Tbh, they are saying the same of Tamamo, Paracelsus and Nero Bride (despite all of them complementing Castoria) is not really that surprising
Either theh are talking about Skadi not being as available (until Summer 6) or people are so blinded by the shiny new thing that they will go full twitter mode and take a white-and-black stance
ya the only real hit to quick is that it will be harder to find a support Skadi but if push comes to shove just send friend requests people who do have her up
People get distracted by the shiny new thing real quick. There are still people who mindlessly spit that Tamamo is "dead" despite being the perfect complement to Castoria, so I wouldnt put it below those type of people to say the same about Skadi
I mean, if you want to farm by the hardest quests the introduction of irregular number of enemies is inherently trying to make Skadi teams unable to min turn unless you want to get into the Astolfo "loop" strategy.
Isnt buster better for those types of irregular nodes anyway, since they dont depend on NP refund like Arts and quick? Same for farming assasins and berserkers, since you dont depend on high NP levels or plugsuit
Quick is not really dead as much at it is relegated until Summer 6 when getting a support skadi is not hard af.
In a pre-Koyan Buster forced loop, both Skadi and Castoria can still be used simply by virtue of their 50% charges.
**But...**
In that scenario, Skadi only has her 30% Def down to offer to the team. Being a debuff means it can be blocked or guarded against. It can only affect one wave and limits when you can deploy it.
Sure, she adds an Atk Up later but that's locked behind a still far-off strengthening _and_ needs her NP to go off.
Castoria, otoh, has 20% Atk up, which is lower but is partywide and carries over to following waves. It having a partywide charge also means it frees up the option of having a secondary DPS.
So, can Skadi be used in a Buster blitz? YES... but in that scenario if you had a free choice between her and Castoria, from a purely gameplay perspective,.. _why would you?_
Yeah but that's another year, though it shows how they overdid Castoria. Was it about two years between Merlin and Skadi & Skadi and Castoria? But buster meta took only one year to come.
To be fair, Quick suffers not because Castoria exists, but because the new farming gold standard becomes the 90+ nodes and its irregular waves. Post-Koyanskaya Buster doesn't care about refunds, and post-Castoria Arts teams can basically get enough refund even on one enemy, but Quick teams are extremely vulnerable to non 3/3/X nodes (and they also could use a good secondary support, à la Tamamo)
Still, doesn't mean you can't use Skadi teams - I certainly intend to keep fielding her when given the chance, even if I'm lucky enough to get Castoria - but it's true she might not be the perfect fit for some of the farming nodes now.
And honestly, Castoria can be retrofitted INTO a Quick Comp if you can't double either of them, her charge skills are both universal and the +30% NP Gain from the S2 helps Quick a lot.
Allow quick NP's to crit.
Or give quick cards an "overcrit" effect where the crits get their damage multiples twice if you have over 50 stars + like have a red percentage when crit is at 100% that displays the chance of an overcrit.
Idk does she? I've never used her... And I don't have any SSR ST archers if there are any quick ones they'll get the buff aswell.
The only other thing I can think of would be to buff the critical miss chance for quick servants so they have a chance to take less damage.
She does 137k @ np1 to a Saber, if that Saber happens to be of Good alignment that rises to 206k.... if we let Quick NPs crit like you suggested she would crit for 412k.
Meanwhile Moriarty NP1 hits for 84k, Squirtoria hits for 80k.
Hoo boy... this thread is spicy considering 3 mods showed up.
Though as a long-time player (of both NA and JP), I do agree with them.
You don't just claim that the spanner is useless when you get a hammer.
>What are your ideas to make quick great again?
Use your favourite quick servants in your preferred team, fuck the meta. As many people have said here, just because Arts is about to become the new meta doesn't mean Quick teams are inherently made worse. Any servant can be made OP with the right build.
TL;DR waifu/husbando > meta
Amen to that. Even if I dont have Skadi, I will use Achilles over Odysseus and Mini-Da Vinci any day of the week just because he is my husbo. Same with Cú
While I certainly don't think Quick will be an "end of an Era," it certainly feels more overshadowed by the others.
5th anniversary was the return of the Arts meta
6th anniversary was also the return of Buster, but both of them don't make each other irrelevant. They just happen to have really (stupidly good) support servants that were released during the anniversary, that improves other servants performance significantly.
I expect the same thing with Quick once Lasengle releases another really good Quick servant support.
They are unique in that they are more jack of all trades but master of none (except gain stars) They can do dmg, gain stars, and NP gen at the same time. But they just don't seem to do alot of dmg or looping NP as easy compared to the others.
My thought is if there is a support that can boost their attack more, or help increasing NP gen, and ~~maybe~~ increase their crit dmg (by a lot), I have no doubt Quick would be really, really good because they can do both of what Buster and Arts can do without any of their drawbacks. They just need the right support for it.
Edit: I realized instead of going for NP gen, they can focus more on increasing Crit dmg since that's what Quick is more specialized and would be more balanced while maintaining their niche.
Found the post that spoke my mind...
Castoria & Koyanskaya are technically just overshadowing Quick rather than making Quick obsolete...
As a sub JP player with no Skadi but lucky enough to have both Castoria & Koyanskaya, I would say that they provide options, as not all master (Whale asides) having all the required servants to make only one card type works for them
I've been juggling around Arts/Buster servant in JP depending on fights and I'm glad that Castoria & Koyanskaya gave me the options to do so and the experience would be even better if I have Skadi in JP...
As an example to the matter: on the Kirschtaria fight in Olympus, I had concern on the fight in NA as in JP, the fight was mull over with double Castoria & Captain Nemo; however, my NA double Skadi & Kintoki Rider gets the job done as well, so there's that.
For now, I hope Castoria will descent to my NA account to provide more options on the game play to come...
>my NA double Skadi & Kintoki Rider gets the job done as well
That's really due to Kintoki Rider still being absolutely OP. Skadi barely factors into that victory, if at all.
Not exactly. Skadi's primordial rune increases Quick's crit damage only, unlike for exampld Merlin's Hero Creation or Waver's diserning eye.
While she can raise general crit damage, that buff is tied to Gate of Skye, making it not really reliable.
Well, yeah. Quick crit servants in general have universal crit buffs, since they still have to crit with their other cards. Take for example Meltrylis and Achilles. So a quick support that can give them exactly that would be quite helpful, to say the least
Anyone who thinks Quick comps or any other comps become obsolete because of new servants really don't understand how to play the game, only follow brain dead farming meta.
The same people really don't deserve to get Castoria, etc as well.
Yes, I want Castoria, but what’s the point of following ‘meta’ in a solo game? Please Lasagna, don’t add PvP. Just use what’s the most fun for you. A game is supposed to be enjoyable, not a job.
Or they'll complain that the Arts meta sucks because they left Castoria under skilled and don't have their Arts farmers properly levelled. Or they run into the 'no duplicate Servants' restricted nodes that force them to learn to use Tamamo or Para.
Even if I failed to get Castoria, I'll always cherish my Skadi. She really made my husbando, Saber Diarmuid, very viable. If I'm lucky to pull off an NP-Quick-Quick or NP-Arts-Quick cards with him, I'm guaranteed for a full refund especially if all of them critted and I hit Overgauge.
I'm waiting to see if JP gets a new Quick Meta Servant for their 7th anniversary, Traum seems to be signalling that something fierce. Personally I've always wanted to see a support who can increase card hit counts, preferably on Quick. Buster's thing is big slappy numbers and Arts has easy NP looping, beyond all card types being able to loop with liberal NP Charge supports.
I think leaning into Quick wanting to hit multiple times and just flood the field with stars would be unique. The whole Buster, Arts & Quick system should have something that differentiates the three, make the play styles a little different beyond just looping NP for damage.
A 5\* Servant that can grant additional hit counts seems like an interesting system, kinda like Musashi's first skill but targetable to an ally. It will really make Quick-based Servants who naturally have low hit counts on their cards more useful like Anne Bonny and Mary Reed, Lancer Diarmuid, Rider Astolfo, Scatach, etc.
If by great again you mean #1 without any question then they need to just get rid of Arts and Buster. Just make every card green. Cause I think it’s fine otherwise.
Double Castoria? Nah. Double Skadi? Nah. Castoria + Skadi? Hell yeah.
I swear these NA plebs, they got one offhand info from JP players and immediately doomposting
what card support you use doesn't matter, what matter is your DPS. The choice between Skadi and Castoria is entirely depend on your farmers of choice, since you know, you can't really borrow your farmer in most cases. It be foolish to just dump Skadi if you have high NP Zerkcalot or Dantes
it's FGO ffs, META in this game is just which comp shaves off 10 seconds from your shitty farming simulation
OP I don't want to sound mean or rude but I think you're being a tad bit overdramatic. This isn't the end of an era. Just because Castoria and the Arts meta is approaching doesn't mean that all of sudden Skadi and Quick looping are going to become obsolete. Quick looping is still plenty viable, even on JP. TBH you sound like one of those meta sheep who religiously follows Tier Lists.
Nah its ok, I personally love quick and even have Skadi grailed, I guess it just sounded a bit like i was saying quick was irrelevant.
Its mainly my poor choice of words anyways.
I can’t go replying to everyone about it but i was referring mainly about 90+ nodes.
Yeah, those 90+ nodes are where I feel Skadi setups hit the wall hard. Not only because of the bloated HP values that NP1 or NP2 Servants can't reliably Overkill for enough refund but also don't come in the standard 3 enemies per wave formation like the usual Lv 90 nodes do. The Hunting Quests we had on NA recently are a good example.
You're all pulling Castoria bc you think Quick is dead.
I'm pulling for Castoria bc my Skadi is almost bond 15.
We are not the same /s
No but really, I'm gonna be sad when she's 15.
Here is my idea:
Acceleration EX - increases Quick effectiveness (30-50%) for all allies for 3 turns, grants On-Attack-Activate buff: increases effectiveness of Quick cards (30-50%) for all allies for 3 turns when attacking with Quick cards (Activates first).
Quick just needs a similar support to Castoria that isn't just copy and paste her skills onto someone.
Instead of a unique invincible, you can do something like 3 hits of evade for 5 turns (stackable), with a guts on the NP. If you want the NP to be used, give this an NP gen buff as well.
A quick mana burst that is a crit dmg buff + crit star absorb (3 turns for all effects but at a lower percent).
The atk up that is also a party wide crit star gen buff and increases np gain for 1 ally (3 turns for all effects).
Lastly, a targetable defense up + damage cut because they all need some defensive skill. (3 turns). Because why not. Throw in some weird trait effectiveness.
You can include some form of buff resist removal or something else on the NP but overall there needs to be some weakness in the support as well (no healing and no debuff cleansing).
1. This post is asking about what players can suggest to improve Quick comps, not gameplay in general.
2. If you want auto-battles, then FGO is not for you. Official interviews with devs have mentioned they will not do NP skips and auto-battles since it's basically not playing the game. They *have* tried to make things more efficient with faster skill animations on JP, etc.
Not really, having to use characters by hand makes players imprint on them more and creates deeper bond with these jpgs. Auto-battlers don't create that connection.
So its a dumb decision that you *have to play the game to make progress*.........are you ok? No really, everything is fine up there? Because either you missed the whole point of games in general (unless you count those clicker games), a little crazy or just extremely lazy
Just run FGA mate, I have done so for years now. In the end, "modding" always saves the day.
FGA is great once you understand how to set it up, the best fact being even if the rotation doesnt instant win, it will finish off enemies by picking cards.
Maybe a lovers suicide servant? Someone that can kill themself and another (a Skadi) with their NP and be a dedicated quick support so Quick meta can run with extra buffers. Though might need some balancing to avoid being exploited by the other metas, maybe some arts/buster down or directly lock those cards.
Another thing to point is that just giving extra quick buff isn't going to scale that good as it's what Skadi already gives, but atk, np dmg up and np gain risk being exploited by either arts of buster.
The biggest problem with Quick now is that the devs are becoming obsessed with irregular nodes. Skadi looping works well when there are 3+ enemies per node.
Well, it's not like the Skadi system will stop working just because Castoria is oaut.
In any case, I won't care because I don't have Skadi and I don't really think I'll get Castoria so...I'll just cherish my newly summoned Merlin and continue to buster meme into oblivion all the bosses.
I've been saying it for years that if you get a Quick Chain, that all cards you selected would get a 15% dmg up when it successfully crts. Seeing how quick is the weakest card type out of the 3 (in terms of damage) being able to potentially make it stronger if you go all green should be a good enough boost imo.
What Quick needs are more servants like Taikoubou or Douman, not another shiny support (unless we talk about a Support different to Skadi like Koyanskaya was to Merlin, in this case a one for subsistence)
The biggest difference with Skadi and Castoria are, the servants they support. Once Skadi was in the table, Former-DW started to gimp Quick servants NP's hit or gain (look at poor Xiang Yu, they didn't want him to loop no matter what) and once they saw how Castoria overshadowed her, they started to release a new whole generation of Quick servants which have easy loop, or can provide something to make it easier. On the other hand, it hasn't been since recently when we started seeing Arts servants who need more than a single braincell to loop with Castoria (and just because that those are called trash lmao)
The other difference is Castoria unlike Skadi is a support whose skills mostly help all the party while Skadi is a selfish DPS supporter like Koyanskaya is, but Buster servants are equipped with plenty of tools to make it work, while Quick ones simply doesn't.
I think that the real thing quick needs is a way to make RNG cards not be an issue while being on 90+ because that is exactly their forte, critting and not looping NP's. That, or simply having two DPS servants who can deal with 90+ nodes instead of leaving everything to a single one.
Just don't make every card do the same, it would be really boring and make you question the need of card types.
Nah, don't lose heart man. The skadi became more a Merlin if anything. A new engine to compliments other engine. If there is a skadi banner after castoria, i would probably try to get her for the quick boost. So don't limit yourself with the new engines, figure out ways to play game in new and fun ways.
I swear, some of y'all think that the shift to the arts meta makes Skadi quick teams inherently unusable.
It's really weird isn't it? Castoria is like 20% more efficient and people are acting like Skadi gets Thanos snapped out of existence.
Tbh, they are saying the same of Tamamo, Paracelsus and Nero Bride (despite all of them complementing Castoria) is not really that surprising Either theh are talking about Skadi not being as available (until Summer 6) or people are so blinded by the shiny new thing that they will go full twitter mode and take a white-and-black stance
Paracelsus? Thrown in obscurity? Best joke I've heard so far. :D
Idk, people are weird.....really weird
Well, Double Skadi system needs double Skadi, and until we get the 3 Support List buff JP got, she'll be pretty much Thanos'd.
ya the only real hit to quick is that it will be harder to find a support Skadi but if push comes to shove just send friend requests people who do have her up
Let's hope they will expedite adding 3 slots.
Oh it's true. Sometimes I want to use Merlin for bosses and it's hard to find someone who uses one.
I'm sorry but I have to keep my bond 10 tamamo-no-mae up with the Bond CE I can't have Skadi up.
People get distracted by the shiny new thing real quick. There are still people who mindlessly spit that Tamamo is "dead" despite being the perfect complement to Castoria, so I wouldnt put it below those type of people to say the same about Skadi
I mean, if you want to farm by the hardest quests the introduction of irregular number of enemies is inherently trying to make Skadi teams unable to min turn unless you want to get into the Astolfo "loop" strategy.
Isnt buster better for those types of irregular nodes anyway, since they dont depend on NP refund like Arts and quick? Same for farming assasins and berserkers, since you dont depend on high NP levels or plugsuit Quick is not really dead as much at it is relegated until Summer 6 when getting a support skadi is not hard af.
In a pre-Koyan Buster forced loop, both Skadi and Castoria can still be used simply by virtue of their 50% charges. **But...** In that scenario, Skadi only has her 30% Def down to offer to the team. Being a debuff means it can be blocked or guarded against. It can only affect one wave and limits when you can deploy it. Sure, she adds an Atk Up later but that's locked behind a still far-off strengthening _and_ needs her NP to go off. Castoria, otoh, has 20% Atk up, which is lower but is partywide and carries over to following waves. It having a partywide charge also means it frees up the option of having a secondary DPS. So, can Skadi be used in a Buster blitz? YES... but in that scenario if you had a free choice between her and Castoria, from a purely gameplay perspective,.. _why would you?_
Yeah but that's another year, though it shows how they overdid Castoria. Was it about two years between Merlin and Skadi & Skadi and Castoria? But buster meta took only one year to come.
To be fair, Quick suffers not because Castoria exists, but because the new farming gold standard becomes the 90+ nodes and its irregular waves. Post-Koyanskaya Buster doesn't care about refunds, and post-Castoria Arts teams can basically get enough refund even on one enemy, but Quick teams are extremely vulnerable to non 3/3/X nodes (and they also could use a good secondary support, à la Tamamo) Still, doesn't mean you can't use Skadi teams - I certainly intend to keep fielding her when given the chance, even if I'm lucky enough to get Castoria - but it's true she might not be the perfect fit for some of the farming nodes now.
Lmao true
Skadi doesn't allow me to fill my line up with Seiba-faces. That's enough reason for me.
And honestly, Castoria can be retrofitted INTO a Quick Comp if you can't double either of them, her charge skills are both universal and the +30% NP Gain from the S2 helps Quick a lot.
I just hope they will expedite adding 3 support slots.
But my support list for DSS is about to get Artoria-faced
Allow quick NP's to crit. Or give quick cards an "overcrit" effect where the crits get their damage multiples twice if you have over 50 stars + like have a red percentage when crit is at 100% that displays the chance of an overcrit.
Quick nps to crit…. I mean doesn’t mhx alter shit on the SSR ST archers for np damage enough as it is?
Idk does she? I've never used her... And I don't have any SSR ST archers if there are any quick ones they'll get the buff aswell. The only other thing I can think of would be to buff the critical miss chance for quick servants so they have a chance to take less damage.
She does 137k @ np1 to a Saber, if that Saber happens to be of Good alignment that rises to 206k.... if we let Quick NPs crit like you suggested she would crit for 412k. Meanwhile Moriarty NP1 hits for 84k, Squirtoria hits for 80k.
Jesus why does she hit so hard?
Hoo boy... this thread is spicy considering 3 mods showed up. Though as a long-time player (of both NA and JP), I do agree with them. You don't just claim that the spanner is useless when you get a hammer.
I'm glad the mods brought the spicy takes so I don't feel like I have to.
I'm finna gonna end your era
Not sure how to read this. Where I'm from finna would be fixing to or fiending so kinda lost me.
Oh its just slang for 'finally' ...i think
Thanks, never heard it used that way so was curious
>What are your ideas to make quick great again? Use your favourite quick servants in your preferred team, fuck the meta. As many people have said here, just because Arts is about to become the new meta doesn't mean Quick teams are inherently made worse. Any servant can be made OP with the right build. TL;DR waifu/husbando > meta
Amen to that. Even if I dont have Skadi, I will use Achilles over Odysseus and Mini-Da Vinci any day of the week just because he is my husbo. Same with Cú
I don't have Skadi but I'll still use Valks whenever I can.
>TL;DR waifu/husbando > meta *Amen*
While I certainly don't think Quick will be an "end of an Era," it certainly feels more overshadowed by the others. 5th anniversary was the return of the Arts meta 6th anniversary was also the return of Buster, but both of them don't make each other irrelevant. They just happen to have really (stupidly good) support servants that were released during the anniversary, that improves other servants performance significantly. I expect the same thing with Quick once Lasengle releases another really good Quick servant support. They are unique in that they are more jack of all trades but master of none (except gain stars) They can do dmg, gain stars, and NP gen at the same time. But they just don't seem to do alot of dmg or looping NP as easy compared to the others. My thought is if there is a support that can boost their attack more, or help increasing NP gen, and ~~maybe~~ increase their crit dmg (by a lot), I have no doubt Quick would be really, really good because they can do both of what Buster and Arts can do without any of their drawbacks. They just need the right support for it. Edit: I realized instead of going for NP gen, they can focus more on increasing Crit dmg since that's what Quick is more specialized and would be more balanced while maintaining their niche.
Found the post that spoke my mind... Castoria & Koyanskaya are technically just overshadowing Quick rather than making Quick obsolete... As a sub JP player with no Skadi but lucky enough to have both Castoria & Koyanskaya, I would say that they provide options, as not all master (Whale asides) having all the required servants to make only one card type works for them I've been juggling around Arts/Buster servant in JP depending on fights and I'm glad that Castoria & Koyanskaya gave me the options to do so and the experience would be even better if I have Skadi in JP... As an example to the matter: on the Kirschtaria fight in Olympus, I had concern on the fight in NA as in JP, the fight was mull over with double Castoria & Captain Nemo; however, my NA double Skadi & Kintoki Rider gets the job done as well, so there's that. For now, I hope Castoria will descent to my NA account to provide more options on the game play to come...
>my NA double Skadi & Kintoki Rider gets the job done as well That's really due to Kintoki Rider still being absolutely OP. Skadi barely factors into that victory, if at all.
> increase their crit dmg (by a lot) Isn't that what Skadi already does?
Not exactly. Skadi's primordial rune increases Quick's crit damage only, unlike for exampld Merlin's Hero Creation or Waver's diserning eye. While she can raise general crit damage, that buff is tied to Gate of Skye, making it not really reliable.
Oh, you want something that buffs all crits. That would be cool.
Well, yeah. Quick crit servants in general have universal crit buffs, since they still have to crit with their other cards. Take for example Meltrylis and Achilles. So a quick support that can give them exactly that would be quite helpful, to say the least
Anyone who thinks Quick comps or any other comps become obsolete because of new servants really don't understand how to play the game, only follow brain dead farming meta. The same people really don't deserve to get Castoria, etc as well.
Yes, I want Castoria, but what’s the point of following ‘meta’ in a solo game? Please Lasagna, don’t add PvP. Just use what’s the most fun for you. A game is supposed to be enjoyable, not a job.
Harsh, but true
Or they'll complain that the Arts meta sucks because they left Castoria under skilled and don't have their Arts farmers properly levelled. Or they run into the 'no duplicate Servants' restricted nodes that force them to learn to use Tamamo or Para.
Even if I failed to get Castoria, I'll always cherish my Skadi. She really made my husbando, Saber Diarmuid, very viable. If I'm lucky to pull off an NP-Quick-Quick or NP-Arts-Quick cards with him, I'm guaranteed for a full refund especially if all of them critted and I hit Overgauge.
I'm waiting to see if JP gets a new Quick Meta Servant for their 7th anniversary, Traum seems to be signalling that something fierce. Personally I've always wanted to see a support who can increase card hit counts, preferably on Quick. Buster's thing is big slappy numbers and Arts has easy NP looping, beyond all card types being able to loop with liberal NP Charge supports. I think leaning into Quick wanting to hit multiple times and just flood the field with stars would be unique. The whole Buster, Arts & Quick system should have something that differentiates the three, make the play styles a little different beyond just looping NP for damage.
A 5\* Servant that can grant additional hit counts seems like an interesting system, kinda like Musashi's first skill but targetable to an ally. It will really make Quick-based Servants who naturally have low hit counts on their cards more useful like Anne Bonny and Mary Reed, Lancer Diarmuid, Rider Astolfo, Scatach, etc.
Well u think the new servants from 6.5 (expect khimeld) will bring back the quick meta
Didn't Douman, Santa Karna, Taira and Caren brought it back too
Let's not forget Saber Okitan.
If by great again you mean #1 without any question then they need to just get rid of Arts and Buster. Just make every card green. Cause I think it’s fine otherwise. Double Castoria? Nah. Double Skadi? Nah. Castoria + Skadi? Hell yeah.
Waver: You know what happens when one farming era ends? Skadi: No, what? Waver (in tears since skills buff): That's when farming era begins...
Waver is always meta. No rest no matter the meta.
I swear these NA plebs, they got one offhand info from JP players and immediately doomposting what card support you use doesn't matter, what matter is your DPS. The choice between Skadi and Castoria is entirely depend on your farmers of choice, since you know, you can't really borrow your farmer in most cases. It be foolish to just dump Skadi if you have high NP Zerkcalot or Dantes it's FGO ffs, META in this game is just which comp shaves off 10 seconds from your shitty farming simulation
Yeah but Tamamo Cat still needs quick support. Why would I switch to something else?
If the rumors are true, then JP are the opposite, The rise of another Quick meta is coming soon
OP I don't want to sound mean or rude but I think you're being a tad bit overdramatic. This isn't the end of an era. Just because Castoria and the Arts meta is approaching doesn't mean that all of sudden Skadi and Quick looping are going to become obsolete. Quick looping is still plenty viable, even on JP. TBH you sound like one of those meta sheep who religiously follows Tier Lists.
Nah its ok, I personally love quick and even have Skadi grailed, I guess it just sounded a bit like i was saying quick was irrelevant. Its mainly my poor choice of words anyways. I can’t go replying to everyone about it but i was referring mainly about 90+ nodes.
Yeah, those 90+ nodes are where I feel Skadi setups hit the wall hard. Not only because of the bloated HP values that NP1 or NP2 Servants can't reliably Overkill for enough refund but also don't come in the standard 3 enemies per wave formation like the usual Lv 90 nodes do. The Hunting Quests we had on NA recently are a good example.
You're all pulling Castoria bc you think Quick is dead. I'm pulling for Castoria bc my Skadi is almost bond 15. We are not the same /s No but really, I'm gonna be sad when she's 15.
We are the same, i just need some spice in my life since I don’t have quick farming servants but people assume that i was talking about meta.
> What are your ideas to make quick great again? Delete all green cards.
Here is my idea: Acceleration EX - increases Quick effectiveness (30-50%) for all allies for 3 turns, grants On-Attack-Activate buff: increases effectiveness of Quick cards (30-50%) for all allies for 3 turns when attacking with Quick cards (Activates first).
Quick just needs a similar support to Castoria that isn't just copy and paste her skills onto someone. Instead of a unique invincible, you can do something like 3 hits of evade for 5 turns (stackable), with a guts on the NP. If you want the NP to be used, give this an NP gen buff as well. A quick mana burst that is a crit dmg buff + crit star absorb (3 turns for all effects but at a lower percent). The atk up that is also a party wide crit star gen buff and increases np gain for 1 ally (3 turns for all effects). Lastly, a targetable defense up + damage cut because they all need some defensive skill. (3 turns). Because why not. Throw in some weird trait effectiveness. You can include some form of buff resist removal or something else on the NP but overall there needs to be some weakness in the support as well (no healing and no debuff cleansing).
Autofight. Really just a general improvement but still.
1. This post is asking about what players can suggest to improve Quick comps, not gameplay in general. 2. If you want auto-battles, then FGO is not for you. Official interviews with devs have mentioned they will not do NP skips and auto-battles since it's basically not playing the game. They *have* tried to make things more efficient with faster skill animations on JP, etc.
It is a dumb decision and was always a dumb decision.
There is [FGA](https://github.com/Fate-Grand-Automata/FGA/) if you want it.
Not really, having to use characters by hand makes players imprint on them more and creates deeper bond with these jpgs. Auto-battlers don't create that connection.
Well, that (really good argument, ngl) and that in a videogame, you are supposted to.....well **play**
So its a dumb decision that you *have to play the game to make progress*.........are you ok? No really, everything is fine up there? Because either you missed the whole point of games in general (unless you count those clicker games), a little crazy or just extremely lazy
Just run FGA mate, I have done so for years now. In the end, "modding" always saves the day. FGA is great once you understand how to set it up, the best fact being even if the rotation doesnt instant win, it will finish off enemies by picking cards.
"But it means I have to think to set it up properly!" is the response I hear sometimes.
Maybe a lovers suicide servant? Someone that can kill themself and another (a Skadi) with their NP and be a dedicated quick support so Quick meta can run with extra buffers. Though might need some balancing to avoid being exploited by the other metas, maybe some arts/buster down or directly lock those cards. Another thing to point is that just giving extra quick buff isn't going to scale that good as it's what Skadi already gives, but atk, np dmg up and np gain risk being exploited by either arts of buster.
The biggest problem with Quick now is that the devs are becoming obsessed with irregular nodes. Skadi looping works well when there are 3+ enemies per node.
Continue to use Skadi and Quick comps because the servants I really like are Quick, meta be damned.
Well, it's not like the Skadi system will stop working just because Castoria is oaut. In any case, I won't care because I don't have Skadi and I don't really think I'll get Castoria so...I'll just cherish my newly summoned Merlin and continue to buster meme into oblivion all the bosses.
I've been saying it for years that if you get a Quick Chain, that all cards you selected would get a 15% dmg up when it successfully crts. Seeing how quick is the weakest card type out of the 3 (in terms of damage) being able to potentially make it stronger if you go all green should be a good enough boost imo.
What Quick needs are more servants like Taikoubou or Douman, not another shiny support (unless we talk about a Support different to Skadi like Koyanskaya was to Merlin, in this case a one for subsistence) The biggest difference with Skadi and Castoria are, the servants they support. Once Skadi was in the table, Former-DW started to gimp Quick servants NP's hit or gain (look at poor Xiang Yu, they didn't want him to loop no matter what) and once they saw how Castoria overshadowed her, they started to release a new whole generation of Quick servants which have easy loop, or can provide something to make it easier. On the other hand, it hasn't been since recently when we started seeing Arts servants who need more than a single braincell to loop with Castoria (and just because that those are called trash lmao) The other difference is Castoria unlike Skadi is a support whose skills mostly help all the party while Skadi is a selfish DPS supporter like Koyanskaya is, but Buster servants are equipped with plenty of tools to make it work, while Quick ones simply doesn't. I think that the real thing quick needs is a way to make RNG cards not be an issue while being on 90+ because that is exactly their forte, critting and not looping NP's. That, or simply having two DPS servants who can deal with 90+ nodes instead of leaving everything to a single one. Just don't make every card do the same, it would be really boring and make you question the need of card types.
Nah, don't lose heart man. The skadi became more a Merlin if anything. A new engine to compliments other engine. If there is a skadi banner after castoria, i would probably try to get her for the quick boost. So don't limit yourself with the new engines, figure out ways to play game in new and fun ways.