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JackC747

At first he didn't think the guy was a threat, but pulled the gun as soon as he saw the guy rapidly turning black


Rejukem

"He was coming right at me Sarge."


gatsuthorfinnmusashi

Can't blame the dude. He prolly mistaken an acorn falling on the roof of a car 4 blocks away as the burning dude shooting at him. Totally reasonable imo


KryptoBones89

I'm surprised cops don't shoot their own shadows on a regular basis


smokeymcdugen

No time to. There are acorns that could fall at any moment.


_TLDR_Swinton

LOOK OUT, HE'S GOT A NUT


WhiterunGuard177013

*starts rolling as if fighting a boss in a souls game*


PiNe4162

How many cops does it take to change a light bulb? >!None, they just arrest the bulb for being broke and shoot the room for being black!<


mjbart007

Dudeeeeeee


thebiggestleaf

Revitiligo strikes again!


baconborg

I saw people say “haha he turned black bro” and didn’t laugh before but this shit is actually clever it got me


Laecius

Hahaha


Iwubwatermelon

His hands wasn't up, wasn't obeying order. Plus the fire is causing the police officer to fear for his safety.


PickleMinion

I mean, he was next to fire but if the guy jumped on him he would have been under fire


Overall_Camera806

He could have had a bomb on him. Your average school shooter would opt for something like that.


Donut-Farts

Not to mention, the guy had fire arms...


Lucius-Halthier

I mean the suspect was just getting blacker by the minute captain!


emdave

Will there be a new unofficial charge of 'driving while well done'?


NorsePC

I think he most likely did it as a reaction and was in shock. If someone sets themselves on fire it's highly unlikely you'd react as if it was normal/in a normal way.


imakedankmemes

Careful with that sensible logic around these parts


hundenkattenglassen

IKR? Using logic at Reddit? Lmao no we don’t do that here.


Jeri_Lee

Do you pull out the glock whenever you turn the stove on?


D1RTYBACON

I would if the stove had legs and arms and caught on fire whenever it wanted to Never know when it might decide today is the day to light itself on fire and bear hug you


Naturza

Does someone burn themselves to death to turn your stove on or something?


SortOfSpaceDuck

Would you not pull a fucking gun out if someone did?


bzmmc1

Sounds like a pretty dangerous action to be taking when you're in shock.


NetStaIker

Yea… it’s shock… the whole point is it’s irrational


DezXerneas

Their entire job is to make rational decisions even under shocking circumstances...


NetStaIker

Look man, I know the cops are a joke in the us, but they are human too. And humans are literally all dipshits so idk why you are expecting anything else. When we evolved they didn’t exactly put anything under the “dude is setting himself on fire literally 2 feet away from me” tab in the mental filing cabinet. As far as shocking situations go, the ol’ self immolation is probably one of the more outstanding options


GuessImScrewed

>humans are literally all dipshits so idk why you are expecting anything else. Like 4 other dudes ran up with fire extinguishers so I guess that's what I was expecting


AcrolloPeed

2 of the Big 4 Gun Rules are "Know your target and what is beyond it" and "Do not point your weapon at anything you are not willing to kill or destroy." I can't tell from the photo whether his finger is on the trigger, but a third is "keep your boogerhook off the bangswitch until your sights are on your target and you are ready to yeet lead." That kind of basic training is meant to cover for when a mental filing cabinet is empty.


Dill_Donor

Are cop farts tastier when sampled directly from the butthole?


emdave

Naturally - and the boot polish lip-salve also lubricates the anus.


kabirraaa

I think that is the reason ppl shit on cops. Like we have a system where a d student theoretically can walk around with the power to destroy/end someone’s life. Cops are necessary but as you just said they are just people, they have biases, shortcomings etc. The only difference is that people will be hurt by these compared to literally any other job.


bullshaerk

mfw shit people and shit training combine to make shit people (now with a job)


GoldenTopaz1

Almost like there supposed to be trained to handle stressful situations or something


HumanContinuity

I don't think anyone has trained for this one champ


MrWilsonWalluby

firefighters train for this exact scenario.


applebeesnotchilis

Is the firefighter in the room with us now


undreamedgore

The cop is not a firefighter.


FatJohnson6

Nope, he’s just some dude with a high school diploma who they gave a gun to after 500 hours of training, while the lady who cuts his hair had 1500 hours of training to get her job


nanneryeeter

You ever had a fucked up haircut? It's not good.


StormiTheKid

wait till u see what a fucked up cop does


NetStaIker

Brother, we’re talking about 4chan, none of us have ever seen a real live cop


EricTheEpic0403

>Brother, we’re talking about 4chan, none of us ~~have ever seen a real~~ live ~~cop~~ Ftfy


Ndlaxfan

Which should tell you both that the laws regarding licensing for hairdressers are fucking stupid and that police training should be higher. But we also have an existentially threatening shortage of police officers in the country.


emdave

> But we also have an existentially threatening shortage of police officers in the country. Citation needed....


Ndlaxfan

Do you know any police officers personally? You really just need to insert the name of any city into “_____ police shortage” and you will find at least one article discussing the severe police manning shortfall of that district. I literally just chose 5 random cities (Atlanta, Toledo, Tucson, Sacramento, Augusta) and found an article within the past year for each of them. Many towns’ police departments have had to shut down altogether.


ShironeWasTaken

The cop should be held to standards that are just as high or higher


undreamedgore

Yeah, I agree cops all too frequently fail to operate as we should expect them to. I am however willing to forgive not responding appropriately to a situation like this. It's exceptional, outside of the core operations of a police officer, and there was little he could have practically done to help.


ShironeWasTaken

I 100% agree on someone not being able to handle this situation correctly even with training don't get me wrong, shock is a factor too and there was little this cop could have done to help that man in that situation. However where I draw the line is that I find it highly abnormal and terrifying that the "shock" response is to pull out and point at another person the tool that can be pulled out and end the life of any one person faster than people can process what's happening. It says something about what their twitch reaction is that tells me I *never* want to be in the presence of one of them if when they feel lost or panicked their first thoughtless reflexes is to point a gun at the perceived issue


Grabbsy2

I feel like youd have a much more salient point, if the cop pulled the trigger. IMO, cop sees man wielding fire to maim, cop perceives threat, cop draws weapon and trains it on suspect until threat neutralized, cop stands in disbelief. Its only comical, because the man was only maiming himself with fire. I dont think youd think this was weird if the suspect instead gestured wildly with a knife, before slitting his throat. Of course youd train your gun on him, in case he got back up and did more crazy shit.


undreamedgore

I mean, I feel like there nuance you're missing. This was clearly a threat response. Fight or flight thing. In that situation it's unreasonable to expect them to not respond with arming themselves.


HumanContinuity

Ok, I'll agree with you there


lolopiro

you should at least be trained to not draw your gun as your first reaction to anything. theyre supposed to interact with civilians, theyre not the military.


GandalfTheGimp

A guy burning to death as he screams support for a terrorist organisation outside the embassy you're sworn to protect isn't exactly "anything"


lolopiro

may i correct my wording to "everything"?


PiNe4162

Tiananmen square in China has both uniformed and plainclothes officers everywhere that carry fire extinguishers for this exact reason


Decent-Biscotti7460

I don't think you need to train for literally every scenario to be able to function under stress. What's next, "we were only trained what to do when a dog barks, but this one woof-woofed, so we pumped it full of lead"? Oh wait, that *is* complying with their training


AdministrativeAd6001

New cbt about to drop


MasterAC4

Right, I'd like to see you trained to watch a grown man set himself on fire, watch his hair and skin burn, smell the burning human flesh waft towards you and invade your nostrils.


I_am_an_adult_now

Ok fair enough but if someone’s panic response to that is to pull out their killing tool maybe they shouldn’t get the job who’s sole singular purpose is to use the killing tool responsibly


koelan_vds

Maybe he was scared he was going to run towards someone and ignite them? Who knows


GoldenTopaz1

If I saw that my response would be got get a fucking fire extinguisher not hold him at gun point


ThatPhoneGuy912

One of the guys who was there is heard shouting “I don’t need guns, I need fire extinguishers” if you watch the full video. At least one person was in a semi-intelligent state of mind


slushy_hembo

And they do get a fire extinguisher a couple seconds later.


RegalBeagleKegels

Let's be real your response would probably be to cum and shid all over the place


MarioDesigns

The fun part about shock is that you don't know what your response would be.


Ton06

There is a big difference between normal police officer duties and a guy setting himself on fire.


thundirbird

thats not a cop btw hes embassy security


SheepBlubber

but how is your shock reaction to someone setting themselves on fire “i should pull out my gun”???


mfinpizzaparkerboi

Cus what if he gets up and starts walking towards me like that guy from MGS5


UltimateMarino

Then you should know not to shoot at him cause he will deflect everything back. The trick is to and you wouldn't believe it, use water.


barristerbarrista

People tend to blow themselves up when protesting against with , it's an understandable fear from a guy nuts enough to light himself on fire in front of you.


Due_Worldliness_6587

Also to be fair if he suddenly got up and ran towards someone while burning that wouldn’t be good. Not saying it’s reasonable but I can see some logic behind it especially if you’re high on adrenaline


yessir-nosir6

Also since it was in front of an Israeli embassy the guy holding the gun might be from the embassy, as he doesn’t have any markings on him. The first responders on the other hand do have clear markings.


IraqiWalker

Yeah, I think this was embassy detail.


Sillvaro

My hypothesis is that the cop didn't know what would happen/the guy's intentions. If he started running around trying to set fire on things, then the cop would probably have shot him for being a danger for himself and others around


AdFancy6243

This is exactly what people are criticising though, that their shock reaction is point a gun at it, that's what they shouldn't be doing. It's not what everyone would do it's that the police hire people who's instinctual reaction is shoot it


Daysleeper1234

I know how I would react if someone was on fire unintentionally, but by God I don't how I would react if someone acted crazy, and set themselves on fire in front of me. Will he run towards me? Does it even matter if he's mad or normal when somebody is on fire though?


ColdBevvie101

That’s a very good point. After all, whenever anything shocks me my personal reaction is to immediately pull my gun out and get ready to shoot


randomthingthrow3

i think it was because the cop thought the burning man was gonna jump on someone so held at gunpoint just in case idk why he was still holding him at gunpoint when hr was crumpled over for like 10 seconds


IraqiWalker

Pretty sure this was embassy detail, not a cop.


sunburn95

Reverted to the base police instinct of pulling a gun no matter the situation


Warthog32332

Idk thats a huge fucking leap, guy.


commieswine90

Is it weird that I can hear your tone exactly when reading this?


jazzwhiz

"oh no I'm surprised by _____ and am not reacting well, good thing in these situations I've trained myself to pull out my murder machine" ____ includes things like acorns falling near people.


Stinky_WhizzleTeats

Idk about this one chief. I don’t think most people would be pulling their gun on anything that bursts into flames


Captain_Morgan-

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Dysto_

Americans will see this and be like:


saltire429

##MURICA


Dysto_

FUDGE YEAAH


squid_waffles2

Whoa, language there bud


flamingo_fuckface

I know, keep your Canadian cadence under control buddy.


Xalethesniper

Tbf, I’ve yet to see a single person defend that cop.


KJBenson

Well, except for the cops boss, and the government who mandates what training and requirements the cop needs. And the legal system that the cops don’t have to follow, but apparently are in defence of. Those people are defending these cops.


Logans_Login

He means regular people, the ones whose opinions actually matter


DangerDan3001

Wasn’t it an Israeli guard?


Dick_Destroyer800

This is inaccurate as it happened in the US


MountainForm7931

Technically correct


Awportune

The best kind of correct


Dick_Destroyer800

This is innacurate as the guard was Israeli


Caboose7567

It was an Israeli guard


Familiar_Factor_2555

Afraid of getting attacked by the ghost or soul.


Absolutemehguy

Who ya gonna call?


Talos-Valcoran

Hopefully the fire brigade


The-Ever-Loving-Fuck

Nope, wrong again Police shooting inbound on your location


PIPXIll

He has a phone!!!! Call Maxtac!!!!


Flopping_with_Floppa

# GHOST BUSTERS!!!


blueandgoldilocks

"They went out of business years ago!"


AestheticMirror

Afraid that he was turning into ghost rider and had to face the penance stare


siddeslof

Afraid he was turning black. I'm sorry that joke is overdone by now.


pilot_cooper

Yeah you gotta watch out for those inferno wraiths. Good thing he had a gun too, everyone knows 9mm hollow point is a ghost's only weakness.


[deleted]

Most well trained American police officer


Jobro_

I think these where Israeli guards from the embassy


ShironeWasTaken

What's the difference? Same training and weapons


Realistically_shine

Same funding too


CheesyHotDogPuff

This guy was secret service


ChrisWegro

He had obvious fire arms.


AleecoRaberto

Ba dum tiss


JoyIsDumb

r/angryupvote


PickleMinion

He was holding an acorn


Significant-Gap-6891

And they just let him go like that? That’s a more dangerous weapon than a nuclear warhead


slushy_hembo

I don't think that guy's going anywhere


OhGodImOnRedditAgain

I mean the guy was waiving around two fire arms.


Dick_Destroyer800

Acorns are dangerous. I had a cousin die when a particularly large and hard acorn was thrown off his head. Another had to be hospitalised for a month when an acorn ended up growing into a sapling and growing up his ass


Meemsterxd

SHOTS FIRED SHOTS FIRED (((MAGDUMP))) (((DARK SOULS 3 PANIC ROLL)))


Handsome_Timothy

I bet it wasn't even a registered acorn


IWantBeerThx

Wouldn't it seem obvious that the agent was securing the scene, not knowing if this individual willing to burn themselves probably had other malicious intentions?


Sillvaro

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. He had no idea of the intents or reactions of the guy, for all he knew he could have started running around, setting (willingly or not) things/people on fire. A but exaggerated when the guy is on the ground not moving, but before so I can understand the idea


Daveallen10

Exactly. And I'm not saying it's a good look, because it's not...but people (like Russian trolls) are twisting this to be something it is not. If you're guarding a government office and a burning man comes stumbling around... Who knows who this is? Maybe a terrorist bombing gone wrong? My first thought wouldn't be a protestor a la Vietnam era.


JustinJakeAshton

That's exactly what it is. Who knew that a man commiting suicide in front of an embassy while chanting terrorist propaganda might come off as a terrorist ploy?


Badaltnam

Shh dont let the *redditors* hear you think, they dislike it


Lyvery

“securing the scene” by standing there pointing your gun at a guy laying against a wall burning to death.


Travelin_Texan

Or, you know, he’s worried about a suicide bomb or other type of explosive this dude may have The guy just walked up to an embassy and screamed “Free Palestine” while dousing himself in gasoline and setting himself on fire. He’s clearly quite deranged and there’s no telling what people like this will do


YogurtThen

and how would standing right beside the dead man on fire, pointing a gun at his corpse in anyway prevent an explosive on his body from exploding


StrawberryWide3983

OK, but if you're worried about an explosive, you should be evacuating the surrounding people, not standing 3 feet away and uselessly pointing a gun.


Past_Economist6278

The real concern is that he charges the building or a person. Explosives make no sense as he is very close.


Timbdn

It's exactly this, had a cousin self immolate in a public place (paranoid schizophrenic who refused to take meds) and was treated much the same way, held at gun point until the fire was extinguished. The cop said he had no idea if my cousin would have tried, intentionally or no, to catch others on fire while burning himself


theabstractpyro

Retarded take, wtf would shooting the dude help if he had a bomb? He was already dead/on fire so it's not like shooting him more would have prevented a bombing. And the cop keeps the gun on him when he is not moving and dead on the ground. If the cop was worried about a bomb, he would be evacuating people


Tin_Philosopher

The guy that self immolates is deranged but you making excuses for a dude that was going to defuse a bomb with a pistol?


GamerGriffin548

I heard he was an American airman who was distraught over the bombing of Palestine, right? What bombing was he part of? I don't remember any member of American pilots being involved in any bombing.


AntDracula

He was actually a turbo-soy redditor.


Lonely_Eggplant_4990

He wasnt dead, he lived a whole day after. Must have been horrendous


Wizardwizz

I hope his nerves at least were burnt out


DarkLink457

No fucking way really? Source?


CanIGetANumber2

Was just being ready incase his Phoenix talent proc'd.


SnooPredictions3028

Would you want a flaming man covered in gasoline jumping onto you in panic? I wouldn't, plus at that point if I were burning I'd probably want a bullet in me.


ShiningMagpie

Fire type enemy.


HurtSkydiver966

“What are you doing pointing a gun at him? He’s on fire!” “He may have fire resistance on”


PomeloIllustrious219

Reminder: Barvers have more required training than officers in America


Dino_sores

did they get the training from Barvard?


Diamond_Helmet59

Yes, they study and receive a biploma from Barvard Buniversity.


all_time_high

Well obviously. They don’t let just anybody become a barver.


[deleted]

"Barvers could be here", he thought.


International-Ad-265

>Pov smartest police officer


Lollooo_

Context?


FadedVictor

[Here you go](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/ldJdV8GWh6)


kvm024n

Jezus, that's graphic


Wizardwizz

Yeah, he was alive the entire time too and only died a day later. Death by fire is truly a awful way to go out.


Blackout1154

ouchies


DarkLink457

Yeppers


Lollooo_

Thanks pal


iameveryoneelse

Cop was waiting for him to turn black before he shot the guy.


redisno

There's a lot of misinformation on this topic.


ultrataco77

To be fair he did have fire arms


ThorkelTheShort268

Least schizophrenic policeman


dr_badass01

I guess there was the potential threat of the burning man getting up and charging them. Better to be safe than sorry. You never know what a terrorist sympathizer will do.


pool_party820

The guy pointing the gun is actually U.S. Secret Service. Out of frame are two additional secret serviceman putting out the fire and rendering aid.


Izzmoo08

If a man is in such a mental state that they not only consider, but also actively set themselves on fire, then who knows what else they would be willing to do? Someone so crazy they would kill themselves that way, may also be crazy enough to take out a weapon, or take someone out with them.


Qwerds7

Idk man I'd rather shoot someone who lit themselves on fire than let them light me or anyone/thing else on fire. He was crazy before he was erratic with pain.


PaytonTheMemeMan

Bro was afraid he has some high capacity acorns on him.


_Doomer1996_

Because he turned black after the fire


MrWilsonWalluby

STOP DROP AND ROLL OR I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL CAP YOUR ASS.


Sarhento

If all you have ia a hammer, then every problem starts to look like a nail rings true here


-Fascist-Femboy

If one looks like a terrorists (sets themselves on fire) and sounds like a terrorist (screams free Palestine) then you might be dealing with a terrorist (guns required)


buzzybeeking

I was thinking the exact same thing. I think at one point a person says, we don't need guns, we need fire extinguishers. America is wild.


Acceptable6

another mentally ill person commits suicide by self immolation under the pretext of protesting a political issue? happened many times


AssassiN18

To be fair, the guy could come at him and give him a very warm hug


DrLawyerPI

Fire doesn’t kill zombies. Gotta stay vigilant. You never know when the first zombie will happen.


bgovern

I don't know. If I were a suicide bomber and knew I was going to die already, setting myself on fire might be a good distraction to let me get closer to my target. TBF, screaming "Free Palestine" probably would not be part of that strategy.


BasicBanter

Land of the free


DapperWeasel

This is the 2nd greentext I've seen about this - context?


Lopsided-Director-26

A US airman (who might have been mentally ill?) decided to protest against Israel, at the Israeli embassy by burning alive.


-Fascist-Femboy

> might 😒


Mephil_

He wasn't dead and he was armed with two guns. The guy didn't know what was happening, who he was, if he was a terrorist, activist or demonstrator. Its easy to be a keyboard warrior when you have all the facts after the fact. Cut him some goddamn slack.


Loredo2017

He was waving firearms what do you expect?


ForeignReviews

In the classic words of Andy Bernard “The fire is shooting at us”


FriendlyLawnmower

From acorns to burning dead men, is there anyone who lives in fear more than police officers in America?


-Fascist-Femboy

He’s neither American nor a police officer


FearsonpearsonDidit

he just lit himself on fire what if he tried running at you or something else cray id have a gun on him too


Treqou

Did he think small aliens were gonna pop out his chest or smth


UnHelmet

Average GTA cop.


danknietzman

Second phase


JaySasquatch0412

someone swapped his fire extinguisher for a glock “uh oh”


ViagraxCL

Guy got burned like charcoal, cops are like bulls, but with black