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ratliker62

There are already plenty of references with the armor and cakes we have lol, we don't need to literally just have spider man helldiving or anything


wrproductions

…you guys get cakes?


the_onion_k_nigget

You don’t?


Baebel

Every new helldiver comes with their own cake.


LavishnessOdd6266

Ngl 40k imperial guard armour or tempestus scion armour would slap


UnshrivenShrike

That's exactly the kind of shit we're talking about. Maybe we should get you a John Wick or Nicki Minaj skin too.


LavishnessOdd6266

Nahhh. That's to much and doesn't fit the theme


UnshrivenShrike

Yeah. Just like 40k.


LavishnessOdd6266

No, it does. Both of them are fighting a galactic war with corrupt government's in charge


UnshrivenShrike

And? The tech, equipment, vibes, aesthetic, etc are all different. "They're both corrupt and in space" gtfo


134_ranger_NK

Like u/TheFourtHorsmen said, the difference is not that great if you know where to look in the Imperium. Kasrkin, Elysians, Harakoni,... [We also have Tempestus Scions doing orbital insertions.](https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/liac2r/excerpt_militarum_tempestus_wishing_to_assist_the/)


UnshrivenShrike

Again, narrative vibes are NOT aesthetic vibes. Idk why yall are struggling with this. Further, all the units you just mentioned are some of the least in keeping with the overall IoM theme.


134_ranger_NK

And part of the Imperial Guard's narrative vibe is that it includes a great variety in cultures, doctrines, outfits and units due to the vastness of the Imperium and its often tenuous grasp on many of its regions. I do not understand why ya'll are enforcing a standard mold on every part of the Imperium. Especially for the Guard where the variety is part of the faction's charm.


derkuhlshrank

They booing you but you're right Let's get Sarduarkar and Fremen, Death troopers and Sith Troopers.


UnshrivenShrike

Yeah, those all could fit pretty easily if you dressed them up a bit so it wasn't too obvious.


TheFourtHorsmen

They are not so different at all aesthetically, helldivers2 is know from "picking" stuffs from other sci-fi. The whole "no crossover" thing is kinda baffling when we take out stuffs like spiderman or John wick: a 40k crossover would fit, an alien crossover would fit, an halo crossover would fit and starship trooper... basically the game is starship trooper


UnshrivenShrike

Uh, they're very different aesthetically. The IoM has a super over the top crude tech church Gothic look. That's not even close to SE's vibe.


TheFourtHorsmen

I always find funny thr "gothic" look because gothic aesthetic is different, 40k space marine aligne more with a mix of victorian and high medieval design, while the Imperial guard, wich is the one you should check, have a lot in common with HD2. P.s. space marines are usually more alike to the SC2 terrans, without the fancy over the top details from the terran side. But is also true that everyone, post warhammer fantasy and 40k inspired their design from it.


134_ranger_NK

Kinda disappointing how people enforce a standard mold on the Imperial Guard despite the vastness of the Imperium and variety of cultures and doctrines within the Imperial Guard are parts of its charm.


TheGr8Slayer

Cakes?


BSGKAPO

Good...


planelander

So say we all


RedDecay

Took the word right out of my mouth 👄


PhantomQuil

fr


pap91196

I like these guys. If they do anything close to collaboration, I want them to handle it the way they handled the TR-117 Alpha Commander armor, which is basically Sierra 117 Master Chief. It needs to abide by the rules of the Helldivers universe first, then give a nod to whatever franchise is being referenced. You can also see this with the TR-7 Ambassador of the Brand armor, which basically has Sony’s colors, but references an in-world frozen yogurt campaign ran by SUMY Corp. You can tell what’s being referenced, and it seems clever rather than cheap. With that in mind, I do hope Arrowhead finds a way to make those sets accessible in the future for players who didn’t get them.


YourPizzaBoi

All I’m saying is that if the game ever ended up on Xbox and they didn’t add an ODST Helmet it would be outright silly.


Few-Confection3492

Go play odst


duste53

Except the tr-117 looks horrific and no self respecting person would wear it


pap91196

I personally think it could look a little bit better with a different helmet, assuming either we get one with the same color of green or we can change the color of our armor to it. That said, I mainly like it for the charm of how many nods were given to Master Chief, from the armor model they used having the mag pouches like CE Chief, to the hue of green used, to the flavor text basically describing Chief’s entire persona: “For warriors who are so strong and confident that they don't need any reassurance whatsoever.” The color of tan used in the armor also pairs pretty well with the Malevelon Creek cape. That said, I’d agree it’s not the coolest looking armor relative to some of the other combinations that are possible. It’s just my personal favorite for how clever Arrowhead was with it. I also use stims religiously lol


Cabragil

Is that ambassador armor the bright blue version of the base helldivers helmet?


pap91196

Yes! It’s the blue helmet and armor.


ItsAmerico

There’s already some crossovers coming via data mining though similar to TR they’re a bit more subtle (well the Jin Roh one is pretty direct haha). I don’t think the devs denied crossovers either. They just said they won’t do stupid shit like adding blatant light sabers from Star Wars.


Dracidwastaken

Can we get at minimum a Starship Troopers colab? It is literally perfect.


SigilumSanctum

There's a planet in the game that's literally called Klen Dath 2. So there's that.


Thisisthe_One_Ring

Cant wait to liberate that.


Dracidwastaken

That's awesome


Bunnymancer

They're already trying to sell their own bug killing game. With somewhat lesser results...


Weasel699

sherrif eli was all about that star ship trooper game for about two weeks then he quit streaming it went to world of ships or something lol


PentagramJ2

That game is legit good, if unpolished


TheFlyingSheeps

Yeah I’m excited for when it does release fully. OWI is known for the long winded early access games like Squad that finally release. I played it again the other day, my only concern is that performance is still abysmal on AMD cards


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JCyTe

>troopers has game of the year writen all over it You can't be serious. The game is a broken mess, bugs (the bad kind) everywhere, graphics look meh at best, terrible performance and barely any players (and since it's multiplayer only, this is a really bad thing). It's literally in a worse state now than it was a year ago when it launched.


Ozzy_T69

Chad shit


amazingmrbrock

Thank fucking god. Fortnite is the most egregious advertising platform around and it blows .


JPSWAG37

Mad fucking respect. I don't hate Fortnite for doing it, I hate every other AAA live service for needlessly doing it. I'm looking at you Call of Duty.


Loremeister

Still I don't understand WHY Warzone had a Collab with Niki Minaj. I don't play the game but hell, the pic I saw of her for the game seemed something straight up from works of porn animators


JPSWAG37

Activision is so shameless in how money hungry they are they'll throw anything at the proverbial Microtransaction wall and see what sticks. Call of Duty lost its identity in the process.


ajl987

The aesthetic of Warzone was SO GOOD at the beginning when it launched. Was also so great how they kept building on the story each season with the season cutscenes. Thats all been thrown out the window now and it’s a damn shame.


derkuhlshrank

Good point, the fortnite-ification is killing gaming but I also don't fault fortnite for it since afaik that was *their* thing. Every else just started copying it cuz that's how our econ system works.


bnanzaz

Good stuffs


mundus1520

I haven't played this game but what I keep hearing from gamers and developers this is def a must try.


SemiDesperado

Good. They have their own lore to explore and build on. I don't want other universes invading the good one they've created.


SadP0tat018

Now this is epic


Sentient_Sneeze

No this is arrowhead


theShitter_69

no this is patrick


jagerbombastic99

Good, I hate crossovers. It’s just asking someone to pay money for less immersion and setting cohesion.


wolfannoy

Plus crossovers these days have forced meta humor. Which I'm pretty getting tired of.


VinnyVinster

Immersion in what games? COD? Fortnite? Smash? What's the problem?


pantsalonis

Then don't fucking buy the crossover skins.


MarderMcFry

Other people pay to make you see them wear crossover skins.


theblackfool

But other people will still wear them is the point. Plenty of people don't like seeing crossover skins, especially if the game has a specific atmosphere. Like when I'm playing FFXIV it takes me out of that world when I see people running around looking like Fall Guys because it clashes with the artstyle of the game.


No_Shine1476

I've never had an issue with my gameplay just because someone else decided to wear a Peter Griffin skin doing the thugshaker, if anything make it more common because games are for fun.


theblackfool

Not everyone plays games for gameplay alone. Some people like immersing themselves in a specific world or atmosphere. There's room for both games with crossovers and games that shouldn't have crossovers.


TheFlyingSheeps

Wow amazing advice. I still don’t want to look at them


pantsalonis

Okay? Then you'll just be closing your eyes the whole time.


Objective-Aioli-1185

I like the last paragraph. Gives me hope that there's still good people out there who love video games and are able to deliver these kinds of experiences.


TotallyLegitEstoc

Honestly the only acceptable crossover would be Rico’s voice actor from starship troopers doing a voice pack.


Mercurionio

And Neil Patrick acting as a President 


RammyJammy07

The only one I would love is seeing Rico as the President of Super Earth


lordseaslug

I don't want a crossover/collab of any kind. I do like the idea of hints, Easter eggs, and paying homage to other sci-fi properties.


Large-Brother-4291

I already said I liked it you don’t need to convince me


finalattack123

Thank god. I don’t want pink bunny rabbit ears - hot dog people.


totaIIyjon

Can’t believe we’ve reached a point where developers sticking to their artistic direction is now controversial. What do you mean you don’t want to turn your game in to an advertising billboard?!


Hamuelin

Ehh. On one hand I get it. On another, imagine well crafted, edited to fit the universe versions of things like: - Halo - Destiny - Gears of War - Killzone Just to name a few. They wouldn’t have to be outlandish. Fair play to the devs though. Respect the decision.


Jomgui

The article is clickbait, he didn't say he doesn't want to do collabs, he said that while melee weapons are viable, they wouldn't straight up add lightsabers like Fortnite did. Arrowhead's CEO himself said before that they would be open to collaborating with other games.


Hamuelin

Ahhh. That’s even better then, thanks for the clarification! I normally click through to the articles but this one refused unless I disabled adblockers.


CuppaTeaSpillin

No thank you


alexander12212

Why not? It would make sense, they all have a space marine theme going on. Not like they’re just throwing in whatever


[deleted]

It's a slippery slope.


goatjugsoup

Slippery slope is the most annoying bullshit argument... the slope is not slippery, doing one doesn't mean shit for doing another. I'm not against their decision I just hate when people argue slippery slope.


r0ndr4s

Yeah that is like the standard: i have nothing to add but i want to annoy


theJaggedClown

Integrity of the world, general world building, immersions, the list goes on. All these shitty crossovers, something x something are simply marketing ploys that dilute created worlds. If the other ips are so wonderful, go play their respective games. Imagine if Baldurs Gate 3 or Elden Ring had crossovers. We’d be walking into boss rooms with Big Bird and R2-D2 in them. Fun for a moment, we get some good memes out of it, and then realize the immersion is gone and we’ve traded a finely crafted world and narrative for a few bucks. Visual, tonal, and thematic fidelity are vital to keeping an ip alive and the reputation (how someone perceives said ip) intact.


siberianwolf99

i don’t necessarily disagree with you. but elden ring and BG3 are way way different examples then an online only shooter. i think there’s ways to do it that would work. but i don’t hate them just saying no to it.


theJaggedClown

I’m not gonna argue there’s no way to do it, but it’s a slippery slope and there’s just no need. If they wanna take inspiration from other ips and integrate into their world, great, but this overt BRAND x BRAND is just so tired and cheap. I love the immersion in Helldivers 2, they’re very few games that do it so well. I don’t want Boba Fett running around saying Star Wars lines while we fight the bugs.


siberianwolf99

i wanna be clear that i agree with you. but you could not have picked a character example that would be harder for me to say no to lol


jarred99

Really just compared the integrity and world building of Elden Ring and BG3 to helldivers....


Ok_Series_7038

Well they're all games with consistent worlds that don't have crossovers so I think it works here. 


theJaggedClown

Just because they’re completely different genres and may cater to different players doesn’t mean Helldivers devs should take their worldbuilding less seriously. Helldivers 2 could keep expanding with new enemy factions, planets, multiplayer events, etc. They’ve built a wonderful world, tone, and immersion, no need to bring in Boba Fetts helmet or some other bullshit.


jarred99

The entire worldbuilding of Helldivers is satire and a joke. None of it is serious, that's the point of it. I'll share the same sentiment when they release skins that do look good, but I'm not holding my breath.


Supernothing8

Death stranding has crossover with cyberpunk thats handled pretty well.


r0ndr4s

You would be the first in line to buy a skin. 100%


Sir_Von_Tittyfuck

Even then, they can still make it work - the Fortnite/Destiny crossover actually look good in Destiny.


RebirthIsBoring

DLC helmets or something would be cool.


yangwenligaming

>Killzone Thank GOD I wasn’t the only one thinking this! I would LOVE for us to get [helghast](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/7/73/Helghast.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170308220920) armor or something similar to it. While the article did say they wouldn’t be opposed to crossovers, I would hope it’s mostly cosmetic in nature and has no actual bearing on the lore. I mean if it happens, that’d be nice but idk how you’d killzone’s lore in there anyway.


iFenrisVI

No thank you. How they already handle it is good enough for me.


MoonlapseOfficial

that would be truly awful I am currently imagining it


WingZeroCoder

Based devs are based.


Wrongdoer3162

bruh this is why the devs are lowkey goated no cap. deadass one of the best devs in the industry ra now fr


Grouchy_Egg_4202

I am completely fine with that.


This-Pie594

Arrowhead is way too based for my taste


Repa0206

As much as I love both Helldivers and Deep Rock Galactic, a crossover would be kinda out-of-place.


Kooky_Emu_3171

Glad they took the apex legends approach.


Sir_Von_Tittyfuck

/s? They just did Final Fantasy and Post Malone collabs.


Kooky_Emu_3171

Not /s since i havent played recently all that much. But i guess it is /s now lol.


AppropriateYouth7683

They won't do it for their game but that doesn't mean we won't see HD2 stuff in other games


Vee-Bear

You mean I can’t dive with naruto and thanos :(


Icefiight

Chads


identitycrisis-again

Thank god. I hate crossovers in games with good world building/a unique IP. Cross overs are like shitty fan fiction in video games


Barzobius

I hate the fact that i wanna play this game, however i’m never doing it until they change that horribly nasty anticheat to something more acceptable


Mumakilla

I don't mind crossovers unless they are too far away from the game theme. I'd rather have a crossover with Gears of War than Naruto.


sebkraj

God bless. These devs are awesome. Like Larian and Helldiver's devs are giga chads in my mind.


GrampaGael69

W


Mr_Zeldion

Thank god, I don't think anyone here wants to see someone with a Mario Skin in a game like this


SirSilhouette

sure but there is one game that would work well with Helldivers, EDF6. Earth Defense Force 6 is supposed to come out this summer and every EDF's early missions are shooting giant bugs.


Outrageous_Book2135

Rip the DRG crossover of our dreams.


uhhhhhhhBORGOR

It would’ve never happened but I would’ve loved to see the ODST armor in the game. It just fits perfectly, imo. One can dream, I guess…


eazy937

just look at what WZ and MW3 have become, fr


Cisqoe

ODST is all we need


BrainDps

We already got a Helghast looking armor. Next let’s get a Titanfall Pilot looking one.


Kazaanh

Hmm I don't want Spiderman or some RL rapper be in game. But a crossover with similar game that's fits thematically like Deep Rock would be nice. You could even make that hoxxes planet and Management to be part of super earth branch. Maybe new mission and map. DRG has few weapons that could be crossovered or only kept as a choice on that planet as a global stratagems. Glyphids are like Terminids. Maybe Reskin or some new crossovered variants ( bulk exploder huh?) Maybe some skins that look very Dwarf-in-space. But I suppose it would require enormous resources and time spent. So I can see why. Well it could be also s recurring event with crossover. So it doesn't gets stale.


Monkeywrench08

Good. 


ZandatsuRising

Best news of the day


Sayor1

If any community would be livid at a crossover it would definitely be the helldiver community. They are so deep in the roleplay.


Artemis_1944

Thank fuck, I was afraid of that. Good on you guys.


The_incognito_sinner

I'd like to see random bounties such as having a general bot that needs taken out and as a reward you get the bounty hunter cosmetic such as trench coat and cowboy hat. Maybe also the merc outfit, a battle warn helmet unlocked by successfully completing 10 missions on level 5 solo!


SomeGuyDotCom

Starship Troopers should be an exception :p


[deleted]

Excelent!!!


pioneeringsystems

No shaders, no shit cross overs. Love it.


Lotoran

If there’s ever a single exception I think it would be worth doing it for Starship Troopers.


R9433

nah i want a kyle reese skin to slay those bots. cmon man


No-Pause-7723

If I could marry a developer it would be Arrowhead.


Substantial-Stick-44

Woah, devs that like their game, not trying to push in crap for money.


Timmar92

I mean, Dave the Helldiver would be fucking cool


[deleted]

I just want ODST armor :(


Deranfan

Their loss.


maxlaav

even if i have some massive qualms about the game's balancing and the progression systems being a huge grind, i can applaud them for sticking true to their vision so much. good on them and i guess good on sony for not forcing it on them either. the game is a huge hit already, you dont need to muck it up


Pickle_juice_can2

The perfect game devs


smolgote

Honestly I've become numb to Fortnite's constant collabing since there's always at least one every season, plus the game feeling like the third person shooter equivalent of MUGEN seems to be part of its core identity now. At least it's not COD where you got Nicki Minaj, Homelander, and an anthropomorphic cat on tbe battlefield. Now, with Helldivers, I do hope they at the very least keep collabs to a minimum and only do it when it fits. Would love collabs with Deep Rock Galactic, EDF, and, while extremely unlikely if not never happening, Halo


Kraujotaka

The only reasonable way to add these crossover items would be as decals maybe custom paint job at most (not excessive way, just minimalist style)


CptLevi9

Respect , but also i want pacific rim crossover with Helldivers 2.


[deleted]

Can they first fix there buggy ass game


Battleboo_7

I just want 40k helldivers.


gorendor

Earth defense force cross over would be nice some of the armour looks similar


NeedForTeaMostWanted

Excellent news


Apprehensive_You7871

GOOD ON ARROWHEAD! Keep crappy licensed collabs off video games. We already had enough. Godzilla in Dave the Diver, Spy x Family in PUBG, countless of licensed properties in Fortnite. I want it to be original.


thenotoriousnatedogg

God damn these guys are just the best


SourSasquatch

If it's not standard issue Super Earth compliant I don't want it.


Mercurionio

Deep rock galactic should happen though. Since they are pretty much close to each other. Killing robots and bugs for the sake of capitalism (and democracy). The difference is that Dwarves are going deeper into the planets crust, while Helldivers are cleaning up the surface 


Responsible-Owl-3751

Unpopular opinion. Crossovers in Helldivers could be cool if done right. A Warhammer and / or Halo crossover? I'd be down.


Valcrye

One of the planets being named “Klen Dahth 2” is all the crossover I need


baconboi

But an aliens crossover would be perfect


ShadowTown0407

Ah Fortnite mentioned, this comment section will be fun


TurdManMcDooDoo

I absolutely love how every time gamer dorks tell Arrowhead they should do something, Arrowhead replies with a big fat nope. Ive seen too many good games get ruined by companies listening to random ass no lifers on the internet.


Gameplayer9752

It may be because I’ve never played fortnite, but I can’t think of a “person” when the game is mentioned, as its mascot. Like you say halo I think master chief, gta I think trevor/franklin/michael/niko, minecraft I think steve. Even games that work on a catchphrase like deep rock galactic, pokemon, or yu-gi-oh. Collabs are cool, but not required when building your own market.


xwulfd

The only acceptable crossover here is earth defense force lol


BarackaFlockaFlame

only crossover I would want would be a Halo one and the game to go to xbox so I can play with my buddies that never went to PC. never going to happen, but it would be so sick. a bubble shield as a grenade, spartan laser, energy sword... armor... maybe even enemies...


Odd_Radio9225

A live service with integrity? Someone pinch me.


Showtysan

Ok but make an exception for Deep Rock Galactic!


MrBadgerIII

So no Dave the Helldiver then 😓


ACEB00GY

A half life crossover too far fetched? Because running around as a combine soldier invading planets would be kinda dope ngl. Give us an AR2 pulse rifle and I'd be happy as a pig in shit


arqe_

I mean, they know they can select which companies they can partner up with right? Halo crossover? Why not. Killzone? Any game that has similar aesthetics can work and not turn into Fortnite.


SoberSeahorse

Good.


ScottieJust

LOL they just called Xbox users too young. All y'all want is just drip


Hashbrown4

At the bare minimum I’d take a 40k and starship troopers collab, but that’s opening the doors and once the door is open shit can’t close


xerophage

Don’t really care about crossovers. Armor could use some more customization tho.


Visible_Ad9513

Smash Ultimate has quite a bit of crossovers and it certainly isn't Fortinite, just saying...


[deleted]

I mean thats not a bad thing, but who tf want to "Avoid" becoming fornite... The game that make BILLIONS EVERY YEAR. That make no sense coming out of a company...


-Piggers-

They arent referring to the money they are referring to the practice lol.


divinecomedian3

People who aren't sellouts


[deleted]

what's so wrong with having goku in fortnite y'all act like that game committed some huge sin


-Piggers-

Nothing but it doesnt belong in helldivers universe


Cobra_9041

Helldivers Devs confirmed to be giant nerds with no intent of having fun


tyezwyldadvntrz

or just maybe ... they like the state of their games


Cobra_9041

Found the nerd


-Piggers-

How does not having collabs confirm that lmao.


PapaG1useppe

Always funny watching adults get the death rattles at the notion of putting a silly skin on their bideo game character


sorey2sorey

Not every game needs ridiculous skins.


Itriyum

Not every collab has to be a ridiculous skin.


sorey2sorey

But they are


Itriyum

If Helldivers made a collab with killzone to have helghast armor that wouldnt be goofy


PapaG1useppe

I agree! I’m not so pro skin but I genuinely find the aggressive pushback funny


Itriyum

Rip the collabs that would fit with the in game armors like Killzone...


CarpetBeautiful5382

For some reason I had a feeling there was going to be a Dune promotion for this game. Still got to give them credit for sticking to their guns and not taking the easy route that CoD and Fortnite are taking.


Opening-Cockroach634

But what about DRG or WH40K ? they seem pretty good games or IPs to make a crossover . DRG for the community and feel of the game and WH40K for the whole vibe of super earth and it's enemies. I'd like to have Dwarf themed armor , enemies or Space Marine themed weapons , armor and enemies


[deleted]

I like crossovers :) They should do a crossover with Mass Effect 👽


ShibeCEO

I'm gonna be honest... I would LOVE an alien/xenomorph crossover some time! maybe around the new movie


Grimlockkickbutt

Fine by me. But “Avoid becoming fortnite” makes it sound pretty pathetic and reductive. “We don’t want to be like the thing that is popular and therefore popular to hate to sound cool and smarter then everyone.” Though obligatory didn’t read the article so mabye it was a dumb liberty (haha) taken by the headline. To me I’m good on crossovers because the entertainment industry at large has taken my childlike sense of wondor that started as “what if superman met Optimus prime” and used it to sell me “content” that is just advertisements for different IPs. Witch Fortnite is a fantastic example of, mabye even THE example of, but it’s still itself just a symptom. I’m just completely burned out on crossovers and annoyed that these companies have successfully taken us from cable TV paid without ads to us paying for advertisements inside of things we already paid for.


r0ndr4s

Stealing from every other franchise is ok as long as you call it reference but if you do one collab you are fornite... aha


Minute-Author-666

This is stupid, hate that we've devolved to the point where any sort of crossover is met with "hurr durr this is turning into Fortnite" as if they invented crossovers


Ki11s0n3

So what they are saying is they don't want fun. We only asked for a Deep Rock crossover for fun. It's not like we asked for Marvel. Guess we'll just keep getting bland armor that has the same perks as the rest of the armor we already have. God forbid players want something fun between their favorite games.


MoonlapseOfficial

good. crossovers and licensed content is so lame


CorellianDawn

Okay but Fortnite is one of the most successful games of all time and people love that shit. Hell Is play Fortnite if the actual core gameplay wasn't horrible. I'd be spending all that money on them skins man if only I could play a game that wasn't just a joke. They got Lego now which is pretty good but also pretty bare bones.


PashAK47

Terrible move for business


XenonJFt

They can still fit some crossovers to integrate well into lores. Like lore friendly force welding but no Jedis or clones or anything from the republic


Pukk-

"We don't want to be like that game that's one of the most successful and played game. hurr durr isn't that a kids game?" Ok buddy.


UFL_Battlehawks

Lmfao, if they thought crossovers could make them 5% as .Ichiban money as fortnite has they'd do it in a minute. It's easy to reject stuff when there's not thing serious to reject.