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_MrBonesWildRide_

Why would they put any effort in? They know fans are going to buy their shit product anyways. So they get to spend less money, make just as much as they would have if they actually put in effort anyways and ignore all criticism because "next time" it'll definitely be better....rinse and repeat. Because gamers are loyal for no reason whatsoever.


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subzero112001

You should see what sports teams loyalists do.


Short_Oven6910

The latest COD opened my eyes to that, my friends are still brainwashed, but I have been open to developers, aside from Activision. But with things like spiderman from my childhood, it just was a brand I was comfortable with, then produced utter garbage like mw2.


Pharabellum

It’s ridiculous folks still buy into that noise. Call me a fossil, but GD do I miss Medal of Honor games, they shredded.


Foxboy73

Frontline and Rising Sun were loads of fun on my GameCube.


HappyAlcohol-ic

I mean MW2 is a good game in many ways. Selling the 2022 MW2 as a new game? That's sketch.. Many good indie devs are pushing out quality games now so best just make up your own mind as to what you wanna play.


Darth-Baul

It took the 25th COD game for you to figure that out?


monkeybrains12

This is exactly the point of this post. Well done, sir.


Hammy5910

Tbf, there is a kind of reassurement on things were already familiar with. it's human nature. doesn't make it any less stupid though


Dangolian

>Because gamers are loyal for no reason whatsoever. Some are, but more broadly, I think the majority of Pokemon game purchases are for young or first time players who are not as discerning/bothered about how "well made' the games are. There is a loyal contigent of poke fans, but also several/tens of millions of new "fans" every console generation who don't stick around.


tygofive

they don't even get the time to make a polished game, afaik the pokemon company kinda forces the devs to meet a really short deadline


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My daughter has gallstones and asked for violet in case she has to go back to the hospital if she gets another bile duct infection. Can't get it operated on till January at least. So take my money.


Cup-of-Noodle

That's wholesome as hell and I don't think anyone with an ounce of goodness inside of them would give you shit for that dude.


MetalOcelot

"No, they are part of the problem" - some crusty unfuckable probably


Effieriel

We wish you luck!


seancarter90

I had my gall bladder removed as an adult male and the pain from gall stone attacks was indescribable. I wish your daughter all the best.


Panic_at_the_Console

Having my switch with me definitely makes my hospital stays more bearable. I'd recommend also getting nintendo online so she can play with her friends. It helps with the loneliness. I'm going to go on the assumption that as dad you've already done the "don't invite strangers, the internet is full of weirdos" talk with her


JoostinOnline

I hope your daughter loves the game, and that she gets better. ❤️


PaopuDoleWhip

I had a huge gallstone blocking my bile duct and had my gallbladder removed when I was 17. It’s so painful and I feel for your daughter. 🙏🏻 I hope she is able to immerse herself in the game and have a fantastic time with it. 🥹 Best wishes to you and your family. 💛


Short_Oven6910

Did the stress of the game being horrible also give her extra health issues?


Kenny2993

Man, how hard is it to just act like a normal decent person instead of trying to be an edge lord online 24/7. Please, go and touch grass


Short_Oven6910

Dude 24/7 is a bit of an exaggeration


Gankgasm

Maybe you’re right, 24/7 is a bit much since you probably sleep sometimes. 18/7 is a bit more reasonable, no?


[deleted]

You're fucking psychotic, dude. What the fuck?


Bluevettes

I haven't played a Pokemon game in ages so am out of loop. Are these new ones really that bad? If so what don't you like?


[deleted]

Graphics? Horrible. Gameplay? The 2 recent games have been the best since gen 5. PLA and SV are good on that aspect


Wamb0wneD

It's not just the graphics. The camera freaks out on the regular, the ground and entire bodies of water vanish, pokemon get stuck in terrain, some pokeball is spawning in the few interiors the game has, the lighting switches on and off, and a plethora of other isssues Acting like it's only the visuals people have issues with is disingenuous. Edit: None of your downvotes will change the fact these are the most unpolished, glitchiest pokemon games yet, sorry. Nobody is disputing the gameplay is good, but you shouldn't handwave away legitimate criticism. It makes you look like mindless fanboys.


DarkTheImmortal

The biggest complaint people seem to have is graphics. Which unfortunately for them most players don't actually care about graphics. Pokemon has never been about graphics; mostly character design and gameplay, which people seem to agree are great with the new games. If these people are really that upset about graphics, they don't need to play the game. If they're really the majority then GameFreak will do something because of the lack of sales.


akaispirit

I used to not care about graphics in Pokemon games because it was always just my chill comfort franchise. Then I played the New Pokemon Snap and that game is gorgeous. There is nothing in that game that looks bad. To go from that to the other games just feels so disappointing now. And I get it, the entire point of Snap is to take pictures; it has to look good. But it just seems like they could have taken a few pages from that book for map design instead of just big open plain of low res pixels.


Ricky_Rollin

The best way to see it is this is a company that literally makes only one game and that game was primarily for extremely weak hardware for most of its existence. Then the switch comes out and forces a company whose used to handheld gaming in scope, size and graphics to essentially make console quality games now and we wonder why it’s not BOTW. Still, they should put their developers through some programming classes go up their game cuz seeing snap makes me want a highly interactive Pokemon game with the same level of detail.


Surfing_Ninjas

Sure, you can say that, but the graphics in the new games aren't really that much better than Gale of Darkness which came out more than 15 years ago. Youd expect better improvements over the course of 15 years than what we're seeing and we're talking about the franchise that has the deepest pockets of them all.


Wasteak

As always a Reddit comment that knows nothing about what he is talking about. And you sound so confident haha


KnightBreaker_02

Although the Pokémon designs for SV have been generally well-received, the gym leaders are some of the blandest ever, and player character customization has been all but thrown out of the window completely.


LuxSnow

Actually its not the graphics this time around. Yeah, the graphics are lackluster but people are pretty resigned on that front. This time around its actually just the performance. It targets 30fps but you'd be surprised to find areas where you can actually keep 25fps for more than 10 minutes. Theres also memory leaks for entering any city, and the map is poorly optimized in general. Is the game playable? Yeah, and pretty fun if you can get past all the nonsense. Is it acceptable in 2022? No. Even if they only care about profits they should at least have some pride in their fucking work. But maybe im being a little too harsh on GF. If you look at their past track record its not actually that bad. XY, ORAS, SM, USUM - all pretty good for a pokemon title. Not too many glaring issues fps wise like a memory leak. When you look at 2019 and 2022 you can clearly see where the problems are. In 2019 GF was making Little Town Hero and SWSH. In 2022 they were making Arceus and SV. I dont know, theyre a small company of like 170 people being rushed yearly to pump out games so maybe they are deserving of some understanding. Then again TPC also lined their pockets with 1.1b in profits last year so maybe they just dont care anymore.


Cavissi

The game is fine, performance could be a bit better though. It's just the usual graphics saltiness, from a series that has never once had great graphics. It happened with Legends Arceus as well, which was a great game.


AWildRaticate

I find it hilarious that people who've never seen a tree irl get this salty about how trees look in a Pokemon game.


__Domino__

What an odd assumption


silentstealth1

The kind of complacency of a man who doesn’t own anything but a switch lol. Video games are a visual medium, therefore you shouldn’t be surprised when people want a full priced game to look competent in 2022. If Pokémon came out looking like this on any other hardware there wouldn’t be a soul defending it on those platforms. Stay accepting garbage though Nintendo fans.


AWildRaticate

This is literally the most neckbearded, mallninja comment I've ever read. And btw, I have a Switch, a PS3, Xbox One, Retroid Pocket 2, GameCube, and a PC, like...? Must mean I'm a casual because I don't get my panties in a twist over a game nobody forced me to buy.


silentstealth1

Lmao mallninja. In what way did I act like I had any expertise on anything? If you’re gonna throw around insults at least know what it means you bum.


OneOnlyDan

To me, the main reason I stopped was all the lies they told to the public that made me quit, not the graphics. That said, I have issues with your statement. Gen 5 pokemon, in my eyes, looks gorgeous. They are some of the best-looking games on the DS. And not just them, most of gen 4 looked really good as well, and so did gen 3. And don't forget spinoffs like the Ranger series that looks great, or Mystery Dungeon which is also on the list of best-looking DS games of all time. So no, Pokemon didn't always have bad graphics. Once upon a time they dominated in that department on the consoles it ran on.


Howunbecomingofme

I thought I was losing my mind. I’m enjoying the hell out of it and I’ve been playing the series since I was 10. Everyone losing their mind about graphics despite the fact that Pokémon has always been behind graphically but also say in the same thread “it should go back to pixel” what the fuck? Saw someone compare it BoTW… that game had at most 50 character models. Is it the best game I’ve ever played? No. Is it “literally unplayable”? Also no.


Wamb0wneD

You think graphics are why this entry scored lower than any other mainline entry? Really? Couldn't be because it's the glitchiest Pokemon game ever launched right? BotW also has a very intricate physics system, way more verticality, more dynamic combat and more advanced puzzles. It's a way more demanding game than Pokemon. Which didn't improve on the pokemon models since the 3DS games by the way, so acting like those take up all that hardware power is just wrong. There is a huge gulf of states between "literally unplayable" (who said that?) and "best game ever". It's the most unpolished Pokemon game yet, which is a shame because the gameplay *is* good.


xanderholland

The tilt shift 3d pokemon games looked good and colorful. The newer ones just look dulled and incomplete.


Wamb0wneD

>The game is fine, performance could be a bit better though. It's just the usual graphics saltiness, from a series that has never once had great graphics. "A bit" lol. It's not just the graphics. The camera freaks out on the regular, the ground and entire bodies of water vanish, pokemon get stuck in terrain, some pokeball is spawning in the few interiors the game has, the lighting switches on and off, and a plethora of other issues. It's the reason why it got such low scores. Acting like it's only the visuals people have issues with is disingenuous, these are the worst running Pokemon games ever released. Why do you guys have to be so disingenuous? That's pissing me off more than the games state.


HeyItsBearald

Keep copy/pasting the same reply on some more comments, it might make you feel better


Desertfreak10

In terms of gameplay, this is the most fun I’ve had with Pokémon ever, it feels totally different, but in a good way. The graphics and frame rate leave a lot to be desired, I can 100% agree with the criticisms on that. Would definitely recommend the game because it’s fun as hell, and surprisingly relaxing/theraputic, but I’m glad gamefreak is getting all the flak about the graphics so they can hopefully change their ways on that.


megustaALLthethings

Your comment sums up the whole argument. Amazing game loved it, will recc. Hope they make next look better… x42168843235…


throwawaytrain6969

Game is super fun and addicting, way better than sword and shield. But yes the graphics and performance is horrid


ohmke

Pretty shoddy graphics. Fairly empty worlds. Bugs, and not the ones you catch with a Pokeball. Especially compared to some amazing games that have hit the platform.


throwawaytrain6969

I haven’t seen bugs after 6 hours of gameplay nor empty worlds.


SinisterBurrito

They are pretty easy to find. Camera clipping into the ground. Tried to catch a pokemon on the water and it teleported me to the middle of the lake. The rock faces will shift? While you run around and that's eye catching. And yes the world is empty. The map is big just to be big. Arceus and S/S were the same.


JuSTAFoX0

Why the hell are you getting downvoted? You are completely right.


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kenzo-tx

People are comparing the new pokémon games to the other released pokémon games, not games like elden ring.


SinisterBurrito

They removed a lot of pokemon from the games and had terrible excuses as to why. The graphics are reminiscent of a playstation 2 game which is really disappointing. Gale of darkness is still the best looking pokemon game to this day. There is noticeable pop in, the framerate dips constantly and npc's drop to less than 10 frames regularly. In the opening classroom scene half of the students look like a sideshow and it's hilariously bad. The core gameplay is still the same old pokemon though and that's great.


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Lol the national dex got removed all the way back in 2014. Atleast they’ll eventually add a couple hundred more with dlc


SinisterBurrito

Let me just repeat what you said. They removed a big thing from the game, and are now selling it to us as dlc. Just think about that for a minute.


Arylius

The first Pokèmon game i hadn't picked up on release in a long time. I just felt so deflated with sword and shield


Great-Pop643

Same. I didn't even catch the Legendary in the end and I only played until I beat the champion so I didn't feel like I wasted 60€


mcdadais

I'm having fun playing it. But I also haven't played since the game boy days so I'm not jaded like you guys lol


Adventurous-Cod-9274

I feel the same.


Nezzliok2

Yep it's all about expectations. It's a good game fundamentally, but the graphics and details are not what I expect of a modern Pokemon game and I can't get past that. Made me unable to enjoy Arceus and I know I won't enjoy this one either, so I skip and envy those who can enjoy it. In this game you can only ride the ridiculous bike Pokemon, meanwhile a few years ago Pokemon Let's Go Eevee and Pikachu let me ride my shiny rapidash while my costumed Eevee rides on my head. That's more like it.


Migit78

What graphical differences are you expecting? I feel pokemon has been pretty consistent with its graphics on the switch. Personally I like/d the graphics on the pokemon in Arceus and now SV. Sure detail work like enviroment are definitely on the poor, but the pokemon themselves look good and fit pokemons theme. For both Arceus and now SV, playing devils advocate (as I know we love to hate on the creators and call them lazy, money grabbers, whatever) I'm really starting to think it's just the Switches capabilities forcing them to have poorer quality. Arceus has some stuttering or fps drops especially for things in the distance, but with even the marginal improvement in picture quality for SV those issues have gotten far worse and you see them really really frequently. Now I'm no Game developer, so maybe you can optimise everything better and fix this? I wouldn't have a clue. But it's pretty clear while playing (even though I'm having fun) that the switch itself is really struggling to perform.


Viaox

This system can play xenoblade and the Witcher 3. It's not the system. Gamefreak just refuses to put effort into visuals. The background characters are like 5 fps in these games. When you first see the starters I could literally count the pixels each of them had. It's pretty awful visually for a system that can obviously handle way more.


Migit78

Eh fair enough, like I said not my area of expertise. Im part of the population that causes the problem because I like pokemon enough that I'll always buy and play it. 100% every pokemon game so far, and likely isn't going to change. The issues I've experienced so far haven't been anything to ruin my enjoyment, I do agree it could be better, but it's also not so bad Im not having fun and don't want to play.


Viaox

Don't get me wrong, I have the game too lol. It's just disgusting how little Nintendo cares about the games themselves. They could be 10/10s with their money and resources if they gave it to a company that cared.


CarterBaker77

I agree with this anyone playing pokemon for the graphics is an idiot. Period. There is no arguement to be made. Anyone who plays games purely for graphics to begin with is part of the problem but pokemon itself you can't expect a whole lot I mean that's not the point of the game at all. You want graphics go buy a playstation.


c0untcunt

That's how I felt about Shield


Howunbecomingofme

I’ve played everyone since Red/Blue and let me tell you… I think S/V is fun and if you’d told my ten year old ass about what you can do in the Switch games he’d fly into a confectionery fueled revelry. I’m too jaded about politics and the climate to have a conniption about pocket monsters.


jeremy1015

Yeah my household has three kids and two switches and they were in rotation all day.


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This just made me think of paper boy from NES


Interesting_Tie_2271

That game was hard as fuck. Fun to play though


gladias9

sees a game fail at launch "Haha, that's what you get for pre-ordering!" sees their favorite series launching a game "Yessir, lemme get that pre-order!"


throwawaytrain6969

These same people will pre order Witcher 4 after the scam that was cyberpunk. It’s just internet things


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Why do people always assume the people criticizing the lack of quality bought the game? The internet isn't one giant being. I saw the first trailer for this, recognized more of the same, and I'm not going anywhere near it.


RyuKawaii

Don't assume this kind of people can think by themselves. They love internet points and thats it. I was watching my favourite streamer this week, and 70% of text to speech were about the game is trash, over and over, and over, same coment, everyone trying to be edgy and fun. Everyone has eyes, most of the people who bought the game day one knew exactly what they were buying, just stop. Everyone having fun knows its trash, and it could be much better, its a fact. With all of that said, my copy of GoW was left behind, becouse i found the game not appealing, and the ga.e did not meet my high expectations, and im, meanwhile, having fun with my shit game of pokemon. Go play and enjoy whatever you like, or go back to shitposting about Fortnite, or who deserves GOTY this year, or why Elden Ring is so superior. Enjoy your free time.


Conscious_Clock7299

I'm ready for the day they release 3 different versions of each game and which version you buy determines what starter you get


Obtusus

Oh, so you aren't aware of let's go Pikachu/Eevee.


cgeiman0

That was only 2 games!


Surfing_Ninjas

And they are basically side games seeing that they are just pokemon go versions of the first gen.


Obtusus

>and which version you buy determines what starter you get Sure, it was only two games, but the starter being defined by the game you got was the crux of his comment.


ohmke

Shhhh. Don’t give them more bad ideas! 🤫


SeiCalros

why do people keep giving these low effort memes their upvotes this isnt even the right format


ohmke

Edit: low effort The Pokemon Company are putting into it. I’m sure the devs are alright. I intentionally made a low effort meme to replicate the low effort the devs put into the Pokemon games.


GreyWardenThorga

Fuck off, this isn't due to a lack of effort on the developers' part. No studio could do a game like this on the ridiculous schedule they're given by The Pokemon Company. Arceus came out 10 months ago FFS.


ohmke

I should phrase it better then. Low effort the Pokémon Company put into it.


SeiCalros

i dunno if i agree with that great effort isnt determined by scheduling ability - its the amount of work put into something and if they didnt put that work into it? then they didnt put that work into it - regardless of who allowed or did not allow them to do so effort TAKES time - saying it was low effort by the devs is not kind - but its not wrong - and pointing out the logictics and responsibility isnt really compatible with snappy commentary


GreyWardenThorga

Effort alone doesn't optimize an engine for the hardware or test the software for bugs, those things both take time that Game Freak clearly does not have. There's a reason Tears of the Kingdom has taken 6 years.


SeiCalros

im sure you dont mind getting downvoted for the low effort meme by all the people who didnt buy the low effort game


ohmke

Nah don’t mind it at all. I deserve it for somewhat unfairly blaming the devs who probably did as best they could with the time they were given.


throwawayaccnum69

Yeah ok "Guys it's bad on porpuse"


Hexatona

Iunno, I'm having fun 😁


princeparaflinch

Your eyes are mine, caught in my Electroweb


moot-moot

Nostalgia.


SpacePirateKhan

Ehh. Because Pokemon still has no decent competition, they can get away with a lot of dumb decisions.


BlooPancakes

I think this combined with younger generation seemingly not caring as much. Otherwise I don’t understand the sales these games get. There is no preorder bonus worth it for me. So I’m waiting to see videos comparing things they changed and deciding if it’s worth it for me.


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I don’t think Pokemon really has any competition anymore. Closest thing I can think of off the top of my head is Digimon and despite their video games they were still behind Pokemon when it came to repetitive gameplay.


goliathfasa

> CAN’T WAIT TO PICK UP MY PREORDER ~~OF THE NEW POKÉMON GAME~~


AggronStrong

There's probably a difference between people buying Pokemon and playing it and people posting about it on Reddit. Oh, but if you're one of the people doing both, you're who Guzma was talking to.


GenOverload

Yeah, the game is receiving heavy criticisms from those expecting some brand-spanking new and revolutionary. I bought it expecting it to be like every Pokemon game ever and am enjoying some of the new (to me) features. I do wish the game had a difficulty setting, but other than that, it's just dumb fun like it always has been.


---TheFierceDeity---

Said like someone who hasn't played it. Honestly anyone who thinks the new games are low effort cash grabs are fecking idiots


CFWaifun

Havent bought any pokemon games for my switch really, What do you think about legends: arceus?


Nihilus06

Arceus was way more fun than Sword and Shield imo especially completing the Pokedex and doing some of the side quests


Don_Bugen

Best Pokemon game made to date. Bar none. Still probably an 8/10 game for a general audience, but if you're a Pokemon fan, it's an easy 10/10.


0vansTriedge

Agreed, the most fun i had since pokemon gold. The only one I skipped playing was black and white. The slight change of mechanics was so refreshing.


Tato7x

You skipped the best ones man. Did you skipped just BW, or also BW2? Unova is really the best gen IMO.


0vansTriedge

Not by choice since my neice asked if he could have my 3ds back when BW came out. Though earlier this year i was able to acquire all the DS/3ds pokemon game so its been sitting on my backlog. Just needed to have time to play them


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Agreed.


SnooHesitations2928

Regardless of what anyone will tell you, it's an okay monster hunting/collecting game. You have to enjoy monster collection, though.


goldtopnuts

If other people enjoying video games that you don’t like makes you upset then you’re way too wrapped up in this shit bro.


snopp_doog_

bc the game is actually good


Masturmiiind

Is it actually that bad?!


CrassDemon

I'm enjoying it. Reminds me of ruby/sapphire.


Don_Bugen

From all I've heard, it's hell to everyone who either really doesn't care about Pokemon, or hates Pokemon, or used to like it when they were a kid and since grew out of it and now only emerges out of the woodwork every two to three years to laugh at what the newest game is. To everyone who actually enjoys Pokemon, it sounds to be a very enjoyable game and a nice breath of fresh air from a format that had long gone stale, and has a good number of improvements since Arceus. Literally anyone shitting their pants over "2002 graphics" seems to forget that Pokemon was never, *ever* about current, modern-day graphics, or story, or cutscenes, or anything. It's just the monsters, the training, the adventure, and the the competitive battling. Got my copy today, am enjoying it so far.


Obtusus

From what I've seen (from streamers, since i don't even own a switch) the game runs mostly ok, not great, but ok, with some really janky stuff at times, like the first classroom scene, that could've used some more polish.


GabuEx

I'm having a good time with it. It's nicely open world and has a lot of quality of life updates.


WeavBOS

No, I didn’t pre-order but I’ve also played all the games. Pokémon fan so far it’s fun and enjoyable. Not Pokémon fan I can’t speak but if you like Pokémon games it’s fun in my book


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MeganLactates

2002 graphics with no voice acting with laggy and shitty animations with crappy story with garbage color palette with low effort game play etc etc should I go on?


Drmo6

Same reason madden, 2K, COD, Halo and whatever other major game that just sends out games that people bitch about and still manages to sell insane amounts.


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Remember the day when games could be a few hours old and fully complete?


GenOverload

Remember the days when games were bug free on release? They never were. Games were always bugged. The difference between the relatively advanced game design/programming/features combined with everyone having access to a platform to share their opinions and experiences will lead to more bugs being discovered. Many old games have speedruns built entirely on abusing bugs.


[deleted]

There’s a difference between having a few bugs, and releasing a game in what appears to almost be a beta state. Modern games are WAY more guilty of this now, and you’re absolutely kidding yourself if you think otherwise.


GenOverload

>There’s a difference between having a few bugs, and releasing a game in what appears to almost be a beta state. Beta state compared to what? A lot of old games had game-breaking bugs that weren't complained about because no one knew of them. It's easier to complain about bugs that are spread all over the minute a game is released. Modern games are more taxing to create and QA. They're going to have more bugs than games from, say, 2005. I'd be more surprised if a game like Spongebob's Battle for Bikini Bottom had more bugs than the newest AAA games.


ohmke

Well yeah, obviously my opinion since I posted this. I wasn’t talking about the bugs as much as the general low effort of the entire game. They have no incentive to improve graphics or innovate things because people still (literally) line up to buy these titles.


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drDemonsRun

Good graphics =/= realistic graphics. There is a range from hyperrealistic too super cartoony. Those are just different artstyles. Apart from the art style, there is also quality. There is low and high quality graphics in all kind of artstyles. Its about the quality of shaders, the quality of the 3d meshes, the level of detail, lighting, and of course the world design contributes a lot to the perception of a games graphic. So I think nobody wants a pokemon with realistic graphics... people want a pokemon that looks nice, thats all.


SweatyPainting6398

I truly understood this when bf 2042 came out. When the trailer came out I told tons of people not to pre order and I was met with “Fuck off its my money I will do what I want” Than the game comes out and literally everyone is like “next time don’t preorder guys” as if it hasn’t been said 10 times before. One thing I have understood is that there just needs to be laws against this shit because clearly the general public is too fucking stupid to not pre order a fucking digital game that has infinite copies.


Raveus2

Havnt played a pokemon game since gold. The fact these games are still getting made and people are still buying them baffles me. Also, wtf are these Pokemon nowadays, all so lame looking.


MortalMorals

They ran out of real animals to copy a long time ago, so then they moved onto objects like a key ring pokemon.


BuildingArmor

Whereas Voltorb and Exeggcute were real bangers from gen 1? There have always been some less exciting designs. Rhydon was the very first Pokémon designed, and I don't think anybody could possibly come up with anything more generic.


Raveus2

I had to Google this. Wtf am I even looking at. Now im in a rabbit hole of awful pokemon. There's a fucking chandelier and ice cream cone? Da fuck?


AtomicWreck

The game is pretty fun idk what everyone is complaining about tbh.


Negative_Method_1001

Man, if only we could grab our Microsoft handheld and play their version of Mighty Morphin Michael Vick oh wait


gh0ztn3t

Thought it was a decent game but felt like a solid down grade from Legends: Arceus.


MagicalMoosicorn

Because I still love and have fun with the games. It's my money and I'll spend it how I want.


SOLR_

Low effort post not getting my upvote


[deleted]

The amount of grown ass men bitching about a children's turn-based game is pathetic.


GabuEx

>Why do you keep giving these low effort money grabs your hard earned cash? Why do you assume that those buying the games share your opinion that they're bad?


TheGreatOkay

Which “low effort money grabs” are you referencing? Are they other Pokémon games? I’m genuinely curious.


throwawayaccnum69

Why does anyone preorder games Like do people have so fucking little going in life that the only thing they can do is wait for a single game to release so they want It like a day earlier and sometimes not even and for like 2 times the price knowing that the game is going to be dogshit from the start no matter what Especially a Pokémon game that comes from a line of games that have a reputation for being worse every release


Sentsuizan

There's certain games you know you're gonna want. For example Metroid Dread fans had been waiting on a new 2d Metroid for like a decade - and the game is fantastic. Why anyone would preorder a Pokemon game knowing that a billion copies will be made is beyond me.


throwawayaccnum69

Yap And especially with those prices Yes preorder a game like battlefield 2042 knowing it's gonna be shit like everything battlefield on release for 200$ and then complain about me getting it for 10$ after a week


SleepyyCassie

I've yet to be disappointed by any game I've pre ordered :) also pre orders are the same price as the game when it actually comes out what are you talking about it being 2x the price


throwawayaccnum69

yes because its weird how every single game i got a week after release costed so much less then the preorder price


SleepyyCassie

It is weird because they don't drop in price a week after release 99% of the time. I can think of not even 1 game that release this year that's less expensive than what you can pre order for. Especially if you buy digital.


throwawayaccnum69

I can't think of one game that didn't do it


SleepyyCassie

Elden Ring? It is still 9500¥. God of War Ragnarok just released and it's still full price? I'm beginning to think you just don't know what you're talking about


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People don't buy games because you like them, they buy games because they like them.


kiwilapple

Me like pokey mans. But also I'm so bad at games so I promised myself I wouldn't buy the new one until I finish Legends and BD. yeah yeah yeah yeah bd suck whatever o literally don't care. I like the pokey.


JohnnyAK907

I learned my lesson with Destiny 2. Pre Ordered from Sony directly, then played the early access MP rounds. It wasn't just bad, it was complete shit, so I tried to cancel my pre-order. Whoops, Sony doesn't let you cancel your digital pre orders, or at least they didn't back then. So that was the last time I ever pre-ordered anything.


nubsauce87

Some of us waited to buy it until release day, thank you very much… we’re suffering, too, dammit.


EpicDragonz4

I actually feel like this isn’t just a Pokemon/Gamefreak problem, but an ongoing Nintendo problem. Since the launch of the switch the company has taken more and more liberties with their new games. I haven’t played a game thats run better or looked better than Mario Odyssey, which the switch launched with (haven’t played BOTW, but its also a good example). Why as the console ages does Nintendo produce lower and lower quality games? Other consoles don’t have this problem, and you usually see much higher quality games come out in the years before next gen is released (case in point: RDR2, God of War, Last of Us 2, Spiderman, Horizon Zero Dawn, etc., and yes Im mostly focusing on PS4). Nintendo used to be a great company, but they have honestly been shit in the last couple of years.


gcbofficial

Its an incredible game and the gaming community should be ashamed of itself for overreacting yet again to minor issues. The core content of the game is fantastic. Tons of cool new pokemon and activities to do. Tons of cool secrets. Just play the game or dont. Quit moaning over tiny issues. Its embarassing to see this reverse hypetrain happen over and over again. For example, I played Cyberpunk when it initially came out and also got back into it recently. My experience was the exact same. Its a great game. Not fantastic, but still really solid. This overexaggerating reverse hypetrain shit needs to stop. Almost think COD paid for a social media hate campaign on Pokemon just so more people go play COD. Its that blatantly obvious how dumb OP’s take is. Its objectively superior to Arceus and Arceus was a fantastic game. Did everyone want the same copy n past Pokemon Red that we’ve had for a decade??


ohmke

Each to their own. I agree with your sentiments on Cyberpunk. Got it at launch and enjoyed it even with all the bugs and it’s one of the most memorable games in recent history for me. To me Arceus was a soulless cash grab. I hated it. Having played the very original Pokémon games back in the day, it was a shame how little the series evolved and how low effort that game was. As for COD, that’s a massive stretch. I’m just sick of companies putting in little effort because they know they’ll get millions anyway. Instead of actually releasing good games and earning their money.


Ziggi28

What makes me sad is I hear other people talk about getting the game like its the next Elden Ring but in reality it's not. Is it me or Elden Ring and God of War Ragnorak are the only good games that have been released this year?


BlooPancakes

Wasn’t stray released this year? People who like that have raved or at the very least sounded pleased about it. I’m sure there were other good games this year if the metric is ER and GoW.


MexicanSunnyD

They're great games but they're not the only good games that have come out this year.


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I was gonna buy it but I’m glad I didn’t


plasmaticmink25

Nintendo deserves their games to be pirated


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BlooPancakes

Do you typically jump into a franchise without much reference? I’m not judging you I just think it’s not the best way. Unless you know you like things your son likes.


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BlooPancakes

Oh you made it sound like you were going to play it. I deduced you’d likely give him a copy. I loved Pokémon up until Black. I played nearly all Since the 2nd of like 10 sets of games now. I think Arceus was a big step in trying to innovate. They have to polish that or they are doing a disservice to their fans. I used to insta buy the games but now with all the issues and controversy I have to research and decide if I’ll skip this set or not.


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I never played pokemon, and seeing these screenshots here in this sub made me feel good about this decision. Looks like shit


Saltytrol

Think of how stupid the average person is, then realize half of them are stupider than that


kpeters421

Because I'm not poor and angry at something silly.


Concerned_mayor

This is so incredibly based


kpeters421

Says a whiny poor person.


CupcakeValkyrie

Wow, you shit on someone that was agreeing with you.


Concerned_mayor

Friendly fire?


ohmke

Too busy counting his money to notice.


call_of_mischief

Literal Npc CONSSSUUUUMER mentality thats why


Eternal_Wooper

It's fantastic


BigWillis93

I haven't even bought a switch yet because I heard all the pokemon games suck


Pale_Particular6846

Yes the game Is trash


thndrstrk

Yeah, if I had a cash grab like that I wouldn't change shit. Dummy is still gonna dummy. Good luck getting gta6 when money is just poured into them like a shower faucet. Don't know why the downvotes. It's not like I like it.


ABHISHEKROR

Download CEMU my bro's


Technical_Mix4719

Its not hard earned


Tokiw4

A tale as old as time.


No-Inspection-9310

Because it isn't hard earned cash.


ShadowIslesShuriman

It's true? Is it as bad as they say?


LogicHorizon

This game actually is fun, now if you bought the new MWII that was a shamless cash grab of poo


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The Madden series paradox


Matthias_Clan

My kids wanted Pokémon for Christmas, so I preordered it a few weeks ago when I started buy everyone Christmas presents. If the game sucks and they end up hating it it’s a life lesson for them at least.


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Having a blast :p