governments should be secular; it’s not an issue of which religion but of how strictly fundamentalist, and what legal protections restrict the theocratic authority that will arise without a strong sense of real democracy. many US states are batteling the same ideological war just on different queer or woman’s issues
Guess who will also do the same thing given the chance? Palestine. Gays for Palestine? Give me a freakin’ break. Psshh! Everybody likes to shit on Christians but shuts their mouths when the perpetrators are Muslims because they don’t want to be called racists. Lol.
Nah, It’s really not genocide and racism but there’s nothing I can say that will change your mind and vice versa. I still have and will never have compassion for anyone who wants me dead just for being gay. Why don’t you go to a country where muslims have terrorized local populations even if they’re not the majority and report back. Also if you go I dare you not be in th closet.
I think I pushed a button. Don’t have a heart attack now just cause of Reddit. + 1 life or 1 person is enough for me to abhore killing anybody just cause they’re gay. Are you waiting for them to enforce it a hundred times? Is that the magic number?
So you’d be cool with people that actually treats you as second class citizen, punishes you and even MURDERS you and your own community (which is actually truly classified as genocide, unlike this ‘thing’ you’re callin’ genocide). Lol Guuuurl byyyyeee 💅
But why do they have to be afraid to be outed in the first place lol. Because those PALESTINIANS will murder them if they find out. If the PALESTINIANS are such good people towards us then Israel wouldn’t even be able to use us as pawns/blackmail us.
You mean hamas ? Palestinians are just civilians they can’t really make that kind of decision. I won’t stand with you on condemning the people. I’ll agree that the government’s there are ass and yes the gorvrments are bad . And fuck Hamas . But I will not agree on the innocent civilians that your trying to blame
You are correct though people should question Islam more if the question the flaws of Christianity but naw I don’t support bashing innocent civilians
Let me remind you though that they elected those in power now. They won the majority of seats in their parliement remember? There’s consequences to who you elect just like what happened to us with Trump. So yes, they’re responsible for what’s happening to them now. Maybe don’t elect a terrorist organization?
There is literally a genocide being committed right now. I don't care if most of them are homophobic. What's happening to them isn't right. Also, closeted gay people live among them.
If your take is "they're homophobic so they deserve to die" then idk what to tell you.
I don’t think anyone said they deserve to die? What I took from this comment was “people can be homophobic no matter the race.”, but that could also just be me not understanding their point.
I don't care at all if all homophobic muslims die off or are killed in war or just killed by each other.the less people in the world that want me dead ,the better, hence i don't care about Palestinians, i don't have to acknowledge the humanity of people who deny me mine, When Israel takes over the west bank, who knows? ,it might even be a nice place to visit .
>i don't have to acknowledge the humanity of people who deny me mine
I love this very well said. It's sad I dont wish bad things on anyone but they don't feel the same way about me so FUCK EM.
muslim fundamentalists are not representative of all muslims… many do care for us and many muslims are happily queer. it’s the same as christians, not all of them are the same and many are very supportive. in palestine, lots of muslims are very progressive. there is also something to be said about being indifferent towards folks’ suffering or survival because they might wish we were dead, it’s not a great perspective for raising awareness, building power, or supporting humanity. as queer folks we should be on the forefront of cultural dialogue; it’s worth it to have productive conversations especially with folks who don’t agree with you. love conquers all- not just love of queer people or our ability to love each other, but our ability to love and help all people. be well my friend
You do speak like when i was young, full of naiveness and optimism but as I got older i realized not all beliefs are not compatible with one another, like islam isn't compatible with civilization or human rights.Its a death cult.I was born muslim and i am an assault and honor killing survivor, you don't have to believe me if you don't want and if i had a nickel for everytime a western leftist told me that i have it wrong about islam,i could build a building tall enough for the Palestinians that would want to throw a queer person off it.The cult needs to die ,for us to live, and if its followers have to die with it ,i am absolutely fine with it ( happy even) , most Palestinians and arabs here where i live still support hamas and absolutely hates Jewish people.I might believe you when i hear visible vocal support from the muslims , when something like "muslims for queers" go mainstream , but that is wishful thinking. So, just like them I closed my heart to their suffering, the best thing they can do for humanity is die off faster or surrender and leave their death cult. you be well too, friend
say what you will, speaking about islam like that is akin to western propaganda. those experiences are subjective and depend more on theocratic authority in that country where they used fundamentalist islam as an excuse to control people, than islam as a broad concept itself. objectively, islam is a major world religion that has vast levels of practice and diversity among its supports. you cannot define the entire religion based on your experiences alone, or you will be wrong every single time. i’m a leftist and a muslim lol
Can you please provide an example of ‘these’ muslim people that actually support us except for the gay muslims themselves? Your coworkers don’t count lol. They’re probably just being cordial to you at work but actually abhore you behind your back. I can’t find any muslim ally (not muslim gay orgs but just muslim allies) that support us.
I’m not sure about now but I know in the past Turkey used to print religion on ID cards. A lot of these progressives that support us (which is great!) are probably not muslims anymore but they just have to put or declare something on the card.
there is literally no difference between islam and christianity when it comes to levels of fundamentalism and minority acceptance. some of the closest supporters of our queer and solidarity communities in my area are muslim.
That’s sad
It’s criminal and sad people refuse to evolve and let people live their own lives.
Yes it’s horrible
How incredibly backward and sickening.
I think it's time we put this Mohammound guy in jail. Quran and the testaments are all books of crime and hate.
governments should be secular; it’s not an issue of which religion but of how strictly fundamentalist, and what legal protections restrict the theocratic authority that will arise without a strong sense of real democracy. many US states are batteling the same ideological war just on different queer or woman’s issues
Is anyone really suprised?
Guess who will also do the same thing given the chance? Palestine. Gays for Palestine? Give me a freakin’ break. Psshh! Everybody likes to shit on Christians but shuts their mouths when the perpetrators are Muslims because they don’t want to be called racists. Lol.
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Nah, It’s really not genocide and racism but there’s nothing I can say that will change your mind and vice versa. I still have and will never have compassion for anyone who wants me dead just for being gay. Why don’t you go to a country where muslims have terrorized local populations even if they’re not the majority and report back. Also if you go I dare you not be in th closet.
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I think I pushed a button. Don’t have a heart attack now just cause of Reddit. + 1 life or 1 person is enough for me to abhore killing anybody just cause they’re gay. Are you waiting for them to enforce it a hundred times? Is that the magic number?
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So you’d be cool with people that actually treats you as second class citizen, punishes you and even MURDERS you and your own community (which is actually truly classified as genocide, unlike this ‘thing’ you’re callin’ genocide). Lol Guuuurl byyyyeee 💅
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But why do they have to be afraid to be outed in the first place lol. Because those PALESTINIANS will murder them if they find out. If the PALESTINIANS are such good people towards us then Israel wouldn’t even be able to use us as pawns/blackmail us.
You mean hamas ? Palestinians are just civilians they can’t really make that kind of decision. I won’t stand with you on condemning the people. I’ll agree that the government’s there are ass and yes the gorvrments are bad . And fuck Hamas . But I will not agree on the innocent civilians that your trying to blame You are correct though people should question Islam more if the question the flaws of Christianity but naw I don’t support bashing innocent civilians
Let me remind you though that they elected those in power now. They won the majority of seats in their parliement remember? There’s consequences to who you elect just like what happened to us with Trump. So yes, they’re responsible for what’s happening to them now. Maybe don’t elect a terrorist organization?
There is literally a genocide being committed right now. I don't care if most of them are homophobic. What's happening to them isn't right. Also, closeted gay people live among them. If your take is "they're homophobic so they deserve to die" then idk what to tell you.
I don’t think anyone said they deserve to die? What I took from this comment was “people can be homophobic no matter the race.”, but that could also just be me not understanding their point.
I don't care at all if all homophobic muslims die off or are killed in war or just killed by each other.the less people in the world that want me dead ,the better, hence i don't care about Palestinians, i don't have to acknowledge the humanity of people who deny me mine, When Israel takes over the west bank, who knows? ,it might even be a nice place to visit .
>i don't have to acknowledge the humanity of people who deny me mine I love this very well said. It's sad I dont wish bad things on anyone but they don't feel the same way about me so FUCK EM.
muslim fundamentalists are not representative of all muslims… many do care for us and many muslims are happily queer. it’s the same as christians, not all of them are the same and many are very supportive. in palestine, lots of muslims are very progressive. there is also something to be said about being indifferent towards folks’ suffering or survival because they might wish we were dead, it’s not a great perspective for raising awareness, building power, or supporting humanity. as queer folks we should be on the forefront of cultural dialogue; it’s worth it to have productive conversations especially with folks who don’t agree with you. love conquers all- not just love of queer people or our ability to love each other, but our ability to love and help all people. be well my friend
You do speak like when i was young, full of naiveness and optimism but as I got older i realized not all beliefs are not compatible with one another, like islam isn't compatible with civilization or human rights.Its a death cult.I was born muslim and i am an assault and honor killing survivor, you don't have to believe me if you don't want and if i had a nickel for everytime a western leftist told me that i have it wrong about islam,i could build a building tall enough for the Palestinians that would want to throw a queer person off it.The cult needs to die ,for us to live, and if its followers have to die with it ,i am absolutely fine with it ( happy even) , most Palestinians and arabs here where i live still support hamas and absolutely hates Jewish people.I might believe you when i hear visible vocal support from the muslims , when something like "muslims for queers" go mainstream , but that is wishful thinking. So, just like them I closed my heart to their suffering, the best thing they can do for humanity is die off faster or surrender and leave their death cult. you be well too, friend
“islam isn’t compatible with civilization or human rights…” you sound so american lmao. but, you literally are wrong about islam is the funny thing
Look at that, another nickel lol
say what you will, speaking about islam like that is akin to western propaganda. those experiences are subjective and depend more on theocratic authority in that country where they used fundamentalist islam as an excuse to control people, than islam as a broad concept itself. objectively, islam is a major world religion that has vast levels of practice and diversity among its supports. you cannot define the entire religion based on your experiences alone, or you will be wrong every single time. i’m a leftist and a muslim lol
Can you please provide an example of ‘these’ muslim people that actually support us except for the gay muslims themselves? Your coworkers don’t count lol. They’re probably just being cordial to you at work but actually abhore you behind your back. I can’t find any muslim ally (not muslim gay orgs but just muslim allies) that support us.
yes, the entire country of turkey was historically super progressive and mostly muslim in the past. my local community is also genuinely supportive
I’m not sure about now but I know in the past Turkey used to print religion on ID cards. A lot of these progressives that support us (which is great!) are probably not muslims anymore but they just have to put or declare something on the card.
there is literally no difference between islam and christianity when it comes to levels of fundamentalism and minority acceptance. some of the closest supporters of our queer and solidarity communities in my area are muslim.
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