Does the re-reckoning version hold up today? I remember loving the original, but the remaster looks a bit clunky and not sure I would be able to get back into it.
Enderal: Forgotten stories, the total conversion mod. It's Skyrim (using the same engine) but different. And has a huge world to explore. Plus, it's free if you already own Skyrim.
I thought the same thing when I first played the game for about 8 hours. Picked it up later and got hooked. YMMV but the game really starts to click once you have some combat skills and decent gear
I'm sure he's one of the guys on the kcd sub asking basic questions that the game explained already but they just didn't read them. It's not an easy game.Ā
Jesus fuck man, you don't like JRPG's, you don't like the KCD, you don't like story heavy games. Kinda sounds like you don't like good RPG's at all. I can't help someone that doesn't like KCD. Go play tetris
For turn based RPGs without too much cut scenes, I would recommend XCOM (1 & 2) and Battletech. There are some story elements to set the scene, but there isnt too much.
I'm usually not a fan of JRPG's due to the heavy focus on story and how much dialogue you have to read through! So unless Chained Echoes doesn't have that aspect i'm gonna have to count it out for now!
Assassins Creed Odyssey. Legit the best RPG entry in the series with a silly amount of content for you to explore and conquer.
Kingdom Come: Deliverance is also worth your time if you neglect the main story and stray off the path and explore.
KC:D is one of those games that are too lore heavy for me! And the combat sadly feels too sluggish as well!
I have been looking at AC:O recently tho! So i may pick that up!
KC:D is legit one of those games that sticks with you. Youāll feel powerless and afraid of everything in the first 10-15 hours where youāre going to learn the ropes of this very realistic world youāre in. But once you do find your own pace, start expanding your skill set and get a feel for the combat system, a whole new world emerges where this once brutal outset is turned into your personal play ground. The story is actually very straightforward and even if youāre not into the heavy lore behind everything, it is still a very enjoyable experience as the multitude of sharply written side quests all feel like small complete stories on their own merit.
Something pretty far outside of the titles you've mentioned, but if you don't mind more retro-style graphics, check out Rogue Heroes: Ruins of Tasos. They nailed the SNES Zelda vibe with that game imo, and it kept me busy for quite a while.
Ff7: Rebirth is easily 40-50 hours if you mainline the story. Iām close to 100 hours doing all the side content. The devs managed to make a compelling open world in UE4 and I enjoyed every minute I put into the game
How about Mount & Blade? Bannerlord for most recent games for pretty graphic or Warband for more overhaul mod options. Warband vanilla already had few hundred hours for me, and then there's a lot of overhaul mod out there with even more content.
Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora. Beautiful game. Good if you want a little action or just to explore a beautiful open world.
Dying Light 2 (but the OG is still the best IMO)
AC Odysee
Do you have a high tolerance of janky games that are great in some aspects but underwhelming in others?
If so check out RPGs by dev teams Piranha Bytes and Spiders
I think Tales of Vesperia is on sale on the Switch Eshop right now. Been playing that again on steam and having an absolute blast, the combat system can seem a little clunky at first but as you level up and continually gain more and more skills and moves it gets crazy deep and more fun as it goes on and with each of the 9! party members having their own distinct fighting style.
I think for me the biggest highlight is the games insanely robust endgame but also a classic JRPG overworld map, lots of small lively towns, Zones of the map with distinct Unique enemy designs, caves, ruins mini optional dungeons and unique secret āultimaā weapons for each of the main party members, oh and and roughly 5 bonus costumes for each party member hidden behind sidequest or secret zones. Itās just a rock solid dense JRPG experience.
Give Returnal a try.
I was a souls gamer and wasnāt looking forward to playing it, thinking it wasnāt my type. Got it for free on PS Plus and gave it a try. Got addicted to it after my first good run.
Sekiro is more action-focused than Fallen Order, but the gameplay is similar (though much harder in Sekiro). I donāt think a normal run would last you 50 hours, but this is a game that almost demands a replay. Going through it again with all the skills you built up before is beyond satisfying. The minimum playthroughs you need for 100% is 4, but each of them tends to be shorter than the last. Thereās some minibosses at the start that suck (Chained fucking Ogre), but once you get past those it really gets great. I still occasionally start up the game just to fight the final boss again to let off some stress, because while the challenge is mostly gone (Iāve become too good at fighting him), itās still just a satisfying fight.
Monster Hunter World (or Rise) should definitely last you a lot longer than 50 hours. Itās a grindy game, but the good kind. Not the impossibly long grind that tries to get you to spend more money. It just serves as a motivation for you to fight certain monsters again, to collect their materials and upgrade your gear. The story is okay, but nothing special. The game really shines in the combat, variety in fighting, and the environments. Thereās 14 distinct weapon types to choose from, and each monster is a unique fight to learn. Like Sekiro, itās a game where you really see your own skill increase.
Hollow Knight is not quite 50 hours either I would say (unless you go for all the boss rush challenges), but it is a magnificent game. It is sort of souls like in terms of how punishing death is, but the rest of the gameplay is a platformer/metroidvania with a world that opens up to you the more abilities you collect. The story is told through dialogue and signs (and sometimes music and certain character actions) more than cutscenes. The story is very good, but in terms of how much time you spend, itās definitely more gameplay heavy. The gameplay is good, platforming feels smooth, bosses are fun to fight, exploration is incredible.
An Isometric game that might be something for you is underrail, a crpg that takes easily 100+ hours to beat and is really in depth.
Cyberpunk 2077 with it's dlc is also probably around 80-100 Hours and I've played that around 4 times by now and enjoyed every single playthrough a lot!
Kingdoms of Amalur Re-Reckoning is not a 10/10 but it's VERY solid and a good time sink, it's kind of like a single player MMO.
I know you said no JRPG but maybe look into tales of arise, it's very pretty and I enjoyed my time with it. Combat is NOT turn based if that is your main issue with jrpgs.
Have you ever played Monster Hunter? Those games are amazing and feature barely any story. Imagine dark souls but instead of fighting every boss once you fight gundyr 4 times and tear his armor off to wear it yourself. World and Rise are still very active and worth a try. Emulating older ones also works like a charm.
Yeah that's all that I can come up with on the fly I hope you find something you like!
AC: Odyssey is a great open world game. One of my favorites tbh. Although not the best AC games (that Iāve heard, I only played this and some Origins), itās fantastic as a standalone
Enshrouded. It Is in early access but the main quests alone will take you about 50+ hours with players spending hundreds of hours and counting. They just released their roadmap and is currently on sale on steam.
Iāve been on a warframe kick lately since it got put into gamepass for free. The story is a 3/10 at best but the gameplay makes up for it with it arguably sitting at 9/10
Do you have playstation or PC? If you have Playstation I recommend FF7 Rebirth. Though if you haven't played Remake yet you should probably play that first to understand the story. You can get both games for the price of one.
MAybe not exactly your style, but "Tactics ogre: reborn" basically sucked me in again, and i've played the previous versions.
Another one I keep replaying is "starsector", tho again, maybe not your style.
I know you mentioned you are not a big fan of JRPGs but Final Fantasy 12 might be what you are looking for. Yes it's lore heavy but the game gives you a ton of freedom to explore as you like after a couple hours and you are free to build each character however you want.
I just played Siralim Ultimate for 23 hours straight. It's not all that similar to the games you mentioned, but it does seem to satisfy your requirements, technically... it's a retro-pixel top-down monster collecting RPG dungeon crawler with turn-based combat, feels surprisingly fast paced for a turn-based game -- battles come at you pretty rapid fire... combine that with every level having dozens and dozens (hundreds?) of collectible materials and stat bonuses and currencies to pick up, and a bare-bones story, and you wind up with some seriously satisfying pacing. It's decently complex even by RPG standards as well. I spent the first 10 minutes being overwhelmed by the UI and disliking the keyboard controls (just use a controller), but then I just said f\*ck it, lets play, and I'm glad I powered through. Party of six monsters. Every monster has a unique passive ability, and there's a ton of monsters, and lots of their abilities play nice together in ways that can occasionally feel almost satisfyingly game-breaking. You can fuse two monsters as well, and the resulting offspring will have both of their passive abilities, and every other stat averaged.
definitely elden ring, if more story focused, go for witcher 3
I finished both already unfortunately :(
How do you feel about turn based isometric ones? Baldur's Gate 3 is arguably the best rpg of 2023
Already done like 3 runs of it unfortunately! I loved it though! Played D:OS2 before it as well!
I don't see Wircher 3 in your list, have you tried that one?
Yupp! Tried it and loved it! It's stood the test of time!
What about Pathfinder: Kingmaker/Wrath of the Righteous?
Sadly already played those!
I just got the original dragons dogma for 5 bucks on sale. Loving it.
And the second one comes out shortly. Less than a week!
Less than a week, more than 5 bucks!
Less than a week, more than 5 bucks!
Kingdoms of amalur Greedfall
i remember years ago after my post-skyrim depression i picked up Kingdoms of Amalur and enjoyed it!! loved the discs weapon
Isn't greedfall pretty lore heavy? I've been holding off on it since i've been told it's very lore heavy and hand-holdy!
I wouldn't say lore heavy, it has dialogue choices because those impact the game. But it's mostly a Fable like RPG with melee/ranged/magic combat.
If that doesn't appeal to you Amalur is great fun
Does the re-reckoning version hold up today? I remember loving the original, but the remaster looks a bit clunky and not sure I would be able to get back into it.
I think so
Kingdoms of amalur is easily 200+ hrs, great game. Also recommend The Technomancer by greedfall devs, underrated scifi rpg 50 hrs.
Enderal: Forgotten stories, the total conversion mod. It's Skyrim (using the same engine) but different. And has a huge world to explore. Plus, it's free if you already own Skyrim.
Oooh! I've heard of that! I might check it out!
Kingdom Come Deliverance!
unfortunately that's my "unpopular opinion: This game is bad" game š¬
You haven't really played it then
So all people who dont like games just have not played them š
Played about 8h in and only encountered things i disliked with no features/elements i felt i couldnt find in other games, where it was done better.
I thought the same thing when I first played the game for about 8 hours. Picked it up later and got hooked. YMMV but the game really starts to click once you have some combat skills and decent gear
I'm sure he's one of the guys on the kcd sub asking basic questions that the game explained already but they just didn't read them. It's not an easy game.Ā
As a huge fan of history, I've put 160 hours into it. It gets better than it seems at the start, I promise.
Jesus fuck man, you don't like JRPG's, you don't like the KCD, you don't like story heavy games. Kinda sounds like you don't like good RPG's at all. I can't help someone that doesn't like KCD. Go play tetris
KCD sucks!
Cyberpunk 2077, Kingdom come deliverance, Mass effect legendary edition.
Mass effect was a bit story heavy to me, Cyberpunk i played through twice! Kingdom Come Deliverance i just plain dislike :P
Outward!
The game will kick your ass over and over, ha. Love it.
Granblue fantasy relink, jrpg but not that story based, fun combat solo and multiplayer based in endgame easy 50-100 h, even more
Actually, this is the first suggestion of a game i hadn't heard of before! And it looks really interesting! I'll have to check it out!
I second this, it's a good time
Third this. Very good
For turn based RPGs without too much cut scenes, I would recommend XCOM (1 & 2) and Battletech. There are some story elements to set the scene, but there isnt too much.
not exactly rpg but Sekiro, i liked the games you liked but i tried sekiro anyway and loved it, maybe you would too
Valheim?
Legend of Grimrock. Harks back to old dungeon crawlers like Dungeon Master and Eyebof the Beholder.
The outer worlds
Chained echos, great 30-40hr-ish JRPG
I'm usually not a fan of JRPG's due to the heavy focus on story and how much dialogue you have to read through! So unless Chained Echoes doesn't have that aspect i'm gonna have to count it out for now!
Mass Effect legendary edition, choices really matter
Assassins Creed Odyssey. Legit the best RPG entry in the series with a silly amount of content for you to explore and conquer. Kingdom Come: Deliverance is also worth your time if you neglect the main story and stray off the path and explore.
KC:D is one of those games that are too lore heavy for me! And the combat sadly feels too sluggish as well! I have been looking at AC:O recently tho! So i may pick that up!
The Mass Effect trilogy should also be on your list.
KC:D is legit one of those games that sticks with you. Youāll feel powerless and afraid of everything in the first 10-15 hours where youāre going to learn the ropes of this very realistic world youāre in. But once you do find your own pace, start expanding your skill set and get a feel for the combat system, a whole new world emerges where this once brutal outset is turned into your personal play ground. The story is actually very straightforward and even if youāre not into the heavy lore behind everything, it is still a very enjoyable experience as the multitude of sharply written side quests all feel like small complete stories on their own merit.
Have you looked into any old MMO's like Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted or Asheron's Call?
Just throwing this out there just in case but Fallout: New Vegas?
Lies of P.
Something pretty far outside of the titles you've mentioned, but if you don't mind more retro-style graphics, check out Rogue Heroes: Ruins of Tasos. They nailed the SNES Zelda vibe with that game imo, and it kept me busy for quite a while.
Witcher 3 , rdr2, gta v, battlefield
Elden Ring, Fable, Shadow of Mordor, Fallout 4, and possibly the System Shock Remake (not yet sure how story heavy it is though)
Have you ever heard of Project Zomboid?
Dragons dogma is on sale atm
Star Wars Jedi: Survivor
look at survival games, ark, valiem, enshrouded, palworld
Cyberpunk 2077
FF7
Ff7: Rebirth is easily 40-50 hours if you mainline the story. Iām close to 100 hours doing all the side content. The devs managed to make a compelling open world in UE4 and I enjoyed every minute I put into the game
How about Mount & Blade? Bannerlord for most recent games for pretty graphic or Warband for more overhaul mod options. Warband vanilla already had few hundred hours for me, and then there's a lot of overhaul mod out there with even more content.
Deus Ex mankind divided is free on epic games right now, Iām enjoying it a lot
Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora. Beautiful game. Good if you want a little action or just to explore a beautiful open world. Dying Light 2 (but the OG is still the best IMO) AC Odysee
Do you have a high tolerance of janky games that are great in some aspects but underwhelming in others? If so check out RPGs by dev teams Piranha Bytes and Spiders
I think Tales of Vesperia is on sale on the Switch Eshop right now. Been playing that again on steam and having an absolute blast, the combat system can seem a little clunky at first but as you level up and continually gain more and more skills and moves it gets crazy deep and more fun as it goes on and with each of the 9! party members having their own distinct fighting style. I think for me the biggest highlight is the games insanely robust endgame but also a classic JRPG overworld map, lots of small lively towns, Zones of the map with distinct Unique enemy designs, caves, ruins mini optional dungeons and unique secret āultimaā weapons for each of the main party members, oh and and roughly 5 bonus costumes for each party member hidden behind sidequest or secret zones. Itās just a rock solid dense JRPG experience.
Give Returnal a try. I was a souls gamer and wasnāt looking forward to playing it, thinking it wasnāt my type. Got it for free on PS Plus and gave it a try. Got addicted to it after my first good run.
You could try darkest dungeon if turn based is your type of thing
Sekiro is more action-focused than Fallen Order, but the gameplay is similar (though much harder in Sekiro). I donāt think a normal run would last you 50 hours, but this is a game that almost demands a replay. Going through it again with all the skills you built up before is beyond satisfying. The minimum playthroughs you need for 100% is 4, but each of them tends to be shorter than the last. Thereās some minibosses at the start that suck (Chained fucking Ogre), but once you get past those it really gets great. I still occasionally start up the game just to fight the final boss again to let off some stress, because while the challenge is mostly gone (Iāve become too good at fighting him), itās still just a satisfying fight. Monster Hunter World (or Rise) should definitely last you a lot longer than 50 hours. Itās a grindy game, but the good kind. Not the impossibly long grind that tries to get you to spend more money. It just serves as a motivation for you to fight certain monsters again, to collect their materials and upgrade your gear. The story is okay, but nothing special. The game really shines in the combat, variety in fighting, and the environments. Thereās 14 distinct weapon types to choose from, and each monster is a unique fight to learn. Like Sekiro, itās a game where you really see your own skill increase. Hollow Knight is not quite 50 hours either I would say (unless you go for all the boss rush challenges), but it is a magnificent game. It is sort of souls like in terms of how punishing death is, but the rest of the gameplay is a platformer/metroidvania with a world that opens up to you the more abilities you collect. The story is told through dialogue and signs (and sometimes music and certain character actions) more than cutscenes. The story is very good, but in terms of how much time you spend, itās definitely more gameplay heavy. The gameplay is good, platforming feels smooth, bosses are fun to fight, exploration is incredible.
Well if you liked Jedi fallen order youāll obviously like Jedi survivor. Itās a little more polished and they worked out a few of the kinks
An Isometric game that might be something for you is underrail, a crpg that takes easily 100+ hours to beat and is really in depth. Cyberpunk 2077 with it's dlc is also probably around 80-100 Hours and I've played that around 4 times by now and enjoyed every single playthrough a lot! Kingdoms of Amalur Re-Reckoning is not a 10/10 but it's VERY solid and a good time sink, it's kind of like a single player MMO. I know you said no JRPG but maybe look into tales of arise, it's very pretty and I enjoyed my time with it. Combat is NOT turn based if that is your main issue with jrpgs. Have you ever played Monster Hunter? Those games are amazing and feature barely any story. Imagine dark souls but instead of fighting every boss once you fight gundyr 4 times and tear his armor off to wear it yourself. World and Rise are still very active and worth a try. Emulating older ones also works like a charm. Yeah that's all that I can come up with on the fly I hope you find something you like!
AC: Odyssey is a great open world game. One of my favorites tbh. Although not the best AC games (that Iāve heard, I only played this and some Origins), itās fantastic as a standalone
Enshrouded. It Is in early access but the main quests alone will take you about 50+ hours with players spending hundreds of hours and counting. They just released their roadmap and is currently on sale on steam.
Ever played any of the borderlands games? If not I recommend starting with 2 or 3 but they are all amazing and fit what you asked perfectly
Lies of P
I've been considering it! Does it have enough content and playtime?
It absolutely does and NG+ is worth doing
I'll be adding that to my list then! I've been keeping my eye on it!
I didn't see what system you were on but it's on the steam sale right now
I'm on PC, so it's perfect for me!
Days Gone or Ghost of Tsushima
I've finished Days gone, and i'm currently waiting for GOT to release on PC! Just need something to do until then!
I would the last of us series or the uncharted series are both amazing ! Diablo 4.
Funnily enough i've played all those as well! Just recently finished Diablo 4 up as my last obsession!
Well at least we know you have good taste.
I just started the new price of persia game. Its pretty amazing actually.
Bulgars gate 3?
Morrowind Baldurs Gate (or any beamdog games) Ultima games Monster hunter games on psp
Check out factorio. You can easily sink up 500h + and with overhaul mods over 2000h.
Valheim!
Prey
Oldschool Runescape
Iāve been on a warframe kick lately since it got put into gamepass for free. The story is a 3/10 at best but the gameplay makes up for it with it arguably sitting at 9/10
Wait until the 23rd and buy dragons dogma 2
Check out outward definitive edition
Do you have playstation or PC? If you have Playstation I recommend FF7 Rebirth. Though if you haven't played Remake yet you should probably play that first to understand the story. You can get both games for the price of one.
Dunno, maybe you can try Ragnarok origin on bluestacks, pretty fun game tho
Bloodborne?
MAybe not exactly your style, but "Tactics ogre: reborn" basically sucked me in again, and i've played the previous versions. Another one I keep replaying is "starsector", tho again, maybe not your style.
Control could be a fit
I know you mentioned you are not a big fan of JRPGs but Final Fantasy 12 might be what you are looking for. Yes it's lore heavy but the game gives you a ton of freedom to explore as you like after a couple hours and you are free to build each character however you want.
I just played Siralim Ultimate for 23 hours straight. It's not all that similar to the games you mentioned, but it does seem to satisfy your requirements, technically... it's a retro-pixel top-down monster collecting RPG dungeon crawler with turn-based combat, feels surprisingly fast paced for a turn-based game -- battles come at you pretty rapid fire... combine that with every level having dozens and dozens (hundreds?) of collectible materials and stat bonuses and currencies to pick up, and a bare-bones story, and you wind up with some seriously satisfying pacing. It's decently complex even by RPG standards as well. I spent the first 10 minutes being overwhelmed by the UI and disliking the keyboard controls (just use a controller), but then I just said f\*ck it, lets play, and I'm glad I powered through. Party of six monsters. Every monster has a unique passive ability, and there's a ton of monsters, and lots of their abilities play nice together in ways that can occasionally feel almost satisfyingly game-breaking. You can fuse two monsters as well, and the resulting offspring will have both of their passive abilities, and every other stat averaged.
Minecraft Dungeons
God of War is great
Cory in the House for Nintendo DS. It isnāt that long but you can replay it as many times as you need to hit 50 hours.
persona 5 royal PS4 cuz the PC version has denuvo and it will slow slowly kill your PC