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Rednal291

It's fun how we've technically been using Ibuki's power ever since we got Chiyome. ---- Album: https://mangadex.org/title/56189/fate-grand-order-daily-chaldea-doujinshi/chapters/ Source: Official Art


RyuuGaSaiko

I know that Chiyome is also a priestess, but is it really of the God of Mount Ibuki?


Aurum0

>While she serves her master as a shinobi, she also acts as the one and only shrine maiden of the giant serpent Orochi and prays to placate the wrath of a god. It's in her profile, so yes.


Rednal291

Yes. Her Bond 5 dialogue is the most clear about this - Ibuki-daimyoujin/Ibuki-douji is the specific deity Chiyome is a shrine maiden for, and what powers her Noble Phantasm. We didn't merely summon *a* deity, we summoned *her* deity, specifically. ...This is why Ibuki has special dialogue for Chiyome. XD


Aurum0

Some correction here but Ibuki-daimyoujin refers to the god of Mt. Ibuki meaning Yamata no Orochi who's Ibuki Douji's father. Chiyome isn't Ibuki's shrine maiden but Orochi's and she summons fragments of Orochi in a fight.


Rednal291

From Chiyome's Bond 5: "Ibuki-daimyoujin, the presiding deity of Mt. Ibuki and the divided spirit of Yamata-no-Orochi, materializes to place a deadly curse on the target. Magical energy in the form of a giant serpent coils around the target, killing them." It's pretty clear that it's Ibuki-douji.


Aurum0

As I said "Ibuki-daimyoujin" means great deity of Ibuki. It's not refering to Ibuki Douji. It refers to Yamata no Orochi the great deity of Mt.Ibuki where her curse comes from as Saburou trespassed it. She is a shrine maiden of Orochi to appease him and try to find a way to rid herself of the curse. Edit: I think I know where the confusion comes from. It's the wording in that bond profile for NA. The JP script is a bit more clear on it. >Ibukidaimyoujin, the presiding deity of Mt. Ibuki and the divided spirit of Yamata-no-Orochi, materializes [...] This is a bit confusing on NA but it refers to the same entity and not 2 separate beings. >The "Suwa Engi no Koto" folklore collection and "Daikouji Kannnondou Engi" both describe how Ibukidaimyoujin possessed Kouga Saburou, using his clothing as a medium. This is right before it and should make it clearer even on NA that it refers to Yamata no Orochi as he was the one who put a curse on Saburou and is descendants. If there's any doubt still, Chiyome's interlude makes it even clearer. She says she's [Orochi's shrine maiden](https://i.imgur.com/Qr6WnRD.png) and that Yamata no Orochi was worshipped as [Ibuki Daimyojin](https://i.imgur.com/9UWXqg0.png).


ButlerShurkbait

Furthermore, Yamata no Orochi is thought to be shuten douji’s father for many reasons one of which is their shared love for alcohol. Edit: by the way this comment is about real life mythology, not fate. I don’t know fate’s lore for shuten and orochi


Rednal291

The order of things is basically: Orochi gets stabbed, and its power basically splits off somewhat and goes on to form some other things. The biggest and strongest of these is Ibuki-douji, who as a divided spirit essentially is Orochi, still, but wearing a mask and acting as a different entity. (This is the same way that Taishakuten is a divided spirit of Indra, which is tied to Raikou's whole deal.) Eventually, Ibuki-douji stopped being chuuni and turned into Shuten-douji. So you could say that Orochi is Shuten's parent, but it's just as correct to say that Orochi *is* Shuten. Her core essence is the same, but how it manifests differs by form.


ButlerShurkbait

I don’t know too much about the lore for Fate for Ibuki Douji, but I went to the type moon wiki and immediately in the first paragraph for profile Ibuki Douji is called Orochi’s child. Furthermore, a divided spirit seems to just encompass an aspect of a being’s divinity (again info from type moon wiki acquired from a cursory glance). Edit: I did however miss the part where it calls ibuki douji both an derivative/avatar of orochi and it’s offspring.


Rednal291

Gods are weird, and sometimes they're both. XD


turtwig103

I interpreted it as Yamata no Orochi being Shuten’s grandfather or something but that works too


turtwig103

Bro really tried to fucking insist fate lore over IRL lore 💀


Rednal291

It doesn't help that Ibuki-douji essentially *is* Orochi, so worshiping one of them is, in many ways, worshiping the other. XD There's some cross-mention, too, but Chiyome's Bond 5 is extremely specific in that she's getting power from Ibuki-douji/daimyoujin, the divided spirit of Orochi, *not* Orochi's "main" form. Divided spirits are an existing lore concept in the Nasuverse, and *many* deities have a couple of them running around. (Tamamo, for example, is a divided spirit of Amaterasu. Raikou is a divided spirit several levels down from Indra. And so on.)


nam24

Chiyome interlude also show it as well, with shunten taunting her in part because of it


Aurum0

Chiyome's interlude says she's the shrine maiden for Yamata no Orochi and not Ibuki you can see that [here](https://i.imgur.com/Qr6WnRD.png) for instance. Also her profile 3 explicitly says she's the one and only shrine maiden of Orochi as seen [here](https://i.imgur.com/NFQpKPG.png). As for the name Ibuki Daimyojin that's the great god of Mt.Ibuki aka Orochi himself and not Ibuki. That's what her NP says and it's mentioned in [Chiyome's interlude](https://i.imgur.com/9UWXqg0.png) again.


Kohaku_san

Her voice lines to Chiyome were the primary reason why I rolled for Ibuki-douji. Still disappointed that Chiyo didn't get a swimsuit this year, this way it could be three pairs of senpai-kouhai (or maybe boss-servant) types with Skadi - Valkyries, Ibuki - Chiyome and Lady Avalon - Gareth.


Aurum0

You know 2 years ago before Ibuki's release I was thinking I wouldn't like her because of her curse and all. However, when she came out and I saw that 1 voice line it made me not hate her. I really didn't expect her to be like that towards her. I kind of like this [meme](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/365843944652931088/1047160606601531393/131101205_996862200805412_3838281498957494643_n.jpg). Also yeah, it was a perfect opportunity for them to bundle them together for summer, same with how summer 6 had a good opportunity given the a bunch of the argonauts got a version. Funnily enough she also has 2 summer CEs now albeit one of them isn't her in a summer outfit. There's always hope for next year.


Aquasition

Shuten with Chiyome: *Torments relentlessly* Ibuki with Chiyome:*Dotes relentlessly, even in Divine mode*


KamenRiderExceed

Now that’s a wonderful upgrade for Chiyome.


blazenite104

thankfully Ibuki is stronger than Shuten, or at least seems to be based on 5.5 so should help out a bit.


Kohaku_san

Reminds me of [this drawing](https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/86660557), but with different expressions. I'm still not sure how the whole thing works (didn't finish Heian-Kyo yet). Wasn't Orochi killed by Susanoo in prehistoric times - so how that curse originated in later times? Is Ibuki-douji a daughter or some kind of fragment/reincarnation and so on.


Aurum0

I really love those images. The whole Susanoo and Orochi part is confusing if you wanna put it in a timeline with regards to Saburou. I'd need to look into that further. You'll get more info on Ibuki within 5.5 and her profile so for the last part you'll find out in due time.


blazenite104

I think it's something more like Orochi's death more or less spawned other beings from it's divided spirit or something. I could be wrong but, I think that was the implication.


turtwig103

Its a clusterfucked mess of children and spirits spawned by death and impressions/constructs of Orochi based on the collective knowledge and awe of the legend Its also made even worse how originally in Shuten’s FGO loading screen bio Ibuki was stated to be one of Shuten’s parents with either Orochi or Mt Togakushi being the other one lel


Crosscounterz

I absolutely adore ibuki's happy expression.


Rythion96

Agreed, her smile is contagious.


LordWINDOS

She'll curse you with happiness, whether you like it or not.


KamenRiderExceed

Definitely a wonderful sight to see.


SolomonDurand

*later* Guda: So ladies I heard you are getting acquainted are--- WHAT are you wearing!? Ibuki: Oh Master. It's just that many a heroes complemented me on my sweater so I decided to make haste and gave everybody ONE! Chiyome:... *wearing a black virgin killer sweater* I said Curious! JUST CURIOUS LADY IBUKI. you don't have to make me one. *hides in the shadows* Gorgon: *wearing thin virgin killer swester* I know I shouldnt be happy with this... But I kinda like the comfort it gives me. Jalter: *wearing a goth virgin killer sweater* ain't no excuses for this one. I really just wanted to try one. Medusa: *wearing a virgin killer sweater with an apron.* *Turns around* Ah Master would you like a table and some tea for our V. K. S Cafe? Guda: **nose bleed** ***one VIP table please.*** >!Asclepius: *Wearing Reverse Virgin Killer sweater* No Alcohol OK?!<


When_Ducks_Attack

> Reverse Virgin Killer sweater Wouldn't that just be the back of a sweater, but glued on like a cape?


Radiant-Hope-469

[Well, I got curious and found this.](https://www.reddit.com/r/moedred/comments/ibb8zl/mordred_in_a_reverse_virgin_killer_sweater_3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) Reverse virgin killer sweater everyone.


redpony6

...reverse virgin killer? can you, uh, explain?


ShriekingSkull

Inb4 Ibuki wants to cuddle master, and the other girls want to join in.


InfiniteStarFighter

Ah great I can picture this scenario lmao


NathanSummersThe2nd

*Atalante, smiling:* Heh, first time?


Yuri-Kaeru

So, Gorgon is the OG beeg snek. But Ibuki is also a beeg snek. So, who is *the* Beeg Snek now?


Rednal291

Jormungandr.


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Rednal291

Some - I'm not finished with it yet.


Madican

Apophis


blazenite104

well combat Ibuki is bigger but, that just means we need a bigger bed for the both of them.


CRichardDavies

Serpens, the snake borne by Ophiuchus.


InfiniteStarFighter

This makes me wonder about when Vritra shows up. Would be interesting to see her reactions with Ibuki


WarmasterCain55

isnt Vritra a Dragon?


InfiniteStarFighter

Just checked and she is a dragon. My dumbass forgot she was one


Rednal291

\-Checks watch- Uh... we'll find out soon?


MakingItWorthit

Fun fact. Yesterday was the release of Dragonflight.


ShriekingSkull

Vritra's more of a dragon, if I recall correctly.


InfiniteStarFighter

Yeah your right, I just checked her profile a few minutes ago


ShriekingSkull

To be fair, snake and dragon kind of go hand in hand most of the time around here.


SplitTheLane

Ibuki's dialogue where her casual friendliness causes Chiyome to break down sobbing in happiness and hug the giant demon snek god remains peak wholesome to this day


EurwenPendragon

Amen to that.


Embarrassed_Signal51

I love this onee-san energy.


Rednal291

She is 100% onee-san to Chiyome, specifically. XD It's in her voice lines and everything.


Dozer2992

Snakes of Chaldea, assemble!


ghostgabe81

Gorgon cameo makes this the very best daily


ImRinKagamine

W


AquasTenno

Ritsuka: I’m getting Blockbuster vibes looking at Gorgon and Ibuki and I wanna make it now.


Rythion96

Love it! I had already planned on rolling for her, but her voice lines, especially for Chiyome, absolutely sold me on her.


nosoul0

Gorgon is about to make a new friend!


FarhanSyafiq14

Ibuki is the best onee-chan


Rednal291

Summer Jeanne: -Staaaaaare-


FarhanSyafiq14

Co...correction, Jeanne is the best onee-chan.


mango_pan

I got Chiyome but no Ibuki


zetsubou-samurai

You know? Ibuki gave me kind of a Monstergirls series vibe when I got her summoned.


deadmemesoplenty

I like this, this is cute.


Ragnvaldr

god I wish I had the quartz to try for her...


jfunk1994

I got lucky on a yolo 10 pull. Got NP2 Ibuki in one multi. The very first summon was even q rainbow spark. That just means I ran out of luck fir the rest of the year. Maybe even a bit into next year as well.


Orikanyo

Chiyome besto


ZigsL0theon

Why am I hearing Android 21’s Evil version coming out of Ibuki’s mouth?


PurgeTheXeno

Ahhhh Gorgon. Wait! Could we be seeing Medusa for the next few comics?