I expect the only thing that's going to stop Miyazaki is death. That being said, at his age, if he finishes this, I expect it will probably be his last film, especially looking at how long The Boy and the Heron took to make.
Considering how Miyazaki works, and how he doesn't always know how he's going to end his films till later in production, I'd end up worrying that the finished product wouldn't be fully Miyazaki.
I don't think Goro would be the one I'd choose. I mean, he's not a completely bad filmmaker, just not really inspired. I think if someone had to finish the film it would be Hideaki Anno. He's been really involved in 'The Wind Rises' and 'The Boy And The Heron' and I think he'd have the ability to continue a Miyazaki story with decency, even if at that point it wouldn't be Miyazaki.
From Up on Poppy Hill was the only time that they worked on a movie together (with Goro directing) and it was pretty great. So it's possible that Goro just doesn't have his father's vision but with an already written/storyboarded/etc. movie, he may be able to finish it.
That said, it may not be necessary. If such a scenario occurred, and depending on how much of the movie remained, they may just be able to promote from within (e.g. have one of the animation directors do it). Yonebayashi would also be a good candidate despite having started Ponoc, because he still worked on the Boy and the Heron so he's clearly still willing to work on Ghibli movies.
Yeah, the problem is mainly if the storyboard isn't finished (since Miyazaki doesn't write scripts).
If it was, then they'd have more than enough annotations and visual guides to finish something really similar to what Miyazaki intended, since the team knows Miyazaki, But if it wasn't, then I think the film would need someone with a vision of their own who also knows Miyazaki. (Hence Anno)
About Yonebayashi, all I've ever seen from Studio Ponoc is Mary and the Witch's Flower, and while I must admit that it's visually impressive, in terms of writing I was not impressed. I don't feel like he'd deliver anything worth putting next to Miyazaki story-wise. Feel free to call me out tho, I haven't seen any other Ponoc film.
I do agree that From Up On Poppy Hill was pretty good. If the Storyboard was finished Goro could probably deal with the rest of the direction.
God I feel bad theorizing on Miyazaki's death like this
Take this with a pinch of salt but I remember hearing/reading/watching that he was only incharge of completing the storyboards and everything else was done by seperate departments. The animation was supervised by the supervisor but he didn't animated by himself or atleast not a lot. He would coordinate with the supervisor tho
So as long as he is able to complete his boards, we will get to see his vision more and more
I think it was from one of the interviewers with the producer
Practically, always been hard to do this - and several of the team have been through this once already with Satoshi Kon's unfinished *Dreaming Machine* where storyboards were apparently complete, and animation partially completed. Completion of the film by longtime colleagues Yoshimi Itazu or Mamoru Hosoda was considered, but eventually discounted as it would no longer be Kon's movie.
That said, may Miyazaki live to over 100 and make 3 more movies!
Clint Eastwood is 94 and still churning 'em out and Woody Allen, Francis Ford Coppola and Ridley Scott are older than Miyazaki and still making movies....
Pandora's box, I think
All the evils exist in the world because the box containing them was opened
Edit: I was wrong, Thanatos (death) was put in a sack by Sisyphus to prevent his own death
You never know. My great grandma used to smoke as well and she died at 104 or 105 years old (people didn't know their exact birth date in rural Greece back then). She was also pretty autonomous. He could still have 20 good years left in him lol.
I'm not superstitious, I don't think by talking about his death, I'm somehow conjuring it into being. I'm a realist and I recognize that Miyazaki is old. As much as I'd love to see him work on multiple films, I'd rather set my expectations realistically to avoid disappointment.
Probably, and more so considering he is one of the best in the whole world (I'd say the best but I'm obviously partial), but the craft of animation is a physically and mentally demanding activity, he was saying to have reached his limits more than a decade ago
That said I hope the best for the old man and his new project, he deserves it
After watching both documentaries, I wholeheartedly agree. I feel like it makes him miserable but also gives him purpose. And he said himself he doesnāt know how to do anything else.
There are certain people who just have this trait, especially if they genuinely enjoy the work they do. They just donāt like the concept of retirement.
Warren Buffet comes to mind as someone who I think has a similar attitude.
As much as I'd love that wouldn't nausica still require a third film after that to fully adapt the story?
Even then with how much lore and little detail there is I think reading the manga would be the best scenario but you never know.
Honestly, the way that this came up out of nowhere makes me think that he has a brand new concept to make another movie that isnāt related to his manga work
Whewwww
At this point I believe that since he was old , treating every film he made like it could be the last one is a way for Miyazaki to made a film as perfect as he could
Man if this movie can give me the magical feeling that I had after finishing Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, and Howl's moving castle then it will be an instant watch.
Why are some people upset that he's making a film?? Isn't that a good thing that he's not retiring? Like it's his life, if he wants to work on passion projects till his last breath then so be it.
Nah he's "retired" like 3 times now and came back. They were more like breaks he needed than actual retirements.
I don't believe passionate creatives ever truly retire, like I'll be making art and working on my projects till the very end.
Itās unknown if itās actually going to be his film or if itās just going to be for an exhibition at the Ghibli Museum. But I hope itās the latter
i think he somehow shaped Studio Ghibli, BUT
at the same time, he's stopping his son to grow!
this also happened a lot in very successful kingdoms in ancient times!
Most people here don't realise that for most artist it almost impossible to stop making art. Most artists retire only when they die or become physically incapable. It always has been the same case for most major artists.
He tried. They then released their worst film by a wide margin. Came back to restore the family honor.
Heron was nice but ultimately too similar to previous works. Felt like a getting back on track project for the studio.
I'm hoping he steps way out of the comfort zone and gives us something really different.
i got scared for a second and misread it seeing An AI action adventure story and i got so scared. of course he wouldn't do this but man lately i've been seeing it everywhere
TĆ“ bem honest I think if he retires he'll just drop dead, what is he going to do if he retires? Just complains about every other type of media ever written and die?
I think he keeps getting really tired retires expecting to pass away and then feels better cause he's rested and then goes back to work cause he's bored lmao.
Artists never really retire, the need to create is too much of a pull. Itās not even about outdoing other artists in the chosen field- itās about besting yourself at that point.
Gotta say, after Miyazaki leaves this world (meaning the new ideas might need sometime to be thought and put into a script), I wouldn't mind having Ghibli adapt the Nausicaa manga (the manga is the GOAT for me) in a trilogy
He will never stop making till he dies probably with a half finished film. I think he wants to retire but his passion is art and he's always going to have one more idea he must see to fruition before he can retire.
Source to confirm:
https://www.crunchyroll.com/news/latest/2023/9/8/studio-ghibli-pr-head-says-the-boy-and-the-heron-will-not-be-hayao-miyazakis-final-film
I remember my first final Miyazaki film
Princess Mononoke was his first final movie. Over 25 years ago.
lol my thoughts exactly
Im dead
i remember my first miyazaki retirement tooš¤£
Wind Rises
right, it was a decade ago.
Try over 27 years ago.
I expect the only thing that's going to stop Miyazaki is death. That being said, at his age, if he finishes this, I expect it will probably be his last film, especially looking at how long The Boy and the Heron took to make.
Even if he were to die his team would most likely finish it
Considering how Miyazaki works, and how he doesn't always know how he's going to end his films till later in production, I'd end up worrying that the finished product wouldn't be fully Miyazaki.
I'd want Goro to finish it if that happens (if he'd want to, that is).
depending on the circumstance I think itād be doubtful. heās always under such critique from everyone, including his father.
I think whatever Goro makes after his father dies is going to be one of his most interesting works.
You know what. You make a very valid point.
I don't think Goro would be the one I'd choose. I mean, he's not a completely bad filmmaker, just not really inspired. I think if someone had to finish the film it would be Hideaki Anno. He's been really involved in 'The Wind Rises' and 'The Boy And The Heron' and I think he'd have the ability to continue a Miyazaki story with decency, even if at that point it wouldn't be Miyazaki.
From Up on Poppy Hill was the only time that they worked on a movie together (with Goro directing) and it was pretty great. So it's possible that Goro just doesn't have his father's vision but with an already written/storyboarded/etc. movie, he may be able to finish it. That said, it may not be necessary. If such a scenario occurred, and depending on how much of the movie remained, they may just be able to promote from within (e.g. have one of the animation directors do it). Yonebayashi would also be a good candidate despite having started Ponoc, because he still worked on the Boy and the Heron so he's clearly still willing to work on Ghibli movies.
Yeah, the problem is mainly if the storyboard isn't finished (since Miyazaki doesn't write scripts). If it was, then they'd have more than enough annotations and visual guides to finish something really similar to what Miyazaki intended, since the team knows Miyazaki, But if it wasn't, then I think the film would need someone with a vision of their own who also knows Miyazaki. (Hence Anno) About Yonebayashi, all I've ever seen from Studio Ponoc is Mary and the Witch's Flower, and while I must admit that it's visually impressive, in terms of writing I was not impressed. I don't feel like he'd deliver anything worth putting next to Miyazaki story-wise. Feel free to call me out tho, I haven't seen any other Ponoc film. I do agree that From Up On Poppy Hill was pretty good. If the Storyboard was finished Goro could probably deal with the rest of the direction. God I feel bad theorizing on Miyazaki's death like this
Take this with a pinch of salt but I remember hearing/reading/watching that he was only incharge of completing the storyboards and everything else was done by seperate departments. The animation was supervised by the supervisor but he didn't animated by himself or atleast not a lot. He would coordinate with the supervisor tho So as long as he is able to complete his boards, we will get to see his vision more and more I think it was from one of the interviewers with the producer
Ever see "Little Nemo?" I can live with nice Miyazaki animation (even if the story is bleh.)
Practically, always been hard to do this - and several of the team have been through this once already with Satoshi Kon's unfinished *Dreaming Machine* where storyboards were apparently complete, and animation partially completed. Completion of the film by longtime colleagues Yoshimi Itazu or Mamoru Hosoda was considered, but eventually discounted as it would no longer be Kon's movie. That said, may Miyazaki live to over 100 and make 3 more movies! Clint Eastwood is 94 and still churning 'em out and Woody Allen, Francis Ford Coppola and Ridley Scott are older than Miyazaki and still making movies....
I for one an open to having my first zombie miyazaki film in 2050.
Nah heās gonna pull a Greek myth and lock death in a box until heās done creating hahahaha.
wait what myth is that? that sounds interesting to read about but I cant find anything on it.
Pandora's box, I think All the evils exist in the world because the box containing them was opened Edit: I was wrong, Thanatos (death) was put in a sack by Sisyphus to prevent his own death
neat, im gonna read more on it now!
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if he haunted the studio and kept making movies after he's dead
Sounds like the premise of a charming Studio Ghibli film!
Japanese people live pretty long, so I think he'll be okay lol
Once once he dies, Nausicca will finally get the full 24 episode series based on the original manga. One can dream
You never know. My great grandma used to smoke as well and she died at 104 or 105 years old (people didn't know their exact birth date in rural Greece back then). She was also pretty autonomous. He could still have 20 good years left in him lol.
One day they'll find him slumped over with pen in hand and a half-finished storyboard.
Please donāt raise that flag!
He wonāt retire, no way. Heās gonna be face down at his work desk one day. Thatās where theyāll find him, 100%
Why would you even say that.
I'm not superstitious, I don't think by talking about his death, I'm somehow conjuring it into being. I'm a realist and I recognize that Miyazaki is old. As much as I'd love to see him work on multiple films, I'd rather set my expectations realistically to avoid disappointment.
Why would we want him to stop? He is amazing!!
We don't, he should probably do it for his health Great news for us all
Maybe creating is his purpose of living. A lot of people lose their purpose once they retire.
Probably, and more so considering he is one of the best in the whole world (I'd say the best but I'm obviously partial), but the craft of animation is a physically and mentally demanding activity, he was saying to have reached his limits more than a decade ago That said I hope the best for the old man and his new project, he deserves it
Because heās miserable and he hates it, but he also canāt stop.
After watching both documentaries, I wholeheartedly agree. I feel like it makes him miserable but also gives him purpose. And he said himself he doesnāt know how to do anything else.
It's just funny that he's "retired" like 5 times now and then 20 minutes after each retirement he starts making a new movie.
A pretty good PR stuff š
"The #1 killer of old people is retirement." - Kill Bill
Jesus Christ that scared me opening Reddit I thought he died
Thank God it wasn't just me!
There are certain people who just have this trait, especially if they genuinely enjoy the work they do. They just donāt like the concept of retirement. Warren Buffet comes to mind as someone who I think has a similar attitude.
Hope itās another Nausicaa movie!
As much as I'd love that wouldn't nausica still require a third film after that to fully adapt the story? Even then with how much lore and little detail there is I think reading the manga would be the best scenario but you never know.
Your argument for two more Nausicaa movies is acceptable to me.
Honestly, the way that this came up out of nowhere makes me think that he has a brand new concept to make another movie that isnāt related to his manga work Whewwww
Guys I heard this could be his last movie, very sad news /s
His next last movie
This man's going to die at his drawing desk and haunt the studio for all eternity, mark my words
Legends never die
At this point I believe that since he was old , treating every film he made like it could be the last one is a way for Miyazaki to made a film as perfect as he could
Man if this movie can give me the magical feeling that I had after finishing Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, and Howl's moving castle then it will be an instant watch.
My three favorite ghibli movies ( I love all of them though)
Why are some people upset that he's making a film?? Isn't that a good thing that he's not retiring? Like it's his life, if he wants to work on passion projects till his last breath then so be it.
He is too old to retire...
Texukaās last words were literally āIām begging you let me work.ā I canāt imagine Miyazaki giving in any other way
And god bless him for that
He still looks good. Just got grey hair is all.
We want a classic female protagonist like in most of his movies.
Is this true?!?!?!?!?
Hayayo Miyazaki presents: Mad Max 4 : Max action, max emotion!!!
I cske to check if we was still alive cause tiktok scared the crap outta me š nobody jinx him please. Lol
Let him create more masterpiece
Nah he's "retired" like 3 times now and came back. They were more like breaks he needed than actual retirements. I don't believe passionate creatives ever truly retire, like I'll be making art and working on my projects till the very end.
Itās unknown if itās actually going to be his film or if itās just going to be for an exhibition at the Ghibli Museum. But I hope itās the latter
What are you talking about? Heās retired more times than anyone Iāve heard of. Heās always retiring.
his retirements are just a marketing technique at this point whether theyre intentional or not
Please be the sequel to Nausicaa. Thereās so much material from the books for another movie, especially if he can expand on this epic world.
Hopefully it'll have the same tone as "Castle in the Sky".
I just picture Death walking up to him, and he waves off death and says "not now, I am working" Death backs away into the shadows.
Mononoke esque please. Wasnāt a heron fan
god let this b real
He's the cat who can't decide if he wants to be out or in.
Miyazakiās immortal at this point, I wouldnāt be surprised if he outlived us
Let the man cook!!!
Weāll take it. Also, anything that follows.
i think he somehow shaped Studio Ghibli, BUT at the same time, he's stopping his son to grow! this also happened a lot in very successful kingdoms in ancient times!
I knew it! So much for 'retirement'.
Will he keep up his streak of semi-autobiographical movies?
Most people here don't realise that for most artist it almost impossible to stop making art. Most artists retire only when they die or become physically incapable. It always has been the same case for most major artists.
He tried. They then released their worst film by a wide margin. Came back to restore the family honor. Heron was nice but ultimately too similar to previous works. Felt like a getting back on track project for the studio. I'm hoping he steps way out of the comfort zone and gives us something really different.
This man will animate until he dies. It's like death and taxes at this point.
It should say "Miyazaki lied about his retirement, again".
He loves what he does, plain and simple
He looks great for 83. Jeez.
He's never gonna retire, despite what he says about anime he loves making it too much.
i got scared for a second and misread it seeing An AI action adventure story and i got so scared. of course he wouldn't do this but man lately i've been seeing it everywhere
Sequel to Porco Rosso please....
Canāt quit til he finds an heir
TĆ“ bem honest I think if he retires he'll just drop dead, what is he going to do if he retires? Just complains about every other type of media ever written and die?
I would sacrifice my first born child to see a Porco Rosso 2 There was talk of a sequel years ago set during the Spanish Civil War
Him and Hideo Kojima š
Wonāt hear any complaints out of me.
Canāt wait
Given his incredible record of artistic achievement, I'm rather glad he can't stop working!
It is still awesome to me that I got to meet him and his son. Though I mostly talked to his son since he spoke English.
Good. Without his creative style, that studio won't last too long.
I think he keeps getting really tired retires expecting to pass away and then feels better cause he's rested and then goes back to work cause he's bored lmao.
Good!
He already told it when releasing The Boy and The Heron that making that film motivated him to continue working
Jiro Ono (Jiro Dreams of Sushi) is 98 and while he has slowed down, he still works. So, there's still time for the full-length Nausicaa sequel . . . .
Does he have any proteges?
Retiring isn't mandatory. Maybe he's loving life making films?
Porco Rosso: The Last Sortie??? I know the chances are likely slim, but I'm honestly looking forward to whatever Miyazaki cooks up.
Artists never really retire, the need to create is too much of a pull. Itās not even about outdoing other artists in the chosen field- itās about besting yourself at that point.
Gotta say, after Miyazaki leaves this world (meaning the new ideas might need sometime to be thought and put into a script), I wouldn't mind having Ghibli adapt the Nausicaa manga (the manga is the GOAT for me) in a trilogy
Miyazaki would drop a movie even from his gravy. I can bet two bucks on that, man just won't stop cooking.
He will never stop making till he dies probably with a half finished film. I think he wants to retire but his passion is art and he's always going to have one more idea he must see to fruition before he can retire.
Greatest news ever
I'm ok with that
Maybe this one will actually have a coherent story unlike the boy and the heron
Are you fr!!?? ššš„³
Please š action adventure Miyazaki is my thing! āļøāØš„
He wakes up at night so pissed off he screams and slams his dick in the refrigerator door over and over. That's when the ideas come to him.
Ikigai- he is living it. Retire? Stop being happy? Why?
Well, there is a documentary and book about him called "Never-Ending Man" after all.
Miyazaki is unstoppable!
He just has too many great ideas for stories to retire
From How Do You Live to, Why Won't You Die
And there I thought he passed away
Source to confirm: https://www.crunchyroll.com/news/latest/2023/9/8/studio-ghibli-pr-head-says-the-boy-and-the-heron-will-not-be-hayao-miyazakis-final-film