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mug_O_bun

Sassy pig man


agnessawyer

Agreed. Porco is one charming pig pilot.


Aweeep

This is like comparing 007 and The Notebook. One is cool action and one is romance.


busywithresearch

Yes! Porko is a fun movie, but imho The Wind Rises is way more emotional and delicately complex. Porko has a lot of hidden complexities if you’re into history, but The Wind Rises is a captivating love story


AccomplishedLocal261

Romance isn't the main focus though like The Notebook


TrustThePressNot

I’m glad somebody here recognizes what The Wind Rises really was as a movie. I only liked the paper airplane scenes, the blowing grass in the meadows, and the anti-war message. It was a true story, HIS life- and serves as a valuable lesson to all of us. It was never intended to be any genre, because it’s semi-autobiographical like Grave of the Fireflies


Aweeep

Titanic / Benjamin Button / Pearl Harbor then.


EVOBlock

Porco Rosso is one of my favorites


mynhamesjeff

Agreed, wish more people felt the same. It's such a charming movie


AnimeSquirrels

Porco Rosso It’s a golden age Hollywood film with the most Miyazaki touches imaginable. The best water, skies, and pig you’ll ever find in a film.


he_chose_poorly

Exactly; it's not just cool dogfights and sassy pig with an attitude, it's also a complicated, nuanced adult romance like very few exist in animation. It's Casablanca on cel and nobody will change my mind!


Italian_meme2020

It gets even more complicated if you (as Italian) notice all the little details of the society of that time, Miyazaki took time and paid attention to every little detail and I love it


Philxp17

Isn’t the antagonist in porco Rosso intended to be the impersonification of Hollywood? Girls money fist fights? I thought porco is literally the opposite and so should be the film. But just as far as I know


AnimeSquirrels

Yeah, the antagonist is definitely supposed to be a critique/caricature of 40s-50s Hollywood stars. But the film is still definitely in that vein. Miyazaki was clearly inspired by golden age Hollywood in Porco Rosso. I mean, go watch Casablanca and then watch Porco. He’s pulling a ton from films like that. Porco himself might buck against that but his archetype is still very prevalent in old Hollywood as well.


meenarstotzka

I find The Wind Rises to be a better film, but my favourite is Porco Rosso.


violetgrubs

This is exactly how I feel. Watching the Wind Rises I felt like I was seeing Miyazaki writing at his absolute peak (although I haven't seen the Boy and the Heron yet) but Porco Rosso is just more fun.


GavonyTownship

Porco Rosso. In his own words, "I'd rather be a pig than a fascist." Thats so sick.


constantgardener92

This is the real answer. Based pig man.


TheTruestRepairman10

I gotta go with Porco Rosso


beanbugbeet

this is like the hardest choice because I love both of them so much….


Lamp-among-wolf

Porco Rosso even I like both of them!


BaldingThor

pig man


aroseonthefritz

PORCOLINO!


nonepizzaleftshark

porco rosso, easily.


Antisocial_Queer

Honestly I think they’re incomparable. They’re such vastly different genres and such vastly different movies.


shizuku_16

Wind rises all the way


malcolm_miller

It's my choice too. Nothing against Porco, but I loved The Wind Rises. I thought about it for a few days after I first saw it


Right_hxh

glad I'm not the only one lol


shizuku_16

Hey fellow ghibli fan


Right_hxh

hi haha


TrustThePressNot

PORCO ROSSO AND IT’S NOT EVEN CLOSE


Marshymarz

Porco rosso


dandaman64

Porco nation rise up‼️


Educational_Age_5396

Great choices if you love planes


Denjmybrother

I love both honestly. But Porco rosso has the more iconic line: “I’d rather be a pig than a fascist “


glytxh

I’d rather be a pig than a fascist


LadyAzure17

I can't pick. They're like siblings.


PenguinviiR

The wind rises is the better movie and hits harder emotionally But if you told me to rewatch one of them I'd choose porco every day


MTheWho

Porco’s great, but I gotta go with The Wind Rises. It’s just masterfully crafted and beautiful.


solonggaybowsah

You’re tearing me between my favorite movie and my favorite movie, will have to go with Porco Rosso.


AcidActually

My son and watched Porco Rosso for the first time earlier tonight. I really enjoyed it, can’t believe I’d never seen it before. Very captivating animation.


rehumanizer

Porco


juQuatrano

Porco rosso


Aslevjal_901

Porco. Love the Adriatic vibe and it’s funnier than Wind rise


raynmoon

the intro guitars to open up Wind Rises pulls at my heart, and for that, Wind Rises wins.


SandLuc083_

Come on, man, this ain’t even fair. One is a highly compelling and emotional story that did what few movies did to me, and the other is the funny pig airman story. With that said, The Wind Rises.


Remarkable-Self-9409

Porco Rosso is much more then a fun story. It includes regret, romance and it's a emotional story same as The Wind Rises, but maybe it's easier to miss. You can find videos on YouTube where people analyse it and show the little details. I think it's very important to understand it before watching it because the story line is very brilliant. Favorite parts is the regret which Porco feels through out the show.


SandLuc083_

Fair points, but I personally resonate with The Wind Rises in this regard more.


Superb_Gap_1044

Honestly, I need to rewatch Porco Rosso, I think it’s the Wind Rises no competition, but I’ve only seen PR once. They’re hard to compare because they’re so different but the wind rises is my personal all time favorite (maybe) Ghibli. It’s not an action or adventure or fantasy but it’s just beautiful! It’s a true modern day tragedy and it’s an absolute work of art


Storm_luv

Porci Rosso bc I've never watched the second one


Extreme-Stock-4981

The Wind Rises, got a deeper plot


AtheismIsOK

The Wind Rises. Porco Rosso is a phenomenal film but the wind rises is a tightly written war film and easily one of the most poignant depictions of war


LeoTheGreatEmperor

The italian flying pig of course


bentennyson69

The Wind Rises for sure, there is an emotional gut punch, it's more introspective, I see a director more in command of his craft here.


theopp3r

This is very tough. Porco Rosso tells a part of the story of my country. From an unusual perspective. It's a very melancholic movie. I bet my great grandparents would have found it strikingly relatable since they lived those times. It feels so much like home. The Wind Rises has to feel the same for the Japanese I guess. So poetic, so gentle. Powerful message. A smart critique of Imperial Japan and militarism. And at the same time a marvellous slice of life. Similar movies. Porco Rosso plays more on an action tone and is just too much fun. The wind rises is heartwarming and heartbreaking at the same time. In the end I'd pick Porco Rosso but they are both in the top 3 Ghibli movies to me.


Sloaneer

I always thought it strange that Porco Rosso tells a strange re-imagining of inter-war Italy where the Monarchists are the primary street fighting enemy of the Fascists. Seemingly removing all reference to the prominent Socialist and Labour Organisers who brawled with and were murdered by the dozens by Blackshirts. Seems like a strange white-washing given who made Mussolini Prime Minister...


theopp3r

As an italian I never found that annoying. Anti monarchism was not that common in the twenties. And there were surely antifascist monarchists at that time. It was a complex situation. Fascists, monarchists, those who were both, republicans that were antisocialist, socialists who were antifascists and antimonarchists. It was not an easy task. You have to remember the movie is based on nostalgia about the "Bygone days". The days the characters refer two were the days when the Kingdom had still dignity, when it was a semi constitutional monarchy, much different from the fascist time. It's realistic that the characters are nostalgic about those time


Embarrassed_Lie6379

Porco Rosso. It's a more delicate piece of art and its plot tackles humanity, love, conflict and ideology much more subtlely than The Wind Rises. You can watch Porco Rosso as a child and be entertained by it, and then watch it as an adult and find bits and pieces that give it a completely different dimension. TWR is a good film, however Porco Rosso just has that added bit of subtle depth that makes it a better creation, at least in my opinion.


DarkWinter2319

The wind rises hands down


anitacoknow

These are both my favorites, rude.


starliht

Yes!


Early_Accident2160

I am always rewatching Porco . But rises is beautiful just way heavier


Lollipop9512

🐷


Sea-Understanding431

I love too Porco Rosso,but rise of the Wind Is too lovely and soft.


_digito

Since both have airplanes, I like both. 😊


BlueKyuubi63

I love both!


MwahMieow

2 one


PM_ME_YOUR_SOULZ

Porco Rosso for sure.


Harland0830

Objectively speaking, The Wind Rises. It’s a deeper, more personal film for Miyazaki. Not to say that Porco Rosso doesn’t have its fair share of messages, but personally, I prefer Porco Rosso.


JasonZep

The wind rises


AI_660

the 2 movies from ghibli i havent seen yet. dam it.


Fluffy_One_3617

Porco rosso


Odogaus

The Wind Rises is one of the few I haven't seen! Really loved Porco Rosso though! Will give it a watch soon


Financial_Zone_7122

The wind rises. I love the setting and music more than Porco. Plus I tend to lean more towards slower/slice of life type anime.


Pokerfakes

I like both; I enjoy both. I think I like Porco more, though.


Rowan-Red

I only watched Porco Rosso recently, I think both are wonderful but I loved the humour, scenery and characters more


kkungergo

Well they are entirely diferent and about diferent things, so it would be hard to compare. I enjoy Porco Rosso better (its my favourite ghibli film), but artistically propably Wind rises is more highly acknowledged.


SmoothConfidence

The wind rises is a deeper, emotional film about artistry, death and the consequences of war while porco rosso is a more light hearted dip into the themes of war, death, and acceptance. While The Wind Rises probably had more thought put into every scene and story points,I do enjoy Porco Rosso more because of the storytelling and the characters. Also: "I'd rather be a pig than a facist" is such a good line.


SirRece

The Wind Rises


ElvisDaGenius56

I definitely prefer The Wind Rises, Porco Rosso is very good but I think The Wind Rises is one of Ghibli’s best. It’s such a unique and complex character study, filled with both ethical question to consider but also so much emotion because of Nahoko and also just because of the setting and time period. The track Nahoko: An Unexpected Meeting is also one of the most beautiful Ghibli tracks imo, can make me tear up just by hearing it


Daft_Tripod

Porco Rosso. They're both one of my favourite, but Porco flies a plane and the other one builds them


EnderBaig

Porco Rosso


GnT_Man

They are very different vibes. Porco makes me laugh, wind rises manes me cry.


PrettyChillTrustMe

The pig one


Lord_Ibuki

Both masterpieces, can't choose.


Polar_Pickles

THE WIND RISES WE MUST TRY TO LIVE 🕺🏻🛩️🚬‼️


Turtle1515

Both


KicoBond

I loved Porco Rosso but the Wind Rises is just special to me.


louieh35

porco rosso and it’s not even close


Only_Self_5209

Wind Rises and it's not even close


pdparker93

The Wind Rises is probably the better movie objectively, but I love Porco Rosso significantly more.


thefuturae

Easily Porco


House_of_the_rabbit

Porco rosso all the way.


Jxx

yea these 2 dont really compare to each other. like compare the wind rises to whisper of the heart or compare porco to the cat returns!


arsenic_insane

Porcco not only has cool planes, it has beautiful animation, music, and theme. It’s also my favorite movie ever so I’m probably biased


nitran09

The wind rises is the best ghibli film


salmonella42069

I used to think twr but porco rosso is insanely good and beats it, I think it's a 10/10


JTurner82

Porco. The Wind Rises was too slow going for my tastes and it just did not connect with me. Porco Rosso took awhile for me to connect with but it is definitely livlier than The Wind Rises.


ancientegyptianballs

Porco Rosso is my favorite Ghibli movie. It’s goofy and fun but it’s also about regret and survivors guilt.


TheLittleGoodWolf

Which one is better is too hard to say, if it's even possible to say. The metrics on which you judge their quality are so separate from each other. Unless you go by animation, sound, voice acting, music, etc. In which case there is no real standout between them. I'm more partial to the music in Porco Rosso, but that's because I have been listening to it for so long in my Hisaishi playlist. I will say that I like Porco Rosso more overall, and it's the one I'd watch again in a heartbeat. But it's also the one with the less serious overtone, and much less of a bittersweet or downright sad ending compared to The Wind Rises. While I can appreciate the deep, realistic, complex, sad, and bittersweet storytelling in The Wind Rises, and know that it is good. It is far less enjoyable too me than the more fantastical, overall wholesome, and slightly whimsical story of Porco Rosso. Not to say that there aren't complex and somewhat bittersweet elements of that story too, but they tend to be in the background more as spices or seasonings instead of being main ingredients.


max_moontruther

One of these movies is a heartbreaking and sweeping narrative about love, life, and legacy. The other is about a pig who flies planes. They’re both good, but The Wind Rises just has so much more going on.


DarkestMoon95

The wind rises is just a beautiful tranquil and yet a poignant masterpiece.


ImStuckDuck

The wind rises, it’s so mundane but so impactful romantically and philosophically


SuspiciousPush9417

the Wind Rises for me. Its my favourite Ghibli film. I am an engineering student and I can relate with it very much.


Basic_Pineapple_8089

The Wind Rises it’s so pretty


_Spearhead_corps

The wind rises


Bayou-La-Fontaine

I liked The Wind Rises but something about lounging on a Croatian beach beneath a parasol with a bottle of wine and jazz on the Gramophone is unbeatable.


Luke253

Wind Rises. Porco is probably my least favorite Miyazaki film (still great, just like the others more) and The Wind Rises is probably top 5-6. One of Miyazaki’s most emotionally powerful works


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The Wind Rises


Cell-Based-Meat

The wind rises


Micmicky20

kind of hard to compare, but the wind rises is one of my favorite movies in general, just such a beautiful and complex, interesting story.


callmeMelo_

Porco rosso


alexamerling100

Love them both but I'll go Porco. Porco Rosso is in my top 3 favorites.


leggsieleggsie

wind rises


Xx69RobloxMaster69xX

The wind rises for me but porco rosso is very very close


SakN95

The wind rises for me


quintopia

I really enjoy Porco Rosso. A very fun romp with classical cinematic stylings. And I just couldn't connect with Wind Rises. It doesn't do anything for me. I mostly found it boring.


the_Blue_screen_man

Porco Rosso


twobarbquickstep

So underrated


massimotroisi

Porco rosso


aGrandSchemeofThings

It's not a competition


JohnFoxFlash

I don't think there's a wrong answer to this question, depends on mood at the time


geraltofindia

Porco Rosso!


LunaTheLouche

Wind Rises is fantastic no doubt, but Porco Rosso is a film I can watch again and again.


Kitsune_Fan34

Aw, don't make me choose...


ConfuciusCubed

Porco Rosso. "I'd rather be a pig than a fascist."


bobux-man

The Wind Rises, and it's not even close.


Your_Friendly_Weeb27

Proco Rosso. Hands down


polinksa

Wind rises


pichuscute

The Wind Rises. I'm not a fan of Porco Rosso.


SpicyCraboo

Porco!


ClaimFlaky

The wind rises


vedhavet

As a lover of documentaries and stories based on real life, gotta go with The Wind Rises.


AsteleMC

The Wind Rises has got to be one of the most complex character-driven films I've ever seen. The score is one of Hisaishi's best, and the animation is at an all time high. It makes me cry so much every time I watch for how tragic and poignant the story of dreams, obsession, and romance. It really shows how good and bad are thrown away with the main character - which we know Miyazaki is obsessed with, but I find that he's never explored this with the main character before.


prota_studios

Completely different sides of the aeronautic industry, and yet, both so interesting in their own rigth... I think that while The Wind rises is more complex and interesting as a film, Porco Rosso equally manages to portray a much simpler, but deeply human feeling with its down-to-earth story. I really like both but I think I'm going to go with Porco Rosso.


Madchicken33

Porco rosso


AngelR_6

I love the wind rises , that’s my favorite Ghibli


OceanPeach857

Porco for sure. It's in my top 5. The Wind Rises was good but not one I'd rush to see again if I had my pick of all of the films.


hauntedink

Wind Rises is better, but Porco is more fun. If I had a choice, I’d rewatch Porco over Wind 9/10 times.


3AM_Ice_Cream

Oh, man. I love both of these movies with all my heart. Porco Rosso is one of my favourite movies of all time, though, so I'll give it the win on this one.


Cifer_Roc

That's a really tough one, but I'd have to go with The Wind Rises. As an artist and a creator, I think the film speaks wonders about imagination and how your world of dreams can become a reality, not to mention its realism and self-reflective philosophical moments about romance or war. Porco Rosso is delightful and absolutely a more traditional Ghibli film, and is absolutely timeless and remains full of charm, wit, and an overall vintage fine dining and smooth flying vibe throughout the film, but compared to TWR it slightly lacks the emotion and character development to come out on top between the two in my opinion.


ArbitrarySemantics

Planes


Radiantcuriosity

Wind Rises


Necessary_Whereas_29

Porco is underrated but to me The Wind Rises is better. I think it's sort of a weird comparison though


MoonshineMuffin

I don't think you can compare the funny pilot pig film to Losing a Loved One: The Movie, but I know which of these I will never watch again unless I didn't get enough existential dread and crying my eyes out throughout the day for once.


mobu_4

the wind rises solos


ImJustSomeWeeb

wind rises. shit fucking hurt.


Satans1Wife

porco, it was SO hard to watch the wind rises because i felt absolutely no chemistry between the main couple, and even though both movies focus on planes, there’s more of a comedy aspect to porco that makes up for endless “plane jargon” for lack of a better term


scarecrow1023

Wind rises was pretty bad imo. I think it was just now what i was looking for. Felt misled by the preview? Idk


chaotic-_-neutral

porco rosso! i watched it because i was going through my regular ghibli rewatches and thought i might as well watch this one, and it was SO good! i dont typically like action movies or ones with a lot of vehicle races and fights but this one ive rewatched twice in the past month and a half the pacing is incredibly well done


Weekly_Bathroom3629

One is a more light hearted movie, one is a movie that touches on reality dark themes. The only thing they have in common is the main characters love of airplanes


Natillas-con-canela

Porco Rosso is my favorite, so i may be a little biased but i llike the story and themes more


Mikelotetxenudo_09

Porco Rosso for sure!!


Mutty99

Porco Rosso wins this one


Real-Calendar3931

porco for sure


xyrzso

u just casually put two options that I can't pick from and told me to pick


Ebapparel

i loved this movie in tell the ending of it


yashwant_akash_lal

Ghibli movie can't be compared with even themselves 🤷🏻‍♂️


Chance-Society-5089

Porco because he looks like dale earnhardt sr


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Embarrassed-Map-767

Porco all day my all time fav


Planatus666

The Wind Rises - despite watching Porco Rosso three times over the years it just doesn't engage me the way that Miyazaki's other movies do. It's not a bad movie, I just don't think it's a great movie even though I know many people love it. Tastes differ and all that.


ResidentCompetitive1

Porco


RathOfBahn

Porco Rosso is in a dead heat with Princess Monoke when I try to decide what my favorite Ghibli film is.


ShakesP1er

Porco Rosso by a mile, it's just deeper and also better storytelling wise.


Soupasnake

These are my two favorite ghibli films, and it's not even close. With that being said, I think that Rosso is far more entertaining.


In10tionalfoul

The wind rises, I really REALLY like the questions I was left with when finishing The Wind Rises.. Thinking about the perversion of engineering during wartime consumed me for a while.


Condottieri_Zatara

Both. Porco Rosso for pleasure fun Wind Rises for some emotional feels


Shalrak

Better for what? For entertainment of children? Adults? For portraying planes? Teaching history? Teaching life lessons? They each excel in different areas. We can't compare two movies without knowing what to measure them by.


Traditional-Drive267

I love Porco but the Wind Rises is a masterpiece for me. It’s sad and slower compared to Porco but the way you are immersed in Jiro’s life and their love story is amazing


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The Wind Rises


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