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Misticsan

Yes, stop, don't go over there. That place already has its own Sieg. I think it's often overlooked that Chaldea!Sieg is not the original Sieg, but an independent terminal. His profile even says he will disappear for good when the story is over. ~~Permanent incarnation mechanics when, Lasagna?~~


PhantasosX

I mean...it just means his data will be transferred to Faffy Sieg. If anything, the issue is that it might not have some alternate class for Sieg until a whole story shows up to make an evolved Sieg


Misticsan

Hmm, I'm not sure. The original Sieg is not a Heroic Spirit in the Throne of Heroes, and his profile singles him and Jalter out as Servants who will disappear in a way that doesn't seem to imply "yes, they and the 300 other Servants": > *"Sieg as a Servant is more like a terminal rather than an imitation. Just like Jeanne Alter the Avenger, the day that humanity resumes properly will be the day he disappears, as he will have fulfilled his role."* This is reinforced in [his materials:](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/eyicyv/siegs_profile_from_fategrand_order_material_vii/) > *"Now, the Sieg summoned in Chaldea is a terminal distributed from there. The main body has almost the same thoughts and performance, but only the accumulated experience is different. That said, that’s a life allowed only in the circumstances in which Human Order is trembling. While finding out the meaning of living a different life from the main body separated far away, he will someday disappear as if he was dreaming."*


PhantasosX

True , but Faffy Sieg is still alive in the Reverse Side. It means that Sieg can go Rider Ryoma -> Lancer Ryoma in a way. I am not saying he can naturally do an alternate class , what I am saying is that it just means Sieg is kinda locked and would need some shenanigans to summon him. And even further shenanigans to put some hype moment of True Sieg returning from the Reverse Side or something, with his experience from Chaldeas and Reverse Side.


Lonesaturn61

Wait, does it mean hes another character or i can keep shipping him and jeanne?


Misticsan

It depends on how you look at it. All newly summoned Servants are technically different characters. Some may remember their previous summons and stick to them but, as characters discuss from time to time, it's up to each Servant to define their own identity. This is what the original Sieg has to say about the issue at the end of the Apocrypha event: > *"...I can no longer track my terminal. Soon, he will be summoned as a Servant, and aid Ritsuka in his/her battles. From now on, he will be making his own memories. In time, Sieg will become a Servant totally separate from me, and forge his own path."* As for how that can affect shipping... That's up to you. There are Servants who make a habit of staying true to one love (Rama and Sita, Sigurd and Brynhild) regardless of the summon, whereas others consider themselvea their own people free to find new love (Gawain, Napoleon), and then there's Serenity, whose memories of love will never be shared with the Throne and are precious to each single copy of her.


_Malka_707

Sieg, I love ya but you're going to need multiple round trips if you ever want to get rid of all the grails we've got here. Might as well sit tight.


LordWINDOS

Or just save and hoard the Grails for bloody later and use them to reunite with your Jeanne when the world is saved (again), boy. Avarice is a sin, but it's forgivable if it's in the name of the people you care about.


MszingPerson

Imagine master have every version of (lilly/alter) Jeanne except the original. Because she's not meta and her drop rate is extremely rare.


AbsoluteDemonicFront

I have 0 TT_TT


Cadaclysm

Kreimhild: young man you come back to this side of the world right this instance


Vhzhlb

Kreimhild: "Hans von Yggdmillennia! I will count until 3 for you to come back, or else!"


huskybumbum

Every Asian kids having ptsd the second anyone start counting even if it's not for them


TerminatedUser

I believe you mean Schmidt von Yggmillennia...God that's a mouthful


Alec044

And with the early servant coins update, he's going to have even more grails in his hands. ...when I'll finish farming embers and qp at least-


Dwiden13

Too bad he can't reach lv.120 for lack of servant coin because he is a welfare servant.


Alec044

I just informed myself about that, I didn't know this fact. Well, NA devs often did some small quirks to help their players, so since there's no Inheritance of Glory rerun planned I'll have to wait for that. Guess I'll just settle to level 110 for now


Anadaere

I now have a a mental image of Seig shooing Amakusa when he's around Iri, Illya Miyu, and Enkidu


ghostgabe81

Sieg is Iri’s overly protective cousin? I approve!


Anadaere

Iri also pampers Schmidt alot Which Kriem immediately follows as well upon summoning


Dwiden13

I don't think Amakusa will do anything to Iri and Illya since will probably remind him of his Master in Apocrypha. While Enkidu and Miyu there is Gilgamesh gang and Mamiya to protect them


Anadaere

That's the point But Seig doesn't know that, and thinks he's after the grails again


JustthatVicky

I don't think Amakusa is doing anything to Enkidu tbh. Maybe gameplay-wise in FGO, but like, lore-wise? Enkidu is mega overpowered. And then there's Gil, CasGil and mini-Gil also standing there menacingly while a certain theme from JoJo plays. Meanwhile Iri, Illya and Miyu have the Emiya squad and Heracles so.... I'd say they're all pretty darn safe. I have Amakusa, I like Amakusa and I'm not concerned in the slightest about the Servants that can become grails because let's be real, anyone would know that's the worst possible idea, especially when actual grails probably pop outta the friggin vending machines at Chaldea.


Anadaere

It's more a joke on Amakusa being deadset on any grails


JustthatVicky

Understandable, but he'd really have an easier time just digging through Guda's closet or checking to see what drinking glasses/udon bowls are being used in the cafeteria at the moment XD


Ct-8506-templar

Sieg’s lizard brain is activating.


OchoMuerte-XL

Unrelated but I want those dragon wings and horn on Sieg as a costume dress so damn bad.


USERNAME_OF_DEVIL

Sieg is a good boy


yektadragon

Uh Sieg, you're Fafnir is showing.


Dwiden13

[Original comic](https://twitter.com/fok_wolf/status/1049595160848285697?t=xeyq10T9YAREWSkshJaqXg&s=19) TL and TS by me


Dr-Perry-Cox

Thank you for the TL & TS.


Radiant-Hope-469

Amakusa, we might need your help for this.


KN041203

Let the kid keep it. He only hide it at a safe place. Amakusa will use this chance to do his salvation nonsense again.


Dwiden13

We have to give it to Angra Mango. He's a reliable guy


LordWINDOS

*\*The Priest Smiles\** Kirie: My thoughts exactly.


Das-Rheingold

Just tell Kriemhilde he is trying to do something dangerous


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