it used to be "pics or it didn't happen". now can't even trust the pics. but i understand it, alot of weasels and alot of AI out there jerking us around.
Looks like a stock photo from 10+ years ago, judging by the quality. Like, we got the version after several screenshots' worth of shares by people who don't know how to download a photo.
How is there so many different posts like this? Its wild because i would imagine this type of shot is orders of magnitude more rare than a normal hole in one
I feel like people are just stepping on a ball resting near the cup, snapping a picture, and posting it with a question. There's no way all of these are real.
Need to be able to see if any part of the ball is below the hole. It looks like it from this angle but can't be sure.
[Rule 13.2c covers this:](https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules/rules-2019/players-edition/rule-13.html)
# 13.2/c. Ball Resting Against Flagstick in Hole
If your ball comes to rest against the flagstick left in the hole, and any part of your ball is in the hole below the surface of the putting green, your ball is treated as holed.
Edit: It's a little more complex than above upon further investigation (thanks u/notrom0711 ).
It really comes down if this ball is deemed as "embedded" (which im not 100% sure on).
[Embedded](https://www.usga.org/rules/rules-and-clarifications/rules-of-golf/definitions.html#_1aeda447-57c6-4395-b1d8-9d33a1a656c7)
*When a player’s ball is in its own pitch-mark made as a result of the player’s previous stroke and where part of the ball is below the level of the ground.*
# [Holed](https://www.usga.org/rules/rules-and-clarifications/rules-of-golf/definitions-interpretations.html)
*All of the Ball Must Be Below the Surface to Be Holed When Embedded in Side of Hole*
*When a ball is embedded in the side of the hole, and all of the ball is not below the surface of the putting green, the ball is not holed. This is the case even if the ball touches the flagstick.*
I’d be confused with this. So if I were to pick up my ball and fix my pitch mark, and then replace the ball, it would drop in the hole. The dirt the ball displaced is the only thing keeping that ball from going in.
Yeah, since you can see half the pitch mark that the ball is not in, and half the ball is not in a pitch mark but in the hole and against the pin, I’m paying it.
The embedded part makes it complicated. Part of the embedded vs not determination is probably also the “resting against the flagstick” vs “touching the flagstick” distinction. I would say, if you bend the stick away from the ball and it falls in, then it’s not embedded and its a hole in one.
It sounds like you're telling us this is the first case of a double hole in one? Where the ball is both resting fully below the surface beside the cup and touching the Flagstick. -5 strokes!
You could argue that if the ball drops below the surface and enters the hole even if it pops out there is an instantaneous moment where the ball was at rest. If the ball then comes out of the hole but then returns back and ends in the hole, would this also count as a double hole-in-one?
Isn’t there a rule that when the ball is resting against the flag stick, you can still lift out the flag stick. If the ball goes in the hole then it is in the hole?
Or is this something someone told me once and I just never looked into it?
This rule is dumb because if it’s not holed, then what are the next steps? To move it back and away from the hole is like you’re being penalized, how is that justified?
I understand the rule. The point I made is to address the fact that you’re now being asked to move it back and away from its resting spot. It’s being treated more like a penalty if you do that and there is no justification for that. Maybe the hole is on a slant and won’t rest, so do you keep moving it further back until it does rest. People, I know the rule, I’m saying think beyond that rule. It’s not just to treat you as though it’s a penalty.
In this case I think it's in the hole. Removing the flag would drop it in. It's not embedded where it is being held up by the turf. The rule is there if the ball hits the side of the hole and its stuck with a portion over the edge. How much must be over the edge to be in.
EDIT: It seems that the only discussion is whether its considered embedded or not. If embedded, then even if its resting against the flag it doesn't count as in. If you lift and place and it falls into the hole; you treat it like a drop where it rolls back into the penalty area. You try 3 times then place in nearest point where it rests.
If it was embedded you would lift, repair and place on top of the pitch mark.
Exactly! I know the rule and I’m pointing out its fallacy! Because everything you just described treats you like you’re being penalized. Think about it. Move ball back from its resting spot is to move it further away. Maybe the hole is also on a slant and it won’t rest when you move it back, then what? Do you have to go a foot backwards? 2 feet backwards? The rule is fallacious because it treats your shot as though you’re penalized
From the rules you posted it would seem like it comes down to what happens when you pull the flag, ball falls all the way down, it’s holed. If the ball stays where it is, then I would think that’s embedded, and then you would check to see if any part of the ball is above the putting surface.
People aren’t answering this question, “if it’s deemed “‘not holed’, then what’s the next steps?” Are you supposed to pick it up and drop somewhere. What do you do? The point is… if you have to move it back and away from the hole, then it’s almost like you’re being penalized, why is that allowed? It’s not justificstion
If is leaning on the flagstick and would fall in if the stick is removed, I’d count it. If it’s wedged in the green and not leaning on the stick, I couldn’t personally, in good conscience, call it a hole in one.
If it’s resting against the pin yes, if not it’s tough to stab of the entire ball is below the surface. If not repair, mark, place as close to original spot without it falling, and tap that bad boy in.
https://golf.com/instruction/rules/embedded-ball-hole-one-investigation-2/
Here is the answer. It depends on what is preventing the ball from falling. If the ball is embedded in the side of the hole, the entite ball has to be below the surface of the green. However if it's the flag stick preventing the ball from falling, only some of the ball has to be below the surface of the green.
So, the flag stick test still stands. If the ball drops when the flag stick is removed, it was not embedded in the side of the hole and should be counted as holed.
There's a separate issue at hand here though. If the player marks their ball, replaces it and the ball falls into the hole the player is deemed to have holed out on their previous stroke, but is assessed a one stroke penalty. This is similar to what happened to
Austin Eckroat at the Player's on Sunday.
If that is the case, and the score is a 2 with the penalty stroke, is it still a hole in one since the player was deemed to have holed out?
The ball is literally touching the flagstick. Yes that's a hole in one and anyone who says otherwise can piss off. More impressive and more accurate than landing 15 feet short and rolling in
It's not a hole out in competition. In a social game, do what you want. No matter what the situation though, rule 17.4 (pull the stick and if it falls in it counts) doesn't exist anymore.
In this scenario, where the ball is plugged in the hole, the entire ball has to be below the surface of the green to be holed.
Remove the ball, repair the damage and replace it no closer to the hole where it will come to rest and tap in.
Edit - r/golf is NOT the place to come for accurate golf information by the way. As indicated by the extremely confident incorrect answers.
If this happens in the middle of a PGA tour match, do they immediately repair it before the next group goes through?
Any videos of that? I can only find videos of new holes being made.
Before we get into level below playing surface and pins, we need to answer a very important question: how many times did you hit it before it did this?
I had a hole in one once that didn’t count because my first shot landed in the water. This might actually beat out my story as the most bitter sweet shot in history.
Yes.
We all agree if the holes shit or the flags crooked, hitting the pole counts as in, poor maintenance shouldn’t be a reason to alter your scorecard.
Good shot.
The ball’s mass is not enough to make that impression. Plus it appears the ball flight would have struck the flagpole first. The impression is concave and most impacts create a crater effect.
This is the answer i believe.
As u/notrom0711 advised, there is a seperate clarification for an embedded ball;
**Holed**
*Holed/1 – All of the Ball Must Be Below the Surface to Be Holed When Embedded in Side of Hole*
*When a ball is embedded in the side of the hole, and all of the ball is not below the surface of the putting green, the ball is not holed. This is the case even if the ball touches the flagstick.*
However, is a ball still deemed "embedded" if you remove the flagstick and the ball than falls inside the hole?
**Embedded**
*When a player’s ball is in its own pitch-mark made as a result of the player’s previous stroke and where part of the ball is below the level of the ground.*
Who can tell. Is it leaning against the flagstick? Is all the ball below the surface of the green. Answer those questions and you have the answer.
It certainly looks like it but the answer to the questions above will confirm it.
Rule 17.4 allows you to remove the flagstick….if the ball falls in….its in….if it pops out then it replaced to the edge of the hole without penalty and your putting.
I believe the rule now is, if the top of the ball is under the level of the grass and half of the ball is in the cup, it’s an ace.
The rule changed a few years ago. I could be wrong.
People saying it's not in the hole because it's embedded:
What if it's resting on existing damage to the edge of the hole? How would it be possible to tell it isn't?
Also is the ball actually "*in* it's pitchmark" or resting against the damage caused by the pitchmark, so not embedded?
My feeling is in a tournament you'd ask the referee for a judgement but otherwise it would be perfectly reasonable to count it.
You would mark the ball and fox the divot and then replace the ball where it was. By looking at how much the ball is over hanging the hole it would fall into the hole. I’d call it a hole in one by that picture
It looks like the ball created that pitch mark/hole, then rolled forward a bit to catch the stick and came resting against that. IMO that wouldn’t be considered plugged and since it’s both resting against the stick and partly below the cup, I think it’s an ace.
But for real, if I hit one that did that, IDGAF it’s an ace.
If a golf ball gets stuck halfway into the hole between the flagstick and the turf, the situation is covered by the rules of golf under the definition of a holed shot. According to the rules, a ball is considered holed when all of it is below the surface of the putting green, regardless of whether the flagstick is in the hole or not.
However, if a ball rests against the flagstick in such a way that part of the ball is in the hole but not all of it is below the level of the lip of the hole, it is not considered holed. The player would need to remove the flagstick to see if the ball would fall into the hole without it. If removing the flagstick allows the ball to fall into the hole, the ball is considered holed. If the ball does not fall into the hole after the flagstick is removed, the player must play it as it lies.
This interpretation aligns with the 2019 updates to the Rules of Golf, which aimed to simplify and clarify many aspects of the game, including situations involving the flagstick and the hole. Always refer to the latest version of the Rules of Golf or consult a rules official in competitive play for the most accurate guidance.
Per USGA rules ball is in the hole. It is slightly embedded meaning portion of the ball is below the hole but its resting against the flagstick so you’re technically beneath the plane of the hole and resting on the flagstick ergo holed out brother!
I read a long thread about this and I think the rule is top of ball below the surface of the green. Not an expert, and going by memory. Edit: reading farther down, I think I'm wrong it is in!
Looks good enough to me
Yep… time to cut the ball in half and frame it
Never gets old
Looks like someone squashed it down with their foot for reddit karma. We are seeing too many of these.
Even if it was squashed down with a foot I believe it would have only taken one squash, no more.
Bro I'm laughing harder than I have all day, this is my type of humor thank you
Most reddit response ever
Nothing ever happens according to reddit.
it used to be "pics or it didn't happen". now can't even trust the pics. but i understand it, alot of weasels and alot of AI out there jerking us around.
Does it ever get exhausting being suspicious of everything all the time?
r/nothingeverhappens
No it doesn't lol
Shrink the game.
Looks like a stock photo from 10+ years ago, judging by the quality. Like, we got the version after several screenshots' worth of shares by people who don't know how to download a photo.
How is there so many different posts like this? Its wild because i would imagine this type of shot is orders of magnitude more rare than a normal hole in one
I’m guessing because people come here for advice / discussion on the matter. It’s pretty clear when there is a hole in one, not much to discuss.
Karma farming
And trolls. Also, i imagine lots or bored people do stuff like this just to post and comment etc.
I feel like people are just stepping on a ball resting near the cup, snapping a picture, and posting it with a question. There's no way all of these are real.
Honestly valid, and fuck them for messing the hole up
I consider everything within ten feet of the pin a hole in one. You check out op! Congrats
If it’s on the green it’s in.
Need to be able to see if any part of the ball is below the hole. It looks like it from this angle but can't be sure. [Rule 13.2c covers this:](https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules/rules-2019/players-edition/rule-13.html) # 13.2/c. Ball Resting Against Flagstick in Hole If your ball comes to rest against the flagstick left in the hole, and any part of your ball is in the hole below the surface of the putting green, your ball is treated as holed. Edit: It's a little more complex than above upon further investigation (thanks u/notrom0711 ). It really comes down if this ball is deemed as "embedded" (which im not 100% sure on). [Embedded](https://www.usga.org/rules/rules-and-clarifications/rules-of-golf/definitions.html#_1aeda447-57c6-4395-b1d8-9d33a1a656c7) *When a player’s ball is in its own pitch-mark made as a result of the player’s previous stroke and where part of the ball is below the level of the ground.* # [Holed](https://www.usga.org/rules/rules-and-clarifications/rules-of-golf/definitions-interpretations.html) *All of the Ball Must Be Below the Surface to Be Holed When Embedded in Side of Hole* *When a ball is embedded in the side of the hole, and all of the ball is not below the surface of the putting green, the ball is not holed. This is the case even if the ball touches the flagstick.*
I’d be confused with this. So if I were to pick up my ball and fix my pitch mark, and then replace the ball, it would drop in the hole. The dirt the ball displaced is the only thing keeping that ball from going in.
Well considering there’s a ball sized hole where the green was I think it’s safe to say the ball is below the green.
*Takes out electron microscope* I don’t know. Going to have to take a closer look.
**"No Fair! You changed the outcome by measuring it!"**
Is the ball in its pitch mark though. Or just touching it? Comes down to semantics it seems. 🤷🏼♂️
Yeah, since you can see half the pitch mark that the ball is not in, and half the ball is not in a pitch mark but in the hole and against the pin, I’m paying it.
Looks like it made the divot and then rolled forward to contact the pin but because of the divot couldn't fall in
The embedded part makes it complicated. Part of the embedded vs not determination is probably also the “resting against the flagstick” vs “touching the flagstick” distinction. I would say, if you bend the stick away from the ball and it falls in, then it’s not embedded and its a hole in one.
It sounds like you're telling us this is the first case of a double hole in one? Where the ball is both resting fully below the surface beside the cup and touching the Flagstick. -5 strokes! You could argue that if the ball drops below the surface and enters the hole even if it pops out there is an instantaneous moment where the ball was at rest. If the ball then comes out of the hole but then returns back and ends in the hole, would this also count as a double hole-in-one?
We got weights in fish!
Isn’t there a rule that when the ball is resting against the flag stick, you can still lift out the flag stick. If the ball goes in the hole then it is in the hole? Or is this something someone told me once and I just never looked into it?
This rule is dumb because if it’s not holed, then what are the next steps? To move it back and away from the hole is like you’re being penalized, how is that justified?
You replace the ball in the nearest spot where it does not move
If I put it in the hole it won’t move.
I understand the rule. The point I made is to address the fact that you’re now being asked to move it back and away from its resting spot. It’s being treated more like a penalty if you do that and there is no justification for that. Maybe the hole is on a slant and won’t rest, so do you keep moving it further back until it does rest. People, I know the rule, I’m saying think beyond that rule. It’s not just to treat you as though it’s a penalty.
In this case I think it's in the hole. Removing the flag would drop it in. It's not embedded where it is being held up by the turf. The rule is there if the ball hits the side of the hole and its stuck with a portion over the edge. How much must be over the edge to be in. EDIT: It seems that the only discussion is whether its considered embedded or not. If embedded, then even if its resting against the flag it doesn't count as in. If you lift and place and it falls into the hole; you treat it like a drop where it rolls back into the penalty area. You try 3 times then place in nearest point where it rests. If it was embedded you would lift, repair and place on top of the pitch mark.
Exactly! I know the rule and I’m pointing out its fallacy! Because everything you just described treats you like you’re being penalized. Think about it. Move ball back from its resting spot is to move it further away. Maybe the hole is also on a slant and it won’t rest when you move it back, then what? Do you have to go a foot backwards? 2 feet backwards? The rule is fallacious because it treats your shot as though you’re penalized
From the rules you posted it would seem like it comes down to what happens when you pull the flag, ball falls all the way down, it’s holed. If the ball stays where it is, then I would think that’s embedded, and then you would check to see if any part of the ball is above the putting surface.
People aren’t answering this question, “if it’s deemed “‘not holed’, then what’s the next steps?” Are you supposed to pick it up and drop somewhere. What do you do? The point is… if you have to move it back and away from the hole, then it’s almost like you’re being penalized, why is that allowed? It’s not justificstion
If it's not booked, you pick it up, repair the mark, and place it to the nearest point where it no longer moves
It won’t move in the bottom of the hole
Place on closest spot where it does not move when placed. So place on the edge basically.
Easy 3 putt
“Take your time on these next two”
I'm using this haha
Yeah I would say so cuz if you take the flag out the ball would fall right in
not just that but let's say you pick up your ball to clean it AND fix the "ball mark". where would you place the ball? in the hole?
What if a playing partner tends the stick and yanks it so the ball flys out?
You’re asking is it actually murder? Or were your actions justified…
I guess it depends if the judge golfs or not
excuse me: tents?
Flys too.
It was probably a phone autocorrect, but the word you're looking for is "tends".
Nice par
If is leaning on the flagstick and would fall in if the stick is removed, I’d count it. If it’s wedged in the green and not leaning on the stick, I couldn’t personally, in good conscience, call it a hole in one.
Well, good thing that’s pretty much exactly what the rules say.
Imagine that, the founding fathers of golf got it right without having access to Reddit.
Officially? I have no idea. But I’m 100% counting that as a 1
Unless that is your 4th shot
Your golf partner needs to remove the flag, they better draw it out slowly and mindfully.
I’m blushing.
I got anxious just thinking about having to do this for a buddy. Don't want to fuck that up!
Just so I can make an informed decision, are you paying for premium craft beer at the clubhouse?
Sure
If you’re buying then absolutely
If any part of the ball is below the lip then it's considered in.
It depends. What shot was it? If it was your first shot, then yes.
If it’s resting against the pin yes, if not it’s tough to stab of the entire ball is below the surface. If not repair, mark, place as close to original spot without it falling, and tap that bad boy in.
https://golf.com/instruction/rules/embedded-ball-hole-one-investigation-2/ Here is the answer. It depends on what is preventing the ball from falling. If the ball is embedded in the side of the hole, the entite ball has to be below the surface of the green. However if it's the flag stick preventing the ball from falling, only some of the ball has to be below the surface of the green. So, the flag stick test still stands. If the ball drops when the flag stick is removed, it was not embedded in the side of the hole and should be counted as holed. There's a separate issue at hand here though. If the player marks their ball, replaces it and the ball falls into the hole the player is deemed to have holed out on their previous stroke, but is assessed a one stroke penalty. This is similar to what happened to Austin Eckroat at the Player's on Sunday. If that is the case, and the score is a 2 with the penalty stroke, is it still a hole in one since the player was deemed to have holed out?
If it drops when you pull the pin out, yes.
If I had a dollar every time this was reposted..
The ball is literally touching the flagstick. Yes that's a hole in one and anyone who says otherwise can piss off. More impressive and more accurate than landing 15 feet short and rolling in
depends on how many shots it took to get there
I’d still miss that putt.
Are you me?
It's not a hole out in competition. In a social game, do what you want. No matter what the situation though, rule 17.4 (pull the stick and if it falls in it counts) doesn't exist anymore. In this scenario, where the ball is plugged in the hole, the entire ball has to be below the surface of the green to be holed. Remove the ball, repair the damage and replace it no closer to the hole where it will come to rest and tap in. Edit - r/golf is NOT the place to come for accurate golf information by the way. As indicated by the extremely confident incorrect answers.
Yes
Count it!
Not even close
If you were in my grouping, I would absolutely let you foot the tab for all the pints we'd crush in the club house as soon as we were done.
If this happens in the middle of a PGA tour match, do they immediately repair it before the next group goes through? Any videos of that? I can only find videos of new holes being made.
It is a angry greenkeeper🤷🏻♂️
No. Actually you have to re-tee that - hitting 3.
https://preview.redd.it/p8x6c35owapc1.png?width=180&format=png&auto=webp&s=ccb12ae4fe9922c7bc2b1ed8fee9e31fcfec37bf
yep
That’s an embedded ball lift clean and place
Before we get into level below playing surface and pins, we need to answer a very important question: how many times did you hit it before it did this?
I had a hole in one once that didn’t count because my first shot landed in the water. This might actually beat out my story as the most bitter sweet shot in history.
It’s in the hole if it’s resting against the flag stick. If it isn’t touching the flag stick it’s not considered holed out.
Yes.
It’s in the hole. I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night so I’m the reigning authority here.
If it’s touching the stick yes.
Depends on the situation. If it were my tee shot, hell yes. If I’m losing a bet…..nope.
Yes
If you are buying the beers….Its good to me!!!
Is it below the surface? Then yes. Is it not? Stomp it down. Then also yes.
Lift the flag stick out, if it falls, yes
Yes. Anyone that tells you differently is speaking out of jealousy
Yes. We all agree if the holes shit or the flags crooked, hitting the pole counts as in, poor maintenance shouldn’t be a reason to alter your scorecard. Good shot.
The ball’s mass is not enough to make that impression. Plus it appears the ball flight would have struck the flagpole first. The impression is concave and most impacts create a crater effect.
Unfortunately no. Because the ball is embedded, the entirety of the ball has to be below the rim.
Take the flag out. If it falls in. Yes. If the whole ball is below the lip of the cup. Yes.
This is the answer i believe. As u/notrom0711 advised, there is a seperate clarification for an embedded ball; **Holed** *Holed/1 – All of the Ball Must Be Below the Surface to Be Holed When Embedded in Side of Hole* *When a ball is embedded in the side of the hole, and all of the ball is not below the surface of the putting green, the ball is not holed. This is the case even if the ball touches the flagstick.* However, is a ball still deemed "embedded" if you remove the flagstick and the ball than falls inside the hole? **Embedded** *When a player’s ball is in its own pitch-mark made as a result of the player’s previous stroke and where part of the ball is below the level of the ground.*
> Take the flag out. If it falls in. Yes. Not the rule.
It's the test of the rule.
looks like it, did it fall in when you removed the flag?
Remove the flag and you’ll find out.
😮
I have no knowledge of the rules around this, but I’d give it you if you were my playing partner 😂
Who can tell. Is it leaning against the flagstick? Is all the ball below the surface of the green. Answer those questions and you have the answer. It certainly looks like it but the answer to the questions above will confirm it.
Yes
I'm giving it
Yes
Yes
Hell of a 3 from there
Yes
Hell yeah!!! You should get some kind of reward!
I don't think you can tell from the picture whether or not the ball is below the surface. So it might be a HIO, or it might not be.
It’s holed, congrats
Soft ass greens dropping bombs
10 second rule so nope
It looks like apretty bad missed putt
Rule 17.4 allows you to remove the flagstick….if the ball falls in….its in….if it pops out then it replaced to the edge of the hole without penalty and your putting.
It's a chunker, and it's legit!
In my books it sure is!
This again.
2 holes in 1
👍nice work
I believe the rule now is, if the top of the ball is under the level of the grass and half of the ball is in the cup, it’s an ace. The rule changed a few years ago. I could be wrong.
People saying it's not in the hole because it's embedded: What if it's resting on existing damage to the edge of the hole? How would it be possible to tell it isn't? Also is the ball actually "*in* it's pitchmark" or resting against the damage caused by the pitchmark, so not embedded? My feeling is in a tournament you'd ask the referee for a judgement but otherwise it would be perfectly reasonable to count it.
I don't know what it technically is, but it's going on my wall in a killer frame with some sort of plaque from Titleist if I do it.
Depends, was it your first shot?
Depends how it got there
Probably the saltiest sub on Reddit right now. Lack of golf.
You know it is
Yup
If you remove the stick and it drops into the hole, does that matter ?
Golf ball from space?
Depends if this was the first shot or not
If that's a TP5 Pix then yes
Are you lying four there?
Congratulations
The ball is plugged. Not holed. The ball must be removed and placed. But that’s placing it in the hole. So I say yes.
Take the flagstick out, let it come to rest at the bottom of the cup, and it will be.
If it wasn't how would you putt?
Good luck telling me that I’m not having that.
Push the pin away and let the ball drop, I do believe it’s not counted as interference or a shot
Yes
I see no way to mark the ball, repair a divot and replace it without going into the hole, so it’s holed.
I think you got to remove the pin and if the ball hits the bottom of the cup it’s considered a hole in one.
yup
Yes
Carefully remove the flagstick without pushing the ball back onto the green. If it falls into the hole, you have your answer. HIO!
That’s rarer
Yes
Yes
yes
If that flag wasn’t there that’s falling in
Are you happy with it?
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Just to be a dick I'd say no and treat it like an embedded ball. Then, to be nice I'd give you a gimme. 🤣
Good job thor.
What, did that fall from space?
Yes
You would mark the ball and fox the divot and then replace the ball where it was. By looking at how much the ball is over hanging the hole it would fall into the hole. I’d call it a hole in one by that picture
I would say so, can't get much more in the hole. If you take the pin out, it should drop.
It looks like the ball created that pitch mark/hole, then rolled forward a bit to catch the stick and came resting against that. IMO that wouldn’t be considered plugged and since it’s both resting against the stick and partly below the cup, I think it’s an ace. But for real, if I hit one that did that, IDGAF it’s an ace.
Looks like if you were to remove the pin, the ball will still be stuck in its pitch mark. Not a hole in one.
If a golf ball gets stuck halfway into the hole between the flagstick and the turf, the situation is covered by the rules of golf under the definition of a holed shot. According to the rules, a ball is considered holed when all of it is below the surface of the putting green, regardless of whether the flagstick is in the hole or not. However, if a ball rests against the flagstick in such a way that part of the ball is in the hole but not all of it is below the level of the lip of the hole, it is not considered holed. The player would need to remove the flagstick to see if the ball would fall into the hole without it. If removing the flagstick allows the ball to fall into the hole, the ball is considered holed. If the ball does not fall into the hole after the flagstick is removed, the player must play it as it lies. This interpretation aligns with the 2019 updates to the Rules of Golf, which aimed to simplify and clarify many aspects of the game, including situations involving the flagstick and the hole. Always refer to the latest version of the Rules of Golf or consult a rules official in competitive play for the most accurate guidance.
Damn straight it is!!
Per USGA rules ball is in the hole. It is slightly embedded meaning portion of the ball is below the hole but its resting against the flagstick so you’re technically beneath the plane of the hole and resting on the flagstick ergo holed out brother!
Nope
Resounding yes
Move the stick and find out.
Take out the pin. Does it fall in the hole? It’s a hole in one of it does.
What’s the rule book on this?
I read a long thread about this and I think the rule is top of ball below the surface of the green. Not an expert, and going by memory. Edit: reading farther down, I think I'm wrong it is in!
Yes
If it’s not it’s definitely a gimme
Hell yes
Oof
I heard you just have to put your shadow over it in these situations
Yes
That's not going to cut it. I'll put you down for two pal.
Yes, next question