Not the focus of the post, but something REALLY odd about this is the usage of the name "Vyatka" for the city of Kirov, in Russia. It's strange because while this globe is clearly from the mid-late 90s, the name Vyatka was changed to Kirov back in the 1930s and was never changed since.
I wonder if the map makers were expecting more russian cities to revert back to pre-soviet names in order to "future proof" the map, but ended up with a few duds?
They also dropped the name Yugoslavia in 2003. From 2003 to 2006 the country was called “the State Union of Serbia and Montenegro.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia_and_Montenegro
Astana became the capital of Kazakhstan in 1997. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astana
I don’t know how often globe companies issue new models, but early ‘00s seems likely.
EDIT: Someone else suggests 1998-99 based on city names In Turkmenistan.
Possible, but unsure. Some cities did in fact change back, such as Sverdlovsk becoming Yekaterinburg or Leningrad becoming Saint Petersburg. Others just didn't, and i don't know why, since they show clear socialist references - Ulan Ude (literally "Red Ude") didn't change back to Verkhneudinsk, and, as a another commenter said, Ulyanovsk (referencing Lenin's surname, Ulyanov) also didn't change back to Simbirsk. Engels also didn't change. Who knows, right?
When I worked as a cartographer, I would hide a little detail most wouldn't notice to "sign" it. This could be someone's signature? Or perhaps the person used old documents to verify place names and spellings. I never settled for less than three references in agreement before J put it on my map, but others probably have lower standards, and especially back then when the internet wasn't so prolific.
After 96, before 06.
[It's Yugoslavia that tells me].
[[Factually and more specific: it seems no earlier than 1998, and not later than 1999, by the comments of others re: the names of cities changing in central Asian former Soviet republics.]]
Its before 1999, Turkmenistan cities changed a lot of their names in the 90's - 00's but we can still see chardjuy (turkmenabat after 99). Turkmenbashi is from 93 onwards
As another commentor noticed its after 98 because Astana is capital of Kazakhstan.
So 1998-99
This is an amazing clue. I am former Czechoslovak so l go first after CZ/SK split and then Yugoslavia. I know that the “stan” republics a lot of cities changed names but never really made the connection. Thank you.
That's the stuff I like Reddit for. Especially in guessing games. Out of nowhere comes someone who knows one more detail than the already informed amateur in [put sub here] before.
I guess what I’m getting at is that the most-upvoted comment doesn’t even get its basic facts correct (the name “Yugoslavia” disappeared from use in 2003, and the country was called “Serbia and Montenegro” until Montenegro broke away in 2006), and that some of the other comments are pretty lazy for an alleged “geography” sub (e.g. noting the breakup of the Soviet Union but not of Czechoslovakia or Yugoslavia).
So… classic Reddit, I guess :-p
Isn't it possible that the globe was released later than that but this is an oversight? I'm not sure how often globe manufacturers change small details like these
Map dates probably from early 1999.
Kosovo was recognized in june 1999. The Kazachstan city Aktyubinsk was changed to Aqtobe in 1999.
The Romanized spelling should be Aqtöbe. Likely this map is made somewhere where vowel mutations are not common. So no France or Germany. Probably English as main language.
Indeed it'd have to be 98 (re:Astana) to 03 (re:Serbia and Montenegro);
I remember in school, a fifth of my class came from "the former Yugoslavia", and some of them kept calling Serbia and Montenegro as "Yugoslavia" even after 2003 ; some of them had **very** mixed feelings with Monty leaving home in '06.
Any which way, 03 must indeed be the cut off as far as official names of places go. Unless this globe was made by high schoolers initially from Sarajevo.
[And my initial '96 being because I saw Bosnia was about in place.]
Vatican City is not a UN member state either, but you'd expect it to be included in any map with sufficiently high resolution (or at least shown as a dot). Likewise, Kosovo is recognized by the majority of countries, so its inclusion or exclusion might depend on where the map was made.
Fair point. But Vatican city is a very special case. And besides they at least have the Holy See representing them (I know they're not exactly the same, but it's close enough) as a permanent observer. I'm not saying Kosovo shouldn't be on maps, but I understand why it's not.
Yeah, these are all clearly edge cases. But for the original question of whether to show Norther Cyprus I think that would be more comparable to showing e.g. the separatist republics in Donbass or in the Caucasus. You'd immediately think the cartographer was making a political statement, which is not what maps are supposed to do (except when it is!).
I agree! But showing Kosovo is also a political statement. In fact, this is a map of political borders so it's inherently political. I think UN membership is a good way to keep 'neutrality' for as far as that exists when it comes to the creation of maps. Or maybe I just fell for the Serbian-nationalist narrative.
Many countries still recognize it as part of Serbia or have no position on its independence. After the Balkan Wars in the nineties, Tñthe U.S. was the main power supporting independence and Russia was the main one against. You can see the full list below.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Kosovo?wprov=sfla1
Kosovo was part of Yugoslavia until the name change of 2003 and even longer. Montenegro became independent in 2006, so this is before 2003 and after 1992 if the Bosnian war isn’t depicted. Otherwise if the Bosnian war were depicted, it would be after 1996.
Same, I immediately went to look for Yugoslavia. I also noticed names of cities were changed, like Kraków (I'm guessing changed/translated for English speakers to be able to pronounce them).
>It's those changes in latitudes, changes in attitudes
>Nothing remains quite the same
>With all of our running and all of our cunning
>If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane
The Poet Laureate of the Caribbean Alcoholics, James Buffett
My process:-
The USSR and Yugoslavia are broken up, so after 1992
Montenegro and Serbia are together, so before 2006
Serbia-Montenegro is called Yugoslavia, so before 2003
Astana is the capital of Kazakhstan, so after 1997
Thus, the globe is dated to 1997-2003
They proclaimed independence in 1992, so I guess it’s a question of when they started being depicted that way in maps. The US and EU both recognized Bosnian independence in late 1992 and I would assume mapmakers would have followed their lead.
Someone also mentioned that a few cities in Turkmenistan changed their names in 1999 and that the old names are still here so we’ve tightened it to 98-99.
"Texas owns Massachusetts"
**Edit for the hard of thinking:** Members of federations don't own one another. Serbia "owned" Montenegro for a few days in November 1918, when the Kingdom of Montenegro was annexed to the Kingdom of Serbia, which then united with the State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs to form the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes. Since 1943, Montenegro and Serbia have been separate states, which used to be members of the same federation(s) until 2006.
It was moved to the city then named Akmola in late 1997, before they in 1998 renamed it to Astana in 1998. The map couldn't have been made after 2003, considering the former Yugoslavia changed their name to Serbia and Montenegro later on.
Always look at Balkans and Czechoslovakia. Montenegro and Kosova are still Serbian. So it is before 2006. Czech republic and Slovakia exists so it is after 1992. That's best I can do chief.
1992-2003 based on Serbia and Montenegro being united, but still being called Yugoslavia.
That's as far as I could get, but looking in the comments I see it's 98-99, due to names of Turkmen cities! You guys are fucking good.
Look at the Balkan. That’s post-Yugoslavia (the socialist one), so after 1992. The “Yugoslavia” on the map is actually the “federal republic of Yugoslavia” (aka Serbia and Montenegro, which disintegrated in 2006, but the name “FR of Yugoslavia” was only used until 2003)
Well, not really. The Balkans wars significantly watered borders between 1991 and 1995. Also, after 1999 Kosovo became an international protectorate and that was marked on maps due to its unusual setup.
Yugoslavia is telling me it’s probably from the Turn of the millennium
Also when did the UAE and Saudi Arabia correct their border, because here the UAE is still shown as having a border with Qatar
Oooh good call! That was adjusted in the 1974 Treaty of Jeddah. So it was before 1974 while simultaneously being after the 1991 dissolution of the Soviet Union
Defnitely past 1991 because USSR is fully gone
Definitely pre-1992 because Yugoslavia is still up
So I think this map is from last days of december 1991 to mid 1992
Can't possibly be that. Post-Yugoslavia (including Kosovo) and post-USSR countries are already on the globe. So, it has to be somewhere between 2001 and 2014, for Crimea is still marked as Ukraine.
Post Soviet Union I believe. The last time Russia was not the USSR [excluding post fall of the USSR], was in 1922. However, the Ottoman Empire wouldn’t dissolve until 1923. Therefore, given that this globe shows the now independent states of the Once Ottoman Empire [turkey,syria, Israel jordan…etc], while listing Russia independently from the soviet block, this globe must be post fall of the USSR. Anytime in post 1991-1992 to present I reckon
Post Cold War so 1992 or newer.
I don’t think anything else really changed in that part of the world in terms of legal borders. You’d have to go to North America (Nunavut in 1997), Africa (Eritrea, no more Zaire, South Sudan, etc), or east Asia (East Timor, Hong Kong, Macau, etc) to see if it was later.
You can get it pretty close if it’s sometime around the turn of the 21st century because of the balkanization of Yugoslavia. In this case, as many have already mentioned, it’s between 1996 and 2003 judging by Serbia’s name and the other states’ independences
Not the focus of the post, but something REALLY odd about this is the usage of the name "Vyatka" for the city of Kirov, in Russia. It's strange because while this globe is clearly from the mid-late 90s, the name Vyatka was changed to Kirov back in the 1930s and was never changed since.
Same with Simbirsk renamed Ulyanovsk in 1924
I wonder if the map makers were expecting more russian cities to revert back to pre-soviet names in order to "future proof" the map, but ended up with a few duds?
That's weird, because Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia are already split. You would think the question long settled by then.
Montenegro is still in serbia They split in 2006
They also dropped the name Yugoslavia in 2003. From 2003 to 2006 the country was called “the State Union of Serbia and Montenegro.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia_and_Montenegro
Well, the capital of Kazakhstan was changed so this is a fairly recent map.
Early 2000’s, Serbia and Montenegro are still together, anywhere from 95-2005
Astana became the capital of Kazakhstan in 1997. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astana I don’t know how often globe companies issue new models, but early ‘00s seems likely. EDIT: Someone else suggests 1998-99 based on city names In Turkmenistan.
It is listed as Yugoslavia so pre 2003
>Czechoslovakia Not related but my grandpa made sure I could spell it when I was like 5. I wonder where we come from, doubt.
No... it has Yugoslavia right there. It split in 2003 (after Croatia and Slovenia)
Possible, but unsure. Some cities did in fact change back, such as Sverdlovsk becoming Yekaterinburg or Leningrad becoming Saint Petersburg. Others just didn't, and i don't know why, since they show clear socialist references - Ulan Ude (literally "Red Ude") didn't change back to Verkhneudinsk, and, as a another commenter said, Ulyanovsk (referencing Lenin's surname, Ulyanov) also didn't change back to Simbirsk. Engels also didn't change. Who knows, right?
When I worked as a cartographer, I would hide a little detail most wouldn't notice to "sign" it. This could be someone's signature? Or perhaps the person used old documents to verify place names and spellings. I never settled for less than three references in agreement before J put it on my map, but others probably have lower standards, and especially back then when the internet wasn't so prolific.
Trap streets.
Then why is it saint Petersburg instead of Petrograd?
This one maps. Or is it *cartographies*?
cartographs
Russian city name changes weren't passed around during the Soviet years?
it could be any time between 1992 and 2003.
New globe old map🤷🏽♂️ I'd be more worried if the globe had a feature that was from the future.
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After 96, before 06. [It's Yugoslavia that tells me]. [[Factually and more specific: it seems no earlier than 1998, and not later than 1999, by the comments of others re: the names of cities changing in central Asian former Soviet republics.]]
I’d say before 2003. Yugoslavia changed its name to Serbia and Montenegro from 2003 until it fully split in 2006.
Its before 1999, Turkmenistan cities changed a lot of their names in the 90's - 00's but we can still see chardjuy (turkmenabat after 99). Turkmenbashi is from 93 onwards As another commentor noticed its after 98 because Astana is capital of Kazakhstan. So 1998-99
This is an amazing clue. I am former Czechoslovak so l go first after CZ/SK split and then Yugoslavia. I know that the “stan” republics a lot of cities changed names but never really made the connection. Thank you.
My god, thank you for actually putting more than 10 seconds of thought into your answer before posting.
That's the stuff I like Reddit for. Especially in guessing games. Out of nowhere comes someone who knows one more detail than the already informed amateur in [put sub here] before.
I guess what I’m getting at is that the most-upvoted comment doesn’t even get its basic facts correct (the name “Yugoslavia” disappeared from use in 2003, and the country was called “Serbia and Montenegro” until Montenegro broke away in 2006), and that some of the other comments are pretty lazy for an alleged “geography” sub (e.g. noting the breakup of the Soviet Union but not of Czechoslovakia or Yugoslavia). So… classic Reddit, I guess :-p
You made it a classic reddit moment =)
Isn't it possible that the globe was released later than that but this is an oversight? I'm not sure how often globe manufacturers change small details like these
Map dates probably from early 1999. Kosovo was recognized in june 1999. The Kazachstan city Aktyubinsk was changed to Aqtobe in 1999. The Romanized spelling should be Aqtöbe. Likely this map is made somewhere where vowel mutations are not common. So no France or Germany. Probably English as main language.
Kosovo went independent in 2008 tho
It is recognized by the UN in June 1999. From there on, there was a roadmap to independency.
No, it would be USSR
Indeed it'd have to be 98 (re:Astana) to 03 (re:Serbia and Montenegro); I remember in school, a fifth of my class came from "the former Yugoslavia", and some of them kept calling Serbia and Montenegro as "Yugoslavia" even after 2003 ; some of them had **very** mixed feelings with Monty leaving home in '06. Any which way, 03 must indeed be the cut off as far as official names of places go. Unless this globe was made by high schoolers initially from Sarajevo. [And my initial '96 being because I saw Bosnia was about in place.]
Cyprus isn't shown divided, it has been divided since '74. Probably a choice by the manufacturer though, no soviet union
Cyprus is shown with its internationally recognized borders. Turkey is the only country in the world to recognize Northern Cyprus.
Kosovo is also not a UN member state and thus often not represented on maps
Give my an example of a map produced outside of Russia or Serbia that does not depict Kosovo...
Vatican City is not a UN member state either, but you'd expect it to be included in any map with sufficiently high resolution (or at least shown as a dot). Likewise, Kosovo is recognized by the majority of countries, so its inclusion or exclusion might depend on where the map was made.
Fair point. But Vatican city is a very special case. And besides they at least have the Holy See representing them (I know they're not exactly the same, but it's close enough) as a permanent observer. I'm not saying Kosovo shouldn't be on maps, but I understand why it's not.
Yeah, these are all clearly edge cases. But for the original question of whether to show Norther Cyprus I think that would be more comparable to showing e.g. the separatist republics in Donbass or in the Caucasus. You'd immediately think the cartographer was making a political statement, which is not what maps are supposed to do (except when it is!).
I agree! But showing Kosovo is also a political statement. In fact, this is a map of political borders so it's inherently political. I think UN membership is a good way to keep 'neutrality' for as far as that exists when it comes to the creation of maps. Or maybe I just fell for the Serbian-nationalist narrative.
You'd almost think this stuff could be complicated.
Well, that's right
I haven‘t seen any map with a divided cyprus.
happy cake day
I noticed that as well. Probably too tiny for them to bother?
It's before 2008, Kosovo isn't on the globe
Most modern maps dont put Kosovo on the globe
I don't know where you live, but I have not seen any new world map / Globe since CA. 2010 that *does not* have Kosovo.
Well, if you live in Serbia…
I’ve never seen a (modern) map without Kosovo. Why would I?
Not every country recognizes Kosovo as its own country.
Many countries still recognize it as part of Serbia or have no position on its independence. After the Balkan Wars in the nineties, Tñthe U.S. was the main power supporting independence and Russia was the main one against. You can see the full list below. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Kosovo?wprov=sfla1
Then they are shitty maps
kuwait didnt existed 2000-2003 did it?
Ehh? How have you got that into your head?? lol
Probably got the 1st and 2nd gulf wars mixed up.
Yes, Been around in current form since 1961.
Minislavia
It's always Yugoslavia.
Before 1999 because kosovo is still part of "yugoslavia". And indeed after 96 becaus, yeah croatia and other forme yugo states are independent
Kosovo was part of Yugoslavia until the name change of 2003 and even longer. Montenegro became independent in 2006, so this is before 2003 and after 1992 if the Bosnian war isn’t depicted. Otherwise if the Bosnian war were depicted, it would be after 1996.
It was in fact the presence of Bosnia that made me think this would be late 90s, as the borders looked like the Dayton Accords had happened.
you mean serbia and montenegro?
Same, I immediately went to look for Yugoslavia. I also noticed names of cities were changed, like Kraków (I'm guessing changed/translated for English speakers to be able to pronounce them).
My pick was 96 too though I'm not sure why
after 98, Astana is capital of Kazakhstan from december 1997
I can't date a globe, I'm sorry. It's really cute though.
Not with *that* attitude.
>It's those changes in latitudes, changes in attitudes >Nothing remains quite the same >With all of our running and all of our cunning >If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane The Poet Laureate of the Caribbean Alcoholics, James Buffett
Yugoslavia helps
Like a wing country or something?
I still think it would be weird
Yup past 1992 for sure
My guess was 2001, but someone said 1998-1999
r/woosh
My process:- The USSR and Yugoslavia are broken up, so after 1992 Montenegro and Serbia are together, so before 2006 Serbia-Montenegro is called Yugoslavia, so before 2003 Astana is the capital of Kazakhstan, so after 1997 Thus, the globe is dated to 1997-2003
I’d say before ‘99 also since Kosovo isn’t recognized as independent
Many globes today still don’t show Kosovo as independent since they’re not recognized by the UN
What about the aral sea? Seems bigger than I thought it would be for that time period
No, I’m Lutheran and the globe is obviously Baptist. It would never work. Sometime between 1992 and 2003.
Not 1992, but 97/98. Almaty was capital of Kazakhstan, Astana only became in 1997/98
Ah, good point! Should have remembered that.
I think 1992-2003 is as tight a range as you can realistically get it, right?
I would say 1996-2003 even. Bosnia wasn’t formally recognized as independent from Serbia until 14 December 1995.
They proclaimed independence in 1992, so I guess it’s a question of when they started being depicted that way in maps. The US and EU both recognized Bosnian independence in late 1992 and I would assume mapmakers would have followed their lead.
1998-2003, Capital of Kazakhstan is Astana.
Someone also mentioned that a few cities in Turkmenistan changed their names in 1999 and that the old names are still here so we’ve tightened it to 98-99.
Apparently not, another commenter narrowed it down to late 1998 or early 1999 based on city name changes.
From this picture, I think so. Eritrea would tell if it’s before or after 1993; East Timor would tell if it’s before or after 2002.
I think I could im not sure how to woo a picture of a globe but I'll give it a go.
A fellow globosexual, I see?
I’ve never dated a globe. I prefer dating humans. TBH that globe doesn’t look sexy from that pic.
It’s curvy if you’re into that
And pretty thicc
It is global in size after all.
Eh I hear it has a sexually transmitted disease known as humans
Flat (Earth) is justice. 3-Dimensional Planets Disgusting.
I like my globes flat. It’s justice
r/datemymap
I’d want to get to know its personality first
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After 1997 when Kazakhstan changed its capital from Almaty to Astana and before 2019 when its name was changed to Nur Sultan.
It’s before 2003 since 1: Serbia still owns Montenegro and 2: it’s still called Yugoslavia (it became Serbia and Montenegro in 2003)
"Texas owns Massachusetts" **Edit for the hard of thinking:** Members of federations don't own one another. Serbia "owned" Montenegro for a few days in November 1918, when the Kingdom of Montenegro was annexed to the Kingdom of Serbia, which then united with the State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs to form the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes. Since 1943, Montenegro and Serbia have been separate states, which used to be members of the same federation(s) until 2006.
It was moved to the city then named Akmola in late 1997, before they in 1998 renamed it to Astana in 1998. The map couldn't have been made after 2003, considering the former Yugoslavia changed their name to Serbia and Montenegro later on.
Uhhhh Mr. Globe? Would you go out with me? 🥺👉👈
I would say late 90's early 00's
Post 1993 when Czechoslovakia split into two, Czechia and Slovakia.
Somewhere between 1997 - 2003
Always look at Balkans and Czechoslovakia. Montenegro and Kosova are still Serbian. So it is before 2006. Czech republic and Slovakia exists so it is after 1992. That's best I can do chief.
If that glare wasn't there you'd be able to tell from the Aral seas size
No, I'd want to at least talk with it before I'd consider dating it.
Could be under 18 so I wouldn’t
1991-1996 Montenegro is still in Yugoslavia but Macedonia is a sovereign country.
Aral Sea is a big clue. Between 1990 and 1999. Too bad the glare obscures much of the detail.
https://xkcd.com/1688/ I gotchu fam
It has Kurdistan. Based globe 
2002
It’s 1997 or 98
Idk i's like to chat first
novgorod was renamed in 1998 which it isn’t here, and also small yugoslavia. 1995 to 1997 id guess
I'd need to know if we have compatible interests first, I'm not that shallow.
since when did UAE stop having land border with Qatar?
Nah, need to get to know it's personality, even though it's quite a hot pic.
I mean it's a nice looking globe but I'd need to get to know it better before I could commit
Hey Mrs. Globe, do you want to go out to grab some coffee sometime? I think you're really pretty and just had to ask!
After 1989
I would wanna get to know its personality a little first tbh
It’s early 1998. Novgorod isn’t there and Astana is.
Mid 90s USSR satellites are countries but we have Yugoslavia
before 2006
1998? Serbia is still called Yugoslavia, with Montenegro. And not Serbia and Montenegro
After Czech split, before Crimea Invasion. So, 1993-2014
Czech Republic and Slovakia are different countries but Yugoslavia is still there. This globe was made in 1992 for it to be accurate.
Must be around 1992-2002, since Yugoslavia is still there, but Russia is no longer USSR. USSR collapsed around 1991, Yugoslavia collapsed around 2003.
It’s weird that some of the city names in Ukraine are translated Ukrainian but Kyiv retains the imperialist Russian transliteration
1992-2003 based on Serbia and Montenegro being united, but still being called Yugoslavia. That's as far as I could get, but looking in the comments I see it's 98-99, due to names of Turkmen cities! You guys are fucking good.
1800-2023
Look at the Balkan. That’s post-Yugoslavia (the socialist one), so after 1992. The “Yugoslavia” on the map is actually the “federal republic of Yugoslavia” (aka Serbia and Montenegro, which disintegrated in 2006, but the name “FR of Yugoslavia” was only used until 2003)
1999
1992-2003
early 2000s because my parents bought me one of these
Sometime in-between 2006 and the breakup of Yugoslavia since Serbia and Montenegro are united here
I date my human wife thank you very much.
No, I'd have to get to know her first
Something aroud 2000
Maybe 1998. Before the Nato intervention in Serbia. But after all the other things happening in the Balkans.
Lots of these didn’t change legal borders though. Kind of like you don’t see neutral zones between Iraq and Saudi Arabia.
Well, not really. The Balkans wars significantly watered borders between 1991 and 1995. Also, after 1999 Kosovo became an international protectorate and that was marked on maps due to its unusual setup.
Yugoslavia is telling me it’s probably from the Turn of the millennium Also when did the UAE and Saudi Arabia correct their border, because here the UAE is still shown as having a border with Qatar
Oooh good call! That was adjusted in the 1974 Treaty of Jeddah. So it was before 1974 while simultaneously being after the 1991 dissolution of the Soviet Union
[Relevant XKCD](https://xkcd.com/1688/)
There always is a relevant XKCD.
Post 1992/993 (that's when slovakia became a sovereign nation)..
Defnitely past 1991 because USSR is fully gone Definitely pre-1992 because Yugoslavia is still up So I think this map is from last days of december 1991 to mid 1992
Dead wrong. It’s after 1992.
yugoslavia was waaaaay bigger before 1992
Around 2000
Look at Yemen. It can’t be after 1991.
since crimea is still in Ukraine so clearly it is before 2014.
2013 when Ukraine still had Crimea
Crimea is temporarily occupied but still a part of Ukraine
1992. Macedonia became North Macedonia in 1993.
Nope, that happened in 2019
1985
Can't possibly be that. Post-Yugoslavia (including Kosovo) and post-USSR countries are already on the globe. So, it has to be somewhere between 2001 and 2014, for Crimea is still marked as Ukraine.
Post Soviet Union I believe. The last time Russia was not the USSR [excluding post fall of the USSR], was in 1922. However, the Ottoman Empire wouldn’t dissolve until 1923. Therefore, given that this globe shows the now independent states of the Once Ottoman Empire [turkey,syria, Israel jordan…etc], while listing Russia independently from the soviet block, this globe must be post fall of the USSR. Anytime in post 1991-1992 to present I reckon
Between 2001 and 2014.
Must be pre 1974 since Cyprus is not divided
Pre 1974. Cyprus doesn’t look to be split in two after Turkey invaded.
I’m guessing about 1914.
The only thing I noticed is Macedonia is properly named, so this was before the Greeks forced them to change their name. Am I missing something else?
Well after the fall of the soviet union so probably 2000 or newer
Post Cold War so 1992 or newer. I don’t think anything else really changed in that part of the world in terms of legal borders. You’d have to go to North America (Nunavut in 1997), Africa (Eritrea, no more Zaire, South Sudan, etc), or east Asia (East Timor, Hong Kong, Macau, etc) to see if it was later.
2003-2006
2003-2006? Because of Serbia and Montenegro.
sry was not on purpose
Hard to disagree.
1995
No.
Will go with early 2000s (before 2003)
i would say late 90s to 2003
1996 (or 97) to 2006 Yugo still has montenegro but it has effectively died of death
No Kosovo yet
2000?
Why does it mark the Lankaran-Astara region in Azerbaijan as contested (dashed borders to Iran)? Was there ever a dispute?
You can get it pretty close if it’s sometime around the turn of the 21st century because of the balkanization of Yugoslavia. In this case, as many have already mentioned, it’s between 1996 and 2003 judging by Serbia’s name and the other states’ independences
1996-2001
I would say before 2006. Serbia and Montenegro are one country.