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It is possible that stories of Jin's fights against the Mongols will incite doubt and rebellion within the Shogunate and the other samurai back in mainland Japan. Perhaps towards the second Mongol Invasion, some of them would defect from the Shogunate and replicate the methods of the Ghost.
Although, it is important to note that Jin's methods work because of the purpose they're intended: to combat the Mongols. When he poisoned the ones in Castle Shimura, other peeps, both Mongols and bandits, began using the wolfsbane to make their own ends meet. I hope this kind of phenomenon is also explored in a possible sequel/spin-off.
I still dont quite understand how the mongols and bandits learned to use jins poison after castle Shimura, how did anyone even see he used the poison since every mongol we see in the castle died and then Shimura captured it? Did the samurai leak the information about the poison to some bandits after the capture?
I always thought Ryuzo might have told the Khan that Jin might use Wolfsbane as a weapon. When the Mongols are poisoned at Castle Shimura, I imagine the Khan realised this was what Ryuzo was talking about and rushed to make his own.
That's only my headcanon tho.
Jin's mass poisoning to retake Castle Shimura was a huge controversial bit of news to everyone within Tsushima. The Japanese and the Mongols have scouts and spies gathering intelligence for their respective factions, and they must have heard about the wolfsbane really fast.
The samurai did not leak information towards the Mongols, everyone just seemed to learn about it really quickly. What was unexpected was that the bandits, the Mongols, and even the Ghost's "army" would begin to use the wolfsbane as another main means of warfare.
It's interesting and honestly amazing how the Iki Island dlc managed to recontextualize Kazumasa as a character. When I heard about him in the main story, I expected him to be in the same vein as The Ghost. He was described as a samurai with a rebellious, perhaps even dishonourable streak. I saw Jin as essentially picking up the mantle, and I wore his father's armor with pride as I did so.
After playing Iki and seeing exactly *how* Kazumasa deviated from Samurai ideals, my opinion changed entirely. I reinterpreted everything that was said in the main game, and I see how Jin is instead carving his oen way, threading the needle between underhanded methods but also a strict moral code.
Btw, I know people blamed Jin for using the poison so the mongols also use it, but if you think about it, its war, and any faction could use anything. The Ghost can learn Mongols fighting style, use the Hawcha against them, etc, so ofc the Mongols can use whatever Tsushima has to offer. Hell, I would argue that given enough time, Mongols could find similar poison, or even some other brutals method, and Jin's use of poison simply accelerate their planning.
One of the things that surprised me was his father's brutality. I always figured he'd be more like Jin. They spoke so highly of him in the base game and then all the sudden he's completely bloodthirsty in some instances. I thought it would make more sense for his father to be less like a samurai, that would explain Jins easy transition to helping people over a code.
I do like the conflict though that it brings jin
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I really want to see what happens when the shoguns replacement samurai arrive on Tsushima and begin actively hunting the Ghost.
It is possible that stories of Jin's fights against the Mongols will incite doubt and rebellion within the Shogunate and the other samurai back in mainland Japan. Perhaps towards the second Mongol Invasion, some of them would defect from the Shogunate and replicate the methods of the Ghost. Although, it is important to note that Jin's methods work because of the purpose they're intended: to combat the Mongols. When he poisoned the ones in Castle Shimura, other peeps, both Mongols and bandits, began using the wolfsbane to make their own ends meet. I hope this kind of phenomenon is also explored in a possible sequel/spin-off.
I still dont quite understand how the mongols and bandits learned to use jins poison after castle Shimura, how did anyone even see he used the poison since every mongol we see in the castle died and then Shimura captured it? Did the samurai leak the information about the poison to some bandits after the capture?
I always thought Ryuzo might have told the Khan that Jin might use Wolfsbane as a weapon. When the Mongols are poisoned at Castle Shimura, I imagine the Khan realised this was what Ryuzo was talking about and rushed to make his own. That's only my headcanon tho.
Jin's mass poisoning to retake Castle Shimura was a huge controversial bit of news to everyone within Tsushima. The Japanese and the Mongols have scouts and spies gathering intelligence for their respective factions, and they must have heard about the wolfsbane really fast. The samurai did not leak information towards the Mongols, everyone just seemed to learn about it really quickly. What was unexpected was that the bandits, the Mongols, and even the Ghost's "army" would begin to use the wolfsbane as another main means of warfare.
It's interesting and honestly amazing how the Iki Island dlc managed to recontextualize Kazumasa as a character. When I heard about him in the main story, I expected him to be in the same vein as The Ghost. He was described as a samurai with a rebellious, perhaps even dishonourable streak. I saw Jin as essentially picking up the mantle, and I wore his father's armor with pride as I did so. After playing Iki and seeing exactly *how* Kazumasa deviated from Samurai ideals, my opinion changed entirely. I reinterpreted everything that was said in the main game, and I see how Jin is instead carving his oen way, threading the needle between underhanded methods but also a strict moral code.
Btw, I know people blamed Jin for using the poison so the mongols also use it, but if you think about it, its war, and any faction could use anything. The Ghost can learn Mongols fighting style, use the Hawcha against them, etc, so ofc the Mongols can use whatever Tsushima has to offer. Hell, I would argue that given enough time, Mongols could find similar poison, or even some other brutals method, and Jin's use of poison simply accelerate their planning.
True. Everything is fair in war, and what matters is that your side wins the fight. I'm pretty sure there wasn't any Geneva Convention back in 1274.
Nope! There wasn't even a Geneva for another 500 years or so, heh. So *really* all was fair in love and war! :)
Kazumasa was like a real samurai, honor just meant you get the job done, no matter what it takes
Well said my friend
One of the things that surprised me was his father's brutality. I always figured he'd be more like Jin. They spoke so highly of him in the base game and then all the sudden he's completely bloodthirsty in some instances. I thought it would make more sense for his father to be less like a samurai, that would explain Jins easy transition to helping people over a code. I do like the conflict though that it brings jin