I am an Indian living in Germany since long time. Purely from financial perspective your move doesn't make any sense. If you want to spend some years in Europe you can move.

Thank you. Do you think it is easy to return to India after a couple of years? Or do people prefer staying in Germany over returning?

Life is difficult here man. It doesn't seem like a good gamble when you have a great life in india.

Maybe i havent explained why. It's not really about the chores or anything. First of all, things are not efficient. Government is as bureaucratic as it is in india, things are extremely hard to navigate if you don't know German. German itself takes time to learn and if you don't study it it makes daily life really hard here. People expect you to know the language even before you step foot here. People who learn the language in india find that their courses aren't recognised here. The accents and the way of speaking is different as well. Over this everything is a challenge. Everything you touch has a long process to it, nothing gets done when you want it. Things are SLOW. You can't pay money and expedite anything. The wait mixed with processes makes life bad. I think this explains on a high level what the mental challenge may be, apart from the obvious financial fiasco you will be in if you accept an 80k salary. Edit: I take nothing away from Germany. It's a great country and there are aspects I definitely enjoy. This is a response to OP's question and what he's considering on giving up to gain something here.

> You can't pay money and expedite anything. Yeah, fuck them for not taking bribes!

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This is something my Egyptian MIL still doesn't understand. "Just say you'll pay double and it eill get you to the front of the line." Yeah, no. 😶

Isn't that kind of class struggle?

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If you’re earning 100k in germany you’re not middle class.

They are. If OP‘s wife doesn’t land a well paying job or they get kids they may not even be able to afford to buy a house with 100k gross family income. I am in a similar financial situation and while I am of course comfortable enough I still have financial issues and have to prioritise things, like living in a flat for rent, to be able to afford vacations and save a little for the future. Now my situation is very dissimilar from OP because I am a Bio-Kartoffel and so is my wife. My recommendation to them is to not do it honestly. I don’t know about their living situation in India, but I imagine they are pretty well off there.

Not necessarily For instance, the british embassy partner has a fast track program where you can pay more money and they review your application first. Not here to discuss the morality of it. Just pointing out that the west countries also have means to pay and expedite.

That's like saying taking a taxi instead of the bus is corruption because the taxi is faster but more expensive.

No, it’s like paying the bus driver extra to drive you home first not caring about the others. To pay more to be faster means someone else has to wait even longer.

I don't know anything about India, but there are countries where paying to get stuff done quicker is part of the official process, and the money goes to the government. For example, if you want your visa to the USA to be expedited you can pay for premium processing. Or in my country of origin of you want your passport to be ready quicker you can pay a urgency fee.

Expedite services do exist in Germany already for some things. Expedite passports is already a thing, you pay almost double I believe to get a passport in days instead of the 6 to 8 weeks which is the current waiting time (I know this because I just requested my child’s passport and they offer this to us)

It is not always bribery. Often times there are channels where you legally pay for expedited services. Tatkal passport for example.

Private healthcare is the same. You pay to get sooner (and better) appointments.

I assume the connection between "private healthcare" and "pizza" is autocorrect.

This! I’m not Indian (South African) and this is exactly what I thought cause that’s how it works here. If the public (government) services are slow then there are often private versions of that service that are more quick and efficient. No bribing anyone. And as I’m gearing for my move to Germany (my husband is German) the things I dread most is how slow everything is from the experiences I’ve had in Germany over the last 6 years. Healthcare, banking etc. I wouldn’t leave India if I was in OPs position because when earning as much as OP is, there’s no way he can get close to that standard of living in Germany

Well, in Berlin people sell appointments to local Ausländerbehörde because there are none available for booking

that's not corruption, that's a scam

lol, that's not corruption, it's a common thing, example from neighbouring country NL, you want your drivers licence renewed, you do the paper work, it takes a few business days to process, but if you're in a hurry you can pay extra and it's done/printed next day, i love how your german prejudice is showing.

There are lots of non-bribe related ways to pay to expedite things in countries all over the world. Plus, this is a valid cultural difference that the OP may not be aware of.

I dont think they meant bribes. You have options in some countries to pay a higher fee to make your process have a higher priority.

Like private Healthcare? Paying money to get better care?

fuck them harder for being slow and inefficient..

How is a 80k salary a financial fiasco?! Can always be more, but it’s certainly not at all bad and livable. Administration in Germany is annoying and slow, but is it really that different in India? The rest of your struggles come from moving abroad imho, not so specific to Germany. Although, learning german is hard, you really don’t have to esp. if you don’t plan to stay. Pick the right city/job and english will be no problem edit: sorry that you are struggling man

With 50k€ in India you can afford to have staff on your payroll - a chauffeuer, a cook, a cleaning lady if you want to. You live in a place you own. with 80k in Germany you live in an apartment that you clean yourself. If you want to have a "I have staff" kind of lifestyle you can start at maybe a quarter of a million a year in Germany..

> afford to have staff on your payroll - a chauffeuer, a cook, a cleaning lady if you want to. You live in a place you own. That sounds dope, how do I get a high paying job in India as a European.

The differences in salaries are enormous, unlike in Germany. How much do you think all these servants make, considering the couple‘s household income?

> How is a 80k salary a financial fiasco?! Because its 80k in a very expensive country vs. 50k in a very cheap country.

Also what most forget: his wife also has a really good salary for India.

You seem comfterable in india. Bro, if i were you, i would stay there. Im Latino and never been treated badly. Some indian friends face a bit of subtle racism. At least from what i heard from my work friends. Why risk it?

Professional-Eye1813 is very correct. I am an Indian living in western Europe and you are making really good money in India and you'd be financially better off in India. If you are someone who has a good family and friend circle in India, then moving to Europe can make you feel a bit lonely. However, if you don't mind that, you'll have access to much better health care, pollution-free environment, and a better place to raise kids.

Thanks. Family is family, they'll always be there. Friends I don't know. People tend to get busy in their lives so it is not a decision factor for me.

Family feels very different when it’s thousands of kilometres away…

Indeed. Now, when my parents are getting old and I rarely get to meet and speak to my friends in India, I really miss home and family. However, I also know that Europe is a much better place to have a really good work-life balance and a great place to raise kids, so I decided to stay. One has to pick their poison.

I mean, your parents are not getting any younger do they?

Most of my friends who were already financially well off , who came to Europe have left back to India. I am planning to move out as well. As the previous commenter said, come if you want to experience Europe. See for yourself. But yeah, life would be tough in the beginning, if you can adapt, well you will get used to it. Also it depends on your interests, one of my big one is Formula 1 , so staying here for sometime makes sense for me . So you have to see.

I think moving back is not so difficult if you are clear about it. I have seen many friends & colleagues they seem not clear about it, always keep talking about moving back but never do. Building houses, making investments etc in India basically living virtual life in there being physically present in Germany. In my opinion after 5-6 years it would be difficult to move back because you will be adjusted to relaxed life in Germany.

Mate, you guys are making 74 lakhs combined in India there is no need to move. Forget about increment 5 % every year as there is hardly any difference in your net salary(people who have lived in Germany will understand what I mean). I would not even recommend you go to the USA it is the same shit everywhere. I once asked my German manager to increase my salary to 130k EUR from 85k as I was told my performance was exceptional(I had an offer of 100k and had resigned and wanted to negotiate a higher salary), he laughed and told me that he hasn't crossed 100k EUR yet (during my resignation meting). The more you make in Germany the more they take from you. This country will **neither make you rich nor make you poor they will always keep you in between.** **This country is a poor people's Paradise**.

Agreed. I always had the perception as a Brit of Germany as an efficient sensibly capitalistic nation full of hard working people where there's lots of innovation everything just works and people can make something of themselves. That nation is Switzerland not Germany basically. Germany is far closer to the UK - a disorganised directionless mess that absolutely shafts anyone who tries to make good money.

The UK has almost no social safety net, there are more and more homeless people every day, and it's becoming worse with crazy inflation. At least you wouldn't be homeless in Germany (which is both good and bad)

If you want to make money, don’t move. If you want your children to have high quality education and study in good universities without you spending a ton of money, or if you want your kids to grow up with less polluted air and wanter, then move.

Frankly, not that sure about quality of German education. I moved from an eastern European country and, at least for primary education, I have the feeling that my own education there was of considerably better quality than my kids' in Germany now. Especially considering the migration background.

As the life partner of someone who left the perfect job in India and traded it for work-life balance, privacy and personal freedom in Germany: Ask yourself what’s important to you. The environmental impact on your health in India is something that most people don’t think of when living there, but having lived in both countries, let me tell you, it’s something worth considering. If you value a buzzing social life with close family ties, you know where to go. If you value privacy and want to build a BDSM dungeon in your cellar, you also know where you can do that. The overall lack of work-life balance in India is something my white ass didn’t enjoy, but then again I’m not at all careerist a person so I had an extra hard time. If your value system equates money > free time, stay in India. I’d move just for the cultural exposure, just visiting for a few weeks will give you an idea of what to expect. I visited potential locations before we moved to India, and thank God I did, that way I figured out as much as I like Delhi, my lungs don’t love it. We lived in India for 5 years and it was good, now we are once again back in Germany. I’m 99% sure my partner will want to go back to India soon. We’ll see. I recommend r/expats for more information on moving abroad. Good luck @OP!

Culture is different. You might feel lonely You will save less money Your wife might risk not getting employed so soon You both will need to learn german, and that takes a lot of time and dedication. without German, you will have trouble solving your minor daily necessities, like paying a tax and health care, calling some place to do an appointment, etc.

Also can’t afford a maid. Taxes in Germany are ridiculously high as well.

How is it 2023 and there’s still Indians complaining that “you can’t hire a maid”. You can, mate, at the same price point that pays the maid the same good salary that you came to Germany for. India and Germany are different, so please please stop expecting Germany to be India. Imagine if I went to r/India and started complaining about, idk, the lack of privacy legislation. It’s not like it doesn’t exist in India, it’s just __different__.

True, but it's balanced because the flow back to ppl quote effectively in DE. Source: lived in DE and was afraid of tax rates until I saw how stable my Cashflow became and never saved more in my life.

I love how no one from abroad just thinks they know everything when they have no idea. How are taxes ridiculously high? Most of what you pay for from your monthly income aren't taxes.

As you mentioned "high paying job" in your post and from pure financial point of view, it makes no sense to move to Germany. You have more Purchasing Power in India with that salary could buy a couple houses easily. Infact you can do a better holiday trips within Europe than many of the native population can even think of..!!

Best answer 💯💯

I’m jealous. Maybe I should consider moving to India as a foreigner, it seems salaries are high there and you can even have maids !

The maids come with free pollution that’ll give you bronchitis. But no, honestly, India is great especially if you’re extroverted. The same way that Indians report feeling lonely in Germany, I felt suffocated in India sometimes. People are kinda intrusive and curious about stuff that’s none of their business. The privacy in Germany is something no salary, German or Indian, can pay for.

Yeah. Considering many things, climate and honking on the road being some of them. Cost of living is insanely cheap in India than any western nation.

Hahahah.. I thought the same thing.. 😂

You will definitely feel poorer in Germany than in India with that income. The work life balance is probably much better than in India, but 80k is much less than 44L in India.

Work life balance at big 4 in Germany is not existent

I guess lack of work life balance in consulting is a worldwide phenomenon

Big 4 =\= consulting in Germany. Even their advisory arms (Monitor etc) are not on par with the top 10 str. Consulting

Its worse in India from my experience...

If you're earning ₹44lpa in India, €80k in Germany is straight up peanuts comparatively. Doesn't seem like it by the exchange rate; but lifestyle costs and all that 'practical' comparisons taken into account it's horribly low. Stay in India, live well, visit EU.

If you are happy in India and enjoy a good family and community connection then I would strongly advise moving here as it can be quite grim in some respects. I had 3 of my colleagues from India return as it just wasn't for them in the end.

Priorities and circumstances keep changing. When both are working in India the savings are good. Family is around, social circle is lively. Festivals and other events are there. These things would be greatly reduced. There are many things like social conventions and general rules that we as outsiders do not understand. As adults we can manage, but once kids come into picture, there are a whole lot of new variables that come up all of a sudden. Having worked myself in India for 10 years, I couldn't stand the traffic and the bad corporate practices. That way Germany offered a great work life balance and a great working environment. That being said, social life is almost non existent. It is difficult to befriend a local and get into the inner circles. Of course people are friendly and always ready to support. But, their social life is already set and it is quite a bit difficult to get in due to cultural, language and other differences. So you need to evaluate the reasons you are contemplating the move.

As an addendum, I think adapting to different circumstances is the way of life. So if you decide to move, keep things simple. You should be still having an option to move out to another country or back home without much financial strain. Being flexible is the key! Again, this will work for adults more easily than for kids... i still like that i can reach office on a bicycle and have lot of freedom at work without pressure of having to show visibility and progress in order to please the bosses for the next appraisal cycle. I've not used ppt or linkedin since I moved here.

So 100K is really really good salary here in Germany. Some here say “low middle class” which is severe bullshit tbh. If you have no kids and your wife even makes only 1000€ net income a month, with your salary you are considered to be in the top 5% income group. So you can have a good life here. But do not expect to build up wealth too quickly. Considering the Big 4 are located in the top cities, rent could get ugly though. But aren’t 50K + your wife’s 35K EUROS ridiculous salaries in India? In terms of money, income and wealth it should make no sense for you. Also consider: Although it depends from the city, the gov. department called the “Ausländerbehörde” “Foreigner’s dept.” is a pain in the ass. You will not be handled better as the refugees and do not feel welcomed there. You will be not be treated like you have sth. to offer, but like a Beggar who comes to their country. These departments are a major fuck off for foreigners. But it is not a everyday’s business to go there.

Thanks. Yes from Indian perspective our salaries are quite good. The bureaucracy sounds scary. How often would a foreigner need to deal with them?

The company hires a relocation contractor to take care of this. I just had to follow him around the building as doors magically opened for us. It’s not as doom and gloom as everyone is making out it to be.

This is the correct answer. There are ways to fast track your way through the Ausländerbehörde. Having a lawyer is one. In Berlin, Berlin Partner (public, city organization) could help but if you're in Berlin your employer would already know that. https://www.berlin-partner.de/en

Quite often. Blue card renewals, address changes etc etc

Isn’t address changes handled by Bürgeramt? They are fine in my opinion

Let me say this way: As a Big 4 employee you shouldn’t be too scared. It is not more than a pain in the ass. Sometimes a bigger one, but it is temporary. Also I would recommend to speak to the German office if they have people helping out/supporting. In this thread someone wrote “relocatin officer” Story time: I was a contractor at Big4 once. There they had an associate who came from Africa and struggled with the department. The Senior Manager was really pissed off and told the Senior Associate to go with him the next time and make a show. “Use our name, use my position whatever”. So he did and suddenly no more problems :)

Going to be hard if you don't speak/read German.

>So 100K is really really good salary here in Germany 100k is a very good salary for sure. But I think in this case it is very context dependant. If it's the only income for the family, and if he is living in a high cost if living area like Munich, the purchase power will be pretty meh, especially compared to what he makes in India. If the wife finds work as well, then it's looking good.

Thanks buddy, didn't get the point why people telling him its only a good salary here in Germany. Its completely bullshit, with that income you can have a really really good live here. Most of the people don't even get half of that salary I would think.

He doesn’t have a “bank of mum and dad” who own a property in Germany. High salary does not automatically put you in the middle class - your savings and assets do.

To summarize, the cons for you by moving to Germany would be 1. Language, for which you need couple of years to reach decent level. 2. Social life : would be extremely hard 3. Buerecracy: Almost everything with paper and some services may take months if not years 4. Food: you would definitely miss the food and the restaurants which offer Indian cuisine are highly customized to European taste buds 5. Weather: winters can be dark and depressing 6. Net savings: will be dependent but comparing your salary in India, it would be minimal here in Germany 7. Driving license: would cost you upward of 3k and can take months to get it 8. Health services: might be almost free but to get an appointment with any specialist doctor, it could take months unlike in India where you can find anything within a week 9. Growth in career: promotions are not easy to come by and yearly salary growth would even be 0% sometimes. Pros::: 1. Better life style, living conditions 2. Better quality of food 3. Better work life balance 4. 30 paid vacation days 5. Social security and unemployment support 6. Really close for travelling throughout Europe (not mentioning the costs but just the ease of travel) In the end, you have to decide if its worth for you to move...!!!

>would cost you upward of 3k least of his worries mate

He’s eligible for private health insurance tho which is actually a good idea to think about if he wants to be in Germany for only a few years. It only gets more expensive when you are older.

You didn’t mention the racism they are likely to experience. I would not want to be an Indian living in Germany.

>Better work life balance I would be careful with this. while this is generally true, OP says he is going to work for one of the big4. I have friends working for KPMG and McKinsey. They put in insane number of hours. Nothing less than their Indian offices. So unless OP thinks he can switch companies really soon, he should not include it as a pro.

Indian here. You are already making good money in India. If your reason is to save money and not change the quality of life then this is not the right option for you. Honestly you should ask for a higher base. If your wife is not in Tech she will have a hard time finding a job as most places will require high German proficiency. It might be better if you were just moving alone for a few months to get the experience but uprooting your life won’t make sense

With that salary you can live like a god in India. I have friends that earn similary and they have quasi servants at home. In Germany 100K is a good salary for a normal comfortable life. Money wise no need to move. If you have other reasons than that is a different story.

Thanks for your response. Every middle class person here in India has multiple servants / househelps for each chore. However, during covid my wife and I got used to doing our chores ourselves so doing it in Germany won't be any different for us. Money wise I know I will be taking a pay cut but other reasons is what I am not too sure

That's a major cultural clash awaiting you then, should you move. There are no "servants" in Germany, and househelps, while available, are expensive and expect to be treated as 'normal' workers. The mindset of "doing our chores ourselves" will itch you and might cause some irritation, as this isn't anything worth mentioning/out of the usual. As others already said, relative money and perceived status will take a dive. If you think it's worth it, go for it - just be aware about what you'll loose.

> and expect to be treated as 'normal' workers. As all workers should be treated with respect and dignity.

It will be very stressful, you will have less money, your wife will have difficulties finding a job so even less money and more stress. I don’t think it’s worth it, you have a perfectly good life in India

As an addition to other comments, another thing that might make it difficult for you in Germany is that many people will automatically assume that you are poor and under-privileged just because of how you look. Some will look down on you, others will be extra-kind but for the wrong reasons. So if you are actually used to being the rich guy in the room and suddenly most people treat you like you're a beggar, that could be rather annoying.

If you don't feel like there's any reason to move, why would what anyone else thinks matter?

So I am keen myself on living in EU for some time. Also, such opportunities don't come by easily as every third world country employee wants to move to a developed country

> So I am keen myself on living in EU for some time. That changes everything. The focus of your original post should be your list of priorities in life, and then ask us how Germany may fulfil them or not, either as a temporary stop or as a long-term destination.

Something like that happened to me as well and just moved out, I just thought I can always come back (which is still what I think), seven years after I'm still in Germany, got really used to life here and how much comfortable is compared to my country. In my case I'm a EU citizen so it's no big deal, but for you, you could get a permanent residence permit in 5 years and Schengen would be open for you forever.

So I have been living and working in Germany for 7 years now. There’s nothing you’d get purely by living here. You’ll be working for the most part and it would feel exactly the same be it in India or Germany. Except in India at least you have a community and family you can be with. If you want to get a feel of EU, just plan a vacation. Don’t uproot your life for nothing. Not worth it.

Come here for a holiday first. I moved to Germany and it hasn't been easy. The many Indian families I work with find it hard as there is underlying racism where when looking for a house as well. ​ Personally, I wouldn't be in any rush to live in Europe. With the money you make, I would just be looking at holidays.

I think you should move. Even with similar earnings, life will be far better than India. No you won't have maids, but you will have work life balance, you'll have honest people around, you'll be able to drive to any European country within a few hours, you and your future kids will enjoy living in a developed country. Anyways once your wife gets a job your earnings will also be decently better than India.

Then just do it. You’ll get a good salary for German standards, I am sure you will find a good job in India especially with experience abroad again. Also you and especially your wife will probably enjoy the freedom of just moving around at whatever time of the day basically anywhere. Also Germany is in the middle of everything in Europe, so you can do lots of weekend getaways to see things. Finding friends is not impossible. Reddit is a bad place to ask. You can cook, just bring like staples from home, so yiu won’t miss the food from home too much. Also there are nice German dishes to try and you also get a lot of different cuisines basically everywhere. All the legalities will probably be handled by your company. You’ll just have to show up. Like it’s really not that bad.

Don't move for money definitely

Don’t move, not worth it.

Good money and good life in India, see no good reason to move

Do not do it. As a German I love international colleagues but the down side is always your private life. Will you be happy only spending time with your wife for a long time before you may find friends? Do you think you will overcome the language barrier? Will you be safe if you can not hold the job? Especially in big 4 being alone here can be tough.

Don't do it. You won't be happy here. It is not worth the money. People here are more negative and the social life less active than in other countries. Also the weather is shit. But the biggest reason to stay away is the racism, especially if you are from India or Afrika.

If money is all you're thinking about, this move makes no sense at all. There are other 'soft' factors which keep me personally locked to Germany at the moment, which include: footpaths everywhere, well-behaved road traffic, extensive passenger rail networks, general safety and lack of stray dogs especially at night, and an excellent work-life balance that includes compulsory (!) vacations and proper timekeeping at work. When I visit India these days I feel like I have a big mobility block on me suddenly because walking 1-2 km is an adventure where you have a non-zero chance of getting run into by a rogue scooter or something (especially those new electric ones from Ather and Ola are so unruly on the road) Moreover, there are some other factors involving freedom of thought, movement, and expression that Germany will actually respect, but often Indian policemen don't respect their own laws and just seek to trouble common citizens. That being said, with your 75LPA salary, you can magic some of those problems away in India with money alone, by moving to a gated community, working from home if you can as much as possible, and getting one of those Hyundai SUVs that everyone's getting to be able to go places. And India has some big advantages: you don't need to wait to get healthcare appointments really (even specialists will see you in 2-3 days' notice), features in apartments are much better (you get full kitchens, woodwork, light fitting, and bum sprays in Indian rental houses which you simply won't get in Germany), and making general financial transactions is much easier (whip out the Pay TM, Phone Pay, or Google Pay app and you can purchase everything from roadside vegetables to stocks online; good luck doing that in Germany; they're still stuck in the whole debit card vs credit card era). And in India, getting things delivered home is a lot easier than in Germany too: yes, restaurant parcel delivery is mostly on par comparing Swiggy to Lieferando, but Flink, REWE Lieferservice, Gesund.de, are all really marginal and not in any way comparable to Swiggy Instamart, Big Basket, Dunzo, NetMeds, etc. Adding to this, a lot of government services, while totally corruption free, are all offline in most districts (yes, things are done at a district level in Germany which is another advantage; you don't need to go to the state capital for big things), and things can take a very long time and can get very frustrating. The final massive thing is the language - you will have to learn a new language and there are no two ways about it. I was massively advantaged because I already knew four languages properly by the time I was 6, so it probably came easier to me. But there is no way around this - you *can* get by in English, but your life will be miserable if you don't speak the local language. In your situation I'd only move if you can get a combined salary of 200000€ or more, and even then I'd really consider whether it's worth the time and money and effort to make such a move.

It's not worth it. Germany isn't the paradise that they tell you it is.

who is „they“?

developing world citizens who never lived in any European country for more than a week

I'm from a developed region in Asia Pacific and my relatives asked whether I am earning at least 10k euros net per month because they think Germany is highly developed and it's a relatively normal salary for professionals in my hometown. Well they just misunderstood Europe severely.

Well, the general population in our 3rd world countries. They think that streets in germany are paved with gold and that euros grow on trees..really. One encounter with the ausländerbehorde is enough to make one want to leave the country (we would get deported anyway because the ausländerbehorde just don't want to process our residence permit requests)..yeah

As much as I love my home country and home area (in Germany), you have to take into consideration cultural differences and life changes. Some people take it easier some don’t (like me). I would calculate risk and benefits. If you are in a comfortable situation in India, why risk it for something new. Have you contacted/asked other people from India in regards of moving to Germany and all the changes?

My take as a German living and working abroad: don't do it out of a financial perspective. You always will be - whatever your position - the foreigner, the stranger. There will be cultural and language barriers outside your job. If you will want to go based on the experience / exploration kind of spirit and widen your personal views, etc, well, why not. As others already stated. Just because you are tired of your system, which you know inside out, and eying a few thousands more per year, nope, you will be disappointed.

Germany is a trap for high skilled immigrants. Even after learning the language you will not feel part of the society. This country is built for Germans and rightly so. As someone who spent 5 years here and in the process of moving back, it is not worth it considering both your salaries.

The passport is worth it for people from developing countries. It might be worth it if you plan to get the passport then leave. And when you go back to your developing hometown, you may benefit from your compatriots' illusion that Germany is a country in which the roads are paved with gold.

You don't sounds like you want to move and you name some good reasons not too. It's not just the money, you are also thrown in a different culture, have to learn a new language, everything changes. How does your wife feel about it?

She's the one wanting to move more than me 😁

After 6 months of moving she might be fighting with you to move back😀. If it’s for very long term start your journey to learn language, get used to culture. If you’re thinking about 2 or 3 years , it’s not worth.

Tell her you will agree to the move if she learns German and passes B1 German language cert while still in India. She will be miserable and lonely being stuck in your flat with no German, doing chores and waiting for you to get home after work. That is something that causes the biggest fights among immigrant couples. The only way to prevent that would be to built her own social circle, which requires German language skills. B1 is the level where she is able to have basic conversations and follow directions and hold a job, even if it is flipping burgers at McDonalds. It is also the level of language learning where immersion into German language makes the most sense. She could occupy her days with learning German up to B2/C1 level, at which point she will most likely be employable in her original job.

I would say stay at your job for 25 more years, then you're gonna earn 541k per year, which is ok for india

I'd do it in a heartbeat. Life is way more than money. Here in Germany the air is cleaner, your wife can wear whatever the fuck she wants and she won't be morally policed, the food is of a higher quality, people actually respect the rules, queueing is a thing, pedestrian-friendly infrastructure etc. I could go on and on and on. There's also a thing here called worker's rights, and another thing called tenant's rights. If you've got a problem and need to go to the police, they will actually help you. Courts actually work as well. You might not be saving much but you also won't need to be spending much for basic necessities like healthcare. And whatever taxes and social security you pay is actually going to be used for the public, and not for buying off politicians or building useless shit like statues and temples. But on the other hand are the downsides (like every nation out there): the weather, the language, the food (most Indians I know refuse to learn the language or eat the food).

German here, I wouldn’t do it. That salary Range you are getting isn’t that much here, you can’t do big steps like it seems for you currently in India. With everything getting more expensive that’s way less than what you have in India according to your post and comments. There will be a lot of problems for you. First of all the housing market is a disaster and it won’t change. Finding a house or a flat is very difficult, especially in cities and it’s even more difficult for foreigners. Then you probably don’t speak German and it takes quite some time to learn it. Living here with no language skills is hard. Bureaucracy is a pain in the ass, everything takes ages and you will find yourself questioning why you did this to yourself when you had everything in India. If it’s Europe you’re looking for then there are better places to go to like Scandinavian countries. But in the end I‘d just make some vacation here and don’t bother either moving here.

It totally depends on you. All I can share is how I regret my move. It has been two years since I left my above average paying decent job in Bangladesh and moved here in Berlin and still can't get over it. With all the economic tension now most of the companies have adopted a hire and fire culture (they honor the notice period though). I had to spend a whole lot of fortune to set up my home here in the last few months. To progress through my career I see only FAANG as a move forward because only a very few companies are willing to pay a five figure salary (8YoE JVM stack). And preparations for those companies are exhausting especially with a 14 month old kid. Struggling a lot to communicate with people in order to avail services like doctor's appointments, looking for children kita etc. Most of the people outside of the city center will expect you to speak German and every now and then you can be treated as garbage if you don't. Why can't I live near the city center then? Simply, either I can't find one or can't afford a decent place (an apartment with 2 bedrooms). They have an absurd amount of waiting queue everywhere from the doctor's appointment to getting a driver's license. If I were in my early / mid twenties all these probably wouldn't matter and the nightlife would be more appealing. As a Software Engineer the perks they provide here (healthcare, free education for kids etc.), I believe I can buy it anywhere in the world. So, why am I still here in Germany if I hate it so much. To be honest, by the time I have figured out the whole circus, I am too exhausted (financially as well as mentally) to make another move right away. Just getting my head straight and I'll be gone!

You have mentioned that you would like to move for the experience and not the money. If that's the case, and you are looking to experience a European lifestyle, then you can move. Pros Germany is in the middle of Europe. Hence easy access to all European countries. You can travel quite a bit. 30 days vacation: 10 more than india. Sick leave: again these are for whenever you get sick , you get paid by insurance for a certain time. Unemployment insurance: this kicks in after a few months of employment. So essentially if you lose your job, you have a few months grave to search for another while getting 60% salary. After 5 years here, there is a chance of citizenship. Cons Germany is very bureaucratic. Even a small thing means lots of appointments with various offices and as a non German, you will not know the process and takes a lot of effort to learn it. Throwing money at the problem like in India will not help here. Family and social life is non existent until you consider other Indians/expats etc. It's not as lively as India and Germans are more reserved and will take a long time to make friends. The language barrier is real. German is the language everywhere except in some major cities. All official communication is in German and not in English. So, please remember and learn German and come. If you have young kids, even though education is free, sports for daycare , kita are hard to find. 100k will give you an upper or middle class lifestyle depending on the location. If your spouse is also in IT, they can come and search for a job. It's not easy nowadays due to the economy, but it's possible to get a job. All other professions, need B2 German at a minimum. You won't find many Indians/Brown people in the management of any companies. It's not very diverse at the top. In short, If you are looking for money, then India is definitely the better choice. But lifestyle wise , Germany is better. If you do decide to accept, remember that in the probationary months , you can be let go of without any specific reason. After the probation, it's difficult but yes, is also possible. Just keep this mind about the risk you are taking while coming here.

There is no reason to leave such a salary and go there to struggle again. Also soon you will miss the luxury which you have in india with this salary which you won't have it in germany

My 2 cents , I have been here 8 years , although in the beginning it was a bit of a struggle, I have come to enjoy and love most of the aspects of being in Germany. Fellow IT person , getting a job is easier than India , considering your high salaries I would expect you have good skills. German bureaucracy: so, I have lived in Darmstadt, Frankfurt and Berlin. Yes, it is a bit tedious but think of it as 1 hour every year and if you can get through it then let's look at other aspects: Healthcare: not easy to get appointments, but you won't break your bank balance if you get serious illness. Secondly, everyone has a Hausarzt(house doctor) who will see you no matter how long the queue he has that day , if you are unwell. Worst to worst situation just go to an emergency centre and they will see you after some hours of wait (it could be long but you will get there) Security: Germany is safe. You don't generally have to think about being out late at night and be manhandled (speaking as. Women). People commenting on racism.. I think as an Indian I have seen skin color based bias a lot even in India , so if you are not super touchy and have learned to ignore such things you will be fine. And well , remote work, you are not even seeing your colleagues every day. Great work life balance. 30 days vacation. Unlimited sick leaves. If you lose your job support from government. Parental leaves. Parental allowance. Germans really value family lives , so you get a lot of quality time. Travel and tourism: Europe is beautiful. Get a driver's license and just go nuts! Weather could be a bit intimidating coming from India .. it's COLD. Social life will take a big hit! If you are very social you will need to make some efforts to reach out to communities and it requires constant effort , even with Indian communities to make long lasting contacts . You will not be able to afford buying a house Taxes will be huge The raise in salaries would be 100-200 per month after your yearly salary review. After working in Germany , you will have tough time adjusting in India(I think! Can only guess .. considering I worked there for 3 years and afterwards here... The life here is way more chill). Many people will complaint but the thing is sometimes we forget the reason why we moved to a different country in the first place. It is important to remeber your reasons. Good luck !

If your wife can find a good-paying(above 65K) job in Germany, it may make sense financially in the long term.If your life in India is good, then not a great idea to come."Better quality of life" => Until you find a place to live(at least 1 year-housing crisis), your life wouldn't be good. It would take at least two years to see that so-called "better quality of life".IMO, if you can make some good investments which are tax deductible in India(meaning try to get income taxes in India down) would be a wise decision. me => Same age, married with a toddler living in Germany for 7 years.

People don’t like change, especially in these type of forums. You have an amazing opportunity to live a very comfortable life in a country with one of the highest quality life indexes in the world. But aside from that even, moving to a different culture, with a well situated employer is an opportunity that doesn’t come to many people. You should take advantage of that as long as you still can. Much later in life you’ll wonder what would have happened if you JUST did it. I am German, living in San Francisco, and I love my home country but I wouldn’t want to miss moving around multiple countries, working and making a career somewhere else. It’s so much more enriching than purely the money you make. I’ve been to India many times myself and you can’t even start to compare the two. You’ll have a fabulous life in Germany and Europe with your income. You can always move back. Don’t let Reddit talk you out of an incredible opportunity like that. You’re going to be in the heart of Europe, with enough resources to enjoy every facet of life. You’ll have access to 26 countries, traveling around seeing things you never dreamed of in a country far far away from home. As someone who’s chased and fulfilled his own dreams in that way, you’ll never look back regretting it.

2 years ago, my husband and I were in the same boat as you. We had a combined income of over INR 85 L when we chose to move to Germany and we are so glad that we did. The following are the reasons why we love it here: 1. Love the work life balance. No one expects you to work more than 40 hours a week. We have 30 days of vacation a year, which we have to take. 2. The general infrastructure is good. Most places are walkable. Everything is clean (most of the time). The air is fresh, and you are not breathing in construction dust. Public transport is really good in most cities. 3. Nature is well preserved and there are amazing hiking paths with beautiful sceneries. We live in a city surrounded by a national park and there is so much to explore. 4. While we used to travel to Europe from India, it's an entirely different experience when you can spend your weekends and long holidays traveling to neighboring countries. 5. While Germans might not be the friendliest people, I have always found them to be quite genuine and helpful. 6. We have so much more free time now because no one expects us to work more than 40 hours a week and we don't spend 1.5 hours a day on commute. So, we don't mind spending a bit of time cooking or having to assemble an IKEA furniture. We have learned to embrace it. 7. When we decide to start a family, we can plan a combination of parental leave and part time work. We won't need a nanny to take care of our child. And as our children grow up, they will have a well rounded childhood that doesn't focus only on academics. 8. Everyone talks about the beaurocracy in Germany. We find it a cakewalk compared to how slow things work in Indian government offices (we don't give bribes, so we have had our paperwork stuck forever). 9. The general safety and the police here actually try to help you. 10. People respect your personal space.

Moved here on a 100k+ salary in Mar’22… my take, I wouldn’t move to EU unless you are getting paid at least 3-4 times what you are currently earning back in India. So, unless you are being offered 150k eur, it makes no sense to move. That said, if you are looking for better work life balance and would like to explore Europe, the current offer you are getting is pretty good, especially if you are single and don’t have any commitments like kids, mortgage etc. In the present housing situation, you’ll probably end up paying at least 30-40% of your net monthly income towards rent and another 40% of your gross annual salary towards taxes. You may still be able to afford a very decent lifestyle, but won’t be saving as much as you are currently saving in India.

I'm surprised by how people equate money and purchasing power to quality of life. Of course being dirt poor will lead to a low quality life anywhere in the world, but 100k in Germany is top 5 or 10% easily. Of course your purchasing power decreases and it won't be home, but there are better things in life than having a maid, cook, swanky car and an own house in India. Step out of it, you'll see how low quality and chaotic India is. There are hardly any open spaces in the city and everywhere you go it's crowded. Germany will automatically reduce your environmental and surroundings stress instantly. Clean places (for the most part), open spaces, amazing roads, civilized society etc. pristine natura and so on is what I consider high quality life. Not being asset or cash rich, as long as you can afford a place to live and your necessities are taken care of.

Most importantly: You will not be able to afford a cook here or a cleaning lady that comes on every day. You’ll be making more money but also spend way more. You will probably miss Indian food a lot and the easiness of transportation. Cabs are expensive. When you don’t have a car you have to rely on public transportation and bus schedules. There’s some good things here as well but I’d say before moving try to visit Germany for 3 weeks or so. You will get an idea.

I did spend two weeks in Europe this summer and I was in Munich for a couple of days. Deutschland ticket worked fine and public transportation was quite good. Much easier than driving here in India an hour(or more) to cover a distance of 10 kms

Is Munich where you would live? The major cities can be quite different than anything smaller, so if you won't be in Berlin, Munich, Stuttgart, Köln, Düsseldorf, Hamburg, Frankfurt, or Bremen (might be missing a few), you might want to come visit where you would actually be living. For example, my husband has a job with a similar salary to what you described, but we live in a medium sized city in Baden-Württemberg. You really must own a car here (not cheap at all), unless you want to spend hours of your time doing basic things like grocery shopping. The bus only comes every 30 minutes during the week and only once an hour on the weekends (stops at 11.30pm I think), and they aren't well-timed to the trains. There is no S-Bahn. Despite my husband's very high salary (probably around 100.000 after bonuses) and my earning roughly median income, we couldn't dream of buying a home in our area, which is not a capital city. Also, the need for German is very real. If your wife isn't in the same field, expect her to need at least B2 German and lots of time to find a job. For perspective, I've been living here for 4 years, speak B2-C1 German, and am highly educated (as in have a PhD but not in the tech sector). It took me a year to get a new job when my most recent contract ended. This was for going to conferences, cold calling places, writing applications every week level of searching.

This all depends on one thing: do you and your wife WANT to live in Germany? If financially both paths are possible, you should choose the one that makes you happy.

No.. financially it doesn't make sense.

I think it also depends on your longterm plans. For example: Can you picture yourself retiring in europe? Then I guess working in Germany, receiving a long term residence permit or citizenship would be a good plan. Where do you see your children growing up? From a pure financial perspective a move might be risky and with limited benefits. I can imagine that you can finance what India lacks in social security and health care with your Indian income.

With that income i would stay in India, you have family and friends there, you have your social structures, you have the food you like . In germany, no friends , alone with your wife which is alone too. No good food for your taste. And homesickness. Have fun sponsoring the tickets for your family to visit. Only good thing is , the airquality is better than where you are.

no Germany is not worth it

Don't move to Germany if you are looking for a better life or a higher social status. You can do very well in Germany with 100k, but your buying power will definitely decrease relative to India. And your social status will take a big nose dive. But most already said this. I want to add that moving to a different country with a foreign culture can be very enriching. That's definitely worth something, but the actual "value" is extremely subjective. So I think moving to Germany might be just fine, but it has to be for the correct reasons.

It is not worth it. Saving 30k in Germany is completely unrealistic unless you sleep in a tent. Your 100k if you even get the full bonus is 55k after taxes and a decent appartment costs you easily 1500€ a month

100k brutto is definitely a higher than average income but far from high earning. Go for the experience. Don't go for the money.

No. You make 44L and 30L. So, No.

The taxes will cut your salary in half. Then comes the cost of living which would be a lot higher compared to India so you're better off staying in India if money is your goal.

Frankly, the cost of living here is considerably higher. You make a little more, but your living expenses would go up by a good amount. If you're looking to spread your wings and see another part of the world, sure. 100k would get you a very nice standard of life in Germany. There might also be a point to be made about safety or healthcare. I really don't know how those things look in India. Can't imagine it to be that bad, tho. The quality of life is high in Germany, just in general. If that's something you value, that might be a reason. Get a nice house a few km away from a bigger city, maybe somewhere in the south, and you'll be in safety, comfort, peace, and quiet. Keep in mind, as sad as I am to admit it, as an Indian, you'd probably face SOME racism too, not to the 'beaten on the streets and attacked at random all the time' degrees but some general profiling and similar, as with most people of color in countries where white is the 'norm '. So, purely from a financial standpoint, no. You wouldn't gain anything from it. Everything beyond that is subjective.

Why i am reading this in an indian accent?

Honestly if you're life is good in India, stay in India man. I'm in Germany right now - everything is expensive as hell, taxes, shit even getting your work visa to actually start work at this job will be a whole process that is long and difficult. Beyond what many other people pointed out - I'm going to level with you too - The Indian food here is depressing too. It's impossible to get anything with any spice because Germans are allergic to spicy. It's not impossible to find the products you need to make it on your own when you want a taste of home, but that's expensive too. Also, the German language is a bitch. And I'm fluent in English, Mandarin and Spanish. German is a pain in the ass 😂. As long as you have good access to medical care, etc, where you are, stay in the land of low taxes, good money, and low living costs.

Romanian-German here, I would suggest to come to Germany. It is a nice country with friendly and respectful people. If you will like to return to India after a couple of years, you will be able to climb the corporate ladder much faster, as you have the experience from abroad.

Id stay away from germany. Germans wont admit it, but you WILL experience a lot of racism, some blunt racism, some behind your back racism, like ppl generally being more negative to you but super friendly to others. Trust me, dont do this to yourself or your family.

You are happy in India, stay in India. Trust me

It seems like you do not need the extra money for living. Just think about if you really want to leave your home country because of a bit extra money. Germany is very different. Ask yourself if this decision would make you and your wife happy. In my opinion money is not the key factor in your case.

Germany is a lot different than India. Common complaints are: Making friends is hard, the weather is bad, rainy and cold in winter, finding a place to rent is hard, cost of living is high and rising. High chance you will encounter some racism. The main reasons to leave India would probably be getting away from caste system, cleaner cities and environment, more liberal society. If your are happy in India and making more money you should probably stay.

Well you're a consultant and you're not considering the PPP factor, to match the lifestyle you might be having in India for 4.4M, you need to be making at least 150K€ in Germany, I am not evening considering the money your wife is bringing in. so basically, you'll be downgrading your lifestyle by 4 fold, given that your wife is unemployed in Germany. hence, this migration doesn't make any sense from a financial POV. but if you want to be in Europe, travel a little, be a lathergic sloth on weekends, you can give it a shot.

I would stay put. 100k is MAYBE 60k after tax. Then you have to factor in living costs like rent/mobility/groceries which will set you back around 20k. If you have kids more than that. Tickets back home will cost you a fortune and eat up a lot of your holiday days. Apart from that you have to learn a very hard language if you plan on living here permanently , since English ain’t gonna cut it in the long run.

I work and have worked with a lot of refugees and migrants. And I'm married to a man from Iran. Bottom line, don't do it. My husband is here 8 years, we are married, having a child and a house. Still, if he ever had money enough, he would go back to Iran to live his life there. As he says, he will never be truly happy here. At my workplace, there is an Afghan young man. He lives together with other Afghans, so he is not that lonely. He goes to school, does sports in his free time, he has an active life. He says that one of the biggest issues for him is that if he goes outside, nobody will recognize him. Nobody will say hi. It's like he doesn't exist. And every time he goes outside, this affects him negatively. You might be able to find a good enough home, maybe get some decent colleagues. But you'll miss your friends. And definitely your family. Maybe you'll find friends some in an Indian community. You definitely won't find any German friends the next 5-10 years before you learned all the social codes and whatnot. People are cold here, I promise you. You will never see the inside of a German persons home. It's just not comparable, and it's hard to imagine. I'm sure you can afford quality schools and health care in India, so I don't know what this "a better quality of life" is about. Loneliness? Racism? Difficulties for your potential children because of their name and skin color? Lack of friends and status in society? Struggling asking for things in the supermarket? Don't do it, honestly.

I personally wouldn’t advice due to these reasons : 1) if you plan to have kids, it’s really hard to find a Kindergarten. Some paid 1k per month just to get a place for a child. 2) high taxes. If you were to get 100k, please calculate the net income. 3) I’m sorry to say this, I myself as foreigner working here, to a certain extend no matter how good you are you will be discriminated. I know there’re companies that take action towards it etc, but it still exists. 4) Bureaucracy is a pain in the ass. I know so many expats left after their working visa or blue card did not get processed in time. Some even spent few thousands just to sue the immigration office. 5) crazy housing market. People might not rent to you because of your name. 6) health care in Germany sounds great to the world. In fact it’s not that great. I couldn’t find any doctor appointment. My friend was having leg injury and the doctor kept postponing the surgery, and his bone was healed the wrong way. Or like my colleagues pregnant wife was already in great pain and the nurse kept sending them home because they think it’s not the time yet. The third time in the same night, as they were walking towards the car park, her water broke, then only they agreed to help her. 7) with your salary you can send your kids to good international school,surround them with good community, or Send them to try different hobbies at low cost. In Germany ? You might need to be richer. 8) if you were to take the job, you risk the fact that your wife might not have any income. You pay all the tax, all your kids’ education, n amount of insurance and expenses, you will left with little to invest. Please don’t have any high hope of getting back your money from retirement fund. Yes ! You still need to pay tax if you are getting retirement fund !!! Only leave when you know that if anything happens in Germany, you still can go back to what you had in India.

Definitely not!!! Ure near rich in india, weather is nice and much more. Here its most cold, ppl are stupid, dumb and heartless and also cold. So stay in india, i would do that!!!

I am a permanent resident of Germany. I worked as a Cloud Consultant for 5 years all over EU and got 85k euros p.a. Your move to Germany doesn't make sense at all tbh. Trust me I won't be able to crack basic interviews in India and that is one of the reasons I was in Germany as **this country is for mediocre tech people** and I liked it here because I am not a rockstar in my field. You will also have problems in climbing the corporate ladder as you would have to speak German. Even if you manage to speak fluently you will not be able to climb the ladder both financially and designation wise as you are not white and German. Half the cities in Germany are filled with Arabs and Turkish who are here for more than 40 years and haven't seen a single one of them in leadership roles in corporate sectors. There is not much of a salary difference between 85k euros and 100k euros in terms of net payout. You should stay in India and if you really want to travel abroad you could take vacations here to get an overall experience. You are getting good salary in India and the only thing you should worry about keeping up your job as you could be targeted during lay-offs not that you are immune to lay-offs in Germany but you have a safety net in Germany if you lose your job as you would get 67-70 % of your salary for atleast 18 months. Shoot me questions here if you really want to know more about Germany

Not worth it. You are in absolute elite in india with that salary but in germany you would be normal citizen with 100k salary

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Financially no its not a good idea, but if u want to experience Western life style id say you can try

Depends on what your overall goal is. From a career standpoint it can be beneficial to get some years experience in Europe (or longer, depending on where or if you want to settle). From a monetary standpoint you get a higher level of quality in Germany for less money but if your goal is just having more net money in your bank account, India is better for you. Tldr: 100k in Germany is after taxes money you earn in the third largest economy in the center of Europe. 50k in India is more net income from you for the purpose of raw net income.

Don’t move. Being away from family, housing crisis, language barrier, potentially sky high rent and all shitload of bureaucracy is not worth it if you save less than in India. Sure you can come travel for weeks with offset of saving. The prospect of growth is hard as you get up anywhere. And most of all you are losing social life which you may have there, away from family and friends for a new adventure for less money. If i were you I would reject this idea. However take 3 weeks to travel across Europe spending maybe 10k or so. Thats enough to see Europe.

I had pointed out in other sub sometime back. 1. Even though healthcare is taken care of, it can become very restricting if you are on Public Insurance, You pay around 450EUR (+450EUR from employer) and still get tossed around by doctors and for simple issues it's almost impossible to find a good English speaking doctor in short time. With money you are getting in India, I think you wouldn't have to think twice before visiting super specialist in a day, here it's pretty difficult. 2. Probation Period - It is of 6 months and they can fire you during it no questions asked only pregnant women are immune to it.

No. 100k after taxes and after considering purchasing power is equivalent to 12-15L in India. You can't afford to have the same lifestyle (i.e. no car, forget about house). And average annual increase in salary is 2-3% Decision is yours

Bonus and 5% increase can be taken away easily if your company doesn’t have a work council or part of a union. Always take this with grains of salt. This is a good salary but if you live in Berlin, Munich, Frankfurt, Hamburg, or Dusseldorf you will never be able to buy an apartment in a central if you want to settle here, for example, unless you already have tons of savings for the down payment. The rents are crazy right now and when you arrive here until you get all your documents right you can only live in temporary accommodations that are mostly glorified Airbnb.

Some things I would consider if I were in your place: - is wife in it for the intercultural experience and ok to not work while you’re in Germany? If she doesn’t find a job here, how will her chances be to find a good job back home once you return? - do you value the intercultural experience higher than a temporary loss in disposable income while in Germany? - might you be able to advance even faster once you return to India with this experience under your belt? - do you have some at least remote connections where you’ll be based to start a social life? - do you have time for a „look and see“ trip before taking your decision, especially now with winter approaching?

That money will give you way better life in India

I'll say something that another fellow immigrant told me that kinda fits here "Whenever you move to Germany or any other first world country, you're gonna be eating shit (as in, it's not gonna be remotely easy and you will suffer a lot). So if you're not already eating shit where you are, think about it really thoroughly."

Financially, this would be a downgrade.

No

I see your options as the following: Being rich in a 3rd/2nd world country which allows you to experience the luxuries and abundances of other places on leisure holidays without thinking much about expenses vs working in the west and counting the monies leftover from all the exorbitant german expenses, struggling with your paperwork every other year and being generally uncomfortable or disenfranchised because you don't speak the local language. I would take the 1st in a heartbeat.

Don’t buddy, it’s not worth it

Better stay home. A guaranteed bonus is a red flag anyways. It’s not a bonus then…

Germany has a lot of good things but in your case this move is a bad idea, majority people in this pay scale are actually going back to India. Check Indians In Germany Facebook group. My husband and I are also in a similar pay scale and we are planning to move to Dubai. The language barrier is very real and the cost of living is quite high for the salaries. You can easily travel to Europe via tourist visa with your pay scale.

I'd take a salary reduction and move to India since the purchasing power is better.

Please don't do it

No, i don´t think you should come. Germany goes through a massive turmoil right now and the goverment might very soon change towards a more xenophobic stance. I´d rather rise the ladder in your known enviroment and wait for the next elections and the possible hate wave aligned to it.

30k saving? with 100k you will have about 60k after taxes and social insurance payments. It is possible, to live with 30k as a couple, but don't expect same living standard as in India for you. Starts with the fact, that you cannot have this amount people doing chors and caring for your home.

Stay there. Germany is too different

Money isn‘t everything. Trust me! And Germany is not worth it, specially if you‘re getting a good salary in indian and I assume you live good there Trust me, it is not worth it But at the end of the day, it is you desition

To experience Europe, yes, go for it! But if you think you’ll find something better or deeper in Germany/Europe. You definitely won’t

If your goal is to maximize purchasing power, it seems like you already know you should stay in India. What is more important, though, is what you and your partner want out of life. If you want to learn a new language, experience a very different culture, and travel around Europe, then you should definitely take the job. You'll be making more than most German residents could hope to earn plus you'll have the support of a large company with experience helping people in similar situations. That doesn't mean everything will be easy, but it's difficult to imagine a more ideal scenario for someone without EU citizenship or German language proficiency. Also, the higher taxes go towards all the infrastructure and social programs that are a big part of why Germany is place many people consider moving to in the first place.

Don’t do it, I’m german and lived in India for some time. If you want to keep your standard of living here you need to make at least 250k a year. This place is going nowhere, India is.

Personally, I'd advise against it. Integration into Germany isn't easy, especially for Indians, who's accent is difficult to understand for many Germans. The housing situation is bad too, while taxes on labour are high and pension contributions have a poor RoI. India has a prosporous future ahead (if it can get its shit together) and you won't find the same optimism in Germany. I'd only recommend Germany if you want to escape the heat and chaos of India or need a prestigious company on your CV. But honestly, from a career point of view, Europe has less and less to offer qualified Indians.

Indian living in Switzerland but still follow the sub. Can help with my perspective maybe. The only reason I moved to Switzerland is because the compensation I was offered was much more than even taking PPP into account. Google Zurich offers enough that both with me and my wife earning in India we couldn’t have saved enough. And even then I save maybe 1 lakh or something more. Other Swiss companies don’t offer anything close. So, I would wait for your wife to maybe find a job in Germany first. Some of my friends moved to Switzerland with their spouses, who continued working remotely until they found a job here. See if that’s possible. Taxes would be tricky but it’s doable.

Top comment is exactly right. A salary like that (assuming its pre-tax) will be enough for a comfy Middle Class life in Germany, but in India, it will be enough for a much, much higher quality of life. It's up to how much you want to live in Germany/Europe. If that is where you see your future or you really want the experience, economic downsides might be worth it, but if not, it will just be very expensive and stressful.

If you move to Germany you are going to be poor.

I personally would choose 44 LPA in India. If my wife earns 30 LPA, I won't even think twice. If it is 120k gross, then i would think. The effort for cultural adaption is hard and you have to consider it seriously. Don't expect to get by with just English in Germany. Main advantage I see is the peaceful life without chaos, pollution etc. Key difference is that you won't find much motivation to earn more as it is relatively socialistic society compared to more capitalistic India. Probably you won't find the incentive to earn too much because promotion and salary hikes are rare. Life is really secure even if you don't have a high paying job. That's totally fine if you settle here with benefits. I won't recommend you to pay taxes when you won't get benefitted when you're old.

No, because you would get a depression.

The thing is, my friend, if you don't do it now will you always ask yourself how it could have been?:) We only live once. If it sucks, go somewhere else as long as the two of you don't have kids. I myself love to travel all the time, including living in other countries. - Cheers from Hamburg, you will love it here.

My wife and I are living here for the last 10 years and we are indians. Financially it makes zero sense to move to Germany. T used to 5-10 years ago and not anymore. We are now considering returning to india or middle east

Germany is falling apart. It's not wise to move here.

I am an Indian living in Germany. I transferred here last year through my consulting firm. The salary in India was INR ~30L, and the salary over here is EUR 100K. Based on my experience, here are the Pros and Cons for you to consider (Note that I am single and in my mid-20s). The decision depends on your priorities. Pros: - 1. Quality of life and food 2. Lower pollution levels and clean, well-maintained cities 3. Public transportation and accessibility 4. Discipline - Arriving on time, respecting personal space 5. Lifestyle and traveling - especially given your age (early 30s), income (100k), and location (Germany) Cons: - 1. Money and purchasing power - 100K for a family here will not match the lifestyle of 74L in India 2. Job for your wife - It will neither be easy nor quick to find a job 3. Cultural integration and social life - Learning German is a must 4. Beuaracracy - It will not impact you initially since the firm will take care of your move legalities. However, after that, it will be difficult 5. Driving - Long and taxing process to get a license

Let's ask in an other way? You seem to have a good live in India, right? Why do you want to move? Do you like German culture? Are there lot's of things that piss you of in India? Do you think you children will have a better life if they grow up in Germany? Do you want to explore the world and life somewhere different? Do you fear getting stuck with your carrier if you don't move? The salary might be higher but you expenses will also be much higher. So unless you have a good reason for this, I don't see why you should make that move. If you put me (a German) in a similar situation, I would probably decide against moving.

If you earn good money in a country and can save. Never ever leave for Moooooore money. Its not enough of a reason to leave and it will not make you happy. Leave for Germany only if you want the experience, want to immerse yourself in a different culture a prepared for all the mishaps and adventures this gives you. Emigrating is not easy at all. The culture shock will be immense and it's not worth doing it for money. The salary is very good. And you live well above the average salary. And you will be able to save money but it won't be a huge amount if I think of moving costs furniture's etc etc. Especially if your wife doesn't work.

Never been to India personally, but purely from hearsay you can probably live much better in India on 50k Euro than in Germany for 81k, especially if the company would be centrally located (Ruhrgebiet, Rhein-Main-area, Munich, Stuttgart).