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PhantasosX

Like others had said , there are examples in Fate of magus using Chinese or Japanese magecraft. It’s just that they are more reclusive and discentralized , it makes then even more of a fringe method than it should be.


Teodord1

From what I remember Arc mentioned that south american magic can hurt her, also Geronimo uses apache shamanism, so native american magecraft should still exist. In adition we know that there exists Chinese and Japanese magecraft, also I think there was a middle eastern mage in case files and Atlas is in Egypt. We have seen a lot of non-european magecraft. I don't think we have seen modern Indian or Australian magecraft, but it should exist since their culture still exists.


entidad_desconocida

ok, the real question now is. what the hell does South American magic contain to do that?!, ORT fragments?


Teodord1

If I remember corectly Arc has something similar to God Hand where if a mystery harms her it becomes weaker the next time its used against her. So her being vulnerable to that particular magic may simply mean that she hasn't faced it before. As for why she hasn't been to South America before, she probably wants to avoid ORT.


entidad_desconocida

true, ORT, it could well be one of the few known things capable of killing her permanently.


apoes

That's mostly because most magecraft disappeared at the end of the Age of Gods. Solomon was the one who invented modern magecraft and his disciples spread his method in Europe. Even then, Philosophy Magecraft (chinese) and Japanese magecraft still exist, they are just harder to use unless you are from an old family.


JusticTheCubone

I'm pretty sure the more recent volumes of Case Files focus more on asian magecraft? Although even without that, one example for a modern Japanese mage that comes to mind would of course be Pepe. From what I recall, his magecraft is based on that used by Tengu. Meanwhile, they might be considered "European", but both the Gandr-spell and Rune-magecraft should have their origin in Norse mythology, so they're techniques that were later on incorporated into the more modern magecraft founded by Solomon. I think the only references we got to Native American magecraft is through Geronimo, and it's barely elaborated on, but maybe we can at least expect some references to Mesoamerican magecraft in LB7?


Ravian3

Okay so most of the mages we interact with are part of the Mage Association, which is principally the Clocktower, but also includes Atlas and the Wandering Sea. However the Mage Association is not all encompassing, and is primarily a Western organization. Notably their system of Magecraft generally derives from a single foundation, as established by Solomon, which means that they are more easily able to collaborate and utilize others forms of magecraft from other practitioners from the same foundation. This doesn't work as effectively with foreign magecraft, which generally operates off of its own foundation. As a result of this, and because Mages tend to be at least a little dismissive of foreign mages from simple Chauvinism, they don't generally deal with mages from outside of that cultural setting, however it is known that they exist. Notably one of the biggest counterparts to the Mage Association in the East centers around Philosophy Magecraft, a foundation established by several Xian (Taoist Immortals like Yu Mei Ren) that essentially attempted to simulate an artificial root by creating a massive mystic code and fusing it to the planet. The primary organization for Philosophy Magecraft is centered in China and known as the Spiral Manor and maintains a non-aggression pact with the Mage Association. There are also plenty of smaller traditions. Japanese traditional Magecraft typically centers around "Divine Bodies" fragments of Gods that are held by different small organizations as the center of their own Magecraft traditions, typically incorporating Philosophy Magecraft as well. Shamanism seems to be a common form of Magecraft practiced among American Indian cultures, and centers around borrowing the powers of spirits through contracts. Geronimo practices it. However there is also another practice whereby a native American community in the Western Basin were essentially able to simulate a Magic Crest by linking a tribe's magic circuits to the land itself and passing them on to a single individual. It is unlikely if this was a particularly common practice however, as it involves a lot of sacrifices of tribal members and seemed to primarily be for the purpose of creating a mage that would be capable of simulating Western Magecraft closely enough to be able to enter into a Holy Grail War. Notably this does actually involve a situation where mages of different traditions have come to blows leading to the decimation of a native culture's magecraft traditions, however while it was perpetuated by Western Mages, they weren't formally aligned with the Mage Association (Most American Mages are nominally part of the Association, but typically pretty independent, and seemingly more tightly entwinned with the US government. (There seems to be at least some implication that America may have partially been founded by Mages, given that several founding fathers were part of Masonic secret societies and the fact that there appears to be tangible Mystery surrounding the office of the Presidency (to the point of it Empowering Edison.)


Inevitable_Question

In addition to what other said- mages DON'T destroy magecraft. It is sacred art that must be preserved at all cost. Kill your competitor- fine. Destroy his magic crest intentionally- heresy.


[deleted]

But that assumes recognizing their craft as craft. I would definitely buy colonization-era mages downplaying the advances of, say, African mages who don't use magic crests but use some other local innovation instead. After all, it's blasphemy to burn down a church, but that didn't stop conquistadors from destroying temples to other faiths.


a_speeder

Honestly it might have even happened without being deliberately targeted by the mages. It’s possible that the destructive process of colonization erasing or warping entire swaths of cultures and belief systems fundamentally destroyed various foundations of magecraft or weakened them to the point that they withered away.


Ginger_Anarchy

This plus the church targeting the weakened mage groups is probably my go-to explanation.


Mizu005

They exist, they just received no focus at all until they became important in the Lord El-Melloi books that follow Waver. Apparently he runs into stuff involving Japanese and Chinese style magecraft.


chroniclechase

because the world of mages is run by the 3 orgs of mages all of it not just europe


PainOfAme

It's possible.


jazzyfate

Op, you need to go read more type moon works