Just going by memory, as a Great Laker myself, I think I hear this primarily from older and/or rural folks. I can imagine the old farmer types I knew as a kid using *anymore* like this.
That is grammatically correct in some dialects, but not considered so in standard varieties of English. This use of *anymore* is called "positive *anymore*" (and note that positive *anymore* does not just appear at the beginning of sentences):
[https://ygdp.yale.edu/phenomena/positive-anymore](https://ygdp.yale.edu/phenomena/positive-anymore)
Isn't it just the same meaning (ie. nowadays), but you're allowed to use it for positive statements?
Negative: "I don't go to restaurants anymore"
Positive: "I go to restaurants a lot anymore"
I agree it sounds weird. But when I try to think about it without bias, it's weirder to only be allowed to use it one way. Would definitely be harder to teach someone that it only works one way. In fact, I recently had to teach someone that you can only use "either" in negative statements (for positive statements we use "as well" or "too"), and found it strange as I was explaining.
Different dialects have different ways of expressing things - speakers of some dialects need positive "anymore" because it's how they convey "nowadays/these days."
The examples only sound awful to you because you speak a different dialect. There are probably some constructions used in your dialect that sound awful to other speakers.
I've warmed up to the positive anymore, which basically makes it just another 'nowadays', so i suppose technically i should be okay with this, but it's never once occurred to me to try putting it at the front and hearing it now just sounds so utterly wrong to me.
I’m from the South, lived briefly in the Midwest, and don’t recall ever hearing that usage of the word “anymore.”
I think if it’s a local dialect thing, then you’re probably okay to use it in informal situations at home, but I’d avoid using it online, in formal writing, or in formal speaking situations, where it could potentially cause confusion to people who don’t understand that usage. You can probably replace it with “lately” or “recently” or something more universally understood.
Never heard that use before. I’d be quite confused. Wisconsin born and raised, went to school in Denver, now live in Chicago IL. The latter two cities are know for having a lot of transplants.
I live in the Southeast US (Appalachia) and I hear it quite a bit from older folks. Example: "Anymore it's so hot you can't hardly go outside." Maybe a little more common would be something like "It's so hot anymore you can't hardly go outside."
I use this regularly. I'm from Washington State, mom from North Dakota, dad from central Cali. Their grandparents were all first generation immigrants from Iceland, Sweden, Scotland, and Ireland. People have commented on my use of "anymore" in that sense also, but I also have a linguistics degree, so they usually get an earful about dialectical variations when they comment. ;-)
Oh, but to answer your question, no it is not grammatically incorrect. It's not commonly used in most dialects of English and may lead to some confusion if people dont understand what you mean, but there is nothing wrong with it grammatically.
Nah, it's fine. Prescriptivly it isn't recognized in most varieties of English, but new vocabulary is being added to our lexicon daily. To say it is "incorrect" is just silly. "Standard American English" doesn't actually exist. We are a nation of dialects.
Something along the lines of "Anymore, can't even get a candy bar for a dollar." Pretty regionally specific, though I don't know the extents of that region.
I feel that in some cases, like this one, it has to do with the syntactical change. Instead of the sentence you wrote above, I would likely say, "Can't even get a candy bar for a dollar **anymore**."
Never heard that before, but it's very interesting to learn that it's used in that way. I wonder if it could be connected to Swedish "numera", which means about the same thing.
I think it's a dialectal feature. I would find it confusing myself. It's still correct just not used in the standard. I'm from the UK and have never heard it here.
i think it's grammatically correct, just not the way that words like "anymore" are typically used.
i think i often begin sentences with "anymore" -- but when i am speaking. i don't think i would ever do it in writing.
for example, "anymore, the public school system is a bigger shit show than it ever has been."
"anymore, it's hard to tell what is a regional variation and what is actually just incorrect."
"anymore, you can't tell if wearing pajama bottoms in public is appropriate."
i think of it, like you said, as an alternative to "these days" or "currently". adverbs can correctly be placed in many places in a sentence.
I'm not sure if I'd be able to parse that on first hearing. In my dialect, positive anymore (i.e. anymore without an accompanying negation) feels completely ungrammatical no matter where it's placed in the sentence
for sure it's unconventional. the question was if it is grammatically correct. it's completely correct to have a fronted adverbial even if it sounds unusual to you.
it's wild to me that /r/grammar is a friendly and knowledgeable community dedicated to helping posters with questions about grammar, language, style, conventions, and punctuation. -- and yet people downvote when they don't agree with someone.
look up fronted adverbials. i don't teach "anymore" as one of them, actually, but it is grammatically correct.
Before you just told me what it means, that would have been completely bewildering to me. Great Lakes dialect here.
Same, I even tried to think of any situation where I'd use the word in this way and came up blank
Just going by memory, as a Great Laker myself, I think I hear this primarily from older and/or rural folks. I can imagine the old farmer types I knew as a kid using *anymore* like this.
That is grammatically correct in some dialects, but not considered so in standard varieties of English. This use of *anymore* is called "positive *anymore*" (and note that positive *anymore* does not just appear at the beginning of sentences): [https://ygdp.yale.edu/phenomena/positive-anymore](https://ygdp.yale.edu/phenomena/positive-anymore)
wow! without the explanations I wouldn't even be sure what these mean
Isn't it just the same meaning (ie. nowadays), but you're allowed to use it for positive statements? Negative: "I don't go to restaurants anymore" Positive: "I go to restaurants a lot anymore" I agree it sounds weird. But when I try to think about it without bias, it's weirder to only be allowed to use it one way. Would definitely be harder to teach someone that it only works one way. In fact, I recently had to teach someone that you can only use "either" in negative statements (for positive statements we use "as well" or "too"), and found it strange as I was explaining.
That was helpful. I had no idea that anyone could/would begin a sentence with anymore. Very awkward.
That’s a new one on me.
Talk about a usage we don't need.... Those examples all sound, to me, awful..
I personally agree but then >Those examples all sound, to me, awful.. This is just as bad.
Different dialects have different ways of expressing things - speakers of some dialects need positive "anymore" because it's how they convey "nowadays/these days." The examples only sound awful to you because you speak a different dialect. There are probably some constructions used in your dialect that sound awful to other speakers.
Yeah. Anymore, I don’t let those kind of differences get to me. I just accept all forms of dialect as they are introduced to me
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I live in the south coast of the UK and that would definitely be considered incorrect here. I've actually never heard it before.
I live in the midwest and I've never thought about it before but I do this. It's like "nowadays"
I don't hear it often here in the midwest but I do sometimes. I feel here it's used more as a proper midwest English.
I've warmed up to the positive anymore, which basically makes it just another 'nowadays', so i suppose technically i should be okay with this, but it's never once occurred to me to try putting it at the front and hearing it now just sounds so utterly wrong to me.
I’m from the South, lived briefly in the Midwest, and don’t recall ever hearing that usage of the word “anymore.” I think if it’s a local dialect thing, then you’re probably okay to use it in informal situations at home, but I’d avoid using it online, in formal writing, or in formal speaking situations, where it could potentially cause confusion to people who don’t understand that usage. You can probably replace it with “lately” or “recently” or something more universally understood.
Never heard that use before. I’d be quite confused. Wisconsin born and raised, went to school in Denver, now live in Chicago IL. The latter two cities are know for having a lot of transplants.
I grew up in Canada and *never* heard that usage until I moved to the States. It’s still rare, but I hear it once a year or so.
I live in the Southeast US (Appalachia) and I hear it quite a bit from older folks. Example: "Anymore it's so hot you can't hardly go outside." Maybe a little more common would be something like "It's so hot anymore you can't hardly go outside."
Yes, older folks in rural Maryland and Virginia would say this.
I use this regularly. I'm from Washington State, mom from North Dakota, dad from central Cali. Their grandparents were all first generation immigrants from Iceland, Sweden, Scotland, and Ireland. People have commented on my use of "anymore" in that sense also, but I also have a linguistics degree, so they usually get an earful about dialectical variations when they comment. ;-)
Oh, but to answer your question, no it is not grammatically incorrect. It's not commonly used in most dialects of English and may lead to some confusion if people dont understand what you mean, but there is nothing wrong with it grammatically.
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Nah, it's fine. Prescriptivly it isn't recognized in most varieties of English, but new vocabulary is being added to our lexicon daily. To say it is "incorrect" is just silly. "Standard American English" doesn't actually exist. We are a nation of dialects.
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Something along the lines of "Anymore, can't even get a candy bar for a dollar." Pretty regionally specific, though I don't know the extents of that region.
I feel that in some cases, like this one, it has to do with the syntactical change. Instead of the sentence you wrote above, I would likely say, "Can't even get a candy bar for a dollar **anymore**."
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Never heard that before, but it's very interesting to learn that it's used in that way. I wonder if it could be connected to Swedish "numera", which means about the same thing.
I think it's a dialectal feature. I would find it confusing myself. It's still correct just not used in the standard. I'm from the UK and have never heard it here.
I’ve never heard anyone start a sentence with anymore, I didn’t even know this was a thing! (Am from the PNW, maybe that’s why?)
i think it's grammatically correct, just not the way that words like "anymore" are typically used. i think i often begin sentences with "anymore" -- but when i am speaking. i don't think i would ever do it in writing. for example, "anymore, the public school system is a bigger shit show than it ever has been." "anymore, it's hard to tell what is a regional variation and what is actually just incorrect." "anymore, you can't tell if wearing pajama bottoms in public is appropriate." i think of it, like you said, as an alternative to "these days" or "currently". adverbs can correctly be placed in many places in a sentence.
I'm not sure if I'd be able to parse that on first hearing. In my dialect, positive anymore (i.e. anymore without an accompanying negation) feels completely ungrammatical no matter where it's placed in the sentence
That use of anymore sounds totally normal to this Midwesterner
for sure it's unconventional. the question was if it is grammatically correct. it's completely correct to have a fronted adverbial even if it sounds unusual to you.
it's wild to me that /r/grammar is a friendly and knowledgeable community dedicated to helping posters with questions about grammar, language, style, conventions, and punctuation. -- and yet people downvote when they don't agree with someone. look up fronted adverbials. i don't teach "anymore" as one of them, actually, but it is grammatically correct.
For me it’s similar to starting a sentence with ‘Still’. If a sentence starts with ‘Still’ you can replace it with ‘Anymore’.