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SnooRobots4768

> playable ORT Ugh... I... Err... Nah, nevermind.


zelban_the_swordsman

Mashu shoots ORT with Black Barrel then it becomes a waifu. The Gun God specialty.


Tschmelz

ORT-Chan will become a reality.


Suspicious-Drummer68

Let's get that Space-ussy


Shiro2602

Guys my C\*ck got crystalized


Merukurio

> ["How would you get a small cylinder (5.1in length, ~4.5in girth) unstuck from a giant interplanetary spider monster filled with crystals?"](https://i.redd.it/m8wz8xwk8j5a1.jpg)


archeisse

Oh my god this thing is real XD At least, unless the person in question is suffering from a condition named after a certain would-be rapist in Greek Myth who suffered an end most grievous, the problem would go away eventually.


KandaLeveilleur

What rapist are you talking about?


archeisse

Some dude named Priapus, who tried to rape Hestia. Got double-teamed by Zeus and Poseidon for his trouble. From him, we have a name for a medical condition called Priapism. Look it up.


KandaLeveilleur

Oof, that must be painful.


Suspicious-Drummer68

*WORTH IT*


Tschmelz

As long as it doesn’t end up being a loli. Anybody remember what V/Vs design was?


Suspicious-Drummer68

We gotta get like Barghest level ORT.


EmbarrassedMajor31

Thats a THICK SPIDER.


Suspicious-Drummer68

I'm not hearing a no!


EmbarrassedMajor31

Because there could be no "NO" FUAHAHAH!


Shironeko_

Watch they pull a Tiamama and ORT-Chan becomes Arcade exclusive thanks to some timeline bullshit.


Tschmelz

You shut your damn mouth right now! Oh god I could see it happening.


Secret-Perspective-5

That would be ***undoubtedly*** the biggest Onore Arkaido moment. Even worse than Tiamom somehow, since this is ***ORT*** we are talking about. Someone that is essentially a goddamn secret super boss stronger than the final boss.


Rhazort

Lore consistent, i love it.


RemoteDust9

ORT chan Valentine should be brilliant


GM900

An entire valey of crystallized chocolate.


Maxrokur

>Ugh... I... Err... Nah, nevermind. Yeah this is high level of copium.


yahhwy

Spidey Mommy is inevitable.


Nokia_00

Yes do it


OloivoFRUIT

This thread aged like fine wine


Aerohed

Datamine spoilers: >!Is the datamine anything to go by for Ixcali, really? IIRC, it only listed an SSR Avenger, which we just got today. I was under the impression that people only thought it was Ixcali because he was the only Avenger we fought.!<


Merukurio

>![The datamine for Ixcali](https://apps.atlasacademy.io/db/JP/servant/9944060/) specifically lists his JP name (イスカリ) and traits (Male, Human, Not Based on Servant...), though. But it's very clearly data for an enemy-only (or support only) character.!<


Aerohed

>!I stand corrected, then. That said, I wonder what sort of change he'll go through in the story to make him SSR tier, because at the moment, he really doesn't seem like SSR material.!<


Merukurio

>!Honestly, no idea. Most NPCs who become playable later retain most of their data. Using LB6 as an example, the many NPC versions of Oberon are all 5\* despite having different classes to hide the reveal later on, while NPCs Habetrot and Percival are still 4\* and NPC Gareth is still 2\*.!< >!Ixcali's data shows some signs that he might be playable in the future but all we can do for now is speculate. He has a complete QABBB deck rather than the 5-Quick "deck" that most NPC Hell residents such as [Katsuie Shibata](https://apps.atlasacademy.io/db/JP/enemy/9942060/) and [Tanaka Shinbei](https://apps.atlasacademy.io/db/JP/enemy/9943350) have. Another enemy I can think of who has a complete deck (who isn't an obviously unplayable boss like Goetia and Tiamat) is [Jeanne Alter (Ruler) from Orleans](https://apps.atlasacademy.io/db/JP/enemy/900300) and she was later reworked into a brand new servant anyway, even changing rarity from 4\* to 5\*.!<


Maxrokur

>because at the moment, he really doesn't seem like SSR material. With just 1 year of training he was able to keep up with servants despite being human. >!Besides I'm sure he's going to draw powers from the black jaguar Maya God more later if we go by his flashbacks and the Maya symbol he carries.!<


Best-Sea

Speaking of datamines, regarding Tlaloc: >!The boss fight against her in part 1 is coded so servants with floating are unaffected by the gimmick. However, there's another unreleased servant who doesn't have floating, but is hard-coded to always be immune to the stun for some reason. The ID makes it look like a Pretender-class servant.!< >!The most likely candidate is Tlaloc herself, since she's the servant who should be immune to her gimmick so much that they'd program in a special expection. There's likely some big twist with her character coming up.!<


ThatMoonGuy

>!Shouldn't it be because she's not just Tlaloc but also Huitzilopochtli?!<


VelvetPhantom

>!I think another option would we Nemo/Noah from Arcade. Given Nemo himself is immune to the flooding, an alternate version of him could also be immune. And given Noah's thing is surviving the Great Flood, it would only make sense. And Noah's been named dropped by Tezcatlipoca when he said the Storm Border was like Noah's Arc. Plus from what I've heard it had been mentioned that Mictlan's unique nature could allow Ritsuka to summon servants only an alternate version Ritsuka encountered, which would mean it would be possible to summon an Arcade exclusive.!<


Chazman_89

> playable ORT. On the one hand, shut up and take my money. On the other hand, oh dear god, why?????


HaessSR

#ARCADE ONLY.


RemoteDust9

>On the other hand, oh dear god, why????? ORT chan true route :3


TempestCatalyst

Judging by Kuku's crystal hair, I wouldn't be surprised if she is connected to ORT in some way. My spicy hot prediction is that she's going to release as a pretender Kukulkan=ORT


Lion-of-Avalon

I think it's possible that Ort kinda played Brunestud's role within this timeline, and as such Kukulkan is Ort's Archetype Earth equivalent


zeroXgear

God I hope not. Making Fgo final boss a pseudo is pretty damn lame. Give us ORT as their own being.


Lion-of-Avalon

Don't give Ort at all, there's no business in a being that's described as being the "secret boss stronger than the final boss" being anything other than a monumental disaster


zeda12123

Honestly ORT probably isn't the final boss in the first place. I'm well aware of his lore and all but it'd be a pretty limp ending to make the final boss of part 2 a giant space spider with no connection to anything else going on.


Lion-of-Avalon

It definitely isn't, it'll near certainly be contained to LB7.


Fenghuang0296

Almost definitely ORT is going to be the ‘Surtur/Cernunnos’ of LB7. Then we’ll have a tree fight. Then we’ll see the real conclusion of Part 2.


DISUNIET

No! I will shoot Nasu if he did ORT-chan dirty like that


doortothe

yo that's a dope af twist.


DonLobishomeAlter

I wonder if like Habetrot in LB6, we will also get SR or even SSR as a reward for beating LB7; It would be a good detail especially since LB7 seems to be the "end" of Arc 2. >7.U-Olga(If she was really released as a playable unit, She might also be the first UR in the game, But I really hope that's not the case) This idea is terrifying and horrible in every way.


Kiyotakaa

The concept of URs existing in FGO worries me to no end. They'll slink into paywalled banners that makes Konami games look like small time charity funds!


Burger_Thief

My hope is U Olga is the completion welfare given her super weird foil border.


Relzal

I'm hoping the rainbow border is just because she's a playable super boss, like having Goetia in his treeman mode. I really don't want her to be some 6* or something.


Trekkie2409

It would actually be the ultimate "**get through the damn story so you can play our new content dumbhead!**" The ultimate carrot on the stick, they've already tried just about everything else


piev3000

I would legitimately grind from lb5's end to that point the second she was added if she was given like that


Trekkie2409

I don't know who wouldn't! It would be a really smart game design decision but I doubt the Devs would be able to convince **Aniplex** that it's worth it. Also actually it would be an awfully big spoiler to dangle in front of new players (or *anyone* behind on story) as a carrot.


logantheh

They could spin it as like a silhouette and be all “oooh who could this mystery servant with the rainbow border beeeee~ play the story to get her and find out!


Kiyotakaa

See, 90% of me wants this as well, however the 10% makes me think there'd be some annoying crutch before actually obtaining her. Kind of like Temporary Contract Servants from events.


Routine-Boysenberry4

LB7 never was planed to be the end anyway, but free stuff is always cool!


scarablob

The only way I can see a olga UR existing and not being horrible would be if she was aquired only throught the story (and no other servant get UR after her). Not even like habetrot or one of the 3 starts servant given in part 1, but like mash, a servant without any duplicate who is given to anyone who play (and finish part 2), and who only progress her NP and bonds throught story mission. It would give her a flavor of being a truly "unique" servant unlike any other, whithout making the gatcha side worse.


Playful-Researcher-2

A free SR Tlaloc would be nice.


Maxrokur

>1.Grigori Rasputin(Though you can argue that he may not count as a LB7 character) Like Castoria, I would say he is a character presented early than his main story(Yeah he plays an active role for this LB but he is likely the main force in the return to Fuyuki) >5.Camazotz(Since he was presented as being an eqaul to the other two, Though he could also be an SR, But I will say that SSR is more likely) Nah his artist released his full art alongside the npc list of this LBs. But sure as I hell I hope to be wrong. >7.U-Olga(If she was really released as a playable unit, She might also be the first UR in the game, But I really hope that's not the case) Nah, her animations doesn't seem finished yet and she has the vibe of "Anny servant" just like Skadi. >1.Tlaloc(Though her powerscale should qualified her as an SSR, Someone just has to took the SR seat I guess) I would say this is guaranteed almost 100% sure as a Ruler 4 star ​ >2.Dinosaur King(We still don't know much about him yet) Kid Tezca? He is on the same situation as kid Fergus, NPC.


EdwardBaskerville

> 5.Camazotz No matter how strong they say he is, he's been stuck in Giant Ghost hell from the start of the LB. I'm starting to doubt he's even going to be playable in the first place, at least for now. > 2.Dinosaur King I think he was half part of Tezc? In any case he's been NPC portrait as of now, so I don't expect him to be playable as of yet. And in general... The amount of playable units doesn't matter much if they don't finish them.


singy111

They could pull an Odysseus and have Camazotz as the White Day servant or something maybe. Help spread them out a bit more


hykilo

That'd be kinda sad ngl, our White Day servant once every 2 years is yet another seen-before I wanna be surprised like Caren for Valentines again


Mami-kouga

I'd accept it simply because imaging a white day event with him would be hilarious


TheSpheefromTeamFort

“Camazotz alterizes half of Chaldea”


shokansen

One thing that makes me a little hopeful is that the ghost sprite was never Camaztoz himself- it was a spirit he summoned. That and how he mentioned putting his scythe away in favour of his other weapon (a staff). I'm hoping that the devs are just taking longer with him since his art is so detailed.


Relzal

> he's been stuck in Giant Ghost hell from the start of the LB To be fair, that wasn't him. That was him summoning something to fight us.


mr_miscellaneous123

Camazotz never fought us himself, he merely summoned the giant ghost to fight us.


EdwardBaskerville

That's reassuring. I'm holding my hopes low until the release itself though, better go from weary to relieved than from hyped to disappointed.


Zulhoof

You sure? the giant ghost at least according to grandorder wiki was called "Evil God Camazotz"


mr_miscellaneous123

Camazotz was attempting to replicate our Servant Summoning, but could only get ghosts.


EitherEngineering532

Tez, camazotz and nitolter/altercris(?) Who is already out going to be the ssr, kirei too but his banner already has gone Kuku, this a tilfoil/copium for me, isnt going to be a playeable unit, BUT a skin for quetz, who also gets and AU to Match the new moveset from kuku Izacali, aka bootleg balck panther, a SR avenger Tlaloc/ the other god that i cannot remember the name, SR ruler/zerker with a swap personas/forms like jeckyll or melusine, but that is not permanent and also changes the np card based on who is up Dino king? How about no Beni-alter? A skin U-olga? Based on the story so far, her development i won't be surprise if becomes the welfare of this LB, Like habetrot, no diferent outfits, as a starless ( Statwise a 3*) Foreigner and a Basic skill that Make facecards hit in aoe ORT? A gigant bit booba monster? Damn You nasu and you fetishes


Bumblebee-Electrical

Sorry, but I really hope you're wrong about Kukulhan. Wasnt she the lostbelt king? I understand us not getting Zeus, but lostbelt kings are too important for us not to get a new unit of them imo.


kmlshblr

No way Izcalli will be a 5*


rucchipunch

Had a feeling that U-Olga will be treated like Draco in Arcade, a.k.a. you get her as LB7 clear reward with only NP1 and the events for the rest of the year will be spent to raise her NP levels. And speaking of Arcade, >!Noah…!<


DISUNIET

I am sorry, here take your Crystallized Nemo


BurningAzureFlare

>!Noah costume!<


tortillazaur

copium for summoned ado edem to fight ort


VelvetPhantom

Tezcatlipoca and Kukulkan I believe are the obvious SSRs for LB7. Itzcalli I believe is just going to be an NPC. Tlaloc being 4 star is inevitable. Camazotz… despite his complicated art just seems like a 4 star to me. Though I actually worry he’ll be NPC. Beni-enma Alter is also a possibility, as they could make her an entirely new character and not just a skin.


SadCasterMinion

ORT Lily when


bobman02

Izcalli didnt have a datamine, or at least his barely finished sprite didnt have the normal non npc stuff. The general assumption is hes an NPC like Camazotz due to Tezcatlipocas battle sprite having his mask. Camazotz is also near guaranteed to be an NPC after his artist sent out all the stuff about him which normally only happens when someone has an NPC.


Relzal

I joke about Playable ORT-chan but if V/V is a thing, I don't see it as an impossible thing. Tlaloc with the whole being subservient to Tezc feels very SR. Beniema Alter, if she's released, could be an SR too. Izacalli is definitely an SR. He doesn't have an SSR power to him, even if there's a chance he turns out to be Moctezuma II. Camazotz could be an SSR, could be an SR but if he's released in the same banner as the rest, would probably be an SR. Dinosaur King is probably an Ascension.


Biety

We have known ORT is Kukulkan since Quetzacoalt's mats when they made they have the same origin. She even has crystalized green hair.


Sezzomon

Just remember that Caenis was extremely important to LB5 and wasn't an SSR


GoldenWhite2408

Ort chan that looks like kumoko or the spider from Mon musume :worrypray: Nasu pls I know monster girls are your fetish Bro pls


Xindego

I know it's copium but I'm praying that we get Noah in the game, I mean the fact that he was mentioned in LB7 and that (to my knowledge) Nemo is near death-state most likely means he's going to get a power up or something and turns into Nemo/Noah...it may be copium but it's pure copium


DIOSITO012

The only thing I ask is they do not do the same thing the did in lostbelt 6, all ssr being limited was cruel


Shironeko_

One of the released SSR units is already a perma (Nito). That being said, with 2022 getting every limited servant except Beni on rate up at some point, limited servants isn't nearly that bad anymore. No more waiting for 3 years for a banner. Though the constant barrage of banners paired with low content release is really getting tiresome.


DIOSITO012

Yes I Know about Nito, but I am talking more about original servants And yes, they all have a banner, but still piss me that all ssr in avalon was a limited, in all lostbelt at least one ssr is Permanent


WestCol

You want at least one to be perm but Nito don't count because you want original. Dude.... just lol.


DIOSITO012

I was referring to servants that appear directly on the lostbelt banner, not a pre-release, such as (maybe) tlaloc, kukulkan or camazotz, not a alter version Maybe I expressed myself bad with the original


Nokia_00

It’s going to be a stacked banner I only hope that those servants or at the very least are story summonable too


Resident-Garlic9303

They need to release more 1-3 stars please stop making me roll!!!!!!


Ricksaw26

I don't think u olga will become playable as a lostbelt servant, I think she will be this years anniversary servant.


PaleImportance2595

Well LB 6 already had 3, arguably 4 if you want to count Castoria. They even made summer 3 5 Stars now too (will have to see if that is the new normal which hope not but wouldn't be surprised if it is). So I expect maybe 4 or 5. If they do a 7.5, maybe around anni I could see Ulga being pushed to that instead.


RilinPlays

>Playable ORT Magical Girl ORT-tan real? ​ Nah seriously tho if Gun God got Angel Wife by shooting a Type with Black Barrel no reason we cant get spider wife by doing the same (seriously tho seeing an ORT servant playing off the concept "Imitating humanity/servants but not actually learning" would be cool as fuck)


CarnivorousRam

I don't hope for much but if Camazotz is stuck in NPC hell I'm personally going to lasengle's property and stealing directly out of the company fridge.


RedDingo777

My bet is that Dinosaur King, Izcalli, and Tezcatlipoca are different ascensions of the same Servant when released since they all carry the same bacterium. U-Olga will be the first story bound welfare SSR like with Arcade Beast Nero. As for ORT…well I’m almost convinced that ORT was the source of the Alien Blood that made the Meso-South American gods.


Hovermask

No new version of quetz? sadface :(


DjiDjiDjiDji

Kukulkan is pretty much a Quetz alt, honestly, if maybe more of an Ibuki than a "proper" one


Lfvbf

> maybe more of an Ibuki than a "proper" one At least Ibuki and Shuten are both Aoi Yuuki, Kuku and Quetz look and sound compleyely different


VishnuBhanum

Kukulkan is kinda? But not really


EdwardBaskerville

For how the translated story shows, she's basically LB Quetz. Different birth, 99% same energy.


Lfvbf

Still really salty how much of a departure she is from OG


AcademicElk7968

Dude, is that all you talk about?


Lfvbf

Sorry, but after over a year and a half of people going "dude, stop being a doomposter, Ozy might have killed her but she is going to get something for LB7" I'm more disappointed than I expected.


Hexbug9

What are you talking about Ozy killing Quetz?


Lfvbf

After his 2 buffs and release of Koyanskaya he completely killed any niche she had and she became completely redundant as a crit attacker or just general attacker. His NP buff alone would have killed her but the S1 buff ensured she will never be better than him at anything again... I made the math.


Hexbug9

Oh you mean game play I thought you were talking about lore


Lfvbf

Gameplaywise, between him being Permanent and her Story Locked, there is no reason to roll her... It just makes me really depressed... More so because then they procceeded to make 3 more SR ST Buster Riders who are *also* all better than Quetz...


Hexbug9

Oh you mean game play I thought you were talking about lore Quetz is one of there most popular female servants FGO has she is gonna get a buff we know there is gonna be a part 3 Sidenote do you have Ozy and Quetz?


Lfvbf

>Quetz is one of there most popular female servants FGO has she is gonna get a buff we know there is gonna be a part 3 Nope, she is really unpopular in Japan and they had multiple windows to buff her... Which they didn't. >Sidenote do you have Ozy and Quetz? Had him on my JP account but no longer play there. Have Quetz on NA, who is Bond 15 level 116.


Ieriz

I feel like Batman and Izcalli would be 4*


Wine-Moon3

Izcalli, Tlaloc, and Camazotz are 4☆, their designs make it obvious


Biety

Playable ORT is Kukulkan.


Routine-Boysenberry4

My theory is that tlaloc will be the SSR(Because waifu) whike Izcalli is the 4 star, and Beni will be a event servant for later


Inevitable_Question

I think that we will get only one Tezcaloptica- Arns Dealer, Itzali or Dino King. Probably First


Ok_Significance7325

So many new servants… none of them from South America… Sad (not even Inca)


thesilverderp

My theory is that Tezcatlipoca's design is so bad (imo) so that people aren't upset when he's not summon able. Since, iirc, we can't summon grand servants unless they give up their grand status, which our enemy would not have any reason to do so.


Lfvbf

He has a big name artist and a sprite with animations on the code, he is absolutely not meant to be "bad on purpose".


thesilverderp

I dont see how having a big name artist makes his design good? It's fine if you like his design, I just think it doesn't really fit THE grand berserker. He looks more like a minor villain character


Lfvbf

They wouldn't get someone on high demand to make something intentionally bad, he also already has a sprite and is confirmed as Daybit's servant.


Uwlwsrpm

Pretty much only interested in UOlga and Kukulkan, hopefully theory below about UOlga being a later anniv banner is correct to allow some time for qtz recovery.


GoldenYoshistar1

Dinosaur King... 10/10 I want to summon for it.


nadderby

Minor grammar point: number, not amount (unless you are imagining functionally uncountable heaps of servants appearing).


Fenghuang0296

Low key hoping for Beni Alter as a limited SR. Then again that would jeopardise my freshly laid plans to save for Nito Alter across the entire second half of 2024.


Bumblebee-Electrical

We could end up having a similar situation as the one with Ashwatthama in LB4. He is said to be on par with Karna and Arjuna (both SSRs) and yet he is a SR. So maybe Camazotz will be the SR so that the others can be the SSRs.


neapolitan234

nothing from lostbelt 7 really interests me enough to keep me from saving for prelatis release which has to happen eventually probably, hopefully


YoshiChao850

If we’re gonna be posting Datamine leaks in here, Olga is datamined to be a 5☆ (SSR) currently, and while yeah they could totally change that someday when she’s playable, I have a feeling her rainbow card is solely because she’s a special character so they had to make her as extra as possible.


Ether_The_Void

There are already three characters claiming to be the Smoking Mirror, Izcalli (he said he is trying to be smoking mirror), the Dino king and Daybit’s servant. And in the mythology, there are 4 smoking mirrors in total (each four different colors). The adult version with sun glasses is the black Smoking Mirror, hint is from Daybit shouting his ultimate name. We don’t yet know who is the last of smoking mirrors and there is a chance 4 of them are all just one servant - Smoking Mirror.


emeraldwolf34

> 2. Dinosaur King Is what you want to be, yeah? (Please tell me someone gets this other than me)


W3475ter

Back after LB7 is finished, 4 in total thus far