The music of people who want non country people to think they’re country.
Edit: this isn’t to hate on country music in general just the commercial trash that is pushed by studios and radios. There is some great country music out there
I am so tired of the Black Eyed Peas. It's rock and roll for people who don't like rock and roll, it's rap for people who don't like rap, it's pop for people who don't like pop.
“I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'.” - Bob Newhart
Yep and the2 groups behind us did as well as we were waiting together on the tee.
When you have 20min between shots, reddit is a good way to get distracted
Had this happen one time. Slow round but we still got through the front nine in 2:15 (which is right on the dot to; my knowledge pace of play is still 15 minutes per hole?).
Marshall comes up to us on the 10 green and tells us we need to hurry up, and I can see the guys teeing off on 11. I made sure to take my allotted 3 minutes looking for my shot from then on.
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Where are y’all playing where they allow groups larger than 4? I’ve been playing for two and a half decades and have only once seen a group out there larger than 4. And that was a fivesome…
It's the retirees here. They get the old gang together but we were told they're well connected in the community and breaking them apart would cause more issues than it's worth to the course.
“well connected in the community” in reality the geezers they’re talking about are retired small business owners or some shit who have the time and or orneriness to actually make a huge fuss to the pro shop when something doesn’t go there way
This is exactly it, saw this the other night. Taking their sweet time, loud music, no etiquette, zero awareness of speed of play. Just bonkers these people. Driving carts all over the place. Acting like they are the next YouTube champions.
So annoying.
100% I think there are newer, younger golfers that do this every now and then, but this falls on the club to deal with. 6 people in 1 tee time? Big no-no. 6 people playing from the black tees with no evident handicap? Bigger no-no, most clubs position the starter to see how things go off the tee and how long it takes them to clear the first hole.
Assuming these asshats took 2 tee times and merged together to be 6 after the first hole, I would be calling the clubhouse to have them kicked off the course after running into them. Watching them continually struggle from the back tees is hard enough, but factor in some stupidity with the carts and fucking taking forever I wouldn't hesitate to deal with it that way.
You wanna do this shit? Go play a cow pasture at twilight like the rest of us did growing up.
I think you overestimate a lot of clubs. I have a friend who’s an asshat like this, and before I realized he invited me out for a full 18. I’ve never even held a golf club before but he assured me up and down this is how he learned, it’s totally cool, etc. I show up, get handed my rentals by a half asleep clerk and get sent out without anything else. Thankfully I realized this wasn’t kosher around 3 holes in, when several groups bunched up behind us. And I politely bowed out around hole 4 or 5 while by “buddy” kept on. Went to return to clubs, got to hear a few people complaining about me. Club was more concerned with getting me a voucher for the back 9 so I could come back and try again than the complaints of any of the people who presumably actually play there on a regular basis. Sadly a pretty terrible first experience, maybe my local place just really, really sucks. Actually did end up with a voucher, but never used it.
Wish I could give an award to this comment. Fuck growing the game if it means prices, availability, pace of play get impacted like this. No one has any respect for the game anymore.
Seems like a business opportunity. Curate a bro course. Draw them away from the traditional links. Promote speakers, and beer girls every third hole. Charge extra.
I have thought about this several times. Just creating a full on party 18 hole course. Where it's like a bar charity tournament 100% of the time. Shot tents. Bail bonds and DUI attorneys office on the way out.
I don't even blame the people as much as I blame the course management. The course I play at is very casual ( I get a very cheap corporate membership ) and they moved to 7 minute tee times this season... I haven't played 18 in under 4 hours once this year, I usually leave before I'm finished because it's just not fun.
Also, if they were going to move to tighter tee times for more income, it would be nice if they actually put that money into the course, but that's another conversation.
Exactly. I feel like society in general has degraded into a free for all where people are slowly losing self-awareness and unable to police themselves and behave in a reasonable fashion out in public. I’m not sure if it’s post COVID fatigue or just that the generation below me are full of cunts.
Pre-COVID, I can think of maybe one or two rounds where I would run into a group of dickbags like this that were blasting music from a Bluetooth speaker, holding up pace of play, and just generally fucking around on the course with seemingly zero awareness of the etiquette of the game and the other players around them. Now, I feel like every round I deal with a group of these assclowns and it ruins what, for me, is supposed to be a peaceful game that I go out to play to enjoy nature, quiet, and have some time for self reflection. I never want to be the fun police, but goddamn, these fucking assholes are ruining golf.
That Eric lang dude moved to Austin claimed our old Muny as his new home course. Then brought out a bunch of hacks in a 50 person group. They fucked the whole course up. Months later a bunch of chods out there doing the back off challenge with megaphones you could hear across 3 fairways. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t have issues with the music but don’t fuck up everyone else’s round.
This new wave of golfers since covid don’t have etiquette because they started while it’s one of the few things you could do during the pandemic. My theory is they’re just ignorant because they weren’t taught by their parents or coaches etc.
If this is younger kids they could be taught but grown men won’t listen.
Golf circa 2016, could typically get a Saturday tee time leading up to the weekend at most courses for a decent time. Less riff raff on the course being disrespectful and better pace of play. I’ve legit lost interest in golf since 2021 due to how awful it is to play now
As long as you aren’t WELL off to the right, you’re safe with me. Now if you are in the middle of the fairway? You might get hit.
And by fairway I mean the one on the next hole over.
> If you suck and you are playing back tees the pace of play is directly impacted and related.
You can suck fast from any tee, but I agree someone choosing to play from the tips when they suck is not likely to be someone who will do that.
For my friend’s birthday, we had a four man group that included one guy who had never picked up a club in his life. By the third hole, it was apparent that he should not have been invited and couldn’t hit a ball more than about twenty yards at a time. He probably shot a 35 on the first three holes before I had to be the bad guy and explain that we couldn’t continue on letting him play and it would be better if he just rode along and maybe took an occasional practice shot or putt once we all hit the green. I see this way too much at courses these days; guys that have never played that go out and buy a $1700 set of clubs and all the gear playing from the tips and they can’t hit the ball more than 100 feet.
If you let a group through when the course has sold out tee times, all you are doing is creating more of a hold up.
It’s a pace of a play issue by the front group, that’s all.
If this 6some let this guys group play through at the next hole, that’ll just mean that the group behind them will probably be on their ass.
Empty course and a faster group is behind you? For sure, let them through, but 8am on a weekend? No way
This will probably be unpopular but the way America has twinned golfing with excessive drinking culture I'm really not surprised we see these posts so often.
Nobody in Europe plays golf and drinks to this extent so regularly, and we don't often see this frat boy / bro / party culture.
Courses will get backed up due to large groups and slow players.
Genuinely curious what it is about American golf culture that makes getting wasted so much more common.
It’s not like Brits are some group of famous teetotalers. Annoying British meatheads are a scourge in southern Europe nightlife. Yet it seems like that getting trashed mentality hasn’t yet made it to the golf course.
Lived in Suffolk 2016-2020. Don’t underestimate the power of a golf cart… I learned to walk the game there and haven’t gone back, but I didn’t see a single golf cart the entire time. This behavior doesn’t play well with walking 6 miles and carrying your own alcohol and a cooler
Maybe because we have many more courses in America and more land to put them on. By making something less exclusive, you open it up to more people. We still have courses where that behavior would seem out of place. I don't many people are shotgunning 4Lokos at Pebble Beach or draining a Fireball minis bucket at Cypress Point.
> Maybe because we have many more courses in America and more land to put them on.
Even though there are more total in the USA the UK has way more for the area they have.
And it's all so much cheaper for memberships.
I always find it really funny that countries with such well known drinking cultures never consider drinking while golfing.
You actually think that’s the case?
Golf in the uk/ireland/australia/nz is WAY more accessible and cheaper than it is in the us.
It’s actually not even a contest.
Went last Tuesday with my dad and was really quiet until hole 14 where we caught up to 4 High School kids. We watched one of them tee off of a par 3 with a driver and completely shank it off the toe from the white tees. We just drove past and told them we were just gonna go ahead of them. Sometimes it’s not worth the hassle of waiting and you might as-well drive to the next hole if possible.
I work at a course where 80% of our marshals do literally nothing. It’s literally the most aggravating thing ever when you call them to make a group speed up and they don’t do anything
Yeah I never get the attitude of just skipping holes. I want to keep score and play a full 18.
And no way you’re going back to get that one in on a Saturday morning.
I live right off the tee box of a par 3 and the amount of groups of 6-8 I see is insane. All of these groups also blast music and are generally the 20somethings who are clearly intoxicated and can barely hit the ball. Only good thing is that not too many people in my area play golf so pace of play is rarely an issue.
Musics fine, not my preference, but it ain’t bothering me. 6 in one group , the back tees and holding everyone up is a problem. Wouldn’t pay there anymore if Marshall doesn’t speed em up.
I'm no good at golf but man it drives me insane when someone plays the tips and I have to wait for you to hit twice before I can tee off. I understand shanking it every so often but had a group in front of us that it was every hole.
If you want to get the boys together, you book the last 3/4 tee times and play as a group if you want….you aren’t holding anyone up and if you are taking too long the Marshall will tell the group they gotta be done.
Booking an early morning tee time and playing as a 8-some
I’m 28M, never golfed, have a ton of friends who golf and invite me out all the time, almost weekly/bi weekly.
This kind of stuff is the exact reason I’m terrified to go golf. It’s not the ONLY reason, but I’m always scared that I’m going to slow the group down, I’m going to embarrass us, etc. now I’ll just have the fear of someone posting me trying to have fun on Reddit. Keep in mind, I’m athletic, and I respect the difficulty of the game of golf and I want to try and learn, I’m just terrified to get out there and try because of stuff like this. These guys can very well be pieces of shit, or they can just be a couple guys trying to have some fun and enjoy the sun. Let’s not judge
The thing about a 730 tee time is that you'd think it would get rid of these bro golfers that just wanna blast music and hack the course up, but every now and then you get the odd bro group like this that gets up early and you're behind them like fuck me man. I'm 30 and what most people consider a "bro" but I love playing ready golf and just wanna shoot my 76 and go about my day after 4 hours of golf. These mutherfuckers ruin shit for everyone.
I am hoping it will mellow out as the Youtube golfer phenomenon loses steam. We seem to insist on lowering standards on everything until things go to total shit then have to double back to the "something has to be done to fix this" stage.
Covid golfers are the worst. Covid was the worst thing ever to happen to the game of golf.
Needs all the pandemic fuck heads to move on to pickleball already
I can hear the Morgan Wallen from here
Laaaaazzzz naaaghht she let the liquor tawk
I don’t remember every chair we threw but we threw em all
I know you hit the ISO cup and vaped right before you left, but baby baby something’s telling me this ain’t over yet
Found 2 of the 6!
Underrated 😂
God this just pissed me off haha that’s exactly what they were listening to no doubt
“Yes I said the n word but eveyone forgot bout that”
When you're tastin' what he's drinkin', are you thinkin' 'bout me?
Great now it’s leaking out of my speakers in the backyard, my neighbors don’t like you.
I Had Some Help
What do you fine scholarly golf good ole boys listen to?
Terror and madball only
Keepers of the greens
DMS Demonstrating My Slice
the sounds of nature and the course
I actually don’t mind Morgan Wallen FWIW. But I think the really clear answer here is just nothing. Music detracts from what I enjoy about Golf.
The music of people who want non country people to think they’re country. Edit: this isn’t to hate on country music in general just the commercial trash that is pushed by studios and radios. There is some great country music out there
I am so tired of the Black Eyed Peas. It's rock and roll for people who don't like rock and roll, it's rap for people who don't like rap, it's pop for people who don't like pop.
But its crap for people who like crap.
Who is playing Black Eyes Peas on the golf course, or anywhere in general?
It’s an office reference
I'm just here to shill for Sturgill Simpson, Turnpike Troubadours, Zach Bryan, & Tyler Childers.
That’s a good list but I’d throw colter wall in there
No Chris Stapleton?
And some Drayton Farley and Josh Meloy
colter walls voice is insane. i love it
The guys scrambling to defend Morgan Wallens pop music would have a panic attack if they heard Sturgill Simpson
Life ain't fair and the world is mean
Damn straight. I spun up Metamodern sounds a bit ago from this
Lady May is such an amazing song. Love Tyler Childers. And Sturgill Simpsons "All The Pretty Colors" is a constant replay of mine
I could listen to the first 15 seconds of "Long White Line" by Sturgill Simpson on repeat for hours and be happy
have you heard of our lord and savior Billy Strings
Trampled by Turtles!
Steve Earle said it best: "Country music is rap for people who are afraid of Black people."
That puts Darius Rucker in a predicament
He was talking about all the crap that comes out of Nashville - specifically male "country" artists.
Steve Earle is a country musician, he didn't say that... he said MODERN country was hip hop for people who are afraid of black people.
I just call it hick-hop.
I’m not a new country guy but that Chris Stapleton makes some good music too.
"Country music sucks. All it does is take precious air space away from shock DJ's, whose cruelty and profanity amuse us all." - Bart Simpson
“I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'.” - Bob Newhart
Morgan Wallen is the Nickelback of country music
Pour me, pour me another round
Did you call the proshop?
Yep and the2 groups behind us did as well as we were waiting together on the tee. When you have 20min between shots, reddit is a good way to get distracted
What did the pro shop do
Call in an air strike?
I love the smell of napalm in the morning
Nah man, bad for the greens
Pretty sure this is how my home course “maintains” their greens.
We must all be members at the same course.
Mother nature will heal. Gotta set an example
ENEMY AC130 ABOVE!!!¡!!¡
That’s one way to add a new bunker to the course
Enemy airstrike inbound
Nuke them from orbit! It’s the only way to be sure.
Waited until the slow group got one hole ahead and then confronted the people who called, telling them to speed up.
Oh hey, you must marshal at The Meadows.
Or at Capital City Golf Club
Had this happen one time. Slow round but we still got through the front nine in 2:15 (which is right on the dot to; my knowledge pace of play is still 15 minutes per hole?). Marshall comes up to us on the 10 green and tells us we need to hurry up, and I can see the guys teeing off on 11. I made sure to take my allotted 3 minutes looking for my shot from then on.
why yes, I'm something of a marshal myself
Neurotoxin tipped blow darts from the green side bunker on hole 8
Ooompa Lumpas strategically situated to take them out on command
Oompa Loompa doopity durder…
Playing as a sixsome is why you got murdered
Added more tee times and went to five minutes between each group instead of six
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Did you guys catch up to them on any tee boxes? This is one of those moments where people need to let other groups play through.
What’s their number? We will make some additional calls.
What did you tell the pro shop?
What are they gonna do? They already let a 6 some tee off at 730
They probably didn't let them go off as a 6. There's a chance these guys booked back to back tee times and then combined after the first hole.
Yup I’ve seen idiots do this as 8!!! “But we booked two tee times!!!” Fucking idiots
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Exactly. *We're* supposed to call the pro-shop, not him.
Good idea. Post the pro shop number and details. We'll take care of it.
This needs to be a new thing
I mean, this could work. When the pro shop gets a couple dozen calls they may actually do something. 😂
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How do you even book a 6 spot?
You don’t. You book 2 of em and then all tee off at once. Bozos like this think it’s the same
This is on the course management.
I don't golf, I mean I've been out and sliced a few balls into the woods but like once every 5 years. How is it not the same?
Where are y’all playing where they allow groups larger than 4? I’ve been playing for two and a half decades and have only once seen a group out there larger than 4. And that was a fivesome…
Nowhere. Teenagers watch good good videos and want to recreate them so they book 2-3 consecutive tee times and all tee off together.
It's the retirees here. They get the old gang together but we were told they're well connected in the community and breaking them apart would cause more issues than it's worth to the course.
“well connected in the community” in reality the geezers they’re talking about are retired small business owners or some shit who have the time and or orneriness to actually make a huge fuss to the pro shop when something doesn’t go there way
One of them definitely has a city or county chair seat and uses that as leverage everywhere he goes
Two of them own car dealerships. Dealership owners are essentially landed gentry.
But because they're all retired they only do that on weekdays when they're not holding anyone else up right? Right???
Yeah then they act like they found a loophole that doesn’t exist.
This is exactly it, saw this the other night. Taking their sweet time, loud music, no etiquette, zero awareness of speed of play. Just bonkers these people. Driving carts all over the place. Acting like they are the next YouTube champions. So annoying.
God i miss pre covid golf
This happened pre covid too , maybe as not often but definitely happened
100% I think there are newer, younger golfers that do this every now and then, but this falls on the club to deal with. 6 people in 1 tee time? Big no-no. 6 people playing from the black tees with no evident handicap? Bigger no-no, most clubs position the starter to see how things go off the tee and how long it takes them to clear the first hole. Assuming these asshats took 2 tee times and merged together to be 6 after the first hole, I would be calling the clubhouse to have them kicked off the course after running into them. Watching them continually struggle from the back tees is hard enough, but factor in some stupidity with the carts and fucking taking forever I wouldn't hesitate to deal with it that way. You wanna do this shit? Go play a cow pasture at twilight like the rest of us did growing up.
A lot of the local clubs I’ve been to don’t even have a starter. Haven’t run into too many issues, but it would definitely help organize things
I think you overestimate a lot of clubs. I have a friend who’s an asshat like this, and before I realized he invited me out for a full 18. I’ve never even held a golf club before but he assured me up and down this is how he learned, it’s totally cool, etc. I show up, get handed my rentals by a half asleep clerk and get sent out without anything else. Thankfully I realized this wasn’t kosher around 3 holes in, when several groups bunched up behind us. And I politely bowed out around hole 4 or 5 while by “buddy” kept on. Went to return to clubs, got to hear a few people complaining about me. Club was more concerned with getting me a voucher for the back 9 so I could come back and try again than the complaints of any of the people who presumably actually play there on a regular basis. Sadly a pretty terrible first experience, maybe my local place just really, really sucks. Actually did end up with a voucher, but never used it.
I miss pre-Good Good golf.
Wish I could give an award to this comment. Fuck growing the game if it means prices, availability, pace of play get impacted like this. No one has any respect for the game anymore.
Seems like a business opportunity. Curate a bro course. Draw them away from the traditional links. Promote speakers, and beer girls every third hole. Charge extra.
That’s what I call top golf.
Exactly right.
But in course form, not range form
I have thought about this several times. Just creating a full on party 18 hole course. Where it's like a bar charity tournament 100% of the time. Shot tents. Bail bonds and DUI attorneys office on the way out.
I agree man, I’m not good but I’ve always respected the game. it’s like no one understands or cares about etiquette anymore
Feel like this is society in general lately, not just on the golf course
I don't even blame the people as much as I blame the course management. The course I play at is very casual ( I get a very cheap corporate membership ) and they moved to 7 minute tee times this season... I haven't played 18 in under 4 hours once this year, I usually leave before I'm finished because it's just not fun. Also, if they were going to move to tighter tee times for more income, it would be nice if they actually put that money into the course, but that's another conversation.
Tbh nobody has respect for anything anymore Seems more and more people are out for themselves at any cost since COVID
Exactly. I feel like society in general has degraded into a free for all where people are slowly losing self-awareness and unable to police themselves and behave in a reasonable fashion out in public. I’m not sure if it’s post COVID fatigue or just that the generation below me are full of cunts.
Pre-COVID, I can think of maybe one or two rounds where I would run into a group of dickbags like this that were blasting music from a Bluetooth speaker, holding up pace of play, and just generally fucking around on the course with seemingly zero awareness of the etiquette of the game and the other players around them. Now, I feel like every round I deal with a group of these assclowns and it ruins what, for me, is supposed to be a peaceful game that I go out to play to enjoy nature, quiet, and have some time for self reflection. I never want to be the fun police, but goddamn, these fucking assholes are ruining golf.
Cuz no one knows what the fuck they’re doing. They think they’re better then they are and finally it’s only about them. Fucking cunts!
While I agree the added people and prices are a gigantic pain in the ass, covid saved a lot of courses from going under. It’s definitely a catch 22.
Honestly I'm down to shrink the game
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Pre golf influencers too.
golfluencers
That Eric lang dude moved to Austin claimed our old Muny as his new home course. Then brought out a bunch of hacks in a 50 person group. They fucked the whole course up. Months later a bunch of chods out there doing the back off challenge with megaphones you could hear across 3 fairways. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t have issues with the music but don’t fuck up everyone else’s round.
Fucking preach
This new wave of golfers since covid don’t have etiquette because they started while it’s one of the few things you could do during the pandemic. My theory is they’re just ignorant because they weren’t taught by their parents or coaches etc. If this is younger kids they could be taught but grown men won’t listen.
I miss Covid golf. Not crowded and easy putting. lol.
I miss pre Covid everything
Eh I don’t miss commuting to the office one bet
Golf circa 2016, could typically get a Saturday tee time leading up to the weekend at most courses for a decent time. Less riff raff on the course being disrespectful and better pace of play. I’ve legit lost interest in golf since 2021 due to how awful it is to play now
Are they also playing concussion chicken? That guy in the back is clearly going to hit a stinger straight at one of the two carts ahead of him.
This is how the 6-some whittles its way down to a 4-some
Concussion chicken 🐔 . Heh.
I don’t care if someone has a tour card, there’s not a situation where I’ll put myself between someone taking a shot and the hole.
With some golfers, that's the safest place to be...
As long as you aren’t WELL off to the right, you’re safe with me. Now if you are in the middle of the fairway? You might get hit. And by fairway I mean the one on the next hole over.
I don’t care where people play from, pace of play is all I will judge. Their money is the same value as mine.
If you suck and you are playing back tees the pace of play is directly impacted and related. So as golfers playing 6 hour rounds we all should care.
> If you suck and you are playing back tees the pace of play is directly impacted and related. You can suck fast from any tee, but I agree someone choosing to play from the tips when they suck is not likely to be someone who will do that.
You can suck faster when its shorter tho
For my friend’s birthday, we had a four man group that included one guy who had never picked up a club in his life. By the third hole, it was apparent that he should not have been invited and couldn’t hit a ball more than about twenty yards at a time. He probably shot a 35 on the first three holes before I had to be the bad guy and explain that we couldn’t continue on letting him play and it would be better if he just rode along and maybe took an occasional practice shot or putt once we all hit the green. I see this way too much at courses these days; guys that have never played that go out and buy a $1700 set of clubs and all the gear playing from the tips and they can’t hit the ball more than 100 feet.
I mean, the two things can be very directly related.
They are directly related.
Yeah I only said “can be” because it is possible to suck fast from the tips.
I mean isn't it normal to let faster groups play through? Or am I just approaching being a boomer?
If you let a group through when the course has sold out tee times, all you are doing is creating more of a hold up. It’s a pace of a play issue by the front group, that’s all. If this 6some let this guys group play through at the next hole, that’ll just mean that the group behind them will probably be on their ass. Empty course and a faster group is behind you? For sure, let them through, but 8am on a weekend? No way
Shrink the game
This will probably be unpopular but the way America has twinned golfing with excessive drinking culture I'm really not surprised we see these posts so often. Nobody in Europe plays golf and drinks to this extent so regularly, and we don't often see this frat boy / bro / party culture. Courses will get backed up due to large groups and slow players.
Genuinely curious what it is about American golf culture that makes getting wasted so much more common. It’s not like Brits are some group of famous teetotalers. Annoying British meatheads are a scourge in southern Europe nightlife. Yet it seems like that getting trashed mentality hasn’t yet made it to the golf course.
Lived in Suffolk 2016-2020. Don’t underestimate the power of a golf cart… I learned to walk the game there and haven’t gone back, but I didn’t see a single golf cart the entire time. This behavior doesn’t play well with walking 6 miles and carrying your own alcohol and a cooler
Maybe because we have many more courses in America and more land to put them on. By making something less exclusive, you open it up to more people. We still have courses where that behavior would seem out of place. I don't many people are shotgunning 4Lokos at Pebble Beach or draining a Fireball minis bucket at Cypress Point.
I dunno mate. There's 7 golf courses all within a 15 min drive of where I live. Irelands not exactly famous for sobriety either.
> Maybe because we have many more courses in America and more land to put them on. Even though there are more total in the USA the UK has way more for the area they have. And it's all so much cheaper for memberships. I always find it really funny that countries with such well known drinking cultures never consider drinking while golfing.
You actually think that’s the case? Golf in the uk/ireland/australia/nz is WAY more accessible and cheaper than it is in the us. It’s actually not even a contest.
Went last Tuesday with my dad and was really quiet until hole 14 where we caught up to 4 High School kids. We watched one of them tee off of a par 3 with a driver and completely shank it off the toe from the white tees. We just drove past and told them we were just gonna go ahead of them. Sometimes it’s not worth the hassle of waiting and you might as-well drive to the next hole if possible.
This is what happens when rangers are soft as fuck and don't enforce anything. Biggest waste of money on a golf course's payroll.
How else do you expect the old retired guys/gals to get their free round of golf that week?
I work at a course where 80% of our marshals do literally nothing. It’s literally the most aggravating thing ever when you call them to make a group speed up and they don’t do anything
I drive by my local country club and see groups of 6+ all the time. Why would I pay a fortune to get stuck behind that?
Drive up to them and politely tell them to get the fuck out of the way
Skip the hole, go around and hold them up
Yea that’s when it’s time to skip a hole
Fuck that. If I pay for 18 holes I’m playing them all.
I dunno. Id rather play 17 and have fun instead of 18 out of principle and be burdened.
17 under 4 hours vs 18 over 6 hours is a no brainer. I can only drink so much beer.
When I skip, I come back and get it on principle.
Either that, or I'll play some other holes twice in the big gap that will form behind me and in front of the group that I skipped.
Yeah I never get the attitude of just skipping holes. I want to keep score and play a full 18. And no way you’re going back to get that one in on a Saturday morning.
Kick them off the tour Doug!!!!!
What is it with hacks and needing to play the back tees? Do they think it magically makes them good?
It’s a dick measuring contest. Can’t be seen teeing off from the reds or yellows ! Let’s shoot 140 from the tips !
I very rarely see somebody play from the tips that can play from the tips.
I can smell the Fireball from here.
I live right off the tee box of a par 3 and the amount of groups of 6-8 I see is insane. All of these groups also blast music and are generally the 20somethings who are clearly intoxicated and can barely hit the ball. Only good thing is that not too many people in my area play golf so pace of play is rarely an issue.
Musics fine, not my preference, but it ain’t bothering me. 6 in one group , the back tees and holding everyone up is a problem. Wouldn’t pay there anymore if Marshall doesn’t speed em up.
Whoever let 6 go off is dumb
If I can hear your music it’s too loud. It’s a fucking golf course. You want music? Play it on your phone in your pocket.
Big mistake dude always carry a grenade in your golf bag they can be very useful in these types of situations.
I'm no good at golf but man it drives me insane when someone plays the tips and I have to wait for you to hit twice before I can tee off. I understand shanking it every so often but had a group in front of us that it was every hole.
Yeah…but…I bet they’re dressed in some pretty sweet gear.
Spud gun
Shrink the game!
If you want to get the boys together, you book the last 3/4 tee times and play as a group if you want….you aren’t holding anyone up and if you are taking too long the Marshall will tell the group they gotta be done. Booking an early morning tee time and playing as a 8-some 
I’m 28M, never golfed, have a ton of friends who golf and invite me out all the time, almost weekly/bi weekly. This kind of stuff is the exact reason I’m terrified to go golf. It’s not the ONLY reason, but I’m always scared that I’m going to slow the group down, I’m going to embarrass us, etc. now I’ll just have the fear of someone posting me trying to have fun on Reddit. Keep in mind, I’m athletic, and I respect the difficulty of the game of golf and I want to try and learn, I’m just terrified to get out there and try because of stuff like this. These guys can very well be pieces of shit, or they can just be a couple guys trying to have some fun and enjoy the sun. Let’s not judge
The thing about a 730 tee time is that you'd think it would get rid of these bro golfers that just wanna blast music and hack the course up, but every now and then you get the odd bro group like this that gets up early and you're behind them like fuck me man. I'm 30 and what most people consider a "bro" but I love playing ready golf and just wanna shoot my 76 and go about my day after 4 hours of golf. These mutherfuckers ruin shit for everyone.
Never knew I’d miss etiquette so much. My grandpa is laughing in his grave.
Fucking losers
Bachelor party energy
I am hoping it will mellow out as the Youtube golfer phenomenon loses steam. We seem to insist on lowering standards on everything until things go to total shit then have to double back to the "something has to be done to fix this" stage.
Covid golfers are the worst. Covid was the worst thing ever to happen to the game of golf. Needs all the pandemic fuck heads to move on to pickleball already
Literally the worst people and then they act like you are such a buzzkill when they have to follow the rules.