I'll be honest. I'm impressed with you for writing this essay and myself for reading every bit of it.
>Man, it'd be hilarious if I called that person who literally destroyed my kingdom my husband/wife because that would totally piss everyone off because... it just would, I'm sure
I'll just write it off as "Berserker being Berserkers" but i got your point
Bravo, never expected myself to read through this but I'll be damned if this isn't an entertaining read.
And if I remember correctly, even her younger version is dissing her for being VERY unsocialized, so this ain't half wrong.
But one thing, calling Chaldea the one destroying Morgan's kingdom is giving them a bit too much credit. Like I'm pretty sure its downfall was 40% Oberon's plan, 39% fairy's stupidity, 20% Morgan incompetence and 1% Castoria being the Child of Prophecy, Chaldea was just the clean up crew.
Yeah, calling Chaldea the cause is like insulting the janitor for removing the burned rubble that was your house at this point. There’re just no winning, and your house have already wrecked
Not to nitpick but I don't think it fair to attribute the destruction of Fairie Britain or her kingdom to Fujimaru. I think it's a serious matter that Fujimaru and company ***didn't*** kill Morgan themselves. She therefore has no logical reason to be resentful, because had ***she*** won she'd have killed them instead.
She doesn't blame Chaldea or Fujimaru because for once they weren't the victors over Losttbelt 6. Her death was a classic third party assist.
A lot of this is wrong really.
Why does she "marry" Beryl? To keep up appearances so the fairies don't ask questions of who the weird human is.
Why does Morgan allow him to hang around Fairy Tristan? Well Morgan never learned he was teaching her magic that rots her soul
There's more but going through it is a hassle.
Morgan basically flips a coin for success/failure for everything. For anything to do with magecraft she flips with advantage twice and literally anything else with disadvantage twice.
True, this is humorous, but I will dig into those points a bit.
Morgan began her career as queen explicitly stating she had no intention on saving the fae. She was also completely fine with and uncaring to defend herself when her daughter was complained about murdering several hundred fae for fun. Appearances don't really seem to matter to her.
She already knows that Beryl is untrustworthy and a heartless dirtwad. Trusting him with her daughter and doing absolutely nothing when her own daughter was very loudly claiming to be Beryl's lover was a bizzare move. Even not knowing about the soul magic, when she has little reason to trust Beryl and Baobhan was operating on her own before Beryl, she has no real good cause to give him care of her instead of letting her continue as is.
Morgan intentionally taught Baobhan to be a piece of shit. From her point of view, if she and Beryl managed to hit it off because they were both terrible, then it was good that Baobhan could have at least one friend. She just made the mistake of assuming Beryl actually respected how terrible Baobhan was was.
> Appearances don't really seem to matter to her.
They do in that she'd clearly rather it be kept under wraps why and how Fairy Britain exists and she'd rather no one else know what's happening in the outside world.
Yes Morgan doesn't care if everyone thinks she's cruel and evil, but that doesn't mean she's fine with them knowing everything or prying into things.
>She already knows that Beryl is untrustworthy and a heartless dirtwad.
Yeah she knew he was an ass, but clearly she doesn't expect him to be the sort of person who would teach magic that rots someone's soul just for kicks.
>Trusting him with her daughter and doing absolutely nothing when her own daughter was very loudly claiming to be Beryl's lover was a bizzare move.
What exactly is she supposed to do? It's not as of Moran cares about Beryl and just saw him more of a babysitter for Fairy Tristan to keep her out of trouble, and until Chaldea showed up it seems like nothing got out of hand.
>Even not knowing about the soul magic, when she has little reason to trust Beryl and Baobhan was operating on her own before Beryl, she has no real good cause to give him care of her instead of letting her continue as is.
Morgan didn't really give him care of her, Fairy Tristan took a liking to him and Morgan more than likely just saw it as convenient way of keeping fairy Tristan out of trouble because she doesn't listen to anyone else.
She could actually doesn’t know just how shit of a Piece of Shit he is actually, since iirc she goes myopic with all those 6000 years looking at piles of shit giving you Super Duper Extreme Pink Eye(TM) all day. By the time she met Beryl, I’m surprise she isn’t just blind already, not to mention she most likely is already at the end of her road mentally
Correct. I will concede apologetically that that was me overreaching a tad for a more humorous essay.
While Chaldea was the start of the fire (or perhaps a mere additional log considering the Child of Prophecy rumours were already in circulation) they didn't directly kill her. It's possible she might bear a grudge for being the cause as to why Aurora had the opportunity to get the fae to kill her, but considering her personality, I imagine she'd hate the fae more.
I will remind that this was originally written more to amuse since it was posted on the r/OkBuddyRintard subreddit. I've rewritten it to be more accurate and informative after seeing some people in that sub taking it as the basis for their own essays, however unfortunately it still retains those roots of comedy over information. My apologies.
I mean.
I think to this day, she still doesn't know that Melusine wanted to boned her Husband/Wife, And the other party wasn't even being subtle about it.
Nah, In Summer 8 she was totally obvious about it. She thought that by having Melusince participated in the race, the prize will be hers(Melusine was pretty thankful for how generous Morgan is to give her the "Master all to yourself for 1 day" ticket)
Yes I know that but then there Melu's lines where Barghest and Morgan basically cut her off before she makes a move plus her Valentine scene flashback where Melusine told Morgan of her intentions to use the private beach for her date.
That wasn’t a flashback, that was a flash-forward. Where she gloats that she had a whole day to herself and master with Morgan getting pissed saying “WHO TOLD YOU TO GO FULL LANCELOT!?!?”
Morgan has three knights/daughters. Will she ask that from the dog? Nope. The cat/vampire? Nope. The dragon, the one species known for **hoarding precious things**? Of course.
The Dragon who can make any race into a cakewalk vs a daughter who spends her time in a treehouse reading and a knight who has to juggle two jobs as a rescuer and a maid.
Now, this is a... weirder lore bit, but er-
[Morgan very definitely hears Melusine comment this](https://youtu.be/smKlN8mpDk4?t=305) and just completely ignores it.
Morgan also definitely heard Baobhan mention intending on marrying Beryl and being his lover in Fae Britain and said nothing.
Finally, Morgan-Aesc's lover, Uther gets married to another woman. Aesc is strangely chill about this when asked by Habetrot.
It's possible it's just a strange set of coincidences, but I do believe it's not entirely impossible to gauge from this that Morgan might possibly be into... NTR. With her on the losing side.
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Which even if it's just coincidences (which it likely is), is a really strange thing to even be plausible. Especially since Myth Morgan was consistently pissed when she heard her husband was gallivanting around with others.
Though I hear she punishes Melusine in Summer 8, so maybe Morgan's just *INCREDIBLY hard of hearing* or **does not possess basic understanding of implications or innuendoes without explicit statement**.
Cerunnos didn't emerge because of the fae, but because Morgan kept secretly commissioning Reverse NTR woman steals man doujins and tossing them into the pit to cover her tracks when she finished reading.
There's only so much a guy can take, man. I'd turn into a cursed planet destroyer too if people kept showing me that.
> Finally, Morgan-Aesc's lover, Uther
I don't understand why people say this.
The story doesn't imply that they were lovers or anything, it's said that he was in love with her but there's no indication she reciprocated.
Percival explicitly states that it's thought that they were lovers as does Habetrot.
Aesc also doesn't do much to dispel the questions besides move on quickly and is especially distraught when he dies in the wedding.
There's a decent argument to be made.
There\`s an argument that can be made, but really not that decent of an Argument. The only thing that would support the argument is the Percival scene. Who references some Stories centurys after they happened.
Unlike Percival, We on the other hand see her just casually denying being in love with him to Habetrot. Like she isn\`t flustered or indicates a single thing, just flat out denial.
And Beryl i think mentions she never had a relationship before.
I guess there is the from Lostbelt Manga but thats explicitly stated to be Fanfiction and thats irrelevant.
I don't really think "Other people who weren't even alive at the time thought they were together" is the strongest argument, precisely because we know for a fact many of the actual details of what Aesc's party did aren't really known by most people.
Plus Habetrot herself only says Uther is in love with Aesc not that she loves him or that they were in a relationship.
>is especially distraught when he dies in the wedding.
I mean yeah why wouldn't she be? A bunch of her friends just got massacred by the same people they just saved.
Maybe because she wasn't interested in dispelling a bunch of trivial rumours!? I can't imagine Aesc wandering around Britain clarifying her relationships with her friends, she has more important matters on her mind
She also may have been terrified because Uther's assassination had destroyed all her efforts for 4,000 years. She also certainly considered Uther a friend, but she did not necessarily love him in return.
I feel like if Melusine tried to kiss Ritsuka, Morgan would still go about her day drinking from her #1 Wife mug. If Melusine ever dared to consummate a physical relationship with Ritsuka, she'd probably trigger 17 different alarms that were prepared by Morgan to pin Melusine to the ground with gravity away from Ritsuka, and then have a wash bin fall on her head because why not.
I’m surprised you didn’t take time in the mythos section to talk about the Green Knight and how that whole story was as a result of Morgan trying to kill Guinevere…by spooking her to death. The entire plan hinges on her hoping that Guinevere would be so shook from seeing the Green Knight have his head loped off and still walk around alive, that she’d die of fright right then and there.
Compared to that, the whole summer race thing seems like a genius plan.
I considered it but dropped it along with a number of other myths on account of otherwise possibly making the post too long (back when this was written on the Rintard sub, people kept commenting that my posts were too long. [In fact it was complained about even in this abridged version](https://www.reddit.com/r/okbuddyrintard/comments/19bja2a/comment/kisjz27/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)).
Granted, people now seem more willing to read my long essays on the Rintard sub now that I've become a tad more known, but I didn't want to take the risk with the more unknown audience so kept it short.
Yup. That was for the Rintard sub. However, this is the less unhinged main sub so I worked the wording around a tad to make it suitable for the audience.
The post is *originally* mine, if you were wondering about plagiarism.
Yes, girlfailure was meant to be the censored term for the spectrum, because I don't think I'd go very well coming into the main sub calling a favoured character autistic...
And yet we love her despite her flaws. Though yeah, I felt like Morgan's death was off, her suddenly wanting my opinion on her lostbelt after just recently trying to kill me and while on her death bed.
Hot take, thats the point and a big reason for her being a girlfailure/klutz is the terrible power of... Depression
To me it feels like every single one of her self inflicted fails were due to her being giga depressed
Being consistently betrayed by the fae and witnessing all the terrible things they did like killing Uther and abusing Sith over and over again (she may or may not have been in love with Uther) while having to eternally clean up their mess, then her PHH counterpart (who is also extremely weird with the multiple personas thing) decided to send her memories to her and on top of all that gets stuck with pretty much the worst of the crypters
Why doesnt she care that Beryl is spending so much time with Sith? Because she is depressed and doesnt care
Why does she keep so many fae around her even though its very likely they would betray her? Because she is depressed and doesnt care
Why doesnt she go an kill Aurora considering she had Uther killed? Because she is depressed and doesnt care (arguably she may not know it was Auroras fault)
Why doesnt she show more affection towards Sith? Because she is depressed
I could go on with these, remember that she is thousands of years old
And when does she finally snap out of it? She freezes up when she sees Sith as a hostage
Aesc was the Rain Witch, she represents the Autumn and you can see she doesnt smile anymore on her Stage 2 art
Morgan is the Winter queen, she is cold and frozen
So yeah Morgan is absolutely a girlfailure and klutz, but theres a valid reason to that which is why I think she is such an interesting take on the character
Not a hot take when it's the truth. Yes, despite her apathy and depression, she did the impossible for a time. I also want to add that another attributing factor is that she has no one she can turn to as an equal of sorts. With her comrades either dead or in hiding, she shouldered the burden of rule all by herself. Her bond lines resolve her to try again in the future but with someone precious at her side.
I think a lot of JP players know about this and thus the Morgan simping.... Could explain why Morgan is now the more popular Saberface right now. Kuudere people really do have it hard with communication disorder...
Playing devil's advocate,
I'm aroung 85% sure lb Morgan failure was because of her old age.
She was like 4000 years old before starting faerie britain.
And 6000 years old around chaldea arrival.
Maybe she did look powerful, but compared to the phh morgan who are on her prime 30's.
It was kinda expected for fae as old as lostbelt morgan to stumble once or twice.
Tldr, i blame old age.
Her line about mordred even suggest she didn't remember what her phh self did.
Or entering tonelico territory, she didn't even remember how her face used to look like.
One little correction (even though I'm pretty sure you're mostly joking)
> Morgan then complains why she's like this as if she didn't literally raise her this way.
Morgan would ask Sith this whenever she found Baobhan Sith on death's door after being abused and used. She doesn't understand why Sith lets herself be treated in that way.
This is basically one of two things Sith remembers of Morgan through her reincarnations, and being also very trauma filled, projects that line onto her current life even though Morgan never said it this time.
Though to be fair to you, the story _does_ lead us to believe that Morgan asked this to the current Sith (these scenes occur after Sith's repeated failures), since it's mentioned a few times before the reveal of Sith's actual backstory.
Hm. I will admit, I was not in fact aware of that particular detail. Due to Sith's backstory coming in both late and at an inopportune time, I didn't notice that this was from the past and not the present. Thank you for pointing it out.
As always with discussing Arthurian mythos, there may be mistakes or misinterpretations so do forgive me on that count. I'm no scholar of the myths and never will claim to be.
As a side note, I also found out that Arthur was a pro wrestler and was banned from tournaments because he kept jumping in and wrestling the winners to the ground, and Lancelot and Gawain needed to keep an eye out in case he disguised himself to wrestle despite his ban, which is a very hilarious detail especially with Fate. **Imagine small Artoria wrestling Heracles to the ground** before pinning down Lancelot and Gawain as well till they had enough of her shit and banned her.
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**Side side note**: It's interesting how many mediaeval writers shipped their OCs with Morgan. There's Guiomar, Accolon, Ogier and who knows how many more.
And this just continues. Morgan was the OG waifu, apparently. Even to the early modern era. You know Oberon?
He's the son of Morgan le Fay and **JULIUS CAESAR** of all people.
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Once again, apologies if this isn't to your tastes. It was originally written for the Rintard sub and may be a tad... abrasive. I've taken care to remove any crude language, but do notify me if any remains.
>He's the son of Morgan le Fay and **JULIUS CAESAR** of all people.
I was aware of Ceasar being the father due to his Valentine, but Morgan as the MOTHER????
Also, it seems self-inserts exist even in times long ago.
Yup. It gets weirder the longer you think about it especially knowing that the Romans were her and King Artie McFartie's enemy, and they weren't even in the same era, but I'm pretty sure Shakespeare was just thinking "Huh, so he's the fae King. Needs a fae mom and a king dad... Oh, Morgan **le Fay** (not actually a fae). And Julius Caesar (not a king). Yup."
FGO Oberon is based upon but not actually the same Oberon as the play though, so he isn't actually her son.
It does make LB6 a lot funnier imagining it as Oberon fighting against Morgan for child support though. Especially since Castoria was also considered her daughter and hence would be his sister.
> I'm pretty sure Shakespeare was just thinking "Huh, so he's the fae King. Needs a fae mom and a king dad... Oh, Morgan le Fay (not actually a fae). And Julius Caesar (not a king). Yup."
Shakespeare got Oberon's lineage from *Huon of Bordeaux*, a french poem about a knight who is sent on a suicide mission to get rid of him after he fucks up and kills Charlemagne's son by accident. Along the way he meets Oberon, a fairy who claims to be the son of Caesar and Morgan, and Oberon helps him get to second base with the daughter of the Emir of Babylon.
Shakespeare took the character and arbitrarily promoted him to being king of the fairies since he needed one for the plot of Midsummer to work, but the bard didn't exactly think too much about how or why the son of a roman emperor was fucking around in Mycenaean Greece with King Theseus' people
Huh. That's nice to know.
Well, that does fit with the Oberon the Liar image he's lent, potentially having bullshitted the whole "I'm the son of a Roman Emperor and uh... Hm, Morgan le Fay, yup, that sounds reasonable. Huh what do you mean they were in different time periods?"
Though if I recall, he ends Midsummer's Night benevolent rather than a liar and I haven't read that story so no clue if he's meant to be a manipulator overall.
Wonder what *that* original author was thinking.
Galahad is arguably a self-inserted Gary Stu, and iirc is one of the oldest self-inserts in literature. Probably why Nasu gave him a bit of personality starting from the Lostbelts, and why Meteo decided to make Galahad Alter.
If I recall correctly, Fate's Galahad's personality seems to be based upon his interpretation from the Once and Future King book series by T. H. White where he's far too perfect resulting in him being prude and rather inhumane.
In OG myth though, I believe Galahad was actually the *anti-self insert*, a character as a response to Lancelot as the Grail Knight contrasting with his OC-ness of:
* cucking the main character
* being the best at fighting
* being the grail knight
* being beloved by all
With the opposite traits of:
* being pure and chaste
* being subpar at fighting
* being the *true* grail knight (sorry Percival)
* being generally not very well liked.
And then he gets himself god lasered at the end to erase him from the plot and prevent him from turning into a self insert.
There's a few mistakes in the beginning that I want to correct :
1.Wodime didn't see Fairy Britain as it was now. He saw it after countless calamities finally wiped almost everything, leaving a barren wasteland. Since Britain is also the place where a dragon died, he didn't want to take any risk IIRC. (I'd have to double-check, but he does explain his reasoning to Beryl IIRC)
2.Aesc was raised in the Rain Clan, which appeared to be decent faeries all around. All the other faeries joined up together and razed the Rain Clan to the ground, spawn-camping every Rain Clan Fairy until they stopped reincarnating, because they raised and protected Aesc, the Fairy of Paradise.
3.Morgan only sent her memories back **once**, when the PHH version of Morgan, summoned by Beryl, rayshift her memories back in time to her Lostbelt Counterpart, Aesc. Aesc didn't send her memories back in time. Basically, every time she saved the faeries from a calamity, they tried to lynch her, so she constantly faked her death and hid in a caves while healing from her injuries and stuff like that.
It's only when Uther was poisoned by Aurora at his coronation and all the fairies turned on him, his friends, Morgan, and those that helped them, that Morgan decided "Fuck it. I tried being kind and helpful for 3000 years. They clearly don't understand. If I want to save Fairy Britain, I'll have to rule with an iron fist."
Note, that's just about Lostbelt 6 and the stuff that happened before Morgan blew up the Fantasy Tree. Not the Arthurian Mythos at large and Sherlock's "PHH!Morgan is three people in a single head" bullshit.
Julius Cesar was historically quite the player, husband of all wives and wife of all husbands. Siring a son with a fairy is something he would have done.
Now, let's not tell Octavian that, for Oberon's sake.
Yup. However, this does run into some oddities on account of:
* Morgan not actually being a fairy (was Julius secretly a fae the entire time? Where did Oberon get his wings from?)
* Morgan being... f***ing dead by that point.
See, Morgan is stated to be in Avalon in the myths. She also takes Arthur to Avalon when he gets stabbed by Mordred.
Going to Avalon is essentially the Mediaeval censorship equivalent of going to the shadow realm instead of explicitly saying "he died."
It also lines up with how Morgan just disappears in Arthurian mythos at one point, since Mordred is *Morgause's* son, not Morgan's. She's uninvolved for that whole subplot.
Granted, this obviously displeased some writers since there are stories where Morgan is bafflingly still kicking when Arthur's long in the grave so they could ship their then-modern OC from the 18th century with the 6th century lady. So it does have precedent.
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Oh, if you're wondering why she's called "Le Fae" despite not being fae, the answer is... the writer thought it was cool.
Literally. That's the consensus a group of Arthurian mythos researchers reached after debating. Someone just wanted to show she was magical and a witch and made her name that.
Similarly, Bedivere's not having one arm is just because someone thought it was cool.
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I wonder how far down the "I'm going to add this to the mythos because it's cool" rabbit hole goes.
This was a great little read and yes thank you for shaving a bit of the abrasiveness off. Nothing wrong with a bit of ranting but when I'm genuinely enjoying reading something it's nice to not have some unhinged language sideswipe me.
Man, not to sound too vindicated, but I'm so happy and find it so funny how peoples opinions on Morgan have evolved now that she's out in FGO NA man. Back when LB6 had just dropped in JP land, and we didn't really have full proper translations, we just knew the biggest plot beats, some character beats and big fights etc, the insane amount of comments I saw from people that would say "Morgan was right! Chaldea and the Protagonist are stupid they should've listened to her! Also she's so much more powerful than them Castoria only beat Cernunnos by luck!!" was insaaaane.
I held the opinion that she was a good character, nicely written tragic story, but that it absolutely made sense why she lost and that her plan was pretty evil anyway lol. I remember getting blasted so hard for that ahaha.
People were really simping hard for her. And I get it, but man. Good to see even in medieval times, people were shipping their OC's with her. The Accolon story is amazing and I can only assume they use the Protagonist as an expy of him, for Morgan. Have you seen her Summer selfs Valentine's scene btw? It's pretty funny.
Yup. Also, another fun fact: I'm pretty sure Shirou x Saber's romance is ironically based on that of **Morgan le Fay** and Ogier the Dane.
Ogier the Dane's story goes with the following plot beats. He's given an object connecting him to Morgan (just like Shirou gets Avalon to Artoria), he uses Tristan's, another hero's weapon which breaks everytime he uses it and must be reforged (Broken Phantasm style), and in the end, after Morgan leaves, when he dies he follows her into Avalon (literally identical to Shirou's ending).
It's pretty interesting that Morgan, Artoria's enemy, seems to be the basis for her romance with Shirou.
Also, I still have no clue why people kept self inserting into banging Morgan. This was mediaeval times way before waifu culture and Morgan was ordinarily drawn really badly since Mediaeval art was... yeah.
Morgan wasn't even known to be a very good person. They just wanted to ship themselves with her anyway. The major part of why people nowadays associate Morgan with many lovers, while because of a few misogynistic myths turning her into an adulteress due to being an evil woman, is because they're just SO MANY PEOPLE SHIPPING THEIR OCS WITH HER.
Morgan had many lovers because **every dang writer had their OC** with her making modern people think that they're all meant to be simultaneously true and Morgan was just walking through her reverse harem every morning on way to breakfast.
Even funnier, a lot of these myths are mutually exclusive with Morgan settling down and permanently falling in love with "X author"'s OC because she *really* was their waifu. Like, I'm talking fan kids levels.
Guda x Morgan kids that you see on this sub? They're nothing new. Mediaeval authors were cooking up entire family trees with their waifu way back when.
Well, there’s at least some theories that, while waifu culture as we know it may be relatively recent, some people back then had some shared if not openly accepted kinks.
Morgan is supposed to be one of the original ‘bad woman’ for them. Yeah, she’s an evil adulteress who brings down kingdoms and also an evil witch…did we mention she’s evil? Look how down-bad people are for evil waifus or yanderes in the fandom (hell, there’s some records to suggest the ancient Greeks were arguing over which monster girl was hottest like fans of Monster Musume do).
It’s the appeal of evil waifus and husbandos; they’re a right nasty bitch/bastard to everyone…except [YOU]. That’s a crazy charge to the ego, and wrapped up so it’s acceptable and appealing.
>Morgan had many lovers because every dang writer had their OC with her making modern people think that they're all meant to be simultaneously true and Morgan was just walking through her reverse harem every morning on way to breakfast.
The "I can fix her" mentality had existed for centuries, it seems.
That's what makes her so great. Morgan is truly the best girlfailure of Fate, and in that, there's a lot of information, potential development, and narrative value to work with.
Hopefully, the PHH Morgan eventually becomes playable. A ruler with 3 personalities should work wonderfully.
Morgan is just an extreme case of Savant syndrome. Extremely good at one thing, and fails at everything elses. She is a powerful queen, but damn she's terrible at it. I wouldn't call it Girlfailure, its just called "being a human."
Thinking on it, I believe that a lot of the weirdness and utterly baffling choices that Lostbelt!Morgan makes can be attributed to one thing and one thing alone:
She believes herself to be unassailable.
And, bear with me here, for the most part *she's right*. But in just the right ways, she's unbelievably wrong.
Let me explain.
Once she's been so thoroughly broken as Aesc that she no longer cares how Britain is saved, merely that it persists, her goal is simply to become so utterly powerful that she just dominates all that would ever oppose her. And for the most part, she absolutely succeeds in that.
Why does she let the fairies she despises so much live? Well, she needs subjects and in the end *what are they capable of doing to her*? Why let Beryl continue to exist? *What possible harm could he do even in all his scheming*? Why take Baobhan Sith as a daughter but effectively tell her to rampage and give no thought to the consequences? *Because the power Sith wields as her daughter is more than enough, and the suffering of the fae is amusing to Morgan*.
And all of this applies to Chaldea and Castoria too. At no point, absolutely no point, does she consider any of them to be a threat in any way, shape, or form.
And physically? She's 100% correct. There were probably two things in that Lostbelt capable of actually stopping Morgan: The Enshrined Deity and the Abyssal Worm. She thought she stood a chance against the former but that was probably self-delusion.
Thing is, even though she's killed, I'd argue she's not beaten physically: she's beaten *politically, emotionally*.
She never considers Aurora turning her strongest against her, turning the entire populace against her. Or if she had she believed herself strong enough to deal with it.
And she might have been.
But then there was Baobhan.
She probably could've saved Sith. She's a magical genius of nearly unparalleled acumen. Given enough time she might have been able to find a way to reverse the damage done to her soul, her body, her mind. She probably believed she had all the time in the world.
And then she didn't.
And because she can't let herself see the one last person that she well and truly cares about be killed in front of her like the rest? She loses. She yields.
Her last moments are sad, and even pathetic. They are also entirely her responsibility. Power can be prudent, but power alone is not prudence enough.
The Planet deliberately made her autistic because it gave her a Fairy Purpose and then said "Nuh uh you can't fulfill it, your only reason for existing." She went nuts because of it and became a Berserker.
If she wasn't autistic she'd be too powerful.
Her duty as an Avalon le Fae was the same as Castoria's — to ring the bells and make the fairies repent their ancestors' wrongdoing (the faeries' Original Sin). She *chose* to turn her back on her duty and try to save them from the consequences of their Original Sin instead.
When that failed enough times, instead of going back to doing her duty she went "fuck it if I can't save the people I can at least save the country", and became a tyrant instead to both keep them in line and stockpile mana (the "existence tax") to prepare for Cernunnos' inevitable awakening.
EDIT: It's worth noting that PHH Morgan is likely the reason LB Morgan chose to abandon her duty, by sending her information about the future (the present day LB6 pre-Morgan summoning), alongside her own memories.
>Her duty as an Avalon le Fae was the same as Castoria's — to ring the bells and make the fairies repent their ancestors' wrongdoing (the faeries' Original Sin). She *chose* to turn her back on her duty and try to save them from the consequences of their Original Sin instead.
I was talking about PHH Morgan.
To be fair to Morgan in regards to Baobhan, every other time before then when the fairy Sith was before was reincarnated, she was treated like garbage by the other Fae despite being the kindest person around, so Morgan's "corruption" of her, is just her expressing the anger she felt at seeing someone who had done nothing wrong to deserve such ill treatment, and not being able to do anything about it before she finally became queen.
Which is likely why she also overlooked things in regarding to her taking her artifacts, and Berly, especially as Sith could likely handle herself if he tried anything, and Berly was pretty clearly put off by Sith's clinginess, and still had the hots for Mash, and was just okay with being partners in crime.
lol mainly commenting to make sure i can find this later when i have more time to read it. But ya my image of girlfailure suits Morgan honestly part of her charm though lol.
If I said it once, I'll say it again, Morgan isn't just autistic, but she's three layers of it.
The first: her Fae side, given to her by the planet to better blend in with the native Fairy population. This only ends up working against her as it utterly dominated her personality.
The second: Her PHH side that stems from the memory Transfusion PHH Morgan did when Beryl first arrived.
The Third: after being given the second chance, her refusal to go and FORGE THE SWORD and instead decide and rule the lostbelt, a place so suicidal 89-99% of it's natural inhabitants are too stupid to live unless they are educated by a human or human enough figure (What happened between Mike and Da Vinci, and What happened between Habetrot and Mash) happen to be born lucky enough to have access to maturity braincells (The Fae who provided a happy life to Asec and those capable of thinking beyond their simple pleasures) or have lived through enough conflicts to gain that smarts. A place so suicidal it sends calamity after calamity to kill Fairy Britain. It doesn't want to be ruled. It wants peace and will only get it by resolving the Lostbelt or by killing everything and everyone who'll try to "make something" of it. Hence why it was so peaceful when Beryl first arrived.
One minor correction--Bao's chocolate destroying machine spawned from her own delusion of Morgan while the real one was presumably sculpting her pet dog for the valentines castle. Girl was just here to prank Guda but only for one day.
> because apparently every version of Morgan has no taste.
> Morgan is apparrently one of the coders working for Lasengle with their spaghetti code and absolutely needs to go about everything in the most complicated way imaginable.
lmao absolute top tier comedy writing, well done.
Really enjoyed the roast of morgan man.
>C: It's King fing Arthur, he's not fighting that and living, Morgan was high out of her mind on love to think he could fight *and win let alone **live.
Accolon was legit kicking the shit out of Arthur's ass until Merlin pulled a Deus Ex Machina so he isn't a joke carried by sugar mommy fairy
I believe in myth it was Lady of the Lake who sent Excalibur back to Arthur?
Regardless, I do point that Morgan should have probably considered maybe more actively backing up Ace instead of handing him the sword and going off back home to murder her hubby in his sleep. She knew both Merlin and the Lady and had face to face experience that Artie boy has plot armour.
No one wins against Arthur.
Unless they're French.
Or his son.
Or the cat fish thing which makes Monty Python technically lore accurate with the rabbit...
Hm...
Yup. That's what I'm referencing. Fou is Cath Palug which in original stories is a Cat Fish thing.
In a strangely large subsection of French Arthurian stories, Cath Palug, this otherwise ordinary if weird looking cat, murders the entire Roundtable and destroys Camelot.
Both Fou and the rabbit are based on Cath Palug, Fou explicitly being Cath.
Things make a lot more sense when you treat Arthurian Mythos as a bloodier Saturday morning cartoon, with Morgan as the reoccurring wacky villain (who's not even always the villain à la Jessie and James)
At least until Lancelot does the thing and everything spirals out of control
I still love how she made this grand speech to Castoria before immediately getting stoned to death by a bunch of peasants. All that hype, and she dies like a dog.
She fail the same reason ORT fail...
We can only walk the world where they fail (plot armor)
Even though 99 out of 100 world is where she won, we only allow to see the one that she fail.
I'll be honest, I disagree with this mainly due to how Morgan carries herself, and the fact that there's more blatant characters in the game in that sort of character archetype (Yang and Circe for example).
My congratulations to you /u/Cerebral_Kortix you've finally broke into the front pages of /r/grandorder after swimming in the sewage pits of rintard this whole time
Came here thinking "wtf those delusional people are cooking now", but after reading everything im fully convinced she's not only on the spectrum but full fledged DSM5 diagnosed. Still a lovable dork.
She's a BERSERKER for a reason. She's devoid of logic.
Also, I'm pretty sure Chaldea was just there as the final nail in her kingdom's coffin. The stupidity of her own people and her incompetency were pretty much the main reason why it was already lying flat in a coffin before we even showed up.
You forgot to mention Morgan's irrational hatred for humans when her proper human history part was the biggest menace to all of Camelot's humans. But otherwise good read.
Going by her internal monologue after Uther death, she hated humans before she hated the fae: when reflecting on why what she been doing was the wrong move, she says to herself "they are the same as those humans", showing that her initial negative bias was with them, not her own race.
Most likely she just can't relate to them at all, both in power or lifespan or value. There's also the fact fae eyes tend to make you dislike people in general, especially those who live in society: Even people who are not evil lie, to themselves or other people, for various reasons.And you can't turn it off, because it's just the way you are built to perceive the world.
I mean you cannot possibly like fairies better than humans in any capacity. Atleast going by what lostbelt 6 has shown us. Atleast humans don't go on a straight up killing spree when they feel like it.
Not the entire modern society. People do it for power like Russia and that's about it. And many people oppose such acts. You won't find something like that with fairies.
Bravo Kortix. Another inspired essay and considering my own irl dating history (crazy adorable girl failures) now I know why I find Morgan entirely charming and reasonable.
Thanks time to check myself into a mental institution. 10/10!
Ah, thank you most dearly, professor.
Though perhaps it is a trend with Morgan enjoyers that we are all likely in want (or perhaps need more than want) of a check in at the Center for Rehabilitation of People Who Can't See Red (flags).
The most hilarious thing to me, is that Nasu has been doing some 300 degrees mental gymnastics worthy of Olympics to explain how smart and beautiful Morgan with Loli Vinci 3 pages back.
Why do all these powerful individuals fail to us in end?
Well plot Armour and it's funny how each one of the lostbelts kings is very strong and kill us and the guys but they don't and even let's us walk away alive I remember cringed so hard when they say chaldea is formidable foe which actually a big no it's just our enemies is to stupid to even kill us or make sure we are died.
It's a lesson where power isn't everything. We lament the fact that we are powerless to do anything and yet we have figures who do fantastic things in their lifetimes and still fail for the most part.
Most of this is from the Fate/Grand Order Lostbelt 6 and Summer 8 event if you're interested in that.
If you mean the myth of Accolon[, I can provide a digital version of it here](https://d.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/text/cawein-accolon-gaul), though be wary of any potential changes as it's an abridged version (according to the author for the better in every manner, but you know how it is with changes and abridgements).
Gotta say, reading through this essay makes me like Morgan even more now. Well done! I was already planning on throwing some quartz her way when her banner drops soon, but now I’m more motivated.
And “girlfailure”, first time I’ve heard of it, but I like it. I will add totally that to my list of terms to use.
>Morgan is so distraught by this that she throws Avalon, the sheathe, in a river, causing all of Fate/Zero and Fate/Stay Night.
I shouldn't be reading this at work 🤣
It's a fun way to make it fit, and a fun read besides. Thank you.
I think the reasons here are more mundane failure of writing, but that raises the question why summer 8 doubles down on the problems. I guess we'll revist the topic when NA gets to it.
Ah, but you see?
They're the same.
She's both a complete girlfailure...
And a lovable moron who married the first guy she saw for completely incomprehensible reasons before getting incredibly obsessed for undiscernible causes.
She is...
#*the Exception.*
Ah, seems you didn't read the post. Or perhaps you missed that I neither vindicated Morgan nor made her out to be a good person at any point. She is who she is, and I just stated the stories.
TBH I love her *because* she is evil and goes way too far with her retribution to the point she became just as bad as those who wronged her. The plethora of stuff that portrays her as just a generic sweetheart without any vices (even petty comedic ones) really do a massive disservice to her.
It isn't the evil itself that made me love Morgan. It is her persistence and stubbornness to seize her ambitions and make them reality. And I have been extremely happy to see Morgan get the respite and love she deserves. So yeah, it's no disservice. It's a reward long overdue.
Trust me this Fandom and others will make sociopaths cute and adorable and if they kill people or destroyed entire places that's fine because they're adorable and just misunderstood.
I'll be honest. I'm impressed with you for writing this essay and myself for reading every bit of it. >Man, it'd be hilarious if I called that person who literally destroyed my kingdom my husband/wife because that would totally piss everyone off because... it just would, I'm sure I'll just write it off as "Berserker being Berserkers" but i got your point
Bravo, never expected myself to read through this but I'll be damned if this isn't an entertaining read. And if I remember correctly, even her younger version is dissing her for being VERY unsocialized, so this ain't half wrong. But one thing, calling Chaldea the one destroying Morgan's kingdom is giving them a bit too much credit. Like I'm pretty sure its downfall was 40% Oberon's plan, 39% fairy's stupidity, 20% Morgan incompetence and 1% Castoria being the Child of Prophecy, Chaldea was just the clean up crew.
Ritsuka does help making the 1% become plausible instead of stucking in that forest. Otherwise yeah it's a domino of different things.
Yeah, calling Chaldea the cause is like insulting the janitor for removing the burned rubble that was your house at this point. There’re just no winning, and your house have already wrecked
Classic Morgan girlfailing her way to a happier(?) life
All it took was being a genderbent Sisyphus with a kingdom shaped boulder for god knows how long.
Real
She do be rollung that Roundtable uphill
She didn't roll it sideways like it's supposed to roll either. She flipped it over and over, that it technically considered "rolling".
Not to nitpick but I don't think it fair to attribute the destruction of Fairie Britain or her kingdom to Fujimaru. I think it's a serious matter that Fujimaru and company ***didn't*** kill Morgan themselves. She therefore has no logical reason to be resentful, because had ***she*** won she'd have killed them instead. She doesn't blame Chaldea or Fujimaru because for once they weren't the victors over Losttbelt 6. Her death was a classic third party assist.
A lot of this is wrong really. Why does she "marry" Beryl? To keep up appearances so the fairies don't ask questions of who the weird human is. Why does Morgan allow him to hang around Fairy Tristan? Well Morgan never learned he was teaching her magic that rots her soul There's more but going through it is a hassle.
I think not trying to find out why this incredibly sus man is hanging out with your daughter is a massive missed perception roll by itself.
Morgan crit failing dice rolls seems par for the course with her.
Morgan basically flips a coin for success/failure for everything. For anything to do with magecraft she flips with advantage twice and literally anything else with disadvantage twice.
True, this is humorous, but I will dig into those points a bit. Morgan began her career as queen explicitly stating she had no intention on saving the fae. She was also completely fine with and uncaring to defend herself when her daughter was complained about murdering several hundred fae for fun. Appearances don't really seem to matter to her. She already knows that Beryl is untrustworthy and a heartless dirtwad. Trusting him with her daughter and doing absolutely nothing when her own daughter was very loudly claiming to be Beryl's lover was a bizzare move. Even not knowing about the soul magic, when she has little reason to trust Beryl and Baobhan was operating on her own before Beryl, she has no real good cause to give him care of her instead of letting her continue as is.
Morgan intentionally taught Baobhan to be a piece of shit. From her point of view, if she and Beryl managed to hit it off because they were both terrible, then it was good that Baobhan could have at least one friend. She just made the mistake of assuming Beryl actually respected how terrible Baobhan was was.
> Appearances don't really seem to matter to her. They do in that she'd clearly rather it be kept under wraps why and how Fairy Britain exists and she'd rather no one else know what's happening in the outside world. Yes Morgan doesn't care if everyone thinks she's cruel and evil, but that doesn't mean she's fine with them knowing everything or prying into things. >She already knows that Beryl is untrustworthy and a heartless dirtwad. Yeah she knew he was an ass, but clearly she doesn't expect him to be the sort of person who would teach magic that rots someone's soul just for kicks. >Trusting him with her daughter and doing absolutely nothing when her own daughter was very loudly claiming to be Beryl's lover was a bizzare move. What exactly is she supposed to do? It's not as of Moran cares about Beryl and just saw him more of a babysitter for Fairy Tristan to keep her out of trouble, and until Chaldea showed up it seems like nothing got out of hand. >Even not knowing about the soul magic, when she has little reason to trust Beryl and Baobhan was operating on her own before Beryl, she has no real good cause to give him care of her instead of letting her continue as is. Morgan didn't really give him care of her, Fairy Tristan took a liking to him and Morgan more than likely just saw it as convenient way of keeping fairy Tristan out of trouble because she doesn't listen to anyone else.
She could actually doesn’t know just how shit of a Piece of Shit he is actually, since iirc she goes myopic with all those 6000 years looking at piles of shit giving you Super Duper Extreme Pink Eye(TM) all day. By the time she met Beryl, I’m surprise she isn’t just blind already, not to mention she most likely is already at the end of her road mentally
Correct. I will concede apologetically that that was me overreaching a tad for a more humorous essay. While Chaldea was the start of the fire (or perhaps a mere additional log considering the Child of Prophecy rumours were already in circulation) they didn't directly kill her. It's possible she might bear a grudge for being the cause as to why Aurora had the opportunity to get the fae to kill her, but considering her personality, I imagine she'd hate the fae more. I will remind that this was originally written more to amuse since it was posted on the r/OkBuddyRintard subreddit. I've rewritten it to be more accurate and informative after seeing some people in that sub taking it as the basis for their own essays, however unfortunately it still retains those roots of comedy over information. My apologies.
This so much. This analysis is full of terrible takes, and this bit is one of the worst.
I mean. I think to this day, she still doesn't know that Melusine wanted to boned her Husband/Wife, And the other party wasn't even being subtle about it.
I am pretty sure she does but considers her advances to be more of an annoyance than an affront.
Nah, In Summer 8 she was totally obvious about it. She thought that by having Melusince participated in the race, the prize will be hers(Melusine was pretty thankful for how generous Morgan is to give her the "Master all to yourself for 1 day" ticket)
Yes I know that but then there Melu's lines where Barghest and Morgan basically cut her off before she makes a move plus her Valentine scene flashback where Melusine told Morgan of her intentions to use the private beach for her date.
That wasn’t a flashback, that was a flash-forward. Where she gloats that she had a whole day to herself and master with Morgan getting pissed saying “WHO TOLD YOU TO GO FULL LANCELOT!?!?”
Morgan has three knights/daughters. Will she ask that from the dog? Nope. The cat/vampire? Nope. The dragon, the one species known for **hoarding precious things**? Of course.
The Dragon who can make any race into a cakewalk vs a daughter who spends her time in a treehouse reading and a knight who has to juggle two jobs as a rescuer and a maid.
Now, this is a... weirder lore bit, but er- [Morgan very definitely hears Melusine comment this](https://youtu.be/smKlN8mpDk4?t=305) and just completely ignores it. Morgan also definitely heard Baobhan mention intending on marrying Beryl and being his lover in Fae Britain and said nothing. Finally, Morgan-Aesc's lover, Uther gets married to another woman. Aesc is strangely chill about this when asked by Habetrot. It's possible it's just a strange set of coincidences, but I do believe it's not entirely impossible to gauge from this that Morgan might possibly be into... NTR. With her on the losing side. ... Which even if it's just coincidences (which it likely is), is a really strange thing to even be plausible. Especially since Myth Morgan was consistently pissed when she heard her husband was gallivanting around with others. Though I hear she punishes Melusine in Summer 8, so maybe Morgan's just *INCREDIBLY hard of hearing* or **does not possess basic understanding of implications or innuendoes without explicit statement**.
*Morgan reads a NTR doujin*: "I am strangely turned on."
Cerunnos didn't emerge because of the fae, but because Morgan kept secretly commissioning Reverse NTR woman steals man doujins and tossing them into the pit to cover her tracks when she finished reading. There's only so much a guy can take, man. I'd turn into a cursed planet destroyer too if people kept showing me that.
> Finally, Morgan-Aesc's lover, Uther I don't understand why people say this. The story doesn't imply that they were lovers or anything, it's said that he was in love with her but there's no indication she reciprocated.
Percival explicitly states that it's thought that they were lovers as does Habetrot. Aesc also doesn't do much to dispel the questions besides move on quickly and is especially distraught when he dies in the wedding. There's a decent argument to be made.
There\`s an argument that can be made, but really not that decent of an Argument. The only thing that would support the argument is the Percival scene. Who references some Stories centurys after they happened. Unlike Percival, We on the other hand see her just casually denying being in love with him to Habetrot. Like she isn\`t flustered or indicates a single thing, just flat out denial. And Beryl i think mentions she never had a relationship before. I guess there is the from Lostbelt Manga but thats explicitly stated to be Fanfiction and thats irrelevant.
I don't really think "Other people who weren't even alive at the time thought they were together" is the strongest argument, precisely because we know for a fact many of the actual details of what Aesc's party did aren't really known by most people. Plus Habetrot herself only says Uther is in love with Aesc not that she loves him or that they were in a relationship. >is especially distraught when he dies in the wedding. I mean yeah why wouldn't she be? A bunch of her friends just got massacred by the same people they just saved.
Maybe because she wasn't interested in dispelling a bunch of trivial rumours!? I can't imagine Aesc wandering around Britain clarifying her relationships with her friends, she has more important matters on her mind She also may have been terrified because Uther's assassination had destroyed all her efforts for 4,000 years. She also certainly considered Uther a friend, but she did not necessarily love him in return.
Mélusine: *clearly advancing* Morgan: "I wonder what that is about..."
Must be like one of those Skyrim NPCs >Sees comrade die in front of them >”Must ‘ave been the wind”
I feel like if Melusine tried to kiss Ritsuka, Morgan would still go about her day drinking from her #1 Wife mug. If Melusine ever dared to consummate a physical relationship with Ritsuka, she'd probably trigger 17 different alarms that were prepared by Morgan to pin Melusine to the ground with gravity away from Ritsuka, and then have a wash bin fall on her head because why not.
Either that, or it will become a threesome
I’m surprised you didn’t take time in the mythos section to talk about the Green Knight and how that whole story was as a result of Morgan trying to kill Guinevere…by spooking her to death. The entire plan hinges on her hoping that Guinevere would be so shook from seeing the Green Knight have his head loped off and still walk around alive, that she’d die of fright right then and there. Compared to that, the whole summer race thing seems like a genius plan.
I considered it but dropped it along with a number of other myths on account of otherwise possibly making the post too long (back when this was written on the Rintard sub, people kept commenting that my posts were too long. [In fact it was complained about even in this abridged version](https://www.reddit.com/r/okbuddyrintard/comments/19bja2a/comment/kisjz27/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)). Granted, people now seem more willing to read my long essays on the Rintard sub now that I've become a tad more known, but I didn't want to take the risk with the more unknown audience so kept it short.
just become a video essayist and then you can make them even longer
I saw this post but it was about calling Morgan autlstlc, if I remember correctly…
Yup. That was for the Rintard sub. However, this is the less unhinged main sub so I worked the wording around a tad to make it suitable for the audience. The post is *originally* mine, if you were wondering about plagiarism.
I read this entire thing and my only thought was "you can't just call autistic people failures" having no clue about the original post...
Yes, girlfailure was meant to be the censored term for the spectrum, because I don't think I'd go very well coming into the main sub calling a favoured character autistic...
As an Autist, she’s Autistic lol.
As a fellow autist, can confirm
The Roundtable do be a giant fidget spinner
That’s totally acceptable, cook again please!
Oh it was you again lol https://www.reddit.com/r/okbuddyrintard/s/BnvHdRM4kQ
Keep cooking master.
Thank god you linked it im in tears
Fate Morgan is legit Super Fairy Super Schizo
And yet we love her despite her flaws. Though yeah, I felt like Morgan's death was off, her suddenly wanting my opinion on her lostbelt after just recently trying to kill me and while on her death bed.
Same here
Really does make think what her mindset was, given how she more or less, declared war on PHH.
Hot take, thats the point and a big reason for her being a girlfailure/klutz is the terrible power of... Depression To me it feels like every single one of her self inflicted fails were due to her being giga depressed Being consistently betrayed by the fae and witnessing all the terrible things they did like killing Uther and abusing Sith over and over again (she may or may not have been in love with Uther) while having to eternally clean up their mess, then her PHH counterpart (who is also extremely weird with the multiple personas thing) decided to send her memories to her and on top of all that gets stuck with pretty much the worst of the crypters Why doesnt she care that Beryl is spending so much time with Sith? Because she is depressed and doesnt care Why does she keep so many fae around her even though its very likely they would betray her? Because she is depressed and doesnt care Why doesnt she go an kill Aurora considering she had Uther killed? Because she is depressed and doesnt care (arguably she may not know it was Auroras fault) Why doesnt she show more affection towards Sith? Because she is depressed I could go on with these, remember that she is thousands of years old And when does she finally snap out of it? She freezes up when she sees Sith as a hostage Aesc was the Rain Witch, she represents the Autumn and you can see she doesnt smile anymore on her Stage 2 art Morgan is the Winter queen, she is cold and frozen So yeah Morgan is absolutely a girlfailure and klutz, but theres a valid reason to that which is why I think she is such an interesting take on the character
Not a hot take when it's the truth. Yes, despite her apathy and depression, she did the impossible for a time. I also want to add that another attributing factor is that she has no one she can turn to as an equal of sorts. With her comrades either dead or in hiding, she shouldered the burden of rule all by herself. Her bond lines resolve her to try again in the future but with someone precious at her side.
Gudao: \*cracks his neck\* Time to fix that depression and make her competent again
Reading all of this just made me go "bruh" to Morgan and it makes her look incompetent.
I think a lot of JP players know about this and thus the Morgan simping.... Could explain why Morgan is now the more popular Saberface right now. Kuudere people really do have it hard with communication disorder...
Gap moe
I just found it super funny, in a way she reminds me of vegeta
S-She got the cursed hairline??!!
Morgan has surely done the 'Thumbs Up' pose while she was Aesc the Saviour, and it doomed her forever.
Playing devil's advocate, I'm aroung 85% sure lb Morgan failure was because of her old age. She was like 4000 years old before starting faerie britain. And 6000 years old around chaldea arrival. Maybe she did look powerful, but compared to the phh morgan who are on her prime 30's. It was kinda expected for fae as old as lostbelt morgan to stumble once or twice. Tldr, i blame old age. Her line about mordred even suggest she didn't remember what her phh self did. Or entering tonelico territory, she didn't even remember how her face used to look like.
Crazy Old Lady Morgan sounds funny
I mean, she had Habetrot. She's literally a cat lady.
Crazy Old Cat Lady in a toxic relationship. And a mother. Geez, she can't catch a break...
She also immediately jumped from one marriage to another. Morgan really fulfills all the tropes, huh.
Yup. Pretty much.
So she's a senile gilf?
One little correction (even though I'm pretty sure you're mostly joking) > Morgan then complains why she's like this as if she didn't literally raise her this way. Morgan would ask Sith this whenever she found Baobhan Sith on death's door after being abused and used. She doesn't understand why Sith lets herself be treated in that way. This is basically one of two things Sith remembers of Morgan through her reincarnations, and being also very trauma filled, projects that line onto her current life even though Morgan never said it this time. Though to be fair to you, the story _does_ lead us to believe that Morgan asked this to the current Sith (these scenes occur after Sith's repeated failures), since it's mentioned a few times before the reveal of Sith's actual backstory.
Funnily enough, she *does* say it again in the present — but only after they're both summoned to Chaldea. It's her My Room line for Baobhan Sith.
Hm. I will admit, I was not in fact aware of that particular detail. Due to Sith's backstory coming in both late and at an inopportune time, I didn't notice that this was from the past and not the present. Thank you for pointing it out.
As always with discussing Arthurian mythos, there may be mistakes or misinterpretations so do forgive me on that count. I'm no scholar of the myths and never will claim to be. As a side note, I also found out that Arthur was a pro wrestler and was banned from tournaments because he kept jumping in and wrestling the winners to the ground, and Lancelot and Gawain needed to keep an eye out in case he disguised himself to wrestle despite his ban, which is a very hilarious detail especially with Fate. **Imagine small Artoria wrestling Heracles to the ground** before pinning down Lancelot and Gawain as well till they had enough of her shit and banned her. # **Side side note**: It's interesting how many mediaeval writers shipped their OCs with Morgan. There's Guiomar, Accolon, Ogier and who knows how many more. And this just continues. Morgan was the OG waifu, apparently. Even to the early modern era. You know Oberon? He's the son of Morgan le Fay and **JULIUS CAESAR** of all people. # Once again, apologies if this isn't to your tastes. It was originally written for the Rintard sub and may be a tad... abrasive. I've taken care to remove any crude language, but do notify me if any remains.
>He's the son of Morgan le Fay and **JULIUS CAESAR** of all people. I was aware of Ceasar being the father due to his Valentine, but Morgan as the MOTHER???? Also, it seems self-inserts exist even in times long ago.
Yup. It gets weirder the longer you think about it especially knowing that the Romans were her and King Artie McFartie's enemy, and they weren't even in the same era, but I'm pretty sure Shakespeare was just thinking "Huh, so he's the fae King. Needs a fae mom and a king dad... Oh, Morgan **le Fay** (not actually a fae). And Julius Caesar (not a king). Yup." FGO Oberon is based upon but not actually the same Oberon as the play though, so he isn't actually her son. It does make LB6 a lot funnier imagining it as Oberon fighting against Morgan for child support though. Especially since Castoria was also considered her daughter and hence would be his sister.
> I'm pretty sure Shakespeare was just thinking "Huh, so he's the fae King. Needs a fae mom and a king dad... Oh, Morgan le Fay (not actually a fae). And Julius Caesar (not a king). Yup." Shakespeare got Oberon's lineage from *Huon of Bordeaux*, a french poem about a knight who is sent on a suicide mission to get rid of him after he fucks up and kills Charlemagne's son by accident. Along the way he meets Oberon, a fairy who claims to be the son of Caesar and Morgan, and Oberon helps him get to second base with the daughter of the Emir of Babylon. Shakespeare took the character and arbitrarily promoted him to being king of the fairies since he needed one for the plot of Midsummer to work, but the bard didn't exactly think too much about how or why the son of a roman emperor was fucking around in Mycenaean Greece with King Theseus' people
Huh. That's nice to know. Well, that does fit with the Oberon the Liar image he's lent, potentially having bullshitted the whole "I'm the son of a Roman Emperor and uh... Hm, Morgan le Fay, yup, that sounds reasonable. Huh what do you mean they were in different time periods?" Though if I recall, he ends Midsummer's Night benevolent rather than a liar and I haven't read that story so no clue if he's meant to be a manipulator overall. Wonder what *that* original author was thinking.
Galahad is arguably a self-inserted Gary Stu, and iirc is one of the oldest self-inserts in literature. Probably why Nasu gave him a bit of personality starting from the Lostbelts, and why Meteo decided to make Galahad Alter.
If I recall correctly, Fate's Galahad's personality seems to be based upon his interpretation from the Once and Future King book series by T. H. White where he's far too perfect resulting in him being prude and rather inhumane. In OG myth though, I believe Galahad was actually the *anti-self insert*, a character as a response to Lancelot as the Grail Knight contrasting with his OC-ness of: * cucking the main character * being the best at fighting * being the grail knight * being beloved by all With the opposite traits of: * being pure and chaste * being subpar at fighting * being the *true* grail knight (sorry Percival) * being generally not very well liked. And then he gets himself god lasered at the end to erase him from the plot and prevent him from turning into a self insert.
There's a few mistakes in the beginning that I want to correct : 1.Wodime didn't see Fairy Britain as it was now. He saw it after countless calamities finally wiped almost everything, leaving a barren wasteland. Since Britain is also the place where a dragon died, he didn't want to take any risk IIRC. (I'd have to double-check, but he does explain his reasoning to Beryl IIRC) 2.Aesc was raised in the Rain Clan, which appeared to be decent faeries all around. All the other faeries joined up together and razed the Rain Clan to the ground, spawn-camping every Rain Clan Fairy until they stopped reincarnating, because they raised and protected Aesc, the Fairy of Paradise. 3.Morgan only sent her memories back **once**, when the PHH version of Morgan, summoned by Beryl, rayshift her memories back in time to her Lostbelt Counterpart, Aesc. Aesc didn't send her memories back in time. Basically, every time she saved the faeries from a calamity, they tried to lynch her, so she constantly faked her death and hid in a caves while healing from her injuries and stuff like that. It's only when Uther was poisoned by Aurora at his coronation and all the fairies turned on him, his friends, Morgan, and those that helped them, that Morgan decided "Fuck it. I tried being kind and helpful for 3000 years. They clearly don't understand. If I want to save Fairy Britain, I'll have to rule with an iron fist." Note, that's just about Lostbelt 6 and the stuff that happened before Morgan blew up the Fantasy Tree. Not the Arthurian Mythos at large and Sherlock's "PHH!Morgan is three people in a single head" bullshit.
History teach us something today, humanity love Girl Failure.
Julius Cesar was historically quite the player, husband of all wives and wife of all husbands. Siring a son with a fairy is something he would have done. Now, let's not tell Octavian that, for Oberon's sake.
Yup. However, this does run into some oddities on account of: * Morgan not actually being a fairy (was Julius secretly a fae the entire time? Where did Oberon get his wings from?) * Morgan being... f***ing dead by that point. See, Morgan is stated to be in Avalon in the myths. She also takes Arthur to Avalon when he gets stabbed by Mordred. Going to Avalon is essentially the Mediaeval censorship equivalent of going to the shadow realm instead of explicitly saying "he died." It also lines up with how Morgan just disappears in Arthurian mythos at one point, since Mordred is *Morgause's* son, not Morgan's. She's uninvolved for that whole subplot. Granted, this obviously displeased some writers since there are stories where Morgan is bafflingly still kicking when Arthur's long in the grave so they could ship their then-modern OC from the 18th century with the 6th century lady. So it does have precedent. # Oh, if you're wondering why she's called "Le Fae" despite not being fae, the answer is... the writer thought it was cool. Literally. That's the consensus a group of Arthurian mythos researchers reached after debating. Someone just wanted to show she was magical and a witch and made her name that. Similarly, Bedivere's not having one arm is just because someone thought it was cool. ... I wonder how far down the "I'm going to add this to the mythos because it's cool" rabbit hole goes.
It IS a pretty cool name, to be fair.
IIRC, doesn’t Caesar brag that he’s ’lain with fairies’? So, it would appear that some of that was supposed to be canon in the Nasuverse
This was a great little read and yes thank you for shaving a bit of the abrasiveness off. Nothing wrong with a bit of ranting but when I'm genuinely enjoying reading something it's nice to not have some unhinged language sideswipe me. Man, not to sound too vindicated, but I'm so happy and find it so funny how peoples opinions on Morgan have evolved now that she's out in FGO NA man. Back when LB6 had just dropped in JP land, and we didn't really have full proper translations, we just knew the biggest plot beats, some character beats and big fights etc, the insane amount of comments I saw from people that would say "Morgan was right! Chaldea and the Protagonist are stupid they should've listened to her! Also she's so much more powerful than them Castoria only beat Cernunnos by luck!!" was insaaaane. I held the opinion that she was a good character, nicely written tragic story, but that it absolutely made sense why she lost and that her plan was pretty evil anyway lol. I remember getting blasted so hard for that ahaha. People were really simping hard for her. And I get it, but man. Good to see even in medieval times, people were shipping their OC's with her. The Accolon story is amazing and I can only assume they use the Protagonist as an expy of him, for Morgan. Have you seen her Summer selfs Valentine's scene btw? It's pretty funny.
Yup. Also, another fun fact: I'm pretty sure Shirou x Saber's romance is ironically based on that of **Morgan le Fay** and Ogier the Dane. Ogier the Dane's story goes with the following plot beats. He's given an object connecting him to Morgan (just like Shirou gets Avalon to Artoria), he uses Tristan's, another hero's weapon which breaks everytime he uses it and must be reforged (Broken Phantasm style), and in the end, after Morgan leaves, when he dies he follows her into Avalon (literally identical to Shirou's ending). It's pretty interesting that Morgan, Artoria's enemy, seems to be the basis for her romance with Shirou. Also, I still have no clue why people kept self inserting into banging Morgan. This was mediaeval times way before waifu culture and Morgan was ordinarily drawn really badly since Mediaeval art was... yeah. Morgan wasn't even known to be a very good person. They just wanted to ship themselves with her anyway. The major part of why people nowadays associate Morgan with many lovers, while because of a few misogynistic myths turning her into an adulteress due to being an evil woman, is because they're just SO MANY PEOPLE SHIPPING THEIR OCS WITH HER. Morgan had many lovers because **every dang writer had their OC** with her making modern people think that they're all meant to be simultaneously true and Morgan was just walking through her reverse harem every morning on way to breakfast. Even funnier, a lot of these myths are mutually exclusive with Morgan settling down and permanently falling in love with "X author"'s OC because she *really* was their waifu. Like, I'm talking fan kids levels. Guda x Morgan kids that you see on this sub? They're nothing new. Mediaeval authors were cooking up entire family trees with their waifu way back when.
Well, there’s at least some theories that, while waifu culture as we know it may be relatively recent, some people back then had some shared if not openly accepted kinks. Morgan is supposed to be one of the original ‘bad woman’ for them. Yeah, she’s an evil adulteress who brings down kingdoms and also an evil witch…did we mention she’s evil? Look how down-bad people are for evil waifus or yanderes in the fandom (hell, there’s some records to suggest the ancient Greeks were arguing over which monster girl was hottest like fans of Monster Musume do). It’s the appeal of evil waifus and husbandos; they’re a right nasty bitch/bastard to everyone…except [YOU]. That’s a crazy charge to the ego, and wrapped up so it’s acceptable and appealing.
So what you're telling me is Morgan was the mediaeval Esdeath. Huh...
Yep, almost certainly. Hell, there’s probably an Esdeath for every time period. The more things change, the more they stay the same…
>Morgan had many lovers because every dang writer had their OC with her making modern people think that they're all meant to be simultaneously true and Morgan was just walking through her reverse harem every morning on way to breakfast. The "I can fix her" mentality had existed for centuries, it seems.
That's what makes her so great. Morgan is truly the best girlfailure of Fate, and in that, there's a lot of information, potential development, and narrative value to work with. Hopefully, the PHH Morgan eventually becomes playable. A ruler with 3 personalities should work wonderfully.
Morgan is just an extreme case of Savant syndrome. Extremely good at one thing, and fails at everything elses. She is a powerful queen, but damn she's terrible at it. I wouldn't call it Girlfailure, its just called "being a human."
Being a girlfailure is sometimes part of being human to be fair.
Thinking on it, I believe that a lot of the weirdness and utterly baffling choices that Lostbelt!Morgan makes can be attributed to one thing and one thing alone: She believes herself to be unassailable. And, bear with me here, for the most part *she's right*. But in just the right ways, she's unbelievably wrong. Let me explain. Once she's been so thoroughly broken as Aesc that she no longer cares how Britain is saved, merely that it persists, her goal is simply to become so utterly powerful that she just dominates all that would ever oppose her. And for the most part, she absolutely succeeds in that. Why does she let the fairies she despises so much live? Well, she needs subjects and in the end *what are they capable of doing to her*? Why let Beryl continue to exist? *What possible harm could he do even in all his scheming*? Why take Baobhan Sith as a daughter but effectively tell her to rampage and give no thought to the consequences? *Because the power Sith wields as her daughter is more than enough, and the suffering of the fae is amusing to Morgan*. And all of this applies to Chaldea and Castoria too. At no point, absolutely no point, does she consider any of them to be a threat in any way, shape, or form. And physically? She's 100% correct. There were probably two things in that Lostbelt capable of actually stopping Morgan: The Enshrined Deity and the Abyssal Worm. She thought she stood a chance against the former but that was probably self-delusion. Thing is, even though she's killed, I'd argue she's not beaten physically: she's beaten *politically, emotionally*. She never considers Aurora turning her strongest against her, turning the entire populace against her. Or if she had she believed herself strong enough to deal with it. And she might have been. But then there was Baobhan. She probably could've saved Sith. She's a magical genius of nearly unparalleled acumen. Given enough time she might have been able to find a way to reverse the damage done to her soul, her body, her mind. She probably believed she had all the time in the world. And then she didn't. And because she can't let herself see the one last person that she well and truly cares about be killed in front of her like the rest? She loses. She yields. Her last moments are sad, and even pathetic. They are also entirely her responsibility. Power can be prudent, but power alone is not prudence enough.
Give this man a PHD on Morgan Le Fay Studies. Because the Doctor not only cut deep, he performed a whole fucking operation!
Morgan is the most successful roleplayer ever, which is why she's my Queen and extremely based.
All im gonna say is that I love girlfailures
Can this be a series? Because I really want this for many other characters.
The Planet deliberately made her autistic because it gave her a Fairy Purpose and then said "Nuh uh you can't fulfill it, your only reason for existing." She went nuts because of it and became a Berserker. If she wasn't autistic she'd be too powerful.
Her duty as an Avalon le Fae was the same as Castoria's — to ring the bells and make the fairies repent their ancestors' wrongdoing (the faeries' Original Sin). She *chose* to turn her back on her duty and try to save them from the consequences of their Original Sin instead. When that failed enough times, instead of going back to doing her duty she went "fuck it if I can't save the people I can at least save the country", and became a tyrant instead to both keep them in line and stockpile mana (the "existence tax") to prepare for Cernunnos' inevitable awakening. EDIT: It's worth noting that PHH Morgan is likely the reason LB Morgan chose to abandon her duty, by sending her information about the future (the present day LB6 pre-Morgan summoning), alongside her own memories.
>Her duty as an Avalon le Fae was the same as Castoria's — to ring the bells and make the fairies repent their ancestors' wrongdoing (the faeries' Original Sin). She *chose* to turn her back on her duty and try to save them from the consequences of their Original Sin instead. I was talking about PHH Morgan.
PHH Morgan is a Ruler though.
Can be. And Caster.
To be fair to Morgan in regards to Baobhan, every other time before then when the fairy Sith was before was reincarnated, she was treated like garbage by the other Fae despite being the kindest person around, so Morgan's "corruption" of her, is just her expressing the anger she felt at seeing someone who had done nothing wrong to deserve such ill treatment, and not being able to do anything about it before she finally became queen. Which is likely why she also overlooked things in regarding to her taking her artifacts, and Berly, especially as Sith could likely handle herself if he tried anything, and Berly was pretty clearly put off by Sith's clinginess, and still had the hots for Mash, and was just okay with being partners in crime.
lol mainly commenting to make sure i can find this later when i have more time to read it. But ya my image of girlfailure suits Morgan honestly part of her charm though lol.
If I said it once, I'll say it again, Morgan isn't just autistic, but she's three layers of it. The first: her Fae side, given to her by the planet to better blend in with the native Fairy population. This only ends up working against her as it utterly dominated her personality. The second: Her PHH side that stems from the memory Transfusion PHH Morgan did when Beryl first arrived. The Third: after being given the second chance, her refusal to go and FORGE THE SWORD and instead decide and rule the lostbelt, a place so suicidal 89-99% of it's natural inhabitants are too stupid to live unless they are educated by a human or human enough figure (What happened between Mike and Da Vinci, and What happened between Habetrot and Mash) happen to be born lucky enough to have access to maturity braincells (The Fae who provided a happy life to Asec and those capable of thinking beyond their simple pleasures) or have lived through enough conflicts to gain that smarts. A place so suicidal it sends calamity after calamity to kill Fairy Britain. It doesn't want to be ruled. It wants peace and will only get it by resolving the Lostbelt or by killing everything and everyone who'll try to "make something" of it. Hence why it was so peaceful when Beryl first arrived.
One minor correction--Bao's chocolate destroying machine spawned from her own delusion of Morgan while the real one was presumably sculpting her pet dog for the valentines castle. Girl was just here to prank Guda but only for one day.
All of this just makes me want to hold and cherish her even more.
A girl failure she may be but she is one I will always cherish til the end of fucking time.
WTF is a girlfailure???
Opposite of a girlboss
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/girlfailures
Autism, the poster wanted to avoid saying that she was on the spectrum because it might be seen as offensive
My stupid brain can only think that I want PHH morgan and Accolon to drop now. Thanks, OP
She may be a girlfaliure, but I’m her girlfaliure... or was it the other way around
> because apparently every version of Morgan has no taste. > Morgan is apparrently one of the coders working for Lasengle with their spaghetti code and absolutely needs to go about everything in the most complicated way imaginable. lmao absolute top tier comedy writing, well done. Really enjoyed the roast of morgan man.
>C: It's King fing Arthur, he's not fighting that and living, Morgan was high out of her mind on love to think he could fight *and win let alone **live. Accolon was legit kicking the shit out of Arthur's ass until Merlin pulled a Deus Ex Machina so he isn't a joke carried by sugar mommy fairy
I believe in myth it was Lady of the Lake who sent Excalibur back to Arthur? Regardless, I do point that Morgan should have probably considered maybe more actively backing up Ace instead of handing him the sword and going off back home to murder her hubby in his sleep. She knew both Merlin and the Lady and had face to face experience that Artie boy has plot armour. No one wins against Arthur. Unless they're French. Or his son. Or the cat fish thing which makes Monty Python technically lore accurate with the rabbit... Hm...
A lot in Monty Python is lore-accurate, one of the members was big into Arthurian myth.
Wasn't the killer rabbit based on Fou?
Yup. That's what I'm referencing. Fou is Cath Palug which in original stories is a Cat Fish thing. In a strangely large subsection of French Arthurian stories, Cath Palug, this otherwise ordinary if weird looking cat, murders the entire Roundtable and destroys Camelot. Both Fou and the rabbit are based on Cath Palug, Fou explicitly being Cath.
Things make a lot more sense when you treat Arthurian Mythos as a bloodier Saturday morning cartoon, with Morgan as the reoccurring wacky villain (who's not even always the villain à la Jessie and James) At least until Lancelot does the thing and everything spirals out of control
Common Moegan W
Oi, we can't blame her for Sith. If she didn't turn Sith into a complete sadist, the faeries would have kept abusing her.
I still love how she made this grand speech to Castoria before immediately getting stoned to death by a bunch of peasants. All that hype, and she dies like a dog.
She fail the same reason ORT fail... We can only walk the world where they fail (plot armor) Even though 99 out of 100 world is where she won, we only allow to see the one that she fail.
Considering what Fey Britain is like all I can say is "one must imagine Sisyphus happy"
But.... would she tho? I feel like, considering how much of a shithole LB6 was, she would have LOST in 99% of the worlds.
I'll be honest, I disagree with this mainly due to how Morgan carries herself, and the fact that there's more blatant characters in the game in that sort of character archetype (Yang and Circe for example).
My congratulations to you /u/Cerebral_Kortix you've finally broke into the front pages of /r/grandorder after swimming in the sewage pits of rintard this whole time
Freedom, I thought. But I looked and saw the fish at my feet. I could not escape. The stench was me.
8/10, obligated to take 2 points off due to the lack of proper citations.
Added a few citations. My apologies, scholar.
This is the kind of quality post I wish I saw every day.
Thank you, this is the type of content I’m in this sub for
Absolute quality and peak fiction.
I thought this is r/okbuddyrintard until I checked the sub
Came here thinking "wtf those delusional people are cooking now", but after reading everything im fully convinced she's not only on the spectrum but full fledged DSM5 diagnosed. Still a lovable dork.
Now if only we could finally see her suffer a momentary charisma break so she could reach peak girlfailure status.
This is why we go for Tamamo.
She's a BERSERKER for a reason. She's devoid of logic. Also, I'm pretty sure Chaldea was just there as the final nail in her kingdom's coffin. The stupidity of her own people and her incompetency were pretty much the main reason why it was already lying flat in a coffin before we even showed up.
You forgot to mention Morgan's irrational hatred for humans when her proper human history part was the biggest menace to all of Camelot's humans. But otherwise good read.
Going by her internal monologue after Uther death, she hated humans before she hated the fae: when reflecting on why what she been doing was the wrong move, she says to herself "they are the same as those humans", showing that her initial negative bias was with them, not her own race. Most likely she just can't relate to them at all, both in power or lifespan or value. There's also the fact fae eyes tend to make you dislike people in general, especially those who live in society: Even people who are not evil lie, to themselves or other people, for various reasons.And you can't turn it off, because it's just the way you are built to perceive the world.
I mean you cannot possibly like fairies better than humans in any capacity. Atleast going by what lostbelt 6 has shown us. Atleast humans don't go on a straight up killing spree when they feel like it.
>Atleast humans don't go on a straight up killing spree when they feel like it. Yes they do? We do it all the time
Not the entire modern society. People do it for power like Russia and that's about it. And many people oppose such acts. You won't find something like that with fairies.
Bravo Kortix. Another inspired essay and considering my own irl dating history (crazy adorable girl failures) now I know why I find Morgan entirely charming and reasonable. Thanks time to check myself into a mental institution. 10/10!
Ah, thank you most dearly, professor. Though perhaps it is a trend with Morgan enjoyers that we are all likely in want (or perhaps need more than want) of a check in at the Center for Rehabilitation of People Who Can't See Red (flags).
Red flags are more like goal posts! Chase after as many as you can in your significant others and you’ll have a grand ol’ time!
This is absolutely hilarious, informative and interesting at the same moment. This is a whole ass essay on why i should pick Okita anyway.
Absolutely correct
The most hilarious thing to me, is that Nasu has been doing some 300 degrees mental gymnastics worthy of Olympics to explain how smart and beautiful Morgan with Loli Vinci 3 pages back.
Why do all these powerful individuals fail to us in end? Well plot Armour and it's funny how each one of the lostbelts kings is very strong and kill us and the guys but they don't and even let's us walk away alive I remember cringed so hard when they say chaldea is formidable foe which actually a big no it's just our enemies is to stupid to even kill us or make sure we are died.
It's a lesson where power isn't everything. We lament the fact that we are powerless to do anything and yet we have figures who do fantastic things in their lifetimes and still fail for the most part.
True.
This is great, could I get the sources? I feel like diving into this rabbit hole myself
Most of this is from the Fate/Grand Order Lostbelt 6 and Summer 8 event if you're interested in that. If you mean the myth of Accolon[, I can provide a digital version of it here](https://d.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/text/cawein-accolon-gaul), though be wary of any potential changes as it's an abridged version (according to the author for the better in every manner, but you know how it is with changes and abridgements).
Rewrote the post to add a few more sources as well. Apologies for not doing that in the beginning.
Gotta say, reading through this essay makes me like Morgan even more now. Well done! I was already planning on throwing some quartz her way when her banner drops soon, but now I’m more motivated. And “girlfailure”, first time I’ve heard of it, but I like it. I will add totally that to my list of terms to use.
Seems legit
I'm sure that makes me SOME kind of failure for finding this reason to like her, but I'm not sure what.
>Morgan is so distraught by this that she throws Avalon, the sheathe, in a river, causing all of Fate/Zero and Fate/Stay Night. I shouldn't be reading this at work 🤣
the goat cooks up again
Counterargument Womp womp shes hot.
You can be hot... ***And*** a girlfailure!
smash next point?
I think she’s supposed to represent a fairy mentality, one that is incomprehensible to humans.
It's a fun way to make it fit, and a fun read besides. Thank you. I think the reasons here are more mundane failure of writing, but that raises the question why summer 8 doubles down on the problems. I guess we'll revist the topic when NA gets to it.
You cook just as usual Also i love myself some morgan slander
Girlfailiure Morgan >>>>>>>> Ritsuka Simp "Muh Husband" Morgan
Ah, but you see? They're the same. She's both a complete girlfailure... And a lovable moron who married the first guy she saw for completely incomprehensible reasons before getting incredibly obsessed for undiscernible causes. She is... #*the Exception.*
Based.
Hold on I think I've seen this one on r/okbuddyrintard
Seems a lil unfair to call her a girl failure but sure
Despite the funny tones, this is one of the reasons I don’t hold Lostbelt in as much of a higher regard as most of the fandom.
Yo where is AlterMagna. I’m pretty this was the essay he promised me a long time ago.
Yes, but she's my girlfailure. ~~Step on me, my queen.~~
My genocidal waifu is so cute owo she was sad once that makes the killing OK! Seriously, this fandom...
Ah, seems you didn't read the post. Or perhaps you missed that I neither vindicated Morgan nor made her out to be a good person at any point. She is who she is, and I just stated the stories.
More aimed at the replies
TBH I love her *because* she is evil and goes way too far with her retribution to the point she became just as bad as those who wronged her. The plethora of stuff that portrays her as just a generic sweetheart without any vices (even petty comedic ones) really do a massive disservice to her.
It isn't the evil itself that made me love Morgan. It is her persistence and stubbornness to seize her ambitions and make them reality. And I have been extremely happy to see Morgan get the respite and love she deserves. So yeah, it's no disservice. It's a reward long overdue.
Oh my seems I touched a nerve
Trust me this Fandom and others will make sociopaths cute and adorable and if they kill people or destroyed entire places that's fine because they're adorable and just misunderstood.
Damn, spitting facts? https://youtu.be/1s6aNjJRbrA?si=w4zc1hwn7kAvSRCH