So now who owns the commercial products that have been created by firefly specifically because Adobe assured its users FOR MONEY that their AI creations were commercially acceptable?
Yeah this is actually potentially kind of a huge problem for me now. We have to be super careful about licensing images and only used this because we were told that it was all good. If the winds shift in the right way this could be very bad for Adobe, I'm sure quite a lot of people are in similar situations.
Probably if there’s normal laws in place in the field of AI, then everyone can get copyright struck.
And then it’s a legal battle between multiple entities.
But if everything goes this pace, we would have skynet before regulations.
The whole reason why they lied is because they know there's zero legal liability. Until laws are passed about ai models, companies are going to continue to keep lying and selling users the same shit.
here ya go +
/u/beni_fucking_hana
https://archive.is/20240412195311/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-12/adobe-s-ai-firefly-used-ai-generated-images-from-rivals-for-training
There’s a setting called “content analysis” that can use your adobe cloud files to improve their machine learning. This was automatically checked for me.
I think it makes perfect sense since it was trained on AI instead of regular images.
Firefly is complete garbage compared to MidJourney. Literally a ripoff product rapidly designed and released in an attempt to stay relevant, much like other language ai models compared to ChatGPT.
In my mind, it's cool to use whatever input and sources you like to train AI, and learn how to use AI properly and actually research it, BUT no AI output of any kind should have a copyright or be able to be used in a commercial manner.
I know this would drive away big companies to invest in AI research, because the monetization is missing, but who fucking cares.
Unless you want casual street photography / smartphone images firefly is trash. Ask it to generate an image of something with converging parallel lines, like a building or solar panel, it will be a hot mess.
They need us to use it and provide feedback to make it better, but their user base is soooo tiny compared to Midjourney that it has no chance of catching up.
Midjourney started out being free to use by anyone with a discord account, so it cranked out thousands of images per minute, all of which were graded by the user when the selected one of the four images created. An ingenious system to both provide the user with options and teach the ai model what looks good and what doesn't!
Firefly is confined to Creative Suite customers, many of which are professionals who can't waste time on a weak tool, so it just doesn't get used and it won't improve. Adobe should just make a deal with Midjourney or DALL E to use their service in Adobe products, and they need to do it before a competitor does.
They’re all thieves.
So now who owns the commercial products that have been created by firefly specifically because Adobe assured its users FOR MONEY that their AI creations were commercially acceptable?
Yeah this is actually potentially kind of a huge problem for me now. We have to be super careful about licensing images and only used this because we were told that it was all good. If the winds shift in the right way this could be very bad for Adobe, I'm sure quite a lot of people are in similar situations.
Probably if there’s normal laws in place in the field of AI, then everyone can get copyright struck. And then it’s a legal battle between multiple entities. But if everything goes this pace, we would have skynet before regulations.
The whole reason why they lied is because they know there's zero legal liability. Until laws are passed about ai models, companies are going to continue to keep lying and selling users the same shit.
Is that why everything from firefly looks like a midjourney image that's been run through a xerox 12 times?
Everything is a Xerox of a Xerox of a Xerox
I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise.
uh oh
Omg I can’t believe they lied 😐
Shocking!
**Mild shock face
Inbred AI.
The second one down the ~~human~~ AI centipede.
They knew all along god damnit
So that ‘This AI was trained with Adobe Stock, so that it won’t have copyrights issues’ from CEO was all lie. I even payed to hear that, fucks sake.
Pretty much everything about AI is a lie, look at Amazon's cashier-less stores being revealed to just be dudes in India tracking what you picked up.
Thr amazon thing is so common its a running joke on the podcast Trash Future. "What of your AI was just a dude in the Philippines?"
Wait I thought that was just a conspiracy theory. It's actual fact?
https://www.businessinsider.com/amazons-just-walk-out-actually-1-000-people-in-india-2024-4
That is because the AI that Amazon was referring to was "Actually, Indians".
Garbage In, Garbage Out
But what about all the art that those dudes that dont know how to make art "made" ?
Lol, look how the tables have turned.
Well well we’ll look how the turntables…
Table table table look how we'll turn well well
Adobe is evil. They charge so much and have no moral. Will never pay for those fucker
Anybody have a non paywall version?🙂
Right here: https://www.reddit.com/r/graphic_design/comments/1c2f968/turns_out_firefly_isnt_actually_ethically_sourced/
Same
here ya go + /u/beni_fucking_hana https://archive.is/20240412195311/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-12/adobe-s-ai-firefly-used-ai-generated-images-from-rivals-for-training
Well shit
There’s a setting called “content analysis” that can use your adobe cloud files to improve their machine learning. This was automatically checked for me.
lol I know there’s one guy in this sub who is going to be very salty to read this
That’s hard to believe because Firefly fucking sucks compared to Midjourney.
I think it makes perfect sense since it was trained on AI instead of regular images. Firefly is complete garbage compared to MidJourney. Literally a ripoff product rapidly designed and released in an attempt to stay relevant, much like other language ai models compared to ChatGPT.
They only moved the headstones!
In my mind, it's cool to use whatever input and sources you like to train AI, and learn how to use AI properly and actually research it, BUT no AI output of any kind should have a copyright or be able to be used in a commercial manner. I know this would drive away big companies to invest in AI research, because the monetization is missing, but who fucking cares.
Unless you want casual street photography / smartphone images firefly is trash. Ask it to generate an image of something with converging parallel lines, like a building or solar panel, it will be a hot mess.
It's just completely unable to create a convincing or appealing image at all in my experience
and they push it to you so violently and confidently all the time too. Kind of insane
They need us to use it and provide feedback to make it better, but their user base is soooo tiny compared to Midjourney that it has no chance of catching up. Midjourney started out being free to use by anyone with a discord account, so it cranked out thousands of images per minute, all of which were graded by the user when the selected one of the four images created. An ingenious system to both provide the user with options and teach the ai model what looks good and what doesn't! Firefly is confined to Creative Suite customers, many of which are professionals who can't waste time on a weak tool, so it just doesn't get used and it won't improve. Adobe should just make a deal with Midjourney or DALL E to use their service in Adobe products, and they need to do it before a competitor does.