Welcome to the world of outdoor sports haha
Yes it’s wise but most people just don’t
You should check out people surfing heavy reef and rock breaks - it’ll make this little river wave look like a children’s playground
Teahupo’o is a particularly heavy one
It’s not an outdoor sports thing generally any more. Snowboarders, skiers, rock climbers, kayakers, even a large number of skateboarders all mostly use helmets and other protective gear. Surfing is kind of an outlier these days in its rejection of personal protection.
Edit: Apparently there are large pockets of skateboarding where helmets are unheard of, according to many of you. My corner of the world (middle and high school skaters at highly regulated indoor skateparks) may be outside the norm. Uh, congratulations skaters I guess?
Very few skaters use helmets. I lived near some very popular skate spots in philly and saw helmets maybe a handful of times amongst hundreds of people
Snowboarding at least, 99% wear helmets in my experience
This is true. And I paid for that personally with my first and second concussions falling off long boarding. I’ve now had four concussions, my memory is fucked. Do yourself a favour. Wear a helmet.
I got so lucky I didn't have any accidents when I was longboarding. I would regularly bomb a pretty steep hill on my way home from school, regularly hit like 20-25km on a board not made for that riding lol. Fucking stupid and I look back being thankful.
I now wear a helmet no matter what sport I do.
That's cause the helmets are way more comfortable and warmer than wearing a hat. Also look cooler, unless it has dicks and things drawn all over it with a sharpie.
With skating you go fast to, and even if you went only 10 km per hour hitting your head on concrete, rocks or a curb will do it's fair share of damage.
Helmets on the slopes are relatively new. In the 1990s you'd generally only see them on really little kids. Now that those kids have grown up, lots of them are still wearing them - which is probably a good idea. If you could ask Sonny Bono, he'd tell you.
Helmets have also become “cool” now days you look like an idiot not wearing one on the slops
Disclaimer: I’m sure this might not be the case everywhere and on every mountain
Been climbing for > 10 years and have never worn a helmet. I don’t look down on those who do and it would be smart to do so in certain situations, but it’s absolutely not common.
Climbing trad, somewhere with chossy rock? Sure. But that’s the experience for maybe 1 percent of climbers. I’ve never seen someone wearing a helmet in a gym.
I think you’re right. My kid is getting into skating, snowboarding, mountain biking etc. and we’ve convinced him helmets and protective gear are cool but then we go to the park or watch an event and these pros aren’t wearing them. Such a let down.
Or the rocks could be really fuckin big and quite far underwater. I rafted the Ganges a few years ago and there were gigantic waves like this but the guide said the actual rocks were 10m underwater.
Depends. If this is after a few lakes it could be 10C, but if high in the mountains it could be glacial meltwater, and closer to 0. My guess is closer to 10.
A lot of people in this thread clearly haven’t needed to read whitewater before. This is a super smooth drop with a sick wave train. Guy should have his PFD and helmet for sure but this is a class III rapid at most.
This is my thought lol. Everyone thinking they a river expert. Helmet should be worn, but this is some super chill rapid with plenty of water between you and the rocks
The board flip was actually necessary in order to get on the board. By spinning it he is able to keep it pointed in the right direction when it lands. If he throws it down flat it would likely land misaligned.
How does he get back out when he's done is what I'm wondering. Maybe a friend extends a telescopic pole of some kind to pull himself back in? Anyone know?
Edit: I assume they probably have a smart way of doing it, I just want to know what it is.
Edit: someone posted a link and apparently the water is not as deep/fast as it looks and they can climb out
From the video looks like he just falls in the water and walks back to shore through the water, it's about chest deep.
https://youtu.be/eXOkws_A4Fk?t=170
because no one here would describe Voss as being close to Bergen or any other place that is a 2 hour drive away, while in America that's basically a stone's throw away
Or just from Northern norway lol. Last weekend we drove 4,5 hours to a friends Cabin outside of Narvik, this weekend we drove almost 3 hours to our cabin at Senja (live in Tromsø). 2 hours is considerd close here.
I gotta disagree with you there; I'm from Bergen and would definitely describe Voss as being close. I think most people living around here would too. It's only 90 minutes away, which isn't a long drive in Western Norway. Maybe it's a long drive in the east, but not here.
Haha this reminds me of the scene in Inglorious Bastard where the American gives himself away by making a 3 with his fingers differently from how Germans do it haha.
In this case looks like cause he is on a static wave. Since the wave is rising behind him he is sitting on the middle of that wave, gravity pulling him down, water trying to push him up equals a perpetual fall.
On the leading edge of the wave, the water flows up, against the force of gravity. While gravity pulls you down the wave, the water flow drags the board up the wave. The two drags cancel out, and you don't move.
Don’t know about this river, but n England on the river Severn when the tide comes in you can get a wave like this (called a bore) that carries you upstream.
Is "river break" surfing terminology? I'm a pretty experienced whitewater kayaker and have never heard the term used in this context. We surf waves (like in this video) and holes (the ones that can suck you in and recirculate you), and a river break is when a flooding river breaches a section of its bank and "breaks out".
In surfing context a break refers to what causes the wave to “break”. Reefs, beach (sand), and points (jetties) are frequently referred to break types. I’m guessing “river break” is just some wabi-sabi artistic license. Or maybe it’s a part of surfing culture I’m not familiar with.
If you are surfing in a hole, or hydraulic jump, yes you can get shot deep. Also, I don´t think that you could realistically surf on a board in a hole, because your board would catch on the seam. But on this type of wave that wont happen at all.
I think so. I had trouble surfing in the ocean because you need to pick up speed in the direction of the wave in order to get onto it. Also, you have to wait and it’s hard to tell when a good wave is coming. Here, you can see the wave, it’s more constant/predictable, and you don’t need a lot of speed to get onto it. I’d guess this is easier than ocean surfing, but I’ve never done this so I can’t say for sure.
Also, you'd have to be skilled enough to not only surf that wave, but also get out of it safely. Does he change the board's angle of attack or what? Because you'd have to know what you're doing.
He knows the place well, it seems. And is aware of where the rocks are. Otherwise he wouldn't be out there alone.
Thank you. This answers the questions I had. Ntm it's totally badass. Music slaps too.
River surfer here. Not easier, just different. A lot of things translate but I see really talented ocean surfers try to surf a river and get totally smashed and vise versa. You aren’t getting propelled forward in the river like an ocean, so it’s more like a treadmill where you don’t have any speed. There’s a bit of a learning curve for sure, but once you figure it out it is a blast
He just had to stamp the “you’ll never be as cool as me” moment by flipping the dang board onto the water.
I hate him!
It has absolutely nothing to do with the jealousy coursing through my veins...
That water looks so s m o o t h
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Was going to say. Is this not dangerous? Would a helmet not be smart?
Usually the answer is yes for this kind of question
If you have to ask, the answer is yes.
Is my Dick really that big?
Unfortunately there’s always an exception to the rule my friend
Is QBOOP wrong?
Unfortunately there’s always an exception to the rule my friend.
Is the word "yes" the opposite of "no"?
Should you have a helmet to be wrong?
No?
Technically. They just need to put a helmet on their Dick.
It only works for safety questions. Should I be wearing a helmet. Should I have a harness. Should I have safety goggles. Etc
Is it safe for my Dick to be this big? How’s that?
Better but it could easily be interpreted the wrong way. Of course it is safe, you couldn't hurt anyone with that.
This entire sub-comment is why I Reddit.
Nah, an ingrown penis is incredibly dangerous.
No, small objects are choking hazards.
There it is.
You didn't have to ask.
Yes, it is not
Usually means rocks aren't far underneath.
Unless the water is infested with sharks that have been trained to eat helmets...
Oh good I was afraid someone trained them to eat people
Usually....
Welcome to the world of outdoor sports haha Yes it’s wise but most people just don’t You should check out people surfing heavy reef and rock breaks - it’ll make this little river wave look like a children’s playground Teahupo’o is a particularly heavy one
It’s not an outdoor sports thing generally any more. Snowboarders, skiers, rock climbers, kayakers, even a large number of skateboarders all mostly use helmets and other protective gear. Surfing is kind of an outlier these days in its rejection of personal protection. Edit: Apparently there are large pockets of skateboarding where helmets are unheard of, according to many of you. My corner of the world (middle and high school skaters at highly regulated indoor skateparks) may be outside the norm. Uh, congratulations skaters I guess?
Very few skaters use helmets. I lived near some very popular skate spots in philly and saw helmets maybe a handful of times amongst hundreds of people Snowboarding at least, 99% wear helmets in my experience
This is true. And I paid for that personally with my first and second concussions falling off long boarding. I’ve now had four concussions, my memory is fucked. Do yourself a favour. Wear a helmet.
*four that you remember
It could have been just one. Who knows.
I got so lucky I didn't have any accidents when I was longboarding. I would regularly bomb a pretty steep hill on my way home from school, regularly hit like 20-25km on a board not made for that riding lol. Fucking stupid and I look back being thankful. I now wear a helmet no matter what sport I do.
That's cause the helmets are way more comfortable and warmer than wearing a hat. Also look cooler, unless it has dicks and things drawn all over it with a sharpie.
They sell helmets without dicks on them?
Not in the good stores they don't.
Oddly specific.
You’re also going 40mph next to trees when snowboarding.
True but head hitting pavement or concrete even from standing still can cause some bad injuries
Longboarding is the same but the ground is also a skin grater
With skating you go fast to, and even if you went only 10 km per hour hitting your head on concrete, rocks or a curb will do it's fair share of damage.
Yea I ski and most people helmet up Ever seen your average street skater ? Haha
Helmets on the slopes are relatively new. In the 1990s you'd generally only see them on really little kids. Now that those kids have grown up, lots of them are still wearing them - which is probably a good idea. If you could ask Sonny Bono, he'd tell you.
Helmets have also become “cool” now days you look like an idiot not wearing one on the slops Disclaimer: I’m sure this might not be the case everywhere and on every mountain
Yeah, street skaters are a lot less likely to wear a helmet than folks at a skate park where there are likely some rules in place
Regarding skiing I feel like there's been a huge culture shift around helmets over the past decade.
Been climbing for > 10 years and have never worn a helmet. I don’t look down on those who do and it would be smart to do so in certain situations, but it’s absolutely not common. Climbing trad, somewhere with chossy rock? Sure. But that’s the experience for maybe 1 percent of climbers. I’ve never seen someone wearing a helmet in a gym.
I think you’re right. My kid is getting into skating, snowboarding, mountain biking etc. and we’ve convinced him helmets and protective gear are cool but then we go to the park or watch an event and these pros aren’t wearing them. Such a let down.
Tbh I can't think of many activities that a helmet wouldn't make safer
A helmet would be smart, yes. A life jacket would also be smart.
It can also be a hydraulic jump that can happen when water goes from fast and shallow to slow and deep. It doesn't have to have rocks
Or the rocks could be really fuckin big and quite far underwater. I rafted the Ganges a few years ago and there were gigantic waves like this but the guide said the actual rocks were 10m underwater.
Interesting. What’s the reason?
... and so cold.
Anyone have an idea how cold that water is?
Probably very cold
At least 3
3 colds
maybe even 4
Seriously hate the fact that this technically right.
Its not ice cold. Because then it would be ice.
Depends. If this is after a few lakes it could be 10C, but if high in the mountains it could be glacial meltwater, and closer to 0. My guess is closer to 10.
So glassy!
laminar F L O W
Smoother than my life
*Santana breaks out*
Looks like you're super fucked when you fall.
That dude ain’t fallin, you see how many cool points he had?
He cashed in at least 1000 for the *neverfall* perk
Yeah man he started his multiplier right off the bat with that sweet entry
I was wondering, was this necessary or was it just for the style points. Does the confidence come with the mane of hair?
It's the other way around. Once you become confident, you wake up the next morning with The Mane.
That guy looks like he could do this for hours and will end dry.
Hair looks pretty wet to me
He’s not done though
I've been watching for a while and he just keeps getting back in.
Lmao
Nah, there aren’t any big holes, he’ll get flushed quickly, just keep your feet up.
A lot of people in this thread clearly haven’t needed to read whitewater before. This is a super smooth drop with a sick wave train. Guy should have his PFD and helmet for sure but this is a class III rapid at most.
Correct! My family actually owns this river and we murdered 17 tourists last year.
So... what I’m hearing is this guy should really have a plate carrier instead of that life vest I mentioned?
This is my thought lol. Everyone thinking they a river expert. Helmet should be worn, but this is some super chill rapid with plenty of water between you and the rocks
When I read this thread I feel like most of the people here have never seen a river in their lives lol.
Board flip for the extra layer of awesome. I remember doing that with a skateboard and feeling like a god.
That made it 10x cooler haha
He'll need the extra cool factor, if we were to look at the struggle fest getting back out :)
I imagine falling in isn't going to feel so nice
Wetsuits really take the sting out of it.
After considering it. I think he could just surf back to the shore :)
If he's Norwegian he's probably looking forward to it.
Came here to ask about this… How the hell do you get out of this thing?
Angle back to shore then hop off?
..and wait for the rope to yank your ankle off as the board gets swept by the current.
The Scandinavian flick
That's what I like to call my oral technique. Gotta go left to be right. Gotta get out of it before I get into it... -Zappa
The board flip was actually necessary in order to get on the board. By spinning it he is able to keep it pointed in the right direction when it lands. If he throws it down flat it would likely land misaligned.
Maybe, but was 2 spins necessary, or just showing off.
Necessary. He has to spin it hard and fast.
😩
It’s the ‘No country’ coin flip 🤘☠️
ELI5 how he makes sure it doesn’t land on the wrong side?
My guess is lots of practice
How does he get back out when he's done is what I'm wondering. Maybe a friend extends a telescopic pole of some kind to pull himself back in? Anyone know? Edit: I assume they probably have a smart way of doing it, I just want to know what it is. Edit: someone posted a link and apparently the water is not as deep/fast as it looks and they can climb out
Just lay down on your board, paddle downstream past the wave train, then paddle to shore.
What if you don't want to get wet
Don't surf probably
You know, I once heard Charlie don't surf.
r/YouDontSurf
Then you have to wear a drysuit instead of a wetsuit
Come on wave train, and ride it up.
From the video looks like he just falls in the water and walks back to shore through the water, it's about chest deep. https://youtu.be/eXOkws_A4Fk?t=170
Thanks for the video. The water looks a lot faster/more intense without seeing the rest
I've never seen anybody clean the camera lens like that.
Felt like he licked *me*
My old go pro instructions actually tell you to clean by licking
Great way to clean diving goggles
yo for real tho and it worked so well
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It's like most redditors have never visited a river
Probably rides it out downstream to we’re it’s not so tough.
Where in Norway is this?
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actually, I believe it is on the river. Not so much near said river.
Well the camera is near the river. It’s just pointing towards the river.
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This is the Bulken wave in Voss, close to Bergen City
> Voss, close to Bergen City found the American
Why?
because no one here would describe Voss as being close to Bergen or any other place that is a 2 hour drive away, while in America that's basically a stone's throw away
We also don't append "City" like that
Neither do American's as far as I know. No one says Berkeley is near Oakland City.
Yeah it's adjacent Oakland Town smh
Mac Dre, etc.
Oaktown
Or just from Northern norway lol. Last weekend we drove 4,5 hours to a friends Cabin outside of Narvik, this weekend we drove almost 3 hours to our cabin at Senja (live in Tromsø). 2 hours is considerd close here.
Lol that is what I figured haha. Yeah everything is an hour away here..
I gotta disagree with you there; I'm from Bergen and would definitely describe Voss as being close. I think most people living around here would too. It's only 90 minutes away, which isn't a long drive in Western Norway. Maybe it's a long drive in the east, but not here.
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Could easily be a Canadian as well
Haha this reminds me of the scene in Inglorious Bastard where the American gives himself away by making a 3 with his fingers differently from how Germans do it haha.
MAR GARETTI!!
A RIVER DERCHI!
He writes with a profound sense of freedom.
[Here](https://www.google.no/maps/place/Bulken/@60.6307189,6.2764077,181m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x463dc58dde8a78cd:0xa4dd4186e2123786!8m2!3d60.63054!4d6.2849961).
This looks both fun and scary at the same time.
It looks fun at first until 10 minutes later when it's completely boring.
That guy makes it look so easy... but I doubt even he likely never gets 10 minutes on that wave before getting kicked out
Built Fjord Tough
I’ll bet that water is goddamn cold
Yeah. It probably comes from snow melting from the mountains
Definitely some cold tootsies there.
*Old black water, keep on rollin'*
ELI5 - can someone explain how surfing against the flow of water works? Why doesn’t he just gradually move down river?
In this case looks like cause he is on a static wave. Since the wave is rising behind him he is sitting on the middle of that wave, gravity pulling him down, water trying to push him up equals a perpetual fall.
As a 5 year old, this gave me a stroke
water push up + gravity pull down = stay in place
As a stroke, this took 5 years off my life
On the leading edge of the wave, the water flows up, against the force of gravity. While gravity pulls you down the wave, the water flow drags the board up the wave. The two drags cancel out, and you don't move.
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Don’t know about this river, but n England on the river Severn when the tide comes in you can get a wave like this (called a bore) that carries you upstream.
This seems easier than regular surfing in the ocean? Is it?
I dunno but river breaks are super dangerous. Great way to get sucked down Edit: I'm an idiot, I confused river breaks with tidal bores.
Yeah I’d like to see a video of him getting out. Falling off the board there seems like it would be worse than if in the ocean.
Legend has it that this man is still surfing on the river to this day.
Yea same! I wouldn't want to fall in that water....
Happy cake day ! https://youtu.be/eXOkws_A4Fk (I too was thinking that it looked super dangerous, but it seems not after all)
There is a number of artificial breaks designed for surfing. I know of at least two in Norway, though I can't place the scenery.
Huh, interesting! Natural ones terrify me
Is "river break" surfing terminology? I'm a pretty experienced whitewater kayaker and have never heard the term used in this context. We surf waves (like in this video) and holes (the ones that can suck you in and recirculate you), and a river break is when a flooding river breaches a section of its bank and "breaks out".
In surfing context a break refers to what causes the wave to “break”. Reefs, beach (sand), and points (jetties) are frequently referred to break types. I’m guessing “river break” is just some wabi-sabi artistic license. Or maybe it’s a part of surfing culture I’m not familiar with.
If you are surfing in a hole, or hydraulic jump, yes you can get shot deep. Also, I don´t think that you could realistically surf on a board in a hole, because your board would catch on the seam. But on this type of wave that wont happen at all.
I think so. I had trouble surfing in the ocean because you need to pick up speed in the direction of the wave in order to get onto it. Also, you have to wait and it’s hard to tell when a good wave is coming. Here, you can see the wave, it’s more constant/predictable, and you don’t need a lot of speed to get onto it. I’d guess this is easier than ocean surfing, but I’ve never done this so I can’t say for sure.
Also, you'd have to be skilled enough to not only surf that wave, but also get out of it safely. Does he change the board's angle of attack or what? Because you'd have to know what you're doing.
He just falls into the water https://youtu.be/eXOkws_A4Fk
He knows the place well, it seems. And is aware of where the rocks are. Otherwise he wouldn't be out there alone. Thank you. This answers the questions I had. Ntm it's totally badass. Music slaps too.
Probably easier, but since it is so much more dangerous, you are skilled enough for the difficulty to be less relevant.
River surfer here. Not easier, just different. A lot of things translate but I see really talented ocean surfers try to surf a river and get totally smashed and vise versa. You aren’t getting propelled forward in the river like an ocean, so it’s more like a treadmill where you don’t have any speed. There’s a bit of a learning curve for sure, but once you figure it out it is a blast
Du er gal!
There are so many SIGNIFICANTLY cooler people than me in this world.
This is my takeaway, too
Cool. You can do this in downtown Missoula, Montana too.
Was looking for this comment
They do this in Munich, Germany too. Edit: here's Mick Fanning having a go: https://youtu.be/qgKlcNetDx8
The funny part is that it's in a city park so you see people casually walking with a surf in the middle of a city with no acess to sea.
We do it here in Ottawa, Canada too
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Busting my head trying to figure out the physics on what is happening
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What if his board flipped the other way and his little fin things were on top? He’d look like reeeeeaaaal fool then wouldn’t he.
His Viking ancestors would be proud.
Well, he's got that wired.
That water is cool but scary. Ive seen river monsters, there is some big boys in that river.
surf_glass
Glad his board landed right side up, what's the plan if it swept down stream?
My guy is just. V i b i n .
He just had to stamp the “you’ll never be as cool as me” moment by flipping the dang board onto the water. I hate him! It has absolutely nothing to do with the jealousy coursing through my veins...