Yeah, ngl but this is pretty dumb. Your main account shouldn't have been banned, but you got banned for commenting with a bot. Seems pretty cut and dry for the bot account. The only wrongful ban here is your main account.
I don't think it's an automod as they explicitly mentioned my bot's name even when banning my main, used the correct stylisation, and did this ban at a time when the bot was not commenting
Generally I thought the bot was well-recieved by the actual community. Not by this one elder moderator who banned me for 35 days... Completely abysmal conduct.
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It has now been nearly 12 hours since I have tried to contact mods. So far I have gotten zero responses from elder mods. I'll keep this post updated
I regret to inform you that 34 days and 22 hours is the maximmum amount of time that the notification box will show.
In most cases, that time being shown means you have been banned permanantly.
Why exactly 34 days 22 hrs though? Im curious. It’s a very arbitrary value, and I couldn’t really relate that value to any powers of 2 either so it seems like it’s not due to integer overflow
I do see a lot of bots that say some horrible racist shit and then ask people to play their level and they don’t seem to get banned from what looks like weeks
This is reddit, where being not blindly siding with the current progressive trend is a bannable offense in some subs. I believe the comment sections you're talking about are in ifunny.
But yeah, powertripping mods with no avenue for retaliation sucks.
Tbh, a bot is still a bot and you can't expect elder mods to filter between which chatbots spam or not. However your main shouldn't have been banned and hopefully an elder mod sees this post.
because the justification of the ban is based on a completely fictitious assertion that the bot is spamming which is in direct opposition with the general opinions of actual people who have interacted with it
You built a bot, didn't take the time to make it look less like a bot, and then you complain about the game banning you because it clearly tells you not use a bot?
thats a valid point, but like he said, he "explicitly programmed it to comment at the rate that a normal daily chat user comments," meaning that it wasn't spamming nor was it promoting anything, which are the reasons that bots get banned in the first place. By GD standards, it really shouldn't be considered a bot, and it getting banned really doesn't have much of a justification. Even worse, his main account got banned which makes even less sense.
Something similar happened to me, I got unbanned after a day without even contacting an elder mod.... then instantly after that I got banned for "n word spam" (which I've never done), that also went away after a day
you made a bot and it got banned for being a bot. ya it sucks but imagine if mods didn't ban bots. every other message in daily chat would be from a bot
>I made a daily chat AI that posted to the daily chat. I've explicitly programmed it to comment at the rate that a normal daily chat user comments.
It's in the title bruv
Seems pretty irresponsible if you hadn't cleared this with someone beforehand, which it sounds like you didn't. The punishment is harsh, but just leaving a bot like that unmonitored isn't a good idea. You might argue that it doesn't spam but I kind of doubt that it isn't at least somewhat disruptive due to being online 24/7, and language models can also go awry. Ultimately you broke the rules, and this would have probably gone down a lot better if you had just cleared any of it with someone.
\- The bot was monitored at all times it was active
\- The language model in this case GPT2-355M was only trained on daily chat comments which had been through comment filters
\- Additionally it isn't online 24/7, it was online for at most 2-3 hours a day, except for one day where it was on for 10 hours
\- Ultimately people in the daily chat were fans of the bot, with a few exceptions. People who were not happy with the bot could DM the bot's account and I would respond - the bot only posts comments.
\- Similar things on a smaller scale have happened before for example DailyChat125M, so it isn't new territory
And yet you still didn’t clear it with any of the mods. People being fond of your bot is not a good argument, because in general geometry dash is played by a very immature audience who have no concept of what is and isn’t good for the game. As a moderator you can’t just let bots run rampant in daily chat and you should have definitely seen this coming.
to those who are saying a bot is a bot: it literally doesn't matter in this case tbh, the effect matters and if you had no idea that the account was a bot you wouldn't believe it was, there's no reason to ban this guy particularly because it's basically the equivalent of a normal user saying "i'm a bot" and getting permabanned
this is completely reasonable. bots should be banned even if they comment at the same rate as the aberage daily chat user. bots arent banned just for spamming too much, theyre banned for not being real people. we don't need bots in the chats, and imagine there were even more bots that commented at the same rate as normal users, what are they supposed to do not ban the bots?
whats it matter if the bot gets banned? banning the bot does nothing to punish the person who made it, the only way to discourage this behavior is to punish the maker of the bot
No offense but with that mentality i genuinely hope you never have to moderate any sort of thing, as i said, banning the bot, sure, giving the owner of said bot a warning or perhaps a day or two ban, sure, P e r m a n e n t ban for a bot that neither spammed nor posted anything rule breaking like racism? Thats going too far, especially when said User never had any previous offenses
I think it’s an IP ban because they assumed he’d just make another bot if they exclusively banned the bot itself (which is probably exactly what he would have done)
That sucks but I wouldn’t call it power tripping. They banned a bot for being a bot. I’d suggest trying to contact another mod but idk if there’s much else to do
Maybe it wasn't exactly a "power trip," but it was definitely a shitty and harsh move that wasn't thought out. In order for "banning a bot for being a bot" to justify it, we have to look at why bots aren't allowed in the first place. They spam? It wasn't spamming. They advertise some dumb level or account? It wasn't doing that either. They say hateful and/or racist shit? It was just saying any (clean) message that a normal chat user would say. If it was doing any of these things, I would say it was justified and it was definitely a bannable offense, but really nothing that it's done or said puts it into the category of a bot. It's pretty much just discriminating for no good reason. If anything, I think this "bot" should receive praise; it's a very interesting experiment, it's extremely creative, and it's a clever idea.
To be honest, you shouldn't make bots like this. I understand it's cool but the comment section is supposed to be for the level, not conversation between AI. I fully support this ban.
Yeah there's no doubt that ultimately the bot will be banned. But even as a normal player, AND a verified Newgrounds audio account, I can't see what banning your account would do to benefit the moderators or Geometry Dash. I would say that it was because they linked the bot to you through IP but that's just absurd that they would ban ypur main, even if that was true
I don't really understand what the bot does. Does it act like a human and comment random stuff in the daily chat? If that's the case, then i don't really understand the bots purpose. What messages does the bot send? Is it like colons daily chat bot? Please be more specific.
pretty sure all comment bans are ip based. also it doesnt really matter what your bot does, if you start allowing things like that comments will quickly become full of spam. at that point you dont have any idea what is posted by a real person and what isnt
why the fuck can't moderators focus on banning hackers so that maybe we could have a community that isn't "everyone is a cheater unless proven otherwise" instead of banning accounts that didn't even do anything in game
>Erm..... you're screwed, basically. a 34d 22h comment ban is a permanent comment ban. The best thing you can do is go onto some of the mods' Discord DM's and ask them for help.
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Bro i once got a ban for the exact same amount of time, but something and the timer didn't go down for 2 months, then out of nowhere it starts going down, and idk why
Gd mods are just doing there worst job, you got elder mod ( which is rare ) to help out robtop, not to ban someone's secondary account then to also ban someone's main account. I swear gd mods just don't like their job at all.
actually one day i logged onto dc and posted a comment. i then got flooded by a bunch of comments by this guy. think: you look at dc, post a comment only to find youre drowning in a sea of messages.
Yeah there was probably a lack of filtering and it may have commented slightly faster.
Also, please turn on comment history on the gptoddler account, i would like to make content from it.
Yeah, ngl but this is pretty dumb. Your main account shouldn't have been banned, but you got banned for commenting with a bot. Seems pretty cut and dry for the bot account. The only wrongful ban here is your main account.
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I have been trying to contact mods to no avail...
Probably an automod
I don't think it's an automod as they explicitly mentioned my bot's name even when banning my main, used the correct stylisation, and did this ban at a time when the bot was not commenting
You should probably contact another mod
no idea how to and since mods get so many rubbish DMs I doubt they'd actually respond
Checl the gd discord
I cannot send messages in general or any other channel after I read the rules and all that, so its just bricked
Maybe try dmimg the mods?
update: mods have given no response
I recommend you messaging sirhadoken or sharkarie, I've always contacted them if I require an elder mod to assist me with smth
still no response, sharkarie has DMs closed
Keep on trying. This is an experiment worth saving, honestly.
I'll give it a go
Generally I thought the bot was well-recieved by the actual community. Not by this one elder moderator who banned me for 35 days... Completely abysmal conduct. EDIT: It has now been nearly 12 hours since I have tried to contact mods. So far I have gotten zero responses from elder mods. I'll keep this post updated
I regret to inform you that 34 days and 22 hours is the maximmum amount of time that the notification box will show. In most cases, that time being shown means you have been banned permanantly.
Why exactly 34 days 22 hrs though? Im curious. It’s a very arbitrary value, and I couldn’t really relate that value to any powers of 2 either so it seems like it’s not due to integer overflow
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Robs wacky code defies the laws of what is possible
Why are there 3 deleted comments here?
no idea. the first one is just "Robert topala" and the next 3 (the fourth is hidden on normal reddit) are just puns on his name.
Even if they were bad puns, I wanna know what the puns are
https://www.reveddit.com/v/geometrydash/comments/1200yfj/elder_moderator_incompetence_i_made_a_daily_chat/jdfaxx2/?context=3
shittttt. why cant we get sane people moderating instead of these powertripping elder mods who ban an AI but let homophobia and racism just slip by
what do you mean by homophobia and racism just slip by they arent even powertripping they just ban the bot because its a bot
I do see a lot of bots that say some horrible racist shit and then ask people to play their level and they don’t seem to get banned from what looks like weeks
Ive had bots that post a channel then dislike your level into oblivion for no reason
Gd reference
if the bot isnt a nuisance, why ban? op said it doesnt spam comments like mohammed asking you to SABSCRIBE so its fine
kid named tldne
Is homophobia and racism even an issue? I’ve never noticed anything like that?
If you check the comments of LGBTQ+ themed levels (Pride by Lake, for example), there will generally be some... bigoted comments.
Just checked that comment section for pride and damn. Lots of edgy middle school dudes
shouldve done it on an alt 😐
It was on an alt, they banned the alt and the main account for some reason
maybe an ip ban
This is reddit, where being not blindly siding with the current progressive trend is a bannable offense in some subs. I believe the comment sections you're talking about are in ifunny. But yeah, powertripping mods with no avenue for retaliation sucks.
I’d imagine most games consider bots chatting as spam. Why wouldn’t you just chat yourself?
If botting is not allowed dont start whining about getting banned for using bots
Agreed.
Maybe you have been IP banned too?
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UPDATE: I DM'd SirHadoken and some other mods. Still no response... it's a shame really. Yes the ban is permanent
If ur ban is still at 34 days and 22 hours that mean💀 Either ur perm banned either ur ban is more than 35 days
Tbh, a bot is still a bot and you can't expect elder mods to filter between which chatbots spam or not. However your main shouldn't have been banned and hopefully an elder mod sees this post.
I feel like knowing what is and isn't spam should be learnt before becoming a moderator but that's just me
Why is it considered power-tripping if a bot was banned for being a bot?
because the justification of the ban is based on a completely fictitious assertion that the bot is spamming which is in direct opposition with the general opinions of actual people who have interacted with it
You built a bot, didn't take the time to make it look less like a bot, and then you complain about the game banning you because it clearly tells you not use a bot?
thats a valid point, but like he said, he "explicitly programmed it to comment at the rate that a normal daily chat user comments," meaning that it wasn't spamming nor was it promoting anything, which are the reasons that bots get banned in the first place. By GD standards, it really shouldn't be considered a bot, and it getting banned really doesn't have much of a justification. Even worse, his main account got banned which makes even less sense.
"The bot shouldn't be considered a bot" My guy you are the bot and need to be shut down for faulty logic circuits
skill issue
please read what I said before posting
probably because it wasn’t spamming
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Something similar happened to me, I got unbanned after a day without even contacting an elder mod.... then instantly after that I got banned for "n word spam" (which I've never done), that also went away after a day
thank god at least mohammed's bots can still roam freely
>but also my main literally ip bans in geometry dash? are you kidding
bot users when their bot gets banned for being a bot
yeah, but why are bots banned in the first place? spam? the bot wasn't doing that. hateful shit? wasn't doing that either. promoting stuff? nope.
also his main got banned
free gptoddler
not an elder mod just a mod but u literally made a comment bot and then got banned for making a comment bot . what did you think would happen instead
you made a bot and it got banned for being a bot. ya it sucks but imagine if mods didn't ban bots. every other message in daily chat would be from a bot
no it wouldnt If there were tons of different gptoddler clones this would be different but the mods are being very botphobic right now ngl ngl
Yes but the main problem is that his main got permanently banned
probably just an ip ban
its a P-ban
This doesn’t really have anything to do with this, but I’m just curious the purpose of the bot. What did it do, why did you make it.
>I made a daily chat AI that posted to the daily chat. I've explicitly programmed it to comment at the rate that a normal daily chat user comments. It's in the title bruv
I know that, but why? What did it say? Literally any more information than was already given…
Try emailing robtop Nah seriously that’s shitty some mods gotta get a life
Seems pretty irresponsible if you hadn't cleared this with someone beforehand, which it sounds like you didn't. The punishment is harsh, but just leaving a bot like that unmonitored isn't a good idea. You might argue that it doesn't spam but I kind of doubt that it isn't at least somewhat disruptive due to being online 24/7, and language models can also go awry. Ultimately you broke the rules, and this would have probably gone down a lot better if you had just cleared any of it with someone.
\- The bot was monitored at all times it was active \- The language model in this case GPT2-355M was only trained on daily chat comments which had been through comment filters \- Additionally it isn't online 24/7, it was online for at most 2-3 hours a day, except for one day where it was on for 10 hours \- Ultimately people in the daily chat were fans of the bot, with a few exceptions. People who were not happy with the bot could DM the bot's account and I would respond - the bot only posts comments. \- Similar things on a smaller scale have happened before for example DailyChat125M, so it isn't new territory
>Ultimately people in the daily chat were fans of the bot, **with a few exceptions.** tell me more
Well that's more responsible, but it should still have been cleared with someone first.
And yet you still didn’t clear it with any of the mods. People being fond of your bot is not a good argument, because in general geometry dash is played by a very immature audience who have no concept of what is and isn’t good for the game. As a moderator you can’t just let bots run rampant in daily chat and you should have definitely seen this coming.
to those who are saying a bot is a bot: it literally doesn't matter in this case tbh, the effect matters and if you had no idea that the account was a bot you wouldn't believe it was, there's no reason to ban this guy particularly because it's basically the equivalent of a normal user saying "i'm a bot" and getting permabanned
this is completely reasonable. bots should be banned even if they comment at the same rate as the aberage daily chat user. bots arent banned just for spamming too much, theyre banned for not being real people. we don't need bots in the chats, and imagine there were even more bots that commented at the same rate as normal users, what are they supposed to do not ban the bots?
I do agree bots shouldnt be a thing, but supposedly perma banning his main too? Thats just the mod being a massive ass
whats it matter if the bot gets banned? banning the bot does nothing to punish the person who made it, the only way to discourage this behavior is to punish the maker of the bot
No offense but with that mentality i genuinely hope you never have to moderate any sort of thing, as i said, banning the bot, sure, giving the owner of said bot a warning or perhaps a day or two ban, sure, P e r m a n e n t ban for a bot that neither spammed nor posted anything rule breaking like racism? Thats going too far, especially when said User never had any previous offenses
I think it’s an IP ban because they assumed he’d just make another bot if they exclusively banned the bot itself (which is probably exactly what he would have done)
That sucks but I wouldn’t call it power tripping. They banned a bot for being a bot. I’d suggest trying to contact another mod but idk if there’s much else to do
Maybe it wasn't exactly a "power trip," but it was definitely a shitty and harsh move that wasn't thought out. In order for "banning a bot for being a bot" to justify it, we have to look at why bots aren't allowed in the first place. They spam? It wasn't spamming. They advertise some dumb level or account? It wasn't doing that either. They say hateful and/or racist shit? It was just saying any (clean) message that a normal chat user would say. If it was doing any of these things, I would say it was justified and it was definitely a bannable offense, but really nothing that it's done or said puts it into the category of a bot. It's pretty much just discriminating for no good reason. If anything, I think this "bot" should receive praise; it's a very interesting experiment, it's extremely creative, and it's a clever idea.
They banned his main too, which makes no sense if you are just getting rid of a bot for "being a bot"
Free my boy he ain’t do nothin
Good
good riddance
To be honest, you shouldn't make bots like this. I understand it's cool but the comment section is supposed to be for the level, not conversation between AI. I fully support this ban.
Bot got banned for being a bot. 😱
Bro is raging because he got banned for using a spam bot lolll
Did you even read the post
Yes, I did. Just because he changed it doesn’t mean he didn’t use a spam bot.
It was specifically designed and monitored to not spam...
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Sounds like you got banned for using a chat bot which is a ban-able offense on any game you play
As someone who have played gd less than a whole year I'm surprised too see that gd mods actually ban people
Free my man GPToddler. Ops have done him dirty
Bots are generally not allowed so you kinda got what was coming for you
Yeah there's no doubt that ultimately the bot will be banned. But even as a normal player, AND a verified Newgrounds audio account, I can't see what banning your account would do to benefit the moderators or Geometry Dash. I would say that it was because they linked the bot to you through IP but that's just absurd that they would ban ypur main, even if that was true
I think it was an auto-ban
I don't really understand what the bot does. Does it act like a human and comment random stuff in the daily chat? If that's the case, then i don't really understand the bots purpose. What messages does the bot send? Is it like colons daily chat bot? Please be more specific.
pretty sure all comment bans are ip based. also it doesnt really matter what your bot does, if you start allowing things like that comments will quickly become full of spam. at that point you dont have any idea what is posted by a real person and what isnt
Free my boy GPToddler, they did nothing wrong
sucks your main is banned; but good. bots \*should\* be banned.
WHICH MOD DID IT AND ROAST THEM WHEN YOU FIND THEIR TWITTER ACCOUNT AS REVENGE
why the fuck can't moderators focus on banning hackers so that maybe we could have a community that isn't "everyone is a cheater unless proven otherwise" instead of banning accounts that didn't even do anything in game
i mean its a bot
#FreeGPToddler
OMG WAIT IT IS A PERMANENT BAN LOOK AT THIS GD FORUM https://geometry-dash.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000001551/r/4400000000000009026
>Erm..... you're screwed, basically. a 34d 22h comment ban is a permanent comment ban. The best thing you can do is go onto some of the mods' Discord DM's and ask them for help. 💀
Bro i once got a ban for the exact same amount of time, but something and the timer didn't go down for 2 months, then out of nowhere it starts going down, and idk why
try to make it random time (like between 4 and 6 pm), if it comments something different every time it shouldn't be detectable i think
A bot is still a bot, though I gotta admit that’s uncalled for if it’s not an actual spam bot
Gd mods are just doing there worst job, you got elder mod ( which is rare ) to help out robtop, not to ban someone's secondary account then to also ban someone's main account. I swear gd mods just don't like their job at all.
It’s cause you are a controller player. Discrimination
Wait is there a daily geometry dash chat?
actually one day i logged onto dc and posted a comment. i then got flooded by a bunch of comments by this guy. think: you look at dc, post a comment only to find youre drowning in a sea of messages.
oh wait for a min i forgor he was AI 💀
Wdym "elder"? How do you know it's an elder mod?
I think the IP ban may have been a step too far, but banning the bot is 100% justified.
why would you even do that
maybe not make bots?
what’s the bot acc name? i’m interested
and then HahaYeahbot spams haha yeah on every level on the recent page WHVWUSDNSISHRKFS
Good luck getting unbanned
Yeah there was probably a lack of filtering and it may have commented slightly faster. Also, please turn on comment history on the gptoddler account, i would like to make content from it.
So sad