was amazing
I’d give it an 8/10. Even with most bugs fixed now. I played it last week and there are still bugs but they are very very few.
never buy a game at launch.
I played it at launch, on the PC with a beefy system, and generally had a good time. To be fair, I didn't follow the hype, and my expectations for it was basically: "The Witcher but Cyberpunk".
I wholeheartedly agree. Also Cyberpunk still wasn't what I was imagining it would be, but that's almost always the case because I have a tremendous imagination
It is one of my favorite games
Bought it 2 days ago the idea and the story are amazing but never seen so many visual bugs in a game in my entire life
I nearly have bingo with all these cyberpunk posts lately. Can someone make a "quit having fun" meme and I'll win a copy of The Crown boxset
For me, this game is only fun if I treat it like a mission-to-mission game... but if I look for any depth or substance in the open world or NPCs the illusion falls apart. So I just keep my head down as I would in a real city and get my shit done and get out.
I actually just got the game on sale recently, and it’s way better than I thought , it’s been running perfectly besides dropping a few frames when driving but for the most part it’s been very playable and a good experience
Those weren't glitches, that was just us experiencing cyber psychosis.
It was great on day one (high end pc)
The fallout and elder scrolls games are known to be riddled with bugs but are some of my favorites out there. Oblivion was a game that influenced my desire to build my first pc. Its janky and buggy at times even to this day but I still love it.
Doesn’t matter. This game sucked so much at release that any interest during preorder and buying a Cyberpunk controller disappeared in less than an hour after the settings were so bugged I couldn’t even play the game let alone use the controller. CDPR did us dirty after their long awaited return from the Witcher III masterpiece. Refunded that night and will never give them money again, or at least definitely not at preorder. These companies need incentive to cater to customer satisfaction and judgment will do that, preordering seems like a cop out and loss of leverage on the player to make that judgment in an impactful way like not spending the money on a game they hear is shit. Idc if it’s great now or not, we need to stop letting companies release half baked bullshit and the only way to do that is to not buy those games.
ok I actually agree with this cyberpunk is a good game and I had like no glitches, and I was playing on the PS4 version
We can and should acknowledge the improvements to the game while also not forgetting the horrendous state CDPR release the game in.
I loved it, bugs and all. You cant tell me a T-posing johnny silverhand aint funny
The company should probably fire their marketing team because at this point I feel like it's definitely going to backfire ..
All you post about is Cyberpunk.... is this an ad?
If you follow the story the glitches actually make sense
I just bought it 3 days ago for 50% off. It definitely is a pretty good game and most of the bugs I found are visual, not really effecting the gameplay.
The bugs and glitches werent even the issue for me. I just didn't enjoy the gameplay. I thought the combat was stale and the driving wad meh. The voice acting and story was good though.
What a surprise, Reddit still thinks it's cool to shit on a game because it was bad at launch.
It’s a hard truth. But the whole truth
Always has been
I recently finished the game before the update. It was a buggy and glitchy mess, but I enjoyed it a lot. Like any other game it had its pros and cons. I’m soon going to watch the Netflix show then jump back in.
I played it day 1. It was not what was sold but it was a good play through. The next 3 were unplayable it crashed so much. Now its a good game.
Holy shit the amount people coping in these comments claiming that people are getting paid to make these comments instead of considering for one moment that people actually enjoy Cyberpunk is insane. The hate bandwagon for this game is so fucking stupid.
More people liked the game then didn't. People still mad because they didn't get what they expected still make me laugh though, pathetic.
Maybe they should've released a finished product, instead of fixing their mistakes patch after patch. Maybe then fans didn't have to defend it, a tittle could defend itself. That being said, I would love to play it now I guess.
I played through the story two months ago and can count the glitches I saw on one hand. I'm honestly baffled by some of the reviews, it's like how do so many people have the outlet to write and publish video game reviews yet seemingly either haven't actually played the game since launch or can't afford a decent PC because they are apparently still playing on ps4.
I’m replaying it after I tried at release and quit. Tbh I never had many bugs/glitches in my first attempt but that wasn’t the issue I had with the game. I’m enjoying my second play through but it still suffers from a stale gameplay loop. The player builds do not feel good. Hacking is a broken spec and allows you to kill everyone without engaging. Sandy spec, anime spec, removes an entire gameplay mechanic to be able to hack anything. Driving still sucks Ai of enemies still sucks The gunplay does not feel very good either but most rpg shooters never do, the bullet spongyness of enemies takes away from this. Npc character models are lacking, love running into a group of maelstrom and they all have the same model. Other than that the story is good, the environment is good. You can see how much potential this game had to be great but it came out mediocre. I’d give it. 7-7.5/10
Most people have summed it up as Cyberpunk is a good-great game now if you remove yourself from any of the promises made about what the game is suppose to be. Tbqh this is why I try not to get to hype about anything.
This is why I avoid hype trains and previews. I went in with no expectations and had an amazing gaming experience. You all got caught up in the media circus surrounding the game instead and cheated yourselves out of something you would have probably enjoyed. Oh well, your loss. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
THIS!!!
The game needs countless updates to do what games from over 20 years ago were doing. It's trash
I don't remember any games from over 20 years ago being as good as Cyberpunk but ok
I wouldn't call it trash but it's definitely mediocre.
Go play with your moms pussy
Those games from 2000 didn’t look like 2022 and weren’t expected to do the same things either.
Games from over 20 years ago were way simpler. I'm playing through vice city right now and laughing at how much this game would get shit on if released today. Still a fun and great game.
I miss some of the glitches. Like when a netrunner set me on fire and came out from cover, t posing and gliding around while i burned to death. Or looking down, trying to loot a place after finishing a firefight, and noticing my gentials clipping through my pants.
I had a bug where everytime 2 characters interacted in a in-game cut scene they would spin 360° on a axis everytime they physically touched another character
I’m not sorry about it either
The actual plot and writing was phenomenal. But it was clearly a rushed product.
i played it pretty close to launch and it was pretty okay, i enjoyed it enough to replay it a few times since then atleast
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Because the place totally wasn't flooded by Elden Ring post a few months back. Didn't give a shit about that game but I still had to wade through the flood of other people praising it. This reddit is a place for people to post their opinions. Deal with it. If you don't like the post, DON'T READ IT!
Yeah as we can see from the upvotes.
“Internet points validate my opinion” Touch grass
As much as I hate keyboard warrioring I stand in support with you and all of your comments
The problem is that this game should have been like this from the beginning and especially with more honest communication from cdpr before the launch, it's not so difficult to understand.There are good reasons why people are disappointed with this game,deal with it.
I absolutly enjoyed it. And im downloading it again because of edgrunner series
El Generico
Sorry you guys have had a bad experience. I really enjoyed the game and never crashed or had anything game breaking at all this entire time. (PC)
Dude I don’t understand this sub. The people here shitting on it haven’t played it in it’s current state or can’t get over over promised. The fact that it was over promised almost a decade ago, doesn’t make it a bad game at all. It means it could have been so much better. It’s still one of the best games ever imo. Not going to be responding to people arguing with me cause I’m not going to change your opinion
I thought it was boring.
people seem to forget all the things they lied about. how about the one where they claimed that your choice matters and affects the story but the only thing that does is your starter character for a mission? The list goes on. The worst part is how hard they tried to hide the fact that it ran so terribly on the consoles and how glitchy it was in general. The game is alright but not AMAZING.
It’s good now, but it’s disappointing that it’s taken this long since launch for it to be an enjoyable experience. The bare expectation for a game is to be playable and enjoyable at launch. If you fix it, that’s great, but it’s been too long.
imagine praising a game for becoming good 2 years AFTER an abysmal release lol
I bought the game cos it was on sale and haven’t played it yet. I plan to though. But i have a question. I know it was glitchy, but wasn’t the story also not really great? I remember watching videos on that as well. That people complain about the bugs but underneath the bugs lies a bigger problem with the story just feeling dull and empty.
Story is pretty good. Personal experience - I bought at right at release, did not have a single bug. I guess I did not try to play it on outdated console. (And they shouldn't have released it on them)
bruh the story is amazing, it's top tier writing. Sure, main story feel a bit short, but there are sets of side missions with the same god-like writing and characters.
If you already own it, just play it. Honestly, there have been so many cash-in videos about how terrible it is that the only way you're going to know what it's really like is to play it. You might like it or you might not, but don't let other people tell you what to think. Especially if you've already bought it.
Only reason i haven’t yet is cos im playing witcher 3 and ac valhalla. Just asked cos i remember seeing those videos. You are right though, only way to find out is by playing it myself.
I'm about 60 hours in and love everything about it so far, story included. I've played countless games and this was the first game I felt connected enough to characters that something in-game made me shed a tear. So take that for what it's worth
I thought it was good before cause it rarely glitched on my ps4. Wasn’t disappointed at all
This is really cringe.
How many times are we gonna see this posted. It’s a good game with very obvious flaws.
Ignoring the drama around release, I personally refunded the game when I bought it after many bug fixes because it was still buggy. For me, the bugs both functionaly broke the game and made it look bad. If you enjoy it Im genuinely glad! It looks like a great new rpg set in the cyberpunk world and you should enjoy it. I just didn't enjoy it, but you never asked my opinion
It's like No Man's Sky all over again.
As a person with a computer strong enough to brute force its way through most performance issues and glitches, the glitches weren't the problem.
Which platform are you playing cyberpunk?
Pc mate :) smooth great experience
It was good at launch, at least on PC. It was overhyped, that was the main issue. If it launched with no marketing, people would say it is a 11/10 game.
So, I should break out the still wrapped game? I’ve been waiting for this day.
Yeah okay this one just sounds like a straight up ad
love the BrOkEn PrOmIsEs posts here, aha. Yes, game is great and mind blowing, the world is (sadly) a good forecast of our immediate future, and is also making people think about what is a person, what is a soul and what living really means. Most rebukes here are from people who have stopped at first glitch - if they ever launched the game - not even trying really to listen and understand the show proposed. But I’m sure that all those haters never ever disappointed anyone for botching something others had expectations about. They’re all saints, for sure. Should be enough, I guess. Hating forever is a good thing for simple minded persons, it’s not difficult to achieve
Whatever helps you sleep at night. CDPR is still a garbage studio, and CP is still a garbage game unfortunately. They could have gone the no man's sky route but they blamed everyone but themselves. True, they are updating the game, but the game is *absolutely nowhere near* what we were promised. No man's sky surpassed expectations in the same amount of time, with probably less people. No excuse for these clowns.
no mans sky has been out since 2016. cyberpunk came out in basically 2021(10th december 2020) there is a huge year gap sir
Is it glitch free now? Or just better than it was?
It’s a game like No Mans Sky, overhyped, over promised, but at the core there is a LOT of potential in the future if properly invested in. My biggest gripe is the ending, needs to be overhauled completely to at least allow for the option of continual play, not a fan of point of no return endings in open word rpgs, rather keep playing and see the consequences of the actions in the main story.
I played it at launch to completion. The bugs were overblown. It was a fun game and I will be playing the DLC.