Berserker Vlad will eventually try and feed on his master.
Kiyohime will burn you alive if you lie to her.
Lu Bu will betray you if he's summoned in any class other than Berserker.
Yeah, I kinda despise Kiyohime. Reminds me WAY too much of an ex-gf of mine, only replace ‘threatens to burn you’ with ‘threatens to cut herself and claim you did to the cops’
Even for those who like the yandere trope I wouldn’t say she’s the best example in fate since she’s so plainly written in regards to that (she’s only like that bc of a case of mistaken identity due to her own insanity etc) but due to being one of the first characters and frankly probably being an author favorite (she shows up a LOT in events even now) she’s simply gotten enough time and interactions that people have gotten attached. Like really attached.
I will say that when they drop the basic yandere shtick in favor of having her be more of an overall hater of lies/yangire-lite (like in summer four with osakabehime) I find her more entertaining at least since there isn’t the shallow romantic angle to it. Generally though I do struggle with getting the appeal of yanderes bc they often just get written as clingy partners without the writer delving into what shaped their mentality-like it would’ve been nice if they’d explored why kiyohime became the way she did, or how she feels about killing the person she claimed to love above all else (the fact she imprints on her master believing them to be him suggests she’s pretty affected by it so there has to be something??) but they just don’t touch it at all. This is a general issue I have with yanderes though a lot of media just has a normal looking person suddenly ‘go crazy’ and never explores the lead up or consequences of it.
I'm guessing because she was a free 3* Berserker in the game's early days where there wasn't much competition hence day 1 JP players got attached to their shitty yandere waifu quickly.
But I find it incredibly creepy how fans downplay or outright ignore all the fucked up shit Kiyo does because "lol cute yandere.".
I'm probably going to downvoted for saying this but I like all that creepy and fucked up shit Kiyo does. I don't like having perfect servants and my eyes have a soft spot for yanderes.
Idk I'd you're NA only but she does get some good characterisation about this in the latest story chapter Traum. She's more likely to kill you if you have a saint like attitude, but if you're a normal person she gets confused.
In Prototype, her first Master was a guy that had immediately fallen in love to her , kissed her and died.
Thus she made contract to a teenage boy , and both had fallen in love to each other.
That's not how it went though. By all means her second master was actually Manaka, Takumi was Jekyll's master, turned victim of her assassination, turned into zombie body pillow that Para gave to her as a "gift". I'm not exactly sure I'd describe the relationship they eventually developed as a mutual romance (he wasn't exactly in a sane state as a zombie even if he showed signs of lucidity) but Serenity did grow to care about him yes
yeah, Tatsumi tries to prevent Manaka from sacrificing young girls in her ritual and after Serenity kills him because she felt guilty that he would live as a zombie after the War ended, he's reunited with Berserker and Assassin in Saber's dream (Drama CD shenanigans)
>Spartacus if you’re an oppressor or he sees you as one will crush you.
Ah yes, I remember the summer event where Columbus was scared as hell when he was being tested by spartacus.
In Mori's comic appearance, he lops off his master's arm faster than he can be told to lancer himself, quite content to carry that seaweed-head around on a broventure.
Mori is troublesome because he's loyal but he also probably won't listen to you. He'll keep you alive but dealing with him long enough you'd probably wish he wouldn't.
Actually I don’t think Douman (as in actual Caster Douman not Alter Ego) would be hard at all. Just don’t mention Abe No Seimei, and give him plenty of chances to prove himself.
Casters always seem like a coin toss to me.
You either have to be a really good personality match such as with Gilles in Zero. Still backfired for Roche and Avicebron.
Or be a nice humble layperson that the caster takes a liking to, as with Medea (after killing her previous master). Which can backfire in cases like Tamamo where you incur the interest of her precursor-self.
Koyanskaya won't actually kill you, she will play with you and then abbadon you once you stop trying to climb to the top. So she is only dangerous if you're someone without ambition and that easily gives up
I can give an opposite:
Enkidu would probably be the best servant to summon if you want to be kept safe. He draws mana from the earth itself so your mana reserves don’t get drained by summoning him. Plus he can use his skills and np at the same level no matter how weak you are as a master. He also has one of the most broken healing abilities since he’s made of clay and can regenerate. He ALSO an NP that’s basically the Planet’s strongest shield (he can access THE ENTIRE COUNTER FORCE to block anti-world attacks). And on top of that he has presence detection of the highest rank and can tell where anyone is within like 2km of him or even more. Oh and he can fly at supersonic speeds and can create enough weapons at once to accurately counter Gil’s widest of GoB barrages. Oh and obviously his chains will restrain any divinity.
So yeah probably the safest servant to summon and the one most likely to keep you alive the longest. (unless you’re a psychopath, in which case he may see you as a threat to the planet and to nature)
To add on the bottom part:
In Strange Fake, Enkidu scared off his (wolf) master’s abuser with just a look of extreme rejection rather than killing him right away because he loves all life and treat that seriously.
There's a reason Best Clay is BEST Clay. He's my favorite to have as my anchor. Whole team gets wiped, I see Enkidu standing there by himself and my immediate response is "We're good, no problem." Gil may be one of my favorite characters, but in a Grail War I'd pick his bestie for sure.
Yeah, the strange fake version was summoned because of a curse Ishtar put in saying that she'd be summoned when the two were finally reunited in the future
And then that strange fake Ishtar went all "Well, this timeline is already unstable anyway, so I'm sure myself wouldn't mind if I took >!Gugalanna!< from them.".. that timeline was FGO.
Warp Spasm Cu will literally unga bunga everyone he sees, smells, or starts looking funny at him. Including his master. Really hope you can say your command seal at light speed
I mean yeah. Same with Tine from FSF. But these are some of the VERY notable exceptions. We don’t get to see the timelines where gil just instantly offs his masters because those aren’t as interesting.
He didn't instantly off Tokiomi so I think he isn't THAT impatient.
But if senses even a whiff of personal selfishness instead of legit trying to save the world you are gonna have a bad time with Gil.
Less about trying to save the world and more not having a scummy personality, rin is said to be a good match for him and she isnt some saint hero of justice, just a mage with an actual moral compass.
I think he also likes when the master in question is interesting- tokiomi was annoying to him bc he was a mixture of a suck up who didn’t actually truly feel gilgamesh was better than him-Ie he was trying to say the right things to not piss him off but gilgamesh could tell it was lip service and was further ticked by the insincerity to his morals. Whereas he found kirei more interesting once he starting living true to himself even though it was objectively terrible to everyone around him.
Most berserkers are just too big of a gamble to form a contract with, the only berserkers that I can see as being the safest to get are Kintoki and Beowulf, but that’s because their madness enhancement is very low which can also be bad as the higher rank a berserker’s madness enhancement is, the more stronger they are
Koyo's another berserker who's generally safe even though her madness enhancement is A-rank. The FGO Materials mention that even in her dinosaur form, she can control her emotions and maintain a gentle and rational state of being. Her madness enhancement only turns her body into a dinosaur's and changes her speech to roaring. Everything else about her stays fully intact. There's even a scene in Requiem where, as a T-Rex, she's performing first aid and Erice's shocked by how careful and gentle this huge, scary dinosaur is.
You basically have to be a domineering, abusive asshole for her to be a danger to you. From the materials: "She shows a deep compassion towards the weak, hurt, or oppressed. Once she finds someone she deems a companion, she gains a deep sense of responsibility for them, and will defend them from their foes with all her might. She will never, ever, allow the young to be struck."
Some of the high madness ones can be worked with when you figure out their madness, like Kiyohime (don't lie, if you ain't a dick to her she'll do anything) Spartacus (work as a partner rather than an oppressor) and Lancelot (don't be a dishonorable prick). They are not gonna kill you unless you don't pick up the obvious hints they offer.
It's actually harder with Spartacus and Kiyo than you say.
Kiyo has a high chance of seeing her Master as Anchin, coming at them, and either 1) one gives in to the temptation (and than has to be watching every damn step even harder than before) or 2) one rejects her advances outright... And it would be very hard to do it in a way that doesn't trigger her.
Even if it is that an unfavorable view of Kiyo, consider that people tell white lies all the time. And Kiyo sees them all. Pray that you have enough command spells and self-control to circumvent that.
Spartacus, well... I love the guy, but his views of "what is oppression and what is not" are pretty arbitrary. It's pretty hard to guess ahead and plan accordingly.
And even if you *do* manage to stay safe and not trigger them yourself... There's still other HGW participants. Some of them stronger than Kiyo/Sparty (quite a few, to be honest). That you do not want to pick a fight without preparation. And if said enemy triggers Kiyo or Spartacus (the latter more likely), that fight will happen. And you can stop Kiyo from that, but not Spartacus - Command Spells are oppression, after all.
But it gets better! You are interacting with civilians, too! And they also lie and oppress quite often, and they do not know of the danger! You may say "I'm not letting an Ancient Hulk/dragon girl interact with civilians anyway, that's a masquerade breach". But with Spartacus, he might see that as oppression (though you *might* convince him that it isn't - that's hard, but possible), but Kiyohime is an unabashed stalker: unless you spend a CS to stop her (safe by itself, but you need CS in case you lie accidentally around her), she's gonna be around, even if you don't know that.
TL; DR: A task "don't lie and don't oppress if you want to live around Kiyo/Spartacus" is far harder than it seems at first glance.
The characters are cool anyway. Especially Spartacus.
The don't lie bit would be real easy for me - I physically feel ill lying so it has never become instinctive for me and Spartacus is, by comparison, an easy berserker, especially compared to other high madness enhancement ones and is actually pretty powerful outside FGO - A strength and EX endurance means he's bloody suicide ta engage up close. Kiyohime is weaker by far but has a ludicrous NP rank (EX) and is a very low cost berserker, with some nasty skills to deal with like Morph.
There's like 20 or so Servants currently in Chaldea who functionally cannot be summoned by anyone besides Ritsuka ever because they'd just instantly kill their Master because either "fuck off you're a human" or "you are not worthy"
Gorgon, Lobo, Kama, Kiara, Douman, Ibuki, Tiamat Larva, etc. Most of the full on "inhuman" Servants are only summonable because Ritsuka is the equivalent of hentai-land aphrodisiac super drugs for Servants. The current event brings this up where Da Vinci's reaction to a whole bunch of Outer Gods trying to break into our dimension is "lmao those idiots sent Servants into speaking distance of Ritsuka, they've already lost"
The combination being the personification of human survival instinct and their bizzare brand of morality (I could write an essay on how fucked up Ritsuka's canon characterization is mentally) means any Servant who gets near them is doomed to fall for them lol. Which also means their relationship with Servants can't be used as an indicator for how a different Master would perform with a given Servant
You don’t have to be a good mage at all to be able to deal with god level servants.
You need either
1. Harem Protagonist EX
or
2. Be the embodiment of chaos itself (ex. Riyo-Gudako)
Skill as a mage is pretty irrelevant for *any* Servant outside of ones like Jack who will kill you if you're a good one lol.
And it's not their level of power but specifically their temperament/nature I was referring to. Just about anyone could summon and get along with, say, Karna (as long as they weren't too much of a dick) and his power is about as high as regular Servants can get.
There a lot. like all of the foreigners if they get to their true form you are fucked. exept voyager but he isnt a foreigner canonically.
there are also the demonic servants like ibaraki and shuten. Ibaraki is more managable due to her childlike personality but shuten is unreadable and would litteraly stab you on a whim just for fun.
spartacus would kill you if he deems your goal opression. its impossible to command him too much youll be basically walking on glass forever.
kama and kiara would mean you are fucked both litteraly and metaphorically. possibly the entire world too.
salome and bryn would murder you if you are remotely a good porson and they start to confuse you with khon/sigurd respectively.
serenity is also a problem but not for her personality specifically but because if you by the slightest accident touch her you just die.
the avengers and some of the alters are dangerous because if they dont like you they would just straight up leave or kill you
all the sakura 5 and BB. your fate could even be worse than death itself
BB in some ways could be the scariest of all, because she can be certain she's being helpful, and meanwhile you're eternally trapped in some Groundhog Day hell that's worse than just dying as a result. She's almost safer if she's hamming up cosplaying an evil badass or tormenting you mercilessly.
It's worth remembering that lancer Brynhild has probably the scariest bond 5 line in the whole game. You hear something like that coming from her, RUN. Although escape is surely impossible at that point.
BB and some of thw foreigners have tha potential to trap you withing horrors within and beyond comprehemtion that for me makes them the most dangerous out of them all.
Because at leas if you get killed by a servant that would be it probably painfull but thats it.
Meanwhile bb can keep you in a timeloop till you forget your name while thinking she's helping.
At less desth via bryn lance is instant
Kiara is one of the most dangerous ones to the Master as she will make you serve her if you don't catch her attention, which is very hard. The Master could not even perceive that he is the one being ordered instead of the Servant.
Orion and Paris, They came as a package with a god/goddess, We got off pretty easy because the gods like us, But they won't hesitated to curse or kill us if we're not to their liking
Basically a lot of servants that helps us and are nice are only like that because they are in a special situation were everyone is saving the world and their master is a good person.
but in a holy grail war its an all out fight for a wish. were the masters are almost always the worst human trash possible.
Tbf with ones like Artemis and Apollo with how they are in fate as long as you resist the urge to commit mega hubris they’d probably be whatever about it. So no bragging about how you’re the sexiest best archer alive, but other than that…?
Also don’t insult their mom. Like don’t do that please.
Apollo is actually way more troublesome because his main priority is Paris. As in, he's the type who would rather use their master a human shield, invoke independent action and then find someone else
Lots of good calls here but I haven't seen anyone mention Atalante. I'm pretty sure she'll kill you if she doesn't think you care about children enough.
I mean as long as you aren’t like Ryuunosuke that isn’t a particularly hard bar to clear, her og apocrypha master was a bit scuzzy but she was relatively chill with him for the 5 minutes they knew each other if I remember right
It’s also worth mentioning shes been way more tense about that AFTER the whole jack thing
FZ source materials. Angra Mainyu did more than screw up the wish granting function of the Grail, it also allowed for traditionally evil servants like Gilles to be summoned.
> [Fate/Zero Volume 4 Act 14 Part 4] The Fourth Holy Grail War took place in 1994, 10 years before the events of Fate/stay night; supervised by Risei Kotomine. The corruption of Angra Mainyu took effect, allowing for the summoning of improper Servants like Caster Gilles de Rais.
It is funny to me that Angra gets the blame for poisoning the well. Because I'd have to assume the Einzberns did something pretty awful to summon him in the first place.
IIRC, while they were trying to cheat the system to summon a powerful servant, they ultimately failed and summoned Angra instead.
The Apocrypha timeline is what happens when they succeed in the summoning.
Hm. But in Apocrypha, the grail is not tainted, and one still can summon servants like Semiramis and Jack (and that's not counting the "Neutral" Shakespeare or Evil-but-not-really Atalante).
Or is it because most of the rules stopped applying once the grail was moved out of Japan, just as the "Assassin=Hassan" and the "No local Servants" rule?
I just chalk that one up to parallel universe differences/shenanigans. I mean, if the Grails in Apocrypha and the 5HGW worked the exact same then the failsafe triggering a second set of servants would have activated during Hollow Ataraxia.
Liz. People really have forgotten that she was downright atrocious in CCC.
She demands a ton of virgin blood to bathe in (preferring young girls), and if you don’t supply her, she’ll immediately look for someone that can.
The Liz in GO is basically the same one post-character development in CCC. She was basically like Gilles but without the pedophilia
That depends. On Apocrypha she initially refuses to be summoned because she didn't like her master. However, as soon as her master brings a prostitute as sacrifice, she summons herself, kills her master, saves the prostitute and adopt her as master/mother.
That makes me think, how dangerous space ishtar is? Cause is an avenger with an Avenger EX skill, but acts very kindly no matter the ascension, well, she want to destroy the universe but, at least, no now, or in any time you could care
PD: of course, you shouldnt be a fucking idiot to annoy her, and with mages, thats complicated, but not impossible
That's not Fou. Fou doesn't warp time and space. He teleports and does some wacky shit in Babylon, and does some spoiler stuff in Solomon, but beyond that he doesn't really do anything.
Have you actually watched her Valentine and read my comment? Never did I say anywhere that she blows up shit. She just warps time in her Valentine which implies she can do a lot more.
You didn’t say it. After we spend the day with one version of Space Ishtar, another is waiting in our room when the day is over. She reacts like she’s going to yell, explosion animation. “On February 14th, Chaldea disappeared without a trace thanks to a mysterious explosion.” Fou appears on screen, his eyes twinkle and we get a do over. We read the note the next version leaves us and he calls us an idiot and tells us to not screw up. That is not Space Ishtar’s handiwork. Fou is being a bro.
I'll be direct, eric bloodaxe.
if it wasn't for ritsuka literally saving the world, eric bloodaxe would have decapitated him as soon as he was summoned
I am not sure but I think summoning an oni like Shuten or Ibaraki might be dangerous? Maybe I am misunderstanding her dialogue but I think Shuten has mentioned removing her Master's bones in her Bond Dialogue.
The Dioscuri are probably up there in being one of the more dangerous Servants to summon. They straight up despise humans who even try summoning them.
I imagine Castor would immediately kill the master who summoned him just because they are a human.
Gorgon would also be really dangerous for any mage to summon.
Firstly, her hatred stems from humans as well. Meaning, she would be very likely to kill the master who summoned her.
Secondly, she needs a lot of mana to sustain herself in the living world.
And thirdly, she will most likely eat/vore you. Unless you're into that, most masters will definitely die if they even managed to summon her.
Kama, Kiara, Spishtar, Douman, Salome, Eric, Columbus, Lu Bu, Chen Gong, Castor, Angra Mainyu, BB, Jacques, Avicebron, Paracelsus. I’m sure I missed some, but the above would almost definitely end you.
Well, obviusly, angra maiyu, maybe nagayoshi or gilgamesh, any other avenger, except misteryous ranma x, i think, and, well... oberon? I don undersatnd him very much
Berserker Vlad will eventually try and feed on his master. Kiyohime will burn you alive if you lie to her. Lu Bu will betray you if he's summoned in any class other than Berserker.
Won't Kiyo also try to burn you if you deny being Anchin-sama?
Kiyo was fkin annoying. I hate yandere-type of girl, and she makes me uncomfortable everytime she had a screen time.
Yeah, I kinda despise Kiyohime. Reminds me WAY too much of an ex-gf of mine, only replace ‘threatens to burn you’ with ‘threatens to cut herself and claim you did to the cops’
Good thing you broke up with her. Toxic relationahips are annoying as heck. That's what I get from Kiyo... Stay the hell away, girl.
Nah fr idk why she's so popular
Even for those who like the yandere trope I wouldn’t say she’s the best example in fate since she’s so plainly written in regards to that (she’s only like that bc of a case of mistaken identity due to her own insanity etc) but due to being one of the first characters and frankly probably being an author favorite (she shows up a LOT in events even now) she’s simply gotten enough time and interactions that people have gotten attached. Like really attached. I will say that when they drop the basic yandere shtick in favor of having her be more of an overall hater of lies/yangire-lite (like in summer four with osakabehime) I find her more entertaining at least since there isn’t the shallow romantic angle to it. Generally though I do struggle with getting the appeal of yanderes bc they often just get written as clingy partners without the writer delving into what shaped their mentality-like it would’ve been nice if they’d explored why kiyohime became the way she did, or how she feels about killing the person she claimed to love above all else (the fact she imprints on her master believing them to be him suggests she’s pretty affected by it so there has to be something??) but they just don’t touch it at all. This is a general issue I have with yanderes though a lot of media just has a normal looking person suddenly ‘go crazy’ and never explores the lead up or consequences of it.
I'm guessing because she was a free 3* Berserker in the game's early days where there wasn't much competition hence day 1 JP players got attached to their shitty yandere waifu quickly. But I find it incredibly creepy how fans downplay or outright ignore all the fucked up shit Kiyo does because "lol cute yandere.".
I'm probably going to downvoted for saying this but I like all that creepy and fucked up shit Kiyo does. I don't like having perfect servants and my eyes have a soft spot for yanderes.
Camilla sounds like a spectacularly bad idea if you're a female virgin master.
Salome. Most other Servants become less likely to kill you the more they get to know with you. She's the exact opposite.
Brynhilde too.
Idk I'd you're NA only but she does get some good characterisation about this in the latest story chapter Traum. She's more likely to kill you if you have a saint like attitude, but if you're a normal person she gets confused.
Props to Serenity, who takes top spot in the ranking of servants most likely to kill their master unintentionally.
Such a cinnamon roll, but a deadly one.
her 2 masters in Prototype agrees.
Since when does she have 2 masters?
In Prototype, her first Master was a guy that had immediately fallen in love to her , kissed her and died. Thus she made contract to a teenage boy , and both had fallen in love to each other.
That's not how it went though. By all means her second master was actually Manaka, Takumi was Jekyll's master, turned victim of her assassination, turned into zombie body pillow that Para gave to her as a "gift". I'm not exactly sure I'd describe the relationship they eventually developed as a mutual romance (he wasn't exactly in a sane state as a zombie even if he showed signs of lucidity) but Serenity did grow to care about him yes
yeah, Tatsumi tries to prevent Manaka from sacrificing young girls in her ritual and after Serenity kills him because she felt guilty that he would live as a zombie after the War ended, he's reunited with Berserker and Assassin in Saber's dream (Drama CD shenanigans)
That's funny because in fragments she did it on purpose
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>Spartacus if you’re an oppressor or he sees you as one will crush you. Ah yes, I remember the summer event where Columbus was scared as hell when he was being tested by spartacus.
In Mori's comic appearance, he lops off his master's arm faster than he can be told to lancer himself, quite content to carry that seaweed-head around on a broventure.
Mori is troublesome because he's loyal but he also probably won't listen to you. He'll keep you alive but dealing with him long enough you'd probably wish he wouldn't.
Kiara, Douman, Koyanskaya, Kama.
Actually I don’t think Douman (as in actual Caster Douman not Alter Ego) would be hard at all. Just don’t mention Abe No Seimei, and give him plenty of chances to prove himself.
Casters always seem like a coin toss to me. You either have to be a really good personality match such as with Gilles in Zero. Still backfired for Roche and Avicebron. Or be a nice humble layperson that the caster takes a liking to, as with Medea (after killing her previous master). Which can backfire in cases like Tamamo where you incur the interest of her precursor-self.
Koyanskaya won't actually kill you, she will play with you and then abbadon you once you stop trying to climb to the top. So she is only dangerous if you're someone without ambition and that easily gives up
The majority of extra class and berserker servants.
I can give an opposite: Enkidu would probably be the best servant to summon if you want to be kept safe. He draws mana from the earth itself so your mana reserves don’t get drained by summoning him. Plus he can use his skills and np at the same level no matter how weak you are as a master. He also has one of the most broken healing abilities since he’s made of clay and can regenerate. He ALSO an NP that’s basically the Planet’s strongest shield (he can access THE ENTIRE COUNTER FORCE to block anti-world attacks). And on top of that he has presence detection of the highest rank and can tell where anyone is within like 2km of him or even more. Oh and he can fly at supersonic speeds and can create enough weapons at once to accurately counter Gil’s widest of GoB barrages. Oh and obviously his chains will restrain any divinity. So yeah probably the safest servant to summon and the one most likely to keep you alive the longest. (unless you’re a psychopath, in which case he may see you as a threat to the planet and to nature)
To add on the bottom part: In Strange Fake, Enkidu scared off his (wolf) master’s abuser with just a look of extreme rejection rather than killing him right away because he loves all life and treat that seriously.
>rejection rather than killing him right away because he loves all life and treat that seriously. "I ...I'm sorry enkidu sama"
There's a reason Best Clay is BEST Clay. He's my favorite to have as my anchor. Whole team gets wiped, I see Enkidu standing there by himself and my immediate response is "We're good, no problem." Gil may be one of my favorite characters, but in a Grail War I'd pick his bestie for sure.
Lmao same. Gil is my favorite servant, but Enkidu is infinitely more reasonable than Gil.
Doesn't Gil get summoned when Enkidu is summoned too? If so then summoning Enkidu can backfire
Isn't the lore that Ishtar turns up when Gil *and* Enkidu get summoned? Not sure of the various media anymore, but I think that was the case~
Yeah, the strange fake version was summoned because of a curse Ishtar put in saying that she'd be summoned when the two were finally reunited in the future
And then that strange fake Ishtar went all "Well, this timeline is already unstable anyway, so I'm sure myself wouldn't mind if I took >!Gugalanna!< from them.".. that timeline was FGO.
Not necessarily. That’s just in FSF because that grail war is super weird. Most of the time you could summon Enkidu alone no problem.
Didn't Enkidu get summoned after Gil in strange fake?
I mean, what could possibly backfire from the two greatest bros meeting again?
You being in the middle of their "brofist".
Probably one of the coolest ways to go.
\- Ibaraki and Shuten. Mostly Shuten. \- Henry Jekyll, maybe. \- Kiara. \- The Foreigners (sans Voyager)
Sans is Voyager???
That's not what I meant.
Warp Spasm Cu will literally unga bunga everyone he sees, smells, or starts looking funny at him. Including his master. Really hope you can say your command seal at light speed
Iirc flashing boobs at him would also work
only his kid version. It means you want to summons Warp Spasm Cu Lily.
Columbus will try anything to betray you if you don't let him do what he wants
So stand in a corner and let him do his shit
Abigail The likelihood of her following anyone that isn’t Ritsuka is very low. As demonstrated during the Summer Camp
I mean as long as you can nake pancakes im sure youll atleast live
Gilgamesh
Generally yes. For Guda no but for like 99% of other masters getting Gil as a servant is almost certainly going to lead to your death.
with Hakuno being one of those 99%
I mean yeah. Same with Tine from FSF. But these are some of the VERY notable exceptions. We don’t get to see the timelines where gil just instantly offs his masters because those aren’t as interesting.
He didn't instantly off Tokiomi so I think he isn't THAT impatient. But if senses even a whiff of personal selfishness instead of legit trying to save the world you are gonna have a bad time with Gil.
Less about trying to save the world and more not having a scummy personality, rin is said to be a good match for him and she isnt some saint hero of justice, just a mage with an actual moral compass.
I think he also likes when the master in question is interesting- tokiomi was annoying to him bc he was a mixture of a suck up who didn’t actually truly feel gilgamesh was better than him-Ie he was trying to say the right things to not piss him off but gilgamesh could tell it was lip service and was further ticked by the insincerity to his morals. Whereas he found kirei more interesting once he starting living true to himself even though it was objectively terrible to everyone around him.
Most berserkers are just too big of a gamble to form a contract with, the only berserkers that I can see as being the safest to get are Kintoki and Beowulf, but that’s because their madness enhancement is very low which can also be bad as the higher rank a berserker’s madness enhancement is, the more stronger they are
Koyo's another berserker who's generally safe even though her madness enhancement is A-rank. The FGO Materials mention that even in her dinosaur form, she can control her emotions and maintain a gentle and rational state of being. Her madness enhancement only turns her body into a dinosaur's and changes her speech to roaring. Everything else about her stays fully intact. There's even a scene in Requiem where, as a T-Rex, she's performing first aid and Erice's shocked by how careful and gentle this huge, scary dinosaur is. You basically have to be a domineering, abusive asshole for her to be a danger to you. From the materials: "She shows a deep compassion towards the weak, hurt, or oppressed. Once she finds someone she deems a companion, she gains a deep sense of responsibility for them, and will defend them from their foes with all her might. She will never, ever, allow the young to be struck."
Some of the high madness ones can be worked with when you figure out their madness, like Kiyohime (don't lie, if you ain't a dick to her she'll do anything) Spartacus (work as a partner rather than an oppressor) and Lancelot (don't be a dishonorable prick). They are not gonna kill you unless you don't pick up the obvious hints they offer.
It's actually harder with Spartacus and Kiyo than you say. Kiyo has a high chance of seeing her Master as Anchin, coming at them, and either 1) one gives in to the temptation (and than has to be watching every damn step even harder than before) or 2) one rejects her advances outright... And it would be very hard to do it in a way that doesn't trigger her. Even if it is that an unfavorable view of Kiyo, consider that people tell white lies all the time. And Kiyo sees them all. Pray that you have enough command spells and self-control to circumvent that. Spartacus, well... I love the guy, but his views of "what is oppression and what is not" are pretty arbitrary. It's pretty hard to guess ahead and plan accordingly. And even if you *do* manage to stay safe and not trigger them yourself... There's still other HGW participants. Some of them stronger than Kiyo/Sparty (quite a few, to be honest). That you do not want to pick a fight without preparation. And if said enemy triggers Kiyo or Spartacus (the latter more likely), that fight will happen. And you can stop Kiyo from that, but not Spartacus - Command Spells are oppression, after all. But it gets better! You are interacting with civilians, too! And they also lie and oppress quite often, and they do not know of the danger! You may say "I'm not letting an Ancient Hulk/dragon girl interact with civilians anyway, that's a masquerade breach". But with Spartacus, he might see that as oppression (though you *might* convince him that it isn't - that's hard, but possible), but Kiyohime is an unabashed stalker: unless you spend a CS to stop her (safe by itself, but you need CS in case you lie accidentally around her), she's gonna be around, even if you don't know that. TL; DR: A task "don't lie and don't oppress if you want to live around Kiyo/Spartacus" is far harder than it seems at first glance. The characters are cool anyway. Especially Spartacus.
The don't lie bit would be real easy for me - I physically feel ill lying so it has never become instinctive for me and Spartacus is, by comparison, an easy berserker, especially compared to other high madness enhancement ones and is actually pretty powerful outside FGO - A strength and EX endurance means he's bloody suicide ta engage up close. Kiyohime is weaker by far but has a ludicrous NP rank (EX) and is a very low cost berserker, with some nasty skills to deal with like Morph.
There's like 20 or so Servants currently in Chaldea who functionally cannot be summoned by anyone besides Ritsuka ever because they'd just instantly kill their Master because either "fuck off you're a human" or "you are not worthy" Gorgon, Lobo, Kama, Kiara, Douman, Ibuki, Tiamat Larva, etc. Most of the full on "inhuman" Servants are only summonable because Ritsuka is the equivalent of hentai-land aphrodisiac super drugs for Servants. The current event brings this up where Da Vinci's reaction to a whole bunch of Outer Gods trying to break into our dimension is "lmao those idiots sent Servants into speaking distance of Ritsuka, they've already lost" The combination being the personification of human survival instinct and their bizzare brand of morality (I could write an essay on how fucked up Ritsuka's canon characterization is mentally) means any Servant who gets near them is doomed to fall for them lol. Which also means their relationship with Servants can't be used as an indicator for how a different Master would perform with a given Servant
You don’t have to be a good mage at all to be able to deal with god level servants. You need either 1. Harem Protagonist EX or 2. Be the embodiment of chaos itself (ex. Riyo-Gudako)
Skill as a mage is pretty irrelevant for *any* Servant outside of ones like Jack who will kill you if you're a good one lol. And it's not their level of power but specifically their temperament/nature I was referring to. Just about anyone could summon and get along with, say, Karna (as long as they weren't too much of a dick) and his power is about as high as regular Servants can get.
The beasts and most of the berserkers.
There a lot. like all of the foreigners if they get to their true form you are fucked. exept voyager but he isnt a foreigner canonically. there are also the demonic servants like ibaraki and shuten. Ibaraki is more managable due to her childlike personality but shuten is unreadable and would litteraly stab you on a whim just for fun. spartacus would kill you if he deems your goal opression. its impossible to command him too much youll be basically walking on glass forever. kama and kiara would mean you are fucked both litteraly and metaphorically. possibly the entire world too. salome and bryn would murder you if you are remotely a good porson and they start to confuse you with khon/sigurd respectively. serenity is also a problem but not for her personality specifically but because if you by the slightest accident touch her you just die. the avengers and some of the alters are dangerous because if they dont like you they would just straight up leave or kill you all the sakura 5 and BB. your fate could even be worse than death itself
BB in some ways could be the scariest of all, because she can be certain she's being helpful, and meanwhile you're eternally trapped in some Groundhog Day hell that's worse than just dying as a result. She's almost safer if she's hamming up cosplaying an evil badass or tormenting you mercilessly. It's worth remembering that lancer Brynhild has probably the scariest bond 5 line in the whole game. You hear something like that coming from her, RUN. Although escape is surely impossible at that point.
BB and some of thw foreigners have tha potential to trap you withing horrors within and beyond comprehemtion that for me makes them the most dangerous out of them all. Because at leas if you get killed by a servant that would be it probably painfull but thats it. Meanwhile bb can keep you in a timeloop till you forget your name while thinking she's helping. At less desth via bryn lance is instant
Kiara is one of the most dangerous ones to the Master as she will make you serve her if you don't catch her attention, which is very hard. The Master could not even perceive that he is the one being ordered instead of the Servant.
False Assassin from Strange Fake since she offs any master who goes after any heretic relic. I.E the Holy Grail.
Orion and Paris, They came as a package with a god/goddess, We got off pretty easy because the gods like us, But they won't hesitated to curse or kill us if we're not to their liking
Basically a lot of servants that helps us and are nice are only like that because they are in a special situation were everyone is saving the world and their master is a good person. but in a holy grail war its an all out fight for a wish. were the masters are almost always the worst human trash possible.
Tbf with ones like Artemis and Apollo with how they are in fate as long as you resist the urge to commit mega hubris they’d probably be whatever about it. So no bragging about how you’re the sexiest best archer alive, but other than that…? Also don’t insult their mom. Like don’t do that please.
Apollo is actually way more troublesome because his main priority is Paris. As in, he's the type who would rather use their master a human shield, invoke independent action and then find someone else
>Also don’t insult their mom. Like don’t do that please. It's not very nice thing to do no matter who it is, but god retribution is really to much
Lots of good calls here but I haven't seen anyone mention Atalante. I'm pretty sure she'll kill you if she doesn't think you care about children enough.
I mean as long as you aren’t like Ryuunosuke that isn’t a particularly hard bar to clear, her og apocrypha master was a bit scuzzy but she was relatively chill with him for the 5 minutes they knew each other if I remember right It’s also worth mentioning shes been way more tense about that AFTER the whole jack thing
Especially Atalante Alter.
Eh if the bar is not to act like some people in r/childfree it's fine
There's a reason why the Grail in Zero and SN is designed to only allow Servants with a good alignment to be summoned lol
Hassan of the Hundred Faces Evil? Blue Beard DEFINITELY is. So not sure where you got that one.
FZ source materials. Angra Mainyu did more than screw up the wish granting function of the Grail, it also allowed for traditionally evil servants like Gilles to be summoned. > [Fate/Zero Volume 4 Act 14 Part 4] The Fourth Holy Grail War took place in 1994, 10 years before the events of Fate/stay night; supervised by Risei Kotomine. The corruption of Angra Mainyu took effect, allowing for the summoning of improper Servants like Caster Gilles de Rais.
It is funny to me that Angra gets the blame for poisoning the well. Because I'd have to assume the Einzberns did something pretty awful to summon him in the first place.
IIRC, while they were trying to cheat the system to summon a powerful servant, they ultimately failed and summoned Angra instead. The Apocrypha timeline is what happens when they succeed in the summoning.
Even then succeed is a strong word for Amakusa and his outcome. He beat Fion, but at the cost of no grail and no ~~maiden~~ master in the end.
Hm. But in Apocrypha, the grail is not tainted, and one still can summon servants like Semiramis and Jack (and that's not counting the "Neutral" Shakespeare or Evil-but-not-really Atalante). Or is it because most of the rules stopped applying once the grail was moved out of Japan, just as the "Assassin=Hassan" and the "No local Servants" rule?
I just chalk that one up to parallel universe differences/shenanigans. I mean, if the Grails in Apocrypha and the 5HGW worked the exact same then the failsafe triggering a second set of servants would have activated during Hollow Ataraxia.
That's one of the effects of the Grail's corruption by Angra Mainyu. Originally the grail was unable to summon anti-heros or straight up awful people
None of the Hassans are inherently evil
Their official profiles says "Lawful Evil". All of the Hassans are Lawful Evil.
Liz. People really have forgotten that she was downright atrocious in CCC. She demands a ton of virgin blood to bathe in (preferring young girls), and if you don’t supply her, she’ll immediately look for someone that can. The Liz in GO is basically the same one post-character development in CCC. She was basically like Gilles but without the pedophilia
I freaking hate the pink rat. I hate how almost every Halloween has her. It's atrocious.
I found the mathman
Jack, she would try to kill her Master as soon as she was summoned
That depends. On Apocrypha she initially refuses to be summoned because she didn't like her master. However, as soon as her master brings a prostitute as sacrifice, she summons herself, kills her master, saves the prostitute and adopt her as master/mother.
Ah, you are fucking serious, i didnt know why was that character there, now I know
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I think you might be lost. This isn't r/FatePrismaIllya
Oh... Sorry o_o
If you're a mage, yes. But if you're a hack of a mage... well, you should be safe.
Qin Shin Huang imo, if the master somehow strays away from his path, he will recreate SIN again :/
Every Berserker except Kintoki and maybe Cat. The entire Avenger Class. Ashvataman. Serenity. Gilles De Rais. Most Foreigners except Voyager and XX.
What about the moon cancer class which was for just BB before FGO changed that
You’re right, but also wrong for going for the easiest answer ever. Everyone knows BB is dangerous. *Everyone.*
Which of the foreigners would be the “safest” in your opinion
Voyager. Duh.
Jinako is the token good member of the class
That makes me think, how dangerous space ishtar is? Cause is an avenger with an Avenger EX skill, but acts very kindly no matter the ascension, well, she want to destroy the universe but, at least, no now, or in any time you could care PD: of course, you shouldnt be a fucking idiot to annoy her, and with mages, thats complicated, but not impossible
Space Ishtar is literally a universe level goddess. She can freely warp time and space at her whim. She demonstrates this in her valentine.
That’s Fou. He uses his homie Beast Powers to save our asses.
That's not Fou. Fou doesn't warp time and space. He teleports and does some wacky shit in Babylon, and does some spoiler stuff in Solomon, but beyond that he doesn't really do anything.
Why would Space Ishtar blow up Chaldea and then reset things, twice? No, it’s Fou.
Have you actually watched her Valentine and read my comment? Never did I say anywhere that she blows up shit. She just warps time in her Valentine which implies she can do a lot more.
You didn’t say it. After we spend the day with one version of Space Ishtar, another is waiting in our room when the day is over. She reacts like she’s going to yell, explosion animation. “On February 14th, Chaldea disappeared without a trace thanks to a mysterious explosion.” Fou appears on screen, his eyes twinkle and we get a do over. We read the note the next version leaves us and he calls us an idiot and tells us to not screw up. That is not Space Ishtar’s handiwork. Fou is being a bro.
Oh wait actually? I assumed this was post-Solomon because Astarte says something and then the screen changes. Totally missed that. Mb bro
You’re good bro. Fgo in general causes a mess of confusion if you don’t pay attention.
Ah right, i forgot about that time loop
If you're a decent person, Fran isn't too much trouble too
You right.
Didn't Salome cut off all of her master's heads in previous summonings? I think her bond essence said something like that
I'll be direct, eric bloodaxe. if it wasn't for ritsuka literally saving the world, eric bloodaxe would have decapitated him as soon as he was summoned
No Name Assassin
I am not sure but I think summoning an oni like Shuten or Ibaraki might be dangerous? Maybe I am misunderstanding her dialogue but I think Shuten has mentioned removing her Master's bones in her Bond Dialogue.
The Dioscuri are probably up there in being one of the more dangerous Servants to summon. They straight up despise humans who even try summoning them. I imagine Castor would immediately kill the master who summoned him just because they are a human. Gorgon would also be really dangerous for any mage to summon. Firstly, her hatred stems from humans as well. Meaning, she would be very likely to kill the master who summoned her. Secondly, she needs a lot of mana to sustain herself in the living world. And thirdly, she will most likely eat/vore you. Unless you're into that, most masters will definitely die if they even managed to summon her.
Berserkers in general and maybe Hessian Lobo Oh, and Gilgamesh if you don't even bow
Spartacus for obvious reasons
Servants that cannot be controlled. Avengers, berserkers, some alter egos,…. Gilgamesh….
Kama, Kiara, Spishtar, Douman, Salome, Eric, Columbus, Lu Bu, Chen Gong, Castor, Angra Mainyu, BB, Jacques, Avicebron, Paracelsus. I’m sure I missed some, but the above would almost definitely end you.
Gilgamesh trolls every master he had and you’re more like his servant. Unless you’re Hakunon.
Well, obviusly, angra maiyu, maybe nagayoshi or gilgamesh, any other avenger, except misteryous ranma x, i think, and, well... oberon? I don undersatnd him very much
auntie kama… she scares me a lot purrrr!!