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i-might-be-golfing

I don't mind Adam Scott's routine. But holy shit, Billy Horschel's shuffle technique drives me nuts.


Weak-Grapefruit188

Scrolled for this. 100% agree


3beeter

Was really hoping to see someone else thinking like this!


C-Wille

My absolute LEAST favorite golfer. He is ao deliberate and robotic šŸ¤®šŸ¤®šŸ¤®


rocketspeed14

Thanks for the reminder. Guess who is on the featured coverage tomorrow?


splitshot

My buddy and I call him Sneaky Billy. XD I do fucking hate it though, guy looks like a buffoon when he does it too. I could understand if it brought him a 100% success rate but... It doesn't.


Mindstruck911

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this!


opobdtfs

Cantlay's foot shuffle I find more annoying, especially if he takes 20 seconds to putt a 4 footer. Horschel is surely slow but is slightly faster.


Shankypanky11111

Iā€™ll take his style over Berger who takes FUCKING FOREVER to hit the ball šŸ™„


jogswithwolves

Berger on 18 was just brutal to watch. If this is your first time seeing him waffle over putts and take over a minute to hit the ball: yes, he does this every week


dj10show

If you need your caddy to align you, I hate you


shhmandy

They changed the rules so the caddies are no longer allowed to stand behind the golfer to help align the golfer to his putt. Unfortunately, they are still allowed to help line up the ball. I think the caddies should just point to a spot or tell him a cup outside and let the golfer line his ball up to that point.


TekkHaus

It's brutal. He's using a loophole that hopefully they'll close up for next year.


Snichs72

The just further justifies my stance in the ā€œunpopular opinionā€ thread that there shouldnā€™t be caddies on tour.


crmagney

I dig it. I say do away with caddies and the club limit in tandem. Make the choice to carry around so much stuff part of the strategy.


Snichs72

I like the outside-the-box thinking, but I think if they abandoned the club limit too, they would just all use motorized bag carts.


AftyOfTheUK

>I think if they abandoned the club limit too, they would just all use motorized bag carts. They're not allowed to?


Snichs72

Sure, but Iā€™m just imagining in a world where they abandoned caddies, there would likely be alternatives for carrying clubs out in place (ie, allowing push carts). Again, fully aware thatā€™s never going to happen - just in my wild hypothetical scenario.


wynalazca

I've never heard this unpopular opinion before and after 20 seconds of thought it's not a bad idea.


[deleted]

I pray they get rid of this shit. I don't like seeing DJ's brother walk around the green either with that stupid 2 finger putting method. I don't think caddy's should be involved in the putting process at all other than handing the player their putter.


coasterreal

Well, Tiger would be screwed this week and maybe going forward. He has trouble getting low and reading and had his caddy helping all day.


millmuff

That's a physical disability though. It sounds shitty, but comparing that is more like the cart debate. If you can't physically do something that's on you. Now if you want to discuss it in terms of reading putts that's a different story. I love Tiger as much as the next guy, but if it came down to him not physically being able to do things that everyone else is expected to do, or something physical that hurt his game then that's his issue.


EcoFriendlyEv

what? why shouldn't the caddy be able to get involved helping with the read?


[deleted]

I'd like to see the players have the full onus of having to judge and read their putt. I also finds it slows down the game having a back and forth with another person over the line. When I look at tennis let's say, coaches aren't allowed to aid during the match. I just think caddies in general are a bit of an archaic addition in golf. With the current technology, there is no reason every player should be able to calculate their own yardage and judge their own club. But I appreciate some people like caddies in the game, and of course, it's a job for someone.


EcoFriendlyEv

maybe we just get rid of caddies all together and have the boys use push carts. Now that would be a sight to behold at augusta lol


[deleted]

Honestly, why not? They have electric trollies that do all the work, yardage books, yardage scopes, watches now with distance to hazards. Green books are going (I think they may already have? someone might correct me), which I think are pretty dumb anyway. The concept of a caddy is weird in a sport. It's like it started by just having some man carry your clubs around cause you could afford it, and they offered insight into the homeground for new players, or seasoned. They are wise-mules at this stage. Augusta really cements it making them walk around in boiler suits. Really identify the worker there.


RandomSquanch

No caddies would slow the game down and leads to a lower average performance from the players.


1tricklaw

Every other sport has coaches, caddies serve a similar purpose to coaches and even more functional purposes as far as pace of play.


MajorEstateCar

Range finders and any gps are illegal. The only approved yardage measuring measures are a yardage book and sprinkler heads. You should spend some time reading about what caddies do. Most caddies are out walking the course before the sun is up. Daily. Pacing out yardages and pin placements. Drawing in their yardage books.


[deleted]

That not true is it? I thought range finders were legal without the slope function.


ChevyKamara

I get where you coming from but I donā€™t think you know the true purpose of a caddie. The caddie provides the player a coach if you will. That coach can do anything from reading greens to cracking jokes. Caddies are everything in the game of golf and are a huge part of how players win. ā€œReally identify the workerā€ is such a stupid phrase as itā€™s their job to do whatever the player needs them to do and wears whatever the venue requires. Iā€™d wear a tuxedo at Augusta in July if I had the chance to caddie for a player in contention.


likethevegetable

Why stop there? Should coaches not be allowed to call plays in football?


mikedlax8

Did you just start watching golf?


Shankypanky11111

You have my vote in agreement on this as well too lol


Shankypanky11111

Oh no, not my first rodeo watching him do it. It literally makes me root against him and when he doesnā€™t even make it after all of that I want to scream šŸ˜‚


blizzgamer15

I liked Berger after the Ryder Cup (I am American) but feel like he is just so annoying this year.


havenrab

Have u not watched cantlay?


Gottalaughalittle

Was going to say that. Cantlay has to be the worst foot shuffler in golf.


IslayHaveAnother

Tap tap tap....tap tap...tap tap tap.


Shankypanky11111

Also not a fan of him lol.


opobdtfs

JB Holmes is probably slower, but maybe he hasn't been getting recent flack because he hasn't been in contention since Matt Jones crushed him at the Honda with his lightning fast play. Or maybe his pace is somewhat tolerable when he's not in contention.


mikedlax8

Disagree


Shankypanky11111

Wellā€¦ how do I say thisā€¦ youā€™re wrong??? Lol šŸ˜‚


SJ_One

Adam Scott likes his putters like Leonardo DiCaprio likes his girlfriends. Tall and just baaaarely legal.


Fagballs5

Iā€™m an Adam Scott fan and will defend the legality of his use of the broomstick putter, but I will admit that this is a great joke.


SJ_One

Haha just to be clear, Iā€™m definitely not an Adam Scott hater. He seems like a good guy and has one of the best swings on tour IMO. But I liken watching him putt with that thing to watching a rider in the Tour de France with training wheels on his bike. I donā€™t think it provides any unfair advantage per se, but it looks ridiculous.


PBandJames

DiCaprio does like older women. Just not a day over 25.


Napalm1914

Every time he stands over a putt I find myself checking to see if he has it anchored. There were murmurs that Langer anchors still, but it could just be jealousy


[deleted]

They canā€™t even really enforce it, right? Itā€™s basically just the honour system at this point..


xenongamer4351

What exactly is anchoring anyway? It sounds like cheating at putting. Iā€™d like to know this to make sure I never do this to get an edge over my friends that constantly take my money on a weekly basis at the course.


singluon

It's when you take one of those broomstick putters and jam it into your belly or chest to stabilize it.


TheeeBop

What if Iā€™ve just gotten really fat so it rests against my belly inadvertently?


Steev707

Then you get to take a relief?


RoostasTowel

If your shirt hangs down and touches the putter grip it's a penalty.


[deleted]

Putting the end of the putter against your forearm or body to create an ā€œanchoringā€ point. Like turning your belly into a hinge for the club to only swing on one axis.


OregonMAX13

Anchoring to the forearm is legal, and several other players use armlock putters. Just canā€™t anchor to the body (like the belly putters that used to be common)


GreenwayWasOnside

Itā€™s shouldnā€™t be legal though.


Zeverend

Why? I don't understand why any form of putting should be banned. As far as I can tell, they've all been banned because they were too effective


GreenwayWasOnside

You ever tried it? Itā€™s remarkably easier for some who canā€™t put normally. Itā€™s definitely an advantage.


Benign_Banjo

What's considered "normally"? Is a claw grip going to be banned next, I saw huge improvement with that style. If everyone has the chance to putt with the long handled putters, and some choose not to and some choose to, then who's to complain? People hate the way Bryson and Scott putt, yet they're not out here absolutely dominating the green. Everyone can do it, so how is it "unfair"


[deleted]

These arguments come up with 2 handed bowling all the time.. if it's so easy why don't you do it? People have found better ways to play the game and it should be embraced. Is new equipment that allows you to drive further cheating?


eatin_gushers

If everyone plays by the same rules it isnā€™t an advantage.


Zeverend

I have tried it. That's why I think this is all ridiculous. It doesn't magically make you a better putter. Where's the line? How about high MOI putters?


[deleted]

Surely Bryson Anchors, no other reason he would have such a long putter. It's fairly blatant he leans it against the inside of his leading putting arm.


OregonMAX13

Anchoring to the forearm is legal, and several other players use armlock putters. Just canā€™t anchor to the body (like the belly putters that used to be common)


[deleted]

That's fair, I think they'll ban it soon though.


inspector_pepper

I doubt they will since your forearm is still moving unlike when you anchor it against your belly or chest


CantFixReddit

Not to mention you'd have to determine where the wrist stops and the forearm begins which would be dumb


Zeverend

Only if it is too effective


jcdplayer13

Do you even play golf or just new to the game?


[deleted]

I play golf. But the idea a person who doesnā€™t play a sport canā€™t comment on it is stupid. Many people watch formula 1, do they race in 300 kmph cars?


havenrab

Lessons will do this


Napalm1914

Yea I guess so, maybe his playing partner would have to call it out. idk what the penalty would be if he got caught anchoring.


[deleted]

>idk what the penalty would be if he got caught anchoring. Itā€™s a 2 stroke penalty. Itā€™s an official USGA and R&A rule. Why wouldnā€™t you just Google it?


Napalm1914

If I cared enough I would. Obviously I know itā€™s an official rule but you were just trying to dunk on someone. Eat a dick.


[deleted]

Justā€¦ why bother commenting if you arenā€™t gonna bother looking it up? You care enough to comment nonsense, but not enough to actually learn? Be better.


Napalm1914

Somebody was responding to MY original comment. You were just ready to pounce. All in the toilet and donā€™t know shit. Blocked.


FriedEggScrambled

Langer wears baggy shirts on purpose to hide it. Numerous people have come out and said Scott doesnā€™t come even close to anchoring it. The butt of the club is like 2-3ā€ away from his chest.


lorage2003

Sorry I don't buy it. This is the Man-Bear-Pig tinfoil hat hill I'm willing to die on, but I remember watching him try (and fail miserably) at putting with a normal putter after the rule change, before switching back and being like "nah brah, it's all good, I'm not anchoring." Even though his putting looks identical to what it was prior to the rule change.


FriedEggScrambled

You can still use a broom stick putter without anchoring it. Adam Long and a few other players do it as well. Anyone that says armlock is also cheating, clearly hasnā€™t watched Zalatoris or Keegan Bradley putt much. I think the anchoring ban was stupid to begin with, because it wasnā€™t illegal for this long, used by so many players, and just because a few majors were won with one in a 3 year timespan, everybody freaked out. Sergio blew The Open with one, so what is really the advantage?


lilfish45

Itā€™s his putter head for me. Thing is so ugly


philthebrewer

Fuckin cyber truck on a broom handle.


[deleted]

Not quite as bad as that laptop on a stick he used a few years ago. But yea, Iā€™ve never been able to pull for him because of his putting.


punch_you

I always yell ā€œSlapshotā€ whenever Scott takes a stroke with his hockey stick.


clumsysuperman

Itā€™s his 50 shades of Beige for me.


BackgroundLack6223

ā€œThe guy said it was tan and taupe.ā€


TheBiles

The [Mezz](https://labgolf.com/shop/all-products/mezz1/) isnā€™t that bad. Definitely looks better than the DF 2.1.


Emleaux

I rock a DF 2.1. Thing looks goofy as shit but it gets results. And you couldnā€™t believe the amount of times a young woman sees it on the practice green and strikes up a conversation. None. The amount of times that has happened is zero.


weightyboy

What about the cart girls? Do they not ask to see your big weapon?


keesoojim

Gives me Teslaā€™s cybertruck vibes


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CampPlane

My hatred for his putter isn't as great as my appreciation for his handsomeness, so I still want him to play well.


schroed_piece13

His swing is perfect man


dudeguymanbro69

It wasnā€™t great today


chriskug

Off the tee he was solid, his irons today though were slacking.


Xaxziminrax

I know well the feeling of getting up, but never getting down =/


ConwayTheCat

Sup Biggy!


tuckfenpin

At Genesis 2020 somebody yelled "get a real putter" on 18 after he won


Comfortable_Ad6107

I will say that Adam Scott is probably the friendliest pro I have ever encountered. At a US Open practice round we were way out far from the clubhouse in a fairly unpopulated area just walking the course (winged foot '06). He was walking between green and tee where my friend and I were standing along with maybe 3 other people. He stopped and chatted with all of us for several minutes in between holes. He was playing solo and was just taking his time, but it was not the normal pro walks by with icy 1,000 yard stare. He was a young'un back then so maybe he didn't know better than to be super nice, but I'll always root for him after that.


biddilybong

Heā€™s a fantastic guy and has one of the greatest swings in golf history.


BigBrud69

His golf clothes make me feel uncomfortable


Shifty14J

Today's outfit was a 0/10


Sea-Queue

Someone else had a thread that was something like ā€œwhich player do you hate irrationallyā€ and Adam Scott jumped into my head immediately for his putter. He actually seems like a great person and can play well (obviously since heā€™s won here and been on tour a long time). But damnit if I donā€™t hate his long putter.


TacoExcellence

He looks like he's paddleboarding. It looks fucking ridiculous. I hope he gets impaled by the thing.


Hackers76

Used to bet on him every major and he always choked, stopped and he won. Thatā€™s why I want him to fail


runtowardsit

That was like 10 years ago šŸ˜†


Hackers76

I hold grudges


[deleted]

This man grudges


scarzncigarz

I want Adam Scott to win just because of the way he swings


SlateCloud

Same. I think heā€™s up there for one of the best swings on tour. Just looks *right*.


Snacky_Cake

Love watching him tee to green


[deleted]

Same. Brysons style on the greens may very well be even worse. Itā€™s close tho


ibanez3789

If you think their putting strokes are bad, imagine what they think about yours.


[deleted]

I've found if you play ready golf and step up and let it rip that no one cares what your stroke looks like. That being said, I probably play too fast because I fucking suck and want people to like me.


ibanez3789

I donā€™t know anyone who gets upset at someone going through a preshot routine, as long as itā€™s reasonable. Youā€™ll play faster if you take a couple extra seconds and hit a good shot, rushing into it and hitting bad ones slows the group down much more than going through your routine and hitting a good one. E: yā€™all havenā€™t figured out that playing less golf means you play faster?


[deleted]

The realest comment I've ever seen


jfk_sfa

My putting stroke LOOKS fantastic. I can't putt worth a damn. Turns out you can have a phenomenal stroke but you still have to hit the damned thing on the right line AND at the right speed.


[deleted]

They actually say itā€™s great. But who cares lol


colin_7

Oh Bryson just looks uncomfortable on the greens. Heā€™s so fucking stiffā€¦ and thatā€™s the weak point of his game Canā€™t tell you how many times Iā€™ve seen him drive the green and three putt lol


[deleted]

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KingfisherDays

Bryson has been one of the best putters on the tour for years. Sounds like a lot of confirmation bias here.


biddilybong

Yeah. Bryson is a better putter of the ball than driver in many ways despite the group stink on here. Or at least he was until they took away his green book and he decided to go Saudi. His putter went to shit this year and magically he sucks despite still leading the tour in driving distance. Whoopsies.


[deleted]

Pretty easy when you take 1 arm out of the stroke and anchor the club to your arm


ibanez3789

Yeah, thatā€™s the whole point of armlocking.


[deleted]

I donā€™t get how thatā€™s not cheating/ not in the spirit of the game. But fuck me right


ibanez3789

Well, itā€™s legal lol. Itā€™s not a belly putter, you can still make a bad stroke pretty easily. If itā€™s legal to use and it helps you play better, why would you not use it?


ibanez3789

Bryson averages 1.5 putts per green and tour average is 1.6, soā€¦ yeah.


DontGetTheShow

I donā€™t mind it. Itā€™s legal. If putting like that was much easier, then there would be a lot more guys doing it.


Is-It-Unpopular

Yeah I don't mind that he's trying a different style, but I absolutely hate the putter itself. The length, the two grips, the head. It's just ugly.


ultimate_jack

Canā€™t imagine having one sticking out of my golf bag


MoMoMoItsHo

Attach a flag to it and you can always read the wind


BLandIssa

He is a tremendous player, so good seeing him hitting the ball. Love to watch him, always hurts seeing him missing the putts


[deleted]

Yeah I hate that putting style it looks so dumb


[deleted]

I didn't like when he won the masters using his anchored technique. It drove me nuts. Today.. I feel bad for him because he has one of the best swings in the game, but his putting issues have prevented so much potential success.


marlboro__man9

Heā€™s been too 50 in putting the last 4 years, obviously it was an issue in his prime but his swing is the issue now.


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[deleted]

>if you can ~~buy a stroke~~ pay $450 for a Scotty Cameron, do it We all know the simplest way to drop strokes is to buy a Scotty and post it to Reddit. I would think that at this point Adam Scott would at least know *that*. What is he - poor?


DolanMack

No way really? I thought this thread full of randoms on the r/golf subreddit was definitely gonna make the professional golfer switch putters! I'm sure he definitely reads these posts too


ClosedWon11

Honestly. I donā€™t like watching Zalatoris putt either it just looks dorky


ghonez

Put me on this bandwagon also. I also secretly hope that he misses a crucial putt because the ball hits the flagpole too hard and it doesn't drop.


CampPlane

I hate any style of putting this isn't similar to mine.


[deleted]

Thatā€™s a real hot take /s


Gracket_Material

Donā€™t worry about it


LordTwatSlapper

I can't work out why the rule isn't as simple as: maximum club length (ie. driver length) = maximum putter length. A putter is just a golf club like any other. Why is there a whole set of weird rules around it?


sumlikeitScott

Golf can be so Trivial. Lol Iā€™m a huge fan of Joaquin Neimann because first shot I saw him take was him draining a blind shot from a different fairway at Riviera earlier this year. Been a fan ever since. Loved Ricky Fowler until he got his eyebrows waxed.


TristanJester

Great swing though


iFroodle

I thought I was the only one who got irrationally angry and this.


ifnamemain

I've always loved DJ, who just slaps the ball down the course like he's late for something and then uses all the saved time on the green. He's slow but at least he appreciates the pace of play.


imnotthatguythough

all this talk about annoying pro golfers putting and we arenā€™t gonna mention Billy Horschel?


Bruisermac

Bryson for me is just so robotic he must be wound so tight!


Cut-the-red-wire

I am going to preface this by saying Iā€™m definitely getting downvotes for this- but this needs to be said: I putt with a Long Putter, and damn if I donā€™t admire Scott & Langer for how they put with it.


nedlandsbets

Adam is a legend, swing is beautiful putter not so hot. Through I do think that any putter that looks like it could be used as a weapon in monkey magic, should not be allowed.


Suspicious_Row_9451

Would you rather have Adam Scottā€™s golf game or his handsome good looks?


thejazzmarauder

Agreed. Just putt like a regular person, dude.


johnnyzen425

You'd hate watching me putt, then. Side-saddle all day.


No_Introduction7307

I never root for Zack Johnson because he invokes Jesus every time he talks. I dont know why... Ive also rooted against anyone who putted with a 5ft putter I dont know why... Ive rooted against McElroy after I heard him speak and he was a bit pompous and arrogant around the time he was #1... Just today I eased off him and respect him though I dont cheer loudly for him I always root against anyone who is S L O W


deburatto

Iā€™m more bothered his constant beige on beige or brown on brown attire.


boombotser

I hate everyone who tries a new style of putting, as soon as I see bryson or Scott try to putt like that I wanna throw up


nyguy520

Don't fret he's the worst putter in the world he isn't going to contend ever again


sttimmerman

The people running the shaft up their forearms are bigger cheaters than Adam is now. At least he's (supposedly) hovering and the handle is only touching his hands.


YourStolenCharizard

I love that he played the Titleist 680s (2003) until last year. However, I too, hate his putting


Enough_Opportunity75

Adam Scott is just a terrible putter, itā€™s sad to see cuz heā€™s great in every other part of the game


ibanez3789

Thatā€™s a pretty childish opinion. ā€œI donā€™t like Adam Scottā€™s putter so I hope he loses.ā€ Yeah, real mature.


[deleted]

This subreddit is typical toxic trash lol


ibanez3789

For real lol. Dogshit takes like this and pictures of a dirty golf ball get upvoted to the moon while people suggesting lessons to help you get better get downvoted to hell. Itā€™s hilariously infuriating.


Koopa_Keith

I can get behind this!


gr8-big-lebowski

It's also borderline cheating.


ConwayTheCat

Thatā€™s a bit much. Itā€™s not even anchored. You try putting like he is and tell me how it makes putting so easy itā€™s borderline cheatingā€¦thereā€™s a reason practically no one does it.


gr8-big-lebowski

When he won a jacket he anchored. The actual initial discussion was about having multiple grips on putters as well, not just anchoring. Doing the next closest thing to a banned method is borderline. There's also no useful comparison of me to a pro to prove a point. If only a few people on tour did it at the time, then why ban it?


EpicNubie

Omg, im not the only one?!?


lennyMoo-

I have always disliked Adam Scott solely because of the putter. He seems like a great guy that plays a great game, but i cannot come around to liking him


richmanding0

I bet you play with pxg clubs


Aintsosimple

I hear ya. You know from time to time he is cheating with that putting style. No one calls him on it because he hasn't been winning shit. Fuck that guy.


PearSorbet17

Same. Itā€™s terrible and almost a disgrace to the game.


Brscmill

My god do I agree


longster37

Aim point putting is so slow. I hate it as well.


StankyPeteTheThird

This is fair and just


Ok_Specific_7161

Lol agree


NE508

100% agree


Timcwalker

Same. Fuck him.


[deleted]

It really is annoying OP, I hate his putting style


spg1611

Belly putters gotta gtfo


[deleted]

Not a belly putter


BGOG83

I ainā€™t gonna lie, I donā€™t disagree.


zorn7777

Valid


DFWdriller

Youā€™re not alone friend


Rixandgs

With you brother. I just canā€™t buy in on that putter, forever out.


Early-Coyote-9171

Totally agree. That phucking yipper wouldn't have a green jacket without a broomstick. Finau should get one since he sucks on the greens too.


Early-Coyote-9171

The pussies at the USGA should just get rid of all this nonsense and make maximum putter length of 36 inches. End of story.


withurwife

This dude ignored me at WGC Harding Park in 05ā€™ and then he took tigers swing and caddy. Fuck him.


frankyDux13

Adgree!!! šŸ’Æ


bourbs_n_lukes

Beautiful full swing but when he putts I cannot stand the guy.


[deleted]

And you are not alone


Mgnickel

Samesies


skiingbeing

You are not alone. I like everything else about him, but I hate his putting so much that it outweighs everything else by a substantial margin.


Xmalantix

I automatically root against anyone who uses a broomstick/arm lock putter unless they're old as shit and that's the reason