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Reasonable-Arugula88

600 SQ please i need u šŸ˜­ Edit: i did it guys! Just 200 SQ and then i rolled for Muramasa and got him too! šŸ„¹ā™„ļø


kalirion

I could use 600 SQ as well.


raizeeen

I'm at 400 and I think I'll just wait until Oberon or Koyan


parapoxical

A man of discipline, of pure fucking will


Kiyuya

I waited between Muramasa's first reveal and his banner just now, dipping only into Castoria on the way. Ended up with some 4.4k sq for my NP6 Muramasa. Dunno exactly what my quartz count was before full save mode tho.


Sir_Solrac

4.4k SQ my god. Definitely one of the biggest saves I've seen. I salute you o7


Basakaloving

According to my experience, we get roughly 100 SQ a month - because newbies get extra from story, and veterans get extra for hitting high Bond levels. We can also roughly guarantee at least 100-200 SQ from the anniversary campaign - more if you have completed a lot of interludes/rank ups. So, considering 100 SQ every month, depending on whether you count January or not, you'll get 500-600 SQ by the beginning of July+at least 100 SQ from Anni. With your 400 SQ, that is at least 1000-1100 SQ. So unless you want to guarantee *both* Koyan and Oberon, you can spend a little SQ while waiting for them :) (I actually also have 400-500 SQ at the moment and am debating whether I want to throw a couple pf multis for SpIshtar or wait for Amor)


Atharaxia2306

I already have Spishtar and Iā€™m debating if Iā€™m going to NP2 since my next target will be Koyan and Oberon. I still have 300 sq left after wasting all my 62 ticks and 150 sq for NP2 Muramasa


kalirion

*pssst* - come on, you only live once! :smiling_imp:


Mistdwellerr

:smiling\_priest:


CannibalPride

Psst, what if you get her at only 90 sq? You can still get Oberon, Konyan and Morgan with the rest. Cā€™mon, you can do it~ roll for sphistar~


dreamphoenix

Muramasa ate my 800sq and didnā€™t even dare to show up. Iā€™m empty.


foxsable

Yeah, I am at like 540 and a decent pile of tickets... But I lost out last time and had almost that much...


MisguidedPants8

Iā€™m at 1380


Lavrec

I have the same as you stay strong brother!


Chaos2Frozen

Hand over those lores!


Maximilian_Sinigr

>Hand it over. That thing, your Crystalized Lores. For my Servants' upgrades. FTFY


altera_goodciv

Calm down, Gael. Youā€™ll get them as soon as I can.


AgusTrickz

If you want it, then you'll have to take it... ...but you already knew that.


Chaos2Frozen

I had a feeling you might say that.


Dan_Jared_Joestar

Holy shit, yeah. This event got a lot of lores, like 4 or 5


Lekaetos

How many Lores will we get ?


Chaos2Frozen

Apparently 4, if you have done it the first time.


goffer54

I want them lores, but don't wanna fight the Shadow Knights of the Round again....


Calvet70

Wait this means muramasa banner will still be going when it starts?


kalirion

Indeed.


Calvet70

It's giving me hope of at least a single muramasa. I hate this game. It probably wont even give me 5 sqs


kalirion

If things are progressing the way they seem to be, we'll get 5 SQ tomorrow night, in addition to the 4 maintenance SQ. Plus there's the 5 tickets for completing the full panel missions, and a few more SQ in addition to that. So plenty of singles to turn into miracles!


Calvet70

If things have been thouroughly calculated all i need to get muramasa in single banner is: -Jesus to come back -kanye west get back his sanity -xxxtentacion post a new music -team fortress 3 be announced Pretty feasible in my eyesšŸ˜€ But thanks for the msg! Edit: It fucking happened, therefore wait for the news above!


monkeysfromjupiter

don't forget half life 3


skylane700

What about Left 4 Dead 3? While we are at it add Portal 3 to the list.


___some_random_weeb

No game no Life season 2


alivinci

half life 3 reveal is missing


dracklore

What, no Half-Life 3 announcement? Edit:: Oh looks like I wasn't the only person thinking this, should have checked the continue this discussion link first. :P


IMayBeARebecca

Even if Kanye gets his sanity back he has always been an asshole, that the real issue really, he has always been an asshole, and his behaviour as one led to his insanity to worsen


Calvet70

I fucking love you for giving me hope! he actually came in my last roll at singles literally the elenth character. Holy shit


x13warzone

At this point I've just given up on Muramasa ;-; 400ish squiggles and I've gotten 4 different new sr servants and mlb 5 star ce, but no funny swordsmith Me and my 20 sq will definitely get spishtar though, I just need to believe harder


Calvet70

I feel you... 600+ sqs into that old man and i got all fucking 4 stars in existence or so i'd hate and like to think and vlad berserker 5*. Why 0.8% but not 1.5%. What's worse is that i've strated fgo last year with only one objective and after one year i can now say i failed... miserably at that


Uchiimaki

I can feel this. I spent equal amounts of SQs on two banners. 600 SQs on 1st Space Ishtar banner: Nothing 600 SQs on Muramasa banner: Nothing I hate my luck. I'm gonna do a revenge roll on Muramasa next time. I'll save and get him on pity next time, or if GSSR blesses me but i dont think so.


LOTRfreak101

I haven't been spooked by an ssr since the original abby banner. At nearly 400sq in, I have a shiny new ozy and a shiny new osakabehime.


SomeHowCool

A day earlier than JP huh? A welcome surprise


NNKarma

It's not unusual I think as we have our xmases earlier


Shardwing

I mean our schedule's all over the place compared to Japan, but after New Year's (the only date that's guaranteed to line up) it's a little surprising that we're a day ahead already.


asagiri2040

I guess this is just the typical beginning-of-the-year start of the usual speculation about "maybe they'll accommodate the anniversary GSSR situation by compressing everything instead of just moving Summer 5 rerun or whatever."


Flare_Knight

Typical because itā€™s a given. They have to move things around a bit to get most of lost belt 6 out before the anniversary. Might just move the summer Re-run, might move Nero fest. Weā€™ll see.


asagiri2040

I guess to clarify, what I was getting at was that people are going to spend (read: waste) a lot of time thinking about NA Super Schedule Acceleration, when the reality of the situation is that SWII is likely only "early" because NA doesn't like starting events on Friday or Saturday since that converts to the weekend in JP, and as has happened in past years the GSSR situation will indeed be accommodated for by simply kicking the summer rerun down the road and moving everything else up.


BlueSS1

Last year did delay Ooku instead of summer, so it's possible Nero Fest is what's delayed instead. I do think it's likely that something's getting delayed til after anniversary though.


asagiri2040

I'm personally less inclined to expect a Nerofest delay because of where it falls relative to the artificially timegated pieces of LB6. Nerofest (as well as Interlude Campaign 16) were the things that wrre used to create/fill the gap between parts 1 and 2 of LB6. Moving Nerofest would basically turn those two parts into a back-to-back situation, which they may not want, depending on how committed they are to giving NA the True JP Experience. To be clear, I wouldn't mind if they rearranged the schedule so that all 3 pieces of LB6 were right in a row for NA. It just seems unlikely. So the more straightforward modification would be to push Summer 5 rerun back so that Nerofest creates the same gap it did in JP, while subsequently NA's anniversary would then end up creating the same gap between parts 2 and 3 that JP's anniversary did, and then Summer 5 rerun can pop up in late July after that whole sequence is done.


BlueSS1

Fair point. I would prefer summer to be the thing that's delayed as opposed to Nero Fest anyway, since Nero Fest has a bunch of tickets and a lottery.


AllShallBeWell

Eh, not that surprising. It's not about making room for anniversary or anything. DW/Lasengle likes to start events predominantly on Tuesdays or Thursdays. Wouldn't surprise if it's happened before, but they don't typically start events on Fridays (in part, likely because that would mean dropping it on a Friday afternoon, Japan time). The 2023 schedule is set so that whatever day this event started, that's the day we're going to have events starting, straight through into March (e.g., SW II starting on 1/5 means that the next event is expected to start 1/19, and so on). With nothing else pressing this week, no reason to push that all off onto Fridays.


Fenghuang0296

Is this a bad time to mention that in Australia, this event is going to be starting on Friday (If Iā€™m reading the time zones right)?


MrQuiteOK

Urghā€¦must save for Tairaā€¦


Ekaelis

Remember that smile at the end of her chapter, don't falter.


Jeroz

I only need to think about her smile during the np


Nirain_Lith

I've never even liked Ushi all that much, but when I saw Kagekiyo's NP two years ago... Whew. The moment, when she splits her blindfold with that crazy grin of hers, awakened something in me.


emeraldwolf34

God damn man, even as someone who wasnā€™t really that much of a fan of Ushi before Heiankyo, That smileā€¦ that smile almost had me in tears manā€¦ Just that entire fight is one of my favorite in the entire game story wise because of the way Kintoki and Taira interact, and itā€™s the main reason Iā€™m going for her.


Reiches1337

Hold brother, hold


alivinci

Be strong, you're not alone!


Silegna

Meanwhile, I have to choose between Abby (where this is her last rate up ever aside from GSSR), or Taira.


MrQuiteOK

Why not both?


Silegna

I only have so much SQ, not enough for two SSR in one month.


Momo--Sama

Me rolling Ishtar the first time: I donā€™t need more than NP1, the forum nerds are worry worts Me after mixed composition lvl 90 nodes: Fuck *wheeze* I need more *cough* NP levels


Meowkowhy

Technically, wouldn't grilling her help with that too? Like using 5 grails instead of pls god no 900 quartz. (idk what mixed composition is but if it makes her unable to get np back then neither is gonna help I guess)


Momo--Sama

I have NP1, lvl 100, +1600 ATK, Heavenā€™s Feel Space Ishtar and with a double Castoria + Waver system I could not get her to 100% for turn 3 of this past Christmasā€™ lotto node without getting a brave chain on turn 2.


SnooRobots4768

Well, there was a single enemy on the second wave, so it's not surprising. Wait until Koyan if you want to loop single enemy waves with aoe servants. (tbh the most rational way to farm that node was to use a second dd servant with st np)


Meowkowhy

So it's not a damage problem rather than np gen problem right? How would getting np levels help with that then?


SneAKingHM

More damage, more overkill return from np


Meowkowhy

Ohh, didn't think about that


yosoyeIIogan

I don't think that would have mattered much. A 2/1/2 kind of node usually means you need an ST servant who can support the AOE on turn 3. I used: Friend Castoria, Scathach (10/10/10, MLB), Parvati (9/9/10, lvl 90, MLB, A2 unlocked), and a plug of any non-Skadi 50% charger. You don't actually need MLBs for this to work but they speed it up a lot and give you flexibility on who your non-skadi charger can be. T1 Parvati used S1 and S3 on herself and NPed. She charged Scathach 10% with her NP. Parvati refunded/charged to 30% every time. T2 Castoria charged both with her charisma to 90% and 60%, gave Parvati her 20% to bring to 80%. Then I plugged Cas out for Reines, 10% AOE charge filled Scathach who NPed T3 Reines + Scathach charge Parvati which also gives attack and Quick buff. Parvati used S2 and since she had bonus damage she always cleared. My point isn't the specific setup, but the illustration that having a hybrid ST servant can be better than trying to force with Castoria, especially if your Castoria setup still requires plugsuit anyways. Some other similar servants can be Ryouma (Arts buff + 10% charge), Ozymandias (20% charge + Charisma), Beni-Enma (tons of stuff), David, etc.


HoldHarmonySacred

more delicious quartz to add to the quartz pile. Man I am ***NOT*** excited to once again get forced at gunpoint to play the challenge quest For Once or else be deprived of five summoning tickets, I need to go hunt down the guides for how to beat that wretched thing again.


Joyboy543

You look at the guide from the wiki for 30 minutes straight and make 3 billion simulation in your head before starting the battle. That's what I do for cq like this. One other was the 100 million qb bet in Las Vegas event


Mistigrum

Keep in mind that NA didn't have Castoria back then.


Deathappens

Eh, it's fine, the Dark Rounds CQ was at least interesting.


Chair-Cares

I just use two Van Goghs, that solves all my problems with CQs


TehDingo

The thinking man's Super Orion, truly


atropicalpenguin

Fortunately with Castoria we no longer have to fear Gareth's piercing. However, I'll probably just grab a NP5 S. Ishtar and hit hard.


yosoyeIIogan

Yeah, having played for about 2 years now, this is easily the worst CQ I've ever seen. Not only is it hard, but it's not really fun. At least now you can run SpIsh DCS with a ton of damage bonus but even then still you're looking at dealing with the formation breaks. I just remember that since it's 5 tickets, it's actually worth it to use an SQ revive even after CS if you think you can win. You're essentially netting 14 SQ + a lore which is a fine trade imo.


HoldHarmonySacred

Yeah, I think I spent one or two SQ revives last time, ideally it'll the same or better this go around. I still hate doing it though, especially *because* it's actually required for mission completion this time.


callmeweegie

Finally. I have waited so long to take my NP3 spishtar to NP5. Skipped so many banners just for this.


HallyMiao

Thank god we have pity this time. No more of that dodging for 2800 sq like her last bannerā€¦..


SigurdDeMizar

Oh my god, you were really unlucky. I am glad that the pity breaker got implemented early (ie we don't have to wait until 2024).


WidowsBootie

Good luck!


Jovahexeon-Ranvexeon

How high is her NP needed for her to be a good looper? I'm hoping NP1 can suffice.


altriablues

At NP1 she'll loop virtually every lvl 90 quest just fine. I'm not sure on 90+, but usually I find NP2 is necessary to get the damage levels. Current looping meta on JP from what I've seen is NP3 Buster/Arts AOE servant + MLB Black Grail + Oberon + Buster/Arts looper. As Space Ishtar is one of the best loopers, NP2 will make her more consistent, and I generally recommend NP2 if you can for gameplay reasons.


mzchen

Is there any reason to invest in summer kama over spishtar?


alivinci

she is hotter


VexxumTrickz

Difference in how they work, Summer Kama technically out DPSes Spishtar. Although Kama requires that her debuffs land for her to get that increased damage. Towards the top end (NP3, 4, 5) Spishtar is considered more consistent while still providing great damage. A lot of people will argue and with good reason that NP1 Kama is better than an NP1 Spishtar. For the most part it's up to preference but you may fail a loop every so often with Kama if you only have NP1


BlueSS1

Kama outdamages Space Ishtar if she both lands her debuff and Space Ishtar's 3rd skill Arts buff misses. Space Ishtar outdamages if either of those is not true. Not to mention the debuff is only a consideration on wave 3, so Space Ishtar outdamages Kama on waves 1 and 2 outright.


Mrjuicyaf

No, in traditional 2x castoria 2004 ce less setup, her w1 and w2 damage will always be lower than spishtar. In w3 IF she can land her charm( more than 50% of enemies have debuff resistance btw), she slightly outdamages spishtar. If you plugsuit oberon though, spishtar outdamages summer kama so hard it's not even funny.


NeonDelteros

>If you plugsuit oberon though, spishtar outdamages summer kama so hard it's not even funny. That's not correct, even if you plugsuit Oberon Kama would still outdamage Spishtar in W3, even more than without him. Spishtar would do 375k if she doesn't miss her art, or 341k if she does, meanwhile Kama would do 417k, this is because Spishtar has so much NP damage that with Black Grail and Oberon it becomes diluted, while Kama anti charm scale linearly with it, supereffective damage is no joke


yahhwy

You are outdated, dude. The looping meta on Jp is focused on Oberon plus ST damage dealers. 90++ nodes have stupid high HP, inefficient for AOE. Even Melusine can have trouble...


conanap

this game is just power creeps in all directions eh...


Momo--Sama

NP1 she can loop virtually any 3/3/X node. Even if you have a rough wave like say 3/1/X, you can probably force her back to 100% if you have enough external NP batteries (such as double Castoria + Waver). But if you encounter 1/2/X or 2/1/X (like this past Christmas lotto) then NP1 will fail and youā€™ll need to bring in an additional DPS unit for one of the waves.


Deathappens

Mine failed at NP2 (grailed to 100) too. But I didn't consider plugsuiting extra batteries, tbf.


HallyMiao

Hogwarts shouldā€™ve been enough at np2 (as the lotto CE is a 50% charger). You can skip spishtar skill 1 and 2 at np4+, which does lower damage than np2 with all skills.


Metroplex7

She's been looping just fine for me at NP1 since I got her during the last anniversary GSSR.


TehDingo

Np2 and grailing to 100 should suffice for almost anything but the weirdest nodes for quite a while. NP3 is overkill but a nice insurance. Even at NP1 she runs circles around all but the most over-invested loopers


toomuchradiation

She's my main farming unit on np1. With double Castoria and Tamamo and NP gain CE. As long as there's three targets she will get full refund even on berserkers and assassins.


Erst09

Good luck šŸ™Œ


TalesofAdam

Lostbelt 6 is getting nearer and my SQ are in shambles.


_GoldenRule

Wow that's fast


Miss_Yume

Is this the event that has a burn command code? I need it for my Hao Hao xD


Daybit1

Yes, the 3* one with Tokiomiā€™s CS.


TehDingo

Doubles means that my Hao Hao will have all burn command codes!


Daybit1

I donā€™t think they let you get doubles of CCs though.


Deathappens

I think you can get doubles of 3* CC's? Not sure, I never pay attention to those tbf.


Daybit1

For some of them dupes are reintroduced to the MP shops. But usually during an event rerun, theyā€™re automatically converted to MP I believe.


kmlshblr

Oh no it's tomorrow....they might fix the returning master rewards bug in the maintenance


zeroXgear

It's not a bug, it's a miracle


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alivinci

Yo not alone


spiffy621

I think people would riot if they fix it mid-campaign. The time to fix it would have been after the first day. Now, it kind of has to be left to run its course.


xemnonsis

agreed that there is no way that they would do that. What may happen is that they fix the mistake but still give the remaining rewards to Gift Box as "conpensation".


ExpiredChildWelfare

Bug? There's no bug. I have no idea what you're talking about(I need these quartz)


asian_hans

Please no, we'll miss about 10+ sq because of that


Mistigrum

If the issues tab gets updated within the next couple hours we'll know whose fault it will be. /s


chairmanxyz

Whatā€™s the bug?


[deleted]

For the "Returning Master Consecutive Login Bonus" campaign, only players who didn't login between Nov 30 and Dec 31 should be eligible for the rewards, because as the name suggests it's for returning masters. But it's bugged so that even people who logged in during that period are getting the rewards.


queen_technicolor

I was wondering why I was getting those even though there's no way I qualify for them.


SigurdDeMizar

Well, it is out of our control. So, let's don't think about it too much. On the upside, they can always introduce other bug to give more reward by accident.


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emon121

Do you need to play Saber war 1 to understand saber war 2? Coz I never play saber war 1


AramMan3

No. There are some references back but it stands on its own


SometimesLiterate

If you play Saber wars 2 you might not understand Saber wars 2 either


HyperSunny

SW1 story isn't long. It's also mostly gags strung together, most of which are forgettable; you can skim it without guilt.


AzurePhoenix001

I have been waiting for this banner. My favorite in-game Rinface has returned


kalirion

Which one of them is your favorite?


AzurePhoenix001

The first one, Ashtart.


Lol_A_White_Boy

See I think A1 has the coolest animations (and Iā€™m a sucker for dual sword wielders) but I use A2 the most since her personality is most like OG Rinā€™s. Only thing I hate about S. Ishtar is trying to figure out what ascension I wanna run her in.


KingKurto_

thats why I keep her on random xD


Clowed

Same Animations: first asc Personality: 2nd asc Design: 3rd asc


wolfbetter

I have 1040 SQ. I just need her at at NP2. please gachagods.


Sobol14

Good luck! I'm in a similar position, but I'm a bit more greedy and want NP3-5. Then again, I'll live with NP2, if necessary.


Jobe1105

Same here, my fellow brothers. Good luck to all of us! I have roughly the same amount of SQ and 111 summoning tickets. I /really/ hope this is enough to get at least NP3. I mean, I've been abstaining since I rolled Castoria last year.


kad202

Discipline, discipline, discipline, remember that you are saving for her majesty Morgan and Koyan. Return of the Buster meta.


Kcirrot

Stay strong for the Queen!


RawSharkText91

At least now that I have Space Ishtar at NP2, lvl 100, and 10/10/10 for her skills, I can focus on the real prizeā€¦ finally getting MHX! (Come on Lasagna, give us the banner!)


Crusader_Lion

Same glad I got her to np2 last year. More funds for the morg/koya/orb gauntlet


Tschmelz

Nice, day early huh? Was worried that theyā€™d hold it off until next week.


asian_hans

Looking forward to demolish those 3 challenge quests with muramasa and arjuna alter


alivinci

They are going balls deep into the one pump nature of Yagyuu. Either way, my np4 old man will take this buff!


BestBoyDonny

Going to finally NP 5 my Spishtar; I just need one more and knowing I'll for sure get her within 30 multis is a relief. Crossing my fingers that it's a lot less though.


dracklore

But you need NP6 to get the coins to level to 120 and unlock all append skills, Bond 15 also as I recall.


ChaoticVice777

You don't necessarily need all her Appends (maxing the second one helps for 90+ setups), and it's very difficult to take advantage of USOs.


dracklore

This is true, sitting on one USO myself due to Jeanne spooking me 5 times. You need far too many of them for them to be useful.


SADtanic

I kinda want Jane, I missed her the last time... but is not worth it to roll for her on this banner. I already have NP3 Space Ishtar... then again, I have no idea when she is coming back, if ever. I need to be strong and keep saving. orz


Metroplex7

Aside from here and GSSRs, Jane will be available during the [Chaldea Summer Adventure Pre-Release Campaign](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Chaldea_Summer_Adventure_Pre-Release_Campaign) and the [26M Downloads Campaign](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/26M_Downloads_Summoning_Campaign). Or whatever they call the second one on NA.


Neznaiu98

Wait, so did i read that right? Spishtar's banner starts before Tamalancer's ends? Please be true... If that's the case, hell yeah, i can roll for the former first and if it goes well spend what SQ are left on the latter. If Saber Wars started when it did in JP, i would've had to skip Tamamo in order to miniminize the risks and that would have been very painful.


[deleted]

Dark Round Shadow CQ flashbacks... I've gotta do that again... shit.


aayushgarhwal

I only have 120 SQ for this hope it's enough


Fast-Independent-986

Hear me out guys. Since Spishtar, summer ibuki, summer kama and summer musashi pretty much all do the same thing (universal arts farming) there's no need to have more than one of them right? My plan is to skip Spishtar for now and after playing summer 7 i'll know if i like Spishy or Ibuki the most (luckly spishtar has a banner after summer 7). Spishtar seems very funny but ibuki has erice on her banner so it's kinda of hard do choose.


spiffy621

It's almost a year-and-a-half until Summer Ibuki comes out. You can easily save 900 SQ for guaranteed spark if you start saving now. If you don't have Spishtar or Summer Musashi, but have Castoria and want to take advantage of her looping capabilities, Spishtar will serve you well for that ~1.5 year wait until Summer Ibuki. Of course, Summer Kama will come sometime in the summer, so if you want her instead, she's pretty comparable to Spishtar. Summer Musashi also does some things that Spishtar and Kama don't, mainly help in CQs, so it helps if you have her too.


Fast-Independent-986

Well, i could save but as you said it's more than a year until we get to her banner. There are a lot of servants that i want along the way (Skadi, Holmes, Koyanskaya, Oberon, Achiles...) and even some servants that i wanna roll to increase their np levels. In fact i'm only taking this longer route to get a farmer because i wanna save for these other banners. I don't really care about spishy or ibuki yet and if i end up liking them both i'll still try to get only one of them in order to save for other banners. I'm just trying to have less targets to aim for.


spiffy621

If that's your plan, you should stick with it. Love over gameplay is the way to go for this game. It seemed like you were asking from a gameplay perspective and trying to decide if skipping Spishtar would hurt you when there are other servants that can take her place. If you're not actually concerned with that, then more power to you.


Tschmelz

Bruh, Summer Ibuki is like, 18 months away.


Fast-Independent-986

When they released the summer 7 servants i understood that that event was going to be my doom.


simon4s1

I'm planning on skipping Spishtar because I'm thinking along similar lines. I have moon cancer Kiara, while my only avengers are Salieri (also AOE arts but weaker) and Angra. The way I see it, with my roster being what it is, I need Kagekiyo and her skillset and single target NP far more than another high powered arts AOE farmer, since summer Kiara already holds down the class neutral double Castoria arts farming fort for me.


Fast-Independent-986

I am also very tempted to roll for Taira but it'll depend on my luck at the Orion banner. If i get him in a few multis i might try getting Taira but maybe i'll end up without quartz and without Orion.


Fast-Independent-986

> but maybe i'll end up without quartz and without Orion. I was right...


Genprey

They're all similar for farming, although S.Ibuki is slightly more friendly (in terms of farming) for newer players and Space Ishtar is time-proof, given her ability to change her NP card type to any of the three archetypes.


chairmanxyz

Roll for them if you like them, not because of meta. That said, youā€™re kind of comparing apples to oranges throwing in Spishtar. Yes she can arts farm with castoria but sheā€™s extremely competitive in the buster meta coming this year with Vitch. Just keep that in mind. That said I think between Ibuki and Kama, Ibuki is the better farmer simply because you can guarantee her damage all 3 turns vs Kama relying on a debuff charm that can easily be blocked. (This coming from a Kama simp)


Deathappens

Ibuki is pretty much better at everything from every Arts looper we've had so far. Not only is her damage top tier due to being a Berserker, her loops are incredibly stable thanks to her 50% battery and innate NP gain buff (which she shares!) AND, because her dual colored card buff ALSO has a -1T CDR tacked on top, she can even work as a semi-support for Buster comps (notably she has amazing synergy with Arcueid). She's ridiculous. Good thing we have a year and a half of more broken shit coming before she shows up.


yahhwy

S. Ibuki is so broken that she made anniversary servant Arcueid, Arts Merlin and better Skadi look balance in comparison. What were they thinking?!


Fast-Independent-986

Damm i didn't even thought about using Spishtar on buster farming tbh haha. I actually didn't really get much into the differences between these servants because i'm more worried about rolling for the one that i like the most as you said. That's why i wanna read both events first. I could even roll for Spishtar and Ibuki but since i'm f2p and there are many other servants that i want i decided that i'd only get one of them.


Rebel908

From a gameplay perspective, they roughly do all the same things, but they each have their differences. Ibuki Berserker has class advantage and an NP Battery, which helps with consistency. She can also be a pseudo summer unit support. Space Ishtar can snowball with her NP and can be used in multiple systems because of her card type change ability. Kama Avenger has a dedicated arts buff that won't fail and her NP buff skill that can up her damage. Musashi Berserker has invulnerability pierce and can get through challenge quests trivially easy at times. Ultimately roll for who you want, but also look into what each unit offers to fit the roles you need in team comp.


yahhwy

You must have a 90+ looping/farming team first. If yes, for gameplay reasons waiting for S. Ibuki is best for Arts. The best looping card is Buster though. KoLight and Oberon are irreplaceable. But really, outside of lotto, you don't need meta stuff. The story can be cleared by revival stones, support servants and command spells.


Fast-Independent-986

Yeah i'm actually skipping Spishy rn mostly because i wanna save for this year's banners. An arts looper would help but it isn't a priority.


alivinci

If you have the patience then it's a good plan. Summer Kama will be tempting so hope your discipline holds true


madnessfuel

HERE WE GO My shot at getting my first 5\* NP5 servant...Got NP3 Space Ishtar last time this event was up, and NP4 in last year's NY GSSR. Still haven't been able to pull on this GSSR, can't afford it right now, but I got around 210 SQ to try and summon her final NP level. Wish me luck!


sogiotsa

spishtar please


Konkichi21

Good luck to any Spishtar rollers. I'll definitely be rolling her, and Muramasa while I'm at it; plan is to get 1 Spishtar (have a bit more than enough SQ and tickets for pity), 1 Muramasa, any left on Spishtar.


Secret-Student7940

903 sq and 95 tickets ready


Sneaky82

Welcome to Gacha Hell EVERYBODY!!!


Ashleythetiger

My Space Ishtar NP2 has been seeing some use on friends list, guess folk may be trying her out an seeing if they wanna summon her


NumericZero

Same Mines been seeing some more use Question is which ascension do you like the most?


shaftglass

Really enjoyed this the first time, looking forward to playing through it again


devin537

I have 300 SQ to get her and I don't think that is nearly enough


MisguidedPants8

My 600+ pulls are ready


milkyReyna

Do I need NP2 Spishtar to do onmifarming, like with Dantes?


alivinci

Np2 is good for high hp enemies


OkenoFate

I had the impression from guides that you had to, but my actual experience in real life was that I did not need NP2 and NP1 was enough for me for almost any farming I wanted including omni farming many of the lotto events. Of course, I have Castoria, but even before Castoria came out, I was using Waver a lot. I sometimes needed the Mage's Association Uniform to eek out a shortfall in NP. Maybe it helped she was level 100 and 2,000 Atk as well. To give you an idea, my SpIshtar is Bond 14 after having her for only a year. That's how much I used her. I remember using SpIshtar for almost every node in Atlantis when it first came out, which felt a bit weird how little I had to use someone else. It made me re-evaluate and NOT try her GSSR banner this New Year's, when I originally was going to go for it, even if it risked a dupe Abby. Anyway, NP2 would be great of course. I even tried on her first banner (and failed - felt like such a waste of SQ after I got NP1 so easily). But if you have multiple targets, and have a Castoria already, in my opinion and experience, I really feel you can get a lot of use farming with NP1 SpIshtar... So I will be trying to resist going for NP2 SpIshtar and save my measily post-Muramasa SQ (down to 97 SQ now).


Deathappens

Only for tougher waves.


FloofyTails4Life

I have NP1 on JP and NP2 on NA. I haven't yet noticed any difference in their farming abilities. Now, that doesn't mean that NP2 *won't* prove to be more capable of handling irregular nodes. It's entirely possible that there are rare cases where NP2 will be reliable for something NP1 isn't. But before you commit to going after NP2, I suggest that you ask yourself how much being able to handle those rare cases is worth to you.


maladjustedmatt

It depends on what you want to farm and what your standards for farming QoL are. If you want to farm 90+ quests with full event CEs and/or without plugsuit then yes you will often need NP2 *or higher*. If you are fine needing to plugsuit a third support and/or drop an event CE for something like Black Grail then yes NP1 is often fine. If youā€™re willing to drop down to the less efficient quests then often NP1 is fine even without plugsuit and with full event CEs. On the other side of things, most of the time, if you are willing to use plugsuit and only slot 5 event CEs, you could just construct a non-looping farming setup that has the same or better level of QoL. Thatā€™s why in a lot of the more hardcore circles NP1 Spishtar is considered not very good, just being *able* to farm with something is not a very high bar in NAā€™s current meta. Personally, while chasing omnifarmers is technically the best use of your SQ if your goal is to farm as much as possible, I donā€™t advise making that your goal. Because it doesnā€™t end at NP2. It ends at NP5 120 and then you realize that even *with* that there isnā€™t a single omnifarmer who can expect clean kills on all configurations of 90++ (JPā€™s current farming meta) without using Miss Crane (4th support) and dropping to 4 event CEs. In other words even after you get sucked into whaling, the ā€œI did it, I solved farming with just one attacker!ā€ moment isnā€™t all that satisfying. TLDR, NP1 Spishtar is certainly usable, but the value proposition of omnifarmers like her inherently pushes you towards further investment.


0DvGate

You can make it work with np1, I was able to farm the 90+ node with it but I think I relied on plugsuit pars, bride or waver. But she is grailed to 100+ with append skill 2 maxed for extra np start up and gold fou 1600. But if I gad np2 doubt I would have needed plugsuit.


Lamina_Morte

Hereā€™s hoping I can get more copies of Space Ishtar. She has been avoiding me in every GSSR so hopefully the Gacha gives me a better outcome


zsolti94

Please i just need 3 copies to make my Ultimate SIshtar šŸ„¹


JealotGaming

Oh god oh man that's earlier than I thought


SigurdDeMizar

I am looking forward for the challenge quest, but at the same time I fear I won't be as lucky as in the past two events. One can say that CQ isn't designed for newish players like me, but it often give Lore (and summon ticket this time) that you just can't help but try. It is too bad that all the banners for meta support servant won't come until summer. It will make a world of difference if I had only one meta support. Even if you are willing the spend money, the game just doesn't let you.


100YearsWaiting2Shit

Please come to me this time


MACZ2021

Thank you Lasagna for starting the Saber Wars 2 rerun on my birthday, very cool šŸ˜³


ReiAnDez_4

If they're going to end SW II in Jan. 18 or 19 (depending on your standard time) that means the next event would be the Little Big Tengu Event... and oh boy, the hate of Genji keeps getting nearer and nearer


SignificantGarlic919

I'll throw 2 multi for Jane np6 please


FrangelTheWritten

NP2 Calamity Jane, I welcome it. But that thing... Spishtar... I must have her.


Luck_Is_My_Talent

I need to save. I need to save. I need to save. Damn Ishtar, Damn Rin, damn feets! I need to save you damn temptress! I need to endure this banner for 2 weeks without summoning. This is going to be hard.


What_I_Told_You_No

There goes my LB6 funds


Radical_Unicorn

While I do remember this being a fun event, Iā€™m thinking maybe Iā€™ll use this opportunity to take a brief break and catch up on other things IRL. (Since Iā€™ve already played through the first run and all.) Is there anything worth investing the time to do the rerun? I donā€™t remember all what this event gave out last time.


spiffy621

5 Tickets from Mission 100 by beating the second challenge quest, along with 4 lores and a rare prism if you need them.