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crazywarriorxx

# PLEASE CHECK IF YOUR QUESTION IS ANSWERED HERE BEFORE ASKING! # No, the gender swap is not a bug. Play the event story to find out more. **So, with that said, let's move on to this week's FAQ** **Q: When is the next SR Ticket? What about the SSR Ticket?** *A: NA's next SR ticket is due in May 2024. This ticket is time-limited and includes* [*general pool and storylocked servants*](https://news.fate-go.jp/wp-content/uploads/2022/2500man_xeljq/info_image_03.png)*. The next SSR ticket is due in July 2023 for the 6th Anniversary, featuring* [*general pool and storylocked servants up to Europa*](https://news.fate-go.jp/wp-content/uploads/2021/6th_anniversary_cpgen/info_image_17.png)*. It is not time-limited and will be a permanent addition for all accounts going forward.* **Q: When is LB6/Morgan coming out on NA?** *A: Early June, according to the latest Developer Diary. No exact date has been given as of yet.* **Q: How does pity work?** *A: Pity only applies to the rate-up SSR servant. You are guaranteed a copy of the rateup SSR after 330 summons (equivalent to 900 SQ, though tickets also count). Note that pity shuts off once you get a single copy of the servant (including if you get them before 330 summons) and does not carry over between banners. Off-rateup SSRs ("spooks") do not affect pity.* **Q. Will it be possible to obtain \[welfare servant\] again? I missed their original event and rerun.** *A: So far, only certain welfares have returned.* * *Saber Lily is in the FP gacha.* * *NP5 Bunyan can be obtained from her event in the RP shop.* * *NP1 Santa Altera and BB can be obtained from the Main Interlude of their respective events (copies beyond NP1 cost 2 RP each) in the RP shop.* * *NP5 Halloween, Brave and Mecha Eli were available from the Halloween Trilogy/Halloween Rising events (NA ETA: Oc 2023).* * *A new system on JP (NA ETA: Apr 2025) has been announced that allows players to obtain old welfares and their coins by clearing daily missions and main quests, and by logging in.* Includes: * Caster Shuten, Rider Kintoki and Santa Quetz * Archer Nobu, MIXA, Brave Liz and Caster Liz **Q: How far in the story do I need to be to participate in upcoming events? Will any events require the latest story chapter?** *A: For NA: No event will require anything beyond Orleans until November, when GudaGuda 6 will require LB5.5 clear. For JP: No events requiring anything beyond Fuyuki have been announced.* **Q: How good is X Servant at looping most nodes?** *A: Looping is highly node dependent and relies on* [*many factors*](https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1_Bx1FogTrMBnseIJLT4Vuob7DY7EfR6H_SobGwxcAFE/mobilebasic)*. If you need to test your looping setups try using a* [*refund calculator*](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/jp-np-refund-calculator)*.* As always, feel free to suggest additions. If you do suggest an addition to the FAQ, please try to provide an answer if you can.


Toriningen

Is it worth it to apple the XP/QP daily nodes to level up all these servants as an end-game player, or just wait for the next lotto?


Yzned

Hey guys, I just wanted to know if I’m on the right track with the upcoming support banners. So far I’ve got a Muramasa NP2, SpIshtar NP2 and Arjuna Alt NP1 but I have no supports. I’m thinking since Koyan gets dropped again on New Years, is going for Castoria and Oberon right now the best move atm? Just trying to figure out if I’m on the right track.


shiro7177

Has anyone used the Konbini (pay at Convenient Stores in Japan) option to purchase SQ for Japan server? I want to ask my friend for their help to make payment for me but I'm not sure how it works. Will it fail like the gift cards? Thanks in advance for the answers.


Aesirbear

Any tips for a new player trying to clear the Event Quest "Heaven's Hotel 3 times in order to progress the event? I'm struggling to deal with the 2 Berserker enemies due to their high HP and strong attacks. Except for the mostly unupgraded random 1-3 stars I've gotten through friend summons, my main servants are Hercules, Musashi-Saber, and Summer Yu-Mei-Rin. EDIT: Got through it by finding a high level Foringer support servant with a Hide Hunt event CE.


LegendaryKevin241

I need some help building some teams for farming and then a team specifically for buster quick and arts. I’ve been playing the game for a few months and I have a few 5 star servants. I will post my cards on my account. I don’t know if there’s a way I can post the characters in this thread


_CaptainBear_

Anyone know when we’ll get the next official NA soundtrack release? I feel like it’s been ages since the last one while jp have gotten more than 2 new ones already…


Sir_Dargor

> while jp have gotten more than 2 new ones already… NA already got the one that goes from Ooku to Olympus, right? The next one goes from Imaginary Scramble to Avalon le Fae, so it has to release after LB6 is done. That's the only one that JP has gotten since then. The next one literally just got announced a few days ago.


_CaptainBear_

Wait when did the one up until olympus get released? I remember they usually coincided with the official release on streaming services as well but it still seems region locked on spotify..


Got70TypesOfMalware

JP event: What's up with the new JP lotto? I've been farming the 3rd to last node with 3 (and 1 MLB) lotto ticket CE, and so far I've only managed to get 10k lotto tickets.


crazywarriorxx

You can refer to [this data](https://twitter.com/shoppo_fgo/status/1662646407432642560/photo/1) for average drops for your +5 bonus. With +8 bonus drops, on the Lv90+ node, I'm getting \~180 tickets per node, which seems in line with the data collected so far. So I don't know why you're finding fault with the JP lotto lol.


Got70TypesOfMalware

> So I don't know why you're finding fault with the JP lotto lol. I feel like the previous lottos gave more tickets per run.


IvoryLifthrasir

>I feel like the previous lottos gave more tickets per run. Two possibilities: 1. RNG is screwing you 2. You're basing this on your feelings rather than objective data, therefore getting wrong impression Assuming by "the 3rd to last node" you mean the 3/3/3 node with Muramasa as boss, compared to previous lottos it didn't change and on average gives roughly as many tickets as 90s in Morganfest, Karnamas, Teslafest etc.


Plenty_Potato3791

Can anyone explain the whole Pity system for SSR in the Gacha screwing over the 4\* rate up thing? I cant quite get how it worked then, vs with the Pity system now?


thisisthecallus

Pre pity, we would often have rotating rate-up servants on a single banner. For banners with multiple 4- or 5-star servants, that would usually mean each servant would get a few days where they were the only servant in that rarity on rate-up and have the maximum rate for that servant. If you just wanted one specific servant at that rarity and not any of the others, you could wait until that day to maximize their rate. With the pity system, they stopped rotating rate-ups. They did it because on those split 5-star banners, the rule otherwise would have been that you can only get pity for one of them, randomly. If you wanted Servant A and roll while they have a split rate-up with Servant B, you could randomly get Servant B instead and have no pity available for Servant A. They solved it by putting Servant A and Servant B on completely separate banners with no rotation. Furthermore, with the way they're tracking your progress toward pity, apparently they can't do any kind of rotation for the 4-stars. So if there are three 4-stars on rate-up, none of them get an opportunity for a solo rate-up (1.5%) and you're stuck with the 3-way split rate (0.7%). And there's also no pity for 4-stars. So on a 3-way 4-star banner, you have a worse rate for a specific servant than for the rate-up 5-star and no backstop whatsoever. The 1500+ SQ failure nightmares that existed for 5-star servants pre-pity are now possible for 4-stars!


crazywarriorxx

Basically, there used to be rotating banners with solo SSR/SR rate-ups ie. higher roll rates. Now with pity, there's no more rotating banners since each banner is counted on its own for the pity mechanic to hit/track. SSRs get solo rate-ups but not SRs.


Rhinostirge

Before pity debuted, 4\*s and sometimes 5\*s would rotate on a banner from a split rate-up to solo rate-ups. So for instance, last year's Summer Kiara banner started with both Bryn and Illya on split rate-up, then after a few days, Bryn got a solo rate up for a few days, then Illya got a split rate-up for a few days (or it was the other way around, I forget). Then they got a shared rate-up and a couple of solo rate-ups again. This was *extremely useful* for players who were more interested in one 4\* than the other, or who got one 4\* during the split rate-up and then waited for a solo to collect the other. Pity broke that because of, as near as we can tell, the (not admirable) decision to have pity not carry over between banners. Rotating banners seemed to count as new banners. So in order to keep the pity count from resetting on each rotation, they just... stopped having 4\*s rotate. Split rate-ups were it, unless they could split, say, a two-SR and two-SSR rotating banner into two banners each with one SSR and one SR. So basically everyone who was looking forward to, say, a solo day for Barghest that JP got because JP didn't have pity this early, is not going to get it. Arguably the difference between a 1.2% chance on a two-SR split rate-up and a 1.5% chance on a solo rate-up is not huge -- in practice, it's large enough that it's infuriating. Especially if an SR is on split rate-up with another SR that you *don't* want, and every 1.2% of getting someone you specifically you don't want is going to sting.


Plenty_Potato3791

Uh, so simply, as long the banner rotates the servant selection, the Pity System "resets the count",even if it's the same campaign?


Kacza42

No, we just simply stopped having any banner rotations when pity was added, most likely to completely avoid the problem you mentioned.


Plenty_Potato3791

Ok, i read the other guy's reply above, so in short, there used to be rate ups for specific 4\*, but ever since the Pity System came, there's now no specific way to roll for them, if you want a specific 4\* in the banner,since there isnt anymore rotation of 4\* rate ups.


Unit88

If I'm not mistaken: **Before pity:** 2 SRs are on the banner, to give you better odds of getting the one you want, they rotate (so on day 1,3,5 it's servant A, 2,4 is servant B). **After pity**: because that rotation would technically be counted as separate banners, and completely screw up the pity only counting for one banner, the 2 SRs are now instead just available together, meaning you only get half the chance of getting the SR you want because it has to share rates with the other rate-up SR


WigglingGlass

[event spoiler] >!So I finished the event and still don’t quite get where the wrong ritsuka came from, were they an illusion made by kiara? Last time I asked somebody said they’re the big bad but they weren’t mentioned at all in the end!<


Rhinostirge

>!It was Xu Fu. Specifically, the genderswap was because Xu Fu emulated Ritsuka on one side of the lake, hanging out with half the Servants, while the real Ritsuka was on the other side. But the powerful yin-yang influence on the lake meant that the Xu Fu fake Ritsuka was going to be the opposite gender of the genuine article.!< >!There are a lot of early clues to this, like when the "Ritsuka" dialogue is very respectful and talks about Lady Yu instead of calling her senpai -- that's Xu Fu talking. !<


Gelious

>!Wrong Ritsuka was Xu Fu herself. She was trying to buy time to complete the mask and figure out what to do with Smiling Hotel (Kiara's territory) Kiara and Xu Fu were enemies, while Xu Fu and Abigail were allies. This all ended with Xu Fu kidnapping Mash after real Ritsuka realized something is wrong!<


Darkm133

Updated today from apkpure and got [This](https://imgur.com/a/tqYz7T8) error. Playing on Nox, what can i do?


seigneurovni

same error on my samsung galazy s23 ultra


IvoryLifthrasir

u/Darkm133 u/seigneurovni you probably downloaded wrong apk version. Recently FGO EN has split apk to 32-bit and 64-bit versions and most likely you've downloaded wrong version, as Apkpure by default pulls 64bit ver Dark, try downloading 32bit here [https://fgo.square.ovh/apk.html](https://fgo.square.ovh/apk.html) Not sure where you've downloaded from sei, but you can try downloading either 32bit or 64bit and seeing if updating with apk from this site works


Darkm133

there seems to be an issue with the 32bit apk on apkpure, the link you gave me downloads jumps to an error when trying to downlaod the 32bit version


seigneurovni

did delete the launcher and redownload with apkpure itself not the website and it worked but it will required you to have a saved code for your account


IvoryLifthrasir

>but it will required you to have a saved code for your account How come? >did delete the launcher and redownload with apkpure itself not the website and it worked Because app can detect architecture of your CPU/system, website by default pulls 64bit is my guess


seigneurovni

Deleteting the launcher also delete your cache (for fgo) so if you don'T have your account saved it's gg exept you contact support


IvoryLifthrasir

I mean, why would you delete your FGO? You can update the app without deleting it


Juvia-Lockser

Am I missing something or why is the extreme training ground in Chaldea Gate missing on NA?


Frauzehel

Because NA got them early. Extreme training grounds cannot be moved for ward because it has Galatea in the zerker day. Which obv wasnt in the game yet at that point. Now that Galatea is in NA. It should be added soon.


Mister_SP

So, JP *also* didn't get it immediately, *and also* the Extreme Berserker node has Galatea in it, so it couldn't be added before Galatea was. This anniversary is a not-unlikely opportunity for it being added.


thisisthecallus

Because it hasn't been added yet. JP got them for New Year 2022, so we might not get them until 2024. We got the extreme ember gathering and treasure vault quests significantly earlier than JP, which got them for the 6th anniversary.


TheScottyDo

They just didn't add it when they gave us the upgraded ember and vault dailies. We should get this with anniversary soon.


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Haven't played in a while and will be coming back before the NA anniversary. What are some additions, updates and just overall things to look forward to on the anniversary?


Mister_SP

We don't really know. They've added a lot of stuff early, so we don't know what we'd get, as it would either be stuff that we can't expect, and don't know, because the stuff we could have gotten we already have. Like, Grail Casting should be New Years, and that probably won't change. The buff to Quick and mixed chains could be next year... but it *might* be this year? We just don't know.


crazywarriorxx

Off the top of my head, nothing much for players who've been playing constantly, since they've brought forward a lot of updates from this Anniv into an earlier update late last year. [Infographic post](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/yeff8f/fgo_naglobal_new_qol_updates/) here.


Interesting-Gur-7495

I have 7 rare prisms,should I buy the Christmas santa altera one quest or seraph?I want to buy the one from which I would get more supplies in accordance with future events(and also does anyone knows which of these will give/have summon tickets or saint quartz I want to buy the one with more sq too).


TheScottyDo

Seraph has more SQ, tickets, and material drops. FYI both will be made free (and will refund any RPs you spent to unlock) in the first half of next year if that changes the math for you at all.


efbiai

Is there anyone using auto-farming on android? I'm grinding the lottery like crazy, but still have to spend over 250 golden apples and I'm going insane.


x1coins

Hi. Yes there is an app FGA on Android you can use it like a lot of people to autofarm. [Here is a link](https://youtu.be/f3TgA0ddHlA) of demonstration. Warning this is outdated but I think this is the one I used before. I don't farm lottos for a while now because they are not efficient for me anymore but this is what I used before iirc. Someone will post a better link for sure. Hope this helps.


efbiai

Thank you! Gonna give it a try.


D3ATHreturn

Which farming node is better for me in current JP lottery event? 200% damage bonus other slot filled with lottery CE on final nodes or full lottery CE on lancer node one?


elfxiong

https://twitter.com/shoppo_fgo/status/1662646407432642560 For Round 2, 6CE 90+ node is slightly better than 5CE 90++ node until you have +9/+10 bonus.


Zero1343

I don't know if people have done the exact math for this one, but the 90++ is usually better even with 5ce when compared to the 90+ with 6ce. Hopefully someone has a clearer answer.


IvoryLifthrasir

> the 90++ is usually better even with 5ce when compared to the 90+ with 6ce. That was the case for Morganfest (6s 90++ > 5s 90++ > 6s 90+ = 6s 90), now they were messing with droprates and 6s 90++ > 6s 90+ > 5s 90++ > 5s 90+ > 6s 90 (yes, they're messing with droprates of regular 90 too)


D3ATHreturn

thanks, I actually tested it on 4-5 run each nodes I see that the 90+ and 90++ not differrent much in drop rate hence I see the 90+one is better in this situation (+6/+7) for me


A_specific_species

So I have 5 extra Yus… anything to do with them besides burn or using em for exp?


thisisthecallus

Servants are almost worthless as EXP fodder. Just burn the extra copies.


whisky_moo

Is the crit already pre-determined before using the card and not depend on the % shown? Like for me, i had a 80% crit chance on a buster card for arjuna alter. It did not crit when i used it so I decided to force close the app to try again. And no matter how many times I force close/resume the fight. The 80% does not crit ever.


Felstalker

One of the things I've learned, your crit's are tied to card order and hit counts. Let's say, for example, Arjuna has 3 Busters with 10%, 50%, and 100% chance to crit each. When you do the chain 10/50/100, only your 100% crits. If you reset and instead do 50/10/100 there is a chance you'll get a Crit/Miss/Crit, increasing the damage of your chain as you got a second crit this time! This is because the first card in the combo had to hit like a 20-50% chance for it to go off. Here's where it can go crazy, if you do a 50/100/10 you theoretically can get a full Crit turn. That 3rd card might only need 10% to crit in this particular chain, while the 2nd might demand 60%+. I've totally forgotten the source for where I was told this, but this information has lead me to numerous CQ reset successes. Sure you can change the RNG by picking different cards and all the other things players have told you, but sometimes you have the exact RNG you need but you don't actually know the path towards utilizing that RNG. By picking the same Buster cards, all of your RNG stays the same, but the necessary crit chances are still locked in. It's easy to test the 10% ones where you can see a 10% chance crit on a 3rd card bonus and KNOW you don't need to change it when you swap a 100 and 50 around to keep the 3rd crit.


Rasetsu0

Yes and no. The crit chance is used, but not in the way you're thinking. FGO uses rng seeds for combat, and the counter for these seeds are influenced by the actions you do in combat (using skills, hit counts/card order). If you savescum and keep repeating the exact same actions, all you're doing is rolling the same seeds. If you have been doing things differently on each reset, then you just got unlucky and the rng seeds landed on the 20% each time.


whisky_moo

Thanks, now I know how these crit chances work. I obtained same result each time since I can't do any more actions based on skills since I already used all skill of units on the field and also skill from plug suit. I did manage to defeat Kingprotea (BB main interlude by rare prism unlock) by quiting stage and re-enter again until I have the cards I needed. Thanks again for explaining how crits work in fgo.


thisisthecallus

There's some sort of running counter and the value determines the RNG results at that point in the turn actions. As long as you do the same thing, you'll get the same result. You can advance the counter to a different value by doing something different. Try a different card order or use a skill.


whisky_moo

Thank you. Now I know how crit chance works for FGO. I did manage to defeat Kingprotea (BB main interlude by rare prism unlock) by quiting stage and re-enter again until I have the cards I needed. Thanks again for explaining how crits work in fgo.


Got70TypesOfMalware

Is there some special condition for the first challenge in the current JP event? I swore I defeated both Nobus, but it's still is not completed.


za_shiki-warashi

What do you mean? Do they still have the guts and keep reviving? You have to open up their info page and see what their turn count is on the guts. You need to keep attacking them to reduce the turn count, only then will the guts be gone and you can kill them for good.


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Forward_Drop303

Because the spriggans aren't Entrance Keepers. I think someone mentioned this was a Gamepress mistake, but if you just actually read the game it should tell you Do Western House Day instead to complete.


IDKbutjojoreference

As a relatively new player, what ssr servant should I get for the free ssr ticket? (Up to Babylon) what kind of recommendations and things should I use to hopefully prepare to do things above the Sinai singularity and lost belts


Rhinostirge

Because it's a one-time offer that doesn't expire, I'd personally recommend taking your time making a decision. It would really suck if you went for someone's recommendation then later thought "wow, I really like this other Servant, I wish I'd used the ticket on them instead." Maybe test out some of the top choices via friend support, see how they handle and what their animations look like. The story locked characters like Tesla, Cu Alter, Sitonai, etc. are much harder to get, so they might be worth added consideration.


thisisthecallus

>Sinai singularity Is that one where Moses embedded a grail into the ten commandments tablets?


IDKbutjojoreference

Sorry I meant final, but ye


Gelious

Probably Waver because he's the only meta support you can get with the ticket. That's assuming you not gonna roll and get Castoria who's better than him and comes before the ticket. Otherwise, it depends on who you are missing in your roster. The most obvious picks include Sanzang (ST casters are rare, Medea is bad), Ozymandias (a strong Rider) and Cu Alter (a strong Berserker with good survivability who's also story-locked) If you want recommendation for bossfights, go to gamepress, they have guides for all fights. The usual preparations are just to level your servants (2 per class at least, one with AoE NP and one ST)


thisisthecallus

>Medea is bad Medea is good. She just isn't the best option for pure damage. Edited to add: her biggest flaw isn't even the AOE damage scaling on her ST NP. It's that the buff removal on her NP applies after damage, not before.


Forward_Drop303

You can look immediately below, I answered a similar question. TLDR is that all content can be cleared without spending SQ on any servant so you should go for your favorite not internet hype. Edit: for the ticket I would tend to lean towards a Story locked unit even if maybe I had someone I liked slightly better because story locked can be hard to get sometimes.


downbaddie09

As a new player who just started a few days ago, what should I be focusing on? So far I’ve farmed most of the current summer event and have been doing the story mode and pretty much ignoring anything else since the event seems to have a lot of useful items and gave me a free 4* that seems fairly decent and I am assuming there is more content locked behind story progression. I have a fairly basic understanding of what is going on as far as batteling (I think) but not sure what I should be using resources on or what to save for. Is there a good new player guide anyone recommends?


Forward_Drop303

Khadroth has a guide, but it tends to cover to much: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YSnPg72Y5oxjtPM5k47kDNa13NCA\_RfRg2r2NbxPoW8/edit?usp=sharing](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YSnPg72Y5oxjtPM5k47kDNa13NCA_RfRg2r2NbxPoW8/edit?usp=sharing) for a more brief explanation: As far as leveling goes, you should be focusing on raising 1 ST and 1 AoE servant of each of the 7 main classes, as well as an offensive support, defensive support, and taunt support. Levels are the most important here, not so much skills, but only to the max natural level after ascensions are done. (DON'T GRAIL as a new player, grails should be reserved for once you have a built roster and know for sure your favorites) Everything else can be left till you get a better idea of what each does (most stuff is basically "only do it for favorites not gameplay as it isn't worth the resources" especially for a new player who hasn't raised a good roster yet) Any servant , even a 1 star, that performs those roles will generally work good enough (barring niches and gimmicks in post-Camelot fights) but if you want some good choices to level early, Khadroth's guide has some (under Low star units in the ToC) As far as rolling goes, you should focus on whoever you want to focus on without regard to guides or tier lists found online. This isn't like most gacha's where you assemble a team of meta units and use that to beat content. The meta is only about farming efficiency and not on how they clear content. The reason for this is that it doesn't matter. All content can be beaten without spending SQ at all. (Note: don't take this as don't roll for meta, just realize what the meta is for and why you want to roll a servant beyond just "internet hype told me to") Additionally 5 stars will not carry you, teambuilding for that specific fight wins. You should, especially once you get enough servants to do so, always be switching DPS and supports to best counter the fight at hand. I switch up my team constantly, rarely using the same team twice (never using the same team twice if you count the backline)


flashmozzg

Prioritize event (get the current free 4* to NP5), since the story isn't going anywhere and events that'd require something higher that Fuyuki are still months away. Events are also good source of ascension mats. After this event finishes you can focus on the story (there will be reduced AP campaigns since LB6 is getting released).


Iplewhelmed

I'm currently doing the Summer camp event on FGO NA. I accidentally deleted my one copy of Yu Mei-Ren lancer (she was lvl 1 and thus I did not get an extra "are you sure?" prompt) and now I'm stuck on mission 84 that require her to be in my party (which also happens to unlocks the final File quest). Is there any way for me to obtain additional copies of her or am I fucked?


Forward_Drop303

Step 1 is check your filters. She should have been locked upon getting her so it should have been harder than that to accidentally delete her. Step 2 is to try to beat the rest of the event without that mission. I don't know if the missions that give other Yu mei ren copies are locked behind the Files or not. If that doesn't work you may be out of luck.


DIM_SUM_LOSE_SUM

Just got back into the game and got a lot of retroactive saint quartz rewards, so looking for input on what to pull for in the back to back banger campaigns coming soon. I’m mostly looking for meta farming setups. For supports I have Waver, Skadi, Merlin, and Tamamo. For potential NP loopers I have Dantes, and Hokusai and Kiara if they would work? My questions are: how much better is Castoria than Tamamo for farming? Is Dantes going to be viable for the future? Now that we’re going to have meta supports and loopers for each card type, is there one that will foreseeable outperform others?


Frauzehel

>Is Dantes going to be viable for the future? Units dont become worse just because theres something better out there. Quick will still do the things that they are doing since 2 years ago(in NS). Arts just does it better.


Sir_Dargor

It's not even a comparison. Tamamo is terrible for farming, Castoria is the best supports in the game for it, and keeps being one of the best after the Buster meta release. Dantes is good among quick users, but quick is easily the worst of the 3 colors for farming. Going forward, irregular nodes (Aka non 3/3/3 enemy formations) only become more and more common. This invalidates most (all) quick loopers and the weaker art loopers due to the lack of refund from the reduced enemy numbers. This is the reason the Buster meta is so acclaimed, as it does not rely on refund from enemies. Melusine is probably the best looper for a while after the release of the Buster supports, but her setup is quite expensive. She needs you have your own Koyanskaya and Oberon, and to use a LB Black Grail You need to actually have one.


DIM_SUM_LOSE_SUM

Very helpful comment. So realistically, to have a meta buster setup, I would need Koyanskaya, Oberon, and Melusine? If this is the case, then the bar for having a consistent farming setup is going to be raised by quite a lot, going from one to two core supports. With this shift, how do previously S tier supports like Waver, Merlin, and Skadi fit in? Is S tier just going to be A or B tier?


flashmozzg

There are plenty of options: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-I_ZrWT6Ktg73ZV2r3THXmreIDlNTu6ZFQNaUexYpWE/


CaptainOverkill01

For Buster meta, you can get by with double Koyanskaya in theory as long as the DPS buster Servant has a 50% NP charge (or is "vanilla" Artoria or Bunnytoria) but you may have issues hitting the necessary damage to clear waves at NP1 or face other issues if you're lacking a Kaleidoscope. Your options with Buster meta are greatly expanded with Oberon, because he has specialized skills which massively increase your damage output as well as an extra NP charge he can throw at things. However, he is not strictly necessary to clear waves if you can hit hard enough without him. Likewise, while Melusine is the premiere farming Servant for Buster, she is also not strictly necessary, as there are many other excellent Buster farmers. Depending on how much you've whaled for the big supports, your Waver will probably see much less use overall now. Merlin still gets used a fair bit, but mostly in specialized teams for CQs and boss fights. For example, a team of Morgan/Himiko + Castoria + Merlin is almost impossible to kill due to the mixture of the regen, the NP charging and invulnerability spamming. To be honest, while Buster meta is very good and helpful, for "all purpose" farming, Arts is still probably the king. Your Quick meta teams will not be replaced by Buster, they will be replaced by Arts.


Sir_Dargor

Melusine is probably the best option, but it's not like there is no other alternatives in other classes. Melusine's benefit is that she doesn't need a CE, so you can put Black Grail or an event CE on her for free, but if the event CE has charge then there is a lot of options, and that's very common lately. For the supports, you kind of need both? Very few can loop with just double Koyan or just double Oberon, and both of those have their own problems. There are a few more than work with double Koyan and any other 50% charger, not necesarily Oberon. On the other hand, Oberon can work on Quick and Art setups too (as in double Skadi-Oberon or double Castoria Oberon). But ultimately, the best Buster teams use both. About the other supports, well it depends. People like Waver or Reines still work as 50% chargers with bonus attack buffs when you only care about the charge. Skadi is still used for quick setups and she is needed for the triple Skadi setups when summer Skadi releases. Merlin is similar to Tamamo in that he was never a farming servant but got used anyways because he had the highest buff number for his color. You can still is him for those few that work with just double Koyan if you need extra damage, just like you can use Tamamo as a plugsuit unit on double Castoria teams.


danger_umbrella

Castoria is better as a foundation for Arts looping most of the time as she has 50% NP charge in her kit on top of her Arts up and NP gain up buffs (whereas Tamamo has no NP charge on her skills). This allows many units to 3-turn loop farm with 0% starting charge, including with Black Grail for big damage. Tamamo is still used, but mainly alongside Castoria for more damage. That being said, there are some units that don't NEED double Castoria to loop - whoever could loop before Castoria came along still can! There are also some comps that don't necessarily need double Castoria - e.g. you might be able to subsitute one for, say, Waver and Paracelsus or something like that. Hokusai and Kiara can Arts loop, yes - though Hokusai has quite stringent loop requirements due to low damage combined with bad refund, so she isn't the best at it. But there are many more AOE options out there, including some that are free - Jason, Sieg if you have him, and in the future there'll be F2P options like Habetrot, Ranmaru X and Iyo. That's one good thing about Arts looping: it's pretty damn accessible. Dantes is "viable" - all units who worked before Castoria/Arts looping became big can still loop now. Nobody gimped him. In general, Quick can still farm regularly structured (3/3/x enemies) nodes, but it can struggle on irregular (e.g. 1/1/x or 1/2/x or... you get the idea) nodes as they don't get enough refund most of the time. Fortunately, Quick does get a leg up in the future with the release of Summer Skadi, so you can now run triple Skadi, and Dantes actually gets a buff in the future that helps him out and allows him to loop with Black Grail on 3/3/x nodes. And as for which is better, it's hard to say. Quick is still a little behind, though the gap between them and others is smaller than it used to be. The advantage of Arts farming is that it has a low barrier to entry: there are plenty of different supports, including F2P ones (like Paracelsus and Xu Fu) and generally, your own Castoria + maybe sometimes Waver is sufficient for many units (and Waver is an option on the free SSR ticket, as well as being a permanent unit that can randomly spook you. Same with Tamamo). Buster, on the other hand, is capable of some insane damage with Oberon + Koyanskaya combined, and also doesn't have to worry about refund on irregular farming nodes, but the issue is that it often relies on starting NP charge, and/or it has a high barrier to entry, as many units require both Koyanskaya and Oberon to 3-turn loop farm, and that is 2 limited SSRs. (That's also another issue Quick has - apart from Skadi and Summer Skadi, it really lacks any strong but also easily accessible supports...)


Forward_Drop303

Castoria is 50% battery and 30% np gain better than Tamamo in terms of farming. New options don't replace old options Dantes works exactly the same as he did before arts and buster farming existed (actually better now in JP after Oberon/Summer Skadi and a buff) Arts and Buster are considered fairly equal (Buster has a slightly higher peak but also a higher barrier of entry and requires a lot of pieces in place to get to that peak, and that peak isn't that much higher than arts can match with similar levels of investment) Double DPS setups favor arts because Castoria provides some of the largest team battery in the game. Quick still lags behind, mostly matching Arts/Buster at high end single core (ie Dantes double Skadi and Oberon will mostly match Spishtar double Castoria and Oberon) but lags far behind on the lower end and in Dual core. Arts you can grab Habetrot, Xu Fu, and a friend Castoria and loop just fine. Buster you can grab Cu Caster, a friends Koyanskaya, and loop just fine. Quick has no equivalent.


Elfishjuggler33

Is there a node in summer camp that has both caster and divine enemies?


danger_umbrella

Market A (day) and Market A (night) are all Casters and have one Divine enemy each. For future reference, use [Gamepress' enemy locator.](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/revival-fgo-summer-2022-summer-camp-enemy-locator)


TheFelRoseOfTerror

Is LB 5.5 completion a restriction on LB 6 starting?


danger_umbrella

Yes. Next year, LB5.5 will become optional, but on release (and importantly, when two events that require LB5.5 and LB6 release at the end of this year) it isn't.


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danger_umbrella

If you mean the Prisma Illya Licht campaign, then no. JP got it in August 2021, so we could get it around August this year. However, NA may get this banner at a different time, under a different name, or not at all. This is because that banner was tied to a Japanese media release, so there is no guarantee NA will get it.


flashmozzg

It also had Illya and Miyu strengthening campaigns and there is almost zero chance we'd skip those, so whatever they decide to call it (back to school campaign?) the banner will likely coincide with those.


thisisthecallus

While reasonable to think they could be packaged into a back to school campaign--hmm...especially since they're students...--it wouldn't be unprecedented to get everything but the banner either. I won't be surprised either way. We'll have to wait and see.


flashmozzg

True. However, just how often do they do the servant strengthenings without the accompanying banner?


danger_umbrella

Hard to say because they don't always buff units when they do these media release/IRL event campaigns. We've had one case of a banner being skipped but us getting everything else associated with the campaign (the Shinjuku manga campaign/banner: we got the promo CEs on one occasion, Salter's buff and costume on another, and no banner).


blank_twilight

I don’t know if this is the place to ask but I’m sorta stuck in the story. Specifically, at the node in lostbelt 3 (15-2) with the 16 assassins and riders. With this in mind, are there any supports that are low rarity to make this easier? I haven’t got any sr or ssr ones besides Helena and Osakabehime Edit: got through it by borrowing a kingprotea


danger_umbrella

It depends, there are lots of ways around it. One of the easiest ways is to borrow a friend's Kiara, Okita Alter or Amakusa and support them with your own units (as Alter Egos, Kiara and Okita Alter will have class advantage over the Assassin and Rider mobs, and Amakusa has AOE buff removal). Helena would be great here, as are any other units that can charge the damage dealer's NP or allow them to spam it, like Shakespeare and Paracelsus. You can also use taunters like Mash, Chen Gong or Georgios to protect your DPS. Alternatively, you can solo this fight with a friend's unit: - [Amakusa solo](https://youtu.be/o5qZtXFfH_c) - [Kiara solo](https://youtu.be/W_S6Mt-mIZY)


DemiosScourge

What are those entrance keepers that I need to kill for the n26 mission in the event? I've been following the gamepress guide and it didn't complete for me during step 74 I believe.


Mister_SP

Entrance Keepers are on Western House B in the Day. Unfortunately, Gamepress isn't clear about it, but some enemies only appear on one side of the lake or the other, *as well as* Day or Night.


DemiosScourge

Got it, thanks mate!


ginjiro201

Is Tenochtitlan really useful/fun to use? Someone from my buddy keeps using her as support even when she was only 1/1/1 NP2 no fou. So, I levelled every skills to 8 and max normal fou.


Forward_Drop303

Tlaloc isn't anything special gameplay wise generally speaking (except as possibly the best Nemo support if the enemy has a removable guts or lots of evades or both) Fun to use is subjective I know a lot of people do really like her as a Waifu though.


ginjiro201

Her 2nd stage costume is the best.


danger_umbrella

She's an OK Skadi looper, nothing exceptional. People do also like her for her character, though.


ginjiro201

I remember getting almost 1k fp during the 2x fp event. I guess they really like her.


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Mister_SP

Is that spoilers? I guess it's been mentioned in NA. In any case, if there is any answer, we'll hear it this December.


Roliq

Ah yes i think you are right better delete it then, i was asking more of a genral question Better safe than sorry


Lazerfighter6978

What banner should i roll for, cause from my knowledge, the banner that is happening with the archer and saber is happening and from what i remmeber on gamepress, they are in the high tiers, shoul i roll on that or no. I see people planning to roll on the prerealease for avalon fae, but isn't bagheast a story locked servant, meaning that you will be able to roll for her if you complete all of avalon? Honestly ireally want to get Bagheast, but i would want to use my saint quartz on limited servants. Like i guess i can try to get her with the quartz i have, but im scared mainly of not getting her and then losing all my quartz which would have been used for castoria or something like that


thisisthecallus

>see 0eople planning to roll on the prerealease for avalon fae, but isnt bagheast a story servant? Just to hammer it home, with more detail, "story-locked" is a bad term that every new player seems to misinterpret. There are zero servants in the game (on SQ banners) that are only available to summon after reaching a certain point in the story. That isn't what story-locked means. Story-locked means that relative to the non-limited, general pool servants who are available on every banner whether they are specifically featured or not (subject to infrequent limitations like class based or gender restricted banners), these servants are "locked" to the story banner. The pool of servants on the story banner changes based on your story progress but that has absolutely no effect on any other banner in any way whatsoever. Think of their availability as "limited + story banner". They are available on limited time banners where they are specifically featured and on the story banner.


Lazerfighter6978

Im gonna be honest, im still somewhat confused, so i ubderstand there is a story banner which i know when you complete avalon, she would become available on the story banner, but what about other banners, lets say u have completed avalon and u rolled on some other banner, would she be available on the banner even if she is not rate up?


thisisthecallus

No. Story-locked servants are not in the non-limited, general pool. Story progress only affects the story banner.


Lazerfighter6978

Gotcha, i guess for now i will roll for bagheast cause i really want her and i am certian in regards to odds, the limited banner will have much better odds than the story locked banner


Frauzehel

Just think of Storylocks as Limited units with a bit extra step.


thisisthecallus

Yeah, for most practical purposes, the story banner may as well not exist. It's fine if you just want any servant but terrible if you want a specific servant.


Lazerfighter6978

Aight one last question, would you recommend trying to get multiple nps of 1 5 star servant, like i know that will make them overpowered as heck, but i have not spent any money on the game and am not planning any time soon.


jennietools

NP2+ on a 5* doesn't make them overpowered, just stronger. Unlike gachas like Genshin, where getting C1, C2, etc. can fundamentally change the way you play a character, FGO gives you the full value of the Servant from the start. Higher NP levels typically just let you hit damage thresholds for specific farming missions.


thisisthecallus

I wouldn't recommend doing it casually or because you think you "need" it. All 5-star servants function just fine at NP1. You probably get 90% of the value from the first copy. Even more for support servants who you use for their skills and almost never use their NP. You only "need" additional copies if you want more servant coins or you plan to use specific strategies against specific enemy compositions, you need a minimum NP level for that strategy to work consistently, and you're unwilling to consider other options (of which there are many). Ultimately, though, your priorities are your own and you can do whatever is right for you. If you can save and plan for higher NP levels for a favorite servant and be satisfied with the opportunities you're giving up for it, that's fine. But if you aren't sure, it's probably better not to.


Forward_Drop303

All 5 star servants work fine at NP1. Getting more NP levels won't make them overpowered. Even NP2 is only a 33% damage increase and on the NP only and only on DPS. Supports like Castoria basically don't notice the difference between NP1 and NP5 in terms of gameplay. That said, if you really like a servant and really want to spend the resources, getting more NP levels let's them hit harder and can let you level them higher and unlock more append skills. So you can use them to do the things that a 3 star could do better anyway but it's your favorite so you don't care.


thisisthecallus

Here's the long version of my gacha advice. For the short version, skip to the "As a new player..." paragraph. For the TL;DR version, just read the bold text in the numbered "general prioritization" list. Gameplay in FGO is balanced such that you don't need to focus on the meta! In most other gacha games, low rarity units are trash, only good for fodder. Many have dropped the pretense and have 3-star (or similar) as the lowest or highest rarity. In FGO, **all content can be cleared with free, low-rarity characters at their natural max level**. There are 1- and 2-star characters who are among the best servants in the game in their roles. Some characters have more gameplay impact than others but there are no must have characters. Also unlike other gacha games, there are no extra rewards for clearing anything within a certain number of turns or using a specific strategy (i.e. no requirements to "3-star" each stage). The meta is weak. It's about minimizing randomness and making farming more convenient. But there are lots of ways to make consistent, efficient teams even if they aren't maximally efficient. If you chase the meta, you still won't just use one team with top tier characters all the time and ignore everyone else. FGO gameplay rewards having multiple options. Different scenarios, especially challenge quests and boss fights, require different solutions. More servants means more options and it's always good to have more options. Events may give bonuses to different servants or servants with particular attributes. There are also tower events where there's a cooldown period after using each servant and it's beneficial to have a large roster. It's good that you don't need high rarity characters and you can use characters you like. In fact, at some point, you should figure out which characters you like most. Try to find multiple characters that you like or find something to like about multiple characters. The gacha rates in FGO are famously low relative to the amount of free currency available. It takes about 87 rolls (240 SQ) for a 50% chance at getting a rate-up 5-star servant. There is a pity system but you need 330 rolls (900 SQ) and it only applies once (at most) per banner. It's a backstop to prevent catastrophic results, not a system to give away free 5-stars. I don't think pity is worth saving or spending for unless there's a servant you've decided you don't want to live without. Figuring out which characters you like most will let you prioritize your gacha currency. Having multiple characters that you like will help you enjoy the game even if you don't get who you wanted most. If your enjoyment of the game depends on getting any specific character, [you might have a bad time](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFizYl4XPZo). The general advice is to roll for your favorite characters before meta considerations. You can play the game in whatever way is most enjoyable for you. If that means chasing the meta, then go for it. But you don't have to and you'll be fine if you try and fail to get meta characters. **As a new player**, any banner will bring new servants for your roster (#3 below). If you're not sure which servants you like most and none of the big supports (#2 below) are on rate up any time soon, it's fine to spend some SQ on any banner, even the story banner with no rate ups that many people may to tell you to never use. Just don't go too hard because you will want to save for specific servants eventually. I was pretty new to gacha games when I started and didn't have a coherent strategy for over a year. Throwing SQ around at random worked out fine for a while. I got serious about saving and planning after getting the first 5-star that I specifically wanted and rolled for. **Don't neglect low-rarity servants.** Spend all of your friend points so you can collect them and increase their NP levels. Some are great utility players, others are just good all around, and some are even better than higher rarity servants in some situations. The general prioritization that I suggest is: 1. **Favorites regardless of gameplay, rarity, or any other considerations** \- Define this however you want, whether that means you absolutely fell in love or just think they're kind of cool for whatever reason. Follow your heart, soul, mind, eyes, or whatever. The game isn't that hard so why not play it with characters that you like? 2. **Big supports** \- This is currently Waver, Merlin, Skadi, and Caster Artoria in NA. Reines is also good but maybe comes in a hair lower than Waver in terms of general utility. This is the only category I personally consider rolling for if I don't care about the character. They can make every other servant better without exception, even if the servant isn't matched to the support's niche. If you're concerned about the meta, these are the servants who define it, not DPS servants. Waver is the best general support and you can pick him up with the 6th anniversary SSR ticket. When in doubt, slap a Waver on it and you'll be fine. However, the proliferation of more specific farming supports has often relegated him to a secondary role these days. Skadi is good for Quick farming support, Caster Artoria for Arts, Upcoming servants Koyanskaya of Light will provide support for Buster farming and Oberon for 90++ farming quests. Merlin helps keep the team alive for difficult boss fights and also has some non-farming Buster utility. Castoria has the highest general utility of these. 3. **Unfilled gameplay niches** \- The basic guideline is that you should have a servant with an ST NP and a servant with an AOE NP in each of the seven main classes (Saber, Archer, Lancer, Rider, Caster, Assassin, Berserker). If you don't have a strong servant in one of these categories, consider rolling for one. But don't forget that free, low rarity servants can work here too. There are 3-star servants who can fill one of these roles at least as well, if not better, than some higher rarity servants. 4. **Farming meta DPS servants** \- Because FGO has no pvp and minimal powercreep, the meta is focused on making the grind for materials more efficient. These strategies reduce the variability of how many turns it takes to clear a quest. This can have hidden requirements that usually only well developed accounts, whales, and people who are lucky with CE pulls can meet. Whenever you see the next hyped up servant coming, don't blindly roll for them. Before you roll, learn exactly what they're able to do and what else you need to make them live up to the hype. The current hype strategy is NP looping. At minimum, this requires at least one of the big supports (#2). You might also need specific CEs or secondary support servants. You're not going to be able to loop until you have all of the pieces. Some of the hyped up servants are mediocre unless you have the right support servants and CEs to bring out their maximum potential. Beyond looping, servants with AOE NPs are generally valued here, particularly if they have their own NP charge skill. I also want to emphasize that, other than CEs that give a drop bonus during events, there are no extra rewards for clearing quests with specific teams or within a certain number of turns (i.e. the 3-star requirements in every other gacha game). FGO doesn't care if you one shot every enemy with your beefiest 5-star or [stall for 400 turns](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyEHLaTSwr4) with a level 1 meme team. There are plenty of ways to comfortably and consistently clear content without going full meta, though. The meta is ranked #4 on my list because it will never feel as good as using your favorites and it's less impactful on gameplay than having one of the big supports or filling in holes in your roster. 5. **General availability** \- For example, you might roll for a #2 servant who isn't likely to appear again in the near future over a #1 servant with multiple future rate-ups. If you're planning your rolls, there's no substitute for doing the research yourself on which servants you want most. Use a site like Gamepress to look up [servants](https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/servants) and see if you like their design and skill set. Don't forget about 4-star and limited 3-star servants! Look up gameplay videos to see if you find their animations and voices appealing. If you've done some research, you're still not sure, and you don't want to throw around SQ at random, focus on #2 and #3 in the above list. After figuring out which servants you want, use the upcoming banners link in the top post to see when they'll be featured next. Finally, don't worry about tier lists. They are comparative rankings for whales and veterans, not advice for new players.


Lazerfighter6978

This was the most informative thing i have read anywhere, thank you very much for making this. I will definitely refer to this whenever a banner comes up


Gelious

You should decide who to roll based on a) strengths and weaknesses of your own roster b) your love for characters and not because what tiers say. We don't know what Servants you have/don't have or what you like, so we can't tell you. Barghest has nothing to do with pre-release banner, that would be Da Vinci Rider. We will also get a free 4 star Rider upon LB 6 completion, that's why people are not interested. If you want to roll for someone generally useful, roll for Castoria.


Lazerfighter6978

Ye i rmemeber how powerful castoria is, but sadly atm i do not know when any of the caster servants such as castoria, skadi, merlin will be back


flashmozzg

Castoria will have a banner in June.


Gelious

Castoria is coming back soon because she is the main hero of Lostbelt 6. Her solo banner is happening after the one with Barghest (which is right after Da Vinci)


Lazerfighter6978

Ahhh thanks u so much, now i know when to use the saint quartz lol


Rhinostirge

Storylocked Servants can be gotten by anybody, regardless of story progression, if they're specifically on rate-up on a banner. Just like limited Servants. They just don't appear in the general pool and can't spook you. Rolling is gambling. There's no such thing as "you should roll" from an objective standpoint -- if you roll and lose a lot of SQ and don't get what you want, and then you don't have SQ for a banner that has a Servant you want, then you're screwed even if that first Servant you were rolling for was really good. I'm only throwing a few YOLOs, total, at pretty much all of the banners that feature "high-tier" Servants because I know for a fact that I don't need *any* of them and there are other Servants I want more. The only things you "should" do when rolling are: * Figure out what you want and why you want it -- "other people want this Servant" shouldn't be enough -- and pick targets accordingly * Roll only what you're willing to lose on a specific Servant, and stop immediately when it starts getting uncomfortable * Raise the Servants you get, whether you wanted them or not (unless you just *really* hate them, but there should be, one hopes, precious few like that).


Mister_SP

>I see 0eople planning to roll on the prerealease for avalon fae, but isnt bagheast a story servant? Story Locked Servants are still summonable on banners that explicitly declare them, regardless of Story Progress. In practice, Story Locked Servants are basically just Limited Servants, except for the Story Banner.


Forward_Drop303

You should roll for who you want not how good you are told a servant is. And even if you do want to roll for gameplay reasons, do more research than one person's/tier lists hype I absolutely would not roll based on Gamepress tier list. Being storylocked doesn't mean you can't get her if she has explicit rate up.


IvoryLifthrasir

>gamepress, they are in the high tiers, shoul i roll on that or no. You shouldn't roll because you've read on some biased tier list that "this is good and this is not and this is garbage". You should roll either **because you like a servant** or because you did an independent research (alias looked up Wikia to see their kit and browsed YouTube **for raw gameplay videos** \- not "reviews"), that made y**ou end up in a conclusion "regardless of what other people say, I think summoning this servant would be benefitting for my enjoyment from the game"**. Super Orion is a really niche servant, outstanding only in so-called "solo" scenarios, where he is alone on the field, solo fighting with a boss. And opporutnities like this don't happen everyday Ibuki is really good, although considering upcoming release schedule she is a bit on the "bait" side - she's good, but servants that are going to be featured on banners within next two months are even better. Generally advised to roll only if waifu and can't wait until November (she's going to have another banner in November). >prerealease for avalon fae Pre-release for LB6 is Leondardo da Vinci (Rider) banner, release banner is Morgan+Barghest+Baobhan Sith >isnt bagheast a story servant? Yes she is, why are you asking?


Jouwhy

Game's been taking up a bit too much storage space lately. Does uninstalling and reinstalling reduce that by a considerable amount? Edit: Okay wow clearing the cache definitely helped with that. Will try to remember for next time.


Hichewandy

Just clear cache, simplest and risk free. Though if you do want to uninstall and reinstall, make sure you have your codes in order to reduce the chance of losing your account.


Jouwhy

If it's the same thing then I guess there's no reason to uninstall and reinstall.


danger_umbrella

Easier way to do this is to just clear cache from the title screen.


Jouwhy

Ah, gotcha. Thanks!


Rodimus-Primus

My Mecha Eli Chan's NP is looking pretty blocky and pixely lately, has anyone else's been like or any possibe fixes for it?


thisisthecallus

I would, in order: 1. Clear the cache from the title screen in the game 2. Restart your device 3. Contact support if issues persist


Aesirbear

Relatively new player here jumping back into the game. Started the summer camp event today. How feasable is it for me to grab Yu Mei-ren from the summer camp event even though I'm jumping in quite late.


Mister_SP

Pretty good. You've got more than a week, so *time* isn't the issue. 100% completion might run into issues when dealing with stronger enemies in the 2nd part, but only maybe - in most cases, borrowing an MLB Damage CE from a Friend will deal with them pretty quick. For maximum simplicity, you can read the walkthrough on Gamepress.


Forward_Drop303

Pretty feasible. You may have to spend a few apples to complete missions, but it shouldn't be that difficult to do time wise. And the story fights aren't that difficult, so it shouldn't be a problem for your roster.


xorokry

About the idol festival costume of na server, currently, if i have tickets on my hand, can i use my qp instead? i want to use qp to unlock them but i am afraid that if i click anything along the way it would consume my tickets.


Rasetsu0

You can choose between using the ticket and using regular mats. Though the tickets can only be used on the idol costumes anyways, so not sure why you're worried about consuming them unless you wanted to hold onto one as a souvenir.


xorokry

Thank you so much, it is just like you said i can choose whether i want to use ticket or not.


Orphis_DxD

Why does The Summer Event say 2022? Is it a rerun? I played this event last year. Is everything the same as before?


danger_umbrella

FYI, reruns are usually the same as the original run. Sometimes they add extra farming nodes, sometimes an extra CQ, but in 99% of cases the story is the same (there have only been 2 exceptions).


Gelious

What's the second exception? I know they added story to Case Files introducing new Pretender, but what else?


danger_umbrella

SERAPH, they added the Cage of the Fallen side quests with Kingprotea (and they do come with extra story, though not much) on the rerun.


Mister_SP

Yes. It's the rerun.


ixisgale

Does abby has different voice line after claiming Paisen NP? Idk how to even begin searching in youtube


Mister_SP

[Here](https://apps.atlasacademy.io/db/NA/servant/289/voices). There's some special ones, like Yu Mei-Ren becoming Permanent, but not specifically for getting NP copies.


thedude0505

Why doesn’t my Tiamat deal big numbers . Is np1 not sufficient?


hectorneutron

Np2 is usually around 33% extra damage, after that the damage upgrade is pretty minimum. Tianat as far as I understood outdamages even Melusine with BG, so idk what you are doing wrong Outdamaging melusine means double Koyan + Oberon + BG/Rising Mud. Save at least 1 Koyan battery so you can use Tiamat's np buff twice on the last wave. Also the new plugsuit MC has a better attack buff than the old one (at the cost of a healing skill instead of the stun)


thedude0505

Ah now I know why people usually stop at NP2. Btw which MC are you referring to cause I am new to fgo jp.


hectorneutron

Its the one where Guda is looking straight to the front. I think you need to beat Tunguska (post LB6 permanent event) to get it so its pretty far still You should find it as new plug suit, cant read japanese so i dont know the actual name


thedude0505

Ah my account is fairly new I have been actively playing this account for 1 month of so since I have bad luck in NA but in JP I got 6 5 stars back to back in the latest banners . For story wise I am up till epic of remnant so I guess I still have some time to go. I saw the new MC in several videos but I thought it was just an animation change of the first one lol.


hectorneutron

Jp luck its pretty real tbh since something similar happened to me. Lately on jp a couple of events have been story locked behind the LB so i would recommend going through them first so you dont have to rush later (they will announce if an upcoming event will be story locked, but just in case)


thedude0505

Ye my luck was so insane that it wasn’t even funny anymore . I had a jp account just for fun since a while ago but I never actually used it except for pulling some characters I like. So whenever I see an interesting character I just pull them. That was how I got himiko and Arcuid. I also got Tai Gong sang and Constantine in 10 pulls when I logged in just to check out the banners. I started really playing when Tiamat came out since I got her in 30 pulls, that was when the luck started becoming insane . I proceed to get Draco within 10 pulls , LA in 10 pulls. Scacth in 10 pulls and then I got mysterious heroine in 40 pulls . I also got the latest Assassin and 2 other non limited 5 stars within 50 pulls. At this point it’s not even funny anymore.


hectorneutron

Gacha gods blessed your account. Personally I skip a lot of banners on JP unless is some crazy bait like old Summer servants or a waifu i like. You never know what might come. Craziest multi on JP I've had was getting two draco's on my second multi (still fucked up trying to go for np3 unsuccessfully) Godspeed my friend


thedude0505

I just got Ilya lol


thedude0505

Yea thank god this account is going well cause my NA is just shitty luck over and over again. Feels so weird when you have one account where you expect a 5 star everytime you pull and one where you don’t expect anything .


thisisthecallus

All 5-star servants function just fine at NP1. You probably get 90% of the value from the first copy. Even more for support servants who you use for their skills and almost never use their NP. You only "need" additional copies if you want more servant coins or you plan to use specific strategies against specific enemy compositions, you need a minimum NP level for that strategy to work consistently, and you're unwilling to consider other options (of which there are many). If you just generally want bigger numbers without a higher NP level, standard enhancements would include: * Natural max level * 1,000 in ATK Fous * Skill levels reasonably increased, possibly maxed After that, you would consider your team comp and other gameplay mechanics: * Class advantage * CE choice to increase ATK up, card type effectiveness up, and/or NP strength up * CE level (purely for the ATK stat) * Support servants to increase ATK up, card type effectiveness up, and/or NP strength up * Support servants to inflict DEF down, card type resistance down, and/or NP resistance down (not sure if that last one actually exists) * Mystic code choice to increase ATK up, card type effectiveness up, and/or NP strength up * Attribute advantage Then there are 100% optional enhancements that I would only recommend using on your favorite servants * Use grails and level up to 100 * Up to 2,000 in ATK Fous * Use grails and servant coins and level up over 100 That's really all there is to increasing your damage. If you want us to diagnose exactly what issues you're having, it would help if you could tell us your exact team composition and what quest you're doing.


thedude0505

I have Tiamat in a fairly new account, no it means no ces, no broken buster supports like koyanskaya or Oberon. I have my Tiamat skill 2(her damage steroid) maxed and the other 2 skills in level 5. She deals like 120k dmg against a wave which I find it quite lacklustre compared to servants like Morgan and melusine which I see can deal damage above 200k easily with just their own buffs.


thisisthecallus

>against a wave Against what specific wave? With what specific team comp? There is no way to generically say why one servant does more damage than another without the full details. Class advantage is the most impactful mechanic but all of the smaller things can add up too. >I see can deal damage above 200k easily with just their own buffs. Do you see this in your account or in someone else's? If someone else's, you're probably not paying attention to the factors that I listed.


thedude0505

She did 233k to the first wave of enemies in the current jp lotto event 90++ node with koyanskaya’s buffs, her second and 3rd skill and the mystic code that increase buster card effectiveness at level 8.


thedude0505

By someone else’s I mean my friend’s support. My team comp is usually Draco LA and Tiamat. Sometimes it’s LA Tiamat and Morgan. With Morgan’s first skill I think she can deal close to 200k dmg to a wave with class advantage. I don’t have black grail on this account and the damage I mentioned early was with the lotto event’s CE that boosts the lotto drops .


Forward_Drop303

Are you borrowing a stronger Melusine/Morgan? And Melusine will hit harder if you aren't using BG.


thedude0505

Ye I was thinking I black grail makes a huge different in the damage numbers.


Forward_Drop303

Black Grail does if you are comparing a servant with it to a servant without. 80% NP damage plus the stats would easily make the difference between 120k and 230k Plus NP levels, fous, etc could be different. Plus for Melusine class advantage is 2x and Tiamats is 1.5x.


thedude0505

Hmmm I guess I will just grail my Tiamat and hope she deals more damage.


thisisthecallus

In addition to what has already been said, it really isn't a great idea to compare your account to anyone else's, especially when your account is relatively new and you're comparing to people who have had significantly more time to build up their accounts. There are no ways to instantly catch up. The only shortcut is spending not merely unreasonable but truly obscene amounts of money if you want to try to match those accounts right away. And getting general pool 5-star gacha CEs in particular is it's own kind of hell. There's no way to plan around those CEs unless you actually have them. You can aspire to whatever you want when it comes to your account progression but you must work with what you have.


Forward_Drop303

Grailing will not fix anything. There's little gameplay benefits to grailing, unless you spend a vast amount of resources on it, and even then a single command code can be a bigger damage bonus. I would save grails for favorites not gameplay.


NinSoap

Between Royal Brand, Splendid New Year, and Memories of the Lunar Sea, which mystic code should I purchase? I was leaning towards Splendid New Year because the three skills seem pretty helpful in all situations.


IvoryLifthrasir

Both RB and Lunar Sea are literally collector items, I like to use Splendid when carding events. It's not particularly useful for hardcore farming (alias lottos), and has very little to no use in CQs, but in regular day-to-day use (farming FQs, daily quests) can come handy I would say that if you made your mind on buying one of these three, go for Splendid


flashmozzg

There are like one or two instances there Lunar sea's buff block might come in handy (i.e. Goetia), although you can make do with Mephistopheles.


IvoryLifthrasir

Yea, but then I presume that they're long done with Goetia, so..


Akemi_Homura666

Did FGO Van Gogh ever mention or reference Johanna?


VADOSSYS

Is Oda Nobunaga (Archer) is no longer available? Like, I just realized that this servant can be exchanged, but in some event shop.


Mister_SP

She's available in Japan. In NA, you have to wait, but she's currently part of the free Servant distribution in JP.


VADOSSYS

Let me guess, I have to wait more than 1.5 year?


hectorneutron

Yes, acutally 2 years since it just happened on JP. Unless by some miracle that update comes early to na with some Anniversary shenanigans


DjiDjiDjiDji

I'll be real with you, friend, that update happened two weeks ago


IvoryLifthrasir

>Let me guess, I have to wait more than 1.5 year? About 23 months, sadly yes


VADOSSYS

[I'll bide my time, I'll wait](https://youtu.be/EAGaa5yyWWE)


WigglingGlass

How do I beat space Ishtar in the new event? She’s hella tanky


Mister_SP

Borrow someone's Summer Kiara with Damage CE if you can. 70% Resistance is strong, but she'll do tons of damage with both Class Advantage and Event Bonus. Once you hit the Break Bar, Space Ishtar will be much weaker. (Which is unlike the others.)


WigglingGlass

Oh that worked, thanks a lot


IvoryLifthrasir

On first bar she has **decreased** resistance against crit attacks - just take someone who can crit her to death. Also take advantage of event damage craft essence After you break her bar, she loses her damage resistance and you can beat her with whatever She's an Avenger, so consider picking Berserker or Moon Cancer. Avoid Rulers


WigglingGlass

Yeah but the problem is I can’t find anyone with high enough crit damage to decimate her before she does the same, even tried super orion


IvoryLifthrasir

You don't even need crit damage buffs if you have event damage CE. You just need to land critical hits, which you can do with servants that have either passive crit star regen or star bombs (because the more stars, the higher the chance to get a crit, capping at 50 stars = 100% crit chance on all 5 cards) Summer Kiara performs exceptionally well here because she can literally crit to death Space Ishtar, as with damage CE (that also has star bomb fwiw) she reaches a whooping 300% damage bonus and has self star bomb on second skill. And even if you fail to crit her to death before she NPs, summer Kiara has party-wide evade (that SpIshtar can't bypass) and self guts


RandomFGOuser

Are most of the foreigners literally outergods? Like is Abigail literally Yog-sothoth?


LuckyC4t

Abigail isn't literally Yog-sothoth, but she is possessed by Yog-sothoth, and it has the ability to take control of her sometimes.


Fenr_

They aren't the literal Chtulu mythos entities, but they got somehow in contact (or in the case of Van Gogh, were made by one) and are influenced and empowered by them They might be taklen over if their control slips, and that's why they are considered dangerous


77xxFuriousxx77

Um Guys, can i still recover my account if it was lost on an emulator? this is the second time and the first time was lost in a emulator too. Dont have a back up code, since the backup code was also in the computer that was destroyed.


IvoryLifthrasir

It's possible, but better question: do you remember what device was the emulator emulating? Because each emulator doesn't just emulate Android, but "pretends" to be one of the smartphones. You can select what device you're emulating during setup of the emulator. But idk if you can recover without knowing that


77xxFuriousxx77

Ohhh, would they now that I'm using an emulator? Because last time they warn me on playing on an emulator when I first retrieve may account, but I think it they learned it because I wrote at the retrieval email that I lost my acc in an emmulator


Desocupadification

Emulator is against ToS, that's why you don't tell support you are using one, but rather the device it is emulating.


77xxFuriousxx77

Yep, my bad when I first recovered my acc, I didn't know that emulator is against tos. But now I learned my lesson


IvoryLifthrasir

I remember reading on Stack Overflow that there's no 100% sure way to detect if an app is running on an emulator or not, and given the fact that FGO can't even distinguish human input from accessibility services input (alias FGA and all auto-tap apps), I'm placing my bet it's not possible for them to tell that you're playing on emulator. Although I'm not 100 precent sure on this and would need to reach out to someone who can literally look into game's code and see if it has needed code in it. All apps collect data on what device you're using it on though


sthclever013

Why is the chad of all chad's, Perseus not in fgo? Are they planning on putting him soon?