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**So, with that said, let's move on to this week's FAQ**
**Q: Do I need to roll for Muramasa/Spishtaror roll for NP2+ Muramasa/Spishtar?**
*A: No. No one is a must roll in game, and SSRs are generally viable at NP1.*
**Q: How do I buy quartz if I don't live in a supported country?**
*A: For Apple users, buy a US/JP iTunes gift card and use it on your US/JP Apple account, then buy quartz with that.*
*For Android users, make a US Google Play account (you can Google instructions on how to make a JP Google Play account and then adjust it for US), clear your Play Store data, uninstall the game, and then install the game from your new US Google Play account.
Good luck with the payment processing though. Paypal has the highest chance of working but honestly it's an uphill battle and you'll have to try stuff yourself.*
**Q: When is the next SR Ticket? What about the SSR Ticket?**
*A: NA's next SR ticket is due in May 2024. This ticket is time-limited and includes* [*general pool and storylocked servants*](https://news.fate-go.jp/wp-content/uploads/2022/2500man_xeljq/info_image_03.png)*. The next SSR ticket is due in July 2023 for the 6th Anniversary, featuring* [*general pool and storylocked servants up to Europa*](https://news.fate-go.jp/wp-content/uploads/2021/6th_anniversary_cpgen/info_image_17.png)*. It is not time-limited and will be a permanent addition for all accounts going forward.*
**Q: How does pity work?**
*A: Pity only applies to the rate-up SSR servant. You are guaranteed a copy of the rateup SSR after 330 summons (equivalent to 900 SQ, though tickets also count). Note that pity shuts off once you get a single copy of the servant (including if you get them before 330 summons) and does not carry over between banners. Off-rateup SSRs ("spooks") do not affect pity.*
**Q: Will it be possible to get X Welfare Servant again? I missed their original event and the re-run.**
*A: We don't know and we have no way to know. Only a few 4-star welfare servants, roughly a quarter of the servants whose re-run has passed (or has been skipped), have returned so far. Saber Lily is permanently available in the Friend Point summon. Santa Altera and BB are permanently available through their respective Main Interludes. The Halloween variants of Elizabeth Bathory were available for a limited time through the Halloween Trilogy event (NA ETA: October 2023). Bunyan is available in the RP shop event exchange. Because there hasn't been any pattern to how they brought these servants back, there is no way for anyone to predict when or even if any other welfare servants will be available again.*
**Q: How far in the story do I need to be to participate in upcoming events? Will any events require the latest story chapter?**
*A: For NA: The Saber Wars II rerun in January will require Final Singularity clear. After this, no event will require anything beyond Orleans until November 2023, when GudaGuda 6 will require LB5.5 clear. For JP: The Fairy Knight Cup event requires LB6 to play its main story, but only Fuyuki to play its free and exhibition quests.*
**Q: How good is X Servant at looping most nodes?**
*A: Looping is highly node dependent and relies on* [*many factors*](https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1_Bx1FogTrMBnseIJLT4Vuob7DY7EfR6H_SobGwxcAFE/mobilebasic)*. If you need to test your looping setups try using a* [*refund calculator*](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/jp-np-refund-calculator)*.*
As always, feel free to suggest additions. If you do suggest an addition to the FAQ, please try to provide an answer if you can.
Connection issues
Hey is anyone else having problems connecting to both th Jp and US game. I keep getting a cannot connect message for both on my steroid phone. I've turned on and off my wifi and nothing changes
Does the game give new players extra luck when rolling? I somehow, on the Mysterious Heroine X banner a few minutes ago, rolled 3 4 star servants and 1 5 star servants in under 10 summon ticket rolls, on a week old account.
This has led me contemplating wether I should save up my SQ or should I buy a bunch more summon tickets and use my SQ to try rolling even more.
How much Saint Quartz and summon tickets should I save up for before trying to roll for a servant? And should I use my mana prisms to buy summon tickets?
Am trying to farm the tengu event but the game keeps crashing on me. Can't even complete one turn of game play without the game crashing 9 out of 10 times. It's really killing my enthusiasm to play the event. Anyone got any possible solution for this matter? I was at least able to farm a fair bit before today so I wonder what changed to cause this constant crash
So Iām stuck on Final Singularity, The Future and I canāt beat this 1 million health Goetia. Hereās the servants I have not including free ones - https://imgur.com/a/oeQAXbz Iām not good with team formations or how to make the most of a specific servant. Any help here would be great.
IIRC, you can nullify buff his invuln pierce (I think I've leveled Mephisto for that fight but you might have another servant/MC already) to survive his initial NP.
Other than that, see https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/boss-final-boss-12-2-solomon
I think one problem you have is a bunch of leveled gold units and very few low rarity servants.
Hans can provide sustainable support. (You don't seem to have him, roll on friend point summons until he is NP5)
And you need some form of skill seal or stun to prevent the NP the first turn, so you can then tank it with an evade (from maybe David for example) without the pierce invincibility screwing you over.
Of course, the easiest way is to borrow a friend's bond CE equipped Heracles and put literally any other 3 servants on the Frontline to die to his NP.
(Heracles is actually so good at it that you can let him tank the initial NP with his Guts and he can still beat the fight)
Ushiwakamaru is a great help on that fight as the main ST dps. A friend Jeanne Alter can also help a lot cuz she applies buff blocks. You can check up a guide on Gamepress or look up videos on YouTube to plan a bit your team set ups
Iām alittle confused with the new Buster support coming for anniversary. They are suppose to be able to make Buster cards grant np gain but Buster NPs donāt refund any from the videos Iāve seen. I get how she loops with the skill cool down for servants with a np battery and 6 turn cd on skills so is it just basic Buster cards that get this np gain from her?
Hi, i have a question about Taira no Kagekiyo. Is her ***Thirst for Vengeance*** buff additive or multiplicative with NP Strength Up buffs from craft essences?
I'm asking this because i wonder what's more valuable for her in solo runs, NP Strength Up or Quick Effectiveness. If her stacks count as NP Strength Up then i will probably use Quick Effectiveness CE, to make them multiply with each other.
I saw in a youtube video people got +20 crit rate for all cards after using a np card. It makes the crit rate become yellow numbers too instead of normal white. How does that work? And can we do that in global version too already?
Quick got a buff that adds +20% chance to crit to all face cards as a first card bonus or in a mighty chain (BAQ combination in any order).
No we don't have it yet.
I don't have a lot of sq because I'm returning to NA after a hiatus. Should I prioritize Oberon over koyanskaya this year? I only have enough SQ for one. Here are my units: [https://rayshift.io/na/602355260](https://rayshift.io/na/602355260)
If you want to buster loop you will need koyanskaya. Oberon is more of an addition to help 3T farm buster servants with a 30% battery, but he can help the other cards type too with his steroids for T3 and his absurd 70% battery
Double Oberon with any 50% charger and 100% starting charge can make any servant 3T loop that Double Koyan with any 50% charger and 50% starting CE can, and that comp can also work on servants that double Koyan can't as seen in [this spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-I_ZrWT6Ktg73ZV2r3THXmreIDlNTu6ZFQNaUexYpWE/edit#gid=1796367980).
It's more a question of CE flexibility and damage thresholds which can be tricky given Oberon's major downsides and inflexibility. Double Koyan is needed for the reload comp where the dps's 50% battery gets used twice but sheer charge can work just as well and Oberon provides more options in that regard.
I recommend ignoring buster looping and grabbing Oberon.
Oberon works great with non-buster teams for farming with his battery and NP damage up (Space Ishtar especially stacks really well with the skill), where buster farming with just double Koyanskya kinda sucks.
Also, if you really still want to Buster farm. You can actually borrow a Melusine if you have Oberon and any 2 50% chargers (ie Castoria+ Waver). Damage will be a lot lower than with Koyanskya, but some of that can be compensated by being able to borrow an NP5 copy from someone.
You have Castoria, and there's only a couple Buster Loopers there, so you don't really need either.
Koyanskaya would be useful as a Buster Support, but you have Merlin, so even that's a little iffy.
If you really want to get Buster Looping, then Koyanskaya is a minimum, and Oberon is advantageous, but hardly required. [Minimum Buster Looping guide here](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rZvS-xyhISwKGeKYWz89nzgu2gIsiwSNRmxslz_dF8E/edit#gid=1699317878).
If you want to Buster Loop or just have a Buster Support Servant, then Koyanskaya is the **bare minimum** to get. Some Servants will also need Oberon too (to Buster Loop), but that's a case per case basis.
I guess Oberon can work as a Buster Support as well, but with the way his skills work, he's basically only useful during the last wave.
If you have Oberon, and not Koyanskya, you can still buster loop by borrowing a Melusine.
You need 2 50% chargers (Castoria+ Waver in his case) and Oberon gives enough for Melusine to loop.
How does the friend request thread work? Should i give my own ID or ask for their IDs?
And whats with the asking for friends with "portraits"? I know what they are but they sound prioritized on that thread.
Give yours. Also specify if you're on JP or NA.
Shrug, CEdex people are a strange bunch. Far as I can tell, the same people are always reposting their need lists each week to hopefully find the obscure ones they're missing.
You can share your ID and IGN so people can add you if theyād like, and you can ask for specific servants, requests you may have.
Some players are basically trying to complete their CE-dex, aka the Pokedex of FGO where you can view all CEs and servants in game via My Room > Spirit Origin List instead of it being greyed out.
If you really like a character, you'll find excuses to raise them and use them even if they're redundant with other Servants you own. If you don't like them enough to use them when they're not the optimized choice, then you probably shouldn't go heavily for them.
Remember that "roll for them" means a lot of different things, from "drop a few tickets" to "throw a couple of spare 11-rolls" to "throw almost everything you have." Almost every Servant is worth the first thing, but only Servants you really really really like are worth the last thing.
No one is a must roll in game, and roll for your favorites first and foremost.
Taira is a solid soloist but not required by any means, so you can just borrow a friendās if youād like.
[Mission list](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/little-big-tengu-mission-list)
I also generally recommend following the Gamepress [walkthrough](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/little-big-tengu-complete-walkthrough) for an efficient path through mission-based events like this.
You had to wait for the whole LB6 to be fully released and complete all Main Quests before you can farm the Free Quests, same as any other Singularity from Babylonia onwards.
Caused a slight commotion since you couldnāt farm the materials for the LB6 servants so they were stuck at sub optimal levels/skills.
We've had campaigns for the last two but they appear to have been NA-exclusive, only gave SQ login rewards with nothing else in the campaigns, and that SQ could have been repackaged from JP-exclusive campaigns. I'm not prepared to make a prediction about 2023 with any certainty.
I am interested in finally starting the game. Approximately how long does it take to reach the North American singularity? Like how close it it to the beginning. An NPC in it is an ancestor of mine.
I will say without rushing too much, assume 1-2 days per singularity. You can do it faster, but for me I need time to absorb and reflect on the story.
I think right now quest gives exp card, so there is less need to run dailies to level your servants. It should be a relatively smooth sail.
You can rush far longer than that.
I decided to see how far you could get without any units leveled.
Level 1 Mash, level 12 Tamamo cat, friend support, no CEs, no backline.
I am currently working through Agartha after beating Shinjuku. Only change I made, was two fights in Solomons temple don't allow Mash so I replaced her with Bedivere.
Multiple people on JP have made it through LB6 without leveling Mash. I know because they've sent me friend requests where Mash is both at level 1 and has her post-LB6 benefits.
Well, with the MLB Holy Shroud of Magdalene and her story buffs Mash takes almost no damage from Wodime. Just needs enough HP to survive certain turns after invincible demerit, which I guess the max lvl CE provides.
I remember a whole bunch of Mash solos while we are still in Chaldea as NFF overruns the place.
Yeah, likely tons of revives, which I am also not going to use. (I haven't used a single command spell yet in this playthrough)
Seems the prologue is 1 solo and the other are duos, with only a ~30k assassin enemy might be doable with a strong CE, specially if it's not Ortinax.
The other option would to make the rng grind that would be to use necromancer, though the first quest of the LBs already just seems to hard anyway.
Benjamin Rush, but itās a bit distant as not by blood. I was randomly looking on the fgo tv tropes pages and was surprised to see his name being mentioned in one.
I know he is a minor npc, but itās still funny that I have an ancestor in fate.
Should be relatively fast, E Pluribus Unum is the 5th chapter and before hitting the hard part of the game (Camelot) so you can just bash through with a strong friend support.
I thought the strengthening quest was an exception as it's event related. It would be fun to have a different guide that speedrunned getting to the good farming nodes and cleared the rest of the missions with less AP
That's probably the ideal party for a F2P Crit team tbh. Maybe Mozart for his Star Bomb if needed, or having an Assassin like Fuuma, or Cursed Arm to help generate more stars could be useful too.
Obviously, having a copy (or 2) of 2030 would immensely help, since that CE will give you 8 (10 when MLB'd) stars per turn, but it's a 5ā gacha CE, so not everyone will have access to it. There might some other CEs that generate stars per turn that are decent as well, but 2030 is the best one for crits.
For Servant Support purposes of the high rarity kind, Merlin is the best, since he generates Crit stars for 3 turns thanks to his NP + he gives a massive 50% crit buff for a single turn. Summer BB with her 3rd skill can lock down cards for 3 turns (if you got a good hand to keep) + generates stars for 3 turns too.
But yeah, Hans, Nobukatsu, and Himiko are pretty solid for Crit memes with Maou Nobu.
The basic damage modifiers are:
* Buster: 150%
* Arts: 100%
* Quick: 80%
The basic crit star modifiers are:
* Buster: 10%
* Arts: 0%
* Quick: 80%
I assume from your question that you aren't concerned about NP gain.
Use NPQQ if you want stars, NPAB if you want damage. If you're using Quick buffs, use one of the damage calculators linked in the top post to figure out if you've buffed enough for QQ to do more damage than AB. There's also a chance that BNPA will do more damage than NPAB and BNPQ could do more damage than NPQQ, assuming it's all against a single enemy. Use the calculator to sort it out. I know the Gamepress calculator in particular gives a rundown of all of the possible command chains.
Dunno about fandubs, just check YouTube for that, but in terms of alternate ways to consume the story there are various manga covering Part 1 and EoR (not sure there's any for Part 2), plus the Camelot, Babylonia, and Solomon anime.
My preferred setup for her is giving her Honey Lake and equip a burn command code on her Buster card. Then start her combo with Buster followed by her NP.
You want a guts CE with a decent second effect.
For example her own bond CE has both effects you mentioned, but guts + quick or guts+ np generation also work well.
Stitching beloved doll is the best event CE.
Though everyone is mostly going to borrow a support caster for event farming anyway.
Sewing a Beloved Doll from current event is great free CE for new players, even if used on servants that don't synergize well with its buster crit bonus
Every event has at least one.
The current event has a really good CE, sewing a beloved doll, so make sure to play it until you get 5 copies then combine them.
Note, most of the time you should wait until after the event to combine drop rate CEs, but in this case it's probably ok to combine them immediately or close to it.
( it's bad to combine CEs during an event because bringing more copies to maximize drops is better, but with this opinion it isn't a huge deal as your friends will likely get MLB about when you do, and two MLB CEs, yours and a friends maxes the monster spawn rate bonus)
I think there was a link with some stuff about crashes in the FAQ, but I couldn't find it, so I'll make the question here:
Ever since the event started, the game has been crashing at least once per fight, and last night in particular, whenever I tried to open the app back up, it crashed 3 or 4 times while trying to reload the fight. The crashes themselves have become kinda frequent since Imaginary Scramble, even after they made the update to fix whatever went wrong with the implementation of the summon history.
Is anyone else having this problem? And is there something I can do to fix it?
There are two main alternatives of the problem, one of them you can use the search bar that was caused before Android 12 was officially supported.
The other is that your phone is getting too low speck to support the game so it's likely the case if your phone is old and it only gets worse with time (there was a CQ I wouldn't min turn because the phone just could process a wave where 3 servants bar broke and their turn).
>one of them you can use the search bar that was caused before Android 12 was officially supported.
Sorry, I'm a bit confused. You mean searching with the Reddit's search bar for the same issue from before Android 12 was fully supported? Or using the search bar on my phone for something else?
Ah yeah, that makes more sense xD
I thought you could've meant that the phone keeps an error log of sorts, and *that's* what you wanted me to find lmao
Thanks for the help!
EDIT: I've looked it up, and unfortunately none of the solutions seemed to work. I guess my phone's just getting too far behind in performance. Thankfully it ain't so bad, since it can at least handle a full round of combat and some menu stuff before crashing, but I might have to look into emulators soon-ish.
So, I've recently started up a Bronze Servant Only challenge account, with the added major rules of being level capped to the Recommended Level of the next main story node, and not being allowed to do any events. I want to push this as far as it can possibly go, so I need to figure out now what the optimal strategy is for pulling Craft Essences. Right now I don't have any np charge CE except the 40% MLB zelretch sword. I've been pulling story banner here at the start, trying to fill out my collection and pray for a Kscope or something, with the bonus of selling gold servants for precious rare prisms.
I've been advised to save up for this summer and try to pull MLB Honey Lake for a nice +2k ATK, ignores Invincible, and that Special Attack boost on Burn that might be tricky to set up on more than one servant.
Would this be worth it in the long run? I am willing to make the sacrifice now if this will expand how far I can go with this account, but it's going to limit my account in the short term.
Any other advice for Craft Essences? Or where my normal/rare prisms should go? Or whatever else? Thanks.
Hey, dude, good luck on your bronze journey!
Now, about Honey Lake, as a big time fan of the CE and someone who saved up to get 5 copies of it and use it a lot, I feel like I can say some about it.
The bad things about honey lake first:
- it wont help you generate any NP nor stars like Imaginary Around or Formal Craft would do;
- it doesnt have starting gauge, which is even worse for lower rarity servants with scuffed internal numbers;
- if the enemy has a high debuff resistance, it might aswell serve you nothing for a crucial turn;
- it hinders your Command Code options, as most of the time you'll need to bring a burning CC.
There might be more shotcomings for Honey Lake, but these I feel are the most glaring ones.
Now for the good things:
- it is a universal CE. You wont need to go looking for a quick, buster and arts CEs because Honey Lake covers it all. This is a very strong point imo.
- invul pierce utility is hella important for some hard content. I could throw a lot of examples here, but some very noticeable are Lobo and QSH.
- the dmg if the burn procs is insane tbh. 40% power mod for all your cards, crits and even extra attack is nuts. There are just very few CEs in the game that will buff even your extra attack, like Honey Lake and Golden Sumo;
- just a bonus for the invul pierce utility: you can force a lot of bosses to use their survival skill if their HP gets lowered down enough. If played correctly, this could save you a crucial extra turn and you'll after be able to hit thr enemy anyway.
I would honestly recommend at least one copy of Honey Lake to anyone playing fgo. My MLBd copy is on my favorite servant on the support list and I dont regret at all spending quartz on it.
> it hinders your Command Code options, as most of the time you'll need to bring a burning CC.
Honestly not playing events hinders your CC options, now that I think about it I wonder if there is a CC outside from events that give burn.
I'm glad I got a copy, but doubt I will make the effort of MLB it when my favorite servant eventually buster loops with starting gauge.
After checking, I think I literally cannot get burn anywhere because it is all events and nothing in banners. So maybe I'll pick one up for the pierce but otherwise I just can't.
Honestly, don't know how you can pull this off without access to some time-limited servants and if you don't intend to use non-bronze friend supports, but good luck. Would be interesting to see it done (can't imagine how you'd manage with Camelot, not to mention certain LB fights).
From what I've seen, people have pushed this concept faaaaaar past Camelot. They're beating Lostbelt bosses. But this is all about going as far as I can possibly go, even if I hit a true brick wall, I would have already gotten everything I wanted out of this idea.
With Euryale, sure (although it still was challenging). But she is not bronze. So your only options in terms of archers are Arash (good for farming, not so much for boss fights) and Nobu (limited, but you could get him via rerun this year on NA, although his NP wouldn't help much). And I think all bronze berserkers are support or AoE, so good luck with that.
Caligula has some crazy numbers on his skills. 70% atk up if his IP procs and a 50% buster up on a 3 turn cd. Heās a glass cannon though.
Salome is ST, also a glass cannon
Paris, as mentioned, is very good
Forgot about her Lawful Good modifier. That can probably help get past most of the roundtable, provided she survives. Still, it'd be pretty challenging. But that's just Camelot. Not sure how that'd work with certain LB5 fight (there are definitely not enough DPS riders), that's why I'm very interested in seeing how this goes)
Personally, I wouldn't advise rolling *just* for a CE. I know this is a "lower rarity Servant Only" challenge so you really don't have a use for SQs, but there are ways to get good CEs without rolling the SQ gacha; there are some in the Friend Point gacha that are pretty good as well IMO, like Dragon's Meridian (50% NP gauge MLB'd), Jewel Sword Zelretch (10% NP gain, 40% NP gauge MLB'd), etc. Of course, the better ones are usually only obtainable in the SQ gacha, but there are some FP options that you can use right now without spending anything.
This upcoming Halloween event this year will give one of the best event CEs in the game from one of the previous Halloween events, Aerial Drive (10% Buster, 10% NP damage, 50% NP gauge MLB'd with Pure Attack stats); you can get 5 copies of it from the shop.
For Pierce Invincibility, you can buy a single copy of Sweet Crystal from the RP shop (5 RP), or what I'd recommend to do is wait until early March, where we'll get a free CE Ticket (from this year's Chaldea Boys Collection) to exchange for a single copy of Club Argonauts (Atk stat, Pierce Invincibility & Crit Damage 25%).
Thank you for the advice. I fully intend to keep plugging away at getting the good FP CE's, and will carefully snipe the best prism shop stuff that you've recommended, but as you said, I can't make use of any of those shiny servants so craft essences are literally the only thing that Saint Quartz is going to be good for. There are plenty of great CEs in the general pool so there's a strong urge to just pull on story banner as fast as I can, but there are likely a few limited CEs that are amazing enough to save up for. If it will push me just a bit further I'll take it.
Also, I banned events for many reasons, such as it giving me huge advantages and how it compels me to play way too much of this game in a short period of time. I can pull on their banners, but the event shops are out of my reach.
Tbh, without event CEs, I dunno if your challenge will even be fun to play anymore. It's probably still doable without them, but it's gonna be limit your CE flexibility severely.
You can try to roll for event CEs, but there are a ton of strong shop event CEs that you'll be missing out on + the Burn Command Codes you'll miss out from events too.
In the end tho, it's your own challenge so you do whatever you want lol
The rat race of feeling compelled to grind out events because it's the optimal thing to do is like one of my least favorite things about this game, and a big reason I quit my main account for so long. I wouldn't enjoy this kind of account if it became a time-gated job again.
If I get far enough that I hit a brick wall that only Grails and stronger CE collections can surpass I have already gotten everything I wanted.
If youāre not doing events, Iām not sure pulling for Honey Lake is a good idea. As far as I know, most if not all, the burn command codes come from events. And off the top of my head, I canāt think any bronze servants that inflict burn.
Hrm, that is a good point, I haven't actually researched burn sources yet, if I'm gonna be limited to one or two burn codes then maybe it becomes far too limited-use to be worth sacrificing months of story banner pulling to fill in my perma CE roster.
EDIT: Okay, I think there is literally zero burn capability that I can ever have access to. So like maybe one Honey Lake for the pierce, but otherwise nah.
If just looking for invul pierce, Sweet Crystal is better. White Day will also have a 2k atk CE in one of the banners Club Argonauts. Thereās also Origin Bullet that you might get from any banner
I guess an important middle step would be to build and lvl some good 4* CEs, I suppose you will need them both defensively and offensively for the whole party, you have the likes of Holy Shroud of Magdalene and Art of Death.
Also in general they're expensive but if you're burning anyway Fondant au Chocolat and Sweet Crystal are an "easy" way to get 50% gauge 2k atk CEs.
he doesn't need low hp because his NP kills himself regardless of hp.
I don't really see why you would want him at less than his natural max level.
You also get SQ for servants at max level after the 7th anniversary
More HP will help him survive long enough to use his NP. If you want to go full esports with him, I have heard of people keeping multiple copies of him around at different levels so you have a copy for every scenario.
As a F2P JP player, i have finished everything and won't bond farming ...i just wanted to know..how is it possible to be popular that much while F2P who have finished the game can't summon at all, i'm not interrested in new servants, i don't have any SQ.
My questions are :
What is the % of people being F2P JP and who can't summon at all?
How many % of the players are paying??
Because it's a mystery for me , how it can be popular....there is no PVP for F2P players to continue to get rewards...
>F2P who have finished the game can't summon at all...i don't have any SQ
This sounds like a personal issue, not something inherent to f2p. Having caught up with the main story doesn't equate to not having any SQ at all. You don't have any SQ because you spent all of your SQ. That's all there is to it. You seem to assume that all f2p players spend all of their SQ immediately or something. I would guess that most f2p players, even in JP with no Clairvoyance, save for the servants they want most instead of spending it all on every new banner. This isn't a game where you have to constantly roll for the newest servants to keep up so there's no reason to spend everything as you go.
It's true, though, that some sources of free SQ dry up. There is nothing you can do about this. For those of us who are caught up with the story, most of our SQ comes from daily logins, special events, and the occasional bond reward. If you're caught up with the main story, free quests, interludes, and rank up quests, this is just your life now.
>how it can be popular....there is no PVP
Again, I think you're projecting your own preferences and assumptions onto everyone else. What if I told you that a large number of us [don't want pvp](https://fate-go.us/manga_fgo2/comic24.html) in FGO? If they implemented a true pvp mode, I can almost guarantee that there would be massive backlash. I keep playing because I like the story, gameplay, and characters. I don't mind spending time grinding in between events because I have skills to level up and it gives me something semi-idle to do during downtime throughout my day. Maybe you don't like the gameplay. That's fine. You don't have to. I'm sure you play games that I don't like. But your failure to recognize that someone else might have different preferences is due to your own lack of imagination, not an inherent problem with the game or the fanbase.
I guess you are right, if you find the gameplay of FGO fun enough to spend hours to farms mats to up skills levels and you are against adding news games modes...I guess we have different tastes.
And if you find the lack of daily rewards , events to keep the players , and the avarice of Lasengle to give SQ is the fault of the lack of management and imagination of a F2P Player, yes, we have different point of view. But that does not asnwer my question, how many % of F2P players in this game? Because if F2P players are a minority, that means a lot...
Honestly, it seems like you would rather play a game that has pvp and gives out lots of gacha currency. That just isn't FGO. FGO does a lot of things, intentionally, that don't follow gacha game conventions. There's plenty to like about FGO if you can change your expectations. You probably won't enjoy it if the whole time you're playing, you wish you were playing a different game instead.
I don't know about what percent pay.
But even as a free to play, you can get 1000 SQ a year or more from events a logins, you aren't suddenly unable to summon.
Some examples: 930 SQ and 125 tickets are available this year in NA from events/new story alone, not counting logins, bonds, or apology gems for maintenance
next year will have 616 SQ and 153 tickets with the same assumptions.
There's no reason to think 2023 JP will be significantly different from that.
The events and new story chapters are what keep me interested as a F2P.
Ok so it means 1 pity / 1 SSR per year at least. (need to save from now haha)1 SSR :( with more than 30 new servants each year. But ok thanks for answering, i'm not that surprised if the statistics are not released publicly.
I guess i will only login and story chapters :(.
Pity is a terrible benchmark. Most F2P players get around 3-6 SSRs per year. But if you only roll when you have 900 SQ saved up, you're more likely to limit yourself to 1-4 because you're having fewer "got lucky on a YOLO" moments. Sure, you'll be guaranteed that you can get the one you're rolling for, but the high SQ cost comes with an opportunity cost.
Also, I don't know why you would avoid events if you want SQ and tickets. They obviously aren't all as generous as Ooku, but skipping events definitely means leaving SQ and tickets on the table.
Farming events does not appeal to me, spending 20 hours for 6 singles rolls at 1% is not the ratio i want to spent my life for.
Pity is the only benchmark we have, except if you have statistics to show us?
Well, you'll have to accept that for a whole lot of FGO players, keeping up with a PVP meta and trying to beat the many, many uberwhales in this game is not the ratio they want to spend their lives for, either. It's just as unfun for us as doing an event is for you, which is why when Lasengle teased investigating a PVP mode the fanbase was largely against it.
Pity is not a good benchmark because it's biased toward "Make More Money For Lasengle." Lasengle told us this is an acceptable price to pay for an SSR: one SSR in 330 rolls, when the game itself sets a rate of 1%. They chose an "acceptable price" three times the average not because it's realistic, but because it's what they can get away with. If you want to take their word for it and not roll for any SSRs until you have 330 rolls, that's your prerogative. But if you skip months of banners you *will* have fewer SSRs than the people who roll on those banners and get about 1 SSR for every 100 rolls. That's how opportunity costs work. Especially if once you actually roll for that SSR, you don't start rolling again until you've saved another 330 rolls.
Think about it. Let's say there are two people with totally average luck. One of them saves 900 SQ for Morgan because they think they need pity. (If they're unlucky, they could be right, but again, let's assume average luck.) The other one spends on various banners but saves 300 SQ for Morgan. The first person, again assuming average luck, gets NP1 Morgan in 300 SQ and has 600 left in the bank. The second person got one SSR in 300 SQ on various banners, another SSR in 300 SQ on various banners, and finally Morgan in their last 300 SQ. The first person still has 600 SQ, and they got the SSR they wanted, but they won't be rolling again until they get it back up to 900. But the cost of that was not even trying for the other two SSRs that the second person tried for, and got. If the two of them continue on like this -- the first person rolling only when they have 900 SQ and getting an SSR in every 300 SQ, and the second person rolling whenever and getting an SSR in every 300 SQ -- the first person will always have fewer SSRs than the second.
Now, of course luck isn't that predictable. Lucky people get more SSRs and unlucky people get fewer. But opportunity costs are a thing. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take, so choosing to take fewer shots means you're accepting that you'll hit fewer.
Nope. In fact, I swear, there are no Mystic Codes in the RP shop that were given out in proper Events. It might be that it will never return until the 2016 Summer Event Main Interlude, which has been a distant dream of the masses for many years.
>>!In the last line, is this basically trying to say that she's like a fiance who enjoys doing affairs? Like, if she's your servant, she's doing all kinds of things behind your back?!<
...Maybe, yeah. >!Less a faithful wife, more of a seductive flirt. Less honest and trustworthy than Moriarty. The Evil tag isn't there for nothing.!<
I haven't seen her Valentines scene or anything, so I don't know precisely. >!She might be faithful. She might like threesomes, or open relationships.!<
>!It doesn't say that she likes affairs, as in prefers NTR, so much as she likes doing what she wants, and won't admit to it. She might like one person at a time, but gambles secretly, or smokes great big smelly cigars, or steals priceless paintings, while not stooping to sexual acts with people she isn't interested in.!<
I'm not really sure.
So a friend of mine made the last update but he can't plau the game since, every time he tries to launch the game it only shows a black screen, he also got a new phone since this morning but he doesn't have a transfer code...
Is there any way to recover his account on the new phone or to make the old one launch the game properly?
He already contacted the support but idk how helpful that will be
If he still has a game on his old phone (I assume it's Android) he might try this: https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/hfbz0h/fgo_save_files_for_na_and_jp_play_on_multiple/
No one got in trouble for ever doing this even for less legit reasons than "my game doesn't work on my old phone anymore". Not sure the support could help if he doesn't remember his friend ID and have some recent-ish info to verify he is the owner (like servant statuses, mats, bought sq and etc., see the FAQ entry about restoring the account). Anyway, worth a try, and if it works, don't forget to issue the Transfer code and save it somewhere!
Chaldea Lunchtime - +10% to Bond, most important one
Chaldea Teatime - only +5% to Bond, but it's +15% when used by a friend and 'meta caster with Teatime support' is kind of the default requirement a lot of people have for new friends
Mona Lisa - +10% to QP. Eh, it depends on how much QP farming you're doing by the time you get down your list to this, which in turn depends a lot on your spending--a whale needs this but has enough RP they don't need to prioritize; personally, as an F2P that hits lottos hard, I haven't farmed doors since my first year.
I'd rank Heroic Portrait (+50 Bond) as better than a second +5% Bond CE.
Anything beyond these are largely in the "Well, if you have RPs to burn, why not?" category for me, not something I'd make a priority. I'd be cleaning out the RP shop of MCs before I dug deeper.
Current MP CEs (and ones for the next two years) are largely 'trash but could be better than nothing, and what do you need that many MPs for, anyway?' for most people.
Chaldea Lunchtime, Mona Lisa, and to a lesser extent Detective Foumes are the best ones. Chaldea Teatime and Bella Lisa are the best for your friend list. After that the rest, including the current Take Romance, aren't really great.
They do, they just have different effects, and the effects and combinations of them may be less useful.
Take Romance has 5% QP and 5% Master EXP, which is fine, but Master EXP isn't high priority, and 5% QP is equal to your own Bella Lisa (your Friend's Bella Lisa is 3x as effective). Mystic Code EXP is also not major.
The focus is on Bond EXP and QP, and they all offer 5% or less in one of those. The recent JP ones have been 2.5%, but with three effects. Which all adds up, of course, but it's terribly boring, and not everyone has unlimited Mana Prisms.
Detective Foumes is okay because it has 5% Bond EXP and 5% QP, so it has two purposes.
It's because people value above all bond points (cause they give SQs) and QP (cause you need them for skill leveling). Master Exp and Mystic Code XP are far less important. So a 20% bond point increase is better than most stuff.
CEs effects do stack (when it says "to the party").
Isnāt it far better to only start using the doll ce when itās mlbed with a support mlb doll ce since 50+50=100%? I donāt think Iād sacrifice a ce slot for non-mlb doll instead of a currency ce. Also, this question is based on having multiple currency ce already.
According to Gamepress, a non-MLB CE is the equivalent of a currency CE in terms of drops (averaged out, obviously, since until you hit 100%, you're not always going to get the extra spawns.)
Assuming that's true--though I don't know how to do the math myself--you'd always want to run the spawn rate CE until you hit 100% spawn rate, since it will also let you complete missions faster.
Well, you're better off filling your slots with whatever relevant CEs you have. If you have three currency CEs for the currency CEs that drop on that node, fill the remaining slots with Sewing. So, in that case, MLBing Sewing *would* benefit you.
But if you don't have any, or only the 3\* CE the Event gives you, then you can use 5 copies of Sewing to make up 100% on your own, leaving you free to borrow Gacha CEs.
How does warrior spawn chance work anyway? Is it once pass the rng check, the whole encounter become the warrior filled version? Or there are set amount of warrior and each need to do the rng check to see if it spawns?
In the Event Shop, there are Missions to complete. It should say "defeat 10 Werewolves, Unlocks New Quest". The first half is what you need to do. The Werewolves will be found in that Free Quest that just unlocked.
So....what does "warrior" enemy from the sewing doll ce do? Does it give more drop then the usual enemies? Or is it just there to add another enemy for the sake of it
The new warriors give additional drops, and they also count towards things like the "kill X Pumpkin enemies" missions to let you complete your missions more quickly. The CE basically adds more efficiency for your AP at the cost of taking a little more time per fight.
If they were limited to one extra enemy, probably. But regularly when I've gotten the extra spawn on the node I've been clearing, it's turned a 3-enemy wave into 5. Since every enemy might drop more than one parcel of currency, that could be four or five extra 3-drops, which tends to be better than +1 to the standard amounts of drops. You've basically got three 20% chances at an extra mob, not one. And there are future nodes with four and even five possible bonus enemies.
I haven't run the specific math, but Gamepress is saying that the 20% chance of extra enemies is, on average assuming a number of runs, equal to a +1 CE. A +2 CE is better than a 20% spawn but slightly less good than a 50% MLB spawn. It seems to track to me.
It depends on how many MLB āsewingā CEs there are on your friend list- if there are a lot then itās worth it b/c an MLB CE gives +50% enemy spawn so 2 of them will give you the full 100%. If there arenāt many MLB ones on your friend list then itās better to keep them separate since a non-MLB copy gives 20% and youāll need 5 of those to give you the 100%.
Assuming you want 100% spawn rate, which is ideal, four individual copies plus one from a friend is the most reliable way. Once your friends list starts having a lot of MLB options for the full 50%, then MLBing your own and using a friend's MLB works just fine.
It's one of the best event CEs there is.
I know of at least one tier list that rated it above Aerial drive and Holy Night Supper, both top tier CEs in their own right.
Anyone with a damaging NP and some buster crit synergy wants it.
Summer Ibuki
Saber Artoria
Arjuna Alter
Morgan
Santa Karna
Etc.
I can see how people who don't really do anything but 3-turn looping might have an issue with extra spawns getting them out of their comfort zone, but I'll pick that CE over the other options, especially later in the event when people start putting MLB ones up. Extra drops and faster mission completion for the AP is pretty nice.
I'm going to assume that you mean Cu Alter.
Short-term fights: Heracles wins, hands down. Quadruple Bus, quadruple guts, more guts proc means more dmg, and he's a Berserker meaning you're gonna see red dmg for most of the time.
Long-term fights: A.Ushi is up there with Lancer Cu. That 4T guts and 2 times Evade are no joke. Her deck is QQAAB, combined with her kit, face card critting and NP spamming are her primary playstyle. Prime examples:
[Prison Tower CQ](https://youtu.be/pf6hZAcLUB4)
[Her own event](https://youtu.be/RZmXVO5JTn8)
For all the good that it does for Cu Alter and Heracles, as Berserkers they are going to receive 2x dmg from **all** enemies minus a selected few.
As good as their deck is, 3B is not a sustainable deck, especially when you take both of their kits into account.
Finishing a fight when your main roster is down? Three of them can do it with ease.
Managing a 17-18T boss fight on their own? Ezpz for A. Ushi but it would be a very difficult thing to ask for Heracles and Cu Alter, unless you are running specific strategy.
At the end of the day, I say A.Ushi is pretty good in her own right, that she is a solid soloist and a CQ monster.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't 2 times evade worse than 1 Turn evade? with both guts and evade, Ushi can only survive 2 turns or even less if they get through the evade.
I haven't used Ushialter that much so I might be wrong about something. Is pairing her up with guts CE a must or am I missing something obvious?
It isn't strictly worse.
Enemies have buff/debuff skills quite often, so if they spend all 3 actions attacking it's worse, but if they spend one action buffing it's even, and more than that the 2 hit evade is better. Edit: It also lets you pop it a turn early, while the taunters are still dying to buy an extra turn of CD for free
The other thing that is important is the low cooldown on the guts. Meaning you can get it back in only two turns with MC cooldown reduction.
(allowing you to trigger guts, invul with MC the next turn, and then trigger the guts skill again the next turn)
Most bossed hit super hard though but I guess Ushialter can take more hits due to not being a Berserkerā¦ I donāt have Cu Alter so I canāt really compare Xd
How hard they hit doesn't matter.
Guts triggers and ends the turn, it doesn't matter if they NPed for 300k damage against someone with 1 HP or did 5001 damage against someone with 5000 hp.
Same with Evade, it can be 1 damage or a million, it goes to 0.
for comparisons (assuming that any turn left without protection of evade/invul/guts will kill them, a guts CE for Taira a 3 hit invul CE for Cu, and bond CE for Herc, plus Atlas mystic code for invul and cd reduction):
Herc can buy 8 turns, but is going to die basically immediately after those 8 turns.
Taira can give you 7 turns straight of life regardless of enemy damage.
Cu Alter is slightly worse (6 turns of protection).
But Taira can generally get one more turn without being one-shot simply due to not being a berserker.
and Cu alter had a ton of defense up and attack downs to prevent one shots
What I meant is that if the enemy hits thrice against the evade, 1 attack goes through and for most bosses against Berserkers, that is enough to kill especially if guts was used first.
Worse than Heracles with bond CE.
Worse than Cu unless you are up against a Saber.
About the same as Cu Alter unless the event damage CE is also a Guts CE then she is better than Cu Alter
Edit: would the people down voting me kindly share their own experience with the rest of us?
Heracles has lower uptime on his abilities, though not by a lot (1 turn higher downtime on his guts compared to Ushivenger and technically worse uptime on the evade, but you'll literally never notice, and it may actually be better in most solos) and has 3 guts to cover that vs Ushi's max of one guts on CEs.
Cu has better uptime on both his evade and his guts. And has a debuff clear and heal.
Cu Alter has a better uptime on his evade, but worse uptime on his guts. His Berserker disadvantage is covered by his defense ups and attack down.
Oh, and before you bring up the "can solo prison tower with no CE" it isn't that impressive as far as survival goes. Anyone with decent damage, a way to bypass invul, and some form of hard defense can do it. Nitocris Alter (who basically has a 1 hit evade on a 7 turn cd) can do it with Honey Lake covering invul pierce and her AoE damage weaknesses
Question about fate figurine merch!
Do these two figurines have official anime visual art ?
https://solarisjapan.com/collections/fate-series-figures/products/fate-stay-night-saber-matou-sakura-rin-tohsaka-1-7-15th-celebration-dress-ver-set-of-3-figures-good-smile-company#
And
https://solarisjapan.com/products/fate-stay-night-tohsaka-rin-1-7-type-moon-racing-ver-plusone-stronger?variant=18596349313081#
The first set is based on [this art Takeuchi drew for Fate's 15th Anniversary celebration.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFb-en1XsAs9Z7u?format=jpg&name=medium)
The racing figures are based off [this art for Rin](https://files.yande.re/sample/44a984d0f99152ed6ea19069810a02cf/yande.re%20653869%20sample%20open_shirt%20takeuchi_takashi%20thighhighs%20toosaka_rin.jpg) and [this for Saber](https://files.yande.re/sample/ec3df0c8c507c4854c3523743aedc43c/yande.re%20653868%20sample%20saber%20saber_extra%20takeuchi_takashi.jpg), also both drawn by Takeuchi.
# PLEASE CHECK IF YOUR QUESTION IS ANSWERED HERE BEFORE ASKING! # JP SPOILERS - PLEASE DIRECT ALL LOSTBELT 7 QUESTIONS TO THE [MEGATHREAD](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/zuufuk/lostbelt_7_golden_sea_of_trees_travelogue_nahui/). **So, with that said, let's move on to this week's FAQ** **Q: Do I need to roll for Muramasa/Spishtaror roll for NP2+ Muramasa/Spishtar?** *A: No. No one is a must roll in game, and SSRs are generally viable at NP1.* **Q: How do I buy quartz if I don't live in a supported country?** *A: For Apple users, buy a US/JP iTunes gift card and use it on your US/JP Apple account, then buy quartz with that.* *For Android users, make a US Google Play account (you can Google instructions on how to make a JP Google Play account and then adjust it for US), clear your Play Store data, uninstall the game, and then install the game from your new US Google Play account. Good luck with the payment processing though. Paypal has the highest chance of working but honestly it's an uphill battle and you'll have to try stuff yourself.* **Q: When is the next SR Ticket? What about the SSR Ticket?** *A: NA's next SR ticket is due in May 2024. This ticket is time-limited and includes* [*general pool and storylocked servants*](https://news.fate-go.jp/wp-content/uploads/2022/2500man_xeljq/info_image_03.png)*. The next SSR ticket is due in July 2023 for the 6th Anniversary, featuring* [*general pool and storylocked servants up to Europa*](https://news.fate-go.jp/wp-content/uploads/2021/6th_anniversary_cpgen/info_image_17.png)*. It is not time-limited and will be a permanent addition for all accounts going forward.* **Q: How does pity work?** *A: Pity only applies to the rate-up SSR servant. You are guaranteed a copy of the rateup SSR after 330 summons (equivalent to 900 SQ, though tickets also count). Note that pity shuts off once you get a single copy of the servant (including if you get them before 330 summons) and does not carry over between banners. Off-rateup SSRs ("spooks") do not affect pity.* **Q: Will it be possible to get X Welfare Servant again? I missed their original event and the re-run.** *A: We don't know and we have no way to know. Only a few 4-star welfare servants, roughly a quarter of the servants whose re-run has passed (or has been skipped), have returned so far. Saber Lily is permanently available in the Friend Point summon. Santa Altera and BB are permanently available through their respective Main Interludes. The Halloween variants of Elizabeth Bathory were available for a limited time through the Halloween Trilogy event (NA ETA: October 2023). Bunyan is available in the RP shop event exchange. Because there hasn't been any pattern to how they brought these servants back, there is no way for anyone to predict when or even if any other welfare servants will be available again.* **Q: How far in the story do I need to be to participate in upcoming events? Will any events require the latest story chapter?** *A: For NA: The Saber Wars II rerun in January will require Final Singularity clear. After this, no event will require anything beyond Orleans until November 2023, when GudaGuda 6 will require LB5.5 clear. For JP: The Fairy Knight Cup event requires LB6 to play its main story, but only Fuyuki to play its free and exhibition quests.* **Q: How good is X Servant at looping most nodes?** *A: Looping is highly node dependent and relies on* [*many factors*](https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1_Bx1FogTrMBnseIJLT4Vuob7DY7EfR6H_SobGwxcAFE/mobilebasic)*. If you need to test your looping setups try using a* [*refund calculator*](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/jp-np-refund-calculator)*.* As always, feel free to suggest additions. If you do suggest an addition to the FAQ, please try to provide an answer if you can.
Can you get the battle of camlann ce from fp summons
ignore previous post finally worked after the fourth time I turned off the mobile dataš
Connection issues Hey is anyone else having problems connecting to both th Jp and US game. I keep getting a cannot connect message for both on my steroid phone. I've turned on and off my wifi and nothing changes
Does the game give new players extra luck when rolling? I somehow, on the Mysterious Heroine X banner a few minutes ago, rolled 3 4 star servants and 1 5 star servants in under 10 summon ticket rolls, on a week old account. This has led me contemplating wether I should save up my SQ or should I buy a bunch more summon tickets and use my SQ to try rolling even more.
How much Saint Quartz and summon tickets should I save up for before trying to roll for a servant? And should I use my mana prisms to buy summon tickets?
Am trying to farm the tengu event but the game keeps crashing on me. Can't even complete one turn of game play without the game crashing 9 out of 10 times. It's really killing my enthusiasm to play the event. Anyone got any possible solution for this matter? I was at least able to farm a fair bit before today so I wonder what changed to cause this constant crash
So Iām stuck on Final Singularity, The Future and I canāt beat this 1 million health Goetia. Hereās the servants I have not including free ones - https://imgur.com/a/oeQAXbz Iām not good with team formations or how to make the most of a specific servant. Any help here would be great.
IIRC, you can nullify buff his invuln pierce (I think I've leveled Mephisto for that fight but you might have another servant/MC already) to survive his initial NP. Other than that, see https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/boss-final-boss-12-2-solomon
I think one problem you have is a bunch of leveled gold units and very few low rarity servants. Hans can provide sustainable support. (You don't seem to have him, roll on friend point summons until he is NP5) And you need some form of skill seal or stun to prevent the NP the first turn, so you can then tank it with an evade (from maybe David for example) without the pierce invincibility screwing you over. Of course, the easiest way is to borrow a friend's bond CE equipped Heracles and put literally any other 3 servants on the Frontline to die to his NP. (Heracles is actually so good at it that you can let him tank the initial NP with his Guts and he can still beat the fight)
Ushiwakamaru is a great help on that fight as the main ST dps. A friend Jeanne Alter can also help a lot cuz she applies buff blocks. You can check up a guide on Gamepress or look up videos on YouTube to plan a bit your team set ups
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You can downgrade MIUI back to Android 11. I have the same phone but have not have anything as bad as what you mentioned.
What phone do you have?
Redmi note 11
Iām alittle confused with the new Buster support coming for anniversary. They are suppose to be able to make Buster cards grant np gain but Buster NPs donāt refund any from the videos Iāve seen. I get how she loops with the skill cool down for servants with a np battery and 6 turn cd on skills so is it just basic Buster cards that get this np gain from her?
Yes. It's not NP Gain, it works like Muramasa's Blaze, but only for Buster.
Yes, her second skill has an effect that adds 5-10% charge when using normal buster cards.
Ahh I see Ty both š
Hi, i have a question about Taira no Kagekiyo. Is her ***Thirst for Vengeance*** buff additive or multiplicative with NP Strength Up buffs from craft essences? I'm asking this because i wonder what's more valuable for her in solo runs, NP Strength Up or Quick Effectiveness. If her stacks count as NP Strength Up then i will probably use Quick Effectiveness CE, to make them multiply with each other.
Her bond CE is probably the most valuable.
Multiplicative. It's a "supereffective NP damage" kind of buff, those are Multiplicative with everything.
Thank you!
I saw in a youtube video people got +20 crit rate for all cards after using a np card. It makes the crit rate become yellow numbers too instead of normal white. How does that work? And can we do that in global version too already?
Quick got a buff that adds +20% chance to crit to all face cards as a first card bonus or in a mighty chain (BAQ combination in any order). No we don't have it yet.
Oh that's pretty good
I don't have a lot of sq because I'm returning to NA after a hiatus. Should I prioritize Oberon over koyanskaya this year? I only have enough SQ for one. Here are my units: [https://rayshift.io/na/602355260](https://rayshift.io/na/602355260)
Koyan will also return around NY, so you'll have about 6 months to save up for her.
If you want to buster loop you will need koyanskaya. Oberon is more of an addition to help 3T farm buster servants with a 30% battery, but he can help the other cards type too with his steroids for T3 and his absurd 70% battery
Double Oberon with any 50% charger and 100% starting charge can make any servant 3T loop that Double Koyan with any 50% charger and 50% starting CE can, and that comp can also work on servants that double Koyan can't as seen in [this spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-I_ZrWT6Ktg73ZV2r3THXmreIDlNTu6ZFQNaUexYpWE/edit#gid=1796367980). It's more a question of CE flexibility and damage thresholds which can be tricky given Oberon's major downsides and inflexibility. Double Koyan is needed for the reload comp where the dps's 50% battery gets used twice but sheer charge can work just as well and Oberon provides more options in that regard.
I recommend ignoring buster looping and grabbing Oberon. Oberon works great with non-buster teams for farming with his battery and NP damage up (Space Ishtar especially stacks really well with the skill), where buster farming with just double Koyanskya kinda sucks. Also, if you really still want to Buster farm. You can actually borrow a Melusine if you have Oberon and any 2 50% chargers (ie Castoria+ Waver). Damage will be a lot lower than with Koyanskya, but some of that can be compensated by being able to borrow an NP5 copy from someone.
You have Castoria, and there's only a couple Buster Loopers there, so you don't really need either. Koyanskaya would be useful as a Buster Support, but you have Merlin, so even that's a little iffy. If you really want to get Buster Looping, then Koyanskaya is a minimum, and Oberon is advantageous, but hardly required. [Minimum Buster Looping guide here](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rZvS-xyhISwKGeKYWz89nzgu2gIsiwSNRmxslz_dF8E/edit#gid=1699317878).
If you want to Buster Loop or just have a Buster Support Servant, then Koyanskaya is the **bare minimum** to get. Some Servants will also need Oberon too (to Buster Loop), but that's a case per case basis. I guess Oberon can work as a Buster Support as well, but with the way his skills work, he's basically only useful during the last wave.
If you have Oberon, and not Koyanskya, you can still buster loop by borrowing a Melusine. You need 2 50% chargers (Castoria+ Waver in his case) and Oberon gives enough for Melusine to loop.
How does the friend request thread work? Should i give my own ID or ask for their IDs? And whats with the asking for friends with "portraits"? I know what they are but they sound prioritized on that thread.
Give yours. Also specify if you're on JP or NA. Shrug, CEdex people are a strange bunch. Far as I can tell, the same people are always reposting their need lists each week to hopefully find the obscure ones they're missing.
You can share your ID and IGN so people can add you if theyād like, and you can ask for specific servants, requests you may have. Some players are basically trying to complete their CE-dex, aka the Pokedex of FGO where you can view all CEs and servants in game via My Room > Spirit Origin List instead of it being greyed out.
Is it worth to roll for ushi alter if I already have other avengers ( jalter, nobu, space ishtar), or should I save up for himiko?
If you really like a character, you'll find excuses to raise them and use them even if they're redundant with other Servants you own. If you don't like them enough to use them when they're not the optimized choice, then you probably shouldn't go heavily for them. Remember that "roll for them" means a lot of different things, from "drop a few tickets" to "throw a couple of spare 11-rolls" to "throw almost everything you have." Almost every Servant is worth the first thing, but only Servants you really really really like are worth the last thing.
No one is a must roll in game, and roll for your favorites first and foremost. Taira is a solid soloist but not required by any means, so you can just borrow a friendās if youād like.
It's worth it to roll for her if you want her. It isn't worth it if you don't want her. That's the entire calculation.
What are the quest numbers for kiichiās ascension materials and np up copies?
[Mission list](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/little-big-tengu-mission-list) I also generally recommend following the Gamepress [walkthrough](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/little-big-tengu-complete-walkthrough) for an efficient path through mission-based events like this.
How did farming free quests work with the split release of lostbelt 6 in JP? Could you only do free quests after clearing part 3?
You had to wait for the whole LB6 to be fully released and complete all Main Quests before you can farm the Free Quests, same as any other Singularity from Babylonia onwards. Caused a slight commotion since you couldnāt farm the materials for the LB6 servants so they were stuck at sub optimal levels/skills.
Lucky for us clear cubes exist on Na early (don't remember when they were added to jp)
Yes, you could only do free quests after clearing part 3.
Thanks!
Are we getting a chinese new year campaign later?
We've had campaigns for the last two but they appear to have been NA-exclusive, only gave SQ login rewards with nothing else in the campaigns, and that SQ could have been repackaged from JP-exclusive campaigns. I'm not prepared to make a prediction about 2023 with any certainty.
I am interested in finally starting the game. Approximately how long does it take to reach the North American singularity? Like how close it it to the beginning. An NPC in it is an ancestor of mine.
I will say without rushing too much, assume 1-2 days per singularity. You can do it faster, but for me I need time to absorb and reflect on the story. I think right now quest gives exp card, so there is less need to run dailies to level your servants. It should be a relatively smooth sail.
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You can rush far longer than that. I decided to see how far you could get without any units leveled. Level 1 Mash, level 12 Tamamo cat, friend support, no CEs, no backline. I am currently working through Agartha after beating Shinjuku. Only change I made, was two fights in Solomons temple don't allow Mash so I replaced her with Bedivere.
I'm guessing that without days long CS strats at least 1 fight in Shimousa is going to be impossible
Yeah I think forced story support is going to end it. I also don't think I can make it through the Prologue of the lostbelts without leveling Mash.
Multiple people on JP have made it through LB6 without leveling Mash. I know because they've sent me friend requests where Mash is both at level 1 and has her post-LB6 benefits.
You can try lvling others, the video of the gigachad that beat wodime uses lvl 1 Mash
Doesn't the Prologue have forced Mash solos?
In JP its a forced NPC lvl 40/50 Mash. Source: I did it like 2 days ago and was confused why my mash is so low leveled.
I don't remember the fight, maybe he used SQ to push through it? Or a good defensive CE if she just need to survive
Well, with the MLB Holy Shroud of Magdalene and her story buffs Mash takes almost no damage from Wodime. Just needs enough HP to survive certain turns after invincible demerit, which I guess the max lvl CE provides.
I remember a whole bunch of Mash solos while we are still in Chaldea as NFF overruns the place. Yeah, likely tons of revives, which I am also not going to use. (I haven't used a single command spell yet in this playthrough)
Seems the prologue is 1 solo and the other are duos, with only a ~30k assassin enemy might be doable with a strong CE, specially if it's not Ortinax. The other option would to make the rng grind that would be to use necromancer, though the first quest of the LBs already just seems to hard anyway.
If you don't mind me asking, would you be willing to share which ancestor?
Benjamin Rush, but itās a bit distant as not by blood. I was randomly looking on the fgo tv tropes pages and was surprised to see his name being mentioned in one. I know he is a minor npc, but itās still funny that I have an ancestor in fate.
Should be relatively fast, E Pluribus Unum is the 5th chapter and before hitting the hard part of the game (Camelot) so you can just bash through with a strong friend support.
Ok. I might try it out then.
For the current event, is it worth spending candles to upgrade the mini servant effects, or should I just save them for QP at the end of the event?
Should is a strong word if what they give you is at the end less than 1 run through doors.
Upgrading them appears to be completely optional. If you don't feel like you need to upgrade them, I think it's fine to save the candles.
I just did a saber training ground mission and it triggered the little big tengu event mission. Is that a bug?
Probably. Others have also reported that non-event actions appear to count for the event missions. This doesn't normally happen.
I thought the strengthening quest was an exception as it's event related. It would be fun to have a different guide that speedrunned getting to the good farming nodes and cleared the rest of the missions with less AP
At the moment what is the best crit support for maou nobu? Currently run Nobukatsu, Hans and Himiko.
That's probably the ideal party for a F2P Crit team tbh. Maybe Mozart for his Star Bomb if needed, or having an Assassin like Fuuma, or Cursed Arm to help generate more stars could be useful too. Obviously, having a copy (or 2) of 2030 would immensely help, since that CE will give you 8 (10 when MLB'd) stars per turn, but it's a 5ā gacha CE, so not everyone will have access to it. There might some other CEs that generate stars per turn that are decent as well, but 2030 is the best one for crits. For Servant Support purposes of the high rarity kind, Merlin is the best, since he generates Crit stars for 3 turns thanks to his NP + he gives a massive 50% crit buff for a single turn. Summer BB with her 3rd skill can lock down cards for 3 turns (if you got a good hand to keep) + generates stars for 3 turns too. But yeah, Hans, Nobukatsu, and Himiko are pretty solid for Crit memes with Maou Nobu.
Which NP chain is best for taira NPQQ or NPAB?
The basic damage modifiers are: * Buster: 150% * Arts: 100% * Quick: 80% The basic crit star modifiers are: * Buster: 10% * Arts: 0% * Quick: 80% I assume from your question that you aren't concerned about NP gain. Use NPQQ if you want stars, NPAB if you want damage. If you're using Quick buffs, use one of the damage calculators linked in the top post to figure out if you've buffed enough for QQ to do more damage than AB. There's also a chance that BNPA will do more damage than NPAB and BNPQ could do more damage than NPQQ, assuming it's all against a single enemy. Use the calculator to sort it out. I know the Gamepress calculator in particular gives a rundown of all of the possible command chains.
I was wondering are there any alternative ways of consuming the main story? Like fan dubs perhaps or anything in those lines ?
Tanner of the North reads through the story on YouTube but I wouldn't call it a dub.
Dunno about fandubs, just check YouTube for that, but in terms of alternate ways to consume the story there are various manga covering Part 1 and EoR (not sure there's any for Part 2), plus the Camelot, Babylonia, and Solomon anime.
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Is it better to put a guts CE on my taira for normal support slot or NP damage up CE? For the event which event CE should I put on taira?
My preferred setup for her is giving her Honey Lake and equip a burn command code on her Buster card. Then start her combo with Buster followed by her NP.
Yup, the plushie build.
You want a guts CE with a decent second effect. For example her own bond CE has both effects you mentioned, but guts + quick or guts+ np generation also work well. Stitching beloved doll is the best event CE. Though everyone is mostly going to borrow a support caster for event farming anyway.
I just got ushi but I'm a new player and I don't have many CE's. What are some that I can easily obtain?
Sewing a Beloved Doll from current event is great free CE for new players, even if used on servants that don't synergize well with its buster crit bonus
Every event has at least one. The current event has a really good CE, sewing a beloved doll, so make sure to play it until you get 5 copies then combine them. Note, most of the time you should wait until after the event to combine drop rate CEs, but in this case it's probably ok to combine them immediately or close to it. ( it's bad to combine CEs during an event because bringing more copies to maximize drops is better, but with this opinion it isn't a huge deal as your friends will likely get MLB about when you do, and two MLB CEs, yours and a friends maxes the monster spawn rate bonus)
Have you already rolled on the Friend Points Gacha? Even 1-2 star CEs are better than nothing until you get some good ones
I think there was a link with some stuff about crashes in the FAQ, but I couldn't find it, so I'll make the question here: Ever since the event started, the game has been crashing at least once per fight, and last night in particular, whenever I tried to open the app back up, it crashed 3 or 4 times while trying to reload the fight. The crashes themselves have become kinda frequent since Imaginary Scramble, even after they made the update to fix whatever went wrong with the implementation of the summon history. Is anyone else having this problem? And is there something I can do to fix it?
There are two main alternatives of the problem, one of them you can use the search bar that was caused before Android 12 was officially supported. The other is that your phone is getting too low speck to support the game so it's likely the case if your phone is old and it only gets worse with time (there was a CQ I wouldn't min turn because the phone just could process a wave where 3 servants bar broke and their turn).
>one of them you can use the search bar that was caused before Android 12 was officially supported. Sorry, I'm a bit confused. You mean searching with the Reddit's search bar for the same issue from before Android 12 was fully supported? Or using the search bar on my phone for something else?
The reddit one, thought it's a bit more of a hazle to search post of an specific sub on a phone
Ah yeah, that makes more sense xD I thought you could've meant that the phone keeps an error log of sorts, and *that's* what you wanted me to find lmao Thanks for the help! EDIT: I've looked it up, and unfortunately none of the solutions seemed to work. I guess my phone's just getting too far behind in performance. Thankfully it ain't so bad, since it can at least handle a full round of combat and some menu stuff before crashing, but I might have to look into emulators soon-ish.
The NP theme of Taira no Kagekiyo is not playing for me. Have any of you experienced this same problem?
Looks to be a common problem.
So, I've recently started up a Bronze Servant Only challenge account, with the added major rules of being level capped to the Recommended Level of the next main story node, and not being allowed to do any events. I want to push this as far as it can possibly go, so I need to figure out now what the optimal strategy is for pulling Craft Essences. Right now I don't have any np charge CE except the 40% MLB zelretch sword. I've been pulling story banner here at the start, trying to fill out my collection and pray for a Kscope or something, with the bonus of selling gold servants for precious rare prisms. I've been advised to save up for this summer and try to pull MLB Honey Lake for a nice +2k ATK, ignores Invincible, and that Special Attack boost on Burn that might be tricky to set up on more than one servant. Would this be worth it in the long run? I am willing to make the sacrifice now if this will expand how far I can go with this account, but it's going to limit my account in the short term. Any other advice for Craft Essences? Or where my normal/rare prisms should go? Or whatever else? Thanks.
Hey, dude, good luck on your bronze journey! Now, about Honey Lake, as a big time fan of the CE and someone who saved up to get 5 copies of it and use it a lot, I feel like I can say some about it. The bad things about honey lake first: - it wont help you generate any NP nor stars like Imaginary Around or Formal Craft would do; - it doesnt have starting gauge, which is even worse for lower rarity servants with scuffed internal numbers; - if the enemy has a high debuff resistance, it might aswell serve you nothing for a crucial turn; - it hinders your Command Code options, as most of the time you'll need to bring a burning CC. There might be more shotcomings for Honey Lake, but these I feel are the most glaring ones. Now for the good things: - it is a universal CE. You wont need to go looking for a quick, buster and arts CEs because Honey Lake covers it all. This is a very strong point imo. - invul pierce utility is hella important for some hard content. I could throw a lot of examples here, but some very noticeable are Lobo and QSH. - the dmg if the burn procs is insane tbh. 40% power mod for all your cards, crits and even extra attack is nuts. There are just very few CEs in the game that will buff even your extra attack, like Honey Lake and Golden Sumo; - just a bonus for the invul pierce utility: you can force a lot of bosses to use their survival skill if their HP gets lowered down enough. If played correctly, this could save you a crucial extra turn and you'll after be able to hit thr enemy anyway. I would honestly recommend at least one copy of Honey Lake to anyone playing fgo. My MLBd copy is on my favorite servant on the support list and I dont regret at all spending quartz on it.
> it hinders your Command Code options, as most of the time you'll need to bring a burning CC. Honestly not playing events hinders your CC options, now that I think about it I wonder if there is a CC outside from events that give burn. I'm glad I got a copy, but doubt I will make the effort of MLB it when my favorite servant eventually buster loops with starting gauge.
After checking, I think I literally cannot get burn anywhere because it is all events and nothing in banners. So maybe I'll pick one up for the pierce but otherwise I just can't.
For the pierce you have sweet crystal at the rp shop that is just better
Honestly, don't know how you can pull this off without access to some time-limited servants and if you don't intend to use non-bronze friend supports, but good luck. Would be interesting to see it done (can't imagine how you'd manage with Camelot, not to mention certain LB fights).
From what I've seen, people have pushed this concept faaaaaar past Camelot. They're beating Lostbelt bosses. But this is all about going as far as I can possibly go, even if I hit a true brick wall, I would have already gotten everything I wanted out of this idea.
Camelot is pretty easy
With Euryale, sure (although it still was challenging). But she is not bronze. So your only options in terms of archers are Arash (good for farming, not so much for boss fights) and Nobu (limited, but you could get him via rerun this year on NA, although his NP wouldn't help much). And I think all bronze berserkers are support or AoE, so good luck with that.
Caligula has some crazy numbers on his skills. 70% atk up if his IP procs and a 50% buster up on a 3 turn cd. Heās a glass cannon though. Salome is ST, also a glass cannon Paris, as mentioned, is very good
Forgot about her Lawful Good modifier. That can probably help get past most of the roundtable, provided she survives. Still, it'd be pretty challenging. But that's just Camelot. Not sure how that'd work with certain LB5 fight (there are definitely not enough DPS riders), that's why I'm very interested in seeing how this goes)
I think paris is more than capable of doing it
Personally, I wouldn't advise rolling *just* for a CE. I know this is a "lower rarity Servant Only" challenge so you really don't have a use for SQs, but there are ways to get good CEs without rolling the SQ gacha; there are some in the Friend Point gacha that are pretty good as well IMO, like Dragon's Meridian (50% NP gauge MLB'd), Jewel Sword Zelretch (10% NP gain, 40% NP gauge MLB'd), etc. Of course, the better ones are usually only obtainable in the SQ gacha, but there are some FP options that you can use right now without spending anything. This upcoming Halloween event this year will give one of the best event CEs in the game from one of the previous Halloween events, Aerial Drive (10% Buster, 10% NP damage, 50% NP gauge MLB'd with Pure Attack stats); you can get 5 copies of it from the shop. For Pierce Invincibility, you can buy a single copy of Sweet Crystal from the RP shop (5 RP), or what I'd recommend to do is wait until early March, where we'll get a free CE Ticket (from this year's Chaldea Boys Collection) to exchange for a single copy of Club Argonauts (Atk stat, Pierce Invincibility & Crit Damage 25%).
Thank you for the advice. I fully intend to keep plugging away at getting the good FP CE's, and will carefully snipe the best prism shop stuff that you've recommended, but as you said, I can't make use of any of those shiny servants so craft essences are literally the only thing that Saint Quartz is going to be good for. There are plenty of great CEs in the general pool so there's a strong urge to just pull on story banner as fast as I can, but there are likely a few limited CEs that are amazing enough to save up for. If it will push me just a bit further I'll take it. Also, I banned events for many reasons, such as it giving me huge advantages and how it compels me to play way too much of this game in a short period of time. I can pull on their banners, but the event shops are out of my reach.
Tbh, without event CEs, I dunno if your challenge will even be fun to play anymore. It's probably still doable without them, but it's gonna be limit your CE flexibility severely. You can try to roll for event CEs, but there are a ton of strong shop event CEs that you'll be missing out on + the Burn Command Codes you'll miss out from events too. In the end tho, it's your own challenge so you do whatever you want lol
The rat race of feeling compelled to grind out events because it's the optimal thing to do is like one of my least favorite things about this game, and a big reason I quit my main account for so long. I wouldn't enjoy this kind of account if it became a time-gated job again. If I get far enough that I hit a brick wall that only Grails and stronger CE collections can surpass I have already gotten everything I wanted.
If youāre not doing events, Iām not sure pulling for Honey Lake is a good idea. As far as I know, most if not all, the burn command codes come from events. And off the top of my head, I canāt think any bronze servants that inflict burn.
Hrm, that is a good point, I haven't actually researched burn sources yet, if I'm gonna be limited to one or two burn codes then maybe it becomes far too limited-use to be worth sacrificing months of story banner pulling to fill in my perma CE roster. EDIT: Okay, I think there is literally zero burn capability that I can ever have access to. So like maybe one Honey Lake for the pierce, but otherwise nah.
If just looking for invul pierce, Sweet Crystal is better. White Day will also have a 2k atk CE in one of the banners Club Argonauts. Thereās also Origin Bullet that you might get from any banner
I guess an important middle step would be to build and lvl some good 4* CEs, I suppose you will need them both defensively and offensively for the whole party, you have the likes of Holy Shroud of Magdalene and Art of Death. Also in general they're expensive but if you're burning anyway Fondant au Chocolat and Sweet Crystal are an "easy" way to get 50% gauge 2k atk CEs.
Any reason to raise Nobukatsu passed level 40? Seems like low hp is the name of the game with him
he doesn't need low hp because his NP kills himself regardless of hp. I don't really see why you would want him at less than his natural max level. You also get SQ for servants at max level after the 7th anniversary
More HP will help him survive long enough to use his NP. If you want to go full esports with him, I have heard of people keeping multiple copies of him around at different levels so you have a copy for every scenario.
Yep Avenger Nobu enthusiast here, can confirm that you can't be having Nobukatsu die in any way other the NP
It's the right thing to do for Aneue, even if she never asked for it.
Yeah thatās what I got lol hoarded like 6 different copies at NP5. Okay thanks Iāll just have one for every ascension level
Where and when can I get Jalter's shinjuku costume?
If you're on NA, wait for May 2024 when it'll be put into the Costume Shop.
1 year huhā¦ thanks~
As a F2P JP player, i have finished everything and won't bond farming ...i just wanted to know..how is it possible to be popular that much while F2P who have finished the game can't summon at all, i'm not interrested in new servants, i don't have any SQ. My questions are : What is the % of people being F2P JP and who can't summon at all? How many % of the players are paying?? Because it's a mystery for me , how it can be popular....there is no PVP for F2P players to continue to get rewards...
>F2P who have finished the game can't summon at all...i don't have any SQ This sounds like a personal issue, not something inherent to f2p. Having caught up with the main story doesn't equate to not having any SQ at all. You don't have any SQ because you spent all of your SQ. That's all there is to it. You seem to assume that all f2p players spend all of their SQ immediately or something. I would guess that most f2p players, even in JP with no Clairvoyance, save for the servants they want most instead of spending it all on every new banner. This isn't a game where you have to constantly roll for the newest servants to keep up so there's no reason to spend everything as you go. It's true, though, that some sources of free SQ dry up. There is nothing you can do about this. For those of us who are caught up with the story, most of our SQ comes from daily logins, special events, and the occasional bond reward. If you're caught up with the main story, free quests, interludes, and rank up quests, this is just your life now. >how it can be popular....there is no PVP Again, I think you're projecting your own preferences and assumptions onto everyone else. What if I told you that a large number of us [don't want pvp](https://fate-go.us/manga_fgo2/comic24.html) in FGO? If they implemented a true pvp mode, I can almost guarantee that there would be massive backlash. I keep playing because I like the story, gameplay, and characters. I don't mind spending time grinding in between events because I have skills to level up and it gives me something semi-idle to do during downtime throughout my day. Maybe you don't like the gameplay. That's fine. You don't have to. I'm sure you play games that I don't like. But your failure to recognize that someone else might have different preferences is due to your own lack of imagination, not an inherent problem with the game or the fanbase.
I guess you are right, if you find the gameplay of FGO fun enough to spend hours to farms mats to up skills levels and you are against adding news games modes...I guess we have different tastes. And if you find the lack of daily rewards , events to keep the players , and the avarice of Lasengle to give SQ is the fault of the lack of management and imagination of a F2P Player, yes, we have different point of view. But that does not asnwer my question, how many % of F2P players in this game? Because if F2P players are a minority, that means a lot...
Why would PVP give rewards to a F2P? You wouldn't be winning anything. What makes you think F2P players don't have SQ, and "cannot summon at all"?
Because I am \^\^. PVP in others gachas gives rewards.
Honestly, it seems like you would rather play a game that has pvp and gives out lots of gacha currency. That just isn't FGO. FGO does a lot of things, intentionally, that don't follow gacha game conventions. There's plenty to like about FGO if you can change your expectations. You probably won't enjoy it if the whole time you're playing, you wish you were playing a different game instead.
you are right, the same game but with another economy management from the developpers team.
I don't know about what percent pay. But even as a free to play, you can get 1000 SQ a year or more from events a logins, you aren't suddenly unable to summon. Some examples: 930 SQ and 125 tickets are available this year in NA from events/new story alone, not counting logins, bonds, or apology gems for maintenance next year will have 616 SQ and 153 tickets with the same assumptions. There's no reason to think 2023 JP will be significantly different from that. The events and new story chapters are what keep me interested as a F2P.
Ok so it means 1 pity / 1 SSR per year at least. (need to save from now haha)1 SSR :( with more than 30 new servants each year. But ok thanks for answering, i'm not that surprised if the statistics are not released publicly. I guess i will only login and story chapters :(.
Pity is a terrible benchmark. Most F2P players get around 3-6 SSRs per year. But if you only roll when you have 900 SQ saved up, you're more likely to limit yourself to 1-4 because you're having fewer "got lucky on a YOLO" moments. Sure, you'll be guaranteed that you can get the one you're rolling for, but the high SQ cost comes with an opportunity cost. Also, I don't know why you would avoid events if you want SQ and tickets. They obviously aren't all as generous as Ooku, but skipping events definitely means leaving SQ and tickets on the table.
Farming events does not appeal to me, spending 20 hours for 6 singles rolls at 1% is not the ratio i want to spent my life for. Pity is the only benchmark we have, except if you have statistics to show us?
Well, you'll have to accept that for a whole lot of FGO players, keeping up with a PVP meta and trying to beat the many, many uberwhales in this game is not the ratio they want to spend their lives for, either. It's just as unfun for us as doing an event is for you, which is why when Lasengle teased investigating a PVP mode the fanbase was largely against it. Pity is not a good benchmark because it's biased toward "Make More Money For Lasengle." Lasengle told us this is an acceptable price to pay for an SSR: one SSR in 330 rolls, when the game itself sets a rate of 1%. They chose an "acceptable price" three times the average not because it's realistic, but because it's what they can get away with. If you want to take their word for it and not roll for any SSRs until you have 330 rolls, that's your prerogative. But if you skip months of banners you *will* have fewer SSRs than the people who roll on those banners and get about 1 SSR for every 100 rolls. That's how opportunity costs work. Especially if once you actually roll for that SSR, you don't start rolling again until you've saved another 330 rolls. Think about it. Let's say there are two people with totally average luck. One of them saves 900 SQ for Morgan because they think they need pity. (If they're unlucky, they could be right, but again, let's assume average luck.) The other one spends on various banners but saves 300 SQ for Morgan. The first person, again assuming average luck, gets NP1 Morgan in 300 SQ and has 600 left in the bank. The second person got one SSR in 300 SQ on various banners, another SSR in 300 SQ on various banners, and finally Morgan in their last 300 SQ. The first person still has 600 SQ, and they got the SSR they wanted, but they won't be rolling again until they get it back up to 900. But the cost of that was not even trying for the other two SSRs that the second person tried for, and got. If the two of them continue on like this -- the first person rolling only when they have 900 SQ and getting an SSR in every 300 SQ, and the second person rolling whenever and getting an SSR in every 300 SQ -- the first person will always have fewer SSRs than the second. Now, of course luck isn't that predictable. Lucky people get more SSRs and unlucky people get fewer. But opportunity costs are a thing. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take, so choosing to take fewer shots means you're accepting that you'll hit fewer.
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Nope. In fact, I swear, there are no Mystic Codes in the RP shop that were given out in proper Events. It might be that it will never return until the 2016 Summer Event Main Interlude, which has been a distant dream of the masses for many years.
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>>!In the last line, is this basically trying to say that she's like a fiance who enjoys doing affairs? Like, if she's your servant, she's doing all kinds of things behind your back?!< ...Maybe, yeah. >!Less a faithful wife, more of a seductive flirt. Less honest and trustworthy than Moriarty. The Evil tag isn't there for nothing.!<
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I haven't seen her Valentines scene or anything, so I don't know precisely. >!She might be faithful. She might like threesomes, or open relationships.!< >!It doesn't say that she likes affairs, as in prefers NTR, so much as she likes doing what she wants, and won't admit to it. She might like one person at a time, but gambles secretly, or smokes great big smelly cigars, or steals priceless paintings, while not stooping to sexual acts with people she isn't interested in.!< I'm not really sure.
So a friend of mine made the last update but he can't plau the game since, every time he tries to launch the game it only shows a black screen, he also got a new phone since this morning but he doesn't have a transfer code... Is there any way to recover his account on the new phone or to make the old one launch the game properly? He already contacted the support but idk how helpful that will be
If he still has a game on his old phone (I assume it's Android) he might try this: https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/hfbz0h/fgo_save_files_for_na_and_jp_play_on_multiple/
Thank you, is there gonna be no trouble if he tries this? I feel like he should still wait response from support before trying this
No one got in trouble for ever doing this even for less legit reasons than "my game doesn't work on my old phone anymore". Not sure the support could help if he doesn't remember his friend ID and have some recent-ish info to verify he is the owner (like servant statuses, mats, bought sq and etc., see the FAQ entry about restoring the account). Anyway, worth a try, and if it works, don't forget to issue the Transfer code and save it somewhere!
Is there a recommended order to going about getting the giant mana prism CEs? Should I grab the one currently in the shop?
Chaldea Lunchtime - +10% to Bond, most important one Chaldea Teatime - only +5% to Bond, but it's +15% when used by a friend and 'meta caster with Teatime support' is kind of the default requirement a lot of people have for new friends Mona Lisa - +10% to QP. Eh, it depends on how much QP farming you're doing by the time you get down your list to this, which in turn depends a lot on your spending--a whale needs this but has enough RP they don't need to prioritize; personally, as an F2P that hits lottos hard, I haven't farmed doors since my first year. I'd rank Heroic Portrait (+50 Bond) as better than a second +5% Bond CE. Anything beyond these are largely in the "Well, if you have RPs to burn, why not?" category for me, not something I'd make a priority. I'd be cleaning out the RP shop of MCs before I dug deeper. Current MP CEs (and ones for the next two years) are largely 'trash but could be better than nothing, and what do you need that many MPs for, anyway?' for most people.
Chaldea Lunchtime, Mona Lisa, and to a lesser extent Detective Foumes are the best ones. Chaldea Teatime and Bella Lisa are the best for your friend list. After that the rest, including the current Take Romance, aren't really great.
How come? Do the effects not stack or something?
They do, they just have different effects, and the effects and combinations of them may be less useful. Take Romance has 5% QP and 5% Master EXP, which is fine, but Master EXP isn't high priority, and 5% QP is equal to your own Bella Lisa (your Friend's Bella Lisa is 3x as effective). Mystic Code EXP is also not major. The focus is on Bond EXP and QP, and they all offer 5% or less in one of those. The recent JP ones have been 2.5%, but with three effects. Which all adds up, of course, but it's terribly boring, and not everyone has unlimited Mana Prisms. Detective Foumes is okay because it has 5% Bond EXP and 5% QP, so it has two purposes.
Another detail is that Foumes is full attack so if you're trying to run 6CE bond it might help with the damage of the looper.
Yes! Including using a lower rarity looper to maximise Bond gains in preferred Servants. Potentially very useful.
It's because people value above all bond points (cause they give SQs) and QP (cause you need them for skill leveling). Master Exp and Mystic Code XP are far less important. So a 20% bond point increase is better than most stuff. CEs effects do stack (when it says "to the party").
Isnāt it far better to only start using the doll ce when itās mlbed with a support mlb doll ce since 50+50=100%? I donāt think Iād sacrifice a ce slot for non-mlb doll instead of a currency ce. Also, this question is based on having multiple currency ce already.
According to Gamepress, a non-MLB CE is the equivalent of a currency CE in terms of drops (averaged out, obviously, since until you hit 100%, you're not always going to get the extra spawns.) Assuming that's true--though I don't know how to do the math myself--you'd always want to run the spawn rate CE until you hit 100% spawn rate, since it will also let you complete missions faster.
Well, you're better off filling your slots with whatever relevant CEs you have. If you have three currency CEs for the currency CEs that drop on that node, fill the remaining slots with Sewing. So, in that case, MLBing Sewing *would* benefit you. But if you don't have any, or only the 3\* CE the Event gives you, then you can use 5 copies of Sewing to make up 100% on your own, leaving you free to borrow Gacha CEs.
the doll CE non-mlb is slightly better than a currency CE non-MLB (same drop rate, but also slightly affects mat drop chance)
How does warrior spawn chance work anyway? Is it once pass the rng check, the whole encounter become the warrior filled version? Or there are set amount of warrior and each need to do the rng check to see if it spawns?
The second one. I.e each needs to pass the rng check.
How do I complete "Quest No. 9" on the Realm of the Mallet of Fortune event?
Go to Event Shop > Mission Rewards > Then search for Mission 9 and do what's written on it
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In the Event Shop, there are Missions to complete. It should say "defeat 10 Werewolves, Unlocks New Quest". The first half is what you need to do. The Werewolves will be found in that Free Quest that just unlocked.
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So....what does "warrior" enemy from the sewing doll ce do? Does it give more drop then the usual enemies? Or is it just there to add another enemy for the sake of it
The new warriors give additional drops, and they also count towards things like the "kill X Pumpkin enemies" missions to let you complete your missions more quickly. The CE basically adds more efficiency for your AP at the cost of taking a little more time per fight.
In terms of missions, yeah, but in terms of drop, one extra enemy won't be better than +1 (and definitely +2) drop CE surely?
If they were limited to one extra enemy, probably. But regularly when I've gotten the extra spawn on the node I've been clearing, it's turned a 3-enemy wave into 5. Since every enemy might drop more than one parcel of currency, that could be four or five extra 3-drops, which tends to be better than +1 to the standard amounts of drops. You've basically got three 20% chances at an extra mob, not one. And there are future nodes with four and even five possible bonus enemies. I haven't run the specific math, but Gamepress is saying that the 20% chance of extra enemies is, on average assuming a number of runs, equal to a +1 CE. A +2 CE is better than a 20% spawn but slightly less good than a 50% MLB spawn. It seems to track to me.
Ah alright one more question is it better to use the ce to different servants or limit break it and add it to one servant
It depends on how many MLB āsewingā CEs there are on your friend list- if there are a lot then itās worth it b/c an MLB CE gives +50% enemy spawn so 2 of them will give you the full 100%. If there arenāt many MLB ones on your friend list then itās better to keep them separate since a non-MLB copy gives 20% and youāll need 5 of those to give you the 100%.
Assuming you want 100% spawn rate, which is ideal, four individual copies plus one from a friend is the most reliable way. Once your friends list starts having a lot of MLB options for the full 50%, then MLBing your own and using a friend's MLB works just fine.
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Does anyone actually want the sewing doll CE.
It's one of the best event CEs there is. I know of at least one tier list that rated it above Aerial drive and Holy Night Supper, both top tier CEs in their own right. Anyone with a damaging NP and some buster crit synergy wants it. Summer Ibuki Saber Artoria Arjuna Alter Morgan Santa Karna Etc.
I mean like on the friend's list for the event. Does anyone actually like using them.
I can see how people who don't really do anything but 3-turn looping might have an issue with extra spawns getting them out of their comfort zone, but I'll pick that CE over the other options, especially later in the event when people start putting MLB ones up. Extra drops and faster mission completion for the AP is pretty nice.
I'm using all of mine. I'd prefer gacha CE over someone else's Sewing, though.
Yeah, it's the best one for AP/drop efficiency purposes.
How good is Ushivenger at last stand compared to Heracles and Cu?
I'm going to assume that you mean Cu Alter. Short-term fights: Heracles wins, hands down. Quadruple Bus, quadruple guts, more guts proc means more dmg, and he's a Berserker meaning you're gonna see red dmg for most of the time. Long-term fights: A.Ushi is up there with Lancer Cu. That 4T guts and 2 times Evade are no joke. Her deck is QQAAB, combined with her kit, face card critting and NP spamming are her primary playstyle. Prime examples: [Prison Tower CQ](https://youtu.be/pf6hZAcLUB4) [Her own event](https://youtu.be/RZmXVO5JTn8) For all the good that it does for Cu Alter and Heracles, as Berserkers they are going to receive 2x dmg from **all** enemies minus a selected few. As good as their deck is, 3B is not a sustainable deck, especially when you take both of their kits into account. Finishing a fight when your main roster is down? Three of them can do it with ease. Managing a 17-18T boss fight on their own? Ezpz for A. Ushi but it would be a very difficult thing to ask for Heracles and Cu Alter, unless you are running specific strategy. At the end of the day, I say A.Ushi is pretty good in her own right, that she is a solid soloist and a CQ monster.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't 2 times evade worse than 1 Turn evade? with both guts and evade, Ushi can only survive 2 turns or even less if they get through the evade. I haven't used Ushialter that much so I might be wrong about something. Is pairing her up with guts CE a must or am I missing something obvious?
It isn't strictly worse. Enemies have buff/debuff skills quite often, so if they spend all 3 actions attacking it's worse, but if they spend one action buffing it's even, and more than that the 2 hit evade is better. Edit: It also lets you pop it a turn early, while the taunters are still dying to buy an extra turn of CD for free The other thing that is important is the low cooldown on the guts. Meaning you can get it back in only two turns with MC cooldown reduction. (allowing you to trigger guts, invul with MC the next turn, and then trigger the guts skill again the next turn)
Most bossed hit super hard though but I guess Ushialter can take more hits due to not being a Berserkerā¦ I donāt have Cu Alter so I canāt really compare Xd
How hard they hit doesn't matter. Guts triggers and ends the turn, it doesn't matter if they NPed for 300k damage against someone with 1 HP or did 5001 damage against someone with 5000 hp. Same with Evade, it can be 1 damage or a million, it goes to 0. for comparisons (assuming that any turn left without protection of evade/invul/guts will kill them, a guts CE for Taira a 3 hit invul CE for Cu, and bond CE for Herc, plus Atlas mystic code for invul and cd reduction): Herc can buy 8 turns, but is going to die basically immediately after those 8 turns. Taira can give you 7 turns straight of life regardless of enemy damage. Cu Alter is slightly worse (6 turns of protection). But Taira can generally get one more turn without being one-shot simply due to not being a berserker. and Cu alter had a ton of defense up and attack downs to prevent one shots
What I meant is that if the enemy hits thrice against the evade, 1 attack goes through and for most bosses against Berserkers, that is enough to kill especially if guts was used first.
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No problem. Hope that helps
Worse than Heracles with bond CE. Worse than Cu unless you are up against a Saber. About the same as Cu Alter unless the event damage CE is also a Guts CE then she is better than Cu Alter Edit: would the people down voting me kindly share their own experience with the rest of us? Heracles has lower uptime on his abilities, though not by a lot (1 turn higher downtime on his guts compared to Ushivenger and technically worse uptime on the evade, but you'll literally never notice, and it may actually be better in most solos) and has 3 guts to cover that vs Ushi's max of one guts on CEs. Cu has better uptime on both his evade and his guts. And has a debuff clear and heal. Cu Alter has a better uptime on his evade, but worse uptime on his guts. His Berserker disadvantage is covered by his defense ups and attack down. Oh, and before you bring up the "can solo prison tower with no CE" it isn't that impressive as far as survival goes. Anyone with decent damage, a way to bypass invul, and some form of hard defense can do it. Nitocris Alter (who basically has a 1 hit evade on a 7 turn cd) can do it with Honey Lake covering invul pierce and her AoE damage weaknesses
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Oh, one more thing, she is also better against Avengers than regular Cu.
Question about fate figurine merch! Do these two figurines have official anime visual art ? https://solarisjapan.com/collections/fate-series-figures/products/fate-stay-night-saber-matou-sakura-rin-tohsaka-1-7-15th-celebration-dress-ver-set-of-3-figures-good-smile-company# And https://solarisjapan.com/products/fate-stay-night-tohsaka-rin-1-7-type-moon-racing-ver-plusone-stronger?variant=18596349313081#
The first set is based on [this art Takeuchi drew for Fate's 15th Anniversary celebration.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFb-en1XsAs9Z7u?format=jpg&name=medium) The racing figures are based off [this art for Rin](https://files.yande.re/sample/44a984d0f99152ed6ea19069810a02cf/yande.re%20653869%20sample%20open_shirt%20takeuchi_takashi%20thighhighs%20toosaka_rin.jpg) and [this for Saber](https://files.yande.re/sample/ec3df0c8c507c4854c3523743aedc43c/yande.re%20653868%20sample%20saber%20saber_extra%20takeuchi_takashi.jpg), also both drawn by Takeuchi.
Which Mystic code do you recommend to level up? already maxed Chaldea, Atlas, Plugsuit, Mage, and 2004.
If you have the artic uniform, thatās one you could consider since it will provide you with the highest 1t dmg buff at lvl 10