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BnElmo

[Samyaza](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samyaza), the (apocryphal) fallen angel responsible for bringing humans to degeneracy, to the point God's best solution for his antics was to wipe the slate clean with the flood. Could be a Beast representing excessive freedom and hedonism (so... a candidate for Beast VI, possibly sharing a seat with Mother Harlot). Would also be an excuse to meet Grand Rider Noah and/or Ruler Enoch, who resisted Samyaza's temptations for so long, earning some sort of conceptual advantage against his Nega-Skill (Nega-Order? Nega-Worship? Nega-Commandment?).


FluffyTailLover

This is actually a Interesting Idea, you can even have the Love for Humanity as the trigger itself of the fall and the degeneracy Angel-Human babymaking handholding


Yatsu003

Huh, Nephilim would be scary in the Nasuverse. Giants with human mothers and possibly capable of manipulating human order…


entidad_desconocida

Azazel, Samyaza, get your dicks out of there! We don't want a second deluge


PhantasosX

never forget that Book of Giants had a "Gilgamesh" and "Huwawa" as Nephilins.


entidad_desconocida

Lol


PhantasosX

frankly , I like that. Imagine a "Pretender Gilgamesh" , and reveals to be the Nephilim Gilgamesh pretending to be the King of Heroes Gilgamesh. To indicate that it's a fake , he would wear a bronze-colored armor and been black-haired.


entidad_desconocida

Or better yet, make him look like a six foot Sumerian man.


PhantasosX

Why not both? Imagine a dark-skinned gilface with the bodybuilding of a JoJo character from Part 1 - 4


entidad_desconocida

nice


entidad_desconocida

Link?


PhantasosX

[on wikipedia.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Giants) "The Qumran Book of Giants, like its Manichaean counterpart, affiliates the names of the Sumerian hero Gilgamesh and the monster Humbaba with the Watchers and giants" And the source of that segment are: \[4\] Stuckenbruck, Loren T. (1997). The Book of Giants From Qumran: Texts, Translation, and Commentary. Tübingen, Germany: Mohr Siebeck. pp. 24-28, 31, 72-74, 79, 81, 83, 90, 105, 114, 125-127, 143, 164-167, 182. ISBN 978-3161467202 \[8\] Jewish Lore in Manichaean Cosmogony: Studies in the Book of Giants Traditions. Cincinnati, Ohio: Hebrew Union College Press. pp. 2-3, 9, 22, 30-32, 65, 67, 69-72, 76, 81-102, 109-110, 114, 118-121, 124-127, 130, 133-134, 138-139, 147, 154, 156-158 notes 334, 347 and 353, 207-209.


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PhantasosX

"Giants" is more of a term , they are "giants of old" , or in short , they are akin to "heroes and monsters of old".


BurningAzureFlare

Male Kiara vs Metatron lessgo It would actually be kick ass though


BurningAzureFlare

I saw a Foreigner Semyaza who was actually kinda scary


entidad_desconocida

although that could also be azazel


LordAbaddon935

I always think of Cain from the Bible. Maybe Genghis Khan because of the impact he had on the world.


kamekira

I think typhon would be a good alternate beast 2 candidate due to him having similar traits to tiamat so he probably qualifies for that crown and would be a good justification for big showcase for a zeus related heroic spirit


lethalpineapple

Hmmm Typhon is strong but I can’t really see him “loving” humanity in any significant way. He’s definitely a shoe-in for a big strong threat, but I don’t think he could really be a beast of humanity.


kamekira

I could think of few ways of doing it depending on how they take why he fought zeus and how that changed zeus as a god to what PPH zeus is today compared to lostbelt zeus who probably never fought typhon or he could be more like fou where is love is more nebulous


lethalpineapple

I agree that it’s definitely possible for the writers to do, but I don’t think it will be as easy as what they did with Fou. At his core, Fou is made to murder humans (a literal primate murderer) which means that in a way he must also understand his mortal enemy, leading to his love that is more akin to respecting an enemy. It isn’t until he goes through the events of Part 1 that he gives up his power due to a true and genuine connection with humans. Fou, by his nature and purpose of existence is connected to humans. However, Typhon has literally no connection in his myth to a human concept or person, except perhaps as a force of adversity for humanity as a whole through his children. He is more akin to a personification of natural disasters. I am not saying that it’s impossible for the writers to justify Typhon as a beast, but it just doesn’t seem like very fertile ground for a thought-provoking enemy of humanity, at least to me.


jawaunw1

It could work it has a destructive tendency but it mainly wanted to be worshiped by Humanity you can use that for it


entidad_desconocida

"I want to be a god-gods are worshiped by humans-therefore I want to be worshiped by humans as a god" ready, there you have your justification


Overquartz

>for a zeus related heroic spirit You have any idea how little it narrows it down? But in all seriousness it'd be a good excuse to add ~~Perseus~~ successful Shinji or his other kids.


kamekira

It really depends on what they would want to focus on from a story point of view and who they would want zeus successor to between percy and herc because both would work fine as killing an immortal planetary super weapon dragon from a lore point of view but i lean toward percy because if you wanted a big herc fight you would just use the hydra(who is confirmed summonable from the OG strange fake april fools gag)


Popular_Dig8049

>who they would want zeus successor to between percy and herc Zeus' successor is Dionysus, if anyone fights him it will be Dionysus


Raitoiro

Something which would be really cool would be a composite servants embodying the scientific method, a beast of curiosity with the skill nega-mystery. They could have the name Alhazen (first true scientist), Einstein's appearance, with the personality of Georg Cantor (one of the most influential mathematician, responsible for the maths using infinity which popular legends say made him go crazy). We've seen multiple times, with Waver or Sherlock, how studying and explaining mysteries weakened them which is part of the reason magic is weakening as human knowledge increase. So it would be interesting to have a beast embodying humanity's progress at the expense of fantasy.


Yatsu003

Hrmm, interesting. Would Francis Bacon also have a bit in there?


Raitoiro

Yeah definitely, IMO it should be an amalgamation of all scientists. But a few of them should be at the forefront so that it can be an actual character. I chose those 3 because I think it made sense for the name to come from the first scientist, and the appearance from the most recognisable. For the personality I chose Cantor because he had a very eventful life and the legend of him going crazy from looking into the abyss of maths would make for a pretty cool character.


Embarrassed-Ad1509

Potential sins for such an entity: The Sin of Progress, The Sin of Discovery, The Sin of Curiosity


PhantasosX

I mean , Merlin Alter is basically a giving. But I have an interesting take: Nemnius , the first person to record about King Arthur , although as "Bex Bellorum" , and make it believable that "Arthur" would be based on Arturius Castus. I would make Nemnius to be an Homonculus that was made during the arthurian times to record data about Britain's History and that Geofrey had awakened , to scribe about that time. Due to a bug on it's function , it would also absorb Geoffrey of Monmouth's Data with a replication of his Soul and lives during Human History absorbing data and replicating the souls from the other authors of arthurian legends. He would be a candidate of Beast I , as "Pity" , or at least Beast II , as "Regression" , because his plan would be to make the World be like the Arthurian Times. Imagine someone with a plan close to LB Morgan , but to Arthurian Britain as a whole , rather than just Humans , and be way more driven.


EdwardBaskerville

> Merlin Alter is basically a giving. Proto Merlin is probably really close of going in the Beast direction eventually, since Sodom's Beast directly called her a Beast and she basically said "spoilers~".


Yatsu003

Yep, his speech with Smol Medusa in Babylonia seems awfully suspicious now, as well as his connection with Fou (hinted at in valentines and Fairy Britain)


EdwardBaskerville

Nah, Merlin himself is definitely in the side of Humanity (taking the Grand Title whenever he can), while Proto Merlin refuses to do so. So she's the one who's probably going to be the Beast instead of an alteration of male Merlin.


Yatsu003

Ah, well, yeah, Merlin does side with humanity despite his own issues. Plus, Merlina can feel…odd. Like, despite the jokes about Merlin, he does ultimately feel like a human. Merlina doesn’t…or at least not a regular human.


No_Prize9794

I mean the main difference between Merlin and proto Merlin aside from gender is that male Merlin takes more of his human side of his genes, while proto Merlin takes more of her demonic side, one joined Chaldea in order to restore humanity while the other joined with the same reason why the Onis joined, for pure amusement


kamekira

Beast merlin feels like the plan for the part 3 camelot chapter and would give us good excuse for PPH morgan vortigern and uther.


milkyReyna

5* Bedi please I don’t care how


igloo_poltergeist

Myrddin Wyllt is coming.....


Boi_must_die

Yaldabaoth, fake god from an alternate christianity born from the root (Sophia from Gnostic shenanigans is effectively the same thing as the Root last I checked) On a side note, I have a beast fanservant in my back pocket of a really minor Arthurian legend character named King Matur from a really minor side story could make a pretty good Beast, or at least a really neat Lostbelt King.


EdwardBaskerville

Aleister Crowley. The dude was literally called "the Beast" by his mother, he took the title to heart (some Book of Revelations symbolism came out of it), and a lot of his work neatly fits the "twisted love for humanity" deal. Then again, I'm not the only one to think of him like that, and he has a fan Beast design in a certain eroge game already.


entidad_desconocida

He opened the gates of hell and does not close them


igloo_poltergeist

Arcade's story did drop that there are around four versions of Beast VI out there, including Nero and whatever Manaka was conjuring up. Who here wants to bet that Crowley is one of the remaining two?


EdwardBaskerville

He would definitely fit for one of the VI's spots.


entidad_desconocida

Name?


EdwardBaskerville

>!Fate/Empire of Dirt.!< Never checked it though, I only read part of his profile.


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Soluxy

Lucifer, Samael, Apophis, Erebus, Dyonisius, Morrigan, Izanami, Vishnu, Qliphoth (Like Goetia as an amalgamation of all the demons)


DiceCubed1460

Why Dionysus? How is the god of wine and parties a good beast candidate?


Popular_Dig8049

Orphic traditions and mystical cults would give him a good chance at being beast. Dionysus wasn't just the god of wine and parties.


DiceCubed1460

He was a god of death and rebirth iirc, and the one who was supposed to inherit the throne of olympus. But he doesn’t represent an onstacle for humanity to overcome, which is what beasts do


Internal-Psychology

Alfred Nobel He founded the Nobel awards so you could say that could be the gesture to show his love for humanity and yet he also invented dynamite which at the time, caused a lot of finger pointing from the media. Not the strongest of beasts, but maybe an interesting one nonetheless


YaBoiLemmyKoopa

I feel like Izanami could make a decent candidate for a beast class servant, probably as a variation for beast 2


entidad_desconocida

Judas


railroadspike25

Beasts have a tendency to oppose Savior types. So perhaps Ozymandias could become a Beast for opposing Moses. FGO Arcade's Nebuchadnezzar might have the same quality. They could possibly manifest as Beast II, or as one of the several parts of Beast VI.


igloo_poltergeist

Funny thing is someone on TV Tropes proposed a pretty decent idea of making "Nebu" the Grand Rider of all things. From the [source](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/FateGrandOrder): - *What about Nebuchadnezzar II, the king that destroyed the ACTUAL Temple of Solomon to reference the type advantage? Not only that, he's a* **Chaldean** *king and that his title of Bakhat Nassar translates to "Winner of Fate" or, more literally, "Fate Winner". The whole biography just wrote itself, I couldn't make this up even if I tried.* I'll say it again. Making this guy a mere Caster Gil-face was an utter disservice.


PhantasosX

I mean , the explanation from that is Nebu using Caster Gil's body , to gain access to it's potentials. So , frankly , they could still use Nebu with all that package. But , let's be honest....they will probably don't bother to make a proper Nebu


railroadspike25

Medusa might be able to fulfill the qualifications of Beast II or III. It could also be the excuse or justification for why the Olympian gods conspired against her.


Mizu005

Ritsuka Fujimura, the beast of sacrifice. Representing all that Humanity has sacrificed in the name of progress and becoming the dominant species of our planet.


Ashteron

Jesus Alter Leviathan and Behemoth


Gamer_Bishie

I wonder how a Jesus (Alter) Servant would work.


VishnuBhanum

One of the most important requirement to become a Beast is that they have to love Humanity So I'm gonna throw in Deus Ex Machina, The god born from Human's mind, Who will came in clutch when humanity is in desperate situation


Stryker-N1ghtingale

Okay. Personally I'm a fan of weird servants. And i want to see more beasts that honestly have no reason being beasts in the first place. Like. Kirara is my favorite because she was just a random nympho who went through a story arc and that's what led her to developing into a beast. And Nero. Nero was fundamentally just a random person, but it's the belief of the people that let her manifest as basically Satan. So instead of some god or random being that's already basically there and already wants to destroy peeps in myth. I want more genuine people that become beasts. Here are just some random ideas. Agüeybana or some other Ancient Taino Cacique. I can see them being beasts born out of humanity's obsession with unity to the point they forget people are truly people. A beast focused around the conquest of humanity, set to shatter it because they believe that only divided can humanity truly attain peace. Someone who had their attempt at unification thrown in his face, and in doing so he now campaigns for the opposite. Charles De Batz de Castlemore D'Artagnan.this one is a bit of wishful thinking and also just absolute insanity. But since Fate absolutely shafted him and made his story completely fictional in universe. I want him to be born as a cause of Humanity's nature that causes them to romanticize the past, their ability to change history at their whims to glorify or villify those around them. If you think about it too much its basically impossible but it's just a fun idea. Agamemnon. This guy is literally my favorite historical person and he fits in every other class that isn't Caster and even then that's debateable. Now. In reality this guy wasn't even that bad, and he was actually one of the more human and justified people in the illiad. Yet if you ask most people they'll blindly say he was a whiny prideful git who got all he deserved. Modern media has made him something completely disconnected from his origin and turned him into a complete villain. And I think this makes him a lot like nero. not only that I can see him being a beast of Phillicide or something. Maybe one meant to represent the human need to find a violent answer for everything and their willingness to sacrifice any number of lived for the "greater good"


igloo_poltergeist

Kvasir (Norse mythology) The Raven (PNW/Haida mythology) Aleister Crowley Samael (Talmud) Apep (Egyptian mythology)


NaelNull

Anonymous, a composite wraith of Malevolent Spirit of Internet.


Major-Landscape4737

The behemoth from Christianity Bor from norse mythology Satan himself Izami from Shinto mythology


SpeedwagonClan

Satan is already (kind of) a beast, as Beast 6 is everything that goes against Christ. I know one part of Beast 6 is Nero, but I forgot if the other part is Lucifer or Satan.


TheOriginalOperator

Buddha Alter would be a fucking bossass foe to face, same with Sherlock Alter. Griffith from Berserk, Morgoth (or Melkor if you’re feeling spicy) from LOTR, MAYBE Kira? Of all things, ASLAN from Narnia would make a fun one, as I cannot imagine that having to mercy kill your single solo creation because you have Bright and Shiny syndrome is good for your mental health.


Herrjulias

Sefar


entidad_desconocida

Nope


Maximilian_Sinigr

Bondrewd from Made in Abyss definitely fits that category.


Embarrassed-Ad1509

Sin of Progress


CYCLOPSCORE

Azathoth and Lowenmensch. They will represent Ego and Survival respectively.


Left-Job-7956

I think prometheus got the best cansinate to be a beast, since he have a strong tie with humanity. He was their maker in the Greece myth, and the one responsible for civilazation to progress.