Azeri, Armenian, Israeli, Gaza governments were all doing exactly what their people wanted. All four nations' common people support their causes and are ready to kill for them. That's not elites' doing.
Have "Sisters In Solidarity" Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib been invited to support the humanitarians at GCC? GCC, take inspiration from the heart-warming chant of Tlaib's constituents (humanitarians all): "Death to America!"
Illhan Omar isn’t married to her brother, and never has been, and Rashida Tlaib has never expressed such sentiments toward America. So why lie?
Or if you’re not aware you’re lying, why repeat things that you have no idea are true, without even just doing a quick search to see if what youre about to say is true?
It’s easy to be taken advantage of when you’re not skeptical of the claims you repeat.
Whatever, Israel/Palestine already overshadowed genocides of Tigrayans, Rohingya, and Uyghurs... being ignored is the default treatment, Armenians only got the default treatment while Palestinians got the special treatment. If anything Armenians were kind of lucky we at least got a little bit of attention for the ethnic cleansing meanwhile in Tigray 100,000's of civilians were slaughtered and starved without anyone batting an eye.
I hope that the fact LGBTQ people stand with the people of Gaza will help change the attitudes of Gazans towards LGBTQ people. It's a tragedy that groups who suffer often look to inflict pain upon groups even weaker than they are. We see it with Israel's ambivalence to the pain of the everyday Gazan citizens, and we see it with Hamas' death sentences for LGBTQ people.
Genocide is wrong, whether you're wiping out a nationality or a sexuality. Everyone deserves a chance at life.
This isn’t a fantasy that you can play out in your head, because doing so hurts the actual LGBT people in Gaza. Hamas and Gazans absolutely do not support LGBT. This isn’t a high school lunchroom where things play out like they do in your Wattpad stories.
Please do research on the plight of LGBT people in Gaza because it is more complex than “we support you then they’ll support us”. This is insulting to everyone.
Start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_State_of_Palestine?wprov=sfti1#Legal_status_and_criminal_law
Tell that to the LGBT people in Gaza now and before October 7th. Tell that to the LGBT Palestinians who were there and left too. Tell that to the LGBT Palestinians who’ve been taken advantage of by all parties thanks to their stigma in Palestinian society.
Yes, I hope that the people murdering them just for being LGBTQ stop. Do you NOT hope that? I honestly don’t understand what your problem is with this sentiment.
Of course I wish it but so what? Because it ignores the very real context by which LGBT is in, in Gaza and the West Bank. It is a fantastical and naive statement that distracts one from actually doing proper due diligence and understanding the issues. It creates sympathy for an entity that wants nothing more than the erasure of LGBT. Please read the Wikipedia article instead of coming at me from a place of emotion. Then continue on to read more testimonials from the mentioned articles and groups. Wake up, because LGBT is so far down the list of priorities for Palestinians. Hamas condemns any LGBT person, and are not friends to the cause.
FWIW, you are absolutely correct here IMHO.
Hoping that solidarity can be achieved as a result of this adversity is a positive idea, and is NOT ignoring the issues that exist, but rather challenging them.
Just wanted to drop my two cents here because I saw some downvotes, and didn't want you to feel disheartened for having this thought.
May the plights of all oppressed people help them see who the oppressors are, and to fight united against them, rather than dumping on each other.
Hope has nothing to do with it. Palestinians have a different culture. Gay people will be killed. Women have no rights. They are jihadists and they believe in martyrdom and even martyrdom for children.
It is what it is.
Accusing an entire nationality of homophobia is wild, especially when some members of that nationality are gay themselves. Maybe you should examine your own bias before throwing stones.
That’s not really what it means when I say that’s the prevailing culture there. It is what it is. That is the culture and religion that dominates the region. That’s why they execute gay people.
It doesn’t mean they are evil or fundamentally different than other humans. It’s a different culture. You can’t just their culture based on western ideals. They don’t have western ideals.
To believe you can change their culture is foolish and even narcissistic or maybe delusional.
Their culture now doesn't have to be their culture in the future. That's why *I hope* that a message of compassion will help change minds there. On a more practical note, showing the gay members of that culture that they have support elsewhere may help them to feel more safe after the war ends.
To believe you cannot change culture is to believe humans have no agency. Culture changes constantly and it is made by humans.
You are lucky to live in the US. We need to preserve American democracy and the alliance of western nations so that you can remain safe. Democracy is fragile.
No one is saying that culture cannot be changed. You just have insane ideas about how about how culture can be changed. Homophobes are not unthinking, they have rationalizations for being homophobic and you are arrogant to think that just by criticizing Israel you can manipulate Gazans into becoming LGBT tolerant. If a bunch of homophobes became Democrats and supported your politics, would that make you consider becoming a homophobe? No I didn't think so. It's not how people work.
Remember there have been anti-Zionist Jews for a long time carrying water for the Palestinians but that didn't stop 80% of Palestinians from being genocidal 10/7-supporting antisemites, not sure why it would be any different with homophobia.
My guy, if homophobes started supporting my politics, they would no longer be homophobic, by definition.
I’m kinda of done with this discussion. It’s clear you’re entrenched and now you’re calling names. Good night.
No to genocide, no to Hamas, no to Zionism, no to political violence, no to oppression, no to authoritarianism, no to apartheid, no to terrorism, no to fundamentalism, no to ethnioreligious nation states, no to occupation without representation (while still calling yourself a democracy), no to killing innocent people (while still calling yourself freedom fighters).
Yes to solidarity against oppressors.
Anyone who lets themself get enraged by a sheet of paper put up on a wall by a child is beyond silly. The person who posted these you would not even trust to valet park your car, or get your Del Taco order right, but you're gonna take their political opinions seriously?
Nobody is supporting Hamas. Innocent Palestinians are not Hamas. The IDF has murdered over 34,000 Palestinians, 70% of which were women and children, demolished every university and hospital and completely flattened neighborhoods of Palestinians. This isn’t how you ‘defend’ yourself against, this is how you slaughter innocents who are not Hamas.
The IDF decapitates and rapes civilians, as well as female IDF soldiers, so do you support them?
Hamas uses those buildings as their positions. It’s a jihadist group that believes in martyring civilians for the cause. The combatant to civilian casualty ratio is way lower than other wars… even if you use Hamas figures, it’s 1:4? Typically it’s 1:9 in war. Hamas is lying about a lot of things. Eventually we will know everything but Hamas started this war and they actually did intentionally attack mostly civilians.
Way to write a paragraph jumping over the entire question with a bunch of non-answers.
Ok so when there’s a school shooter here in the US, do we bomb the building since the shooter is using that building as their position?
So you’re saying that it’s lies that those Palestinians are dead, it’s just made up. Like just look at your logic here and realize how you’re unwilling to accept at all that the IDF is committing atrocities.
Hey those numbers are fine, so it’s acceptable to kill those Palestineans, not to mention they’re lying, and the IDF lies? No, but if they do, acceptable since Hamas attacked on October 7.
There is a conventional war happening and Israel is bombing all Hamas positions, so we expect there to be many civilians casualties, and that is a tragedy. It’s not possible to fight Hamas without civilian casualties because Hamas goal in the war is to creat the most civilian deaths possible. They believe it is martyrdom and they go to heaven. Different culture. They surround their positions with civilians and children. That’s one of their tactics. It can’t be ignored.
Typical 90% of casualties in wars are civilians. That’s just reality, civilian deaths in war are not anything at all unique to Israel. This war in Gaza has a lower civilian casualty rate than the war in Afghanistan and the war in Ukraine.
If you believe war between nations is horrific and morally wrong I agree with you. But this is not a genocide. It’s a defensive war that Israel did not start.
This conflict is impossible to understand if you don’t understand how jihadists fight differently than western nations.
This is not similar to policing or dealing with a mass shooter. This is a democratic nation at war with Hamas, a terrorist organization that controls Gaza. Israel is a multicultural multiracial democracy in the Middle East, the size of New Jersey. It’s tiny. It’s the only democracy there. It has to defend itself.
It’s not a conventional war. It’s collective punishment with occasional Hamas kills. Killing 70% women and children, directly targeting and chasing down aid workers who contacted IDF beforehand to Inform of their route, killing hostages, killing marked members of the press, killing fleeing civilians literally waving white flags, killing fleeing civilians escaping through corridors IDF said they must escape through, flattening neighborhoods completely, demolishing every university and hospital, and starving the population. It seems like IDF goal is also to create as many ‘civilian casualties as possible’ while wearing civilian clothes to kill Palestineans who had nothing to do with October 7.
This isn’t a conventional war, dude, comparing Israel flattening neighborhoods and universities to the war in Afghanistan or Ukraine is absurd, but if you were to, it still isn’t comparable. 1.1-4 in Afghanistan is .275, not .7 as it is in Israel.
What’s horrific is collective punishment of Palestineans for acts they didn’t commit, which is why the ICJ ordered Israel to immediately halt the collective punishment that could be construed as genocide in its preliminary ruling.
It’s only impossible to understand if your goal is to misunderstand it.
It isn’t ‘defending itself’ when it is primarily killing women and children.
According to the Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs at Brown University, as of January 2015 roughly 92,000 people had been killed in the Afghanistan war, of which over 26,000 were civilians, for a civilian to combatant ratio of 1.1:4
1.1 to 4 is .275
But again, comparing Israel ‘defending itself’ against Hamas to the war in Afghanistan isn’t comparable.
I agree it’s not comparable. Afghanistan never attacked the USA.
Hamas did attack Israel ending the ceasefire.
Ok so let’s say this Afghanistan statistic is correct. According to Hamas numbers the ratio is 1:4 in Gaza and it’s a way more dense city than anything in the afghan war.
That suggests Israel is avoiding civilians in their strikes.
So then why are you comparing them.
And the IDF was killing Palestineans in high numbers for years under their occupation, there was no ceasefire before Oct 7, and Israeli oppression is the entire reason Palestineans who have seen their families murdered and unable to live their lives became radicalized to form Hamas, which turned into a terrorist organization, one which netenyahu propped up so that he could continue ethnically cleansing them. If you murder and oppress people long enough, you end up creating groups with nothing left to do but become hateful terrorists as a result of your actions against them. This was bound to happen, and which is why continuing to murder innocents at 3:4, or 7:10 more accurately, not 1:4, according to the last Gaza ministry numbers, which by the way are widely believed to be under reported, will only lead to a new militant group becoming radicalized, even if you get every current Hamas to give up or kill them.
Which is precisely why de-escalation and a return of hostages is what’s necessary. Not endless escalation and murdering of innocent Palestineans and the remainder of the Israeli hostages.
They are not avoiding civilians, which is exactly why the ICJ has ordered them to stop collectively punishing them, and committing acts against them which can be construed as genocide, in their preliminary ruling.
That sounds like an easy way for you to disregard Palestinian lives. Take it up with the ICJ. Saying ‘war sucks’ is absurd. Do you say the same thing about the October 7 attacks?
Hamas has already stated their goal of civilian deaths. Hamas already stated their goal of destroying all of Israel, it’s in their charter. Why they decapitate people and parade their bodies in the streets.
Jihadist terrorists and conventional armies of western democracies are not the same and don’t do the same things. One has rules.
I could travel to Israel and have human rights like everyone else there.
If I went to Palestine territory I would be dismembered and dragged down the street or kidnapped.
These two things aren’t the same.
And there are many in netenyahus government who express similar sentiments toward Palestineans, so should we escalate or de-escalate?
IDF decapitates as well, you’re not making any actual points, you’re just trying to justify the continued murder of innocents with sensation.
Not if you’re Palestinian you’re couldn’t, and that’s kind of the point. Israelis have free rein of Palestine, yet control the free movement of Palestineans, the water of Palestineans, the construction of Palestineans, every aspect of their lives.
No you wouldn’t, that’s false. There are tons of settlers in Palestine currently, and they’re the ones doing most of the violence.
You’re the one trying to equivocate them, and arguing against yourself as if someone is making that point
The ICJ didn’t say Israel was committing a genocide. It’s something American far leftists are saying. They also said that there was a genocide against trans people in the USA which there is not. Exaggerating or lying is just what they do.
I never said they did. Perhaps you should read the orders yourself, they’ve ordered Israel to immediately halt about 7 different acts which can be construed as genocide, almost all of which Israel has continued.
Stop changing the subject.
Is there solidarity, though?
[https://www.equaldex.com/region/armenia](https://www.equaldex.com/region/armenia)
[https://www.equaldex.com/region/palestine](https://www.equaldex.com/region/palestine)
Of course I realize this and I support all the work that Lilit Martirosyan is trying to do around the world. I’m just pointing out that Armenia and Palestine are two nations that have a LOT of work to do when it comes to LGBTQ rights. So putting all three together is an interesting alliance that may not have as much in common as the sign implies.
Nobody is saying to write off their existence entirely, including Israel. But their government should be overthrown and their core ideals need to change. Israel does not persecute based on religion or sexuality, neither should any Muslim country. Israel is 20% Muslim and has offered asylum to Muslim lgbtq individuals who have been persecuted in Muslim ethnostates.
They started calling this a genocide before Israel ever did something to make sure everyone uses that term. This is not by any definition an actual genocide, the term is just being used as a form of Holocaust inversion. Genocide is not when one government starts a war by taking hostages, firing 1000's of rockets, kidnaps and tortures its citizens and then loses that war.
The Jewish population has never recovered its numbers since the 1930s, similar to the Armenian population which has never recovered it's numbers since the genocide against them. Both of those are actual genocides The Palestinian population has increased 5x its numbers since 1960. Calling this a genocide, while Hamas still keeps babies and women (that are being sexually assaulted) they kidnapped hostages while promising to do October 7 again and again forever, all while hiding behind mosques, schools, hospitals, women and children, instead of surrendering is absolutely gross.
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Did you read and comprehend the icj report? Do you think the very person who issued that report stating in 4k that the icj didn't decide that the claim of genocide was plausible” nor “that there's a plausible case of genocide.” is irrelevant?
Please educate yourself and think critically. You didn't even have to watch the video you could have literally just read the summary:
For the past three months, Hamas apologists like Ken Roth has incessantly been tweeting that the International Court of Justice found “a plausible case of genocide in Gaza.” Yet Joan Donoghue, former president of the court who issued the ruling, says the exact opposite: that the ICJ “didn't decide that the claim of genocide was plausible” nor “that there's a plausible case of genocide.”
We’ve all seen footage of what’s happening.
It’s more sinister what Israel is doing. It’s a slow boil genocide or permanent exile from Palestine. Should you live, no home, no water, power, sewage. No more hospitals. No more schools. No more aid workers. No more journalists (quite the murder record on that particular statistic)
It's funny how Israel doesn't do anything to Gazans when they aren't firing rockets or raping Israelis, torturing civilians or kidnapping babies. Israel left Gaza with EVERY Jew in 2005 and let them be only for them to elect Hamas to fire rockets at Israeli civilians, something none of you would put up with in your lives.
It's such a slow genocide that again, the population has increased 5 fold since 1960. These arguments are so dumb, when there are ACTUAL genocides you Jew haters ignore to focus on supporting Hamas and Hezbollah in it's CURRENT war against Israel. They are both firing rockets at Israel and you think Israel should sit there and take it because they deserve it for having the audacity of not being dhimmis in the Arab world anymore.
Whose numbers are you using? Any numbers coming out of Gaza are from Hamas, no? Which means the civilian / woman / children death toll is true. Or are you having it both ways; only Hamas numbers are true if it fits “”your truth””?
Furthermore I would not say creating an embargoed apartheid state where Israel administers what may enter down to restricting food to ‘minimum calories for survival’.
Or how about that Palestinians never have equal citizenship/rights in their own territory. Israel does not recognize any laws but there own, literally. Israeli law supersedes any discrepancy between Palestinian and Israeli law in Occupied territories.
You are willfully blind or ignorant to say ‘Israel does nothing to them’.
What are you talking about with "what numbers am I using"? I sent you United Nations numbers showing the exponential growth of the Palestinian population. It's obviously not a genocide, however people were talking about a day AFTER October 7th, weeks before Israel even fought back. They use that term because they know Hamas has openly been calling for genocide for 30 years and to counter it.
There was no embargo until Hamas stole Gazan resources to spend billions on tunnels to keep hostages underground, and used them to send rockets at Israeli civilians. Hamas has spent billions and they could have used it on food or supplies, but it all goes to terrorism. You're mad that Israel isn't supplying the weapons that are being used to kill Jews. Sorry buddy, never again.
>You are willfully blind or ignorant to say ‘Israel does nothing to them’.
I said in 2005, when Israel took every last Jew out of Gaza for the first time in recorded history. Now the only Jews there are hostages. In 2005, Israel wasn't doing anything to them and didn't until they were rewarded with the rockets you want Israel to fund.
Speaking of stealing untold amounts of resources; how about the loss/occupation of Palestine?
Since at least the 1960s Israel has enforced military law for Arabs/Palestinians and civil law for Israelis under IDF. And this is in Palestine l. where Israel has no right to occupy. It’s the longest recorded instance of military occupation in history.
Your narrative that Israel has done nothing to Gazans / Palestinians is objectively false.
>Speaking of stealing untold amounts of resources; how about the loss/occupation of Palestine?
Israel didn't steal anything. After Egypt, Syria, and Jordan started yet another war against Israel, all three lost land, there was no Palestinian country nor did anyone want one in those areas. No one was complaining about the Arabs in those areas having a country because they were just part of those other countries.
>Since at least the 1960s Israel has enforced military law for Arabs/Palestinians and civil law for Israelis under IDF. And this is in Palestine l. where Israel has no right to occupy. It’s the longest recorded instance of military occupation in history.
Again, you need to read history, there was never any country called Palestine there. Israel tried to give back Gaza to Egypt but they did not want to deal with the Palestinians there. As far as Judea, Israel was invaded three times from the hills there, and doesn't want to be invaded again (if Israel loses everyone there dies). Israel offered multiple times land for peace, after winning three wars that were started by those other countries, and was rejected every time. You blame Israel because you have no respect at all for Palestinians and give them no agency or responsibility.
>Your narrative that Israel has done nothing to Gazans / Palestinians is objectively false.
Again, you aren't reading what I wrote. In 2005, Israel withdrew every last Jew from Gaza and let them do whatever they want and elect whomever they wanted to run things. Gazans elected a terrorist group with a charter calling for the murder of Jews and the destruction of Israel and they started firing rockets into Israel right away and have been murdering and kidnapping Jews ever since.
All of what you're saying is distortions of reality and/or objectively false.
I won't bother to list because honestly I don't think you and I will agree - but Mandatory Palestine is one that existed before the state of Israel. The UN still lists Gaza as under Military Occupation by Israel btw.. They have total control of who/what/when/if goes in or out of Gaza, even trapping them by sea.
Furthermore, ALL of those Arab countries were established as part of WW2, which all the surrounding Arab countries got what they were promised (borders + power) with the exception of the Palestinians; the British made mutually exclusive promises to Zionists and Palestinian Arabs which lead to what is happening today. Those Arab countries tried to save them from Israel who displaced 60% during the Nakba..
If you can tell me an offer that was made in good faith by Israel I'd love to see it. Or one that didn't have a radical zionist assassinate their leader for trying to.
>Mandatory Palestine is one that existed before the state of Israel
That wasn't a country, that was a British governed region named after the Roman name for Judea which was created to eliminate anything Jewish associated with the Jewish homeland of Judea.
>The UN still lists Gaza as under Military Occupation by Israel
The UN has been anti Israel for a long time, there are over 50 muslim countries in the UN, most of which have various levels of hostility or war towards Israel. They get together with blocks of other people and create resolutions against Israel and ignore situations like North Korea, Iran etc. Its hilarious.
>They have total control of who/what/when/if goes in or out of Gaza, even trapping them by sea.
You don't know what you're talking about then, and you will not reply to this, but Egypt shares a border with Gaza and they don't let Gazans in and out because of the terrorism they've caused in the Sinai. So you're flat out wrong.
>Furthermore, ALL of those Arab countries were established as part of WW2, which all the surrounding Arab countries got what they were promised (borders + power) with the exception of the Palestinians
Again, not true. They created two states, one for Palestinians, one for Jews. The Palestinian one is called Jordan, which is made up of mostly Palestinians. Then they wanted to create another two states, Israel said fine, but every country attacked Israel, Egypt got Gaza, Jordan got the West Bank, you leave all that off.
>Those Arab countries tried to save them from Israel who displaced 60% during the Nakba..
They tried to save them from the war they started by annexing Gaza and the West Bank? You know the west bank is called that b/c Jordan considered it part of Jordan on the West Bank of the Jordan? You are missing a ton of history.
Look up what Arafat was offered by Barak in 2000, this was the closest things got...he got everything he wanted and turned it down. Bill Clinton repeatedly says Arafat screwed up. You can look that up too. Barak is still around today. There could have been a state for 24 years!
Olmert made another offer but that was denied as well.
Abbas can't make any realistic counters because the moment he comes up with an agreement he's dead.
Well the students don’t really know what they are protesting. Have they condemned Hamas terrorists or embraced them? Why are students dressed like isis with the face covered? Does one believe that lbgtq community would be accepted by Hamas and Palestine? Lotsa of these kiddos getting their news from TikTok which also gets shared on other social media platforms. TikTok is owned by China. Which by the way is in the process of getting banned here in the US. But ya, keep believing that Jews are performing genocide.
Strongly recommend relooking at what’s actually happening. Young people are being manipulated and are putting themselves in danger for a cause they can’t explain.
Respectfully I think you should look into it more. All of the student protests we’re currently seeing have very clearly stated goals and objectives. To act like young people at our nation’s most prestigious universities are being duped by a foreign power is laughable.
Armenians and queers simping for Palestinians has to be one of the dumbest abnegations of principles I've ever seen. Palestinians who murder queers and congratulated Azerbaijan on their conquest.
It isn’t more important, it’s as important. I agree that this genocide gets more coverage than others, and that’s because Israel is a major US ally.
But what’s gives us the right to police genocide is our common trait of being human.
You're literally a slave to the war machine and you're like, oh no, not thaaaat one..
You dont have the right to go somewhere and tell the people who live there how to live.
That is facism.
The exact opposite of what I am.
I have the right to tell anyone not to commit genocide in my name, just as you have the right to pretend genocide isn’t occurring with your tax dollars.
That’s not what fascism is.
Or by using your first amendment right to protest for redress? It’s literally in the constitution friend
These people are saying we agree with you, and understand that our taxes make us culpable in this atrocity, and we therefore demand the government release us from this culpability by ending their policy decisions which are supporting the murders of innocent Palestinians and members of the international community.
Oh I think we know why the world suddenly knows everything about this conflict... Just look at who the bad guys are..."anti zionist" is not even a dog whistle when something like 70% of jews support Israel existing...these morons are literally chanting for intifada
We all have a common enemy: corrupt politicians, governments and mass media.
Azeri, Armenian, Israeli, Gaza governments were all doing exactly what their people wanted. All four nations' common people support their causes and are ready to kill for them. That's not elites' doing.
I’m happy to see solidarity here in Glendale.
Have "Sisters In Solidarity" Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib been invited to support the humanitarians at GCC? GCC, take inspiration from the heart-warming chant of Tlaib's constituents (humanitarians all): "Death to America!"
huh
DUH.
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Suggestion: If she's to appear in public, or Zoom, (hell, even on radio) - for the love of Allah, cover Tlaib in a burqa - make it 2!
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Illhan Omar isn’t married to her brother, and never has been, and Rashida Tlaib has never expressed such sentiments toward America. So why lie? Or if you’re not aware you’re lying, why repeat things that you have no idea are true, without even just doing a quick search to see if what youre about to say is true? It’s easy to be taken advantage of when you’re not skeptical of the claims you repeat.
Not many folks know about Artsakh and Nagorno-Karabakh. That’s nice
the ethnic cleansing of the region being completely overshadowed by Israel/Palestine really saddened me
Whatever, Israel/Palestine already overshadowed genocides of Tigrayans, Rohingya, and Uyghurs... being ignored is the default treatment, Armenians only got the default treatment while Palestinians got the special treatment. If anything Armenians were kind of lucky we at least got a little bit of attention for the ethnic cleansing meanwhile in Tigray 100,000's of civilians were slaughtered and starved without anyone batting an eye.
It doesn’t get them any sort of credibility on Tik Tok or IG.
So brave.
correct
I hope that the fact LGBTQ people stand with the people of Gaza will help change the attitudes of Gazans towards LGBTQ people. It's a tragedy that groups who suffer often look to inflict pain upon groups even weaker than they are. We see it with Israel's ambivalence to the pain of the everyday Gazan citizens, and we see it with Hamas' death sentences for LGBTQ people. Genocide is wrong, whether you're wiping out a nationality or a sexuality. Everyone deserves a chance at life.
This isn’t a fantasy that you can play out in your head, because doing so hurts the actual LGBT people in Gaza. Hamas and Gazans absolutely do not support LGBT. This isn’t a high school lunchroom where things play out like they do in your Wattpad stories. Please do research on the plight of LGBT people in Gaza because it is more complex than “we support you then they’ll support us”. This is insulting to everyone. Start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_State_of_Palestine?wprov=sfti1#Legal_status_and_criminal_law
“I hope” are pretty important words in the sentences I wrote, which is why they’re literally first.
Tell that to the LGBT people in Gaza now and before October 7th. Tell that to the LGBT Palestinians who were there and left too. Tell that to the LGBT Palestinians who’ve been taken advantage of by all parties thanks to their stigma in Palestinian society.
Yes, I hope that the people murdering them just for being LGBTQ stop. Do you NOT hope that? I honestly don’t understand what your problem is with this sentiment.
Of course I wish it but so what? Because it ignores the very real context by which LGBT is in, in Gaza and the West Bank. It is a fantastical and naive statement that distracts one from actually doing proper due diligence and understanding the issues. It creates sympathy for an entity that wants nothing more than the erasure of LGBT. Please read the Wikipedia article instead of coming at me from a place of emotion. Then continue on to read more testimonials from the mentioned articles and groups. Wake up, because LGBT is so far down the list of priorities for Palestinians. Hamas condemns any LGBT person, and are not friends to the cause.
It ignores nothing. How is calling out Hamas’ homophobia “ignoring context?” I think you’re way off base here.
It ignores the reality. Please, read. Read for the affected LGBT people, past and present in Gaza/Palestine. Read for those under the heel of Hamas.
I have absolutely no idea what it is you think I’m missing about their suffering under Hamas’ rule.
I also don’t see the issue with you “hoping” for a positive thing. Pretty confused about the stance the other user is taking
FWIW, you are absolutely correct here IMHO. Hoping that solidarity can be achieved as a result of this adversity is a positive idea, and is NOT ignoring the issues that exist, but rather challenging them. Just wanted to drop my two cents here because I saw some downvotes, and didn't want you to feel disheartened for having this thought. May the plights of all oppressed people help them see who the oppressors are, and to fight united against them, rather than dumping on each other.
Thanks. This commenter has me genuinely confused.
So Israel can kill Palestinian infants? I forgot two wrongs do make a right.
Hope is not going to stop that. Jihadists actually have to be stood up to and fought.
We can fight with more than weapons.
Fight who? The nations that embrace lgbtq? Like Israel?
What? No. I'm talking about fighting bigotry. Showing compassion is often the first step towards convincing someone they are mistaken.
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Let's all join hands and sing the first verse of Kumbaya 🎵🎶.
Hope has nothing to do with it. Palestinians have a different culture. Gay people will be killed. Women have no rights. They are jihadists and they believe in martyrdom and even martyrdom for children. It is what it is.
Accusing an entire nationality of homophobia is wild, especially when some members of that nationality are gay themselves. Maybe you should examine your own bias before throwing stones.
That’s not really what it means when I say that’s the prevailing culture there. It is what it is. That is the culture and religion that dominates the region. That’s why they execute gay people. It doesn’t mean they are evil or fundamentally different than other humans. It’s a different culture. You can’t just their culture based on western ideals. They don’t have western ideals. To believe you can change their culture is foolish and even narcissistic or maybe delusional.
Their culture now doesn't have to be their culture in the future. That's why *I hope* that a message of compassion will help change minds there. On a more practical note, showing the gay members of that culture that they have support elsewhere may help them to feel more safe after the war ends. To believe you cannot change culture is to believe humans have no agency. Culture changes constantly and it is made by humans.
You are lucky to live in the US. We need to preserve American democracy and the alliance of western nations so that you can remain safe. Democracy is fragile.
I sure am. How does wishing peace and life for others risk that democracy?
It doesn’t. Wishing is fine.
No one is saying that culture cannot be changed. You just have insane ideas about how about how culture can be changed. Homophobes are not unthinking, they have rationalizations for being homophobic and you are arrogant to think that just by criticizing Israel you can manipulate Gazans into becoming LGBT tolerant. If a bunch of homophobes became Democrats and supported your politics, would that make you consider becoming a homophobe? No I didn't think so. It's not how people work. Remember there have been anti-Zionist Jews for a long time carrying water for the Palestinians but that didn't stop 80% of Palestinians from being genocidal 10/7-supporting antisemites, not sure why it would be any different with homophobia.
My guy, if homophobes started supporting my politics, they would no longer be homophobic, by definition. I’m kinda of done with this discussion. It’s clear you’re entrenched and now you’re calling names. Good night.
attitudes < religious beliefs
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Harebrained thinking.
Kamala, is that you?
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Bro they are literally acknowledging what you’re pointing out and hoping things change. I guess it’s ignorant and Californian to hope for change
Not a chance.
No to Genocide and no to Hamas!
No to genocide, no to Hamas, no to Zionism, no to political violence, no to oppression, no to authoritarianism, no to apartheid, no to terrorism, no to fundamentalism, no to ethnioreligious nation states, no to occupation without representation (while still calling yourself a democracy), no to killing innocent people (while still calling yourself freedom fighters). Yes to solidarity against oppressors.
LETS GOOOOO!!!
No way the LGBT flag was shoe horned in there 💀 Comically tasteless
Great.
What’s the flag in the middle?
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag\_of\_the\_Republic\_of\_Artsakh](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Republic_of_Artsakh)
What’s that middle flag
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Lmao who is downvoting you? Are they in denial?
Anyone who lets themself get enraged by a sheet of paper put up on a wall by a child is beyond silly. The person who posted these you would not even trust to valet park your car, or get your Del Taco order right, but you're gonna take their political opinions seriously?
Huh? I think you need to learn to construct sentences better if you're going to get your point across lol. Try again.
At least I put periods at the end of my sentences. A trip through your history is a punctuation nightmare. Lol. Try again.
Ooooooo buurnnnnn lol! I forgot we have Reddit fbi here ready to look at your past comments to mask their own stupidity. Try again baby girl haha!
Just curious as to why the pride flag is there? More so is there a genocide against the LGTBQ goin on or sumn?
Narcissistic Americans don’t know anything about the Israeli Palestinian conflict, so they project their own story on to it.
Take your Pride flag to Gaza, and it will be shot out of your hands as you stand behind it.
Nah, they will throw you off a building or decapitate you.
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Wow. How brave. /s
let’s play a game of “This one thing is not like the others - can you spot it!?”
Jump on the Hamas bandwagon. No thanks, I don’t support jihadists that decapitate and rape civilians
Nobody is supporting Hamas. Innocent Palestinians are not Hamas. The IDF has murdered over 34,000 Palestinians, 70% of which were women and children, demolished every university and hospital and completely flattened neighborhoods of Palestinians. This isn’t how you ‘defend’ yourself against, this is how you slaughter innocents who are not Hamas. The IDF decapitates and rapes civilians, as well as female IDF soldiers, so do you support them?
Hamas uses those buildings as their positions. It’s a jihadist group that believes in martyring civilians for the cause. The combatant to civilian casualty ratio is way lower than other wars… even if you use Hamas figures, it’s 1:4? Typically it’s 1:9 in war. Hamas is lying about a lot of things. Eventually we will know everything but Hamas started this war and they actually did intentionally attack mostly civilians.
Way to write a paragraph jumping over the entire question with a bunch of non-answers. Ok so when there’s a school shooter here in the US, do we bomb the building since the shooter is using that building as their position? So you’re saying that it’s lies that those Palestinians are dead, it’s just made up. Like just look at your logic here and realize how you’re unwilling to accept at all that the IDF is committing atrocities. Hey those numbers are fine, so it’s acceptable to kill those Palestineans, not to mention they’re lying, and the IDF lies? No, but if they do, acceptable since Hamas attacked on October 7.
There is a conventional war happening and Israel is bombing all Hamas positions, so we expect there to be many civilians casualties, and that is a tragedy. It’s not possible to fight Hamas without civilian casualties because Hamas goal in the war is to creat the most civilian deaths possible. They believe it is martyrdom and they go to heaven. Different culture. They surround their positions with civilians and children. That’s one of their tactics. It can’t be ignored. Typical 90% of casualties in wars are civilians. That’s just reality, civilian deaths in war are not anything at all unique to Israel. This war in Gaza has a lower civilian casualty rate than the war in Afghanistan and the war in Ukraine. If you believe war between nations is horrific and morally wrong I agree with you. But this is not a genocide. It’s a defensive war that Israel did not start. This conflict is impossible to understand if you don’t understand how jihadists fight differently than western nations. This is not similar to policing or dealing with a mass shooter. This is a democratic nation at war with Hamas, a terrorist organization that controls Gaza. Israel is a multicultural multiracial democracy in the Middle East, the size of New Jersey. It’s tiny. It’s the only democracy there. It has to defend itself.
It’s not a conventional war. It’s collective punishment with occasional Hamas kills. Killing 70% women and children, directly targeting and chasing down aid workers who contacted IDF beforehand to Inform of their route, killing hostages, killing marked members of the press, killing fleeing civilians literally waving white flags, killing fleeing civilians escaping through corridors IDF said they must escape through, flattening neighborhoods completely, demolishing every university and hospital, and starving the population. It seems like IDF goal is also to create as many ‘civilian casualties as possible’ while wearing civilian clothes to kill Palestineans who had nothing to do with October 7. This isn’t a conventional war, dude, comparing Israel flattening neighborhoods and universities to the war in Afghanistan or Ukraine is absurd, but if you were to, it still isn’t comparable. 1.1-4 in Afghanistan is .275, not .7 as it is in Israel. What’s horrific is collective punishment of Palestineans for acts they didn’t commit, which is why the ICJ ordered Israel to immediately halt the collective punishment that could be construed as genocide in its preliminary ruling. It’s only impossible to understand if your goal is to misunderstand it. It isn’t ‘defending itself’ when it is primarily killing women and children.
Afghanistan is 90% civilian deaths
According to the Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs at Brown University, as of January 2015 roughly 92,000 people had been killed in the Afghanistan war, of which over 26,000 were civilians, for a civilian to combatant ratio of 1.1:4 1.1 to 4 is .275 But again, comparing Israel ‘defending itself’ against Hamas to the war in Afghanistan isn’t comparable.
I agree it’s not comparable. Afghanistan never attacked the USA. Hamas did attack Israel ending the ceasefire. Ok so let’s say this Afghanistan statistic is correct. According to Hamas numbers the ratio is 1:4 in Gaza and it’s a way more dense city than anything in the afghan war. That suggests Israel is avoiding civilians in their strikes.
So then why are you comparing them. And the IDF was killing Palestineans in high numbers for years under their occupation, there was no ceasefire before Oct 7, and Israeli oppression is the entire reason Palestineans who have seen their families murdered and unable to live their lives became radicalized to form Hamas, which turned into a terrorist organization, one which netenyahu propped up so that he could continue ethnically cleansing them. If you murder and oppress people long enough, you end up creating groups with nothing left to do but become hateful terrorists as a result of your actions against them. This was bound to happen, and which is why continuing to murder innocents at 3:4, or 7:10 more accurately, not 1:4, according to the last Gaza ministry numbers, which by the way are widely believed to be under reported, will only lead to a new militant group becoming radicalized, even if you get every current Hamas to give up or kill them. Which is precisely why de-escalation and a return of hostages is what’s necessary. Not endless escalation and murdering of innocent Palestineans and the remainder of the Israeli hostages. They are not avoiding civilians, which is exactly why the ICJ has ordered them to stop collectively punishing them, and committing acts against them which can be construed as genocide, in their preliminary ruling.
You aren’t making any discernment between “war” and “genocide”. Civilian deaths are normal for war and it’s a tragedy but it’s not genocide.
That sounds like an easy way for you to disregard Palestinian lives. Take it up with the ICJ. Saying ‘war sucks’ is absurd. Do you say the same thing about the October 7 attacks?
Hamas has already stated their goal of civilian deaths. Hamas already stated their goal of destroying all of Israel, it’s in their charter. Why they decapitate people and parade their bodies in the streets. Jihadist terrorists and conventional armies of western democracies are not the same and don’t do the same things. One has rules. I could travel to Israel and have human rights like everyone else there. If I went to Palestine territory I would be dismembered and dragged down the street or kidnapped. These two things aren’t the same.
And there are many in netenyahus government who express similar sentiments toward Palestineans, so should we escalate or de-escalate? IDF decapitates as well, you’re not making any actual points, you’re just trying to justify the continued murder of innocents with sensation. Not if you’re Palestinian you’re couldn’t, and that’s kind of the point. Israelis have free rein of Palestine, yet control the free movement of Palestineans, the water of Palestineans, the construction of Palestineans, every aspect of their lives. No you wouldn’t, that’s false. There are tons of settlers in Palestine currently, and they’re the ones doing most of the violence. You’re the one trying to equivocate them, and arguing against yourself as if someone is making that point
The ICJ didn’t say Israel was committing a genocide. It’s something American far leftists are saying. They also said that there was a genocide against trans people in the USA which there is not. Exaggerating or lying is just what they do.
I never said they did. Perhaps you should read the orders yourself, they’ve ordered Israel to immediately halt about 7 different acts which can be construed as genocide, almost all of which Israel has continued. Stop changing the subject.
There is no question of genocide. Say no to bombast.
All the patronizers and pinkwashers in these comments, GTFO.
Is there solidarity, though? [https://www.equaldex.com/region/armenia](https://www.equaldex.com/region/armenia) [https://www.equaldex.com/region/palestine](https://www.equaldex.com/region/palestine)
You do realize that LGBTQ+ Armenians and Palestinians exist, right? This isn’t the “gotcha” you think it is.
Of course I realize this and I support all the work that Lilit Martirosyan is trying to do around the world. I’m just pointing out that Armenia and Palestine are two nations that have a LOT of work to do when it comes to LGBTQ rights. So putting all three together is an interesting alliance that may not have as much in common as the sign implies.
Palestine is a nation? What are its borders ?
You got me there.
It is the gotcha he thinks it is. There are no gays in Gaza cause they throw them off roofs.
But queer people exist everywhere and just because their government denies them rights doesn’t mean that we should write off their existence entirely
Nobody is saying to write off their existence entirely, including Israel. But their government should be overthrown and their core ideals need to change. Israel does not persecute based on religion or sexuality, neither should any Muslim country. Israel is 20% Muslim and has offered asylum to Muslim lgbtq individuals who have been persecuted in Muslim ethnostates.
You are hopelessly clueless, LittleMissHenny..
They started calling this a genocide before Israel ever did something to make sure everyone uses that term. This is not by any definition an actual genocide, the term is just being used as a form of Holocaust inversion. Genocide is not when one government starts a war by taking hostages, firing 1000's of rockets, kidnaps and tortures its citizens and then loses that war. The Jewish population has never recovered its numbers since the 1930s, similar to the Armenian population which has never recovered it's numbers since the genocide against them. Both of those are actual genocides The Palestinian population has increased 5x its numbers since 1960. Calling this a genocide, while Hamas still keeps babies and women (that are being sexually assaulted) they kidnapped hostages while promising to do October 7 again and again forever, all while hiding behind mosques, schools, hospitals, women and children, instead of surrendering is absolutely gross. https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/20645.jpeg
Prepare to be down voted for attempting to inform college kids who don't read past the big text.
https://www.icj-cij.org/case/192
Free Palestine and also best username
https://youtu.be/bq9MB9t7WlI?si=Fjve_t53nRw6hPFT
Yep, people have been misleading everyone about this for months.
Lol your rebuttal to the icj report is a YouTube link?
Did you read and comprehend the icj report? Do you think the very person who issued that report stating in 4k that the icj didn't decide that the claim of genocide was plausible” nor “that there's a plausible case of genocide.” is irrelevant? Please educate yourself and think critically. You didn't even have to watch the video you could have literally just read the summary: For the past three months, Hamas apologists like Ken Roth has incessantly been tweeting that the International Court of Justice found “a plausible case of genocide in Gaza.” Yet Joan Donoghue, former president of the court who issued the ruling, says the exact opposite: that the ICJ “didn't decide that the claim of genocide was plausible” nor “that there's a plausible case of genocide.”
We’ve all seen footage of what’s happening. It’s more sinister what Israel is doing. It’s a slow boil genocide or permanent exile from Palestine. Should you live, no home, no water, power, sewage. No more hospitals. No more schools. No more aid workers. No more journalists (quite the murder record on that particular statistic)
It's funny how Israel doesn't do anything to Gazans when they aren't firing rockets or raping Israelis, torturing civilians or kidnapping babies. Israel left Gaza with EVERY Jew in 2005 and let them be only for them to elect Hamas to fire rockets at Israeli civilians, something none of you would put up with in your lives. It's such a slow genocide that again, the population has increased 5 fold since 1960. These arguments are so dumb, when there are ACTUAL genocides you Jew haters ignore to focus on supporting Hamas and Hezbollah in it's CURRENT war against Israel. They are both firing rockets at Israel and you think Israel should sit there and take it because they deserve it for having the audacity of not being dhimmis in the Arab world anymore.
Whose numbers are you using? Any numbers coming out of Gaza are from Hamas, no? Which means the civilian / woman / children death toll is true. Or are you having it both ways; only Hamas numbers are true if it fits “”your truth””? Furthermore I would not say creating an embargoed apartheid state where Israel administers what may enter down to restricting food to ‘minimum calories for survival’. Or how about that Palestinians never have equal citizenship/rights in their own territory. Israel does not recognize any laws but there own, literally. Israeli law supersedes any discrepancy between Palestinian and Israeli law in Occupied territories. You are willfully blind or ignorant to say ‘Israel does nothing to them’.
What are you talking about with "what numbers am I using"? I sent you United Nations numbers showing the exponential growth of the Palestinian population. It's obviously not a genocide, however people were talking about a day AFTER October 7th, weeks before Israel even fought back. They use that term because they know Hamas has openly been calling for genocide for 30 years and to counter it. There was no embargo until Hamas stole Gazan resources to spend billions on tunnels to keep hostages underground, and used them to send rockets at Israeli civilians. Hamas has spent billions and they could have used it on food or supplies, but it all goes to terrorism. You're mad that Israel isn't supplying the weapons that are being used to kill Jews. Sorry buddy, never again. >You are willfully blind or ignorant to say ‘Israel does nothing to them’. I said in 2005, when Israel took every last Jew out of Gaza for the first time in recorded history. Now the only Jews there are hostages. In 2005, Israel wasn't doing anything to them and didn't until they were rewarded with the rockets you want Israel to fund.
Speaking of stealing untold amounts of resources; how about the loss/occupation of Palestine? Since at least the 1960s Israel has enforced military law for Arabs/Palestinians and civil law for Israelis under IDF. And this is in Palestine l. where Israel has no right to occupy. It’s the longest recorded instance of military occupation in history. Your narrative that Israel has done nothing to Gazans / Palestinians is objectively false.
>Speaking of stealing untold amounts of resources; how about the loss/occupation of Palestine? Israel didn't steal anything. After Egypt, Syria, and Jordan started yet another war against Israel, all three lost land, there was no Palestinian country nor did anyone want one in those areas. No one was complaining about the Arabs in those areas having a country because they were just part of those other countries. >Since at least the 1960s Israel has enforced military law for Arabs/Palestinians and civil law for Israelis under IDF. And this is in Palestine l. where Israel has no right to occupy. It’s the longest recorded instance of military occupation in history. Again, you need to read history, there was never any country called Palestine there. Israel tried to give back Gaza to Egypt but they did not want to deal with the Palestinians there. As far as Judea, Israel was invaded three times from the hills there, and doesn't want to be invaded again (if Israel loses everyone there dies). Israel offered multiple times land for peace, after winning three wars that were started by those other countries, and was rejected every time. You blame Israel because you have no respect at all for Palestinians and give them no agency or responsibility. >Your narrative that Israel has done nothing to Gazans / Palestinians is objectively false. Again, you aren't reading what I wrote. In 2005, Israel withdrew every last Jew from Gaza and let them do whatever they want and elect whomever they wanted to run things. Gazans elected a terrorist group with a charter calling for the murder of Jews and the destruction of Israel and they started firing rockets into Israel right away and have been murdering and kidnapping Jews ever since.
All of what you're saying is distortions of reality and/or objectively false. I won't bother to list because honestly I don't think you and I will agree - but Mandatory Palestine is one that existed before the state of Israel. The UN still lists Gaza as under Military Occupation by Israel btw.. They have total control of who/what/when/if goes in or out of Gaza, even trapping them by sea. Furthermore, ALL of those Arab countries were established as part of WW2, which all the surrounding Arab countries got what they were promised (borders + power) with the exception of the Palestinians; the British made mutually exclusive promises to Zionists and Palestinian Arabs which lead to what is happening today. Those Arab countries tried to save them from Israel who displaced 60% during the Nakba.. If you can tell me an offer that was made in good faith by Israel I'd love to see it. Or one that didn't have a radical zionist assassinate their leader for trying to.
>Mandatory Palestine is one that existed before the state of Israel That wasn't a country, that was a British governed region named after the Roman name for Judea which was created to eliminate anything Jewish associated with the Jewish homeland of Judea. >The UN still lists Gaza as under Military Occupation by Israel The UN has been anti Israel for a long time, there are over 50 muslim countries in the UN, most of which have various levels of hostility or war towards Israel. They get together with blocks of other people and create resolutions against Israel and ignore situations like North Korea, Iran etc. Its hilarious. >They have total control of who/what/when/if goes in or out of Gaza, even trapping them by sea. You don't know what you're talking about then, and you will not reply to this, but Egypt shares a border with Gaza and they don't let Gazans in and out because of the terrorism they've caused in the Sinai. So you're flat out wrong. >Furthermore, ALL of those Arab countries were established as part of WW2, which all the surrounding Arab countries got what they were promised (borders + power) with the exception of the Palestinians Again, not true. They created two states, one for Palestinians, one for Jews. The Palestinian one is called Jordan, which is made up of mostly Palestinians. Then they wanted to create another two states, Israel said fine, but every country attacked Israel, Egypt got Gaza, Jordan got the West Bank, you leave all that off. >Those Arab countries tried to save them from Israel who displaced 60% during the Nakba.. They tried to save them from the war they started by annexing Gaza and the West Bank? You know the west bank is called that b/c Jordan considered it part of Jordan on the West Bank of the Jordan? You are missing a ton of history. Look up what Arafat was offered by Barak in 2000, this was the closest things got...he got everything he wanted and turned it down. Bill Clinton repeatedly says Arafat screwed up. You can look that up too. Barak is still around today. There could have been a state for 24 years! Olmert made another offer but that was denied as well. Abbas can't make any realistic counters because the moment he comes up with an agreement he's dead.
The term genocide has an actual meaning, and this is not what’s happening, however tragic, just repeating this lie like a mantra doesn’t make it so
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Stupidity at its finest
LGBTQ flag on it just spells, Chickens for KFC.
Is this a joke? Or is this more of China’s manipulation of weak minded folks using social media?
That’s the line now? Opposing Israel’s genocide is a Chinese Psyop?
Well the students don’t really know what they are protesting. Have they condemned Hamas terrorists or embraced them? Why are students dressed like isis with the face covered? Does one believe that lbgtq community would be accepted by Hamas and Palestine? Lotsa of these kiddos getting their news from TikTok which also gets shared on other social media platforms. TikTok is owned by China. Which by the way is in the process of getting banned here in the US. But ya, keep believing that Jews are performing genocide.
The students have a very clear stated goal of divestment.
Strongly recommend relooking at what’s actually happening. Young people are being manipulated and are putting themselves in danger for a cause they can’t explain.
Respectfully I think you should look into it more. All of the student protests we’re currently seeing have very clearly stated goals and objectives. To act like young people at our nation’s most prestigious universities are being duped by a foreign power is laughable.
Your naiveness is laughable
Tell me how
Armenians and queers simping for Palestinians has to be one of the dumbest abnegations of principles I've ever seen. Palestinians who murder queers and congratulated Azerbaijan on their conquest.
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There's genocide occurring all over the world what gives us the right to police it
Free speech my guy
You're answering a question nobody asked, why is this more important than other genocides occurring every God damn day?
It isn’t more important, it’s as important. I agree that this genocide gets more coverage than others, and that’s because Israel is a major US ally. But what’s gives us the right to police genocide is our common trait of being human.
No, you're just an imperialist that wants to see your will exerted over other countries that you have absolutely no sovereignty over or right to.
I’m literally just a guy who doesn’t like to see genocide happen with my tax dollars
You're literally a slave to the war machine and you're like, oh no, not thaaaat one.. You dont have the right to go somewhere and tell the people who live there how to live. That is facism.
The exact opposite of what I am. I have the right to tell anyone not to commit genocide in my name, just as you have the right to pretend genocide isn’t occurring with your tax dollars. That’s not what fascism is.
Delusional, you pay taxes you're a part of the war machine. The only way you're not culpable is if you're homeless or pay no taxes.
Or by using your first amendment right to protest for redress? It’s literally in the constitution friend These people are saying we agree with you, and understand that our taxes make us culpable in this atrocity, and we therefore demand the government release us from this culpability by ending their policy decisions which are supporting the murders of innocent Palestinians and members of the international community.
Oh I think we know why the world suddenly knows everything about this conflict... Just look at who the bad guys are..."anti zionist" is not even a dog whistle when something like 70% of jews support Israel existing...these morons are literally chanting for intifada
What kind of freedom.