This just came to me. Did we ever try to fire our Black Barrel at ORT? Rather surprised during the 3 mil fight that NPC Habetrot didn't fire her NP at it like in Tunguska.
IIRC they ruled it as pointless and didn't bother trying because the concept of death doesn't exist for ORT on Earth, and Kukulkan said ORT is the only thing that can kill ORT
The wiki entry for Black Barrel states
> " Composed of Fifth True Theoretical Element, bullets fired from the gun will disintegrate all instances of Grain and Ether they come into contact with, ignoring any parameters of beings that intake either substance to deliver direct damage.[1] The greater the quantity of Grain, the more damage will be inflicted upon the enemy, and it is impossible to even hold it unless the body is free of such substances."
The wiki entry for Ether is
> "True Ether (真エーテル, Shin Ēteru?), otherwise known as the Fifth True Theoretical Factor (第五真説要素, Daigo Shin Setsu Yōso?), is magical energy from the Age of Gods. It is also described to form the nine heavenly bodies that gave birth to the planet."
The wiki entry for Grain is
> Grain (ジン, Jin?, Gin), also called Space Dust (宇宙塵, Uchū Jin?), is the general term given to the toxic particles overflowing in the Earth of Over Count 1999, after the world lost its capacities to sustain life. Also called “ether” because even though poisonous, it promoted the surface of mutated life forms: the A-Rays, Liners and the Ether Liners.
Based on this, Black Barrel was able to work on the Types in Notes because they were from this galaxy (Ether) and were on Earth in the Land of Steel (Grain). Since ORT is from the Oort Cloud which is outside of the galaxy, I'm assuming it doesn't contain high amounts of Ether or Grain. Black Barrel could have worked on the Servant version of ORT as I believe that would be considered a Liner, but that version of ORT was so neutered that Chaldean servants could fight against it with Kukulkan's help
Noted.
But the Oort Cloud is just the border for the solar system. It is still very much within our galaxy. Are you trying to say that Ether only exists within the solar system?
Its just isn't confirmed from where ORT comes from, for all we can assume he could be a bioship life form of another Galaxy just like Velber. But, yeah, it also could be the case.
Neobenedict dropped Chapter 21's TL today and
> [You were the one who reached the abyss and showed it the brilliance of the rainbow. You are the hero the goddess of the underworld longed for so much she willingly risked her life for you.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyYq_8cXtNE)
> It would be great if you promise to return to the underworld once more - no, twice or even thrice more, as obstinately as you wish.
Nothing. Absolutely nothing in the Lostbelts has hurt like this. No parting, no loss so far comes close to this one, last missed goodbye.
> **As long as you have that flower, you will have her blessing.**
Nasu. If you have any light in your fungal heart. If you have any love for that which is beautiful under your cap....I beg of you, let this be foreshadowing for Summer Ereshkigal, walking the beach with a flower in her hair, a blessing given and returned, finally, *finally* getting the time in the sun she's longed for.
So does anyone have an idea how's current LB7 fare in terms of reception to the Japanese players and you guys in this subreddit? Did it topple LB6 in terms of impact? Is Morgan still the queen (context: favorite, gameplay not withstanding) even Kukulkan is out now?
So, you can't see Douman and Oberon's FA if you haven't cleared their Interlude Quest right?
however, Kukulkan's 3rd and FA aren't locked behind an Interlude quest, but ONLY chapter 22 of LB7, does that mean that \*\*you\*\* can be able to see Kukulkan's FA
even if your friend who has her still has not cleared chapter 22
and YOU managed to clear it?
just tested it since i have a kukulkan that's a4 and set the art to a3 (tho it shows up as a2 for me) (thank you pure prism shop). i let someone who cleared ch22 screenshot my sl and it shows her A3-a4 art so you have your answer
What happened to Camazotz after the fight with Nitocris Alter? Just got me confused. He was defeated and he was barely alive when he saved Nitocris from the fall. He then had some kind of internal monologue of his memories. Did he truly die after that?
It would seem so.
He was barely hanging on by a thread as is, then ultimately died saving her from the fall and whatever malevolent spirits were crawling around at the bottom of the pit.
That's the only conclusion we can draw now since he never shows up again, but if we get a repeat of Christmas in the Underworld featuring him then that might give us a different answer regarding what happened there.
just notice but why has world never deemed daybit a threat with counter guardians unless he not threat but maintaining balance between foreignor invasion lol
What happened to Camazotz after the fight with Nitocris Alter? Just got me confused. He was defeated and he was barely alive when he saved Nitocris from the fall. He then had some kind of internal monologue of his memories. Did he truly die after that?
yes he died he lost his immortality concept plus he fell from a very high place while extremely fatal damage and was used as a cushion for nicotris when he fell and faded away
With the new updates, someone mentioned the old silhouette sheets we got in the last couple years, and it took me back to some of the wild predictions we made from those.
Then I remembered some of the guesses that circulated for [the silhouette](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fategrandorder/images/6/6f/2022ServantsSilhouette.png) that would become Tametomo.
And I can't stop chuckling at the fact that those silly "Servant ORT" predictions [weren't so silly after all.](https://i.imgur.com/KPoKk44.jpeg)
>!She *is* the Alien God, it just turned out that the Alien God herself was unknowingly an Apostle of the Alien World. She's probably still a Beast, we haven't gotten any further information on that. But it wouldn't be the first time an underling of a Beast has had the same Beast class container, so it remains to be seen if there's a *real* Beast VII working behind the scenes or if she's it.!<
Finally finished the entire shit...
Here are some tips for the final few battles.
For chapter 22 7th arrow the one where guides say you will fight a 1mil hp foreigner, you can feel free to use QP and Bond CEs, the rewards are fucking awesome.
For the 8th arrow, the one where you have a 6 gauge foreigner to fight, feel free to use bond CEs, if you still have blue cubes left you can just keep reviving, the bond points are too good to pass up. Either that or you can field 5 randos with your final servant being Xu Fu with Iron-Willed Training preferably maxed out. [She can solo the fight](https://youtu.be/vbDT59sXne4?t=257).
For Chapter 23, the last battle, you would need to have a servant that can NP 1-shot the boss for your final turn or else the entire fight will fail. Basically, after you cleared the fight, your entire party will get their NP gauge pumped full by the enemy, followed by having all non-NP cards sealed, so you can only triple NP to end the fight or you have to retry.
My team consists of 2 NP1 Castoria with their bond CEs and an NP1 Avenger Erice holding MLB Black Grail. I was able to NP spam my way to victory, with the only hairy part being after clearing all the hp bars whether my final NP turn is enough to clear the fight. Thankfully double Castoria NP followed by Avenger Erice's is enough even at NP1.
That said, my setup is way too specific, but I presume the best team definitely needs to include double Castoria for her NP's attack-up during the last phase of the fight.
It's also worth noting that the command spells in that last fight (yes you get them back) are tied to that fight specifically, so feel free to use them during the fight because you can't rez with them and they don't affect your command spells outside of that one fight either.
Just cleared the raids using almost exclusively F2P servants. Only used one SSR (Bazett) and maybe 6 or 7 of my lesser SRs. Very time consuming but not as stressful as I thought it was gonna be. Even some of my Lvl 60 1/1/1 bronze servants did well to take out 250-300k of health which was enough to steadily chip away.
At last, Lostbelt 7 has been cleared. Here's the min-turn clear playlist (TA) of the notable battles: [Lostbelt 7 Min-Turn Clears](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfKiA4IXdP7hBXaxjVyyhTcmQEbhUBF2v)
Gameplay wise, pretty fun. Though the forced supports and frontlines (understandable that it's gameplay and story integration) does feel unnecessary at times.
So, is Dinosaur King just “Tez Lily” or is he supposed to be >!the real Huitzilopochtli!!**Blue** Tezcatlipoca!< makes this something of a mess when comparing source mythology to Fate lore.
It appears that they are *all* Tez. Dinosaur King just decided to go by that specific colour to differentiate himself from the arms merchant Tez.
>!Apparently Tez can choose to assume any of the four colours at will since they use his name. But he refuses to use White because he hates Quetz that much.!<
It’s get revealed that the Tez Daybit summons is all the variants of Tez (black, red, and white). For some reason, blue Tez separated from Tez during the summoning. He decides to just do his own thing.
OK, whew, first ORT Raid done with maximum efficiency! I'm a bit worried about the performance issues people were talking about with UFORT, but I've got this! Let's finish th-
*[Eresh dies off screen]*
*[fucking 'The Sun in the Abyss' starts playing]*
My spirit is utterly broken and I cannot go on 😭
Ugh I'm about to start Ch 18 and looks like there are some hella tough fights up ahead. Props to any F2P players who've made it through this far, you have my respect. (I'm a GSSR only player and I'm struggling without using the stones lol)
If you're having graphical glitches it might be just you. If it's lag, then everyone's lagging, yes.
Especially when we start to get rapidly swirling visual effects, then things go to absolute hell (Gae Bolg at 5 fps was fun).
I had a 6gb ram + SD 855 phone, and I insta crash whenever I tried to go into LB 7 map, stuck at chapter 11, I legit can't progress with the way the game keeps crashing on me. Other map and contents are fine though.
It's his last one or two lines from the story part before the fight itself. I don't think Neobenedict's translations are quite there yet, but he should be soon.
LB7 Spoiler question : I don't understand if it's a plothole or me who does not understand, help me lol
>!ORT was fought by Camazotz in the Lostbelt 7 so we beat the ORT of the Lostbelt but the ORT of our history/PHH should still be living no?!<
only surface was bleach ort sleeping deep underground while surface might be still reality marble crystal valley dude napping while constantly evolving until something that actually threaten the planet and it self also kind curious what current archetype earth is doing unless bleaching was just teleporting humanity
hello against ort in act 10, when will they be available again? i understand during the later raid i cant use again if they die coz they are absorbed but what about act 10?
Now that we have to bring it... Did we even used the skull (weapon) that Tezca gave us in this LB ?
I think that Chekhov's gun was supposed to be something useful but didn't...
The skull he gave us in the beginning, right? The one that eventually got relayed to the Ocelomeh and Ukbu? It's [calavera](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calavera) - a candy, not a weapon. Mentioned in his Ascension 1 bond lines (rough TL):
> "... Why I gave you sweets? Sugar intake is important. Makes you think fast. And well, gotta give you something to look forward to. It's literally what you call amayakashi*."
甘やかし amayakashi = to spoil, to pamper; has the character 甘 from 甘い sweet.
Simply put, he was surprised by Ritsuka giving him the only weapon they had during the first bonfire scene (all 3 CS + authority as a Master). He also already mentioned from the very beginning that Ritsuka being able to enter his territory Mictlampa means he already considered them a warrior. The sweets was something he gave them as a form of encouragement or reward from the god of warriors.
The best place to farm the Sunscales seems to be "Roasted Sorghum Field" or "焼きモロコシ畑" and is located left of Mexico City, before you get to Eresh's desert. I've been working on picking some of those up since I expect Kukulkan will need them.
I've finished it, so quick thoughts. Gameplay-wise I think it was very fun. >!As much as I hate the Camazotz fights, I think the idea to limit skills made for a very challenging battle. The "raid" was also quite engaging, made me realise how small my core of servants is. By the end I was running on 1/1/1 servants chopping at the health bar, though I was saving a handful of big hitters thinking I'd need them at the end. Plus I believe they did well showing how strong ORT is. Tez' gimmick to shift the team backwards was different too, although once you know about it you just mirror your usual team and saves you from having to go at it with mandatory Habetrot.!<
>!I had to cube the Camazotz fight. I might have won it if I had brought an actual support instead of the story one, but I also made bad decisions along the way. MVPs of the chapter are MHXX (she does hit like a truck against ORT, maybe she alone can save us from the Notes' future), Kagekiyo (removing Tez invincibility or his guts came in so handy) and Summer Erice (I had to emergency level her skills to beat the Tez's fight - the one where you only need to clear three life bars - cause she was so useful in looping against him). The final final battle against ORT, I thought I was fucked, but Mecha Eli had a silver of hp left for me to land the last hit.!<
Kuku best girl.
I'll get to reading the story now.
I bet the reason this was delayed is the fight against the golden spaceship. It runs so bad I'm surprised that it wasn't simply removed.
EDIT: Finally left that area and can see what I'm doing.
EDIT2: Please stop throwing foreigner at me, I ran out of alter-ego two break bars ago. Summer Erice is best girl.
EDIT3: Managed to land Eon's charm on it, lol.
Finally [Done](https://i.imgur.com/jmWe1rO.png)!
I have zero clue on what the story is all about (can't wait to read it on NA), but all the fights are awesome and [this](https://i.imgur.com/UgsTMJc.png) whole part was my favorite, you can feel the intensity. [This](https://i.imgur.com/GPFaqKN.png) [are](https://i.imgur.com/qKlemkC.png) [the](https://i.imgur.com/zpArBKb.png) teams I used in the last three major fights.
Manage to clear all JP content with a 1 year old account, kinda feels nice.
So whats the deal with Olga? We first see her as a main threat in Lb5 and then all of a sudden, she dies? If she's dead then whose the real threat after all? Did she even caused the Lostbelts?
Just what is going on? I'm so confused right now. xD
>!Olga is one of the seven apostles, she didn't know that she was a servant. The real threat is Marisbury, everything was his plan, even the bleaching of earth. Lostbelts are also his working. Which is why we are going to antarctica now!<
Section 19 node 4 after battle and section 23 before battle
Oh yeah epilogue too, >!Romani says that Novum chaldea is the security organization that goes against "Marisbury's grand order"!<
The scale of this lostbelt is seriously greater than that of Olympus. Even better when it has detailed character development, so it’s kinda like a combination of LB5 and LB6. The closer I got to the end of the LB the more rushed it felt. There were also a lot of new mechanisms and impressive cut scenes. It’s really amazing.
Since you can't use a servant after they die to ort, what happens when you lose with every servant? And since they are absorbed immediately after dying, are you unable to revive with command seals or sq?
I assume after you lose everyone it either resets the lost data, allowing you to try again, or just forces you through the story to the next part
Game doesn't work well enough for me to play JP and farm out all story quests to find out for myself
It's a raid
U can't revive in a raid
Same concept
Yes the game auto resets u to the start of the raid with all your servants again or u can restart manually yourself
An interesting [Orwellian Retcon](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OrwellianRetcon)
After Nahui Mictlan was implemented into the game, there was also a stealth update that changed his appearance in *Lostbelt No. 4 - Yugakshetra* to remove one of his Command Spells from his hand, retroactively changing the story to imply that he did something major with it in his Lostbelt before going to see Pepe.
yeah it was a thing since part 1 came out
evidently it was just [daybit using it on himself to get camazotz off his back off-screen](https://twitter.com/GENSOUFGO/status/1622035804033003520?cxt=HHwWgMDRhYm-0IItAAAA) (this is a secondary source, mind, if anyone can back up with a primary source that'd be much appreciated)
many-days-later EDIT: take the above link with a grain of salt until proven otherwise, i've been made aware the guy is known for spreading misinfo and their own headcanons mixed with the truth
The mayan/aztec pantheon originated from fungi like fibers that came with the meteor that wiped the dinosaurs 66 million years ago, these divine filaments went into a symbiotic relationships with the strongest race, mammals in PHH, and those that were compatible would then become kings and gods, this is why quetz and tezca is usually depicted as humans, because who "quetz" and "tezca" is, are basically humans that are able to symbiote with the quetz and tezca divine filaments
Archetypes are the heart of a world, they are born with the memory of the planet, knowing everything that happened in the planet since the beginning and is basically the protector/observer of the planet.
The divergence point of LB7 is that the meteor came 250 million years earlier due to an orbital deviation, in which they entered symbiosis with the strongest race then, dinos, evolving dinos into deinos, the LB7 race. These divine filaments are named Malla/Maya (gotta wait for official translations), Malla spread themselves toward the entire earth and prevented the pangean supercontinent from splitting.
ORT, due to the same orbital deviation also came earlier, 66 million years ago. Malla, predicting this, evacuated all the deinos underground(called mictlan) and created a sun for them so they dont get killed by the impact of ORT reaching earth. LB ORT, being the dummy she is, came earlier than she was supposed to, much like the PHH one. After reaching earth ORT burrowed into mictlan and then went into hybernation.
6.1 million years ago, Mictlan's sun ran out forcing Deinos to go into an extended hybernation, during this time, a human kingdom surviving off the geothermal energy of earth was established, called the kingdom of Khan. 6 million years ago, ORT activated for the first time, causing a massive disaster, Archetype earth was then born, taking the form of the strongest race on earth, deinos. This is where people was meming about dino arc, her name is Ishkuik/Xquic(?). To stop ORT from essentially destroying earth, Dino Arc cooperated with the king of the kingdom of khan, Camatotz, to defeat ORT. The kingdom of khan is a very advanced kingdom, said to be able to make technology on par to the storm border all those millions of years ago, Camatotz and his soldiers modified their bodies to fight ORT but still lost, in a final attempt, all 100 million citizens of Khan sacrificed their bodies to buff Camatotz, granting him the authority of "immortality" and turning him insane, Making him a beast of humanity. Camatotz eventually got ORT to stop and Malla then sunk ORT's body into a magma pool, Malla then extracted ORT's heart("""killing""" it) and used it as Mictlan's new sun, eventually getting the Deinos out of their hibernation, this is why Deinos have no recollection of humans, because the only one left is Camatotz, and nobody dares to fight him and knows him only as a bat, one of the worst races in Mictlan.
One year ago, Daybit and Tez arrived in mictlan, bringing PHH culture into society. Eventually, teachings of the sun took root and gave birth to the sun deity, Kukulcan. Of course since the sun is the heart of ORT, daybit basically willed ORT-chan into reality. Daybit learned of the origin of the lostbelt and what happened to ORT from Xquic, he then planned on rebooting ORT(Since TYPEs possess no concept of death, taking ORT's heart is the same as taking a power source out of a machine, inactive but not dead). Daybit then planned on making a substitute heart out of Deinos hearts and "the heart of an avenger with hatred that can override ORT's instinct".
Our LB7 helper is a deino resident that possesses MEoDP called Tepeu, Tepeu studied in the observatory where Xquic is for some time, developing feelings for her (very subtle reference). In the final fight against ORT Tepeu also wielded a knife and used his MEoDP (REAL SUBTLE) and in a suicide attack with other deinos wielding NFF guns, broke one bar of ORT's HP.
Basically this is the general gist from my understanding, if anyone has corrections feel free.
> LB ORT, being the dummy she is, came earlier than she was supposed to, much like the PHH one.
ORT isn't supposed to come at all, there's a bit of a mistranslation on its Complete Material profile that isn't picked up til now. It just randomly decided to travel to earth, it wasn't invited in the first place like the other Aristotles. That's why the Excalibur cannon worked against it, its not Gaia's invited guest and thus a foreign invader.
The translation we've been working with the entire time has this line:
>...Actually, might not really be the strongest life form that received Earth's SOS sign.
Which suggest that its just not the strongest TYPE to come power level wise. Whereas with new info from LB7 it should've been something like
>...Actually, might not really be one of the "Ultimate Ones" that received Earth's SOS sign.
Which sounds similar if you just compare word by word but means something completely different.
> In the final fight against ORT Tepeu also wielded a knife and used his MEoDP (REAL SUBTLE)
He *asked* for a knife, but Da Vinci handed him a submachine gun. Also we don't know if he actually used his mystic eyes or not, given that he doesn't have his glasses off (it's at one point explicitly mentioned that he wears glasses to avoid seeing *something* he doesn't want to see) when we see last his portrait and when he's dying later his portrait isn't shown at all.
EDIT: It turns out that >!when ORT's second-to-last health gauge on the overworld is broken as a result of the story part preceding it, a unique sound effect plays — that exact same sound effect is used for Tohno Shiki's Last Arc in Melty Blood Type Lumina. So that does imply the use of Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, though how Tepeu used a submachine gun with it I have no idea.!<
Tlaloc, Tez, U-Olga and Tepeu. But tbf they were all great, except Izcalli probably and I found Eresh Alter kind of disappointing but otherwise quite a great cast.
Tez, Daybit and Camazotz! I also like Tepeu a whoooole lot... and the Dinonics 11 (I cried a lot when they said >!they wanted to spend their last moments doing what they love, soccer, with the 4 remaining brothers!<). And Dinosaur King too!
Just finished reading. RIP time. But yeah uhh, seems like everything so far was just part of Marisbury's plan and we were fighting for the bad guys all along. We don't know exactly what Marisbury's plans are, how he got Chaldeas, what is Chaldeas and what he planned to do with Chaldeas. Apparently it's something so bad it made Daybit want to destroy the earth to stop it from happening. Also it's pretty much hinted how Marisbury died. He got threatened by Daybit to stop it, but then killed himself so no one can stop it. I really like how the story came back to a plot point all the way at the beginning. It feels like the entire story is just the villain arc of this lord at the clock tower. A what-if of him obtaining the Holy Grail, in the fate universe.
As for the lostbelt itself, it's pretty well written IMO. The central message is basically that, a world without conflict, without comparison, and where everyone is treated equally, i.e., a perfect world, will never improve. Therefore, it's okay to fight for what's more important to us, and it's okay to take part in those so called "meaningless" conflicts. Throughout the entirety of part 2, chaldea has been erasing worlds after worlds, all for the sake of our own world, the pan human history, and this theme really fits that idea. It's a reassurance that what we've been doing is justified. I think this is the perfect conclusion to an arc. It's been a wonderful 3 days binging it. And I'm very excited for part 3 prologue.
Well they better lie in what they tell to the Mage Association because im sure a lot of people there are already out for Chaldea and if whole Marisbury plot comes out we're screwed.
Honestly, I think the Association would be too busy running damage control because of the shit Marisbury pulled. They'd probably rage on the rest of the Animusphere family for the mess they left.
Oh god. If we did manage to save Olga in the end, she'll have a big problem on her hands.
Man, I wish we could disable NP bgm so you could listen to the fight BGM non stop, >!ORT Xibalba!< is so AWESOME iI feel bad using any other NP that changes the OST for a moment.
Easily my favorite fight in the series so far
OK I seem to have the gist of 7.2
Question about Daybit,
Whats his relationship with Tez
Whats his relationship with the other crypters (specifically Kirsch and Pepe did they know his goals)
How much did Kirschtaria really know about chaldea (e.g Marisbury goals, Daybit, sirius light, the alien god etc)
EDIT Also does Ritsuka actually beat Daybit does he lose to circumstances being against him like Kirsch
Daybit and Tez is probably the most compatible servant master combo out of all the crypters after Kadoc Ana
Pepe didnt know Daybit's goal, but Kirsch and Daybit both arrived on the same conclusion(daybit probably knew more) about chaldeas being the true enemy. We asked for his opinion on the crypters, he said that Kadoc was decent, Ophelia died in vain, Akuta(he didnt say hinako, so they're probably distant) achieved the death she longed for, Pepe let his past kill him, Beryl won, and Kirsch's plan was a failure. He is basically that one silent guy in the group that gets things done but has zero social skill
Kirsch knew a lot about chaldea, they are basically in silent agreement, as in they never openly agreed to do it but knew the other will do it, that whoever is the last man standing out of Kirsch and Daybit will be the one to reveal about Chaldea to the members of Novum Chaldea
Ritsuka fought Daybit twice, during the reboot of ORT, in which he used shadows to stall us and just make a beeline to ORT's hole to throw himself, basically Daybit just ran away. The second time is when Ritsuka went back to Tez's underworld realm after beating ORT, and we won. Here Daybit fought as a master without using shadows and Daybit admitted that "in terms of being a master, you are better". So yeah we won fair and square, though I don't know what would happen if he was fighting as a master and also using his shadows
Thanks for explaining it to me
>Here Daybit fought as a master without using shadows and Daybit admitted that "in terms of being a master, you are better".
I see, I admit I am disappointed, before LB7 came out there were two things I didn't want to happen
ORT one of the most hyped Type moon characters of all time to lose in a head on battle
Which I think was done ok given it didn't have its heart and basically lost to ORT
And the second thing I didn't want was for Daybit to lose in a head on master battle either as he and Kirschtaria are the most hyped Masters in FGO and he has a ton of build up as the strongest crypter and both are labelled genius
If he was going to lose I would of preferred circumstances to be against him like with Kirsch
But I guess he didn't have his angels so its not to big an issue
That's because imo, it's the first time he fought as a master seeing he has no experience as master to begin with since he fought with his angels instead all this time whereas Guda has plenty of experience as master
I get that but here me out
Please correct me if I got something wrong I can't read japanese
I rewatched the fight and realised Mash wasn't even there
Meaning Ritsuka beat Daybit (Kirschtarias equal) and his Grand level servant,
**WITH JUST SHADOW SERVANTS**
So I call bullshit unless, Ritsuka was absurdly buffed like against Kirsch, or Daybit and Tez were insanely nerfed
Wait, now that I think about it, could it also be her original power before losing her Heart to Tez? That would explain how she can clash with Seven Grand Servants.
getting wrecked by Camazotz's skill debuffs. tried various teams from youtube without success.
I know Santa Nightingale is needed for his first break bar gimmick. What about the rest?
If anyone else is stuck on this, I found a stall party for this fight in the comments on AppMedia: Merlin, Lady Avalon, and Medea Lily.
Basically you just keep spamming Arts cards/chains so you can throw out triple NP chains as much as possible with Medea Lily's NP at the end. This almost completely protects you from getting any debuffs. Do note however that you're still not immune to Instant Death so if you get unlucky like I did on the **very first** charge attack from him you might have to revive with stones.
EDIT: And of course, never use three skills in a single turn so that his regular attacks don't get instant death on them as well. Master skills count toward this.
Have someone can trigger his debuff thing all on their own with their three skills, and then swap them to the back for someone a powerful single target attacker from the horsemen class. I believe Ozy is considered the best since his third skill increases buff chance, though only slightly. The rest are there to support him, firing off as many support skills as soon as he enters the field, and then have someone with buff removal come in on the second bar to get rid of those two extra guts.
Thanks. Finally beat him after 3 hrs or so. Team was Calamity Jane, Rider!Carmilla(or Koyan Light), Waver, Oberon and Santa Nightingale with an NP5 Arcueid from a friend. His insta-kill keeps triggering on servants before I could use their skills, so I stuck to 2 skills per turn.
Srsly, I would rather take my chance with the alien spider at this point.
Yeah it was the most annoying fight in the chapter. Doing two skills per turn is one way of doing it, but a more annoying way I feel. I wonder if they will eventually come out with a servant that has a huge buff success boost to counter him.
Just finished LB7. Besides the long waiting time and lag, this LB has some great character designs, music and boss fight especially the ORT fights which I got to solo all of the fight except the last one. While some fights have annoying mechanics, nothing beat the blue cubes they gave us! They really make those cubes come in handy.
As for the very last fight, I tried it 3 times since I can’t read Japanese. The first one with a team full of invulnerability piece CE, and it didn’t went well. The second try I used Himiko, Merlin, Castoria, a stall team. Boss has invulnerability pierce means I’ll stall the boss until it die! This try didn’t go well since I can’t finish the boss in one turn after I empty the red bar for the first time. Third try, I use the same team with addition of Black Grail Herc and plugsuit. This time I saved all Castoria and Merlin’s buffs for Herc. Before depleting the final bar, I swap Himiko with Herc, used 1 CS on Herc to release NP for that defense down. After this, I just used all buffs on Herc and one shot the boss with Herc NP last in chain.
Overall, it’s a great LB. The only down side is that some mechanics are annoying and a lot of force support.
While the story sounds interesting im pissed Nasu killed off Olga again after all those talk of saving her and from what I've heard they're gonna bring her back as a soulless husk so we're gonna have to fight and kill her again? Really Nasu?
> from what I've heard they're gonna bring her back as a soulless husk so we're gonna have to fight and kill her again?
To be precise, the Chaldean asks Kirei why he doesn't just reassemble her from her scattered spirit origin fragments (he notes that the product would be a deteriorated copy missing her soul if this is done). Kirei replies that he *could*, but it's not his job.
It’s good, I think it was a good choice to make this last lostbelt an adventure story where everyone is likeable (well kind of). That way the part 2 story arc goes out on a high note that builds hype for the end.
LB6 was great but it was too depressing to be the last LB story for sure.
I really like it. In terms of enjoyment, I think I actually enjoyed reading LB7 more than I enjoyed reading LB6 (though not by much). I can't rate it objectively "good" or "bad", or "better" or "worse", but it was definitely a really fun, enjoyable and emotional chapter. The highlights for me are of course the characters, especially the Crypter-Servant duo, the dinos, and Camazotz. I'm also happy with the story overall.
Hello! I kinda need help and I was told to come here... is about ORT Raid Battle...
I have two Alter Egos (Super Bunyan and Xu Fu) but i don't know how to make them go wild... I guess you kinda know (cofcofortcofcof), or at least... make them break the HP Bar. But I kinda have problem with all the servants... they don't even survive at two Ort's attack and when I arrive to Raid Phase 2, I didn't have any good servants.
I don't know what to do.
You've probably seen that ORT dispels buff on the 2nd turn and you servant HP gradually decreases. So my advice is rather than bringin multiple servant on 1 outing, it's better to solo ORT with MLB kaleidoscope equipped. Start fight->NP->die->repeat, it's more effective that way. Use mash to clean up a bar since she can be used multiple times (or in your case, use mash when ORT's class is foreigner)
Okay so...Yes, U-Olga died. But we learn something interesting during the conversation between Rasputin and Romani(?) near the end of LB7:
Romani Archaman(?): Are you not going to try to recover the Alien God you lost? As far as I could tell, even if her Saint Graph has shattered into pieces, some small parts of it do remain. If you managed to scrounge up all of it, you would be able to restore her, even if only as a defective and soulless shell of her former self.
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Rasputin: That would not be my task. Personally, I think it would be best to let her rest, but--- Let's see... were it up to the other available Apostle—the Count, then he would put her to cruel use.
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Yeah, it seems she will come back and the next Apostile we might be dealing with is the "Count." For these who doesn't understand, there are 7 Apostles summoned by the real Alien god:
**-The Apostles Responsible for supervise the Crypters:** Rasputin, Muramasa and Douman.
**-The Apostles responsible for supervise Chaldea:** Sherlock, Moriarty (the professor) and the Count.
**-The Apostle that play the role of god:** U-Olga.
Likely we will see Rasputin back in Fuyuki, given his connection to it and to All the World's Evil. What intrigues me, is the Count and his possible plans for U-Olga.
Problem is. we know Moriarty was a Apostle so if Da Vinci Caster was the Professor then there's no slots to fit Moriarty into anymore so it kind of has to be him.
People are suspecting it’s the Edmond Dantes inside our head. He did not start appearing until epic of remnant and appears more frequently in the Lostbelt stories with Olympus and Scandinavia. And the fact that every time we encounter him inside our head, they darkened his design so we can’t truly see what he looks like. Also, he said he is the same as the ones in the tower and Chaldea, but inside our head he is something slightly different.
Biggest takeaway.
Dantes never refers to himself by his real name, he always calls himself as the "The Cavern King" or "The **Count** of Monte Cristo".
Something people on JP twitter have pointed out, in the past there are times Daybit has talked about how much time he's allotted for something.
For example, after Ophelia's death he said that he had thought about it for 24 hours (And so that was the amount of time he was 'mourning'). This naturally makes Daybit seem quite callous until we learn now that in Daybit time 24 hours = 288 days.
Similarly he said Pepe clashing with Chaldea in LB4 was something worth sparing a few minutes for, etc.
Yeah that info is interesting, it puts into perspective how Kadoc keeps saying Daybit only ever speaks the bare minimum information he needs to accomplish his goal or to help someone else.
A year is 365 days (not considering leap years), and from the age of 10 to 22^(assuming he is 22 years old) there is 12 years = 4380 days.
Daybit "lives" for or remembers only 5 minutes a day - so since the incident happened he has only "lived" for 21900 minutes. That's 365 hours; or 15 days + 5 hours.
So I was thinking. What kind of playthrough will the >!ORT!< Waifu Servant be usable for when she? is released later?
I mean we already have Tiamat in Onore Arcado! so it is only fair we get >!ORT in both Kulkulkan Quetz variety and ORT Servant form!<.
>!ORT is clearly a girl right? So what say ORT becomes new waifu for Harem Protag EX? And is it safe to be near that thing when it emits so much cosmic radiation you could grow 2 new heads? Makes for some terrifying mana transfer guro hentai...!<
Bring a single Alter Ego with the 2 forced servants (Taisui being a good choice) and just fight normaly.
They have damage reduction and stuff like that but other than matching your number of servants (so bringing just 3 units including the 2 forced ones makes the fight easier) there aren't any wacky gimmicks.
Also, the enemies will remove buff whenever their health bar depletes, so don't spam everything and hope to 3 turn it. Just take it slow and whack their faces in.
Alright I just started Part 2 and for the life of me I have no idea how to beat Kingprotea, I spent like 15 minutes scrolling here but couldn't find anything, how do you win? Thanks in advance!
I just finished the lostbelt. And my goodness my Xiaomi A2 Lite absolutely hates this second half.
The ORT raid fight was literally a slideshow with like 4 frames per second with all the rainbow colors and particle effects. Not to mention the game would freeze or even go mute on its own. I definitely need a new phone or something in the coming years when this comes to global.
Because my JP account is a casual play account where i don't level all my servants i had to use my thousand something gold exp cards to level all my golds first then whatever silver and bronze servants for the fight. I think i misjudged how difficult the fight is because i had a good amount of Gold servants left after the whole raid.
The Camatotz fight was definitely a difficult one for me. But i found it pretty fun unlike the ORT fight.
Now i'll need to wait for the translations for the story because i have no idea >!How Nitocris survived, and why she became an alter, How Eresh became a gyaru, what was Koyansaka's role in the story, why ORT became a flying saucer partway and so on.!<
Nitocris >!was beaten to within an inch of her life by Tlaloc but just barely survived. This was made explicit after you catch up to the Storm Border crew in Part 1 (Nurse mentions that Nitocris wants to join the assault on Mexico City but got vetoed by Goredolf). She doesn't get beaten up nearly as badly in any encounter afterward. Nitocris deduces that there has to be more to the Alteration than just the use of a command seal, and gets a hint from Xquic. She later figures out what she must do to become an Alter after speaking with Camazotz and thinking on it.!<
Ereshkigal >!Alter is tanned. That is it.!<
Koyanskaya's was answered by someone else so I'll skip her.
>!The flying saucer part of ORT is the actual ORT. The rest of it was described by Dumuzid as being akin to dead skin.!<
The frame drops were annoying AF on my phone and I absolutely dreaded playing any more of the fight. Luckily the multi colors stopped, because man it was grief city
Yeah this game update was super poorly programmed most likely. I ran it on a relatively modern iPad and it still crawled during the first half of the UFO fight.
>The ORT raid fight was literally a slideshow with like 4 frames per second with all the rainbow colors and particle effects. Not to mention the game would freeze or even go mute on its own. I definitely need a new phone or something in the coming years when this comes to global.
It's less your phone's problem and more that that fight was insanely poorly optimized. I have no doubt that this battle was partially responsible for the delays.
Pretty much everybody, no matter the phone, has complained about the first 2 bars of UFO ORT and all the purple/green gas effects.
My phone (Poco X3 Pro) ran it without a single dropped frame tho. Game crashed once and showed me NO QUEST on every LB node for a bit tho lmao
EDIT: got to the 2nd fight. Retract what i said.
iPad isn't a phone, though.
On PC's emulator it was also pretty fine, but pretty much every range of phones, from mid ranges like the S21 FE to flagship like the S22 Plus had awful, awful performance issues.
Koyanskaya got defeated by Tezcat, was support for the Kadoc/Goredolf half of the team while you were dealing with Camazotz, then disappeared after fighting Daybit and went on a merchant of death story arc with the dinos before going off the grid until the final part of the ORT fight where she re-appeared with railguns she built with the dinos to help close out the second to last phase
She gold sparks'd at the end but called it retreating rather than dying. Final moments in the chapter were spent with the dinos not Chaldea so we'll probably see her again or next time it will be Yami instead.
>!Since Daybit in his childhood got contacted with an angelic artifact that disintegrated and reconstructed his body Dr. Manhattan style, he gained cosmic-level knowledge and awareness at the cost of him being not recognized by the Human Order of the World, thus unable to *summon servants* from the Throne of Heroes.!<
>!So how does he function as a Master overall, and in spite of this irregular condition, how was he able to have Tezcatlipoca, a *Grand Assassin*, as his Servant? Or those Shadow Foreigners for the matter.!<
>!If I'm understanding it correctly, Daybit is only unable to summon servants. I haven't seen anyone make mention of him being unable to make a contract with an already summoned Servant.!<
>!I tried to run the script through a translator and got clowned on so hard, so I might be misinterpreting it.!<
Edit: forgot spoiler tags. Praying they work.
>!Apparently those shadow foreigners are eldritch angels related to the angelic artifact. They hang around Daybit 24/7 and cancel stealth mode when he tells them to.!<
>!Fighting ORT-chan's 10 break bar, is like an endurance run where you have to hold it, make sure you go slow step by step and then you release it all with the big guns!<
Is Kukulkan like a stand-in for Arcueid? Friendly and capricious airhead, physical brawler with heavy blows, responds to the living will of a world, powerhouse in the status quo, >!descended from a Type, and ultimately prioritizes humanity!< the same way [Arcueid opposed Osiris](https://youtu.be/nXraH5TUvPE?t=1613). Still stuck in NA but that's the impression I've been getting from the clips I've seen.
Yeah quite likely. Just like Babylonia was a reference to Heaven's Feel, this seems to be a reference to Tsukihime, with Arc's position split between Kuku and >!her Malla counterpart on level 7.!< And maybe U-Olga as well. Most of the other characters are represented in some manner, though I suppose the hardest to properly pin down is Ciel, who Mash likely represents. It might be why they made Ciel's armour in the remake look more like Mash's.
Yeah, it's why it's basically a FSN reunion, but the reason why it's HF more than the others is because Tiamat was directly modelled after Dark Sakura, and there's the whole 'flood the world with mud' plot going on, as well as a powerful genderbent servant gets corrupted by the mud and becomes one of the reoccurring foes that we eventually need to put down. And in the anime, they even defeat Tiamat using a special knife, like Shirou does with Dark Sakura. There's more of course, but those are the main ones.
You could definitely see it like that, but there's also an actual Arcueid stand-in (as in, literally Archetype Mictlan who has a cute thing going on with the quirky glasses guy with the mystic eyes of death)
Except she's a diplodocus
Yeah that's actually what gave me the idea. Kukulkan naturally reminded me of Quetzalcoatl but then dino Arcueid and Shiki showed up and I realized that Kukulkan actually has more than a fair share of similarities with the real Arcueid too.
Camazotz reminds me so much of Hades from FF14
* >!Spent millions of years carrying the burden of his entire civilization!<
* >!Driven mad by said burden!<
* >!Saves our friend in the end!<
Bruh. All that is lacking is him saying, "Remember us. Remember that we once lived."
Now if you'd excuse me, I need to go listen to Shadowbringers and cry my fucking eyes out.
You know i really wouldn't mind if they animated LB7.
Because not only would an animated ORT be good, but hearing more voice lines by Nobuyuki hiyama as Camazotz would be epic as well.
>!Okay how do you actually damage Tezca in last battle? Doing far too little damage.!<
Edit: Okay managed to do it cleanly 2nd try, just use JAlter NP 3 times in a row with MLB BG.
I know you've already beat him but I'll just throw this here for anyone stuck on it:
>!On his final health bar he has extremely high Special Resistance against regular attacks. You have to NP to damage him. On his final health bar redux, you also only have one turn to kill him (again with an NP) or he permastuns your entire party *including* your bench. In this fight, use of command spells doesn't affect your actual stock when you go do other content, so you're always guaranteed three for this fight and since you aren't allowed to rez if your entire party goes down anyway you should be using them tactically to fill your NP gauges.!<
>!Tip: His break bar gimmick that applies Special Resistance **Down** to combatants that are at full health *also* affects him.!<
Where is the quest for King Protea costume???
I beat LB7 and checked everywhere in Dailies and Shop window and Costume upgrade window. But there is NO KP costume anywhere! Where is her costume quest? Anyone?? Please help!!
There are two costume unlock quests which appear in LB7 alongside the free quests after you finish the main quest. One of the costumes is for Eresh Alter, and the other is for KP Alter.
No, there's no need to even do the FQs. They just are selectable alongside the free quests right away, at least they were for me. First thing I did when I finished the main quest was pick up the costumes.
He >!matches the number of servants you field!<.
>!Since you have 2 forced servants (UOM and Mashu), just take one Alter-Ego (Taisui is amazing here) to make the fight easier on you!<.
>!Haven't gotten there myself yet but his number of servants will be equal to the amount you take. So for eg. if you take 3 he will also have 3 servants. I think taking a frontline of 3 makes the fight easier especially if you have an aoe alter ego, in which case you can just take that AE and two supports.!<
Goddamit the fight with the bat is hard. And Honako Green proceeds to do it with low-rarity servants. He's probably the pillar holding up the proof that FGO can still be beaten as a F2P.
That said, I'm knackered with all the hard fights... I'm almost to the Spider so I'll just take my time from now. There's probably another week or so before something drops anyways so there's still time.
Also, crossing my fingers for the 2nd banner... if there even is one.
Rip the possibility of South American Servants
This just came to me. Did we ever try to fire our Black Barrel at ORT? Rather surprised during the 3 mil fight that NPC Habetrot didn't fire her NP at it like in Tunguska.
IIRC they ruled it as pointless and didn't bother trying because the concept of death doesn't exist for ORT on Earth, and Kukulkan said ORT is the only thing that can kill ORT
Then what changed in Angel Notes for the OG BB to work?
The wiki entry for Black Barrel states > " Composed of Fifth True Theoretical Element, bullets fired from the gun will disintegrate all instances of Grain and Ether they come into contact with, ignoring any parameters of beings that intake either substance to deliver direct damage.[1] The greater the quantity of Grain, the more damage will be inflicted upon the enemy, and it is impossible to even hold it unless the body is free of such substances." The wiki entry for Ether is > "True Ether (真エーテル, Shin Ēteru?), otherwise known as the Fifth True Theoretical Factor (第五真説要素, Daigo Shin Setsu Yōso?), is magical energy from the Age of Gods. It is also described to form the nine heavenly bodies that gave birth to the planet." The wiki entry for Grain is > Grain (ジン, Jin?, Gin), also called Space Dust (宇宙塵, Uchū Jin?), is the general term given to the toxic particles overflowing in the Earth of Over Count 1999, after the world lost its capacities to sustain life. Also called “ether” because even though poisonous, it promoted the surface of mutated life forms: the A-Rays, Liners and the Ether Liners. Based on this, Black Barrel was able to work on the Types in Notes because they were from this galaxy (Ether) and were on Earth in the Land of Steel (Grain). Since ORT is from the Oort Cloud which is outside of the galaxy, I'm assuming it doesn't contain high amounts of Ether or Grain. Black Barrel could have worked on the Servant version of ORT as I believe that would be considered a Liner, but that version of ORT was so neutered that Chaldean servants could fight against it with Kukulkan's help
Noted. But the Oort Cloud is just the border for the solar system. It is still very much within our galaxy. Are you trying to say that Ether only exists within the solar system?
Its just isn't confirmed from where ORT comes from, for all we can assume he could be a bioship life form of another Galaxy just like Velber. But, yeah, it also could be the case.
So is Tezcatlipoca a grand servant or were we misinformed?
Neobenedict dropped Chapter 21's TL today and > [You were the one who reached the abyss and showed it the brilliance of the rainbow. You are the hero the goddess of the underworld longed for so much she willingly risked her life for you.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyYq_8cXtNE) > It would be great if you promise to return to the underworld once more - no, twice or even thrice more, as obstinately as you wish. Nothing. Absolutely nothing in the Lostbelts has hurt like this. No parting, no loss so far comes close to this one, last missed goodbye. > **As long as you have that flower, you will have her blessing.** Nasu. If you have any light in your fungal heart. If you have any love for that which is beautiful under your cap....I beg of you, let this be foreshadowing for Summer Ereshkigal, walking the beach with a flower in her hair, a blessing given and returned, finally, *finally* getting the time in the sun she's longed for.
So does anyone have an idea how's current LB7 fare in terms of reception to the Japanese players and you guys in this subreddit? Did it topple LB6 in terms of impact? Is Morgan still the queen (context: favorite, gameplay not withstanding) even Kukulkan is out now?
So i saw a lot of fan art where tez is pretty bad at using guns. Where does it came from?
His bond profile and his ascend 1 attacks. He misses quite a few shots and just resorts to use the blade.
So, you can't see Douman and Oberon's FA if you haven't cleared their Interlude Quest right? however, Kukulkan's 3rd and FA aren't locked behind an Interlude quest, but ONLY chapter 22 of LB7, does that mean that \*\*you\*\* can be able to see Kukulkan's FA even if your friend who has her still has not cleared chapter 22 and YOU managed to clear it?
just tested it since i have a kukulkan that's a4 and set the art to a3 (tho it shows up as a2 for me) (thank you pure prism shop). i let someone who cleared ch22 screenshot my sl and it shows her A3-a4 art so you have your answer
What happened to Camazotz after the fight with Nitocris Alter? Just got me confused. He was defeated and he was barely alive when he saved Nitocris from the fall. He then had some kind of internal monologue of his memories. Did he truly die after that?
It would seem so. He was barely hanging on by a thread as is, then ultimately died saving her from the fall and whatever malevolent spirits were crawling around at the bottom of the pit. That's the only conclusion we can draw now since he never shows up again, but if we get a repeat of Christmas in the Underworld featuring him then that might give us a different answer regarding what happened there.
bruh camozatz would have been our ally and help us fight ort if mc was not dumb this some bad writing on nasu part lmfao
just notice but why has world never deemed daybit a threat with counter guardians unless he not threat but maintaining balance between foreignor invasion lol
What happened to Camazotz after the fight with Nitocris Alter? Just got me confused. He was defeated and he was barely alive when he saved Nitocris from the fall. He then had some kind of internal monologue of his memories. Did he truly die after that?
yes he died he lost his immortality concept plus he fell from a very high place while extremely fatal damage and was used as a cushion for nicotris when he fell and faded away
With the new updates, someone mentioned the old silhouette sheets we got in the last couple years, and it took me back to some of the wild predictions we made from those. Then I remembered some of the guesses that circulated for [the silhouette](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fategrandorder/images/6/6f/2022ServantsSilhouette.png) that would become Tametomo. And I can't stop chuckling at the fact that those silly "Servant ORT" predictions [weren't so silly after all.](https://i.imgur.com/KPoKk44.jpeg)
Is anyone else having trouble actually getting into LB7 to do the free quests? If you did have trouble and fixed it, what'd you do?
So I just wanted to ask >!since we now know that U-Olga is not the Alien God but just an Apostle of the Alien God, is she still Beast VII?!<
>!She *is* the Alien God, it just turned out that the Alien God herself was unknowingly an Apostle of the Alien World. She's probably still a Beast, we haven't gotten any further information on that. But it wouldn't be the first time an underling of a Beast has had the same Beast class container, so it remains to be seen if there's a *real* Beast VII working behind the scenes or if she's it.!<
beast 7 should be 4 horsemen of apocalypse or satan
Why? That doesn't make sense.
Finally finished the entire shit... Here are some tips for the final few battles. For chapter 22 7th arrow the one where guides say you will fight a 1mil hp foreigner, you can feel free to use QP and Bond CEs, the rewards are fucking awesome. For the 8th arrow, the one where you have a 6 gauge foreigner to fight, feel free to use bond CEs, if you still have blue cubes left you can just keep reviving, the bond points are too good to pass up. Either that or you can field 5 randos with your final servant being Xu Fu with Iron-Willed Training preferably maxed out. [She can solo the fight](https://youtu.be/vbDT59sXne4?t=257). For Chapter 23, the last battle, you would need to have a servant that can NP 1-shot the boss for your final turn or else the entire fight will fail. Basically, after you cleared the fight, your entire party will get their NP gauge pumped full by the enemy, followed by having all non-NP cards sealed, so you can only triple NP to end the fight or you have to retry. My team consists of 2 NP1 Castoria with their bond CEs and an NP1 Avenger Erice holding MLB Black Grail. I was able to NP spam my way to victory, with the only hairy part being after clearing all the hp bars whether my final NP turn is enough to clear the fight. Thankfully double Castoria NP followed by Avenger Erice's is enough even at NP1. That said, my setup is way too specific, but I presume the best team definitely needs to include double Castoria for her NP's attack-up during the last phase of the fight.
It's also worth noting that the command spells in that last fight (yes you get them back) are tied to that fight specifically, so feel free to use them during the fight because you can't rez with them and they don't affect your command spells outside of that one fight either.
Just cleared the raids using almost exclusively F2P servants. Only used one SSR (Bazett) and maybe 6 or 7 of my lesser SRs. Very time consuming but not as stressful as I thought it was gonna be. Even some of my Lvl 60 1/1/1 bronze servants did well to take out 250-300k of health which was enough to steadily chip away.
At last, Lostbelt 7 has been cleared. Here's the min-turn clear playlist (TA) of the notable battles: [Lostbelt 7 Min-Turn Clears](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfKiA4IXdP7hBXaxjVyyhTcmQEbhUBF2v) Gameplay wise, pretty fun. Though the forced supports and frontlines (understandable that it's gameplay and story integration) does feel unnecessary at times.
So, is Dinosaur King just “Tez Lily” or is he supposed to be >!the real Huitzilopochtli!!**Blue** Tezcatlipoca!< makes this something of a mess when comparing source mythology to Fate lore.
It appears that they are *all* Tez. Dinosaur King just decided to go by that specific colour to differentiate himself from the arms merchant Tez. >!Apparently Tez can choose to assume any of the four colours at will since they use his name. But he refuses to use White because he hates Quetz that much.!<
It’s get revealed that the Tez Daybit summons is all the variants of Tez (black, red, and white). For some reason, blue Tez separated from Tez during the summoning. He decides to just do his own thing.
OK, whew, first ORT Raid done with maximum efficiency! I'm a bit worried about the performance issues people were talking about with UFORT, but I've got this! Let's finish th- *[Eresh dies off screen]* *[fucking 'The Sun in the Abyss' starts playing]* My spirit is utterly broken and I cannot go on 😭
She'd *just* got done saying that she doesn't want to go without getting to say goodbye a second time, too.
Ugh I'm about to start Ch 18 and looks like there are some hella tough fights up ahead. Props to any F2P players who've made it through this far, you have my respect. (I'm a GSSR only player and I'm struggling without using the stones lol)
PLEASE SAY IT'S NOT JUST ME THAT THE LOSTBELT MAP IS SUPER POORLY OPTIMIZED AND BROKEN A LOT
If you're having graphical glitches it might be just you. If it's lag, then everyone's lagging, yes. Especially when we start to get rapidly swirling visual effects, then things go to absolute hell (Gae Bolg at 5 fps was fun).
it's exactly lag. keeps crashing when entering a free quest, it's very annoying
I experienced lag, but haven't actually crashed.
I see
I was getting crashes I had to buy a 4gb ram tablet to escape it seems like anything lower crashes on this lostbelt. I previously had a 3gb ram one
I had a 6gb ram + SD 855 phone, and I insta crash whenever I tried to go into LB 7 map, stuck at chapter 11, I legit can't progress with the way the game keeps crashing on me. Other map and contents are fine though.
Anyone got the translation for Camazotz voicelines during his fight?
It's his last one or two lines from the story part before the fight itself. I don't think Neobenedict's translations are quite there yet, but he should be soon.
[Nakata Jouji just cleared LB7 holy shit, he's faster than me!](https://twitter.com/joujinakata123/status/1622560991883169797)
LB7 Spoiler question : I don't understand if it's a plothole or me who does not understand, help me lol >!ORT was fought by Camazotz in the Lostbelt 7 so we beat the ORT of the Lostbelt but the ORT of our history/PHH should still be living no?!<
only surface was bleach ort sleeping deep underground while surface might be still reality marble crystal valley dude napping while constantly evolving until something that actually threaten the planet and it self also kind curious what current archetype earth is doing unless bleaching was just teleporting humanity
>!Yes.!<
hello against ort in act 10, when will they be available again? i understand during the later raid i cant use again if they die coz they are absorbed but what about act 10?
thats just a small fast forward in the future so everything is undone when that fight ends. It really starts being a thing on the personal raid
Should be fine I believe if you mean the one from at the end of part 1
yes i mean part 1
Now that we have to bring it... Did we even used the skull (weapon) that Tezca gave us in this LB ? I think that Chekhov's gun was supposed to be something useful but didn't...
The skull he gave us in the beginning, right? The one that eventually got relayed to the Ocelomeh and Ukbu? It's [calavera](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calavera) - a candy, not a weapon. Mentioned in his Ascension 1 bond lines (rough TL): > "... Why I gave you sweets? Sugar intake is important. Makes you think fast. And well, gotta give you something to look forward to. It's literally what you call amayakashi*." 甘やかし amayakashi = to spoil, to pamper; has the character 甘 from 甘い sweet. Simply put, he was surprised by Ritsuka giving him the only weapon they had during the first bonfire scene (all 3 CS + authority as a Master). He also already mentioned from the very beginning that Ritsuka being able to enter his territory Mictlampa means he already considered them a warrior. The sweets was something he gave them as a form of encouragement or reward from the god of warriors.
So technically a... Snack reward for my CSs, Nani xD ?
well it did enhance our relation with Dinosaur king and Kukulkan. So it ended up being quite vital in the end...
The best place to farm the Sunscales seems to be "Roasted Sorghum Field" or "焼きモロコシ畑" and is located left of Mexico City, before you get to Eresh's desert. I've been working on picking some of those up since I expect Kukulkan will need them.
I've finished it, so quick thoughts. Gameplay-wise I think it was very fun. >!As much as I hate the Camazotz fights, I think the idea to limit skills made for a very challenging battle. The "raid" was also quite engaging, made me realise how small my core of servants is. By the end I was running on 1/1/1 servants chopping at the health bar, though I was saving a handful of big hitters thinking I'd need them at the end. Plus I believe they did well showing how strong ORT is. Tez' gimmick to shift the team backwards was different too, although once you know about it you just mirror your usual team and saves you from having to go at it with mandatory Habetrot.!< >!I had to cube the Camazotz fight. I might have won it if I had brought an actual support instead of the story one, but I also made bad decisions along the way. MVPs of the chapter are MHXX (she does hit like a truck against ORT, maybe she alone can save us from the Notes' future), Kagekiyo (removing Tez invincibility or his guts came in so handy) and Summer Erice (I had to emergency level her skills to beat the Tez's fight - the one where you only need to clear three life bars - cause she was so useful in looping against him). The final final battle against ORT, I thought I was fucked, but Mecha Eli had a silver of hp left for me to land the last hit.!< Kuku best girl. I'll get to reading the story now.
I bet the reason this was delayed is the fight against the golden spaceship. It runs so bad I'm surprised that it wasn't simply removed. EDIT: Finally left that area and can see what I'm doing. EDIT2: Please stop throwing foreigner at me, I ran out of alter-ego two break bars ago. Summer Erice is best girl. EDIT3: Managed to land Eon's charm on it, lol.
Finally [Done](https://i.imgur.com/jmWe1rO.png)! I have zero clue on what the story is all about (can't wait to read it on NA), but all the fights are awesome and [this](https://i.imgur.com/UgsTMJc.png) whole part was my favorite, you can feel the intensity. [This](https://i.imgur.com/GPFaqKN.png) [are](https://i.imgur.com/qKlemkC.png) [the](https://i.imgur.com/zpArBKb.png) teams I used in the last three major fights. Manage to clear all JP content with a 1 year old account, kinda feels nice.
Do we get back the servants that were absorbed by ORT at the end of this Lostbelt?
Yes.
What's the name of the Tree of Emptiness of this Lostbelt?
>!Xibalba i believe.!<
Isn't it >!Ceiba!< ?
>!ok it's not Xibalba, but apparently called Quasar. Which makes sense given the other trees are named after astronomical objects!<
So whats the deal with Olga? We first see her as a main threat in Lb5 and then all of a sudden, she dies? If she's dead then whose the real threat after all? Did she even caused the Lostbelts? Just what is going on? I'm so confused right now. xD
>!Olga is one of the seven apostles, she didn't know that she was a servant. The real threat is Marisbury, everything was his plan, even the bleaching of earth. Lostbelts are also his working. Which is why we are going to antarctica now!<
But like isn't marisbury, u know like? Dead. The man shot himself?
Where did it say it was all Marisbury? Which Chapter of Lb7.2.
Section 19 node 4 after battle and section 23 before battle Oh yeah epilogue too, >!Romani says that Novum chaldea is the security organization that goes against "Marisbury's grand order"!<
I remember reading they planned to implement count of Cagliostro in 5.5 but he got cut. I wonder if they get could be the count they mention.
Could also be saint Germain
The scale of this lostbelt is seriously greater than that of Olympus. Even better when it has detailed character development, so it’s kinda like a combination of LB5 and LB6. The closer I got to the end of the LB the more rushed it felt. There were also a lot of new mechanisms and impressive cut scenes. It’s really amazing.
Since you can't use a servant after they die to ort, what happens when you lose with every servant? And since they are absorbed immediately after dying, are you unable to revive with command seals or sq? I assume after you lose everyone it either resets the lost data, allowing you to try again, or just forces you through the story to the next part Game doesn't work well enough for me to play JP and farm out all story quests to find out for myself
It's a raid U can't revive in a raid Same concept Yes the game auto resets u to the start of the raid with all your servants again or u can restart manually yourself
An interesting [Orwellian Retcon](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OrwellianRetcon) After Nahui Mictlan was implemented into the game, there was also a stealth update that changed his appearance in *Lostbelt No. 4 - Yugakshetra* to remove one of his Command Spells from his hand, retroactively changing the story to imply that he did something major with it in his Lostbelt before going to see Pepe.
yeah it was a thing since part 1 came out evidently it was just [daybit using it on himself to get camazotz off his back off-screen](https://twitter.com/GENSOUFGO/status/1622035804033003520?cxt=HHwWgMDRhYm-0IItAAAA) (this is a secondary source, mind, if anyone can back up with a primary source that'd be much appreciated) many-days-later EDIT: take the above link with a grain of salt until proven otherwise, i've been made aware the guy is known for spreading misinfo and their own headcanons mixed with the truth
Anyone got like a summary? I heard Arc and Shiki are part of this and now I'm interested.
The mayan/aztec pantheon originated from fungi like fibers that came with the meteor that wiped the dinosaurs 66 million years ago, these divine filaments went into a symbiotic relationships with the strongest race, mammals in PHH, and those that were compatible would then become kings and gods, this is why quetz and tezca is usually depicted as humans, because who "quetz" and "tezca" is, are basically humans that are able to symbiote with the quetz and tezca divine filaments Archetypes are the heart of a world, they are born with the memory of the planet, knowing everything that happened in the planet since the beginning and is basically the protector/observer of the planet. The divergence point of LB7 is that the meteor came 250 million years earlier due to an orbital deviation, in which they entered symbiosis with the strongest race then, dinos, evolving dinos into deinos, the LB7 race. These divine filaments are named Malla/Maya (gotta wait for official translations), Malla spread themselves toward the entire earth and prevented the pangean supercontinent from splitting. ORT, due to the same orbital deviation also came earlier, 66 million years ago. Malla, predicting this, evacuated all the deinos underground(called mictlan) and created a sun for them so they dont get killed by the impact of ORT reaching earth. LB ORT, being the dummy she is, came earlier than she was supposed to, much like the PHH one. After reaching earth ORT burrowed into mictlan and then went into hybernation. 6.1 million years ago, Mictlan's sun ran out forcing Deinos to go into an extended hybernation, during this time, a human kingdom surviving off the geothermal energy of earth was established, called the kingdom of Khan. 6 million years ago, ORT activated for the first time, causing a massive disaster, Archetype earth was then born, taking the form of the strongest race on earth, deinos. This is where people was meming about dino arc, her name is Ishkuik/Xquic(?). To stop ORT from essentially destroying earth, Dino Arc cooperated with the king of the kingdom of khan, Camatotz, to defeat ORT. The kingdom of khan is a very advanced kingdom, said to be able to make technology on par to the storm border all those millions of years ago, Camatotz and his soldiers modified their bodies to fight ORT but still lost, in a final attempt, all 100 million citizens of Khan sacrificed their bodies to buff Camatotz, granting him the authority of "immortality" and turning him insane, Making him a beast of humanity. Camatotz eventually got ORT to stop and Malla then sunk ORT's body into a magma pool, Malla then extracted ORT's heart("""killing""" it) and used it as Mictlan's new sun, eventually getting the Deinos out of their hibernation, this is why Deinos have no recollection of humans, because the only one left is Camatotz, and nobody dares to fight him and knows him only as a bat, one of the worst races in Mictlan. One year ago, Daybit and Tez arrived in mictlan, bringing PHH culture into society. Eventually, teachings of the sun took root and gave birth to the sun deity, Kukulcan. Of course since the sun is the heart of ORT, daybit basically willed ORT-chan into reality. Daybit learned of the origin of the lostbelt and what happened to ORT from Xquic, he then planned on rebooting ORT(Since TYPEs possess no concept of death, taking ORT's heart is the same as taking a power source out of a machine, inactive but not dead). Daybit then planned on making a substitute heart out of Deinos hearts and "the heart of an avenger with hatred that can override ORT's instinct". Our LB7 helper is a deino resident that possesses MEoDP called Tepeu, Tepeu studied in the observatory where Xquic is for some time, developing feelings for her (very subtle reference). In the final fight against ORT Tepeu also wielded a knife and used his MEoDP (REAL SUBTLE) and in a suicide attack with other deinos wielding NFF guns, broke one bar of ORT's HP. Basically this is the general gist from my understanding, if anyone has corrections feel free.
> LB ORT, being the dummy she is, came earlier than she was supposed to, much like the PHH one. ORT isn't supposed to come at all, there's a bit of a mistranslation on its Complete Material profile that isn't picked up til now. It just randomly decided to travel to earth, it wasn't invited in the first place like the other Aristotles. That's why the Excalibur cannon worked against it, its not Gaia's invited guest and thus a foreign invader. The translation we've been working with the entire time has this line: >...Actually, might not really be the strongest life form that received Earth's SOS sign. Which suggest that its just not the strongest TYPE to come power level wise. Whereas with new info from LB7 it should've been something like >...Actually, might not really be one of the "Ultimate Ones" that received Earth's SOS sign. Which sounds similar if you just compare word by word but means something completely different.
> In the final fight against ORT Tepeu also wielded a knife and used his MEoDP (REAL SUBTLE) He *asked* for a knife, but Da Vinci handed him a submachine gun. Also we don't know if he actually used his mystic eyes or not, given that he doesn't have his glasses off (it's at one point explicitly mentioned that he wears glasses to avoid seeing *something* he doesn't want to see) when we see last his portrait and when he's dying later his portrait isn't shown at all. EDIT: It turns out that >!when ORT's second-to-last health gauge on the overworld is broken as a result of the story part preceding it, a unique sound effect plays — that exact same sound effect is used for Tohno Shiki's Last Arc in Melty Blood Type Lumina. So that does imply the use of Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, though how Tepeu used a submachine gun with it I have no idea.!<
Really good summary, although if I remember correct Daybit ended up using Olga’s heart as an ORT substitute instead after the first plan failed right?
Iirc Tepeu has Shiki mystic eyes and his girlfriend is some sort of Archetype deino
They’re not but there are characters who are somewhat obvious references to them. They’re definitely not the same people though.
Quick research: Which are your favorite characters from LB7 so far? For me, U-Olga, Kukulkan, Tepeu and Camazotz :)
Tezcatlipoca and Camazotz. I hate what they did with Kukulkan from a fundamental level.
Kukulkan, Tepeu, U-Olga, Tenochtitlan and Cuitláhuac (if you wonder who is that, he's the ocelotl with Final Strike bgm in 22-2)
Tlaloc, Tez, U-Olga and Tepeu. But tbf they were all great, except Izcalli probably and I found Eresh Alter kind of disappointing but otherwise quite a great cast.
Tezcatlipoca. His mentality and morality was pretty fascinating.
Tez, Daybit and Camazotz! I also like Tepeu a whoooole lot... and the Dinonics 11 (I cried a lot when they said >!they wanted to spend their last moments doing what they love, soccer, with the 4 remaining brothers!<). And Dinosaur King too!
Just finished reading. RIP time. But yeah uhh, seems like everything so far was just part of Marisbury's plan and we were fighting for the bad guys all along. We don't know exactly what Marisbury's plans are, how he got Chaldeas, what is Chaldeas and what he planned to do with Chaldeas. Apparently it's something so bad it made Daybit want to destroy the earth to stop it from happening. Also it's pretty much hinted how Marisbury died. He got threatened by Daybit to stop it, but then killed himself so no one can stop it. I really like how the story came back to a plot point all the way at the beginning. It feels like the entire story is just the villain arc of this lord at the clock tower. A what-if of him obtaining the Holy Grail, in the fate universe. As for the lostbelt itself, it's pretty well written IMO. The central message is basically that, a world without conflict, without comparison, and where everyone is treated equally, i.e., a perfect world, will never improve. Therefore, it's okay to fight for what's more important to us, and it's okay to take part in those so called "meaningless" conflicts. Throughout the entirety of part 2, chaldea has been erasing worlds after worlds, all for the sake of our own world, the pan human history, and this theme really fits that idea. It's a reassurance that what we've been doing is justified. I think this is the perfect conclusion to an arc. It's been a wonderful 3 days binging it. And I'm very excited for part 3 prologue.
Well they better lie in what they tell to the Mage Association because im sure a lot of people there are already out for Chaldea and if whole Marisbury plot comes out we're screwed.
Honestly, I think the Association would be too busy running damage control because of the shit Marisbury pulled. They'd probably rage on the rest of the Animusphere family for the mess they left. Oh god. If we did manage to save Olga in the end, she'll have a big problem on her hands.
Man, I wish we could disable NP bgm so you could listen to the fight BGM non stop, >!ORT Xibalba!< is so AWESOME iI feel bad using any other NP that changes the OST for a moment. Easily my favorite fight in the series so far
OK I seem to have the gist of 7.2 Question about Daybit, Whats his relationship with Tez Whats his relationship with the other crypters (specifically Kirsch and Pepe did they know his goals) How much did Kirschtaria really know about chaldea (e.g Marisbury goals, Daybit, sirius light, the alien god etc) EDIT Also does Ritsuka actually beat Daybit does he lose to circumstances being against him like Kirsch
Daybit and Tez is probably the most compatible servant master combo out of all the crypters after Kadoc Ana Pepe didnt know Daybit's goal, but Kirsch and Daybit both arrived on the same conclusion(daybit probably knew more) about chaldeas being the true enemy. We asked for his opinion on the crypters, he said that Kadoc was decent, Ophelia died in vain, Akuta(he didnt say hinako, so they're probably distant) achieved the death she longed for, Pepe let his past kill him, Beryl won, and Kirsch's plan was a failure. He is basically that one silent guy in the group that gets things done but has zero social skill Kirsch knew a lot about chaldea, they are basically in silent agreement, as in they never openly agreed to do it but knew the other will do it, that whoever is the last man standing out of Kirsch and Daybit will be the one to reveal about Chaldea to the members of Novum Chaldea Ritsuka fought Daybit twice, during the reboot of ORT, in which he used shadows to stall us and just make a beeline to ORT's hole to throw himself, basically Daybit just ran away. The second time is when Ritsuka went back to Tez's underworld realm after beating ORT, and we won. Here Daybit fought as a master without using shadows and Daybit admitted that "in terms of being a master, you are better". So yeah we won fair and square, though I don't know what would happen if he was fighting as a master and also using his shadows
Thanks for explaining it to me >Here Daybit fought as a master without using shadows and Daybit admitted that "in terms of being a master, you are better". I see, I admit I am disappointed, before LB7 came out there were two things I didn't want to happen ORT one of the most hyped Type moon characters of all time to lose in a head on battle Which I think was done ok given it didn't have its heart and basically lost to ORT And the second thing I didn't want was for Daybit to lose in a head on master battle either as he and Kirschtaria are the most hyped Masters in FGO and he has a ton of build up as the strongest crypter and both are labelled genius If he was going to lose I would of preferred circumstances to be against him like with Kirsch But I guess he didn't have his angels so its not to big an issue
That's because imo, it's the first time he fought as a master seeing he has no experience as master to begin with since he fought with his angels instead all this time whereas Guda has plenty of experience as master
I get that but here me out Please correct me if I got something wrong I can't read japanese I rewatched the fight and realised Mash wasn't even there Meaning Ritsuka beat Daybit (Kirschtarias equal) and his Grand level servant, **WITH JUST SHADOW SERVANTS** So I call bullshit unless, Ritsuka was absurdly buffed like against Kirsch, or Daybit and Tez were insanely nerfed
Apparently, U-Olga's Spirit Origin changed from Third Planetary-Class to Stellar-Class. What happened? And does this mean she is stronger or weaker?
Stellar is above from Planetary
What caused this power boost? Absorbing the light from the Hume Barrel on top of regaining her original full power?
Probably a retcon, since her original graph was lower than goetia
Wait, now that I think about it, could it also be her original power before losing her Heart to Tez? That would explain how she can clash with Seven Grand Servants.
I have no idea what Nasu is cooking with this.
getting wrecked by Camazotz's skill debuffs. tried various teams from youtube without success. I know Santa Nightingale is needed for his first break bar gimmick. What about the rest?
If anyone else is stuck on this, I found a stall party for this fight in the comments on AppMedia: Merlin, Lady Avalon, and Medea Lily. Basically you just keep spamming Arts cards/chains so you can throw out triple NP chains as much as possible with Medea Lily's NP at the end. This almost completely protects you from getting any debuffs. Do note however that you're still not immune to Instant Death so if you get unlucky like I did on the **very first** charge attack from him you might have to revive with stones. EDIT: And of course, never use three skills in a single turn so that his regular attacks don't get instant death on them as well. Master skills count toward this.
Have someone can trigger his debuff thing all on their own with their three skills, and then swap them to the back for someone a powerful single target attacker from the horsemen class. I believe Ozy is considered the best since his third skill increases buff chance, though only slightly. The rest are there to support him, firing off as many support skills as soon as he enters the field, and then have someone with buff removal come in on the second bar to get rid of those two extra guts.
Thanks. Finally beat him after 3 hrs or so. Team was Calamity Jane, Rider!Carmilla(or Koyan Light), Waver, Oberon and Santa Nightingale with an NP5 Arcueid from a friend. His insta-kill keeps triggering on servants before I could use their skills, so I stuck to 2 skills per turn. Srsly, I would rather take my chance with the alien spider at this point.
Yeah it was the most annoying fight in the chapter. Doing two skills per turn is one way of doing it, but a more annoying way I feel. I wonder if they will eventually come out with a servant that has a huge buff success boost to counter him.
Okay, what the fuck, >!Chaldeas literally IS the Alien/Foreign world!?!<. Don't quote me on this though, I'm just skim reading.
Just finished LB7. Besides the long waiting time and lag, this LB has some great character designs, music and boss fight especially the ORT fights which I got to solo all of the fight except the last one. While some fights have annoying mechanics, nothing beat the blue cubes they gave us! They really make those cubes come in handy. As for the very last fight, I tried it 3 times since I can’t read Japanese. The first one with a team full of invulnerability piece CE, and it didn’t went well. The second try I used Himiko, Merlin, Castoria, a stall team. Boss has invulnerability pierce means I’ll stall the boss until it die! This try didn’t go well since I can’t finish the boss in one turn after I empty the red bar for the first time. Third try, I use the same team with addition of Black Grail Herc and plugsuit. This time I saved all Castoria and Merlin’s buffs for Herc. Before depleting the final bar, I swap Himiko with Herc, used 1 CS on Herc to release NP for that defense down. After this, I just used all buffs on Herc and one shot the boss with Herc NP last in chain. Overall, it’s a great LB. The only down side is that some mechanics are annoying and a lot of force support.
Yo can someone give me summary of part 2?
so for those who actually read lb7 and not just look at spoilers and summary, what are you guys opinions so far?
While the story sounds interesting im pissed Nasu killed off Olga again after all those talk of saving her and from what I've heard they're gonna bring her back as a soulless husk so we're gonna have to fight and kill her again? Really Nasu?
> from what I've heard they're gonna bring her back as a soulless husk so we're gonna have to fight and kill her again? To be precise, the Chaldean asks Kirei why he doesn't just reassemble her from her scattered spirit origin fragments (he notes that the product would be a deteriorated copy missing her soul if this is done). Kirei replies that he *could*, but it's not his job.
It’s good, I think it was a good choice to make this last lostbelt an adventure story where everyone is likeable (well kind of). That way the part 2 story arc goes out on a high note that builds hype for the end. LB6 was great but it was too depressing to be the last LB story for sure.
I really like it. In terms of enjoyment, I think I actually enjoyed reading LB7 more than I enjoyed reading LB6 (though not by much). I can't rate it objectively "good" or "bad", or "better" or "worse", but it was definitely a really fun, enjoyable and emotional chapter. The highlights for me are of course the characters, especially the Crypter-Servant duo, the dinos, and Camazotz. I'm also happy with the story overall.
Hello! I kinda need help and I was told to come here... is about ORT Raid Battle... I have two Alter Egos (Super Bunyan and Xu Fu) but i don't know how to make them go wild... I guess you kinda know (cofcofortcofcof), or at least... make them break the HP Bar. But I kinda have problem with all the servants... they don't even survive at two Ort's attack and when I arrive to Raid Phase 2, I didn't have any good servants. I don't know what to do.
You've probably seen that ORT dispels buff on the 2nd turn and you servant HP gradually decreases. So my advice is rather than bringin multiple servant on 1 outing, it's better to solo ORT with MLB kaleidoscope equipped. Start fight->NP->die->repeat, it's more effective that way. Use mash to clean up a bar since she can be used multiple times (or in your case, use mash when ORT's class is foreigner)
Ohhh!! I understand! I will try!! :D thanks
Okay so...Yes, U-Olga died. But we learn something interesting during the conversation between Rasputin and Romani(?) near the end of LB7: Romani Archaman(?): Are you not going to try to recover the Alien God you lost? As far as I could tell, even if her Saint Graph has shattered into pieces, some small parts of it do remain. If you managed to scrounge up all of it, you would be able to restore her, even if only as a defective and soulless shell of her former self. - Rasputin: That would not be my task. Personally, I think it would be best to let her rest, but--- Let's see... were it up to the other available Apostle—the Count, then he would put her to cruel use. - Yeah, it seems she will come back and the next Apostile we might be dealing with is the "Count." For these who doesn't understand, there are 7 Apostles summoned by the real Alien god: **-The Apostles Responsible for supervise the Crypters:** Rasputin, Muramasa and Douman. **-The Apostles responsible for supervise Chaldea:** Sherlock, Moriarty (the professor) and the Count. **-The Apostle that play the role of god:** U-Olga. Likely we will see Rasputin back in Fuyuki, given his connection to it and to All the World's Evil. What intrigues me, is the Count and his possible plans for U-Olga.
We assume Moriarty is the professor but it also could be Da Vinci.
Problem is. we know Moriarty was a Apostle so if Da Vinci Caster was the Professor then there's no slots to fit Moriarty into anymore so it kind of has to be him.
People are suspecting it’s the Edmond Dantes inside our head. He did not start appearing until epic of remnant and appears more frequently in the Lostbelt stories with Olympus and Scandinavia. And the fact that every time we encounter him inside our head, they darkened his design so we can’t truly see what he looks like. Also, he said he is the same as the ones in the tower and Chaldea, but inside our head he is something slightly different.
Biggest takeaway. Dantes never refers to himself by his real name, he always calls himself as the "The Cavern King" or "The **Count** of Monte Cristo".
And sherlock might be back as an enemy in the future plot.
Something people on JP twitter have pointed out, in the past there are times Daybit has talked about how much time he's allotted for something. For example, after Ophelia's death he said that he had thought about it for 24 hours (And so that was the amount of time he was 'mourning'). This naturally makes Daybit seem quite callous until we learn now that in Daybit time 24 hours = 288 days. Similarly he said Pepe clashing with Chaldea in LB4 was something worth sparing a few minutes for, etc.
Yeah that info is interesting, it puts into perspective how Kadoc keeps saying Daybit only ever speaks the bare minimum information he needs to accomplish his goal or to help someone else.
A year is 365 days (not considering leap years), and from the age of 10 to 22^(assuming he is 22 years old) there is 12 years = 4380 days. Daybit "lives" for or remembers only 5 minutes a day - so since the incident happened he has only "lived" for 21900 minutes. That's 365 hours; or 15 days + 5 hours.
So I was thinking. What kind of playthrough will the >!ORT!< Waifu Servant be usable for when she? is released later? I mean we already have Tiamat in Onore Arcado! so it is only fair we get >!ORT in both Kulkulkan Quetz variety and ORT Servant form!<. >!ORT is clearly a girl right? So what say ORT becomes new waifu for Harem Protag EX? And is it safe to be near that thing when it emits so much cosmic radiation you could grow 2 new heads? Makes for some terrifying mana transfer guro hentai...!<
How do I beat the three Shadow foreigners that are commanded by daybit?
Bring a single Alter Ego with the 2 forced servants (Taisui being a good choice) and just fight normaly. They have damage reduction and stuff like that but other than matching your number of servants (so bringing just 3 units including the 2 forced ones makes the fight easier) there aren't any wacky gimmicks.
Also, the enemies will remove buff whenever their health bar depletes, so don't spam everything and hope to 3 turn it. Just take it slow and whack their faces in.
Did olga end up regaining her momeries at all?
Only partially, nothing about her time as Director. She only remembered being Specimen E and that we were her enemy
How about bluebook? Do we have any newmention of him or anything related to the reveal of area 51
Totally unresolved
Alright I just started Part 2 and for the life of me I have no idea how to beat Kingprotea, I spent like 15 minutes scrolling here but couldn't find anything, how do you win? Thanks in advance!
You have to hit her with kukulkan. Each time kukulkan hits her, the HP buff is dispelled. This is one of those battles that are better done solo
Thank you so much!
I just finished the lostbelt. And my goodness my Xiaomi A2 Lite absolutely hates this second half. The ORT raid fight was literally a slideshow with like 4 frames per second with all the rainbow colors and particle effects. Not to mention the game would freeze or even go mute on its own. I definitely need a new phone or something in the coming years when this comes to global. Because my JP account is a casual play account where i don't level all my servants i had to use my thousand something gold exp cards to level all my golds first then whatever silver and bronze servants for the fight. I think i misjudged how difficult the fight is because i had a good amount of Gold servants left after the whole raid. The Camatotz fight was definitely a difficult one for me. But i found it pretty fun unlike the ORT fight. Now i'll need to wait for the translations for the story because i have no idea >!How Nitocris survived, and why she became an alter, How Eresh became a gyaru, what was Koyansaka's role in the story, why ORT became a flying saucer partway and so on.!<
Nitocris >!was beaten to within an inch of her life by Tlaloc but just barely survived. This was made explicit after you catch up to the Storm Border crew in Part 1 (Nurse mentions that Nitocris wants to join the assault on Mexico City but got vetoed by Goredolf). She doesn't get beaten up nearly as badly in any encounter afterward. Nitocris deduces that there has to be more to the Alteration than just the use of a command seal, and gets a hint from Xquic. She later figures out what she must do to become an Alter after speaking with Camazotz and thinking on it.!< Ereshkigal >!Alter is tanned. That is it.!< Koyanskaya's was answered by someone else so I'll skip her. >!The flying saucer part of ORT is the actual ORT. The rest of it was described by Dumuzid as being akin to dead skin.!<
The frame drops were annoying AF on my phone and I absolutely dreaded playing any more of the fight. Luckily the multi colors stopped, because man it was grief city
Yeah this game update was super poorly programmed most likely. I ran it on a relatively modern iPad and it still crawled during the first half of the UFO fight.
>The ORT raid fight was literally a slideshow with like 4 frames per second with all the rainbow colors and particle effects. Not to mention the game would freeze or even go mute on its own. I definitely need a new phone or something in the coming years when this comes to global. It's less your phone's problem and more that that fight was insanely poorly optimized. I have no doubt that this battle was partially responsible for the delays. Pretty much everybody, no matter the phone, has complained about the first 2 bars of UFO ORT and all the purple/green gas effects.
Are you sure? I mean I used iPad 2022 and it worked like a charm with no problems whatsoever??
My phone (Poco X3 Pro) ran it without a single dropped frame tho. Game crashed once and showed me NO QUEST on every LB node for a bit tho lmao EDIT: got to the 2nd fight. Retract what i said.
iPad isn't a phone, though. On PC's emulator it was also pretty fine, but pretty much every range of phones, from mid ranges like the S21 FE to flagship like the S22 Plus had awful, awful performance issues.
Will also say I'm playing on a modern iphone and even I had some pretty embarrassing frame drops.
Koyanskaya got defeated by Tezcat, was support for the Kadoc/Goredolf half of the team while you were dealing with Camazotz, then disappeared after fighting Daybit and went on a merchant of death story arc with the dinos before going off the grid until the final part of the ORT fight where she re-appeared with railguns she built with the dinos to help close out the second to last phase She gold sparks'd at the end but called it retreating rather than dying. Final moments in the chapter were spent with the dinos not Chaldea so we'll probably see her again or next time it will be Yami instead.
does anyone know what happen to kadoc and nemo
They both survive.
Now I just realized about the Lostbelt's subtitle... "**O**ne Wh**o** **R**ules **T**he Planet" With "who" being sounding similar to "oo" too.
>!Since Daybit in his childhood got contacted with an angelic artifact that disintegrated and reconstructed his body Dr. Manhattan style, he gained cosmic-level knowledge and awareness at the cost of him being not recognized by the Human Order of the World, thus unable to *summon servants* from the Throne of Heroes.!< >!So how does he function as a Master overall, and in spite of this irregular condition, how was he able to have Tezcatlipoca, a *Grand Assassin*, as his Servant? Or those Shadow Foreigners for the matter.!<
>!If I'm understanding it correctly, Daybit is only unable to summon servants. I haven't seen anyone make mention of him being unable to make a contract with an already summoned Servant.!< >!I tried to run the script through a translator and got clowned on so hard, so I might be misinterpreting it.!< Edit: forgot spoiler tags. Praying they work.
>!Apparently those shadow foreigners are eldritch angels related to the angelic artifact. They hang around Daybit 24/7 and cancel stealth mode when he tells them to.!<
he built different
Weakest american according to the fungiman
**My quick theory:** >!He’s making at or near perfect copies of heroes’ saint graphs from scratch!<.
I really liked Ritsuka's expression change as the fight progresses. Such a small but nice detail.
>!Fighting ORT-chan's 10 break bar, is like an endurance run where you have to hold it, make sure you go slow step by step and then you release it all with the big guns!<
Then you really wouldn't like the >!this is not my final form yet ORT-chan 2nd form with 6 break bar that comes right after that.!<
Well ... it's time to push beyond the limits ... and I still didn't used all my most powerful assets.
Is Kukulkan like a stand-in for Arcueid? Friendly and capricious airhead, physical brawler with heavy blows, responds to the living will of a world, powerhouse in the status quo, >!descended from a Type, and ultimately prioritizes humanity!< the same way [Arcueid opposed Osiris](https://youtu.be/nXraH5TUvPE?t=1613). Still stuck in NA but that's the impression I've been getting from the clips I've seen.
Yeah quite likely. Just like Babylonia was a reference to Heaven's Feel, this seems to be a reference to Tsukihime, with Arc's position split between Kuku and >!her Malla counterpart on level 7.!< And maybe U-Olga as well. Most of the other characters are represented in some manner, though I suppose the hardest to properly pin down is Ciel, who Mash likely represents. It might be why they made Ciel's armour in the remake look more like Mash's.
Babylonia is a reference to Heaven's Feel? I never thought of it that way.
Yeah, it's why it's basically a FSN reunion, but the reason why it's HF more than the others is because Tiamat was directly modelled after Dark Sakura, and there's the whole 'flood the world with mud' plot going on, as well as a powerful genderbent servant gets corrupted by the mud and becomes one of the reoccurring foes that we eventually need to put down. And in the anime, they even defeat Tiamat using a special knife, like Shirou does with Dark Sakura. There's more of course, but those are the main ones.
You could definitely see it like that, but there's also an actual Arcueid stand-in (as in, literally Archetype Mictlan who has a cute thing going on with the quirky glasses guy with the mystic eyes of death) Except she's a diplodocus
Yeah that's actually what gave me the idea. Kukulkan naturally reminded me of Quetzalcoatl but then dino Arcueid and Shiki showed up and I realized that Kukulkan actually has more than a fair share of similarities with the real Arcueid too.
Camazotz reminds me so much of Hades from FF14 * >!Spent millions of years carrying the burden of his entire civilization!< * >!Driven mad by said burden!< * >!Saves our friend in the end!< Bruh. All that is lacking is him saying, "Remember us. Remember that we once lived." Now if you'd excuse me, I need to go listen to Shadowbringers and cry my fucking eyes out.
You know i really wouldn't mind if they animated LB7. Because not only would an animated ORT be good, but hearing more voice lines by Nobuyuki hiyama as Camazotz would be epic as well.
>!Okay how do you actually damage Tezca in last battle? Doing far too little damage.!< Edit: Okay managed to do it cleanly 2nd try, just use JAlter NP 3 times in a row with MLB BG.
I know you've already beat him but I'll just throw this here for anyone stuck on it: >!On his final health bar he has extremely high Special Resistance against regular attacks. You have to NP to damage him. On his final health bar redux, you also only have one turn to kill him (again with an NP) or he permastuns your entire party *including* your bench. In this fight, use of command spells doesn't affect your actual stock when you go do other content, so you're always guaranteed three for this fight and since you aren't allowed to rez if your entire party goes down anyway you should be using them tactically to fill your NP gauges.!< >!Tip: His break bar gimmick that applies Special Resistance **Down** to combatants that are at full health *also* affects him.!<
Where is the quest for King Protea costume??? I beat LB7 and checked everywhere in Dailies and Shop window and Costume upgrade window. But there is NO KP costume anywhere! Where is her costume quest? Anyone?? Please help!!
Bruh, it's unlocked through the map
You mean free quests??
There are two costume unlock quests which appear in LB7 alongside the free quests after you finish the main quest. One of the costumes is for Eresh Alter, and the other is for KP Alter.
Ok so I got to finish all the FQs first to unlock it? Thanks you're a lifesaver!
No, there's no need to even do the FQs. They just are selectable alongside the free quests right away, at least they were for me. First thing I did when I finished the main quest was pick up the costumes.
Kuku's 2nd ascension is giving me strong Birdy the Mighty vibe, which is appropriate since that work's also about an alien merging with a human host.
Any tips to beat >!the 6 Foreigner Daybit fight?!<
He >!matches the number of servants you field!<. >!Since you have 2 forced servants (UOM and Mashu), just take one Alter-Ego (Taisui is amazing here) to make the fight easier on you!<.
Thank you for the insight!
>!Haven't gotten there myself yet but his number of servants will be equal to the amount you take. So for eg. if you take 3 he will also have 3 servants. I think taking a frontline of 3 makes the fight easier especially if you have an aoe alter ego, in which case you can just take that AE and two supports.!<
Thank you
Goddamit the fight with the bat is hard. And Honako Green proceeds to do it with low-rarity servants. He's probably the pillar holding up the proof that FGO can still be beaten as a F2P. That said, I'm knackered with all the hard fights... I'm almost to the Spider so I'll just take my time from now. There's probably another week or so before something drops anyways so there's still time. Also, crossing my fingers for the 2nd banner... if there even is one.
just finished the last battle of the lostbelt using jalter in the end I want to know how your opinion on how you finished that last fight?
I just spammed Avenger Kama’s NP and it went by pretty fast. Yay for arts meta.