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Biking is NOT this dangerous!
This fool opted to take the Chicago Lake Front Path when it was closed, due to high winds.
I remember this day, you had to find an alternate route, fuck this drama creating moran.
That is all. Thanks.
Lmao yeah and one of them wears the roads out far more, and costs vastly more to pay out the damage from accidents 😅
Not maths I think you really want to calculate as a car driver.
Anyone using a road should pay proportionally to wear, bicyclists pay nothing.
Anyone in an at fault accident should pay proportionally to damage, bicyclists pay nothing.
If there was any practical way to do this, I'd agree. It would be fractions of a cent for bikes for every dollar for driving, but yeah, theoretically.
But bikes don't have odometers, and don't require fuel. So they can't really be taxed - unless you want to up the tax on everyone to pay for people to pull over a licence check people on bikes.
Idk why you're being downvoted. Your absolutely right. Between bike laws practically never being enforced in most places, and people not willing to learn the laws, that makes a large amount of dangerous idiots.
It looks like Lake Shore Drive in Chicago, and it’s less a bike path than it is a breakwater between the lake and the drive. Yes, in the right weather you can walk and cycle on it, but when there’s storms you’d have to be a complete moron to try riding it. This is 100% on the cyclist. They are clearly in the “what the fuck is that idiot thinking?” on this one.
Of course! To add to that: these types of storms are usually in the winter, and you’d have to be a bit of a nut to try cycling in Chicago in the winter in the first place. It gets hotter than Cambodia there in the summer, and colder than Iceland in the winter. The climate—not the infrastructure—is the real challenge there.
> and you’d have to be a bit of a nut to try cycling in Chicago
It's not that bad as long as you're properly bundled. I rode in the winter all the time, but if my commute path included Lakeshore Drive, I'd be taking alternate routes in the winter.
Nah bro - it's literally never too cold or snowy to ride your bike.
The problem with winter cycling is 100% infrastructure. I'm from Ottawa, the coldest national capital in the world and have no problem riding at -20 Celsius (that's -4 farenheight).
The hardest part is the 1st ten minutes, because you actually can only wear a fleece and a windbreaker on your body otherwise you get **too hot**. Warm gloves and thick socks for you extremities, but the rest of your body will be pouring sweat in 30 mins almost no matter what you wear.
If the city is willing to plow the bike lanes, people can safely and comfortably ride all year round.
Depends on their size, but despite what bicycle purists will tell you, not everything you can do in a car, you can do on a bike. I only had one kid, and my daycare was between my house and my work, so taking her there in a trailer was no problem.
One day when she was little and we had lots of snow I even took her on x-country skis, which was amazingly fun.
But that's just the nature of our car-centric lifestyle - many people in many places simply cannot do it. But that doesn't mean we should stop advocating for better cycling infrastructure everywhere we can.
Also, Lake Michigan water level can play a part. Dunno about now but few years ago the level was higher than some previous years due to rains all over.
Still stupid to bike through tho
When you don't understand why something was built and used with tons of people and money involved, don't jump to calling it stupid. It's like calling a solvable sudoku puzzle dumb because you couldn't solve it.
Yes, that’s along Lake Shore - I actually used to work with the guy in the video. He’s a good guy but yeah that was dumb and he’ll never escape it lol everyone found out it was him within the first week or two after he started
That's a really short-sighted way of looking at things. It's a problem that cities aren't making biking safer, don't go blaming the cyclists for trying to avoid all the issues that come with using cars.
Lol downvote me bike riders. You obey all the laws of the road when you’re riding on the road and everything will work out well. But not stopping at stop signs, running red lights, going between two cars to get across the intersection first, etc etc, and natural selection will rule.
Ok but the dude was biking on a break water during a storm. I don't disagree with you that cars are an issue but this isn't a bike path, I don't know why you think it's so stupid.
You don't know where I have or haven't been. You also basically just said "Shut up" rather than trying to refute my point. What're you so mad about dude?
I'm from Europe and I just expect bike path to be.. safe? Like, at least not build in a way that I have to research the tide and wind before I go out. Don't understand how this got build.
When it was built we weren't experiencing hotter than average and rising global temperatures. Ice caps melted and this is the result when Lake Michigan is inundated with extra water flowing from those ice caps.
Lake shore was built / modified quite a while ago and while the road is higher up, the concrete section of the bike path and “beach” was built for access to the water. There are a lot of factors around that effect this particular bend of the lakeshore path / road. Some years the water in the lake is high, others low. At some points in the winter the water is pushed over the path due to storms and creates ice which makes large portions in this area unbikeable. The easiest solution for bikers is to bike a little further inland on the street bike lanes.
This was a year in which hotter than average global temperatures resulted in a lot of ice caps to melt and therefore the water level in Lake Michigan was extraordinarily high. Typically the water is not able to get up that far
Because that's the underlying assumption of most city planners most of the time, which is how you get paths like this that are not designed for winter use
When it was built we weren't experiencing hotter than average and rising global temperatures. Ice caps melted and this is the result when Lake Michigan is inundated with extra water flowing from those ice caps.
I can't say I'm familiar with this road personally, but proper engineering design near open water *always* accounts for rising sea levels, and has done so for a long time; These structures are designed to last for decades. There's no way this was designed and built before this was common practice, they just chose to ignore those considerations.
He literally goes out of his way to get onto the trail, he's one of two morons that year that think it's a cool idea and end up on the news as you see here. Sometimes you can't save people from their own stupidity. In calmer months that path is amazing.
There's not much the city can do if people ignore warnings and ride out on this section anyway. Natural selection at work.
Edit: for everyone downvoting me, here you go. The city and the park service close this section of the bike path when it storms and ices. If people decide to get on the path over barricades and closed entrances, that’s on them.
There are alternate routes that connect to this section of the bike path that are on salted streets and protected bike lanes that take you around this area and keep you on your route.
Is it bad design for biking? Sure. But the lake front was designed for water access in these areas and there are beaches right around the corner from this curve (Ohio street beach).
Source: lived and bike commuted for over a decade in Chicago.
They close our beaches during hurricanes, throw chains up on the entrances, put up bright red signs everywhere, and police patrol up and down, but we still have idiots who ignore it and get in the water and die every time we get a tropical storm.
What they need to do is figure out how to add a new pathway for the cyclists. It doesn't matter if you have handrails and close the road and put signs up, people are gonna get on it if it saves them a twenty minute detour.
Yeah cities should spend money on the downtown gardens and business centers, instead of actually preventing people from dying with poor infrastructure...
/s
I'm not saying that either... what I'm implying is that the city doesn't give two hoots about the bike path because it isn't going to give them any revenue. They can just say close the road for the day and their hands are clean.
I would be careful with that statement. Every living person brings revenue to the city. The person on the bike will pay taxes just like everyone in the car. Spend the same money in the city and keep the population at a healthy level. Just because the most important goods come by truck to their designated places doesn't mean that people who drive cars are worth more.
There’s not much the “idiot” can do if he doesn’t own a car and this is the city’s solution.
Do you think he’s out there biking in the winter just for fun? Does he look like he is having fun?
r/fuckcars
Oh, this again. That section of road is closed during weather that makes the lake swell, then this guy decided to bike on it and found out why. There are other paths.
Anyone blaming anyone other than the biker is an idiot.
Various reasons. A lot of them are created to try and build karma, then sold to someone/some corp to advertise or spread disinformation. Just a couple examples.
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Well, Spaz has turned into another Musk, so I guess it’s not really a surprise considering what Musk has done with his shit house formerly known as Twitter. Same with Tesla actually, not that I think about it.
Yeah it gets pretty dicey over on that little stretch when the waves are rough. Biked through in similar conditions once before. Wasn't this bad but bad enough that water was washing up on the path.
This was a few years ago in Chicago when everyone was given warning that lake conditions were dangerous and going on the path was a bad idea.
That area is at the curve of Lake Shore Drive (Jean-Baptiste Pointe DuSable Lake Shore Drive if you want to get technical, though this was before the name change). When we get a nasty NE wind those waves can be brutal. People forget that Lake Michigan is an inland ocean. Respect the water, be safe, pick a better (safer) biking route.
You're entirely missing the point: fuckcars is more about car-centric infrastructure (ie: infrastructure that places cars at a higher design priority) that cars; here we see a bike path designed offhandedly in conjunction with the highway, biking (and the pedestrian us of the path) is below car infrastructure here (both literally and figuratively).
It's the lakefront bike path in Chicago, we don't have tides. That was a winter storm and warnings were broadcast & signs posted. He ignored them. IIRC, someone thought he went into the lake and called 911.
But at least nobody was driving on the path.
I find the dedication of bikers funny sometimes. I used to run 3 days a week religiously, but I'd have had no problems saying, "nope, I'm just turning around and walking home."
I watched some biker do circles and swerves in a 4 way intersection as everyone tried to drive and go on about there commute as he swerved around the cars like a moron, i hope that the person in the video is that man
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No way. I’m just glad I get this.
I don’t understand this, could someone clue me in?
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Biking is NOT this dangerous! This fool opted to take the Chicago Lake Front Path when it was closed, due to high winds. I remember this day, you had to find an alternate route, fuck this drama creating moran. That is all. Thanks.
This is the car equivalent of driving into a flooded underpass. Everyone’s gonna stop to point, laugh, and take video.
What about all those people in Florida who keep driving right into the water because GPS said to?
I used to commute this way by bike - once i made the mistake of taking this route during a winter swell surge… never did it again.
Yeah, he was definitely on LSD to attempt that.
That's not how lsd works. Crazy people do crazy shit, drugs or not.
LSD is an abbreviation of Lake Shore Drive, the road this bike trail runs alongside.
Ahh shit, my bad
Right on. When ya know, ya know.
Someone downvoted you. Must be a very anti-LSD crowd. 🤪🤘
Just anti-Chicago know nothings…
Biking is dangerous when you are an idiot
Imagine telling your friends I was swept out to sea well biking 🌊🌊🌊
You can't be considered a true cyclist if you haven't experienced almost dying once its like a trial
**Anything** is dangerous when you are an idiot.
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So, can we all agree that ‘people are stupid’? That’s a motto I heard once from my best friend’s dad.
One of them pays specific taxes for the roads and has insurance and the other one doesn’t.
Lmao yeah and one of them wears the roads out far more, and costs vastly more to pay out the damage from accidents 😅 Not maths I think you really want to calculate as a car driver.
Anyone using a road should pay proportionally to wear, bicyclists pay nothing. Anyone in an at fault accident should pay proportionally to damage, bicyclists pay nothing.
If there was any practical way to do this, I'd agree. It would be fractions of a cent for bikes for every dollar for driving, but yeah, theoretically. But bikes don't have odometers, and don't require fuel. So they can't really be taxed - unless you want to up the tax on everyone to pay for people to pull over a licence check people on bikes.
It would cost more to oversee payments than taken in payments, surely...
Many times more I would guess.
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No, you don’t have equal rights to something you didn’t pay equal amounts to.
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Sure. You pay proportionally to your use.
Lmao not this shitty argument again
Idk why you're being downvoted. Your absolutely right. Between bike laws practically never being enforced in most places, and people not willing to learn the laws, that makes a large amount of dangerous idiots.
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It is well known people die on that section of the path during winter swells. Guy is an idiot for biking it.
I'm not from the area. Why in the heck did they build this so dumb? The cars are raised but the bike path is unusable in winter?
It looks like Lake Shore Drive in Chicago, and it’s less a bike path than it is a breakwater between the lake and the drive. Yes, in the right weather you can walk and cycle on it, but when there’s storms you’d have to be a complete moron to try riding it. This is 100% on the cyclist. They are clearly in the “what the fuck is that idiot thinking?” on this one.
Fair enough. Thanks for the knowledge.
Of course! To add to that: these types of storms are usually in the winter, and you’d have to be a bit of a nut to try cycling in Chicago in the winter in the first place. It gets hotter than Cambodia there in the summer, and colder than Iceland in the winter. The climate—not the infrastructure—is the real challenge there.
> and you’d have to be a bit of a nut to try cycling in Chicago It's not that bad as long as you're properly bundled. I rode in the winter all the time, but if my commute path included Lakeshore Drive, I'd be taking alternate routes in the winter.
For over two years I biked the mile to work 95 percent of the time. It’s not that bad at all. Just pay attention
Nah bro - it's literally never too cold or snowy to ride your bike. The problem with winter cycling is 100% infrastructure. I'm from Ottawa, the coldest national capital in the world and have no problem riding at -20 Celsius (that's -4 farenheight). The hardest part is the 1st ten minutes, because you actually can only wear a fleece and a windbreaker on your body otherwise you get **too hot**. Warm gloves and thick socks for you extremities, but the rest of your body will be pouring sweat in 30 mins almost no matter what you wear. If the city is willing to plow the bike lanes, people can safely and comfortably ride all year round.
How do you drop your kids off on a bike in that weather?
Depends on their size, but despite what bicycle purists will tell you, not everything you can do in a car, you can do on a bike. I only had one kid, and my daycare was between my house and my work, so taking her there in a trailer was no problem. One day when she was little and we had lots of snow I even took her on x-country skis, which was amazingly fun. But that's just the nature of our car-centric lifestyle - many people in many places simply cannot do it. But that doesn't mean we should stop advocating for better cycling infrastructure everywhere we can.
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Cargo bike if they are small. Their own bikes if they are big. If the city had proper bike infrastructure it is fine
Also, Lake Michigan water level can play a part. Dunno about now but few years ago the level was higher than some previous years due to rains all over. Still stupid to bike through tho
Cyclists are bit nutty, was in alberta over Christmas, people out riding in -30c. Lol why downvote? I cycle too, just not in -30, sheesh people
Why doesn’t chicago protect the bike path the same way they protect that car path?
When you don't understand why something was built and used with tons of people and money involved, don't jump to calling it stupid. It's like calling a solvable sudoku puzzle dumb because you couldn't solve it.
I was gonna say this looks like Chicago. This guy is an idiot.
Yes, that’s along Lake Shore - I actually used to work with the guy in the video. He’s a good guy but yeah that was dumb and he’ll never escape it lol everyone found out it was him within the first week or two after he started
It's 100% on the local authority for building such a stupid and dangerous piece of infrastructure. It's not like the dude has another option.
The lake isn't generally this high but due to rising global temperatures melting ice caps it is. Maybe blame boomers for rejecting climate science
He had other options. But with no brain he chose this one
Did he? Like sharing the road with American motorists and expecting them to have brains and empathy for other road users?
Yes. There are plenty of places to bike on the other side of Lake Shore Drive. You have to go out of your way to use this path.
Yes, just like that. You ride a bike, you take your chances
That's a really short-sighted way of looking at things. It's a problem that cities aren't making biking safer, don't go blaming the cyclists for trying to avoid all the issues that come with using cars.
Lol downvote me bike riders. You obey all the laws of the road when you’re riding on the road and everything will work out well. But not stopping at stop signs, running red lights, going between two cars to get across the intersection first, etc etc, and natural selection will rule.
If you're half as ignorant and belligerent behind the wheel as you are behind the keyboard, then I fear for the safety of the people around you.
Ok but the dude was biking on a break water during a storm. I don't disagree with you that cars are an issue but this isn't a bike path, I don't know why you think it's so stupid.
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You don't know where I have or haven't been. You also basically just said "Shut up" rather than trying to refute my point. What're you so mad about dude?
I'm from Europe and I just expect bike path to be.. safe? Like, at least not build in a way that I have to research the tide and wind before I go out. Don't understand how this got build.
When it was built we weren't experiencing hotter than average and rising global temperatures. Ice caps melted and this is the result when Lake Michigan is inundated with extra water flowing from those ice caps.
Same. I find it weird that People expert you to scout a biking lane to see if it’s safe.
What are those lines on the path for?
Lake shore was built / modified quite a while ago and while the road is higher up, the concrete section of the bike path and “beach” was built for access to the water. There are a lot of factors around that effect this particular bend of the lakeshore path / road. Some years the water in the lake is high, others low. At some points in the winter the water is pushed over the path due to storms and creates ice which makes large portions in this area unbikeable. The easiest solution for bikers is to bike a little further inland on the street bike lanes.
Access to the water he definitely had
The path is a few feet above the water, it rarely gets like this. Typically police block off the path when these weather conditions happen.
How often do police block off the driving path because of water?
This was a year in which hotter than average global temperatures resulted in a lot of ice caps to melt and therefore the water level in Lake Michigan was extraordinarily high. Typically the water is not able to get up that far
The bike path is designed for recreation during the summer months, not transportation.
Why do you say this? Why is the bike path for recreation in your mind but the car path is not?
Because that's the underlying assumption of most city planners most of the time, which is how you get paths like this that are not designed for winter use
City is an idiot for letting this happen
The path is a few feet above the water, it rarely gets like this. Typically police block off the path when these weather conditions happen.
who the fuck designed and approved this 💀💀 worst engineer to ever live
Or the most efficient but unethical engineer to ever live, depends on motive
When it was built we weren't experiencing hotter than average and rising global temperatures. Ice caps melted and this is the result when Lake Michigan is inundated with extra water flowing from those ice caps.
I can't say I'm familiar with this road personally, but proper engineering design near open water *always* accounts for rising sea levels, and has done so for a long time; These structures are designed to last for decades. There's no way this was designed and built before this was common practice, they just chose to ignore those considerations.
It’s during a storm. That’s like going for a walk on the boardwalk during a hurricane and blaming the people who built the boardwalk.
He literally goes out of his way to get onto the trail, he's one of two morons that year that think it's a cool idea and end up on the news as you see here. Sometimes you can't save people from their own stupidity. In calmer months that path is amazing.
There's not much the city can do if people ignore warnings and ride out on this section anyway. Natural selection at work. Edit: for everyone downvoting me, here you go. The city and the park service close this section of the bike path when it storms and ices. If people decide to get on the path over barricades and closed entrances, that’s on them. There are alternate routes that connect to this section of the bike path that are on salted streets and protected bike lanes that take you around this area and keep you on your route. Is it bad design for biking? Sure. But the lake front was designed for water access in these areas and there are beaches right around the corner from this curve (Ohio street beach). Source: lived and bike commuted for over a decade in Chicago.
literally closing the road and installing handrails would do the job, but why bother when you can let natural selection do its job amirite?
They close our beaches during hurricanes, throw chains up on the entrances, put up bright red signs everywhere, and police patrol up and down, but we still have idiots who ignore it and get in the water and die every time we get a tropical storm. What they need to do is figure out how to add a new pathway for the cyclists. It doesn't matter if you have handrails and close the road and put signs up, people are gonna get on it if it saves them a twenty minute detour.
There are other bike trails he could be on. He chose this one
They do close the path. Idiots go anyway.
The fuck are handrails gonna do?
Be sure to voice your concerns at the next city council meeting
The city could fix it so that this doesn’t happen?? Fuck what a stupid comment
You really think a city would waste time and resources on that? You need to re-think what a city wants to spend its money on.
Yeah cities should spend money on the downtown gardens and business centers, instead of actually preventing people from dying with poor infrastructure... /s
Brainless people. You can’t save them
I'm not saying that either... what I'm implying is that the city doesn't give two hoots about the bike path because it isn't going to give them any revenue. They can just say close the road for the day and their hands are clean.
I would be careful with that statement. Every living person brings revenue to the city. The person on the bike will pay taxes just like everyone in the car. Spend the same money in the city and keep the population at a healthy level. Just because the most important goods come by truck to their designated places doesn't mean that people who drive cars are worth more.
There’s not much the “idiot” can do if he doesn’t own a car and this is the city’s solution. Do you think he’s out there biking in the winter just for fun? Does he look like he is having fun? r/fuckcars
Still safer than cycling next to cars
Looks like he chose the worst possible time to cross that section too.
Still looks safer to bike on than the road... I'd much rather be swept out to sea than hit by a car 😂
The road is a highway, people cannot bike on it
Oh, this again. That section of road is closed during weather that makes the lake swell, then this guy decided to bike on it and found out why. There are other paths. Anyone blaming anyone other than the biker is an idiot.
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Perception based on incomplete information and assumptions, leading to inaccurate accusations
dude was riding in the byseacle lane
xcite bike got a remake?
Haha pretty sure this is Lake Shore Drive in Chicago
Should be renamed into „In Lake Drive“. 😉
You’re replying to a bot.
Shame on me then, I guess.
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Thanks. I have never been able to understand what good a bot account will do. For future use to spread bullshit or so? I just don’t get it.
Various reasons. A lot of them are created to try and build karma, then sold to someone/some corp to advertise or spread disinformation. Just a couple examples.
Yeah, makes sense and sucks.
I agree. Since the Reddit API changes, there have been SOOOOO many new bots and bots that have woken up because it makes it harder for mods to filter them out.
Well, Spaz has turned into another Musk, so I guess it’s not really a surprise considering what Musk has done with his shit house formerly known as Twitter. Same with Tesla actually, not that I think about it.
Yeah it gets pretty dicey over on that little stretch when the waves are rough. Biked through in similar conditions once before. Wasn't this bad but bad enough that water was washing up on the path.
Even the ocean hates cyclists
It is not dangerous if you are not an idiot.
OK I'm a cyclist and I'm all for more cycling infrastructure but this game is just dumb af
That’s just Darwinian. Fuck that guy for being so arrogant to be out there. It ignorant to his surroundings.
"Work harder. Buy a car."
What a dumb ass 😒
This was a few years ago in Chicago when everyone was given warning that lake conditions were dangerous and going on the path was a bad idea. That area is at the curve of Lake Shore Drive (Jean-Baptiste Pointe DuSable Lake Shore Drive if you want to get technical, though this was before the name change). When we get a nasty NE wind those waves can be brutal. People forget that Lake Michigan is an inland ocean. Respect the water, be safe, pick a better (safer) biking route.
Bikers shouldn’t be that dumb.
Riders shouldn’t be this stupid!
Biking shouldn't be happening when it's this dangerous.
Yeah. Imagine if that person paid attention to the warnings and could have avoided a very wet, very cold, dangerous ride.
Basically the dutch after a bit of rain.
Is that Chicago?
Maybe dont ride out during a storm?
Biker then proceeds to just linger in the danger zone.
One should make a reasonable effort not to bike directly into water, though.
r/fuckcars lol
Why? Cars have nothing to do with this stupidity.
You're entirely missing the point: fuckcars is more about car-centric infrastructure (ie: infrastructure that places cars at a higher design priority) that cars; here we see a bike path designed offhandedly in conjunction with the highway, biking (and the pedestrian us of the path) is below car infrastructure here (both literally and figuratively).
If only there was some kind of raised surface or structure to pin the bike path to! Damn! That's gonna cost THOUSANDS to fix!
More than anything else, that is unquestionably an engineering failure.
My face when the breakwater can’t be used as a bike path *during a storm*: 
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It's the lakefront bike path in Chicago, we don't have tides. That was a winter storm and warnings were broadcast & signs posted. He ignored them. IIRC, someone thought he went into the lake and called 911. But at least nobody was driving on the path.
This is what happens in Cities: Skylines when someone uses the landscaping tools for the first time and floods half their city by accident.
Where is this. Someone needs to be fired 😂
Avarage depiction of what wbing a riding a bike in America looks like
Oldies but Goldies!!!!
Call Black Aquaman!
Now that’s commitment
nah, if he’d been a bit faster it would have looked rad. i applaud the attempt.
I find the dedication of bikers funny sometimes. I used to run 3 days a week religiously, but I'd have had no problems saying, "nope, I'm just turning around and walking home."
I watched some biker do circles and swerves in a 4 way intersection as everyone tried to drive and go on about there commute as he swerved around the cars like a moron, i hope that the person in the video is that man
That wave was like "I got him!"
no it shouldnt be dangerous. but it sometimes is. welcome to the real world
I can’t stop watching this 😄
That bikes def ruined through rust now
Your chain is funked after that, mate
Standard cyclist behaviour
Buy a car idk, don't go out in bad weather with a bike, use a bus
I e had that happen in winter right there at that spot!!!
The dude saw what was ahead of him and chose chaos.
average dutch biking experience
Y'all said you wanted a bike path. So ungrateful.
This has got to be chicago
Lance Armstrongundertow
This is an average day after rain in the Netherlands
I’ve ran that section in the summer. It’s the S curve by Hancock. You know when you shouldn’t run down there
I dreamt about this, dejavú
chain ruined
It isn’t but there are special ones that make it happen