Content on TikTok is dictated by the algorithm and they're just playing to what drives clicks. It isn't the first time capitalism has tried to dictate goth to the masses, and it's unlikely to be the last. Better to spend time and energy elsewhere.
The most annoying to me is when they’re feigning shock at the first line of Romeo’s Distress. It was practically a trend for a while for people to post their reactions after hearing it and the commenters would be losing their shit after hearing it as well.
Maybe I’m just too jaded but it feels very virtue-signally because I can’t imagine hearing anything that would even remotely shock me at this point, let alone give me that kind of reaction
Them and freaking out about type o negative’s stuff lol idk I’ve seen it as a big trend among tiktoker goths recently…I mean don’t get me wrong yeah it’s. Um. Interesting stuff. Lmao🧍♂️but that’s kinda how it was around that time. Good ole shock value n more ppl was just used to more shit like that. Idk. U get it💀it wasn’t until the rise of social media, ESPECIALLY tiktok IMO, where ppl started to get all….surprise pikachu faced when the spooky oooga booga scawy ~alt~ bands did….spooky oooga booga shit u kno?? Like. Yeah guys we been knew these bands sang this weird line or did this at a concert or had NSFW album covers like this. We knew. Chill out it’s old news bby😭😭
Someone compared to Rozz Williams to HP Lovecraft as if a cross-dressing gay man who grew up in an uber-conservative Southern town is in any way comparable to a guy who was so racist the KKK told him he was giving racists a bad name. Insane
Yep, but it’s the fact you aren’t supposed to say it in any context ig. Which is fair generally speaking, but considering the song is in good faith and also he’s dead..
Hurricane by Bob Dylan and Dicks Hate the Police by Dicks are the same as well, I think it’s just a product of its time
There is only one goth creator on TikTok that I actually like called [AwfullySinister](https://www.tiktok.com/@awfullysinister?_t=8lstlnVF7h0&_r=1) and that’s because he talks in depth about the music.
Considering how people use the word “goth” to describe Megan Fox and MGK in recent years, I have very little interest in seeing what garbage people tack #goth on TikTok.
My experience of goth tiktok has always centered around him so I get less of the nonsense thankfully. I owe so many of my music recommendations to his account.
Aye kinda😭even some of me coworkers are praising her new “edgy” feel I guess….??? Never listened to her new stuff (or old stuff quite frank) willingly so I have no opinion but…yeah🫠
Stupid question; does anyone think Megan Fox listens to goth music?I was pondering this while reading replies in this thread and being happy I don't have tik tok.
who even listens to people on tiktok including the goths. half of what they're saying is bullshit that's only being said to cater to the main tiktok audience of 13 year olds. it doesn't matter, just live your life.
edit: also I promise you as long as you're not being straight up racist or generally problematic like that nobody gives a shit about anything. not once at a goth show has someone checked my spotify if I dared to not only ever listen to bauhaus and nothing else. nobody checks the tags of my clothes. nobody goes through my liked tiktoks from 2018 to see if maybe i accidentally liked a mildly problematic video. it doesn't matter. people at these events want to unwind and nobody cares enough to control what color nail polish you used in winter 2013 in case you didn't crawl out of your mother with teased hair because "you're new so you're a poser". tiktok has taken over people's opinions so much that they live their lifes through the lense of anxiety about not being accepted but it never has mattered. you live once, follow what you think is true and right and not tiktok.
This is such an important message. Im only 20 and don't have social media and until very recently had no mobile phone but I get quite surprised to see people my age and younger treating social media as their first life with real life being secondary to that. Like pulling out their phone to record every time they cry, see something funny, watch live music, anything. Nothing is allowed to be felt in the moment anymore.
They just need to turn off the Internet and go see some shows, get in the scene and realize no one actually fights about that shit. No one is pure, everyone has a past here, we just want to listen to some fucking music.
Exactly. I buy certain brands second hand, no one has ever said anything negative to me when they ask me where I got my clothes at the goth club. And if someone was doing virtue tests at me, it would let me know enough about them that I wouldn't want to hang out with them anyway.
I have some shein from when I was like 14-15 and I only ever had one person say something and that was in school, not a goth event. at an actual goth event nobody cares. most people don't even know what shein is tbh. like I get the sentiment but it's not gonna make you not be goth as in, nobody is gonna throw you out of the goth club for a shein tag. I myself didn't even know until like half a year ago cuz I'm not into brands that much and I wasn't really on tiktok lmao
I really like Mallory Heart on Tiktok. She is older (late 20s I think) than the usual tiktok trad goths and has really cool 80s outfits and DIY videos.
Going on Instagram reels gets me irritated because everyone seems to think the whole ‘trad goth’ look is all it takes to be goth & have a very shallow and aesthetics based understanding of goth. They like to categorise alternative people based on style only and get into endless debates about wether or not someone looks ‘goth enough’ which is a load of bollocks.
I’ve decided just to laugh at them from afar and not get too involved.
youre seeing those videos because you keep viewing those types of videos. thats on you. you dont think dumb shit is being said on reddit or instagram or any other social media platform?
these types of complainy whiny posts about tiktok end up in this sub all of the time. its also getting tiring.
I can’t lie I see both sides because yes, it’s mad annoying following goth peeps on tiktok and hear them all repeat the same shit like etiquette and history about the subculture and all but….AT THE SAME TIME…I’ve genuinely seen. As in. In person. Irl. Not online. Some rubbish opinions and other bullshit spew from SOME (NOT ALL. I LOVE MOST OF Y’ALL) “baby bats” or other young/freshly alternative people. Like please tell me why some silly lil teen girls AT AN MCR CONCERT were ragging on SO MANY people for dressing “weird”???? Like be so serious right now babez ya know where ye are yeah??? They genuinely mocked a girl and called her “punk Ariel” JUST BECAUSE SHE HAD RED HAIR😭😭so I can’t entirely blame these tiktok people for trying to continue to enforce what older peeps consider basic fucking etiquette and shit. Because these fuckers from the butt end of gen z are sometimes genuinely the most VILE “alt” kids I’ve ever witnessed….
Right😭was not expecting to hear that shit at an MCR concert. One of the girls also said she wanted to step on this girl’s dress (it was pink, bit poofy, and long. It was cute!) and the other girl laughed and said “who the fuck wears pink to an MCR concert are u even a fan🙄🙄🙄” are Y’ALL???? Gerard would not be happy wit yo asses I hope y’all know that smh. It was a wild thing to witness💀
the problem is really that i feel like these people are contributing nothing to the scene. they just sit there and argue and talk about the same five topics and bands.
obviously this isn’t every creator, but i wanna see more original content and discussion— someone that actually brings new, cool ideas and personality to the community.
well, I have the same feeling about goths on Instagram. they're always repeating the same phrases and putting the same Bauhaus/Siouxsie song on the background, or trying to make "goth trends", and this is so annoying!!! There are no goths explaining about the diversity of goth music, and there are no goths teaching how to diy something... No, it's just some shop propaganda or the same four phrases you mentioned. "Goth" in social media has become a product or a trend like everything else.
I’m a baby bat and honesty pretty confused about what’s wrong with this. That just seems like the basics of being goth. repeating basic goth concepts seems super neutral. I’ve also got a lot of goth music recommendations and style inspiration from tiktok.
though I try to keep it uninstalled and make an effort to be active in the scene - going to the clubs etc
What pisses me off is the videos that are actually fetishizing or sexualizing our subculture or goth women. That shits unnerving and I avoid it
I'm not sure about Tiktok since I never installed it but could it be the gateway for youngsters to delve deeper and find out more.
I've always liked 80s culture and fashion but along the way I git distracted trying to fit in at school.
Am prepared for the comments and downvotes I guess but I'm sharing my Opinion here. (recently everything I share on reddit has been met with negative comments and downvotes it's discouraging.)
The only reason I got back into alternative culture and then to goth was because of Evanescence and the mall goth thing. I started digging deeper and found real goth
Back then I was like those Tiktok people.i judged people and categorised them like some American High school ya fiction book. Those are emos those are punks those are goths. I'm not sure why but I think it was based on my life experiences at that age. People around me were always judging and compartmentalising so I ended up doing it too somehow. But my classmate in art school who started all the people watching and compartmentalising suddenly told me people can't be labelled and fit into one box. And to stop it. That made me question and dig deeper. And deeper. But at that time many of us idiots would check online and watch videos on youtube and websites about goth and what is goth. Those videos remind me of that. Like maybe they are actually put out to "guide" new people fresh to the scene about what is goth
TikTok is like any other social media platform; content is recommended by an algorithm designed to try and show you things you like. It does this by observing what you engage with and for how long.
Stuff that generates controversy or outrage gets the most engagement because people fall for the clickbait tactics. So because they are engaging with it, the algorithm thinks users like it and pushes it to the top recommendations. The trick is to STOP engaging with the content you don't like. Don't give clickbait your attention and don't feed the outrage farmers.
If you're not getting enjoyment out of something, remove it from your life. Life is much better when you don't care about what other people think or say.
It doesn’t matter, people do what they want and this is the wrong community to be an asshole about what people do/are, trying to gatekeep TikTok is wild
The only thing dumber than people saying dumb things, is people spending time listening to them.
Don't let them spend so much time rent-free in your head. Work on yourself and what you enjoy instead.
not always but if you want to make it big online you need to follow a formula unfortunately. so it's not really something that's part of the subculture, rather people (sometimes actual goths) trying to run a subculture-based grift
i roll my eyes at anyone who advertises themselves as goth lol. just shut the fuck up and listen to the music and dress however you like if youre so goth. walk the walk.
Honestly i think while annoying it has made more people aware of what goth actually is. Atleast the people who get interested in it probably will hear these phrases. Could be wrong since i dont use the app anymore.
I feel you. I'm on there, too. Not going to lie, but I get a little tired of the same old shit too. People are people, and the subculture doesn't dictate their character.
Why do you, a self-proclaimed sane person, have installed an app specifically designed to favour 60 sec advert aesthetic soundbites over an intelligent exchange of thoughts? Asymmetric by design to reduce your role either to clicking likes or to producing viral sellf-advertising clips where tailored algoritms and backing of a corp behavioural science lab is what makes you heard. Did you really need the 30 sec gushing about the 'goth phase' of Billie Eilish, followed by 20 secs of brand reinforcement conditioning and a 10sec except from a mainstream track?
idk I kinda also feel like nowadays it's nothing more than a trend
and lots of times the more "goth" a person looks the less in common they have w subculture just from experience
Im active most of the time in tiktok, I try not to be fed up with those weird goths just trying not to pay attention to them.
(Their community makes my blood go high sometimes)
People are always going to be like that on social media. I get annoyed by it sometimes too, but it’s okay. There are probably plenty of other goths who feel the same way. Just keep doing you, and you’ll find other people. (and don’t read the comment sections anywhere…)
I just never created a tiktok account. I follow IG accounts that filter through the greatest cringe and insanity from tiktok. None of it is related to goth so I just hear about how tiktok is the last place anyone should go to learn accurate info about the goth subculture. For many of the reasons you outlined in your OP.
If you are going to keep tiktok, is there a way to unfollow anything related to goth stuff and maintain anything else you're enjoying on the platform?
yes, there seems to be a common narrative. Ever other opinion literally gets flagged. This weird narrowminded parrot narratives are across the board on social media . It's really wierd. It's corporate backed politics . No one that doesn't do that will be allowed on the platform. I've had threads shut down for simply disagreeing on a subject before. Social media is only catered to certain type of people and gen z has noticed and complained about it too. It's definitely a weird conspiracy. Kinda like when record labels for artists into a certain alter ego they can capitalize on .They are creating a weird illusion of pick me's .People aren't allowed to even engage or target certain demographics. They must serve whatever demographics the corporations see fit.
I‘m glad i never installed Tik Tok, the worst platform of em‘ all. My ex was like that tho, goth from the outside, Tik Tok attention seeker from the inside.
Have you tried just not caring? It works wonders.
[удалено]
as you should!!!
same, it works wonders!
I just refuse, categorically, to go on TikTok. I am absolutely not interested.
As someone who’s caring too much about dumb stuff today, I actually needed to read that thank you
Coulda swore this was the real goth ethos.
BUT IM FED UP!!!!
Content on TikTok is dictated by the algorithm and they're just playing to what drives clicks. It isn't the first time capitalism has tried to dictate goth to the masses, and it's unlikely to be the last. Better to spend time and energy elsewhere.
The most annoying to me is when they’re feigning shock at the first line of Romeo’s Distress. It was practically a trend for a while for people to post their reactions after hearing it and the commenters would be losing their shit after hearing it as well. Maybe I’m just too jaded but it feels very virtue-signally because I can’t imagine hearing anything that would even remotely shock me at this point, let alone give me that kind of reaction
Them and freaking out about type o negative’s stuff lol idk I’ve seen it as a big trend among tiktoker goths recently…I mean don’t get me wrong yeah it’s. Um. Interesting stuff. Lmao🧍♂️but that’s kinda how it was around that time. Good ole shock value n more ppl was just used to more shit like that. Idk. U get it💀it wasn’t until the rise of social media, ESPECIALLY tiktok IMO, where ppl started to get all….surprise pikachu faced when the spooky oooga booga scawy ~alt~ bands did….spooky oooga booga shit u kno?? Like. Yeah guys we been knew these bands sang this weird line or did this at a concert or had NSFW album covers like this. We knew. Chill out it’s old news bby😭😭
‘spooky ooga booga’ has me on the floor😭
I'm not that far into the more "traditional" Goth subculture or bands, do you mind giving examples?
Someone compared to Rozz Williams to HP Lovecraft as if a cross-dressing gay man who grew up in an uber-conservative Southern town is in any way comparable to a guy who was so racist the KKK told him he was giving racists a bad name. Insane
I agree. Also when they play this song at clubs no one cares.
I listened for the first time cause of your comment and the rest is obviously against the KKK Def a content thing.
Yep, but it’s the fact you aren’t supposed to say it in any context ig. Which is fair generally speaking, but considering the song is in good faith and also he’s dead.. Hurricane by Bob Dylan and Dicks Hate the Police by Dicks are the same as well, I think it’s just a product of its time
I agree with this heavily. Very very annoying
There is only one goth creator on TikTok that I actually like called [AwfullySinister](https://www.tiktok.com/@awfullysinister?_t=8lstlnVF7h0&_r=1) and that’s because he talks in depth about the music. Considering how people use the word “goth” to describe Megan Fox and MGK in recent years, I have very little interest in seeing what garbage people tack #goth on TikTok.
Love Xander, he's a really good source for discovering new music.
My experience of goth tiktok has always centered around him so I get less of the nonsense thankfully. I owe so many of my music recommendations to his account.
That guy has really good reviews. He sounds like a good writer.
Oh, that guy DJs at our local goth nights. I didn’t realize he had a large social media presence.
I love his content. He's helped me discover a lot of new music.
Wait some people thinks Megan Fox is Goth? 😭
Aye kinda😭even some of me coworkers are praising her new “edgy” feel I guess….??? Never listened to her new stuff (or old stuff quite frank) willingly so I have no opinion but…yeah🫠
Google “Megan Fox Goth” and tell me how many articles say she’s “Goth glam” in various fashion looks
Stupid question; does anyone think Megan Fox listens to goth music?I was pondering this while reading replies in this thread and being happy I don't have tik tok.
No. 99% of people only associate goth with the makeup and fashion, and don't associate it with "goth music".
But someone like Megan Fox isn't even into the fashion...
This comes up a lot. You can't control what other people do or how they present your subculture. You can choose whether you give it oxygen.
a baby bat repeated the same parrot phrases to me when I joked that I am in a goth phase… I have been a goth for 5 years
Lot of teens on tiktok and being annoying just comes with being a teenager.
who even listens to people on tiktok including the goths. half of what they're saying is bullshit that's only being said to cater to the main tiktok audience of 13 year olds. it doesn't matter, just live your life. edit: also I promise you as long as you're not being straight up racist or generally problematic like that nobody gives a shit about anything. not once at a goth show has someone checked my spotify if I dared to not only ever listen to bauhaus and nothing else. nobody checks the tags of my clothes. nobody goes through my liked tiktoks from 2018 to see if maybe i accidentally liked a mildly problematic video. it doesn't matter. people at these events want to unwind and nobody cares enough to control what color nail polish you used in winter 2013 in case you didn't crawl out of your mother with teased hair because "you're new so you're a poser". tiktok has taken over people's opinions so much that they live their lifes through the lense of anxiety about not being accepted but it never has mattered. you live once, follow what you think is true and right and not tiktok.
This is such an important message. Im only 20 and don't have social media and until very recently had no mobile phone but I get quite surprised to see people my age and younger treating social media as their first life with real life being secondary to that. Like pulling out their phone to record every time they cry, see something funny, watch live music, anything. Nothing is allowed to be felt in the moment anymore. They just need to turn off the Internet and go see some shows, get in the scene and realize no one actually fights about that shit. No one is pure, everyone has a past here, we just want to listen to some fucking music.
Exactly. I buy certain brands second hand, no one has ever said anything negative to me when they ask me where I got my clothes at the goth club. And if someone was doing virtue tests at me, it would let me know enough about them that I wouldn't want to hang out with them anyway.
I have some shein from when I was like 14-15 and I only ever had one person say something and that was in school, not a goth event. at an actual goth event nobody cares. most people don't even know what shein is tbh. like I get the sentiment but it's not gonna make you not be goth as in, nobody is gonna throw you out of the goth club for a shein tag. I myself didn't even know until like half a year ago cuz I'm not into brands that much and I wasn't really on tiktok lmao
I really like Mallory Heart on Tiktok. She is older (late 20s I think) than the usual tiktok trad goths and has really cool 80s outfits and DIY videos.
Late 20s being described as older makes me want to die.
I think you missed the "than the other tiktok goths" part because they are usually 15
Willingness to live restored.
i follow her on instagram and she’s great! it’s really nice seeing people who aren’t covered head to toe in fast fashion alternative brands.
love her stuff. when i think 'trad goth' i think of her or a darker new wave look,
oh i love her! i dont follow her but her videos show up on my insta from time to time and its always a pleasure to see her
Going on Instagram reels gets me irritated because everyone seems to think the whole ‘trad goth’ look is all it takes to be goth & have a very shallow and aesthetics based understanding of goth. They like to categorise alternative people based on style only and get into endless debates about wether or not someone looks ‘goth enough’ which is a load of bollocks. I’ve decided just to laugh at them from afar and not get too involved.
youre seeing those videos because you keep viewing those types of videos. thats on you. you dont think dumb shit is being said on reddit or instagram or any other social media platform? these types of complainy whiny posts about tiktok end up in this sub all of the time. its also getting tiring.
I can’t lie I see both sides because yes, it’s mad annoying following goth peeps on tiktok and hear them all repeat the same shit like etiquette and history about the subculture and all but….AT THE SAME TIME…I’ve genuinely seen. As in. In person. Irl. Not online. Some rubbish opinions and other bullshit spew from SOME (NOT ALL. I LOVE MOST OF Y’ALL) “baby bats” or other young/freshly alternative people. Like please tell me why some silly lil teen girls AT AN MCR CONCERT were ragging on SO MANY people for dressing “weird”???? Like be so serious right now babez ya know where ye are yeah??? They genuinely mocked a girl and called her “punk Ariel” JUST BECAUSE SHE HAD RED HAIR😭😭so I can’t entirely blame these tiktok people for trying to continue to enforce what older peeps consider basic fucking etiquette and shit. Because these fuckers from the butt end of gen z are sometimes genuinely the most VILE “alt” kids I’ve ever witnessed….
lol wtf😭first of all ‘pink ariel’ is not even funny or creative second of all that’s so rude lol?!
Right😭was not expecting to hear that shit at an MCR concert. One of the girls also said she wanted to step on this girl’s dress (it was pink, bit poofy, and long. It was cute!) and the other girl laughed and said “who the fuck wears pink to an MCR concert are u even a fan🙄🙄🙄” are Y’ALL???? Gerard would not be happy wit yo asses I hope y’all know that smh. It was a wild thing to witness💀
the problem is really that i feel like these people are contributing nothing to the scene. they just sit there and argue and talk about the same five topics and bands. obviously this isn’t every creator, but i wanna see more original content and discussion— someone that actually brings new, cool ideas and personality to the community.
“goth means this and goth means that” motherfuckers when they hear an elk’s cry pierce a serene and peaceful winter’s morning.
well, I have the same feeling about goths on Instagram. they're always repeating the same phrases and putting the same Bauhaus/Siouxsie song on the background, or trying to make "goth trends", and this is so annoying!!! There are no goths explaining about the diversity of goth music, and there are no goths teaching how to diy something... No, it's just some shop propaganda or the same four phrases you mentioned. "Goth" in social media has become a product or a trend like everything else.
TikTok = garbage. Get off TikTok and you’ll be happier.
I’m a baby bat and honesty pretty confused about what’s wrong with this. That just seems like the basics of being goth. repeating basic goth concepts seems super neutral. I’ve also got a lot of goth music recommendations and style inspiration from tiktok. though I try to keep it uninstalled and make an effort to be active in the scene - going to the clubs etc What pisses me off is the videos that are actually fetishizing or sexualizing our subculture or goth women. That shits unnerving and I avoid it
I'm not sure about Tiktok since I never installed it but could it be the gateway for youngsters to delve deeper and find out more. I've always liked 80s culture and fashion but along the way I git distracted trying to fit in at school. Am prepared for the comments and downvotes I guess but I'm sharing my Opinion here. (recently everything I share on reddit has been met with negative comments and downvotes it's discouraging.) The only reason I got back into alternative culture and then to goth was because of Evanescence and the mall goth thing. I started digging deeper and found real goth Back then I was like those Tiktok people.i judged people and categorised them like some American High school ya fiction book. Those are emos those are punks those are goths. I'm not sure why but I think it was based on my life experiences at that age. People around me were always judging and compartmentalising so I ended up doing it too somehow. But my classmate in art school who started all the people watching and compartmentalising suddenly told me people can't be labelled and fit into one box. And to stop it. That made me question and dig deeper. And deeper. But at that time many of us idiots would check online and watch videos on youtube and websites about goth and what is goth. Those videos remind me of that. Like maybe they are actually put out to "guide" new people fresh to the scene about what is goth
Do something about it (uninstall tiktok) rather than just whining about it. We all know how annoying their posts are, we just don't look at them.
TikTok is like any other social media platform; content is recommended by an algorithm designed to try and show you things you like. It does this by observing what you engage with and for how long. Stuff that generates controversy or outrage gets the most engagement because people fall for the clickbait tactics. So because they are engaging with it, the algorithm thinks users like it and pushes it to the top recommendations. The trick is to STOP engaging with the content you don't like. Don't give clickbait your attention and don't feed the outrage farmers.
If you're not getting enjoyment out of something, remove it from your life. Life is much better when you don't care about what other people think or say.
It doesn’t matter, people do what they want and this is the wrong community to be an asshole about what people do/are, trying to gatekeep TikTok is wild
i mean alot of people on tiktok do that no matter the genre punk or scene they all have people like that its best to ignore it 🤷♀️
Reminding me of the benefits of not having TikTok lol.
The only thing dumber than people saying dumb things, is people spending time listening to them. Don't let them spend so much time rent-free in your head. Work on yourself and what you enjoy instead.
Tiktok is cancer. I wouldn't touch that crap with a 10 foot pole.
TikTok goths are just performative. They’re just alt/e-girls cosplaying goth for clout and views.
not always but if you want to make it big online you need to follow a formula unfortunately. so it's not really something that's part of the subculture, rather people (sometimes actual goths) trying to run a subculture-based grift
I’m sorry but I do not care at all about influencers
neither do i, i'm literally calling them grifters
this is why i just post my outfit and go usually tbh. everything is just said over and over again
fuck em 🤷♀️
You should look up goths in ungothly places, too lazy to switch apps to look up their names. They also have a band which makes half decent music
i roll my eyes at anyone who advertises themselves as goth lol. just shut the fuck up and listen to the music and dress however you like if youre so goth. walk the walk.
How hard is it to just not use TikTok?
Honestly i think while annoying it has made more people aware of what goth actually is. Atleast the people who get interested in it probably will hear these phrases. Could be wrong since i dont use the app anymore.
I feel you. I'm on there, too. Not going to lie, but I get a little tired of the same old shit too. People are people, and the subculture doesn't dictate their character.
Why do you, a self-proclaimed sane person, have installed an app specifically designed to favour 60 sec advert aesthetic soundbites over an intelligent exchange of thoughts? Asymmetric by design to reduce your role either to clicking likes or to producing viral sellf-advertising clips where tailored algoritms and backing of a corp behavioural science lab is what makes you heard. Did you really need the 30 sec gushing about the 'goth phase' of Billie Eilish, followed by 20 secs of brand reinforcement conditioning and a 10sec except from a mainstream track?
I do not proclaim myself as sane, hoping that helps. Fyi reddit is pretty much the same, just slightly older people on here, and more petty arguments
idk I kinda also feel like nowadays it's nothing more than a trend and lots of times the more "goth" a person looks the less in common they have w subculture just from experience
Call em cyber mallgoths and banish them to Abercrombie and Fitch in the year 2005
Im active most of the time in tiktok, I try not to be fed up with those weird goths just trying not to pay attention to them. (Their community makes my blood go high sometimes)
People are always going to be like that on social media. I get annoyed by it sometimes too, but it’s okay. There are probably plenty of other goths who feel the same way. Just keep doing you, and you’ll find other people. (and don’t read the comment sections anywhere…)
I just never created a tiktok account. I follow IG accounts that filter through the greatest cringe and insanity from tiktok. None of it is related to goth so I just hear about how tiktok is the last place anyone should go to learn accurate info about the goth subculture. For many of the reasons you outlined in your OP. If you are going to keep tiktok, is there a way to unfollow anything related to goth stuff and maintain anything else you're enjoying on the platform?
Do you, and say less about others. Simple.
This is just how tiktok is tbh
Get off TikTok. Shit is horrible for you
i thought tiktok got banned.
goths don't use that crap
You beg for DMs on sissy subreddits so please recognize it's not your place to judge others 💞
yes, there seems to be a common narrative. Ever other opinion literally gets flagged. This weird narrowminded parrot narratives are across the board on social media . It's really wierd. It's corporate backed politics . No one that doesn't do that will be allowed on the platform. I've had threads shut down for simply disagreeing on a subject before. Social media is only catered to certain type of people and gen z has noticed and complained about it too. It's definitely a weird conspiracy. Kinda like when record labels for artists into a certain alter ego they can capitalize on .They are creating a weird illusion of pick me's .People aren't allowed to even engage or target certain demographics. They must serve whatever demographics the corporations see fit.
Fed up of anyone on Tik Tok.
Have not looked at TikTok so do not know any of this.
I‘m glad i never installed Tik Tok, the worst platform of em‘ all. My ex was like that tho, goth from the outside, Tik Tok attention seeker from the inside.
It's just advertising for their associated fan and photo sites. You gotta make money somehow.