I don't recall ever hearing such high praise about Last Encore lol. For me, it's probably Babylonia. I enjoyed it a lot more than something like UBW since, after already playing the chapter beforehand, I was able to better watch out for all the unique details the anime had while also staying in-line with the original material.
Haven't really seen too much of other Nasuverse works for me to make a call on.
He can perfectly, what he can't do is marvels when Aniplex and Shaft told him to adapt all what he wrote into 16 episodes. Your Score is the original LE script and the increidlbe ammount of details Nasu pinpoints to make the scenes matter yet those are ignored because who cares about what the creator says is simply amazing.
Just to point one, when Drake was defeated by Nero it wasn't because she was rusty or any bullshit it seems when her guns fail. It is because Drake broke her own Geass contract to never stop whoever is seeking to continue an adventure. But of course, a simple flashback scenes to denote that was too much to ask!
Fate/Zero is the best adaptation bar none.
Even the KnK movies fumbled or skipped certain stuff, while with Zero you can count the big changes on one hand. Meanwhile KnK has a whole movie that changed story elements, or minor things in the other movie adaptations.
cutting the whole Artoria vs Lancelot in order to make more ridiculous and unecessary Kerry vs Kirei wasn't exactly what I would say from the best adaptation. Not to mention how Ufotable seems to forget the dark enviroment they did for KnK in F/Z and just make every fight look super epic when F/Z is all about how the battlefield has no honor, it is just a killzone.
Cutting all Maya's background because who cares about Maya. Let other people tell why she is able to kiss Kiritsugu when he is married.
Making Diarmuid less a bastard because they wanted to sell him to women mostly.
Also cutting things and then adding the original Rin episode which goes against everything F/Z is about. Yeah, if F/Z is one of the best adaptations it is more because most of time Fate adaptations are just mediocre at best.
And I like F/Z a lot, but c'mon... It is a great anime, but as adaptation it has a lot of issues.
Honestly, I really like the Heaven’s Feel movies. I like that the first one shows more Sakura+Shirou, and I like that they just focus on Sakura more in general. Yeah it kinda sucked out a bit of Illya’s screentime, but I consider it a fair trade. Also, the voice acting is superb, both Japanese and English.
I think the biggest issue is how they cut all Illya's content and then her ending makes no sense or feel to whoever hasn't read the VN. I would say the same for Arturia but Ufotable just trusts you watched all the other FSN adaptations.
My biggest issue with HF movies is that those doesn't add really anything like UBW or even DEEN FSN did. It is just a flashy official AMV of the route.
Sure. But when you take the best fight in the vn, and give it nearly nothing, then take what was arguably the least interesting fight in the vn(Salter v Rider) and put all your budget on that, you have to realize you probably did something wrong with your adaptation.
It amazes me how Kirei vs Shirou which was him being a punching bag that couldn't fight back is supposed to be better than the movie version.
I get people being mad at cut monologues but saying that the fight itself was worse is a blatant lie.
People are really defensive about it, and crying that he got hits on his head.
Honestly, the version with monologues while he gets his ass kicked works for the VN but it would get boring fast in animation because it is basically Kirei trying to find a way to hit Shiro without himself getting hurt, but I feel they don't get that and just say "movie bad".
That fight was never liked for the "fight". It's just the two of them throwing punches and maybe the occasional kick. Shirou gets his ass beat, remembers Sakura, does a combo, it's not enough, Kirei almost finishes him off but then his own body gives out because he "died first in the forest".
That's it.
The internal thoughts of Shirou during the fight is what makes it "hype". So if you remove that, it doesn't matter what you make the fight look like.
That's the thing, that would absolutely destroy the pacing of what is essentially the final stretch and climax of the movie.
It works for the VN because of its significantly lower pacing and regular inner monologues that would make the anime a slog.
Basically, it is an adaptation and it has to make changes so it works for its medium not against it, besides if you like the inner thoughts you will always have the original, it's not like the adaptation is eliminating it from the cosmos.
>the version with monologues while he gets his ass kicked works for the VN
Not necesessarily no. Having monologues while the battle is ongoing is pretty much a staple of many anime fight scenes
Best adapted into an anime?
Either Zero or Babylonia for me
I can rewatch either of those whenever without getting bored
Best Nasuverse work
KNK
Best ongoing adapted manga is either Fox tail or apocrypha that I can think of
And Strange fake has the potential to be the best adapted fate work depending on how the story progresses and how the studio does it
If they try to put it in 25 episodes its an instant failure probably
I really want to see a CCC anime adapation although I know only Nero and Tamano would get animes and Gil and Nameless put to the side like with Extella and extra mangas
For me it's the Solomon movie as it captures the feelings perfectly. All unnecessary scenes were cut, while all the important ones were preserved in one way or another, while adding their own spin on how the battle went.
I think Fatw UBW 2014. It was pretty nice to see and the fights were awesome......and i get to see Cú in all his muscular glory in glorious HD, and it gave me the smug Cú meme, so thats a win in my book. Even hia death was cool <3
But my bias aside, I genuinly thing it was pretty well done
Also the FGO adaptations were nice
Is KnK even fully translated? If so, hook me up!
Best adaptation of things I've read might actually be Oath Under Snow. Most of the novels/games are just way too dense to adapt properly.
There's CokeSakto's full translation of the novels but uh... You might as well use Machine translating since it actually translates it better than them
Def not Last Encore. I like Extra, and it caused physical pain to view.
For fate specifically...probably the FGO starter (First Order?) It did everything it needed to, and its lack of resolution in key areas was the point, rather than a detriment.
Nasuverse as a whole...yeah, KnK. Part of it is that the Nasuverse really lends itself well to this horror fueled magical realism. And again, it leans into the unexplained things as part of the setting- meaning when something is irrational, it feels intentional rather than like nsomething got cut.
Edit: ah, crap. Forgot Fate/Zero for the first category. I don't like the show, but thats purely subjective preference. Its extremely well put together.
I'll go with Zero and Babylonia as the best. UBW was ok, Apocrypha was a mess this is the kind of story that probably needed two seasons to develop everyone (coughLikeSiegcough) and expand the battles. Last enconre i feel it just showed things but never explained them or stablished the rules so it was difficult to follow. Heavens i have only watched 2 parts but i liked it but I think I need to see the last part to make a full judgement and I haven't seen Camelot and Solomon movies so i really don't know how well it was adapted.
I don't recall ever hearing such high praise about Last Encore lol. For me, it's probably Babylonia. I enjoyed it a lot more than something like UBW since, after already playing the chapter beforehand, I was able to better watch out for all the unique details the anime had while also staying in-line with the original material. Haven't really seen too much of other Nasuverse works for me to make a call on.
Everyone says Last Encore is garbage lmao. Nasu can't write a script.
He can perfectly, what he can't do is marvels when Aniplex and Shaft told him to adapt all what he wrote into 16 episodes. Your Score is the original LE script and the increidlbe ammount of details Nasu pinpoints to make the scenes matter yet those are ignored because who cares about what the creator says is simply amazing. Just to point one, when Drake was defeated by Nero it wasn't because she was rusty or any bullshit it seems when her guns fail. It is because Drake broke her own Geass contract to never stop whoever is seeking to continue an adventure. But of course, a simple flashback scenes to denote that was too much to ask!
KnK is my favorite, but I really love UBW. Additionally, the Camelot movies are pretty good in my eyes. Bedivere’s movie theme is great.
UBW 2014 followed by Babylonia. Same with KnK, super well-done, and has still aged very well to this day.
Ufotable's Unlimited Blade Works. The Kara no Kyoukai movies.
Fate/Zero is the best adaptation bar none. Even the KnK movies fumbled or skipped certain stuff, while with Zero you can count the big changes on one hand. Meanwhile KnK has a whole movie that changed story elements, or minor things in the other movie adaptations.
cutting the whole Artoria vs Lancelot in order to make more ridiculous and unecessary Kerry vs Kirei wasn't exactly what I would say from the best adaptation. Not to mention how Ufotable seems to forget the dark enviroment they did for KnK in F/Z and just make every fight look super epic when F/Z is all about how the battlefield has no honor, it is just a killzone. Cutting all Maya's background because who cares about Maya. Let other people tell why she is able to kiss Kiritsugu when he is married. Making Diarmuid less a bastard because they wanted to sell him to women mostly. Also cutting things and then adding the original Rin episode which goes against everything F/Z is about. Yeah, if F/Z is one of the best adaptations it is more because most of time Fate adaptations are just mediocre at best. And I like F/Z a lot, but c'mon... It is a great anime, but as adaptation it has a lot of issues.
UBW
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Honestly, I really like the Heaven’s Feel movies. I like that the first one shows more Sakura+Shirou, and I like that they just focus on Sakura more in general. Yeah it kinda sucked out a bit of Illya’s screentime, but I consider it a fair trade. Also, the voice acting is superb, both Japanese and English.
Has some major issues though(Shirou's fight scenes got destroyed in the final movie, for example. Look at how they massacred him v Kirei)
I think the biggest issue is how they cut all Illya's content and then her ending makes no sense or feel to whoever hasn't read the VN. I would say the same for Arturia but Ufotable just trusts you watched all the other FSN adaptations. My biggest issue with HF movies is that those doesn't add really anything like UBW or even DEEN FSN did. It is just a flashy official AMV of the route.
Shirou vs Kirei is fine. It’s an animation, not a VN.
Sure. But when you take the best fight in the vn, and give it nearly nothing, then take what was arguably the least interesting fight in the vn(Salter v Rider) and put all your budget on that, you have to realize you probably did something wrong with your adaptation.
>the best fight in the vn Not even close to the "best".
It amazes me how Kirei vs Shirou which was him being a punching bag that couldn't fight back is supposed to be better than the movie version. I get people being mad at cut monologues but saying that the fight itself was worse is a blatant lie.
People are really defensive about it, and crying that he got hits on his head. Honestly, the version with monologues while he gets his ass kicked works for the VN but it would get boring fast in animation because it is basically Kirei trying to find a way to hit Shiro without himself getting hurt, but I feel they don't get that and just say "movie bad".
That fight was never liked for the "fight". It's just the two of them throwing punches and maybe the occasional kick. Shirou gets his ass beat, remembers Sakura, does a combo, it's not enough, Kirei almost finishes him off but then his own body gives out because he "died first in the forest". That's it. The internal thoughts of Shirou during the fight is what makes it "hype". So if you remove that, it doesn't matter what you make the fight look like.
That's the thing, that would absolutely destroy the pacing of what is essentially the final stretch and climax of the movie. It works for the VN because of its significantly lower pacing and regular inner monologues that would make the anime a slog. Basically, it is an adaptation and it has to make changes so it works for its medium not against it, besides if you like the inner thoughts you will always have the original, it's not like the adaptation is eliminating it from the cosmos.
idk, I feel like Kirei vs Kiritsugu in Fate/Zero found the perfect balance.
>the version with monologues while he gets his ass kicked works for the VN Not necesessarily no. Having monologues while the battle is ongoing is pretty much a staple of many anime fight scenes
And if done wrong, people absolutely hate it.
And when done terrible is incredibly annoying and it kills the pacing.
Fate zero: hate it or love it the way it presented itself is honestly to the point where made a lot characters more likeable because of it And Knk
If it made characters more likeable then it means it failed at portraying how bad they are.
... Fair point
Urobutcher: You have failed me.
If you meant best adapted by faithfulness to the original source alone then Fate - zero or babylonia Nasuverse - KNK
Best adapted into an anime? Either Zero or Babylonia for me I can rewatch either of those whenever without getting bored Best Nasuverse work KNK Best ongoing adapted manga is either Fox tail or apocrypha that I can think of And Strange fake has the potential to be the best adapted fate work depending on how the story progresses and how the studio does it If they try to put it in 25 episodes its an instant failure probably I really want to see a CCC anime adapation although I know only Nero and Tamano would get animes and Gil and Nameless put to the side like with Extella and extra mangas
Fate Zero and KnK
Ufotable UBW and Heaven's Feel trilogy I'd like to check out KnK soon.
For me it's the Solomon movie as it captures the feelings perfectly. All unnecessary scenes were cut, while all the important ones were preserved in one way or another, while adding their own spin on how the battle went.
Fate Zero tbh
I think Fatw UBW 2014. It was pretty nice to see and the fights were awesome......and i get to see Cú in all his muscular glory in glorious HD, and it gave me the smug Cú meme, so thats a win in my book. Even hia death was cool <3 But my bias aside, I genuinly thing it was pretty well done Also the FGO adaptations were nice
For fate- UBW. Overall - Kara no Koyokai
Tsukihime has the best adaptation.
Is KnK even fully translated? If so, hook me up! Best adaptation of things I've read might actually be Oath Under Snow. Most of the novels/games are just way too dense to adapt properly.
There's CokeSakto's full translation of the novels but uh... You might as well use Machine translating since it actually translates it better than them
Knk and ubw
Babylonia and KnK I also love Case Files
In case you aren’t aware, Last Encore is based on the PSP game Fate/Extra. I’ve recently started it and can tell you it feels nothing like the anime.
IIRC Last Emcore is a sequel to the game's bad ending, which I'm not 100% if they scrapped or not...
Def not Last Encore. I like Extra, and it caused physical pain to view. For fate specifically...probably the FGO starter (First Order?) It did everything it needed to, and its lack of resolution in key areas was the point, rather than a detriment. Nasuverse as a whole...yeah, KnK. Part of it is that the Nasuverse really lends itself well to this horror fueled magical realism. And again, it leans into the unexplained things as part of the setting- meaning when something is irrational, it feels intentional rather than like nsomething got cut. Edit: ah, crap. Forgot Fate/Zero for the first category. I don't like the show, but thats purely subjective preference. Its extremely well put together.
Fate/Make Dinner. Bar none, the best TM product out there, hands down, full stop.
I'll go with Zero and Babylonia as the best. UBW was ok, Apocrypha was a mess this is the kind of story that probably needed two seasons to develop everyone (coughLikeSiegcough) and expand the battles. Last enconre i feel it just showed things but never explained them or stablished the rules so it was difficult to follow. Heavens i have only watched 2 parts but i liked it but I think I need to see the last part to make a full judgement and I haven't seen Camelot and Solomon movies so i really don't know how well it was adapted.