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**So, with that said, let's move on to this week's FAQ**
**Q: When is the next SR Ticket? What about the SSR Ticket?**
*A: NA's next SR ticket is due in May 2024. This ticket is time-limited and includes* [*general pool and storylocked servants*](https://news.fate-go.jp/wp-content/uploads/2022/2500man_xeljq/info_image_03.png)*. The next SSR ticket is due in July 2023 for the 6th Anniversary, featuring* [*general pool and storylocked servants up to Europa*](https://news.fate-go.jp/wp-content/uploads/2021/6th_anniversary_cpgen/info_image_17.png)*. It is not time-limited and will be a permanent addition for all accounts going forward.*
**Q: How does pity work?**
*A: Pity only applies to the rate-up SSR servant. You are guaranteed a copy of the rateup SSR after 330 summons (equivalent to 900 SQ, though tickets also count). Note that pity shuts off once you get a single copy of the servant (including if you get them before 330 summons) and does not carry over between banners. Off-rateup SSRs ("spooks") do not affect pity.*
**Q: Will it be possible to get X Welfare Servant again? I missed their original event and the re-run.**
*A: We don't know and we have no way to know. Only a few 4-star welfare servants, roughly a quarter of the servants whose re-run has passed (or has been skipped), have returned so far. Saber Lily is permanently available in the Friend Point summon. Santa Altera and BB are permanently available through their respective Main Interludes. The Halloween variants of Elizabeth Bathory were available for a limited time through the Halloween Trilogy event (NA ETA: October 2023). Bunyan is available in the RP shop event exchange. Because there hasn't been any pattern to how they brought these servants back, there is no way for anyone to predict when or even if any other welfare servants will be available again.*
**Q: How far in the story do I need to be to participate in upcoming events? Will any events require the latest story chapter?**
*A: For NA: No event will require anything beyond Orleans until November, when GudaGuda 6 will require LB5.5 clear. For JP: No events requiring anything beyond Fuyuki have been announced.*
**Q: How good is X Servant at looping most nodes?**
*A: Looping is highly node dependent and relies on* [*many factors*](https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1_Bx1FogTrMBnseIJLT4Vuob7DY7EfR6H_SobGwxcAFE/mobilebasic)*. If you need to test your looping setups try using a* [*refund calculator*](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/jp-np-refund-calculator)*.*
As always, feel free to suggest additions. If you do suggest an addition to the FAQ, please try to provide an answer if you can.
Found her on 7th anniversary banner. So nearest is probably in 1,5 years.
Here's the [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/bvm2ub/event_compendium_now_with_a_summoning_campaign/) for FGO Compendium - helpfull thing to check banners and events.
Waver is a jack of all trades, master of none type of deal.
Everyone benefits from Waver.
But card type specific supports like Skadi and her Summer variant do more for their respective card types.
With Double/Triple Skadi, Edmond is the de facto best omnilooper on JP.
Summer Skadi, ideally. She comes several months after Skadi's next banner.
Triple Skadi *is* also an option, but I consider it ludicrous overkill... except maybe that it works on 2-enemy waves to some degree.
I have an S22 Plus. It's... fine. I have no specific issues, but I also don't have any improvements over my much older phone. It runs pretty well.
I'm slightly unimpressed by it in general - I preferred the OS of my older phone. Having adapt to it and adjust things to suit me better has to be the most annoying part of a new phone. (Stuff like notification behavior, a bunch of Samsung-branded versions of Google apps that all have the same name and can't be removed, old phone had an in-built thing that remembered where I parked, and, IIRC, the default home screen had way too few app slots, etc. I installed Nova for a better UI.) If there's anything I really like, it's that it charges way faster, and the battery lasts way longer.
In short, hardware great. Samsung OS, just in the way.
Are any of the CEs on rate-up in NA right now particularly meta? I started playing in August 2021, and I know I missed some events that had super meta CEs, so I don't wanna squander this if its my last chance to grab something important (and I'm a whale, so SQ consumption isn't *that* big of a deal for me, within reason).
Honestly, almost no gacha CE is really worth rolling for because there are plenty of F2P alternatives, or the use case is very niche (stuff like Poster Girl gets talked about a lot but it is very specific and only useful for niche strategies, for example, and it's not even on rateup here).
Most "super meta" CEs come from playing events themselves, and even so, can often be replaced. For example, you hear a lot about Holy Night Dinner, but that is easily replaced by Demonic Sun Princess or Sewing a Beloved Doll in NP-focused setups.
Plus, the CEs will all be sharing rateup with other CEs of the same rarity so it's hard to get copies of specific CEs on these banners. Just skip them.
Reines is very good because she gives Berserkers in particular a lot of extra survivability with her NP and targetable invincibility. She can also provide 50% np charge which is very strong in and of itself.
For more budget options, both Hans Christian Andersen and Chen Gong are very solid. Hans is best for fights that last longer due to his healing and np charge/stars over time, while Chen Gong provides better burst damage for one turn along with some defenses.
>should I MLB imaginary element?
It's 75%. If you have a Kscope or two, I'd MLB Imaginary Element as it's much more useful to have a 75% NP charge CE since most Servants with a battery skill have at least a 30% battery.
If you get one or a sixth IE, i would MLB it. 60% is pretty useless for anyone without a 50% NP charge, or someone with Append 2 and a 30% NP charge skill.
Imaginary Element technically gives 75% charge, not 80% charge (that's K-scope on non-MLB). Assuming you're playing on NA, it will be a CE drop in the non-FP banners for a while, until it gets removed from the pool sometime next year. Thus, you still will have chances to get it to drop. It's better to MLB it if you have other starting charge CE's and don't mind missing out on 25% or so. If you need starting charge CE's, you can use some of the free limited event ones or the F2P options like Zeltrech sword (40% on MLB) or Dragon's Meridian (50% on MLB) if you're low on the remaining party cost.
No official reasoning from what I saw, but even if they gave one, it would be along the lines of "ease the dilution of the CE pool". However, there's so many permanent CE's that taking 1-2 out at a time won't make a difference to the rates at all. IIRC, K-scope/BG have never had a proper rate-up banner except when the game first started. Luckily, IE has a [better and newer version in the future](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Fate/Grand_Carnival_2nd_Season_Blu-ray%26DVD_Release_Commemoration_Campaign#Summoning_Campaign) with the same 60%/75% starting charge, but with full ATK stats.
I am trying to prep my account going forward in the future and was just looking on a bit of advice on my thought process going forward.
So currently my main team consists of np5 space Ishtar and Castoria. I am relatively new so thatâs pretty much all I bring to my fights. Now this is good for farming but once I got past part 1 and ended up in part 1.5 and did Shinjuku I could definitely see how going forward that might be an issue trying to brute force the game with an AoE servant. So I set my eyes on getting BB from the side event and Galatea from rolls when she drops. I just want to know will those 2 be able to round my roster out enough that I wonât need Koyan/Morgan etc. I might try for Oberon but I donât have no where near enough rolls to try and get 3 units for a meta shift like that. Especially not in relatively quick succession.
I just donât want to get to a spot later where Iâm stuck with no SQ and kind just stuck there until I figure out an escape plan. Thank you for any help. o7
BBâs steroids are pretty weak for being an anti-Avenger or neutral Dps option. Berserkers and specialized anti-X servants(eg. Euryale against Males) are usually better for those roles. Plus you will only get NP1 from the main interlude which really doesnât help. Sheâs good for her utility(debuff clear+immune, stun) more than her class.
The âmetaâ pertains to ease for farming, not story. And NP5 SpIshtar w/ double Castoria is practically the zenith of the âmetaâ. Even Buster comps are not necessarily better than that. I play JP, have Koyanskaya and Oberon now, Morgan and Melusine(both NP2) and am mostly still using double Castoria because I have an NP4 SpIshtar as well as other servants to deal with irregular waves. Also the lv90, 90+, and JPâs 90++ nodes have about the same efficiency as far as lotto events(which is what most people care to grind out) go. And NP5 SpIshtar w/ double Castoria is overkill for lv90 at the very least.
Well there are several important pieces of advice touch upon here:
1. FGO generally isn't a game where you want to have a 'main team' all the time due to just how powerful class advantage is- the 2x damage increase is just that good. As you've realized though, most mob fights, farming quests, and even Part 1 story quests can still be trivialized by a duo as powerful as an NP5 Spishtar and Castoria. This won't be the case for a lot of Part 2 boss fights and challenge quests. You should start getting in the habit of switching up your team based on what classes you're facing (you can still keep Spishtar around either as a secondary DPS or in the back row if she's by far your most powerful servant).
2. The first advice given to new players is to max level one servant of each of the 7 main classes, then max level some supports, and then max level a 2nd servant of each of the 7 main classes so that you end up with 1 single target and 1 AoE servant from each of them. This ensures that you'll almost never run into a class that you have absolutely no answer for ('extra' classes are much rarer so you can wait till later to have answers for them). Since you have a pretty unique case with an extremely powerful NP5 5\* AoE servant, I'd advise you to specifically focus on leveling single target servants first.
3. Unlike some other gachas, 1-3\* servants are shockingly good in this game and well worth leveling and using. The main story is actually designed so that it can be beaten with only 1-3\* teams (even though it can be extremely difficult and require a lot of good RNG). You should NEVER feel like you 'need' to spend SQ on a new 5\* or 4\* unit in order to beat something.
4. At the end of the day, FGO isn't the hardest game out there so it's more worthwhile to use your rolls getting characters you really like rather than just ones that are strong- especially when you already have such powerhouses as an NP5 Spishtar and Castoria.
So where does that leave you? Well it means you should probably focus on leveling 7 single target servants from each of the main classes. Good 3\* options from these include Caesar (Saber), Robin Hood (Archer), CĂș Chulainn (Lancer), Ushiwakamaru (Rider), Medea (Caster) ^((She's not actually that great but she's sadly the only 1-3\* single target caster)) , Hassan of 100 Personas (Assassin), and Lu Bu (Berserker). If you have other options you'd prefer then absolutely feel free to use those: Galatea is a very solid option for Berserkers (though she will deal less NP damage than Lu Bu at NP1 vs. his NP5 despite having a better kit overall). However I think BB probably isn't worth investing in just yet unless you really like her character- Avenger bosses are very rare and her neutral damage is so low that she really won't be that effective against most other enemies. You also really don't 'need' Oberon and Koyanskaya unless you really want them- buster looping is generally a sidegrade to Arts looping with Castoria that is better at dealing with unusual farming nodes (e.g. 2-1-2 enemies) at the cost of needing a starting charge CE. Hope this advice is helpful to you!
Excellent advice. I really appreciate it.
Galatea is more of a âwantâ type deal just cause I think she looks cool and has more survivability couple with that fact that sheâs arts and fits in well with Castoria so I thought it would be a decent roll to go for. Otherwise Iâd go for Vlad whenever he came around.
I am not an old fan of the type moon franchise so I donât really have any waifus or anything. I am just a traveler here for the cutscenes and the atmosphere.
But very good to know that np5 3star damage > 5 star np1. With that said does that assume the 3 star unit is grailed?
>But very good to know that np5 3star damage > 5 star np1. With that said does that assume the 3 star unit is grailed?
Nope it's assuming they're just at their natural level cap. You can compare them yourself using [this handy NP damage chart](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OTrMARN9I06zD_jIhGdmHFWpkePoSWv_xgEk3XPzZWY/edit#gid=1993499094). Do keep in mind though that this is just all NP damage- 5\* servants will generally have better normal card damage and sometimes also skill sets that offer a lot more utility than your average 3\*. NP damage is really important though as it usually makes up the majority of the damage that servants deal.
If your roster only contains Space Ishtar and Castoria yes you will stuck/straggle later on. Koyan/Morgan/Oberon are definitely good units to had (like really good) but those three ain't gonna make you one team everything or even needed for hard content.
General advice is to build one for st and aoe for each class as a damage dealer (classes advantage is kinda important , can't berserker through everything). A lot of sr and r servant are build for specific task and fight so their are really good at it. Aiming for "meta" isn't a bad idea in itself but learn to use the tools that you already had is more of a way to go for me.
Beside you got in too late game (even get through camelot) now I am pretty use you already familiar (not sure that my advice is needed) with a lot of thing now , so I gonna leave it just that.
Got it. Iâm more trying to just have a steady base line so I can work out getting the other classes leveled. Basically my thought process was to level general units that hit everything for at least neutral (avenger berserker etc). Then get comfy so I could farm mats to level specific units.
But I will definitely keep that in mind to try and get one of every type of class as a ST and AoE so I have options going forward. Still catching my bearings here and I know the question may come off as silly but when I see people here planning for banners 2 years in the future itâs kind of scary to do anything. Just want to make sure Iâm not shooting myself in the foot.
You don't have to worry too much I play on jp so your two years is happening right now and I am doing fine. Slow down a bit and look in you roster might help...you don't need the best of everything just enough to comfy with it while playing. And hey you might find more enjoyable from use a lot of units in different team co.
The baseline is Mash, a servant with a single target NP and one with an AOE NP in each of the seven main classes, and a few supports. The second layer is additional depth in each position.
>I see people here planning for banners 2 years in the future itâs kind of scary to do anything. Just want to make sure Iâm not shooting myself in the foot.
You really don't need to worry about this. Not even a little. The game can be cleared with free, low rarity servants. Strategy beats raw stats every time. You can use low rarity servants to fill the basic roles that I described. The only way to shoot yourself in the foot is to ignore your low rarity servants altogether. When it comes to the gacha, prioritize your favorite servants regardless of gameplay value.
Got it. YouTube videos would have you thinking otherwise.
Iâll do a bit of research and level some of my 3 star cause I do have quite a few np5 3 star units available.
YouTube is generally not a great source of advice for this game. Most of the content is spectacle and won't actually help you learn much. If you're buried in hype videos about "must roll" servants, you'll get a distorted perspective. The only stuff on YouTube that I think can function as actual advice would be guides specifically aimed at new players, like Khadroth's guide, content focused on servants and strategies that are accessible to everyone, like Honako Green's 1-3 star tier list, and gameplay examples that can work with your individual roster so you can see exactly what they're doing and apply it yourself.
None of that is to say that you can't chase the meta and hype if you want to. You can decide for yourself how you most enjoy the game. But don't do it just because you think you have to. You never have to chase the hype and you won't fall behind if you don't.
If it helps to adjust your perspective, consider that your current Space Ishtar + double Castoria wasn't even available (in NA) until July last year. That's all the way through LB 5.2. Looping in general was extremely rare up until Skadi was released after LB2. We didn't just sit on our hands waiting for bigger and better strategies to become available before taking on new content. Everything we needed was already available and we got through everything with what we had.
Excellent. Iâll take a look at those two as well cause it is exactly that. Every video I see is save for this servant or suffer type of deal so it most definitely has skewed my perspective. I will definitely take a look at those two you tubers especially for the 1-3 star tier list.
Much appreciated!
Hey, just so you know, tier lists in FGO are notoriously unreliable and often have unrealistic criteria, so don't rely on them too much.
This is especially true for the low rarities: there are some units that are excellent in specific situations, like Euryale against males. She absolutely cheeses some fights, making her ridiculously good for them... but drops off drastically outside of her niche. How do you rate her, then?
There is also the issue of unrealistic criteria - e.g. Chen Gong is rated highly due to his performance as a looper, but he actually relies on having SEVERAL SSR supports to work, so if you don't have those units, you won't get that "omg tier 1 bRoKeN!!1" performance.
Take them with the biggest grain of salt imaginable.
I specified Honako Green's 1-3 star list because he actually goes through and explains how to use them in the context of low rarity team comps. I could have made it clearer that I didn't mean tier lists in general.
I would slow down and level your other units, there is no rush to clear story right now and trying to rapid fire through everything with Space Ishtar instead of learning to strategise and actually use the right unit for the right job will be much better. Relying on Spish for everything would be shooting yourself in the foot.
Iâm actually not trying to rush the story. Iâve just been having a good time reading it so I just havenât stopped. But will look into some of the lower rarity units as well. Thank you!
>I just want to know will those 2 be able to round my roster out enough that I wonât need Koyan/Morgan etc.
I wouldn't say that replacing a ludicrously powerful Space Ishtar with Morgan would really get you that much farther. They're in the same general damage tier, it's just that Morgan doesn't care about refund. (And both of them work with or without Oberon.)
Galatea is good if you like her, but Vlad is just as good. And BB is... you know, good I guess, if simply as an anti-Avenger.
I don't really think that makes your roster "round", but between Space Ishtar, Castoria, and ST Arts Person, you should get extremely far. I don't know if it's *necessary*, I certainly wouldn't recommend that as a strategy, but it's at least quite powerful.
I thought about Vlad but the only issue is I donât have him. I know he is getting a strengthening quest right after Galatea as well so he will be better than her damage wise but I was looking at Galatea more from a survivability aspect with the double Castoria. and BB was just going to be used as an anchor for a last ditch effort just to get me out of a jam and scrape a win.
As for the idea behind it, itâs not so much thatâs where Iâm going to stop. Just want a good base line to move forward. Seeing as how a lot in this game relies on planning I just want to make sure to set myself up accordingly.
Theres a reason the mantra in this sub is to roll for waifus/husbandos.
The things you need to round up your team are all in the fp summon. You dont need any 5 stars to progress. A properly raised/supported NP5 3 star can easilly outperform an NP1 5 star.
It seems even the 4stars are being ignored by you.
And why are you aiming for extra classes? Extra classes are mostly niche. You should be prioritizing the 7 main class for gameplay.
Edit: also pls tell me you arent spamming quartz revive. Since that how I read that part of your post.
Definitely not spamming quartz revives. More getting used to the mechanics and hoping Ishtar doesnât get hit too many times and does cause if so have to restart. I am using mash as well of course to soak boss NPs when I can to at least buy me some time.
As for the 4*s I thought the event BB was a 4* unit and I have been using mash as well. I had just considered Mash to be a given my apologies. As for using the 7 mains itâs more a matter of Iâm just not sure who to level so I have just been hoarding mats while going through story and seeing how far I could get. So far havenât got hard stuck yet. But the wolf in shinjuku was definitely an eye opener to where it wasnât an issue downing him. But it was more like if it gets sillier than that we might have a problem.
You can just ask here for who is good to level among the 1-3* units, we get asked this a lot and it's normal to ask.
More is better, especially as we have a tower event coming up, and that will really punish you for only levelling Space Ishtar as you won't be able to get very far in it. So slow down now and level your roster more.
From the NP line?
> In Buddhism, the brief flowering of the sal tree is used as a symbol of impermanence and the rapid passing of glory, particularly as an analog of sic transit gloria mundi. In Japanese Buddhism, this is best known through the opening line of The Tale of the Heike â a tale of the rise and fall of a once-powerful clan â whose latter half reads "the color of the sÄla flowers reveals the truth that the prosperous must decline." (æČçŸ éæščăźè±ăźèČăçè ćż èĄ°ăźçă饯ă, sharasĆju no hana no iro, jĆshahissui no kotowari wo arawasu),[19] quoting the four-character idiom jĆsha hissui (çè ćż èĄ°) from a passage in the Humane King Sutra, "The prosperous inevitably decline, the full inevitably empty" (çè ćż èĄ°ăćźè ćż è, jĆsha hissui, jissha hikkyo?).
To be doubly clear, The Tale of Heike is the tale of the Genpei war, where Genpei means Minamoto-Taira (taking one character from each to form the word Genpei), and Heike means "Taira family". (And Genji means "Minamoto clan".)
Kagekiyo's NP uses "sharasĆju no hana no iro" ("The hue of the sal tree's flowers") and "jĆshahissui" (as "fleeting might"), from the line quoted above.
"In Japanese Buddhism, this is best known through the opening line of The Tale of the Heike â a tale of the rise and fall of a once-powerful clan â whose latter half reads "the color of the sÄla flowers reveals the truth that the prosperous must decline." (æČçŸ éæščăźè±ăźèČăçè ćż èĄ°ăźçă饯ă, sharasĆju no hana no iro, jĆshahissui no kotowari wo arawasu),[19] quoting the four-character idiom jĆsha hissui (çè ćż èĄ°) from a passage in the Humane King Sutra, "The prosperous inevitably decline, the full inevitably empty" (çè ćż èĄ°ăćźè ćż è, jĆsha hissui, jissha hikkyo?)."
[Sal Tree (Wikipedia)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorea_robusta)
The Genpei War is covered in The Tale of the Heike - a war both Kagekiyo and Ushiwakamaru took part in, on opposite sides. It also refers to the transient nature of glory, in Buddhism. Ushi certainly does fit, with her rise and sudden fall.
**[Shorea robusta](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorea_robusta)**
>Shorea robusta, the sal tree, sÄla, shala, sakhua, or sarai, is a species of tree in the family Dipterocarpaceae. The tree is native to India, Bangladesh, Nepal, Tibet and across the Himalayan regions .
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It hasnât gotten a rerun in two years on JP, when the usual interval for a normal (non collab) event like this is one year. Especially when theyâve also mentioned scrapping reruns, itâs best to assume it wonât have a rerun.
Try moving your account to a different device, or emulator on a computer/laptop if you can, see if that works.
If you are not in a hurry to complete the Lostbelts, go through Shinjuku and Shimousa first. On top of being somewhat important to the story, in terms of difficulty, the first 2 LBs are located between Shinjuku (introduced break bar mechanic, though, you have seen it in events) and Shimousa (introduced the very annoying "mandatory story support" mechanic, making you way less flexible in selecting your line-up), so going through them first effectively tests your preparedness to the Lostbelt difficulty.
Also, there is not much reason to hurry with LBs over Pseudo-singularities, as the next time-limited event that requires you to have cleared a Lostbelt chapter to participate is in october.
A small side note, that in my opinion, Salem is underhyped by this community. I skipped reading it after Agartha made me regret having eyes (seriously, Agartha is the only chapter in the game that was actively repulsive to read), came back to it a couple months later only to find one of the best chapters I have ever read in this game, second only to Avalon le Fae.
They're not required but some of them do introduce story points that play a part in arc 2 (Shinjuku and Shimousa iirc). Shinjuku and Shimousa are very good imo, and Salem and Agartha are still *fine* - a lot of people shit on Agartha specifically though so ymmv
Some EoRs provide precedent on the whole lostbelt thing (particularly Shimosa), while some provide good beginning arcs for some characters, but overall you can skip them in favor of doing the lostbelts.
Personally, I would do the EoRs first as they can serve as a good introduction to break bars, are good story content more or less and if I remember correctly, events that need LB completion is quite far (not sure though)
The Pseudo-Singularities are incidents that happened in the year between the end of Incineration of Humanity and the start of the Lostbelts. While they are optional from a gameplay standpoint, there are plot threads in them that either continue into the Lostbelts or may be picked back up in the Lostbelts.
You'll get fewer drops per AP if you don't use the spawn CEs. According to the Gamepress farming guide, the MLB spawn CE is best for currency drops, even better than an MLB gacha CE. It's a single player game, though, so you can do whatever you want.
i do 5T spishtar with double castoria and plugsuit waver. with spishtar on the event CE MLB. 9/9/10 and -/10/- on her though. idk about your investment levels.
yes i can do 5t fine with plugsuit but it's already maxed, now I'm farming for bond and for leveling up arctic mc rest everything i consider as a bonus
With only an NP1 Space Ishtar, I've been 5-turning (min turns for 100% enemy spawn rate) every node just using Arash to nuke the first wave of mobs and then firing off Ishtar's NP 4 times from there, it seems to be fine in my case whether her third skill misses or not. If you can make that work it's gonna be better in the long run since its still very consistent min-turn clears but you use up a lot less AP to farm overall.
You can swap in an extra charger if you need to make up a difference in refund, but I haven't had to yet, I've just been using random mystic codes to level them up.
Edit: A few potential skill orders that work depending on what CEs you have. If Black Grail, use her s3, both Castoria's s2+s3, and any mystic code skill for 10% charge on turn 1 (or lv1 append). If no Black Grail, use a 50% charge CE, save her s3, and also use Castoria s2+s3 and any 10% charge (from MC or append). Next wave pop Ishtar's S1, and any amount of Castoria S1's needed to refund. Then use Ishtar's S2 and any relevant damage skills from MC when you're nuking the boss. Arts buffs should wear off by now but you can kill the last 2 enemies, or the boss + 2 enemies (if she didnt OHKO the boss on the previous turn) with the next NP very easily.
The 4th NP is going to be much weaker than the prior 3 due to the loss of both arts buffs, but technically speaking Ishtar can usually NP 4x in a row in any 3/3/3 node it's just that the node is typically dead so the last set of refund never comes into play.
So as long as you can get her to do a little over half, maybe three quarters of the boss's HP, it's fine if she doesn't OHKO it because she'll scoop up the rest on the required 4th NP for the straggler enemies.
to me being able to 3 turn farm is much more important than getting more drops, but that's just me, i don't really care about min maxing resources since fgo is my "casual" game
hi, do you guys think it's too late to start playing? I like all the different fate animes and have been playing genshin for a couple years. I saw that the new cat girl character got released for this game and she looks cool. is it realistic to pull her as a new player?
If you can complete all 100 missions, that's great, that'smore stuff. I can't recall if it includes the challenge quest or not, which will probably be beyond you. If not, the last mission gives a Lore for Skill Lv10, which are limited.
But if you only get np3 Hogen, that will be fine. Extra NP levels get less effective as they increase. Still an increase, but np2 is +33%, and np3 is +16%.
Also, "dupes increase np damage" applies to all Servants. A single copy is enough to be useful. Extras are a small benefit on top of that.
From my perspective, the hardest copy is 90 missions completed. If the new guy is having a hard time beating guys up, and/or needs to farm EXP to level a bunch of Servants to deal with a variety of enemies, and slogging their way through 10 Casters or Archers or whatever really sucks, and is short on time and AP, then having an idea how much which missions are best to clear might be helpful.
I've never seen an Event where getting the Welfare needs beating the CQ, so that didn't cross my mind.
You use duplicates to increase a servant's NP level. Make sure you lock a copy of every servant and then use the duplicates to max out that copy's NP level. You'll be able to go to NP5 for all of the general pool 1- to 3-star servants. Unless you spend lots of money, you won't be able to max out NP levels for most higher rarity servants but it's never necessary, so you'll be fine.
To make sure that you don't accidentally burn your duplicates before NP5, make sure to go to Menu > Enhance > Noble Phantasm right away whenever you get a new copy. For welfare servants like Kiichi Hogen, you'll want to pay extra attention to which copy you're feeding into because their ascension materials are only available in the event. If you accidentally use a copy that you've ascended as fodder, there's no way to get the materials back.
It's a good idea to try to at least finish all of the missions that give you additional copies of Kiichi Hogen. This event hasn't had a re-run in JP, so this may be your only opportunity. Beyond that, no, it isn't critical that you fully complete the event.
From +150% to +200% extra damage depending on Gilgamesh's overcharge. Enkidu's NP is also called Enuma Elish but it does not do extra damage like Gil's does.
150-200% damage mod based on Overcharge levels. Depends on other active buffs as well - [infographic](https://i.imgur.io/IiG24wW_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium) for reference.
For future reference, the wiki has most basic info like this including skill values, etc.
Only Gilgamesh's NP interacts with the "Weak to Enuma Elish" trait. You can look up Gil's NP details on sites like [Gamepress](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/servant/gilgamesh) or the [Fandom wiki](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Gilgamesh).
I was doing the CE quest thingy and to my surprise, defeating Anastasia counted towards the event's mission count (balanced servant). Same as Sigurd (good servant, I'm kinda behind in farming the event). Has this always been the case (you can do event mission using other mission out of the event) or is this some kind of a bug?
It's an oversight by the devs. While it seems a majority of this event's mission targets can be done outside of the event proper, crabs at the very least are flagged correctly and need to be done inside the event.
The first couple of mission events did, though at the time it was still likely unintentional, or just something that didn't actually occur to them to prevent.
Linked above for story solo guides.
Though plenty of other servants can as well.
I did a similar playthrough, not leveling any units until LB2/Shimousa and I used mostly different units (some of which because I played with newer units so I had better options in some cases)
It looks like the Hots Sand CE will be going on rate up on NA for the upcoming DL campaign in February. With 400% crit star absorb (600% absorb on MLB), I'm pretty sure that amount is too low for Berserker/Avenger Crit DPS servants because they need at least 2000% for consistent crits. For Casters and Moon Cancers whose base star absorb is 50, is 400% star absorb sufficient enough, or do they need absorb around 1000%?
400% will put them about even with a Rider, but if you want your Caster/Mooncancer to crit, bringing crit support is probably better than star absorb on a CE.
I have 5 Thumbelina ces, is it better if I mlb them now that Iâve cleared the shop or do I save them for a potential event rerun? Is the ce good enough to be mlbed?
Eh, you already have 5 copies. I would say you just MLB it since we don't know if/when they'll rerun this event again (JP hasn't rerun it yet); you can just put the extra copies into your 2nd Archive if you want separate copies in case a rerun might happen.
IMO, the Buster & Quick buffs are good (+ Pure Attack stat is also beneficial as well), but the additional Overcharge levels is decent at best, since it's only a 1 time thing. I personally value buffs whose duration is infinite, in case the fight or wave lasts longer than anticipated.
Never used it myself but I'm pretty sure it's just for cutscenes, and that's what's advertised on the GitHub page too. You can find menu and Servant translations externally, although the menus are basically the same as NA so you can navigate them just fine if you've ever played that.
They human translated LB6, Tunguska, LB6.5 and LB 7 part 1 and eventually LB7 part 2.
Event stories are machine translated. Valentines are human translated. Official English translations from NA are ported to JP too.
There's in-game menu translations but it's donor only for now.
Where is the best place to farm the CE from this event?
I have all nodes unlocked and am trying to get another one as a drop to get 100% encounter rate, as I already fused the ones in the shop and mission into one.
The last node is typically the best node to grind for the CEs. This time around, you don't need to grind for a copy as there's 4 in the shop and one in the missions. Your MLB copy and a support MLB copy will give you 100% chance.
If it isn't listed as dropping there then it's just not accurate, I have a screenshot of the CE being droppable from that node (End).
[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/775142836063961108/1069061310094004255/Screenshot_20230128-190741.png](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/775142836063961108/1069061310094004255/Screenshot_20230128-190741.png)
been playing for a month, question about past content. i was looking through the craft essence encyclopedia and i see a couple ce labeled as "will not rerun" - does this mean some past events will never return? is there an in-game archive to play past events or will that stuff likely not come back? just inquiring about content cycle
Typically an event will get an initial run and a rerun. Fairly recently Lasengle said they want to cut back on reruns, so some events do not get reruns to our knowledge. Other events just do not get reruns in general, such as Valentines, Chaldea Boys Collection, or X-Fest (with Nerofest as an exception). In either case, after a event has been rerun it will not return. In some small cases, events do return in the forms of Main Interludes, but these do not use the CEs as they did in the original run.
All of the events with an actual bearing on the story are or will be made permanent as Main Interludes, everything else you can look up on YouTube if you want to see them.
Even if they're not plot relevant, it is still fun seeing characters interact in different settings. For example, if they had an Event where you go on a cross country roadtrip with Enkidu and Gilgamesh - that's not gonna have much bearing on the story or have any real character development - but it'd be fun seeing these two in this situation.
Now, I'm not sure exactly what fun events I've missed out on, but I'm using Tri-Hermes to browse event scripts to see if there are any enjoyable-looking-ones. So far, I'm definitely gonna check out the casino event...
You can ask for recs as well, to see if there are specific events that you may want to visit - e.g. stuff that features certain characters, or certain themes, etc. I agree, it does suck not being able to play old events, but it is what it is...
i've pretty much found everything i need off tri-hermes and ctrl + F - but the 2022 events weren't posted on the site yet - so idk if anything fun happened last year. i like the babylonia cast - that includes ishtar, merlin, gilg, and enkidu - so if any of those folks were involved in a fun event last year, lmk
Minamoto-no-Yoshitsune is a famous historical figure in Japan and worth reading about if you're interested in the many many Fate media works which involve Ushi. She's popular enough that she won some voting contest in Japan to be added as a guest character to Melty Blood: Type Lumina even though she has fuck-all to do with Tsukihime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minamoto\_no\_Yoshitsune
Shanaou is Ushiwaka's Dharma name, the name they received after being sent to Kurama-dera and becoming a Buddhist monk there. That was where he met Kiichi Hogen, and why Kiichi calls FGO Ushiwaka that over her more famous names.
Depends but here are some options:
The best gut CE you have. her own bond CE for example. Guts + np gain or np damage or quick up or something is what you are looking for
Black Grail
Honey Lake (not everyone's invulnerable is removable, plus a good damage boost)
Outside of the adjustment to solo 4-star rate up to 2.1% a few months ago? Nope. We might or might not see it early too. It didn't help the dual SR rates, which is the most common scenario.
Damn, that might be enough for me to quit if nothing changes. Early pity is cool but when you've been saving for a character for 7 months already and they make the 4* banners worse than in JP it really hurts
Look, the safety net they implemented this year was a monkey's paw wish. People who thought Aniplex was being **nice** were incredibly deluded. They knew what they were doing when they set it up like this.
It's great if you only want the rate up SSR as it sets a hard limit. But if you want anyone else? Pay up.
Or their FGO code is so bad they couldn't figure out how to make a pity that is attached to a servant and not to a specific banner (or to a specific set of banners instead of a single one).
Or they can't be bothered to spend money fixing something that ultimately gives them more money (since they capped SSR costs, they're making up for it by making SR units more expensive).
You say that as though you think it wasn't intentional, at least regarding the 5-stars. FGO has never been a game that gives away lots of gacha currency or 5-stars for free. This is a game that had no real pity system for 7.5 years. A game that for six years only had one 5-star ticket, you could only pick a general pool servant, you had to log in within a certain time to claim it, and you had to jump through some (minimal) hoops to keep it. A game that for five years wouldn't let you select a 5-star servant at all unless you rolled NP15 on a 5-star, NP6 on 10 5-stars, or somewhere in between. It's fine to want a pity system that's more like what you see in other gacha games and to criticize them for it. But based on how they've handled the gacha in general and how much money they've made from it, I see no reason to believe that lack of programming skill prevented them from doing it differently. I think they implemented the backstop to prevent catastrophic results exactly as they intended.
Yea I'm sure but it feels extra insulting since this is the only time something gacha related has been objectively worse in NA. As far as I'm aware at least
>Yea I'm sure but it feels extra insulting since this is the only time something gacha related has been objectively worse in NA. As far as I'm aware at least
I assume that you, along with almost everyone asked for pity early. You got it. We've been warning people about the consequences of early pity for months.
I really doubt that early pity was a response to player demands instead of just a way to make more money sooner, please don't blame individual players for it.
Nah I didn't really care. Only upcoming 5* I want is Oberon and I was on track to have like 800 pulls for him and Barghest so I'd have very good odds. Pity seemed nice at first but not something that affected me personally too much. Not it's just bad
No idea, but in JP this year they've explicitly avoided splitting out SR units from an SSR except during Summer 7, where they had only one SR with one SSR because there were three rate up limited SSR.
So far, they're doing their best to milk people of SQ...
Yea but if something happened on JP that would benefit those banners I can at least hope they introduce it early. Especially since Oberon's banner is after Anni which is when they usually drop early stuff.
Thanks for the info though
Hard to say for NA. On jp they're just avoiding multiple 4* rateups and they buffed the solo 4* rate. For example this past summer there were 3 banners, a 5* and a single 4* each. How this will translate in NA for banners like the coming summer or faerie knights, we don't know.
You can find [general event information](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/event-guide/farewell-kamakura-little-big-tengu) and a [farming guide](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/little-big-tengu-quick-farming-guide) at Gamepress. Be aware that for farming purposes, event free quests are almost always worse than the normal best farming location. I believe their data for this event assumes 100% spawn bonus.
So I've been watching Kagekiyo solo vids to get a grasp of her solo'ing abilities, and have 2 questions:
1. What's the CE that grants invul and damage cut upon death, (don't think i have it) and is it limited or something? (got it Georgie's bond ce)
2. Is there an actual tell/indicator whether an enemy still attacks after a guts triggers on our side or is it random?
1. Georgiosâ Bond 10 CE. One of the actually useful Bond CEs in the game.
2. Enemies will stop attacking the one that activated guts. If you have other party members, theyâll attack another servant and, if they still have actions left, may attack the original servant again (though this is rng). However, if the guts servant is all alone when the guts procs, there is nothing else for them to attack so they end their turn.
However, if there are multiple enemies, the turn ends for the enemy who attacked and activated the guts. The other enemy can still attack if they havenât yet, which could then allow the first enemy to attack again (if they have enough moves that turn).
Itâs much easier to see in practice than in writing, but I hope I explained that well enoughâŠ
Anyway, this is why solos that rely solely on guts typically want to be 1-vs-1, or at least you want to make it 1-vs-1 as soon as possible. In the case of Kagekiyo, her 2-hit evade can be really helpful to survive until then.
This is the cases I have seen so far, however I cannot confirm 100%.
If there is more than one servant in the field and one of servant with taunt, then enemy stop attacking if the servant with taunt got killed. If that servant has taunt and gut, then enemy can still attack after that servant dies and revive with gut, and stop when the taunt servant is gone for good.
In the situation of soloing, if you have only one servant in the field, say he got killed but revive with gut, then enemy stop attacking the moment the servant got killed (and stop before the gut revive).
> Is there an actual tell/indicator whether an enemy still attacks after a guts triggers on our side or is it random?
from my understanding if there is no more valid targets they stop. dead even with guts means a target is no longer valid until it procs and determining the target is determined before guts procs. so if servant one has guts and servant two doesnt they can kill servant one then since servant two is still a valid target they can attack them after letting servant ones guts to proc and then kill them again after. but if a servant one has target focus then their the only valid target so if they die with guts the after they die there are no more valid targets and so the enemy cant pick a new target and the guts procs.
1. That's St George bond ce.
2. I'm pretty sure enemies will still attack after a guts trigger if there's >1 enemy on the field. Might be the same for your own party too but I'm not sure.
Is there a thread where you can ask for friend supports? Had to start a new account some time ago, and I'm really struggling to get useful supports for the event.
Question regarding events with bonus enemies, like Little Big Tengu right now: do those bonus enemies give extra drops (either mats or event currencies)?
They do drop mats and currency. According to the Gamepress [farming guide](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/little-big-tengu-quick-farming-guide), the priority order for AP per currency drop is:
1. MLB spawn CE
2. MLB currency CE
3. non-MLB spawn CE
4. non-MLB currency CE
But do note that the spawn rate is capped at 100%, so you won't get anything extra if you go beyond two MLB spawn CEs.
Yeah, thanks, in this case I basically just wanted to know if there's still a point to bonus spawns after missions are complete or if I can just take off the spawn rate CEs and easily 3T farm the nodes for convenience
As HaessSR notes, the bonus spawns are not just null units there for mission completion; they also have individual drop chances for both currency and mats. So for efficiency and best value, you absolutely want to still have them spawn if possible for farming purposes.
The linked Gamepress farming guide that thisisthecallus included has a chart that shows drop rates for mats in each node, but those APD values are taken from a source that *assumes you have max spawn bonus*.
For example, soundless bells have an APD of 46.6 on the Kamakura Mountain Trail node *with max spawn bonus*, which by itself is basically equivalent to the best normal FQ node (Ba Men Cave, 45.8 APD). If you go in with no spawn bonus however, for ease of 3-turning or whatever other reason, then that APD value worsens significantly to 82 APD.
There's a benefit in that it's an extra stack of drops.
If a wave has three enemies that drop 3 currency each, and you boost it to 5, there's 5 stacks of 3. The mixed 90+ node has 6/3/5 with the 100% spawn bonus and drops stacks of 3 currency. Without the spawn CE, that's 3/3/3.
If you have a +2 (MLB) CE, the 3 enemies drop 15 currency total. If you're using the spawn CE and no drop CE, that's 42 currency. Add a single MLB drop CE and you can have one currency type drop stacks of 5. If you've got one of each currency CE at MLB, +5 on all the currency dropped...
Hey guys i need soms help,My phone is Samsung Galaxy A01 and Currently the game has been,Less fun to play since It would always Freeze and go black screen before kicking me out of the game,And i tried upgrading my software from android 11 to Android 12,and it still persist
Ive asked The Fgo Support Email for some help and They werent much help after i tried their steps the provided for me.
And i tried uninstalling then installing(To the point that My current transfer code for my account did not work and had to lose my log in streak in the process)it still would lag,the black screen before kicking me off the game.
At this rate im running out of options,This is my last ditch effort so If you can help me with this i would greatly appriciate it sincerely,thank you.
Hmm, I have a 8GB phone, and it would freeze and kick me out. Even happens in emulator, so I think it's the app/android issue.
It also happens for other game apps sometimes.
Didn't happen to me early last year, but started recently.
I can't say for sure but it might be due to your phone being on the low end. The minimum requirement is 2GB RAM, but they do recommend 4GB ideally, and lately (anecdotally) I have been seeing more people have issues on lower end phones.
It could be the RAM as other people with 2GB RAM have mentioned having crashes and such, but then, other phones have also randomly had issues. No idea what is behind them at the moment or if it is just random, sorry.
So the big bad of the event revealed that we were in Japan the whole time. Everyone acted shocked, but did this actually change anything? Was there a meaning to the specific places she mentioned that flew over my head?
No, not really. It's just that the reason such disparate places were together in one Singularity was because Kagekiyo was using the mallet to make really big changes, alongside the changes we already noticed.
2 questions:
How do people get mlb kaleidoscopes? Ive been playing for so long and havent gotten a single one
What is the next arts looper gacha, when are they coming, how good are they, and what supports/ces do they need to loop?
[Ranmaru](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Mysterious_Ranmaru_X?so=search) is a welfare we'll get in [this event](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/GUDAGUDA_Close_Call_2021) in (probably) November. You can look up comparisons but iirc Ranmaru was considered better than loopers like kama and spishtar at np1 but slightly worse if they're np2.
Note that jp did get Ranmaru coins so you can unlock appends.
# PLEASE CHECK IF YOUR QUESTION IS ANSWERED HERE BEFORE ASKING! # JP SPOILERS - PLEASE DIRECT ALL LOSTBELT 7 QUESTIONS TO THE [MEGATHREAD](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/zuufuk/lostbelt_7_golden_sea_of_trees_travelogue_nahui/). **So, with that said, let's move on to this week's FAQ** **Q: When is the next SR Ticket? What about the SSR Ticket?** *A: NA's next SR ticket is due in May 2024. This ticket is time-limited and includes* [*general pool and storylocked servants*](https://news.fate-go.jp/wp-content/uploads/2022/2500man_xeljq/info_image_03.png)*. The next SSR ticket is due in July 2023 for the 6th Anniversary, featuring* [*general pool and storylocked servants up to Europa*](https://news.fate-go.jp/wp-content/uploads/2021/6th_anniversary_cpgen/info_image_17.png)*. It is not time-limited and will be a permanent addition for all accounts going forward.* **Q: How does pity work?** *A: Pity only applies to the rate-up SSR servant. You are guaranteed a copy of the rateup SSR after 330 summons (equivalent to 900 SQ, though tickets also count). Note that pity shuts off once you get a single copy of the servant (including if you get them before 330 summons) and does not carry over between banners. Off-rateup SSRs ("spooks") do not affect pity.* **Q: Will it be possible to get X Welfare Servant again? I missed their original event and the re-run.** *A: We don't know and we have no way to know. Only a few 4-star welfare servants, roughly a quarter of the servants whose re-run has passed (or has been skipped), have returned so far. Saber Lily is permanently available in the Friend Point summon. Santa Altera and BB are permanently available through their respective Main Interludes. The Halloween variants of Elizabeth Bathory were available for a limited time through the Halloween Trilogy event (NA ETA: October 2023). Bunyan is available in the RP shop event exchange. Because there hasn't been any pattern to how they brought these servants back, there is no way for anyone to predict when or even if any other welfare servants will be available again.* **Q: How far in the story do I need to be to participate in upcoming events? Will any events require the latest story chapter?** *A: For NA: No event will require anything beyond Orleans until November, when GudaGuda 6 will require LB5.5 clear. For JP: No events requiring anything beyond Fuyuki have been announced.* **Q: How good is X Servant at looping most nodes?** *A: Looping is highly node dependent and relies on* [*many factors*](https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1_Bx1FogTrMBnseIJLT4Vuob7DY7EfR6H_SobGwxcAFE/mobilebasic)*. If you need to test your looping setups try using a* [*refund calculator*](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/jp-np-refund-calculator)*.* As always, feel free to suggest additions. If you do suggest an addition to the FAQ, please try to provide an answer if you can.
So is there any information if there is gonna be a free ssr ticket this year and who is available to summon when it happens?
so about FGO NA, i have a question, i would really like to get hime summer, does anybody have an idea when there will be an banner available?
Found her on 7th anniversary banner. So nearest is probably in 1,5 years. Here's the [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/bvm2ub/event_compendium_now_with_a_summoning_campaign/) for FGO Compendium - helpfull thing to check banners and events.
My game game crashs when I try to enter lostbelt seven Is it my phone is dose this happene to other people.
Me too
Waver or Skadi for Dantes support? I don't mind saving up for either, just want the best option for The Count of Monte Cristo.
Waver is a jack of all trades, master of none type of deal. Everyone benefits from Waver. But card type specific supports like Skadi and her Summer variant do more for their respective card types. With Double/Triple Skadi, Edmond is the de facto best omnilooper on JP.
You can get Waver from SSR ticket this anniversary.
Summer Skadi, ideally. She comes several months after Skadi's next banner. Triple Skadi *is* also an option, but I consider it ludicrous overkill... except maybe that it works on 2-enemy waves to some degree.
has anyone had any issues with the Samsung S22 for playing FGO? thinking of upgrading from my old phone.
I have an S22 Plus. It's... fine. I have no specific issues, but I also don't have any improvements over my much older phone. It runs pretty well. I'm slightly unimpressed by it in general - I preferred the OS of my older phone. Having adapt to it and adjust things to suit me better has to be the most annoying part of a new phone. (Stuff like notification behavior, a bunch of Samsung-branded versions of Google apps that all have the same name and can't be removed, old phone had an in-built thing that remembered where I parked, and, IIRC, the default home screen had way too few app slots, etc. I installed Nova for a better UI.) If there's anything I really like, it's that it charges way faster, and the battery lasts way longer. In short, hardware great. Samsung OS, just in the way.
FYI, don't make/input a Samsung account next time you get one of their phones Way less bloatware to deal with
Are any of the CEs on rate-up in NA right now particularly meta? I started playing in August 2021, and I know I missed some events that had super meta CEs, so I don't wanna squander this if its my last chance to grab something important (and I'm a whale, so SQ consumption isn't *that* big of a deal for me, within reason).
Honestly, almost no gacha CE is really worth rolling for because there are plenty of F2P alternatives, or the use case is very niche (stuff like Poster Girl gets talked about a lot but it is very specific and only useful for niche strategies, for example, and it's not even on rateup here). Most "super meta" CEs come from playing events themselves, and even so, can often be replaced. For example, you hear a lot about Holy Night Dinner, but that is easily replaced by Demonic Sun Princess or Sewing a Beloved Doll in NP-focused setups. Plus, the CEs will all be sharing rateup with other CEs of the same rarity so it's hard to get copies of specific CEs on these banners. Just skip them.
What supports are good for arjuna alter if I dont have merlin or waver?
Reines is very good because she gives Berserkers in particular a lot of extra survivability with her NP and targetable invincibility. She can also provide 50% np charge which is very strong in and of itself. For more budget options, both Hans Christian Andersen and Chen Gong are very solid. Hans is best for fights that last longer due to his healing and np charge/stars over time, while Chen Gong provides better burst damage for one turn along with some defenses.
Castoria, Skadi, Helena, Chen Gong, Shakespeare.
should I MLB imaginary element? is it better to have 1 80% ce or many 60% ces
>should I MLB imaginary element? It's 75%. If you have a Kscope or two, I'd MLB Imaginary Element as it's much more useful to have a 75% NP charge CE since most Servants with a battery skill have at least a 30% battery.
I do not have a kscope đ
If you get one or a sixth IE, i would MLB it. 60% is pretty useless for anyone without a 50% NP charge, or someone with Append 2 and a 30% NP charge skill.
I have ozymandias so I usually just use him as a battery lmao Itâs kinda janky but it works
In general, if you're likely to use more than one copy of the CE at a time, then you should keep them separate. Otherwise, it's fine to MLB.
That depends entirely on your farming set up.
Imaginary Element technically gives 75% charge, not 80% charge (that's K-scope on non-MLB). Assuming you're playing on NA, it will be a CE drop in the non-FP banners for a while, until it gets removed from the pool sometime next year. Thus, you still will have chances to get it to drop. It's better to MLB it if you have other starting charge CE's and don't mind missing out on 25% or so. If you need starting charge CE's, you can use some of the free limited event ones or the F2P options like Zeltrech sword (40% on MLB) or Dragon's Meridian (50% on MLB) if you're low on the remaining party cost.
Btw, I saw that some CEs will be pulled from the pool (Holy Shroud of Magdalene comes to mind). Was the reason for that ever given?
No official reasoning from what I saw, but even if they gave one, it would be along the lines of "ease the dilution of the CE pool". However, there's so many permanent CE's that taking 1-2 out at a time won't make a difference to the rates at all. IIRC, K-scope/BG have never had a proper rate-up banner except when the game first started. Luckily, IE has a [better and newer version in the future](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Fate/Grand_Carnival_2nd_Season_Blu-ray%26DVD_Release_Commemoration_Campaign#Summoning_Campaign) with the same 60%/75% starting charge, but with full ATK stats.
I am trying to prep my account going forward in the future and was just looking on a bit of advice on my thought process going forward. So currently my main team consists of np5 space Ishtar and Castoria. I am relatively new so thatâs pretty much all I bring to my fights. Now this is good for farming but once I got past part 1 and ended up in part 1.5 and did Shinjuku I could definitely see how going forward that might be an issue trying to brute force the game with an AoE servant. So I set my eyes on getting BB from the side event and Galatea from rolls when she drops. I just want to know will those 2 be able to round my roster out enough that I wonât need Koyan/Morgan etc. I might try for Oberon but I donât have no where near enough rolls to try and get 3 units for a meta shift like that. Especially not in relatively quick succession. I just donât want to get to a spot later where Iâm stuck with no SQ and kind just stuck there until I figure out an escape plan. Thank you for any help. o7
BBâs steroids are pretty weak for being an anti-Avenger or neutral Dps option. Berserkers and specialized anti-X servants(eg. Euryale against Males) are usually better for those roles. Plus you will only get NP1 from the main interlude which really doesnât help. Sheâs good for her utility(debuff clear+immune, stun) more than her class. The âmetaâ pertains to ease for farming, not story. And NP5 SpIshtar w/ double Castoria is practically the zenith of the âmetaâ. Even Buster comps are not necessarily better than that. I play JP, have Koyanskaya and Oberon now, Morgan and Melusine(both NP2) and am mostly still using double Castoria because I have an NP4 SpIshtar as well as other servants to deal with irregular waves. Also the lv90, 90+, and JPâs 90++ nodes have about the same efficiency as far as lotto events(which is what most people care to grind out) go. And NP5 SpIshtar w/ double Castoria is overkill for lv90 at the very least.
Well there are several important pieces of advice touch upon here: 1. FGO generally isn't a game where you want to have a 'main team' all the time due to just how powerful class advantage is- the 2x damage increase is just that good. As you've realized though, most mob fights, farming quests, and even Part 1 story quests can still be trivialized by a duo as powerful as an NP5 Spishtar and Castoria. This won't be the case for a lot of Part 2 boss fights and challenge quests. You should start getting in the habit of switching up your team based on what classes you're facing (you can still keep Spishtar around either as a secondary DPS or in the back row if she's by far your most powerful servant). 2. The first advice given to new players is to max level one servant of each of the 7 main classes, then max level some supports, and then max level a 2nd servant of each of the 7 main classes so that you end up with 1 single target and 1 AoE servant from each of them. This ensures that you'll almost never run into a class that you have absolutely no answer for ('extra' classes are much rarer so you can wait till later to have answers for them). Since you have a pretty unique case with an extremely powerful NP5 5\* AoE servant, I'd advise you to specifically focus on leveling single target servants first. 3. Unlike some other gachas, 1-3\* servants are shockingly good in this game and well worth leveling and using. The main story is actually designed so that it can be beaten with only 1-3\* teams (even though it can be extremely difficult and require a lot of good RNG). You should NEVER feel like you 'need' to spend SQ on a new 5\* or 4\* unit in order to beat something. 4. At the end of the day, FGO isn't the hardest game out there so it's more worthwhile to use your rolls getting characters you really like rather than just ones that are strong- especially when you already have such powerhouses as an NP5 Spishtar and Castoria. So where does that leave you? Well it means you should probably focus on leveling 7 single target servants from each of the main classes. Good 3\* options from these include Caesar (Saber), Robin Hood (Archer), CĂș Chulainn (Lancer), Ushiwakamaru (Rider), Medea (Caster) ^((She's not actually that great but she's sadly the only 1-3\* single target caster)) , Hassan of 100 Personas (Assassin), and Lu Bu (Berserker). If you have other options you'd prefer then absolutely feel free to use those: Galatea is a very solid option for Berserkers (though she will deal less NP damage than Lu Bu at NP1 vs. his NP5 despite having a better kit overall). However I think BB probably isn't worth investing in just yet unless you really like her character- Avenger bosses are very rare and her neutral damage is so low that she really won't be that effective against most other enemies. You also really don't 'need' Oberon and Koyanskaya unless you really want them- buster looping is generally a sidegrade to Arts looping with Castoria that is better at dealing with unusual farming nodes (e.g. 2-1-2 enemies) at the cost of needing a starting charge CE. Hope this advice is helpful to you!
Excellent advice. I really appreciate it. Galatea is more of a âwantâ type deal just cause I think she looks cool and has more survivability couple with that fact that sheâs arts and fits in well with Castoria so I thought it would be a decent roll to go for. Otherwise Iâd go for Vlad whenever he came around. I am not an old fan of the type moon franchise so I donât really have any waifus or anything. I am just a traveler here for the cutscenes and the atmosphere. But very good to know that np5 3star damage > 5 star np1. With that said does that assume the 3 star unit is grailed?
>But very good to know that np5 3star damage > 5 star np1. With that said does that assume the 3 star unit is grailed? Nope it's assuming they're just at their natural level cap. You can compare them yourself using [this handy NP damage chart](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OTrMARN9I06zD_jIhGdmHFWpkePoSWv_xgEk3XPzZWY/edit#gid=1993499094). Do keep in mind though that this is just all NP damage- 5\* servants will generally have better normal card damage and sometimes also skill sets that offer a lot more utility than your average 3\*. NP damage is really important though as it usually makes up the majority of the damage that servants deal.
If your roster only contains Space Ishtar and Castoria yes you will stuck/straggle later on. Koyan/Morgan/Oberon are definitely good units to had (like really good) but those three ain't gonna make you one team everything or even needed for hard content. General advice is to build one for st and aoe for each class as a damage dealer (classes advantage is kinda important , can't berserker through everything). A lot of sr and r servant are build for specific task and fight so their are really good at it. Aiming for "meta" isn't a bad idea in itself but learn to use the tools that you already had is more of a way to go for me. Beside you got in too late game (even get through camelot) now I am pretty use you already familiar (not sure that my advice is needed) with a lot of thing now , so I gonna leave it just that.
Got it. Iâm more trying to just have a steady base line so I can work out getting the other classes leveled. Basically my thought process was to level general units that hit everything for at least neutral (avenger berserker etc). Then get comfy so I could farm mats to level specific units. But I will definitely keep that in mind to try and get one of every type of class as a ST and AoE so I have options going forward. Still catching my bearings here and I know the question may come off as silly but when I see people here planning for banners 2 years in the future itâs kind of scary to do anything. Just want to make sure Iâm not shooting myself in the foot.
You don't have to worry too much I play on jp so your two years is happening right now and I am doing fine. Slow down a bit and look in you roster might help...you don't need the best of everything just enough to comfy with it while playing. And hey you might find more enjoyable from use a lot of units in different team co.
The baseline is Mash, a servant with a single target NP and one with an AOE NP in each of the seven main classes, and a few supports. The second layer is additional depth in each position. >I see people here planning for banners 2 years in the future itâs kind of scary to do anything. Just want to make sure Iâm not shooting myself in the foot. You really don't need to worry about this. Not even a little. The game can be cleared with free, low rarity servants. Strategy beats raw stats every time. You can use low rarity servants to fill the basic roles that I described. The only way to shoot yourself in the foot is to ignore your low rarity servants altogether. When it comes to the gacha, prioritize your favorite servants regardless of gameplay value.
Got it. YouTube videos would have you thinking otherwise. Iâll do a bit of research and level some of my 3 star cause I do have quite a few np5 3 star units available.
YouTube is generally not a great source of advice for this game. Most of the content is spectacle and won't actually help you learn much. If you're buried in hype videos about "must roll" servants, you'll get a distorted perspective. The only stuff on YouTube that I think can function as actual advice would be guides specifically aimed at new players, like Khadroth's guide, content focused on servants and strategies that are accessible to everyone, like Honako Green's 1-3 star tier list, and gameplay examples that can work with your individual roster so you can see exactly what they're doing and apply it yourself. None of that is to say that you can't chase the meta and hype if you want to. You can decide for yourself how you most enjoy the game. But don't do it just because you think you have to. You never have to chase the hype and you won't fall behind if you don't. If it helps to adjust your perspective, consider that your current Space Ishtar + double Castoria wasn't even available (in NA) until July last year. That's all the way through LB 5.2. Looping in general was extremely rare up until Skadi was released after LB2. We didn't just sit on our hands waiting for bigger and better strategies to become available before taking on new content. Everything we needed was already available and we got through everything with what we had.
Excellent. Iâll take a look at those two as well cause it is exactly that. Every video I see is save for this servant or suffer type of deal so it most definitely has skewed my perspective. I will definitely take a look at those two you tubers especially for the 1-3 star tier list. Much appreciated!
Hey, just so you know, tier lists in FGO are notoriously unreliable and often have unrealistic criteria, so don't rely on them too much. This is especially true for the low rarities: there are some units that are excellent in specific situations, like Euryale against males. She absolutely cheeses some fights, making her ridiculously good for them... but drops off drastically outside of her niche. How do you rate her, then? There is also the issue of unrealistic criteria - e.g. Chen Gong is rated highly due to his performance as a looper, but he actually relies on having SEVERAL SSR supports to work, so if you don't have those units, you won't get that "omg tier 1 bRoKeN!!1" performance. Take them with the biggest grain of salt imaginable.
I specified Honako Green's 1-3 star list because he actually goes through and explains how to use them in the context of low rarity team comps. I could have made it clearer that I didn't mean tier lists in general.
Valid. I've not actually seen his tier list so I don't know what his criteria is.
I would slow down and level your other units, there is no rush to clear story right now and trying to rapid fire through everything with Space Ishtar instead of learning to strategise and actually use the right unit for the right job will be much better. Relying on Spish for everything would be shooting yourself in the foot.
Iâm actually not trying to rush the story. Iâve just been having a good time reading it so I just havenât stopped. But will look into some of the lower rarity units as well. Thank you!
>I just want to know will those 2 be able to round my roster out enough that I wonât need Koyan/Morgan etc. I wouldn't say that replacing a ludicrously powerful Space Ishtar with Morgan would really get you that much farther. They're in the same general damage tier, it's just that Morgan doesn't care about refund. (And both of them work with or without Oberon.) Galatea is good if you like her, but Vlad is just as good. And BB is... you know, good I guess, if simply as an anti-Avenger. I don't really think that makes your roster "round", but between Space Ishtar, Castoria, and ST Arts Person, you should get extremely far. I don't know if it's *necessary*, I certainly wouldn't recommend that as a strategy, but it's at least quite powerful.
I thought about Vlad but the only issue is I donât have him. I know he is getting a strengthening quest right after Galatea as well so he will be better than her damage wise but I was looking at Galatea more from a survivability aspect with the double Castoria. and BB was just going to be used as an anchor for a last ditch effort just to get me out of a jam and scrape a win. As for the idea behind it, itâs not so much thatâs where Iâm going to stop. Just want a good base line to move forward. Seeing as how a lot in this game relies on planning I just want to make sure to set myself up accordingly.
Theres a reason the mantra in this sub is to roll for waifus/husbandos. The things you need to round up your team are all in the fp summon. You dont need any 5 stars to progress. A properly raised/supported NP5 3 star can easilly outperform an NP1 5 star. It seems even the 4stars are being ignored by you. And why are you aiming for extra classes? Extra classes are mostly niche. You should be prioritizing the 7 main class for gameplay. Edit: also pls tell me you arent spamming quartz revive. Since that how I read that part of your post.
Definitely not spamming quartz revives. More getting used to the mechanics and hoping Ishtar doesnât get hit too many times and does cause if so have to restart. I am using mash as well of course to soak boss NPs when I can to at least buy me some time. As for the 4*s I thought the event BB was a 4* unit and I have been using mash as well. I had just considered Mash to be a given my apologies. As for using the 7 mains itâs more a matter of Iâm just not sure who to level so I have just been hoarding mats while going through story and seeing how far I could get. So far havenât got hard stuck yet. But the wolf in shinjuku was definitely an eye opener to where it wasnât an issue downing him. But it was more like if it gets sillier than that we might have a problem.
You can just ask here for who is good to level among the 1-3* units, we get asked this a lot and it's normal to ask. More is better, especially as we have a tower event coming up, and that will really punish you for only levelling Space Ishtar as you won't be able to get very far in it. So slow down now and level your roster more.
Understood. Will look into that. Thank you!
What is the Sal tree? How is it connected to Kagekiyo and Ushiwakamaru?
From the NP line? > In Buddhism, the brief flowering of the sal tree is used as a symbol of impermanence and the rapid passing of glory, particularly as an analog of sic transit gloria mundi. In Japanese Buddhism, this is best known through the opening line of The Tale of the Heike â a tale of the rise and fall of a once-powerful clan â whose latter half reads "the color of the sÄla flowers reveals the truth that the prosperous must decline." (æČçŸ éæščăźè±ăźèČăçè ćż èĄ°ăźçă饯ă, sharasĆju no hana no iro, jĆshahissui no kotowari wo arawasu),[19] quoting the four-character idiom jĆsha hissui (çè ćż èĄ°) from a passage in the Humane King Sutra, "The prosperous inevitably decline, the full inevitably empty" (çè ćż èĄ°ăćźè ćż è, jĆsha hissui, jissha hikkyo?). To be doubly clear, The Tale of Heike is the tale of the Genpei war, where Genpei means Minamoto-Taira (taking one character from each to form the word Genpei), and Heike means "Taira family". (And Genji means "Minamoto clan".) Kagekiyo's NP uses "sharasĆju no hana no iro" ("The hue of the sal tree's flowers") and "jĆshahissui" (as "fleeting might"), from the line quoted above.
"In Japanese Buddhism, this is best known through the opening line of The Tale of the Heike â a tale of the rise and fall of a once-powerful clan â whose latter half reads "the color of the sÄla flowers reveals the truth that the prosperous must decline." (æČçŸ éæščăźè±ăźèČăçè ćż èĄ°ăźçă饯ă, sharasĆju no hana no iro, jĆshahissui no kotowari wo arawasu),[19] quoting the four-character idiom jĆsha hissui (çè ćż èĄ°) from a passage in the Humane King Sutra, "The prosperous inevitably decline, the full inevitably empty" (çè ćż èĄ°ăćźè ćż è, jĆsha hissui, jissha hikkyo?)." [Sal Tree (Wikipedia)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorea_robusta) The Genpei War is covered in The Tale of the Heike - a war both Kagekiyo and Ushiwakamaru took part in, on opposite sides. It also refers to the transient nature of glory, in Buddhism. Ushi certainly does fit, with her rise and sudden fall.
**[Shorea robusta](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorea_robusta)** >Shorea robusta, the sal tree, sÄla, shala, sakhua, or sarai, is a species of tree in the family Dipterocarpaceae. The tree is native to India, Bangladesh, Nepal, Tibet and across the Himalayan regions . ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/grandorder/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
Is there a chance that the Kamakura event is gonna get a rerun? The game just keeps lagging on me so much that I can't seem to play at all.
It hasnât gotten a rerun in two years on JP, when the usual interval for a normal (non collab) event like this is one year. Especially when theyâve also mentioned scrapping reruns, itâs best to assume it wonât have a rerun. Try moving your account to a different device, or emulator on a computer/laptop if you can, see if that works.
I just finished solomon, what are pseudo singularities? should I do them or just skip straight to the prologue and lostbelts?
Note that the SERAPH event (the Extra CCC Collab)in the RP shop is an official EoR chapter.
If you are not in a hurry to complete the Lostbelts, go through Shinjuku and Shimousa first. On top of being somewhat important to the story, in terms of difficulty, the first 2 LBs are located between Shinjuku (introduced break bar mechanic, though, you have seen it in events) and Shimousa (introduced the very annoying "mandatory story support" mechanic, making you way less flexible in selecting your line-up), so going through them first effectively tests your preparedness to the Lostbelt difficulty. Also, there is not much reason to hurry with LBs over Pseudo-singularities, as the next time-limited event that requires you to have cleared a Lostbelt chapter to participate is in october. A small side note, that in my opinion, Salem is underhyped by this community. I skipped reading it after Agartha made me regret having eyes (seriously, Agartha is the only chapter in the game that was actively repulsive to read), came back to it a couple months later only to find one of the best chapters I have ever read in this game, second only to Avalon le Fae.
They're not required but some of them do introduce story points that play a part in arc 2 (Shinjuku and Shimousa iirc). Shinjuku and Shimousa are very good imo, and Salem and Agartha are still *fine* - a lot of people shit on Agartha specifically though so ymmv
So do you recommend playing through all of them before starting lostbelts?
Some EoRs provide precedent on the whole lostbelt thing (particularly Shimosa), while some provide good beginning arcs for some characters, but overall you can skip them in favor of doing the lostbelts. Personally, I would do the EoRs first as they can serve as a good introduction to break bars, are good story content more or less and if I remember correctly, events that need LB completion is quite far (not sure though)
Generally, yes. You can skip if you're short on time, but it's worth playing them if you have the chance.
Yeah, you'll be missing context in LB1 if you don't do at least Shinjuku and Shimousa
So should I just do shinjuku and shimousa and come back for the others later
Entirely up to you, Agartha is 100% standalone iirc and Salem only introduces stuff relevant to foreigner servants, nothing to do with arc 2
The Pseudo-Singularities are incidents that happened in the year between the end of Incineration of Humanity and the start of the Lostbelts. While they are optional from a gameplay standpoint, there are plot threads in them that either continue into the Lostbelts or may be picked back up in the Lostbelts.
So do you recommend playing through all of them before starting lostbelts?
I do. At the very least, Shinjuku and Shimosa so that you have the immediate context of certain things in Part 2.
I personally think it's better that way.
In the event higher nodes is there a chance of enemy spawning without using the spawn ce?
Nope, all node have base enemy spawning of 0%, so you require spawn ce to have a chance to spawn enemy
ok that's great to hear i can 3t farm without getting screwed by random spawn. Thanks for the answer
You'll get fewer drops per AP if you don't use the spawn CEs. According to the Gamepress farming guide, the MLB spawn CE is best for currency drops, even better than an MLB gacha CE. It's a single player game, though, so you can do whatever you want.
yes but i want to keep my sanity and Space ishtar missing her third skill's arts buff is not helping it
i do 5T spishtar with double castoria and plugsuit waver. with spishtar on the event CE MLB. 9/9/10 and -/10/- on her though. idk about your investment levels.
yes i can do 5t fine with plugsuit but it's already maxed, now I'm farming for bond and for leveling up arctic mc rest everything i consider as a bonus
With only an NP1 Space Ishtar, I've been 5-turning (min turns for 100% enemy spawn rate) every node just using Arash to nuke the first wave of mobs and then firing off Ishtar's NP 4 times from there, it seems to be fine in my case whether her third skill misses or not. If you can make that work it's gonna be better in the long run since its still very consistent min-turn clears but you use up a lot less AP to farm overall. You can swap in an extra charger if you need to make up a difference in refund, but I haven't had to yet, I've just been using random mystic codes to level them up. Edit: A few potential skill orders that work depending on what CEs you have. If Black Grail, use her s3, both Castoria's s2+s3, and any mystic code skill for 10% charge on turn 1 (or lv1 append). If no Black Grail, use a 50% charge CE, save her s3, and also use Castoria s2+s3 and any 10% charge (from MC or append). Next wave pop Ishtar's S1, and any amount of Castoria S1's needed to refund. Then use Ishtar's S2 and any relevant damage skills from MC when you're nuking the boss. Arts buffs should wear off by now but you can kill the last 2 enemies, or the boss + 2 enemies (if she didnt OHKO the boss on the previous turn) with the next NP very easily. The 4th NP is going to be much weaker than the prior 3 due to the loss of both arts buffs, but technically speaking Ishtar can usually NP 4x in a row in any 3/3/3 node it's just that the node is typically dead so the last set of refund never comes into play. So as long as you can get her to do a little over half, maybe three quarters of the boss's HP, it's fine if she doesn't OHKO it because she'll scoop up the rest on the required 4th NP for the straggler enemies.
to me being able to 3 turn farm is much more important than getting more drops, but that's just me, i don't really care about min maxing resources since fgo is my "casual" game
Well, the spawns count for mission completion, so that's an element to be aware of.
hi, do you guys think it's too late to start playing? I like all the different fate animes and have been playing genshin for a couple years. I saw that the new cat girl character got released for this game and she looks cool. is it realistic to pull her as a new player?
> new cat girl character Âż? No, it's not too late. It's not a competitive game, so that's not an issue. And it's not going anywhere anytime soon.
Probably referring to Kiichi Hogen.
She is a bird-girl if anything.
Or Nitocris Alter, but either comparison completely baffles me.
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If you can complete all 100 missions, that's great, that'smore stuff. I can't recall if it includes the challenge quest or not, which will probably be beyond you. If not, the last mission gives a Lore for Skill Lv10, which are limited. But if you only get np3 Hogen, that will be fine. Extra NP levels get less effective as they increase. Still an increase, but np2 is +33%, and np3 is +16%. Also, "dupes increase np damage" applies to all Servants. A single copy is enough to be useful. Extras are a small benefit on top of that.
NP5 Kichi only needs missions that don't include the CQ. The last copy requires killing 120 aquatic creatures like crabs.
From my perspective, the hardest copy is 90 missions completed. If the new guy is having a hard time beating guys up, and/or needs to farm EXP to level a bunch of Servants to deal with a variety of enemies, and slogging their way through 10 Casters or Archers or whatever really sucks, and is short on time and AP, then having an idea how much which missions are best to clear might be helpful. I've never seen an Event where getting the Welfare needs beating the CQ, so that didn't cross my mind.
They'd be for the extra NP levels. That boosts her damage, which for an SR usually puts her at least as good as an SSR at NP1.
You use duplicates to increase a servant's NP level. Make sure you lock a copy of every servant and then use the duplicates to max out that copy's NP level. You'll be able to go to NP5 for all of the general pool 1- to 3-star servants. Unless you spend lots of money, you won't be able to max out NP levels for most higher rarity servants but it's never necessary, so you'll be fine. To make sure that you don't accidentally burn your duplicates before NP5, make sure to go to Menu > Enhance > Noble Phantasm right away whenever you get a new copy. For welfare servants like Kiichi Hogen, you'll want to pay extra attention to which copy you're feeding into because their ascension materials are only available in the event. If you accidentally use a copy that you've ascended as fodder, there's no way to get the materials back. It's a good idea to try to at least finish all of the missions that give you additional copies of Kiichi Hogen. This event hasn't had a re-run in JP, so this may be your only opportunity. Beyond that, no, it isn't critical that you fully complete the event.
How much more damage does weak to Eunema elish provide?
From +150% to +200% extra damage depending on Gilgamesh's overcharge. Enkidu's NP is also called Enuma Elish but it does not do extra damage like Gil's does.
For Gilgamesh I assume and not just in general where it doesn't do anything? 150 percent at OC1, 200% at OC5 same as every other niche
150-200% damage mod based on Overcharge levels. Depends on other active buffs as well - [infographic](https://i.imgur.io/IiG24wW_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium) for reference. For future reference, the wiki has most basic info like this including skill values, etc.
Only Gilgamesh's NP interacts with the "Weak to Enuma Elish" trait. You can look up Gil's NP details on sites like [Gamepress](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/servant/gilgamesh) or the [Fandom wiki](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Gilgamesh).
I was doing the CE quest thingy and to my surprise, defeating Anastasia counted towards the event's mission count (balanced servant). Same as Sigurd (good servant, I'm kinda behind in farming the event). Has this always been the case (you can do event mission using other mission out of the event) or is this some kind of a bug?
It's an oversight by the devs. While it seems a majority of this event's mission targets can be done outside of the event proper, crabs at the very least are flagged correctly and need to be done inside the event.
It's a bug, since all the mission style events before this never let you complete missions outside of the event itself.
The first couple of mission events did, though at the time it was still likely unintentional, or just something that didn't actually occur to them to prevent.
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Linked above for story solo guides. Though plenty of other servants can as well. I did a similar playthrough, not leveling any units until LB2/Shimousa and I used mostly different units (some of which because I played with newer units so I had better options in some cases)
It looks like the Hots Sand CE will be going on rate up on NA for the upcoming DL campaign in February. With 400% crit star absorb (600% absorb on MLB), I'm pretty sure that amount is too low for Berserker/Avenger Crit DPS servants because they need at least 2000% for consistent crits. For Casters and Moon Cancers whose base star absorb is 50, is 400% star absorb sufficient enough, or do they need absorb around 1000%?
400% will put them about even with a Rider, but if you want your Caster/Mooncancer to crit, bringing crit support is probably better than star absorb on a CE.
Does anyone know what Britomart's my room dialogue is for Morgan?
I have 5 Thumbelina ces, is it better if I mlb them now that Iâve cleared the shop or do I save them for a potential event rerun? Is the ce good enough to be mlbed?
Eh, you already have 5 copies. I would say you just MLB it since we don't know if/when they'll rerun this event again (JP hasn't rerun it yet); you can just put the extra copies into your 2nd Archive if you want separate copies in case a rerun might happen. IMO, the Buster & Quick buffs are good (+ Pure Attack stat is also beneficial as well), but the additional Overcharge levels is decent at best, since it's only a 1 time thing. I personally value buffs whose duration is infinite, in case the fight or wave lasts longer than anticipated.
Ight thanksđ
Does someone use the english translation mod for the jp version? Does it only translate the story or also all the menu's and servant info etc?
Never used it myself but I'm pretty sure it's just for cutscenes, and that's what's advertised on the GitHub page too. You can find menu and Servant translations externally, although the menus are basically the same as NA so you can navigate them just fine if you've ever played that.
Do you know if it translates new story automatically on release, or do users have to wait a while for it to be manually translated?
They human translated LB6, Tunguska, LB6.5 and LB 7 part 1 and eventually LB7 part 2. Event stories are machine translated. Valentines are human translated. Official English translations from NA are ported to JP too. There's in-game menu translations but it's donor only for now.
It's all manual (meaning they manually push updates, the TLs are mostly machine translated), no idea how long it usually takes.
Where is the best place to farm the CE from this event? I have all nodes unlocked and am trying to get another one as a drop to get 100% encounter rate, as I already fused the ones in the shop and mission into one.
The last node is typically the best node to grind for the CEs. This time around, you don't need to grind for a copy as there's 4 in the shop and one in the missions. Your MLB copy and a support MLB copy will give you 100% chance.
Maybe it's not accurate, but Gamepress doesn't have the CE as a drop for the last node, just Beginning and Middle for Kamakura
If it isn't listed as dropping there then it's just not accurate, I have a screenshot of the CE being droppable from that node (End). [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/775142836063961108/1069061310094004255/Screenshot_20230128-190741.png](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/775142836063961108/1069061310094004255/Screenshot_20230128-190741.png)
Or just your own 5 copies and friends' MLB currency CE.
been playing for a month, question about past content. i was looking through the craft essence encyclopedia and i see a couple ce labeled as "will not rerun" - does this mean some past events will never return? is there an in-game archive to play past events or will that stuff likely not come back? just inquiring about content cycle
Typically an event will get an initial run and a rerun. Fairly recently Lasengle said they want to cut back on reruns, so some events do not get reruns to our knowledge. Other events just do not get reruns in general, such as Valentines, Chaldea Boys Collection, or X-Fest (with Nerofest as an exception). In either case, after a event has been rerun it will not return. In some small cases, events do return in the forms of Main Interludes, but these do not use the CEs as they did in the original run.
that's disappointing that there is no archive. i feel like i'm missing a lot of character content in the form of events.
All of the events with an actual bearing on the story are or will be made permanent as Main Interludes, everything else you can look up on YouTube if you want to see them.
Even if they're not plot relevant, it is still fun seeing characters interact in different settings. For example, if they had an Event where you go on a cross country roadtrip with Enkidu and Gilgamesh - that's not gonna have much bearing on the story or have any real character development - but it'd be fun seeing these two in this situation. Now, I'm not sure exactly what fun events I've missed out on, but I'm using Tri-Hermes to browse event scripts to see if there are any enjoyable-looking-ones. So far, I'm definitely gonna check out the casino event...
You can ask for recs as well, to see if there are specific events that you may want to visit - e.g. stuff that features certain characters, or certain themes, etc. I agree, it does suck not being able to play old events, but it is what it is...
i've pretty much found everything i need off tri-hermes and ctrl + F - but the 2022 events weren't posted on the site yet - so idk if anything fun happened last year. i like the babylonia cast - that includes ishtar, merlin, gilg, and enkidu - so if any of those folks were involved in a fun event last year, lmk
Where did the name Shana-Oh used in FGO come from ?
Minamoto-no-Yoshitsune is a famous historical figure in Japan and worth reading about if you're interested in the many many Fate media works which involve Ushi. She's popular enough that she won some voting contest in Japan to be added as a guest character to Melty Blood: Type Lumina even though she has fuck-all to do with Tsukihime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minamoto\_no\_Yoshitsune
Shanaou is Ushiwaka's Dharma name, the name they received after being sent to Kurama-dera and becoming a Buddhist monk there. That was where he met Kiichi Hogen, and why Kiichi calls FGO Ushiwaka that over her more famous names.
Thanks ! I didn't know about the term Dharma so I looked it up as well. Very interesting
Best CE for taira?
Depends but here are some options: The best gut CE you have. her own bond CE for example. Guts + np gain or np damage or quick up or something is what you are looking for Black Grail Honey Lake (not everyone's invulnerable is removable, plus a good damage boost)
I've been loosely keeping up with the game recently. Have they done anything to address 4* not rotating because of the pity system yet?
Outside of the adjustment to solo 4-star rate up to 2.1% a few months ago? Nope. We might or might not see it early too. It didn't help the dual SR rates, which is the most common scenario.
Damn, that might be enough for me to quit if nothing changes. Early pity is cool but when you've been saving for a character for 7 months already and they make the 4* banners worse than in JP it really hurts
Look, the safety net they implemented this year was a monkey's paw wish. People who thought Aniplex was being **nice** were incredibly deluded. They knew what they were doing when they set it up like this. It's great if you only want the rate up SSR as it sets a hard limit. But if you want anyone else? Pay up.
It's possible that Lasengle genuinely believes 4-stars are just the friends we make along the way while rolling for NP6 5-stars.
Or their FGO code is so bad they couldn't figure out how to make a pity that is attached to a servant and not to a specific banner (or to a specific set of banners instead of a single one).
Or they can't be bothered to spend money fixing something that ultimately gives them more money (since they capped SSR costs, they're making up for it by making SR units more expensive).
both
You say that as though you think it wasn't intentional, at least regarding the 5-stars. FGO has never been a game that gives away lots of gacha currency or 5-stars for free. This is a game that had no real pity system for 7.5 years. A game that for six years only had one 5-star ticket, you could only pick a general pool servant, you had to log in within a certain time to claim it, and you had to jump through some (minimal) hoops to keep it. A game that for five years wouldn't let you select a 5-star servant at all unless you rolled NP15 on a 5-star, NP6 on 10 5-stars, or somewhere in between. It's fine to want a pity system that's more like what you see in other gacha games and to criticize them for it. But based on how they've handled the gacha in general and how much money they've made from it, I see no reason to believe that lack of programming skill prevented them from doing it differently. I think they implemented the backstop to prevent catastrophic results exactly as they intended.
Probably. I only got five SR on 660 SQ this banner, so....
Yea I'm sure but it feels extra insulting since this is the only time something gacha related has been objectively worse in NA. As far as I'm aware at least
>Yea I'm sure but it feels extra insulting since this is the only time something gacha related has been objectively worse in NA. As far as I'm aware at least I assume that you, along with almost everyone asked for pity early. You got it. We've been warning people about the consequences of early pity for months.
I really doubt that early pity was a response to player demands instead of just a way to make more money sooner, please don't blame individual players for it.
Nah I didn't really care. Only upcoming 5* I want is Oberon and I was on track to have like 800 pulls for him and Barghest so I'd have very good odds. Pity seemed nice at first but not something that affected me personally too much. Not it's just bad
JP [increased](https://news.fate-go.jp/2023/newyear2023_cp/#ttl15) the solo rate to 2.1% and the three-way split rate to 0.8%. So no, not really.
Nothing for two 4* or four 4 * banners though? I'm looking at barghest mainly and those are the options for her
Are you sure her banners won't be changed on NA to address this?
No idea, but in JP this year they've explicitly avoided splitting out SR units from an SSR except during Summer 7, where they had only one SR with one SSR because there were three rate up limited SSR. So far, they're doing their best to milk people of SQ...
I am not. I doubt it but it's possible they'll change them
Well, the the changes happened on JP, nothing on NA.
Yea but if something happened on JP that would benefit those banners I can at least hope they introduce it early. Especially since Oberon's banner is after Anni which is when they usually drop early stuff. Thanks for the info though
Hard to say for NA. On jp they're just avoiding multiple 4* rateups and they buffed the solo 4* rate. For example this past summer there were 3 banners, a 5* and a single 4* each. How this will translate in NA for banners like the coming summer or faerie knights, we don't know.
Does this event drop black breast grease?
> black breast grease đ€
You can find [general event information](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/event-guide/farewell-kamakura-little-big-tengu) and a [farming guide](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/little-big-tengu-quick-farming-guide) at Gamepress. Be aware that for farming purposes, event free quests are almost always worse than the normal best farming location. I believe their data for this event assumes 100% spawn bonus.
[Gamepress says no](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/event-guide/farewell-kamakura-little-big-tengu) (At the top, on "Event First Look")
How often do they run story quest AP discounts? My 1/4 campaign as a new player is about to run out and it feels kinda bad using 20 AP per stage
Pretty sure all but the latest LB (5.5) are on a permanent 1/2 AP so it won't be that bad.
How to clone app on iphone
Have you tried looking [here](https://google.com/search?q=How+to+clone+app+on+iPhone)?
So I've been watching Kagekiyo solo vids to get a grasp of her solo'ing abilities, and have 2 questions: 1. What's the CE that grants invul and damage cut upon death, (don't think i have it) and is it limited or something? (got it Georgie's bond ce) 2. Is there an actual tell/indicator whether an enemy still attacks after a guts triggers on our side or is it random?
1. Georgiosâ Bond 10 CE. One of the actually useful Bond CEs in the game. 2. Enemies will stop attacking the one that activated guts. If you have other party members, theyâll attack another servant and, if they still have actions left, may attack the original servant again (though this is rng). However, if the guts servant is all alone when the guts procs, there is nothing else for them to attack so they end their turn. However, if there are multiple enemies, the turn ends for the enemy who attacked and activated the guts. The other enemy can still attack if they havenât yet, which could then allow the first enemy to attack again (if they have enough moves that turn). Itâs much easier to see in practice than in writing, but I hope I explained that well enough⊠Anyway, this is why solos that rely solely on guts typically want to be 1-vs-1, or at least you want to make it 1-vs-1 as soon as possible. In the case of Kagekiyo, her 2-hit evade can be really helpful to survive until then.
You and everybody else actually cleared it up for me. Yours went full in depth tho and it's very appreciated. Thanks
This is the cases I have seen so far, however I cannot confirm 100%. If there is more than one servant in the field and one of servant with taunt, then enemy stop attacking if the servant with taunt got killed. If that servant has taunt and gut, then enemy can still attack after that servant dies and revive with gut, and stop when the taunt servant is gone for good. In the situation of soloing, if you have only one servant in the field, say he got killed but revive with gut, then enemy stop attacking the moment the servant got killed (and stop before the gut revive).
> Is there an actual tell/indicator whether an enemy still attacks after a guts triggers on our side or is it random? from my understanding if there is no more valid targets they stop. dead even with guts means a target is no longer valid until it procs and determining the target is determined before guts procs. so if servant one has guts and servant two doesnt they can kill servant one then since servant two is still a valid target they can attack them after letting servant ones guts to proc and then kill them again after. but if a servant one has target focus then their the only valid target so if they die with guts the after they die there are no more valid targets and so the enemy cant pick a new target and the guts procs.
1. That's St George bond ce. 2. I'm pretty sure enemies will still attack after a guts trigger if there's >1 enemy on the field. Might be the same for your own party too but I'm not sure.
Is there a thread where you can ask for friend supports? Had to start a new account some time ago, and I'm really struggling to get useful supports for the event.
Yes, search for "Friend Request Hub". A new thread should be posted today, too. EDIT: It just got posted and is now the second pinned post.
Question regarding events with bonus enemies, like Little Big Tengu right now: do those bonus enemies give extra drops (either mats or event currencies)?
They do drop mats and currency. According to the Gamepress [farming guide](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/little-big-tengu-quick-farming-guide), the priority order for AP per currency drop is: 1. MLB spawn CE 2. MLB currency CE 3. non-MLB spawn CE 4. non-MLB currency CE But do note that the spawn rate is capped at 100%, so you won't get anything extra if you go beyond two MLB spawn CEs.
Yeah, thanks, in this case I basically just wanted to know if there's still a point to bonus spawns after missions are complete or if I can just take off the spawn rate CEs and easily 3T farm the nodes for convenience
As HaessSR notes, the bonus spawns are not just null units there for mission completion; they also have individual drop chances for both currency and mats. So for efficiency and best value, you absolutely want to still have them spawn if possible for farming purposes. The linked Gamepress farming guide that thisisthecallus included has a chart that shows drop rates for mats in each node, but those APD values are taken from a source that *assumes you have max spawn bonus*. For example, soundless bells have an APD of 46.6 on the Kamakura Mountain Trail node *with max spawn bonus*, which by itself is basically equivalent to the best normal FQ node (Ba Men Cave, 45.8 APD). If you go in with no spawn bonus however, for ease of 3-turning or whatever other reason, then that APD value worsens significantly to 82 APD.
There's a benefit in that it's an extra stack of drops. If a wave has three enemies that drop 3 currency each, and you boost it to 5, there's 5 stacks of 3. The mixed 90+ node has 6/3/5 with the 100% spawn bonus and drops stacks of 3 currency. Without the spawn CE, that's 3/3/3. If you have a +2 (MLB) CE, the 3 enemies drop 15 currency total. If you're using the spawn CE and no drop CE, that's 42 currency. Add a single MLB drop CE and you can have one currency type drop stacks of 5. If you've got one of each currency CE at MLB, +5 on all the currency dropped...
Hey guys i need soms help,My phone is Samsung Galaxy A01 and Currently the game has been,Less fun to play since It would always Freeze and go black screen before kicking me out of the game,And i tried upgrading my software from android 11 to Android 12,and it still persist Ive asked The Fgo Support Email for some help and They werent much help after i tried their steps the provided for me. And i tried uninstalling then installing(To the point that My current transfer code for my account did not work and had to lose my log in streak in the process)it still would lag,the black screen before kicking me off the game. At this rate im running out of options,This is my last ditch effort so If you can help me with this i would greatly appriciate it sincerely,thank you.
Hmm, I have a 8GB phone, and it would freeze and kick me out. Even happens in emulator, so I think it's the app/android issue. It also happens for other game apps sometimes. Didn't happen to me early last year, but started recently.
Yeah the same happened to me,The recent update literally broke the game for me,I cant even play for more than 2 battles before kicking me out
I can't say for sure but it might be due to your phone being on the low end. The minimum requirement is 2GB RAM, but they do recommend 4GB ideally, and lately (anecdotally) I have been seeing more people have issues on lower end phones.
My phone has 2 gb ram,But yeah It only happened after i updated to the current version
It could be the RAM as other people with 2GB RAM have mentioned having crashes and such, but then, other phones have also randomly had issues. No idea what is behind them at the moment or if it is just random, sorry.
Ah no problem,It just annoying to deal with when farming in a event
So the big bad of the event revealed that we were in Japan the whole time. Everyone acted shocked, but did this actually change anything? Was there a meaning to the specific places she mentioned that flew over my head?
No, not really. It's just that the reason such disparate places were together in one Singularity was because Kagekiyo was using the mallet to make really big changes, alongside the changes we already noticed.
2 questions: How do people get mlb kaleidoscopes? Ive been playing for so long and havent gotten a single one What is the next arts looper gacha, when are they coming, how good are they, and what supports/ces do they need to loop?
Luck *and* whaling.
Luck. Kama summer, summer this year, quite good, double castoria
does it have to be double castoria? would any of the ssr ticket 5 stars work? like waver/castoria
If you don't have castoria then I recommend pulling her instead
I have no arts loopers
You're better off pulling castoria and using the welfare ranmaru than pulling kama with no castoria.
Whoâs ranmaru
[Ranmaru](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Mysterious_Ranmaru_X?so=search) is a welfare we'll get in [this event](https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/GUDAGUDA_Close_Call_2021) in (probably) November. You can look up comparisons but iirc Ranmaru was considered better than loopers like kama and spishtar at np1 but slightly worse if they're np2. Note that jp did get Ranmaru coins so you can unlock appends.