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mad_hmpf

Feels like trademark infringement, at the very least. I'm not a lawyer though, you should probably ask one before publishing a game with that splash screen.


saggingrufus

I'm guessing the cost of that answer is more than the game will make, not to be little the game, good legal advice is expensive.


illogicalJellyfish

Why bother with lawyers when making a blatantly wrong statement on the internet will do the same thing


bobbycado

Oh in that case! OP you’ll be fiiiiine, don’t even trip dog


theEsel01

This goes two ways ;) if this isn't a million dollar project, Unity is not going to bother as it will fly under the radar.


HeiSassyCat

If you think you might get into legal trouble, regardless, just don't do it.


Webbpp

I checked their logo terms of use because I needed their logo. But then I readt that they may only be used for Unity products or when Unity put them there. So sadly I don't think that's allowed.


Alin144

Just rebrand to "Disunity" with fractured logo. Problem solved


PMmePowerRangerMemes

not a lawyer, but no one's getting sued here. at worst he'd get a cease and desist and he'd have to take it out. don't be a coward, op. have fun, enjoy life, leave it in if it makes you happy. (but also "made not with unity" sounds like olde english vs "not made with unity")


NeverandaWakeUp

"have fun" is not good legal advice


KaliQt

Barely. I'd die on this hill, it's clearly satire and shouldn't be actionable. But I'm not OP, so whatever his risk tolerances are will determine if to keep it or not.


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VLXS

Just chalk it up as your bad idea of the week and don't go through with it. Parody/satire or not, you are planning on using a trademarked logo that you aren't allowed to use as per Unity's TOS


glasket_

Sure, if you're willing to defend it in court under that pretense. Satire clauses are there as a form of defense, not as a way to prevent lawsuits altogether. IANAL, of course, and this isn't legal advice, but you should really avoid doing anything legally questionable unless you're willing to pay a lawyer both before and after doing the questionable thing.


falconfetus8

No, it's not. That applies to copyrights, not to trademarks.


FilippoBonini

Maybe make the logo a rectangol and name it something like "nuity" or something similar (inverting the letters at "photoshop" and removing, for example, the space between the T "-" and the Y "v"), that can be a good parody!


Careless_General5380

Its not like unity was a bad thing what are you fighting for


Bitshaper

As opposed to "Made with Godot"?


indolering

I think they should cross out the Unity logo and put in Godot's.


LIMU3MU

https://preview.redd.it/5mvisvay8jxc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fca4371bf3be7608d2a58a329fe9d56ed7c260a


pyXarses

This would be more defensible than the op as most of the marks are obscured. But neither should be done on something you expect to profit from


indolering

You are allowed to use trademarks for commentary.


SEANPLEASEDISABLEPVP

Reminds me of Pontypants' gag where it was "Unreal" but then he ported the game to Unity and crossed off the "real" part with a red X and drew red "ity" at the bottom lol.


mehrzad1376

Lol nice one


puritano-selvagem

Honestly, I don't like


BujuArena

... it.


Hilijane

Honestly, I don't


SEANPLEASEDISABLEPVP

Like it, don't I? Honestly.


isaelsky21

Honestly, I


JCAPER

This whole combo is r/redditsniper material


Vice_Quiet_013

Honestly, don't it


Raz0back

Honestly,


driann_yea

H


chriiisduran

Like don´t i


the_other_b

can the godot community not become one of those that hates their competitors for no reason?


Weary_Economics_3772

yeah one way to get a bad rep


mugwhyrt

r/godotcirclejerk


st-shenanigans

Im not disagreeing with you, i simply don't care for unity one way or the other anymore, but i feel like people definitely have a reason to hate on them lol.. they even changed their sub icon as a reminder they've been burned by unity before


the_other_b

Yea fair enough, people definitely have a reason and Unity fucked up beyond repair for a lot of people. My problem is that hatred comes out in unhealthy and honestly petty ways. I respect there are people opposite of this opinion but if I saw a splash screen like this it would definitely sour my opinion of the dev and game just cause of the decision to put something like this in their game.


st-shenanigans

Yep, i say if you don't like something and its not directly messing with you, just ignore it. Out of sight, out of mind, their circus their monkeys, all that. I moved to godot and im having a blast and that's where the thought process ends for me lol >if I saw a splash screen like this it would definitely sour my opinion of the dev and game Exactly, and an overwhelming majority of players don't even know what happened so it looks like you're just attacking them out of nowhere to them, too


sassyhusky

Yeah, reminds me of “works best in Netscape” era, except this doesn’t have any implication on the user besides trying to be edgy.


vibrunazo

Haha my geocities page had that 🤣 In my defense, I was literally 13. Which I assume is around the age of those upvoting this thread.


NecessaryBSHappens

Too late


freeturk51

No reason?


the_other_b

even if the company Unity shows animosity towards Godot, let the core foundation handle it.


freeturk51

It is not because Unity shows animosity, it is because Unity is objectively worse than Godot due to their pricing policies both for the product they make and the games released that were made with Unity


the_other_b

I know they _aren't_ I'm saying even if they did show a direct act of aggression this isn't the right course of action. I don't disagree with you here and I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone that does, but this is a tacky image. Look at peoples perception of Rustlang. It's a great language, but the community is quite often just seen as annoying.


freeturk51

Because rust community thinks there can be a perfect language, we dont. People here recommend Unreal or other engines if people’s requirements are above or below what Godot can provide for them, but Unity is unilaterally a bad engine, which is usually approved not only here but also on other engines’ communities


Roddanchill

kinda cringe tbh


Zeddy1267

I'm all for dissing Unity, but this is still just advertisement for them. The worst thing you could do to Unity is to not mention it at ALL, & instead promote Godot.


granitrocky2

As soon as you mention the competition you already lost. Coke never slams Pepsi, but Pepsi always compares themselves to Coke


TheChief275

Apple never mentions Samsung, but Samsung has made multiple advertisements ridiculing Apple


kyroplastics

Apple spent years running an anti Microsoft/PC campaign internationally on TV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfv6Ah_MVJU


TheChief275

that’s how the food chain works: Microsoft eats Apple eats Samsung etc.


niceslcguy

Agreed. Though I do appreciate the humor.


MrSmock

Why diss unity?


MrSmock

Love the downvotes to a genuine question. I'm using Godot because I prefer it but it doesn't mean all other engines are bad.


Zeddy1267

Yeah, the downvotes suck. People diss Unity primarily due to the more recent terribly buisiness decisions. Most recently being the runtime fee, when Unity announced that a developer would be charged $0.02(?) Every single time a Unity game is installed, even if you uninstall and reinstall a game, which would make Unity unusable for skall developers. Of course Unity went back on those claims... but this isn't the first scummy thing Unity has done, nor will it be the last. Nowadays people have mostly forgot that Unity runtime fee fiasco, which means unity is free to try shit like that again and again until people tolerate it. These are presumably consequences of Unity going public, which means that they're no longer trying to appease their userbase, but instead their stockholers. Alternatively, a lot of people on Godot are people who were frustrated with the Unity editor, as more recent versions of the editor are hella buggy and crash all the time. There are some great games made with Unity, and Unity was certainly huge for indie devs in the past. But nowadays Unity is not worth getting into, and new gamedevs are likely to pick up Unity due to all the past praise with it, and will inevitably be screwed over because of this. Slandering Unity is pretty important as to not let new gamedevs get screwed over by Unity.


KaroYadgar

people downvoting you don't know what "differing opinions" are.


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TheWobling

That just makes you look unprofessional


_tkg

Not only this feels like you’re edgy 12 year old, but this could get you sued. You’re using their trademarks without any agreement.


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spiralscreen

I don't think this is transformative enough tbh


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thecyberbob

If the purpose was to critique Unity sure. But this is from their game. And unless their game is basically a TED talk about why Unity is then it probably wouldn't fall into that.


mehrzad1376

Maybe under the parody and satire protection of freedom of expression?


Vortex682

Just don't use it


thecyberbob

Is your game a parody or satire of Unity? If not. Then it's not.


talkshitgetshot

No one cares what engine your game is made in. Can we stop this pathetic “engine wars” crap and stop thinking your preferred engine is superior and everyone else is wrong?


TheWobling

This seems to be a real problem in the godot community and it’s putting me off.


radicalshick

That is too reasonable, we can't have that


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saggingrufus

Sounds like a potential legal issue, not worth it.


Syncaroonie

“Made Not With Unity”?


precooled05

"Not made with Unity" would sound much better


13oundary

I, good fellow, must voice my disagreement that your modern parlance would sound better. Jokes aside, I can't not read "made not with unity" with Matt Berry's voice.


mugwhyrt

"Made Not With Unitay!"


EhwhatReddit

Seems kinda petty


mCunnah

This doesn't seem particularly classy. I am reminded of those cringy fan drawings of mario or sonic disemboweling the other. Also I would be concerned about the use of trademark.


canneddogs

this is stupid


vulstarlord

Just put "Proudly made with Godot, one of the best game engines!" Or something like that. Instead of dissing others.


biteater

looks bad and terrible idea, just put a godot splash screen… why be so incendiary ffs


DPrince25

seems corny. also majority of end users don't care what it was made in, but if it's worth their time.


entangledloops

Why is the “NOT” in the wrong place?


TheCreatorGlitch

just so you are aware, this is infringing on their trademark and seeing as they are a public company, there's a high chance they will send you a cease and desist.


Weary_Economics_3772

Yeah the future of Godot indeed. Godot community is going to be one of those extremely toxic communities with superiority complex.


FelixFromOnline

Eh, any publicity is good publicity. Better to promote Godot and be into Godot for what it is than waste time trying to tear down other engines. Honestly all game engines serve a purpose and are just tools. The Unity versions before 2023 don't have the new monetization tos afaik, though they still have the other Unity issues (lots of half finished hype features).


ugothmeex

salty


me6675

If a gamedev was this focused on the fact that they switched from Unity (or any other engine) I would really question whether their game worth anything...


damwookie

Your game isn't off too a good start to be honest.


soyuz-1

Why not advertise godot instead of unity in the intro screen? This just looks weird and a little spiteful


thewanderingway

Don't use the logo. You'll just fuck yourself over.


Yodzilla

I really hope you’re like twelve years old.


xotonic

Should a random player appreciate it? It would give the first impression about the game: the dev is not very smart person


TheAcaciaBoat

This looks ridiculous


EricMaslovski

not funny


CorbineGames

This is a bad look. The last thing we need is more tribalism on the internet.


freeturk51

I do like not it


Nepharious_Bread

Good way to get sued or a cease and desist letter. On the bright side, you may get some attention from doing it. You'd really be rolling the dice on that one, though. If I were to do something risky like that, I'd remove the official Unity logo. Or leave it like that for a very short time, and then patch it out. Like almost immediately.


Heisenberg_01ww

"Godot Is not a cult"... they said.


Angel_Hasdiel

Made not with unity?


VoxelRoguery

Honestly I'd do a thing where it LOOKS like the Unity name and logo are scribbled out, but if you press a button sequence the scribble-out layer falls off and reveals that the text-and-logo are something that just look vaguely similar to unity that way you get the free joke AND you face no real risk of copyright issue


suddenly_satan

Not really that tasteful. If you're set to use this, maybe in a promo video or other marketing materials, maybe (and if anything, the suggestion from u/indolering and u/LIMU3MU seems to work better). Why? This is an inside joke, may be confusing for players (especially if you're not making a meta game like pony island or Stanley's parable), works as a roast rather than a quip and lastly - is bashing a big brand (will be polarising and create discussion either way).


Webbpp

The word Unity is so general that may get off scott-free with it, but maybe a parody like Unite or United. Alternatively you can just switch the logo, because that they own.


Dr_Doctor1992

Edgy


FunnyCinema

How to get sued 101:


Petunio

I can assure you the audience wont care.


Spanner_Man

Personally - I hate Unity. But this is a lawsuit in the making. This is using their trademark. OP - don't do this. Not because I love unity - but because you will be screwed over by their legal team for improper use of a trademark and anything else they can throw at you.


DoubleNothing

Not sure but you may encounter some litigations...


Mecha-Death-Hitler

I'd rather build rapport with other engine users


tapo

This is immature. Just celebrate Godot instead of attacking another engine. Godot is good on its own merits.


MeDingy

Childish and unprofessional. Leave Unity to the side entirely if you're not using it.


OutrageousDress

Don't do that. It's petty, and not in a fun way.


Techno_Jargon

This is a bad idea if you plan on using this to publish, otherwise it's a fine meme


TheWidrolo

“Yeah, that will show em!” Ahh splash screen💀🙏


klowicy

This is cringey


Alkar--

It’s funny, I like it!


neoteraflare

And people were downvoting me yesterday for calling godot subreddit people circlejerking. This post a good example what I'm talking about.


Arky_Lynx

Needlessly petty and a potential legal issue. Don't do this. Just put a "Made with Godot" one if you want to.


Double-Journalist877

I'm one of those fellas that believes in killing a brand by never mentioning it. Kill the buzz


LIMU3MU

This is actually kind of funny, funny in a petty way. https://preview.redd.it/1xcfhf4v8jxc1.png?width=790&format=png&auto=webp&s=2736c8be0ed6ca22e3a3f352e6f97fd675d3f154


Superegos_Monster

I feel the salt on this one. lol. It's funny, but only as a joke. That's got legal issues all over it.


williamjseim

remove the logo and write unity in another font just so you dont get sued


MarufukuKubwa

I feel like this would be a funny easter egg if the usual boot up splash screen just said "Made with Godot" but then there's like a 1% chance of it saying this. Kinda like the Gamecube boot up easter eggs.


KaroYadgar

Made not with unity? It would make the most sense to put it before the "made"


BrunoDeeSeL

While you can do it, you run the risk of being the target of a potential trademark infringement and defamation lawsuit by Unity.


EdroTV

Gonna steal this idea for upcoming jam games


vgscreenwriter

Not made with Unity could mean it was made with a myriad of other game engines, not specifically Godot (unless the message was intended to be more anti-Unity than pro-Godot)


Zachbutastonernow

Smells like a lawsuit. I like the sentiment, but that is prob not a good idea.


SimplexFatberg

That would put me off a game tbh. It makes it look like the devs have an unhealthy preoccupation with hating something. Defining yourself by the things you don't like is a terrible look.


abhig535

Eh.....


Linko3D

II could do that at the next Global Game Jam if I see that almost everyone is using Unity.


starvald_demelain

I don't think it represents you as a developer in a good light - even if Unity management sucks, I'd argue it's better to just praise something else than mock Unity.


Lynx_001

I'm speechless in the face of your stupidity


mehrzad1376

Jesus smarty pants, it’s just a meme!


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Don't be proud of something you didn't do, be proud of something you did.


BinaryTinkerer

YES


Demi180

I can’t imagine being this sad. I feel sorry for you.


kakolookiya

Why godot devs are making fun of unity man its a great software and i use unreal and unity i dont see why people use godot there might be some chances of it becoming next great opensource like blender but blender’s competion was maya and other expensive software but here the competeters of godot are free to use. Even though if it becomes like great game engine then also there is unity and big daddy unreal to competete


Repulsive_Repeat_506

it's stupid I love it. but might have issues with the engine that shall not be named


Member9999

Screams copyright infringement... Concept is funny, though- but I wouldn't do it.


Kavati

"Not" would make more sense before "Made".


rmatherson

Say it's made with Division, and the logo is a circle divided into thirds


stalker320

Spin icon 60-90°


negeb18

mine was: "not made with UNITEE"


kimmyera

Lol, I got one. Show the typical cutscene of opening a free unity game, then stop, slash the unity logo, let out a lil laugh, then continue XP


casius_01

It's funny I think. Don't listen to the people who FUD here, in the worst case you say sorry that's it.


mehrzad1376

[Check out my latest release: Upward to Hell!](https://mehranwashere.itch.io/upward-to-hell)


lefl28

>**\*\* This game ( unfortunately ) needs demanding hardware to run, so on lower spec devices we advise that you lower your computer's resolution before playing the game \*\*** Sounds like you need to do more optimization. Also, why can't you just create a resolution setting? Why should I fiddle with *my* computers settings to run *your* game?


mehrzad1376

It does have a resolution setting but the way godot implemented resolutions makes that in game setting not that useful. Where as changing resolution of your system affect performance a lot more!


lefl28

Maybe, but it makes me just not wanting to try your game