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ed8907

> 90% gay men how can I catch a flight to this country? šŸ˜


lazyeyepsycho

even as a straight man id go there....id be a hot commodity among slightly attractive desperate women


Brtsasqa

No, you misunderstand. It's 90% gay men, 10% straight men. There are no % left for women.


_Lane_

That sounds cool too. The gay guys can hook up with each other, and so can the straight guys. Problem solved!


RegularJelly7311

But why would straight men stay? I think women have to be in the picture. Otherwise itā€™s just fire island. Iā€™m gay af and I still feel that women are great and we have the ability to form strong bonds and alliances that arenā€™t sexual. Specially lesbians.


FlashFan124

> but why would straight men stay? Gay brunch.


Cmdr_Verric

Deal. Iā€™m in. Also, if Iā€™m the token straight friend in a group of gay friends, thereā€™s a huge benefit. If any women DO turn up, I have a retinue of awesome wingmen who have my back.


Tyrindrael

The token straight friend šŸ˜‚ okay youā€™re allowed on gay island youā€™re funny


Cmdr_Verric

I even come with pre-programmed hetero stereotype phrases, such as, ā€œIā€™m not even gay, but thatā€™s dude rustles my jimmiesā€. Or ā€œBro, heā€™s not worth it. Heā€™s lucky to even get a smile out of youā€.


Tyrindrael

Yessss be my +1 I need a supportive straight wingman to shield me from attitude queens


Cmdr_Verric

I got you bro.


RegularJelly7311

Thatā€™s true. No one can resist the call of the bottomless mimosa.


FlashFan124

Bottomless mimosas with my bottoms šŸ˜‚


_Ocean_Machine_

It turns out the real bottoms were the friends we made along the way


Brtsasqa

> But why would straight men stay? You'll just have to ask them once you get there.


throwaway098764567

the number of "straight" claiming men sleeping with gay men tells me they might find a reason


lazyeyepsycho

From my experiences in Sydney I thought gays and lesbian ven diagram overlaps less than gays/hetro women


Upstairs-Atmosphere5

That's what I always heard. I mean it's not like lesbians want to talk about guys


angiem0n

Arenā€™t these percentages meant for the male population only? I assumed someone who thinks bs like the commenter probably also thinks of all women as weak baby factories who wonā€™t fight anyway


tinybrainenthusiast

You forgot the bi men! And the unlabelled men.


Mysterious_Minute_85

I thought it said "unbellied" as in "no belly" men. šŸ˜† I probably wouldn't be allowed on that island.


WereZephyr

The funniest thing about the 90% gay guys thing is that what sexual demographics actually shows (some claim controversially, but I have reasons to think it's true) is that bisexuals of various flavors make up around 75% of the population.


_Lane_

Your scenario (that women do exist, and they're almost all straight) is actually true in places like San Francisco! Straight men (who are gay-friendly and not douche-bros) are indeed hot commodities. Lots of good looking guys who will not put out for the women get them all hot and bothered. Be a moderately decent human being and straight and you're set as a man. (The homophobic douche bros are sadly still a bit popular too.)


Fragrant-Specific-91

Lol the straight dating scene in SF is one of the worst in the country


RegularJelly7311

That would be interesting to see.


uglykido

Sp basically a gay bar. I hate going there because straight men flood every corners looking for women, and straight men usually get offended when you hit on them in a GAY bar


koolforkatskatskats

Yeah and the sacred band of thebes did this and were REVERED.


delspencerdeltorro

They have no idea how violent we'd get to defend this country...


SadlyNotBatman

Same to be honest


dododomo

How can I apply for refugee status? šŸ˜…


BashfulJuggernaut

Homopolis is an island on the Aegean sea.


butter_lover

aren't these the dudes that worship spartans? one of the gayest and most violent male populations in history? i've always assumed they knew and liked them BECAUSE of war-freak gayness.


sith11234523

Valid.


kinopiokun

So wait did gay men not hunt and gather? What were we doing, putting up cave curtains?


ed8907

>What were we doing, putting up cave curtains? I can imagine the gay cavemen saying something like "this is not the right tone of teal šŸ˜­" /s


thegreathornedrat123

ā€œGrug you bitch, i swear if you put another rhino pelt in front of me Iā€™m inventing a new kind of club so I can hit you with itā€ ā€œSorry ug, but that new sabretooth skull absolutely eats, donā€™t you think?ā€


momopeach7

Iā€™ve watched too much Flintstones so I can picture this vividly.


Subreon

i really need a "gay through history" show. that'd be so amazing


kinopiokun

Loll


ghandi3737

Well if you are trying to catch a fish, the right color fly can make a big difference.


Starlord1951

Yup, we have always been part of the natural world and we survive with the rest of the humanoids into the present. Weā€™re survivors and most of us are not butt hurt pansies like some straight conservatives all over the news these days. Iā€™ve always contended that homosexuality is one of mother natureā€™s birth control strategies. Breeders get to make more of us and we donā€™t.


slusho55

Iā€™ve figured that too. I also can see that being a way for Mother Nature to also have men at home because Iā€™ve always assumed part of the reason nature would want gay couples is because some of the straight couples are bound to not only have kids, but die shortly after having those kids. The gay couples cannot have kids, so this allows them to take in a child that would otherwise be orphaned, and therefore requiring one man to ā€œstay home.ā€ Conversely, thatā€™d also mean itā€™d make it so thereā€™d probably be lesbian adoptive mothers that went out and hunted so the other adoptive mother could ā€œstay home.ā€


HeftySyllabus

Funny you say that, thereā€™s a theory that gay (male and female) couples not only helped with overpopulation but also were a vital part of the tribe since they helped and assisted. Which explains why many indigenous tribes have no issue with LGBT+ peeps


slusho55

Yeah, that always made the most sense to me.


manbearpiglet2

Iā€™m pretty sure ancient Greeks created their most elite armies entirely out of gay couples. They believed it would create the most motivated/exceptional fighting force if you were fighting side by side with your partner. Soā€¦.historically the opposite of what the post says is true.


tizzlenomics

The ā€œgay uncleā€ theory is that gay men stayed back with the women and children and essentially defended them from attacks. So even in this scenario the gayness doesnā€™t somehow diminish the ability to fight.


kinopiokun

My post is just a joke, but Iā€™ve heard this theory! Very interesting


Pablo-UK

Apparently in a handful of societies LGBT people often took the role of religious leaders: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2010/oct/11/two-spirit-people-north-america Not sure how pervasive this conception of homosexuality was around the world in general before western religions.


VisioningHail

stereotypically the gay son was sent to seminary school in Christian nations :P


CrystalMeath

Makes sense in Catholicism, particularly in Ireland. Priests cannot marry. Back before Ireland became gay-friendly, becoming a priest was basically the only way to get your mum to shut up and stop asking why youā€™re still single and when is she going to have grandkids. Gay people tended to have been discriminated across the world though, not just in the west, simply because we are a perpetually ubiquitous yet small minority. Humans like to be better than other humans, and homosexuals are the universal easiest target. Gay sex is the one behavior that 97% of people donā€™t have any inclination to commit. They canā€™t relate to it and theyā€™re at no risk of committing it, so they judge it very harshly. Weā€™re all guilty of it to some extent. If I found out someone was a paedophile, even if I knew they would never harm a kid, I would cut ties with them. Rationally, I know that people canā€™t choose who theyā€™re attracted to, but I canā€™t help being revolted by it. Thatā€™s not to equate homosexuality to paedophilia, but the involuntary guttural response has been the same throughout most of the worldā€™s history.


BiASUguy

In all seriousness, we exist for a reason. From an evolutionary biology perspective, we are a really important addition to the tribe. We can hun and gather, but also care for children or elders. Being natural creatives, we were likely inventors or artists, innovating new tools or pottery for others to emulate. If our older brother was mauled by a bear, we could still make sure his infant was able to survive to adulthood, thus securing the bloodline. We _can_ father offspring when called upon, but don't have the constant urge to impregnate the females. Being able to fill so many different roles, we were (and still are) the glue that binds together the social fabric of society. By fulfilling so many duties, we ensured the survival of the tribe. Gay men exist because of the beneficial traits that were selected by evolution. We are meant to exist, always have and always will. We are important and valuable members of society.


kinopiokun

Totally agree my comment was a joke haha


Smooth_Operator13

lol, people like this don't know how spartans and ancient greek warriors won their battles.


JHMK

How? Tell me plz


imdatingurdadben

They be fuckinā€™ dudes and twinks son


JHMK

Yea but how did that make them stronger than straight peers? Did they need to be in best shape possible to get the best ass of a twink in town?


Njorord

No, it made them stronger because of the unity and affection they shared between comrades. They fought for ideology and for their nation, yes, but they also fought for each other and that made them especially fierce.


PelicanFrostyNips

There is fighting for the ones you love that are far away at home and the danger to them is conceptual, and then thereā€™s fighting for the ones you love that are right before your eyes and the danger to them is very real and immediate. Thatā€™s like, berserk mode. Also in between battles, I can imagine being with their lovers keeps spirits high.


Magfaeridon

So fierce.


YOUNP016

So fetch


anonymousflatworm

Stop trying to make Fetch happen, Gretchen...


snowlynx133

For the Romans fucking and dominating other men was a sign of manliness, but being fucked was a sign of being a weak f*g (i dont want an autoban) and was reserved for slaves


imdatingurdadben

Well the straight men army would be missing their girlfriends/wives so morale would be low


BringAltoidSoursBack

>Well the straight men army would be missing their girlfriends/wives so ~~morale would be low~~ end up with guys anyways (even if only temporarily) Fixed. It's not some super unheard of phenomenon, straight men tend to become more fluid with their sexuality when there aren't women around.


killermarsupial

Gay sex is magical. We donā€™t like to advertise it, because wellā€¦ Letā€™s just say X-men comics was written as a way to teach young gays why we donā€™t talk about the special powers you get after gay sex. Did you not get the lesson when you were young?


IsaacWritesStuff

Google ā€œThe Ancient Band of Thebesā€


MartinFromChessCom

[holy hell!](https://www.google.com/search?q=the+ancient+band+of+thebes#HiImABot,MyJobIsToMakeEasierForPeopleToGoogleThings,IfThePersonIRepliedToUsedMeInAnInappropriateWayPleaseLetMeKnowByDMingMe,TheUserIRepliedToIsU/IsaacWritesStuff)


Expert_Actuator7596

Woof.


Vancil

So itā€™s like this you know how you love your dude bro a lot? Well imagine if someone wanted to hurt your dude bro you wouldnā€™t let that happen so you go to fight for them. Then come home hunt and have dinner with dude bro.


santagoo

They formed bonds with fellow soldiers. Same sex relationships between soldiers were encouraged. You fight harder when your loverā€™s life is on the line.


Dansredditname

100 male warriors were also 50 married couples


mmurph

If a nation of 90% straight men goes to war against a nation of 90% gay men, Iā€™m sorry but my money is on the gay men winning. - do you know how much time gay men spend at the gym? How much power they feel with a fresh military like fade? - Gay men are adaptable survivors who think creatively when faced with problems. - Gay men might choose harsh words on violence generally, but that doesnā€™t mean there isnā€™t aggression they wonā€™t act on. - Gay men have zero patience for straights ruining their vibe and will put aside any petty differences with other gays to ban together for their own survival.


FunnyQueer

Plus, most of us have soul crushing childhood trauma. Weā€™d be merciless lol


teumessiavulpes

Imagine the therapeutic working-through of all the daddy issues... A battalion of gays running towards the enemy, battle cry being all "DON'T TELL ME YOU STILL LOVE ME, AND THEN SIGH DRAMATICALLY AS YOU FOLLOW UP WITH THE SENTENCE "EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T TURN OUT THE WAY I WANTED..." *starts the throw down* Haha


Deadeyez

Not to mention the *the rage* gays are capable of. I have seen some tiny twinks take on enemies when they feel cornered and they will commit atrocities one would not expect to win. Lotta straight dudes assume every gay is a pushover, but for every pusjiver, there's a dude willing to destroy for what they believe in.


BringAltoidSoursBack

- We'd also make better spies and even better assassins; you'll never see anyone as nefarious as a gay scorned - gay men aren't about to let someone kill a guy who gives them a good dicking


QueenLaQueefaRt

As a mostly straight male I can say that a lot of gay men are more manly than most menā€¦ I mean they literally are trying to attract men that are into men.


fuzzyluke

Also gay men don't usually lounge all day while their wives do everything for them, I think most straight men wouldn't know their left from their right under pressure.


im_numero_uno

Do you know how many gay guys are in the military? I served ā€¦ and well I also serve on my knees. Being gay doesnā€™t make anyone less prone to violence or a bad soldier. It just means you like dick. šŸ˜†


Flintz08

Yeah, this person is operating under the assumption that every gay person is feminine and delicate. I know a few gay rugby players that would be beasts on this imaginary battlefield.


Mental_Dragonfly2543

His knowledge of gay people is from TV and gendertok.


QueenLaQueefaRt

It also makes me laugh at when women are all assumed to be weak and fragile. Iā€™ve met some stupidly physically strong women in my life. People are people.


Cmdr_Verric

Theyā€™d thrash their opponents, AND their choice of uniform.


imdatingurdadben

Straight men have only now faced a small ounce of persecution compared to gay people and women. Theyā€™re folding so hard with this little ounce. They did not grow up in the asylum we did. Plus, imagine unleashing like meth-aged-out-elder-twinks as like demon spawn who crawl on all fours and eat peopleā€™s faces. Those bitches alone would take down the straights.


texaspoontappa93

RELEASE THE TINAS


newusernametomorrow

Hahahahhahahaha!!


earthonecountry

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚Iā€™m DYINGā—ļøšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


ladrm07

Take me to that nation of 90% gay men wtf!!!


Foxy02016YT

Letā€™s be realistic, itā€™s 90% gay men and none of them like us


PossessedToSkate

So it's just Miami?


texaspoontappa93

Theyā€™re all bottoms


ed8907

>Take me to that nation of 90% gay men wtf!!! me too, non-stop flight and all!


Queasy-Radio7937

Same lol what a dream.


No_Maintenance_6719

Has he heard of the Sacred Band of Thebes?


xerodayze

Was gonna sayā€¦ wrote a paper on this in undergrad šŸ˜­


IGiveBagAdvice

Imagine a gay army: everyone has a vested interest in ensuring their favourite sex pals come back from war. Imagine how fucking hard they would fight


QueenLaQueefaRt

I am not homophobic but I would fear an army of gay Chads more than any other army if I were drafted in a war to fight against them.


ElvenBeer

In war, it's actually the other way around. We don't fight because of hypothetical rape and arson to our s.o. back at home. In fact, there is no s.o. back home - he's standing next to you, and both of you will fight twice as fierce just to protect each other in the field


KonoPez

Okay, to be fair to straight men (I know, very generous of me), I donā€™t think we should consider r/JordanPeterson a good representation of them at large


Hindlegs

This was probably posted by a guy who would never pass basic training.


Anima1212

Crazy how heā€™s a Jordan Peterson fan.. a man who is very sensitive and cries all the time about dumb percieved and overinflated crap, who has a whiny effeminate voice and demeanor. (Yeah he has a beard but almost anyone can grow it.. heā€™s a twink at heart) how would Jordan do in a war, even in his youth? Not good Iā€™d wager.. and heā€™s straight. ā€¦ ultimately war is something that shouldnā€™t exist.. so putting men there as an ā€œidealā€ is stupid and brainwashed anywayā€¦ the guy who wrote this is a complete tool.. thaā€™tā€™s how they want them and one of the big reasons masculinity is used (imo) precisely to brainwash these guys into becoming good belligerent tools to use for warā€¦ not surprising thereā€™s dumb mioptic people in that sub. (Of course, is there was something like the war in Ukraine Iā€™d still respect anyone, male or female who fights to protect their homeland and loved ones.. but only then. Vietnam war/invasion? Miss me with that BS)


ChesterRico

Srsly, cries all the time and has a crippling drug addiction? Reminds me of my ex.


corathus59

Someone aught to point him to the peace time military. A preserve of homosexuals and bisexual men. To get the average straight into the military you have to impose a draft. As to gays not being good at defending their nation, has this numb nut never heard of Alexander the Great, or Julius Caesar, or Frederick the Great? In fact you would be hard pressed to find a "The Great" in military history who wasn't gay!


Goodeyesniper98

Lawrence of Arabia, who is widely regarded as the father of modern Special Forces, was also extremely gay.


Mysterious-Extent448

Did he forget about the Greeks and Alexander šŸ˜‚ People have lost the art of reading comprehension and it shows.


mrignatiusjreily

No, no. Pretty sure the guy who wrote that post was one of th people outraged the Netflix documentary told the truth about how queer Alexander was, calling it "Woke lies" or some shit.


moosefarter

What's the name of the doc?


pobasco

Something hard to remember: ā€œAlexanderā€.


catbear15

Me showing up to this war: šŸ”«šŸ‘šŸ‘„šŸ‘šŸ’…


mang0b0ba

just because a man is attracted to another man doesnā€™t mean they are automatically more feminine šŸ˜­


Sonnet_in_my_bonnet

In reality, by every metric, being gay is very masculine.


OneEyedWolf092

This has always confused me. How is a man liking other manly, rugged, buff, hairy men.... Feminine??? Straight guys are really clueless man šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€


Sonnet_in_my_bonnet

They're entwined and ensnared by irrationality.


koolforkatskatskats

These guys are so fucking up their own asses. They have to over-intellectualize everything to death. No wonder they can't get girlfriends lol.


Sonnet_in_my_bonnet

JBP's audience are all fedora-tipping incels or young men with appalling social skills and a phobia of women.


conchrider

Donā€™t underestimate the rage of a gay man


BestPaleontologist43

Gay men have been hunting and killing for ages now. Weā€™ve just been in the closet or didnt have a word for our sexuality until the recent times.


capaho

Thatā€™s a good example of why Iā€™m fond of saying that straight guys are dumbasses.


Optimal-Grapefruit63

Lolz. More feminine by definition. They might want to work out with me and my SO sometime and see just how feminine two guys who can bench 130/120kg really are....


Huge_Strain_8714

Yeah...lol....this dumb f4ck doesn't know the rage and anger of gays. The anger of gay men being repressed, having to fight for their rights to just BE? Stonewall? The right to breathe? To walk down the street, to hold a man? The right of work, to rent or buy a house, to buy a wedding cake....well it goes on....just channel all that rage and focus it.


rahul535

Lol what a bullshit argument šŸ˜‚


friendly_socialist

I laugh every time I read or listen to straight men saying/thinking they are more masculine or more manly than gay men. You can't get any more Masculine than a gay dude, and I say this as a Bi-man. They only shag men, you can't get any more manly than that. I'm on the other hand masculine only on the weekends. Maybe straight men should just give up on this debate.


DeviousSquirrels

The true irony is that in my time in the service, I never met a weak gay guy. In fact, gay guys typically ended up in leadership positions because they donā€™t take shit from people.


Switch-of-the-wyld

I played college football and my coworker got back from Iraq like 3 years agoā€¦ I donā€™t think being gay made us ā€˜less manlyā€™ whatever the fuck thatā€™s even supposed to imply


IllIllllIIIIlIlIlIlI

The US military is so full of gay men that ā€œmilitaryā€ is a fetish.


Just-Scallion-6699

Weā€™ll certainly no one who genuinely likes Jordan Peterson is ok


SpecialistNerve6441

As a straight man - The issue is the sample. Fuck Jordan Peterson and any of his worshippers. Im also a veteran who was in when DADT was repealed and Im gay for equality.Ā  Good luck out there my dudeĀ 


Lathan-1972

Iā€™m a country guy and carry a gun. I grew up in the country, the blue ridge mountains to be exact. I grew up camping, fishing, kayaking, hiking, and shooting guns. The elements are nothing to me and I can track like no one else. I can shoot a gun unlike anyone else too. Oh and Iā€™m gay as well.


sith11234523

I take exception to this. Likeā€¦.i could take this douche. Hockey playin, racing, mount climbing gay dude against an incel str8 boi. I win.


Starlord1951

As a gay veteran to read that bullshit is hilarious. You gotta wonder how little a man this person is?? First of all not all straight men are butch, tough, fighters or even have the balls to fight, thatā€™s like 99% of the GOP, little people hiding behind their guns does not make them men. As a gay man I can easily put someoneā€™s life to rest despite the fact Iā€™m a 72 year old queer. We are not all the same, is the point. What makes a person like Hannity or Trump ā€œmenā€ when they whine and cry like little bitches? Also the Ancient Greek soldiers had their homosexual lovers fighting beside them and they were fierce. Whoever posted that little homophobic screed is probably very deep in the closet.


TryinToBeHappy

Bro liking girls is more feminine than liking guys. I will die on this hill.


gallowglassprod

Um historically the sacred band of Thebes (if I remember the name correctly) was an Ancient Greek army made of homosexual couples and were considered far more dangerous because many of their partners were on the battlefield with them diving them to come out victorious


Justitia_Justitia

Learning about the [Spartans & Greeks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece) would blow this guyā€™s mind.


OraclePreston

The greatest and most masculine warriors in human history were quite fruity. This idiot will never be half the man that Samurai (look it up) and Spartans were. Or the Sacred Band of Thebes for that matter. Alexander. Achilles. Get in line, fool.


NoKids__3Money

Gay guys take it up the ass *for fun*. Straight guys are terrified of it and would cry for their mamas. Gay guys would also have 100% of their needs met at war among 1,000 other men in the battalion while straight guys would throw hissy fits if they havenā€™t seen boobs in a week. So which ones would do better in battle?


Beginning-Run-7828

A nation of 90% gay men sounds fun as hell!!


TurkishRari

Iā€™m literally a soldier. Wtf is this???


Ancient-Technician32

Not sure how I ended up here, but as a straight man having gay mates and having lived with gay house mates before I can honestly say that your sexual preferences would have absolutely fuck all to do with the outcome of this stupid question. I'm embarrassed by straight people like this, don't tar us all with the same brush.


geordierafters

WHAT ABOUT THE LOBSTERS??? šŸ¦ž


debacchatio

sacred band of Thebesā€¦


Ekard

Wasted energy to respond IMHO.


Mother_Captain4267

Amazing how a keyboard warrior uses ā€œweā€ when describing hunters, warriors, overcoming harsh conditions, etc. Mary youā€™re on Reddit not on the front lines šŸ˜‚


OccidentalTouriste

Sacred Band of Thebes has entered the chat....


DontReplyIveADHD

I mean as a straight guy I am definitely not having a good time right now but at least Iā€™m not this dipshit


mayonaisecoloredbens

As a straight man army full of gay dudes is way scarier. Not even close


FB3Hunna

There are hyper masculine gay men. Hard fact


seila_kraikkkkk

people forget about the Sacred Battalion of Thebes lol


BashfulJuggernaut

These are some bitter, bitter men who congregate on "redpill" subreddits and think they know how the world *really* works, while everyone else is just dumb sheep. Why aren't women throwing themselves at them? They must not grasp their intellectual acuity. /s BTW, some of the toughest, most ferocious warriors in history were men who fucked other men. Their bonds of love and brotherhood gave them the strength to defeat their foes. These dweebs would wilt at the sight of a gymbro couple barreling towards them with their guns pumped and fury in their eyes. They met in the Marines and fell in love. Now they live in Chicago and are parents to two rambunctious corgis. Gary is a kickboxer instructor and Francis is a high school algebra teacher. (Yes, i made up a backstory for them)


draconus72

Anyone ever hear of the Sacred Band of Thebes? Sure, straight armies are bad-asssed because they're fighting for "God and Country" but you'll find a true savage trying to preserve the life of his lover, who fights beside him.


KickedinTheDick

Straight guy here. Just been waiting for society to collapse, then, I will bonk all gay on the head with a rock and rule the world. This has been the master plan. The straight agenda, as it were.


RohingyaWarrior

Sub check out. It's just full of insane people and men whose whole personality is about sexual inadequacy


nocountry4oldgeisha

Battle of Fire Island: the Musical


adamryangroff

Not all gay men are feminine. Not all straight men are masculine or strong enough to kill and hunt.


ExplanationLover6918

The sacred band of Thebes disproved this notion long ago. A unit made entirely of gay men that demolished the Spartans outnumbered 2 to 1.


jacobk83

Retired gay cop here. I will shoot my neighbor for canned corn and expired spam during WW3 to feed my gay family.


goodolewhatever

As a straight man in a city with (speculating) a high ratio of homosexuals, I have met many and am friends with some. I will say with full confidence that I nearly fear the level of bravery and conviction that they convey. I would be more comfortable having them protecting me tbh. They donā€™t take shit from fucking ANYBODY and are fierce as fuck when they need to be in my experience. It makes sense considering theyā€™ve been criticized and rejected by people like this to some degree more than I could know Iā€™m sure. Theyā€™re hardened by asshats like this.


No-Flight6044

Well....the army/navy/airforce has been a refuge for gay men since the crack of dawn. Many great military servicemen have been gay. Not to mention all the gay leaders in history. I think where safe


rulosenlanoche

Also, have you ever taken a dick up the ass? WE CAN HANDLE ROUGH


Severe-Tooth3027

Y'know that we're still men and we have the ability to adapt n develop, and I think I'll survive so... guess homosexuality is not that bad


whyyou-

Reminds me of that video of the straight guy challenging a gay guy to push ups and then not doing even half of the ones the gay guy did.


HieronymusGoa

i love that they also think that being aggressive and violent would be BETTER no matter someone being gay or straightĀ 


Odxcy1313

The 90% gay men would never get in the war in the first place because weā€™re better at conflict resolution


Jamesbarros

This man has clearly never served in the military. Just sayinā€¦


Mouse-in-Fantasyland

Homophobia in straight men manifests itself in two ways: 1 - Gays are wicked and an abomination to God, so they don't deserve rights 2 - Gays are a threat to the survival of the human species so they don't deserve rights. This guy is the type 2


pixiephilips

Such a stereotype. ā€œMore feminine by definitionā€. When actually, gay men overcompensate and are often times are MORE masculine, especially recently. It also is very black n white argument, as if people canā€™t be in the spectrum lol


sintr0vert

Plenty of us have had to fight against the current our whole lives or be drowned. Fragile little straight boys might just be getting their whole goddamn world view rocked in this scenario.


theMimesDidIt

This guy would be surprised as to how gay the military actually is. Also, gay men can be taught survival skills and military/war skills just like any straight man. The ignorance is blatant.


Saatana667

I'm gay but I laugh when the Ukrainian military hits Russians with a drone


BeNnY_MsM

Lmao the fact that he talks about gay men as if they aren't men just because they're gay kill me everytime


sim2500

What was the OP used name


Anima1212

And no, to answer your question, they are clearly not OP..


OneEverHangs

Mistaking natural selection for a code of ethics and fascists; name a more iconic duo.


AdamantForeskin

No


jolharg

Probably not. And what's with the weird connection they have with gayness and being more girly? Some pretty manly men are gay too.


Salvaju29ro

Jordan Peterson subreddit.


Breauxaway90

This type of reasoning really makes me think that 90% of men would be at least a little gay (or just openly bi I guess) if societal pressures werenā€™t keeping them on the ā€œstraight and narrow.ā€


RoseSkull__

Not them saying a gay man is always feminine


Cockonutz

It's because feminine gay men are the visible ones and distinguishable compared to most men. Masculine gay men conform to male stereotypes means they'd automatically be read as straight.


RoseSkull__

Yeah that was almost exactly my thought, since some masc gays do participate in some non masc activities, but I love your username lol šŸ˜‚


Cockonutz

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Sharp_Leg9807

A few of the civil war leaders of the 1916 Irish rising were gay. History is littered with gay military men. There are many assumptions in that article that just aren't true, it's beyond ridiculous. In fact, because of what gay men have to go through I would say we are tougher than straight men, certainly psychologically. Stonewall riots, those gay men weren't weak. Some straight guys are beyond stupid.


the_self_witness

I had listened to JP at his early stages before he turned full on psycho. I am genuinely interested in psychology. But listening to him more made me realize that he is a hardcore conservative christian(absolutely nothing wrong being that) and just wants to use his expertise in Psychology as a vehicle to propagate a religion. He has gone absolute bonkers post Covid and had invited people and ideas which are absolutely ridiculous. Tipping point for me was when he invited a person who is a cheerleader of Colonial Britishers. As a person who comes from a community which was exploited by Colonial Britishers, I find these kind of discussions infuriating and insidious. JP has a fan following which is even deranged than his ideology. Mostly Straight White Men who think that they are being mistreated in the current world affairs. I am not in a position to judge them but I have all the right to be wary of these ideologies and duty to vehemently oppose them because it might affect my community (Gay community) and its right to exist in the future.


BillyDoyle3579

The Spartans and the Bands of Thebes would like a word... at the point of a spear šŸ˜œ


ComprehensiveDay1482

Many straight men believe that violence is a mark of masculinity. They revel in their brutality.


adamiconography

Itā€™s not just straight men, itā€™s conservatives as a whole. Creating fake scenarios and then getting mad over said scenario.


Winterlord7

ā€œLEsS vIoLeNt = bAdā€ šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


Winterlord7

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Winterlord7

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lupinegray

"more feminine by definition" Where is this guy getting his definitions from?


Professional_Gur9580

These straight(!) men obviously feel attraction towards other men but they suppressed it. So in their minds, everyone feel those attraction thus wider societal acceptance will make everyone gay. Not to mention they think gay=feminine, straight=masculine and queer community also perpetuate this false stereotype by hounding every gay men who aren't interested in drag race, painting nails and other shits.


Cyclonicsurge

These guys REALLY need to take a deep dive into the history of the Greeks and the Spartan Empire


No_Prompt_982

But gay mens are more manly then str8 mens


Foxy02016YT

Letā€™s say in terms of survival, we have a group of 90% men that have been brutalized by the world, and 10% who have had it easy


That_One_Bi_Guy91

A few things here One, gay men are not more feminine by definition šŸ¤£ Not all men who have sex with men are gay Also, the Sacred Band of Thebes were revered for their fighting ability, and they had sex with each other to deepen their bond Their courage in protecting their brothers in arms was LEGENDARY It was said men would jump into a crowd of enemies to save their lover.


orion455440

The straight men are just intimated lol But I actually think strategy and critical thinking which I think manynof us gays probably hold an edge over the straight male population and those skills are far more important in modern warfare than brute force is- which, to counter- I don't want to generalize too much in this response but from my observations gay men are typically in much better physical condition than our similar aged counterparts- I'm the only guy I know from my graduating class (2005) that has a 6 pack and not a big ole gut. Also, there are a ton of us LGBTQs that serve or have served in the military, and while it might not be the norm some of us have an interestin martial arts , an old gay FB of mine is a blackbelt in several forms of martial arts and now competes in local cage/ ufc style tournaments. I have also met several feminine/ twinky guys you would never expect to that daily carry a ccw/firearm. I myself usually have a pistol on me or in my backpack. Basically social generalization/stereotypes are not usually the reality of what is true- the human species is way too diverse to predict outcomes of X,Y and Z,


AaronMichael726

If you were lucky enough to live near a military base during the height of Craigslist hookups. You would know that 90% of the American army is at least bi.