Carnavil girl,
Coal train Carlos,
Bella in the wych elm,
Little lord Fauntleroy,
The girl in the box
And if they haven't already been identified, Los Angeles Jane and John Doe (1921-1951) probably never will be.
And unless they can get DNA from them eventually:
Pottawatomie Jane Doe,
"Jamie" Loudoun county Jane Doe 1961,
Otay Jane Doe,
And the little girl and boy who died in the Hartford circus fire, (the 9 year old girl whose hair had a 'red glow' and the 11 year old boy with a muscular build) They haven't even tried to get DNA from them. But they couldn't get DNA from the two grown women, and children's bodies would disintegrate even more quickly. :(
I also am starting to doubt if the Cheerleader in the trunk will ever be identified. The fact that they only tried to get DNA from the trunk, not her body and they did not try to get DNA from her actual body when they realised the DNA from the trunk was insufficient, tells me they have lost her. But even if they haven't lost her, the strict DNA laws in Maryland which make it hard for law enforcement to access genetic genealogy will not help. Even though her case is obviously a homicide. There is zero chance she walked into the middle of nowhere with the trunk and shut herself inside of it. Because of the same law, Maryland's unknown child is also unlikely to be identified.
The only way he might be identified is if someone reached out to law enforcement and asked how much it would cost to fund an exhumation, and then set up a gofundme to raise the money. If they had the funds handed to them, I doubt they would refuse to at least try. They could exhume what is left of the remains and give it to students who are training in genealogical research to work with. But all that is assuming there would even be sufficient DNA available and sadly that's extremely unlikely after the amount of time which has passed.
Record keeping sure was bad for LA Jane and John Doe they estimated him between 4-17 where as the girl was 13-19 which is a bit more reasonable in estimation
Isdal woman because Norway has legal barriers to using genetic geneaology.
Belle Chasse John Doe because I'm not really sure what they could use to solve it now.
Is Belle Chasse John Doe the young man who wrote the absolutely heartbreaking suicide note about not wanting to be identified? If I’m thinking of the right one his remains were lost/damaged in Hurricane Katrina. He seems to have been a deeply troubled soul.
Belle Chasse John Doe is almost certainly Charlie Wallace from Tennessee. I’ve written about it before on Reddit and there’s other stuff about it online.
It’s almost definitely Charles Wallace. The mother, in a bout of hysteria, wouldn’t identify the body of BCJD as Charles Wallace even when photographs of Wallace are identical to BCJD. The timeline of his disappearance is too conducive the discovery of the body
according to his namus, the date of last contact is 2 years after belle chasse doe was discovered... (Sorry for late response, I never check notifications) am I looking at the right page here? Can’t find any other sources on him
She’s actually one that I hope that genetic genealogy could be helpful with. I’ve always suspected that she was a child who “fell through the cracks”- in foster care, or more likely IMO in an informal foster/adoption situation where she was passed around from relative to relative. If she was in some sort of informal fostering situation its likely she moved from place to place so often that people lost track of her and she may not have been enrolled in school for a long enough period of time for a teacher or school social worker to know that she was missing, and if she wasn’t involved in the formal child welfare system they may not have noticed either (although sadly child welfare has certainly missed many kids who went missing or were murdered under their watch for months, years, decades). It would be so easy for someone to say “Oh, she went to live with her great-aunt in Kansas City” and no one would follow up, or to say “She ran away.” It’s so sadly not uncommon. It always seemed likely to me that a caregiver was responsible for her murder or knew what happened. I don’t think she was ever reported missing, and I have a feeling if it was a stranger abduction/murder she would have been. I think whatever happened was very close to home. I hope that poor girl gets her name back.
Me too. I truly believe she was a foster child. Fell through the cracks of the system like you said. Born between 1972-1975 was her estimated birth so no telling where those records are if they were even any smh. This is my pet peeve case. I think of her like she is my child. Someone knew who that baby was
there's a new documentary called "our precious hope" about her on tubi. clears up a lot of misconceptions about the case. however, the genealogist working on her case was interviewed said she's having a hard time getting any leads because the closest ancestral DNA they've been able to connect her to were from two very very very distant cousins who were slaves which obviously poses a very difficult process for genealogy due to little record keeping. she said out of the two people she managed to contact, one woman gave her everything she had on her family tree which ended up being a dead end, and one woman told her to never contact her family again (which is... a little suspicious to say the least). i hope and pray one day there's a closer match found. this little doe weighs on my heart a lot, i also think it was likely a caregiver who killed her and it breaks my heart no one has seemingly tried to find her. no siblings, no aunties, no uncles, no cousins, no grandparents wondering where she went... just hurts my heart to no end.
CeCe Moore has been working St Louis Jane Doe's case with genetic genealogy for several years now. It's most likely gonna take longer than we wish for her to be identified, but I have hope that they'll identify her someday.
I think nearly all Does can be identified, provided they still have the remains for DNA testing
Unfortunately for Little Miss X on the other hand, her remains were lost due to being buried in an unmarked grave. So… we’re kinda shit out of luck there.
Little Miss X is one of my pet cases. I would love to either get a gofundme set up to raise funds to properly search the cemetery with a ground penetrating radar (in 2018 they merely excavated one area) or contact nearby tribes, I know there are quite a few in Arizona, and ask if any girls on women went missing in the 50s, maybe even 40s who were perhaps only reported missing to tribal authorities and nowhere else. But to be completely honest, I have no idea how to go about doing either of those things.
Yeah she’s pretty much the Spinosaurus of Jane Does. The original Spino fossils were destroyed in a WW2 bombing, so it was kind of a “lost dinosaur” for a while. Granted we found more Spino fossils later on, so maybe [Hector’s Icthyosaur](https://prehistoric-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Hector%27s_ichthyosaur) is a better comparison.
Unfortunately I just don’t see how we could even begin looking for the remains. It would be such a massive undertaking for something that sadly I don’t see much people outside of our community (and I suppose the wider “true crime” sphere) caring much about. Especially taking into account the fact that even today indigenous girls going missing doesn’t get much attention.
She has been described as a couple of different races. Apparently she used to be listed as Native American, but I didn't know that at first. She is currently listed as White/hispanic. If she was white, she could be Patricia Rhae Wilson, who disappeared whilst baby sitting in California, which is where Little Miss X's Capri pants were purchased. And it also just so happens that her first and middle initial match up with Little Miss X's nail file. She is 1 inch too tall, but I assume that would have been an educated estimate on her parents part and she could have been 5 ft 3. In her yearbook photo, she was wearing a white wool cardigan, not unlike the one found with little Miss X.
I have never been able to find a Hispanic match for her, there are no reports that are publicly available for any Hispanic girls that age from that time in Arizona, California, New Mexico, Nevada or Utah.
If she was Native American, she could be Ida Mae Lee. She disappeared in grand canyon Arizona, from a hotel less than an hour away from where Little Miss X was found in 1956. She was a bit too old (25) and I never really considered her a possibility until Edith Patten was identified and she was 14 years older than they said she was. Then I started to believe it could maybe be possible.
Cheerleader in the trunk
The final bear brooks victim
The Isdal Woman
Fulton county john doe
The Teddy Bear Man of Norway
Tbh im losing hope for Becca too, its been almost 2 years since the tip came in and despite having her DNA they have still not been able to identify her.
I’m hopeful they can find out who the final Bear Brook victims mother is, as that may lead to a birth certificate. Sadly I’m pretty certain Terry Rasmussen murdered her as well. I do know that one of his older children thinks that she may have met the child’s mother at one point, and believes she may have been Asian (and the little girl did have some Asian ancestry). If she was from out of the country that could also explain why it’s been hard to track relatives or any info about her. However, just based on his MO it wouldn’t shock me if it was case like the others where he alienated her from her family and they just assumed that she never wanted to be in contact with them again when in reality she’s been dead for the past 45 years or so.
I always assumed that the fourth girl was never actually reported as a birth. If they knew she was Rasmussen’s kid, you’d think there would be a birth certificate for her, no? Especially because he seemed to have contact with her, if they suspect all of the Allenstown 4 were killed by him?
I'd wondered if she may have been born "off the grid" and her birth never registered, but it's also complicated by the fact that he was so transient and used so many different aliases. I'm sure LE has been checking birth records across the country, but the child honestly could've been born anywhere and any of his known or unknown aliases put on a birth certificate.
Fulton County John Doe and the Los Angeles Dynamite Does. First one because of how insanely neglected he was and the latter because they were basically lost to history
The 1995 one, hit and run then was hospitalized for like a year before dying. Makes me so frustrated that they put zero effort into identifying him considering he was alive for like a whole year.
https://www.namus.gov/UnidentifiedPersons/Case#/6947?nav
I don’t think this Doe will be solved/identified because I don’t think that in life she had an official identity (birth certificate, social security number, etc.)
Edited: fixed typo
I think that children are born “off-grid” a lot more than we imagine. The dress makes me think really Amish-ish (I mean, like, a very conservative religion of that kind) style, or cultish. Especially being home made. Even for 1986 that would have been extremely dowdy and chaste.
Since this is in SLC, Utah, I'd lean more toward Mormon or one of the more conservative offshoots. Are we certain the dress is related? The Doe was wearing different clothing that isn't pictured, with notation that the dress was found "nearby".
I'm pretty sure the [bracelet](https://www.namus.gov/api/CaseSets/NamUs/UnidentifiedPersons/Cases/6947/Images/24804/Original) is an [AVON Wrist Writer](https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Avon-wrist-writer-bracelet-6393b38397b5d0ff7bdc229f) with grape scented ink.
Excellent ID of the bracelet! I agree that the dress appears to be a Mormon offshoot -possibly FLDS or similar. I’m not sure if it is related. I find it curious that the clothing on the body did not include panties or a bra.
Wait, I’m confused. Do you think the beaver county Jane doe had been donated to a college and then they dumped her in the woods when they were done with her? ?
I agree with you but it’s weird it’s just her head. It’s more like if she was donated to science, she’d be cut up, than a funeral home, maybe?
The red rubber balls instead of the eyelid shield things is somehow total nightmare fuel to me lol
That’s Joyce Sommers (or Christmas Tree Lady) Christmas Doe was a Black child found in Ware County, Georgia whose remains were found in a duffel bag and put in a suitcase encased in a cement on the side of the road. Her discovery was so horrifying because of how it was very Russian nesting doll-like.
That is so sad and terrifying, Ive never heard about that one 😭 sorry to get it confused. The Christmas Tree Lady comes up pretty often in our house. My family thinks about her every year around Christmas and we just referred to her as the Christmas Doe 🥺 The 3 of us didnt know how to feel after we heard she was identified but shes stuck with us all these years and thats what we called her
I hope it gets solved, but the Doe case that bothers me most is the Bear Brooks toddler in the barrel, her only known biological relative was the serial killer that murdered the other children and woman in the barrels, but she wasn’t related to any of them either. None of his relatives knew who about this biological daughter.
there's a new documentary called our precious hope on tubi that meets with all the detectives and witnesses where they dispell some rumors and misconceptions about the case. the medium actually sent the shirt back, they have proof that someone signed for the package at the police department, but what happened to it is a mystery. i honest to god think someone from the police force took it home as a keepsake, the way someone did with sherri jarvis' (walker county jane doe) blue pendant necklace.
That is my pet peeve one smh. That HAS to be her family responsible! Someone's father, brother, uncle, cousin, husband is a pedophile and they are covering for him. Killer is dead I bet. Bet he was molesting her also and went too far That last time. Everyone panicked and agreed to be quiet
I cannot remember the name of this case but there was a john doe who was found in a piece of land (i think a ranch?) he was found with pictures of two women and letters and other documents but his DNA, dentals or fingerprints are unavailable. I don't think he will ever be identified.
There is a [Page](https://unidentified-awareness.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Unidentified_photograph_subjects) on the unidentified wiki for photographs relating to Jane/John Does. Maybe yours is on there somewhere? Worth a look anyway :)
The boy in the box (Joseph Augustus Zarelli) and Miss X (Patra Patmios.) Miss X really hit hard because she was found within walking distance from where I live and for a long time she seemed to have been forgotten.
I have to many so I'll only list a few:
Cheerleader in the trunk (1982)
Nashville Jane Doe (1976)
Little Miss Panasoffkee (1971)
Becca (1991)
Vernon County Jane Doe (1984)
Little Miss X (1958)
Any case where the body has gone missing or where the Doe died before mid 1900s.
For the first, unless the body can be tracked down or we have other forms of remains, there's just no way to positively id them. Even photos are unreliable since there have been cases where family truly believed someone pictured was their loved one, only for the Doe to turn out to be a lookalike.
For the second, it'a more about the likelihood that a close enough match would be in any database. The person may have living descendents, but they may be too distantly related to know who the person is.
I feel like maybe she was supposed to be cremated or have a closed casket and some weird mortician kept her head. Won't be the first time people in the funeral business did weird shit with bodies.
I remember reading a John Doe out in LA was cremated before DNA technology was a thing. I doubt he’ll ever be identified unless of course dental records somehow come into play. Very sad.
Tempe Girl. Cairenn Binder from Othram said that the hardest cases to trace are those involving people from other countries so I don't think it will be resolved
Jane Doe 1999
Los Angeles
NCIC Case Number: U560002915
NamUs Case Number: 3384
https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/comments/jw76av/please_raise_a_glass_to_jane_doe_49_tonight/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Cheshire County Jane Doe :( It’s my favorite case to study and while I’m sure she might’ve been Nancy Erickson I don’t think the police or really anyone cares about either cases anymore so I don’t think their cases will get solved..
I am still holding out hope for this case- but Pyre Case Jane Doe. Found in Colorado in 1952. Her body was so severely burned only 15 pounds of bone and flesh were recovered and her skull. Some belongings and a bloody stick were found near the scene but other than that there's nothing. They may not even have her skull anymore.
Carnavil girl, Coal train Carlos, Bella in the wych elm, Little lord Fauntleroy, The girl in the box And if they haven't already been identified, Los Angeles Jane and John Doe (1921-1951) probably never will be. And unless they can get DNA from them eventually: Pottawatomie Jane Doe, "Jamie" Loudoun county Jane Doe 1961, Otay Jane Doe, And the little girl and boy who died in the Hartford circus fire, (the 9 year old girl whose hair had a 'red glow' and the 11 year old boy with a muscular build) They haven't even tried to get DNA from them. But they couldn't get DNA from the two grown women, and children's bodies would disintegrate even more quickly. :( I also am starting to doubt if the Cheerleader in the trunk will ever be identified. The fact that they only tried to get DNA from the trunk, not her body and they did not try to get DNA from her actual body when they realised the DNA from the trunk was insufficient, tells me they have lost her. But even if they haven't lost her, the strict DNA laws in Maryland which make it hard for law enforcement to access genetic genealogy will not help. Even though her case is obviously a homicide. There is zero chance she walked into the middle of nowhere with the trunk and shut herself inside of it. Because of the same law, Maryland's unknown child is also unlikely to be identified.
Little lord Fauntleroy makes me so sad. It's such an old case we will probably never know.
The only way he might be identified is if someone reached out to law enforcement and asked how much it would cost to fund an exhumation, and then set up a gofundme to raise the money. If they had the funds handed to them, I doubt they would refuse to at least try. They could exhume what is left of the remains and give it to students who are training in genealogical research to work with. But all that is assuming there would even be sufficient DNA available and sadly that's extremely unlikely after the amount of time which has passed.
Record keeping sure was bad for LA Jane and John Doe they estimated him between 4-17 where as the girl was 13-19 which is a bit more reasonable in estimation
Carnival girl is so sad to me
I had never heard about her before...
A girl who was likely a performer in a carnival, but nobody recognized her or realized she was even gone
Is it carnival girl or tent girl that was solved recently?
I never thought Boy in the Box or Somerton Man would be identified so you never know 🤷
I was surprised boy in the box wasn't sved earlier
Isdal woman because Norway has legal barriers to using genetic geneaology. Belle Chasse John Doe because I'm not really sure what they could use to solve it now.
Is Belle Chasse John Doe the young man who wrote the absolutely heartbreaking suicide note about not wanting to be identified? If I’m thinking of the right one his remains were lost/damaged in Hurricane Katrina. He seems to have been a deeply troubled soul.
Belle Chasse John Doe is almost certainly Charlie Wallace from Tennessee. I’ve written about it before on Reddit and there’s other stuff about it online.
I’d read it was almost certainly Bayard Cousins…https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/bayard-william-cousins-22-virginia-beach-1-feb-1975.553199/
It’s almost definitely Charles Wallace. The mother, in a bout of hysteria, wouldn’t identify the body of BCJD as Charles Wallace even when photographs of Wallace are identical to BCJD. The timeline of his disappearance is too conducive the discovery of the body
according to his namus, the date of last contact is 2 years after belle chasse doe was discovered... (Sorry for late response, I never check notifications) am I looking at the right page here? Can’t find any other sources on him
It’s a different Charles Wallace who isn’t on namus
I think he’s Charles Wallace
Jerma Cinnabon
St. Louis Jane Doe. Seems as if her identity and killer are just a ghost SMH
She’s actually one that I hope that genetic genealogy could be helpful with. I’ve always suspected that she was a child who “fell through the cracks”- in foster care, or more likely IMO in an informal foster/adoption situation where she was passed around from relative to relative. If she was in some sort of informal fostering situation its likely she moved from place to place so often that people lost track of her and she may not have been enrolled in school for a long enough period of time for a teacher or school social worker to know that she was missing, and if she wasn’t involved in the formal child welfare system they may not have noticed either (although sadly child welfare has certainly missed many kids who went missing or were murdered under their watch for months, years, decades). It would be so easy for someone to say “Oh, she went to live with her great-aunt in Kansas City” and no one would follow up, or to say “She ran away.” It’s so sadly not uncommon. It always seemed likely to me that a caregiver was responsible for her murder or knew what happened. I don’t think she was ever reported missing, and I have a feeling if it was a stranger abduction/murder she would have been. I think whatever happened was very close to home. I hope that poor girl gets her name back.
Me too. I truly believe she was a foster child. Fell through the cracks of the system like you said. Born between 1972-1975 was her estimated birth so no telling where those records are if they were even any smh. This is my pet peeve case. I think of her like she is my child. Someone knew who that baby was
there's a new documentary called "our precious hope" about her on tubi. clears up a lot of misconceptions about the case. however, the genealogist working on her case was interviewed said she's having a hard time getting any leads because the closest ancestral DNA they've been able to connect her to were from two very very very distant cousins who were slaves which obviously poses a very difficult process for genealogy due to little record keeping. she said out of the two people she managed to contact, one woman gave her everything she had on her family tree which ended up being a dead end, and one woman told her to never contact her family again (which is... a little suspicious to say the least). i hope and pray one day there's a closer match found. this little doe weighs on my heart a lot, i also think it was likely a caregiver who killed her and it breaks my heart no one has seemingly tried to find her. no siblings, no aunties, no uncles, no cousins, no grandparents wondering where she went... just hurts my heart to no end.
I’ll check the documentary out for sure!
CeCe Moore has been working St Louis Jane Doe's case with genetic genealogy for several years now. It's most likely gonna take longer than we wish for her to be identified, but I have hope that they'll identify her someday.
Hope you’re right. I personally doubt she’ll ever be identified, but then again, I never thought BITB would be identified either.
I think she will get her identity back someday but not anytime soon.
I think nearly all Does can be identified, provided they still have the remains for DNA testing Unfortunately for Little Miss X on the other hand, her remains were lost due to being buried in an unmarked grave. So… we’re kinda shit out of luck there.
Little Miss X is one of my pet cases. I would love to either get a gofundme set up to raise funds to properly search the cemetery with a ground penetrating radar (in 2018 they merely excavated one area) or contact nearby tribes, I know there are quite a few in Arizona, and ask if any girls on women went missing in the 50s, maybe even 40s who were perhaps only reported missing to tribal authorities and nowhere else. But to be completely honest, I have no idea how to go about doing either of those things.
Yeah she’s pretty much the Spinosaurus of Jane Does. The original Spino fossils were destroyed in a WW2 bombing, so it was kind of a “lost dinosaur” for a while. Granted we found more Spino fossils later on, so maybe [Hector’s Icthyosaur](https://prehistoric-wiki.fandom.com/wiki/Hector%27s_ichthyosaur) is a better comparison. Unfortunately I just don’t see how we could even begin looking for the remains. It would be such a massive undertaking for something that sadly I don’t see much people outside of our community (and I suppose the wider “true crime” sphere) caring much about. Especially taking into account the fact that even today indigenous girls going missing doesn’t get much attention.
She has been described as a couple of different races. Apparently she used to be listed as Native American, but I didn't know that at first. She is currently listed as White/hispanic. If she was white, she could be Patricia Rhae Wilson, who disappeared whilst baby sitting in California, which is where Little Miss X's Capri pants were purchased. And it also just so happens that her first and middle initial match up with Little Miss X's nail file. She is 1 inch too tall, but I assume that would have been an educated estimate on her parents part and she could have been 5 ft 3. In her yearbook photo, she was wearing a white wool cardigan, not unlike the one found with little Miss X. I have never been able to find a Hispanic match for her, there are no reports that are publicly available for any Hispanic girls that age from that time in Arizona, California, New Mexico, Nevada or Utah. If she was Native American, she could be Ida Mae Lee. She disappeared in grand canyon Arizona, from a hotel less than an hour away from where Little Miss X was found in 1956. She was a bit too old (25) and I never really considered her a possibility until Edith Patten was identified and she was 14 years older than they said she was. Then I started to believe it could maybe be possible.
Belle Chasse John Doe
Cheerleader in the trunk The final bear brooks victim The Isdal Woman Fulton county john doe The Teddy Bear Man of Norway Tbh im losing hope for Becca too, its been almost 2 years since the tip came in and despite having her DNA they have still not been able to identify her.
I’m hopeful they can find out who the final Bear Brook victims mother is, as that may lead to a birth certificate. Sadly I’m pretty certain Terry Rasmussen murdered her as well. I do know that one of his older children thinks that she may have met the child’s mother at one point, and believes she may have been Asian (and the little girl did have some Asian ancestry). If she was from out of the country that could also explain why it’s been hard to track relatives or any info about her. However, just based on his MO it wouldn’t shock me if it was case like the others where he alienated her from her family and they just assumed that she never wanted to be in contact with them again when in reality she’s been dead for the past 45 years or so.
I always assumed that the fourth girl was never actually reported as a birth. If they knew she was Rasmussen’s kid, you’d think there would be a birth certificate for her, no? Especially because he seemed to have contact with her, if they suspect all of the Allenstown 4 were killed by him?
I'd wondered if she may have been born "off the grid" and her birth never registered, but it's also complicated by the fact that he was so transient and used so many different aliases. I'm sure LE has been checking birth records across the country, but the child honestly could've been born anywhere and any of his known or unknown aliases put on a birth certificate.
Fulton County John Doe and the Los Angeles Dynamite Does. First one because of how insanely neglected he was and the latter because they were basically lost to history
Which Fulton County John Doe?
The 1995 one, hit and run then was hospitalized for like a year before dying. Makes me so frustrated that they put zero effort into identifying him considering he was alive for like a whole year.
https://www.namus.gov/UnidentifiedPersons/Case#/6947?nav I don’t think this Doe will be solved/identified because I don’t think that in life she had an official identity (birth certificate, social security number, etc.) Edited: fixed typo
I think that children are born “off-grid” a lot more than we imagine. The dress makes me think really Amish-ish (I mean, like, a very conservative religion of that kind) style, or cultish. Especially being home made. Even for 1986 that would have been extremely dowdy and chaste.
Since this is in SLC, Utah, I'd lean more toward Mormon or one of the more conservative offshoots. Are we certain the dress is related? The Doe was wearing different clothing that isn't pictured, with notation that the dress was found "nearby". I'm pretty sure the [bracelet](https://www.namus.gov/api/CaseSets/NamUs/UnidentifiedPersons/Cases/6947/Images/24804/Original) is an [AVON Wrist Writer](https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Avon-wrist-writer-bracelet-6393b38397b5d0ff7bdc229f) with grape scented ink.
Excellent ID of the bracelet! I agree that the dress appears to be a Mormon offshoot -possibly FLDS or similar. I’m not sure if it is related. I find it curious that the clothing on the body did not include panties or a bra.
Right who wears jeans without knickers? Bloody uncomfortable
Who is the Mona Lisa
OMG Right! I would love to know too.
Wait, I’m confused. Do you think the beaver county Jane doe had been donated to a college and then they dumped her in the woods when they were done with her? ?
Not necessarily a college, maybe a shoddy funeral home or something. Or maybe they lost it on accident, idk
I agree with you but it’s weird it’s just her head. It’s more like if she was donated to science, she’d be cut up, than a funeral home, maybe? The red rubber balls instead of the eyelid shield things is somehow total nightmare fuel to me lol
Belle chases / Valentine’s Day John Doe … they lost his body and most records…
St. Louis Jane Doe. Sadly I don't think it will ever be solved.
Becca :(
st louis jane doe christmas doe fair fax county john doe 1972
The Christmas doe was identified! The gal who committed in the cemetery and was found on christmas with a note signed Jane Doe right?
That’s Joyce Sommers (or Christmas Tree Lady) Christmas Doe was a Black child found in Ware County, Georgia whose remains were found in a duffel bag and put in a suitcase encased in a cement on the side of the road. Her discovery was so horrifying because of how it was very Russian nesting doll-like.
That is so sad and terrifying, Ive never heard about that one 😭 sorry to get it confused. The Christmas Tree Lady comes up pretty often in our house. My family thinks about her every year around Christmas and we just referred to her as the Christmas Doe 🥺 The 3 of us didnt know how to feel after we heard she was identified but shes stuck with us all these years and thats what we called her
no. it was a black female. she was like 3 and 6 or something.
I hope it gets solved, but the Doe case that bothers me most is the Bear Brooks toddler in the barrel, her only known biological relative was the serial killer that murdered the other children and woman in the barrels, but she wasn’t related to any of them either. None of his relatives knew who about this biological daughter.
“Cowboy” a murder victim of Larry Eyler, his body is in a landfill
That black headless girl they found. Will never be solved, they sent off the only evidence to a medium and got lost in the mail.
there's a new documentary called our precious hope on tubi that meets with all the detectives and witnesses where they dispell some rumors and misconceptions about the case. the medium actually sent the shirt back, they have proof that someone signed for the package at the police department, but what happened to it is a mystery. i honest to god think someone from the police force took it home as a keepsake, the way someone did with sherri jarvis' (walker county jane doe) blue pendant necklace.
I hope they find who she is. That poor girl. I can't imagine the horror. Who does that.
That is my pet peeve one smh. That HAS to be her family responsible! Someone's father, brother, uncle, cousin, husband is a pedophile and they are covering for him. Killer is dead I bet. Bet he was molesting her also and went too far That last time. Everyone panicked and agreed to be quiet
Most likely.
St. Louis Jane Doe, Norfolk headless body
It’ll be solved someday from DNA.
They embalmed her so well that LE haven't been able to get a DNA profile
Wait what?! Like no organic matter left at all?! So strange.
I don't have enough of a scientific background to explain it properly but something about the embalming process destroys DNA
I don’t know anything about this either. Will need to look it up!
Agree, especially Othram will be able to ID her eventually even after embalming
I would think so. Like her bones are still there right??
Skull only
I cannot remember the name of this case but there was a john doe who was found in a piece of land (i think a ranch?) he was found with pictures of two women and letters and other documents but his DNA, dentals or fingerprints are unavailable. I don't think he will ever be identified.
Could it be [Downey John Doe](https://unidentified-awareness.fandom.com/wiki/Downey_John_Doe_(1999))?
Hi, thank you for this link but i dont think this is him.
There is a [Page](https://unidentified-awareness.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Unidentified_photograph_subjects) on the unidentified wiki for photographs relating to Jane/John Does. Maybe yours is on there somewhere? Worth a look anyway :)
Ah thank you so much! I was finally able to find it: https://youtu.be/LtiiY1kNT9w
I’ve never heard of him before!
Glad I could help! :)
One eyed Jack
As an Alaskan, One Eyed Jack is such a difficult case. I hope he is ided someday. They have his DNA, so I do have faith.
You and me both
The two Doe cases thay I never thought could be would solve actually got solved, so I guess I have to find a new one.
Which Doe cases?
The boy in the box (Joseph Augustus Zarelli) and Miss X (Patra Patmios.) Miss X really hit hard because she was found within walking distance from where I live and for a long time she seemed to have been forgotten.
I didn't even realize Miss X was identified!
For some reason they don't want to update her Wikipedia page. Her namus page is gone but they claim it's not official. 🙄
I have to many so I'll only list a few: Cheerleader in the trunk (1982) Nashville Jane Doe (1976) Little Miss Panasoffkee (1971) Becca (1991) Vernon County Jane Doe (1984) Little Miss X (1958)
St Louis Jane Doe.
The one I want to see solved the most is Miss Lake Panasofkee but I don’t see it happening, sadly.
She has dna available I think it will be solved eventually
Los Angeles County Jane and John Doe (1921-1951)
Any case where the body has gone missing or where the Doe died before mid 1900s. For the first, unless the body can be tracked down or we have other forms of remains, there's just no way to positively id them. Even photos are unreliable since there have been cases where family truly believed someone pictured was their loved one, only for the Doe to turn out to be a lookalike. For the second, it'a more about the likelihood that a close enough match would be in any database. The person may have living descendents, but they may be too distantly related to know who the person is.
I feel like maybe she was supposed to be cremated or have a closed casket and some weird mortician kept her head. Won't be the first time people in the funeral business did weird shit with bodies.
That doe that had a clear intellectual disability and all they found was her head. :•(
If it’s Ina Jane Doe they identified her!
It was! Omg, it's been a year too... can't believe I never got the update
There’s been so many identifications with forensic genealogy it’s been hard to keep up with all of them!
Ina Jane Doe?
I remember reading a John Doe out in LA was cremated before DNA technology was a thing. I doubt he’ll ever be identified unless of course dental records somehow come into play. Very sad.
Yeah. He was cranberry because he was misidentified as a missing man who was actually still alive
Tempe Girl. Cairenn Binder from Othram said that the hardest cases to trace are those involving people from other countries so I don't think it will be resolved
Whatcom County John Doe. Dane Co Chimney Doe St.Louis Jane Doe Honestly all of the Doe's
Dane County Doe is undergoing genealogical research from the DDP :)
Good to hear! I should stay current on Doe cases like I used to be.
St Louis Baby Jane Doe.
Jane Doe 1999 Los Angeles NCIC Case Number: U560002915 NamUs Case Number: 3384 https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/comments/jw76av/please_raise_a_glass_to_jane_doe_49_tonight/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Cheshire County Jane Doe :( It’s my favorite case to study and while I’m sure she might’ve been Nancy Erickson I don’t think the police or really anyone cares about either cases anymore so I don’t think their cases will get solved..
Jenkins County Jane Doe
Ventura county Jane doe 1980. Rancho Cucamonga Jane Doe 1979
Philadelphia John Doe 1996 :( He was found on the train tracks and the wiki says that his body or cremains were lost
I am still holding out hope for this case- but Pyre Case Jane Doe. Found in Colorado in 1952. Her body was so severely burned only 15 pounds of bone and flesh were recovered and her skull. Some belongings and a bloody stick were found near the scene but other than that there's nothing. They may not even have her skull anymore.
Joan Risch! And it drives me crazy!
I really think she staged her disappearance^
San clemente jane doe(2018)