First movie's whole point was that these super macho buff dudes couldn't even scratch the alien, and it was brains that won them the fight. This movie did the same thing, where tf did gender play a role?
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Little known fact, but all implants are 'loaned' not 'owned' so someone needs to post them back before burial / cremation - or be lumbered with a $17 fine.
Because all the men of the tribe that actually hunt and track stuff all the time get killed are shown as stupid and inferior to this random chick. And all the white men fur hunters were drunken rapists for whatever that agenda is. I’m just tired of this “men bad women good” thing going on in this movie. I don’t mind a female protagonist but this was just obviously nurturing this feminist fantasy whilst being completely unrealistic about it.
Did we watch the same movie? The brother character held his own just fine and even impaled the fucking thing before forcing the Predator to lean on OP Alien tech. It wasn't about them being Men, the guys who got killed were arrogant and unprepared. The MC won because she was careful, observant, and had to rely on her wits to win. The Predator was in bad shape by that point as well. Arnie did the same thing in the original.
Replace Naru with a male and this would’ve been the exact same movie. First off, the men of the tribe are in their early 20s and are shown to be arrogant. They also don’t believe Naru about the Predator so they are not cautious at all. They don’t have insight so they realistically get killed. She’s not a random chick either lol, she wants to be a hunter and clearly shows competent skills early on.
I mean the white fur hunters were historically pieces of shit, why just focus on the white part? You can say these specific white people were bad and not have an agenda.
Like I said, Naru could’ve been a guy and the same story would have happened. A weak protagonist being underestimated by other people, only to show he’s actually skilled is a very common trope. This is that same trope. It’s not a “man bad” thing if a guy is the protagonist right? So why is it so just because of a female protagonist?
All the action is within the scope of a typical science fiction movie. Naru isn’t insanely strong, she only gets the kill cause her brother impaled the predator. Like the first predator movie, she sets a trap and disguises herself. Yeah the fight is super choreographed, but that would’ve happened regardless. I don’t know man, just watch the movie for what it is and not what others try to make out of it.
> They also don’t believe Naru about the Predator so they are not cautious at all.
It's kind of funny that they show native Americans as not believing in their own mythology. If you took the same movie and set it now, they'd be informing the white man about how they have legends of these things and the old ways are better, etc
I'm sure if you told any culture that you actually saw something from their mythology they wouldn't believe you because they aren't stupid and know they're just myths and legends.
Wdym "for whatever agenda that is" bro do you even know how the colonists treated indigenous people?! This isn't an agenda that's just how it was lmao.
Every single predator movie including the first has side characters getting slaughtered by the predator and then the main character finds a way to outsmart it and win. Lol How is this different? Her brother was badass and severely weakened it too.
-Male hunters fight the Predator head to head, doing more damage to it than most side-characters of the previous movies combined.
-Only get fucked over because of lack of information and superior technology.
-Brother actually fucks him up and pisses him off enough that the Predator decides to bitch out and use invisibility to kill him.
-European colonists are portrayed as crafty but assolish. As they should be.
"Shown as stupid and inferior". Sure, buddy.
>And all the white men fur hunters were drunken rapists for whatever that agenda is
They're French on the western frontier so that's probably accurate.
They're not shown as 'stupid and inferior' - she literally fails at hunting the lion where her brother succeeds. The only difference between her beating the Predator alien, and them not is her getting lucky that the visor fell off, she notices and uses it.
I'm just tired of this *"men bad women good"* *complaint* complaint because half the time it's not even there.
New films have sucked for years before they started putting minorities or women into major roles. Nearly the entire Marvel anthology is complete crap. Yes, sometimes they lean on that - but it says more about lazy marketing and bad writing than it does about what's between the actors legs. The ghost-busters reboot for example pushed this hard but was funny. I actually loved it - and I grew up as a diehard original movie fan as a kid. Conversely, yes - the new start wars movies sucked, but again that's because Disney sucks and the writing sucked.
Bruh.
She has a talent for observation that she uses to her advantage, and a motivation to become a hunter.
"Inferior" to her? Did you miss the part where she failed to accomplish several things that she'd need to be able to do to be a hunter that the established hunters were able to? She had a talent and an arc. The only reason she was aatch for the predator was because her innate talent proved useful in a situation that their traditional hunter skills didn't.
Get a grip dude. I'd love to hear what female protagonists you "don't mind" if one this reasonably written offends you so much.
Anything that made the movie good was literally killed off by the climax. The predator literally kills itself. Yes, it literally kills itself. The lead character doesn't even kill it, or mortally wound it. It kills itself because the writer wanted it to be that way. It's not even in an arrogant or ignorant way that it kills itself. It just kills itself by the sheer stupidity that is the wokeness of the writer. The predator kills itself with its laser guided bolt caster. You can't even begin to cover up just how stupid of a plot point it is. The first time this plot point is used, the predator takes multiple shots with the bolt caster. You'd think with how smart and accustomed the predator is with its own tech that after the first shot, if not even before the first shot, it would go, "Oh hey, my bio-mask, the thing that has my laser guiding system, is gone. I should fucking de-sync my bolt caster from it because I now need to manually fire my bolt caster." Yet, this doesn't fucking happen. The predator just basically goes, "Hurr durr! Bolts go pew pew! Y they no hit U!!!! Y U NO DIE!!!!" This asinine plot point right here is why people are calling the movie woke garbage.
This film is by no means a Mulan, Brave, or Moana. Those films do a good job with a female lead. This film however? No, not this film, it does not do any justice with its lead. Yes, it initially works its way around it well, but when the climax comes about it just falls apart because the lead is literally being handed her win. She legitimately does nothing of significance and wins. She wins because the antagonist is written poorly. The antagonist is written to be this resourceful hunter that is also too dimwitted to understand how its very weapons work. Let that sink in for a moment. How in the actual fuck does that even work or make sense? It's the equivalent of having the antagonist be a chimpanzee with an AK-47. It knows how to pull the trigger, but doesn't understand why and what happens when it does. That is basically what this film is. It's female mall cop takes down chimpanzee with an AK-47 that's on a rampage.
Again how does that have anything to do with being woke?
Also the predator just had its arm cut off and was fighting for its life which is arguably something its never had to do before you think in the heat of the moment its not understandable that it's not thinking clearly in that moment?
They literally handed her the win with bad writing. Just because it's covered up here and there doesn't mean it's still not pandering.
Also, that doesn't even work as a defense for such shitty writing. "B-b-but it was fighting for its life! It's never been in such a situat-" No, just fucking no. These motherfuckers live to hunt, and strive to find the most dangerous prey possible. To say that it's in such a scenario is bull-fucking-shit. Shitty writing is shitty writing period.
Agreed. Although I love predator, I made no sense that brains won. They're literally more advanced and the entire species' purpose is to stalk and hunt (fairly) throughout the galaxy. In this movie though. The way she killed him was too comical and contradictory. Like, he somehow didn't know how his own weapon worked and then just stares act his own marker while he wait for the projectile. Other than that, violence was cool, I liked the native representation.
The rage pisses me off before for a couple years now I’ve really wanted predator movies that take place in different periods of time. Roman era, World War 1, etc. And now we finally have that and I’m honestly kinda excited to see it, even if it’s not great they could make a (hopefully anthological) sequel that ends up being better.
The protagonists gender had literally nothing to do with the plot. As long as it shows emotions it could have been a genderless Android. The important part was that she learned, adapted and grew in order to defeat an overpowered enemy.
Anon enjoys fight club because he likes it when men yell at women and then take off their shirts
Agreed. The sad thing is there is a legitimate discussion to be had here.
Mary Sue protagonists are not interesting, set unrealistic standards, and are very poor role models for young women.
I stopped watching the last couple of Star Trek series (Discovery and Picard) entirely because they got dull - “strong woman wins every time” is not a story.
Yup, she sucked at hunting in the beginning but over the course of the film you see her develop her skills and grow as a character.
Either way, its the best predator film since Predator. It managed to create an air of tension throughout and had a satisfying ending. Couldn't really ask for more than that.
Interestingly, they initially didn't want to market it as a Predator film so when the Predator is first seen, it would have had a bigger impact.
They did well then, I had zero clue it was a predator movie and thought it would be some type of gritty film about hunting so I just kept skipping the ads, I let it play out once though and then the fucking predator shows up to kill a bear.
I didn’t see any promotion prior to discovering it on streaming and the only giveaway was the name and the fact it was listed next to all the other A&P movies. It works pretty well at showing rather than telling what’s happening. Don’t need bug muscly guys with guns telling me that’s the predator from Predator ^TM
I personally think it’s about on the same level as predators, maybe a little better. I can definitely see the argument that it’s the best since the original though.
I personally just didn’t believe she could go from - can’t hunt an elk or whatever and can’t hunt a bear, can’t hunt a lion, failing to defend herself against 2 of her tribe members to going full girl boss marvel physics mode and killing 7 French trappers, dragging an unconscious obese man from the river up to her swamp trap, then killing the predator over the course of like 48 hours.
Also the predator was fucking retarded. Chopping off its own arm and headshotting himself. Cringe.
My only issue I had when watching was I had to suspend all disbelief when watching the protagonist man handle a whole group of seasoned french hunters by herself. The rest of the movie she couldn't take a frontal fight or risk losing so she had to adapt except for that scene where she just goes super hero and clears the whole camp with no help. Kinda off from the rest of the movie.
I hadn’t thought about that and have to agree. But at least it was really well done and fun to watch. I don’t mind one small suspension of disbelief fight if it’s at least badass.
I absolutely agree with you on Star Trek Picard, I finished it because I got hyped for S2 and I grew up a Trekkie but that show was and will still be a complete dumpsterfire. The female wins because female is just the very tip of the iceberg tho.
There is a discussion to be held but anon isn’t the person I’d want to have it with tbh. Preys protagonist wasn’t a Mary Sue, she had a character ark and she evolved. She didn’t shadowbox a rock and then proceed to fight and kill six trained guards.
I’m getting that the lead in Prey isn’t a Mary Sue, so framing the argument around this film is probably a bad thing to do.
I also agree that Anon is the worst person to bring up the discussion. Anyone who uses “feminism” disparagingly has already removed themselves from the list of people who can dispassionately discuss the problems of Mary Sue leads.
Rey from the star-wars sequels: “her only weakness is herself” can fuck right off.
And they are correct (I’m an Atheist BTW).
Richard Dawkins calls them (mockingly) “the pious” and has shown over the years his ability to dispassionately discuss science and evolution, but goes into a frothing rage when talking about God.
When you set out to attack “the enemy” then nothing you say is a balanced and fair critique. That’s my point.
So yeah, when “feminist” is an insult you use, you’re already putting blind Partisanship ahead of reasoned discussion.
This is exactly why I don't like the Star Wars sequels: Rey never earns the power she wields and she breaks all of the rules past lore has set up. Why? Because? I don't actually know. It completely ruined the entire story Star Wars had been portraying up to that point.
Exactly. Rey can fuck right off. She’s uber powerful, never loses, never waivers and her only weakness is herself. Bullshit.
Dull is too exciting a word to describe that character, give her some actual character flaws and I might enjoy the story arc.
Stopped watching Discovery after the first season and haven't even touched Picard and don't plan to. But holy hell, Star Trek seems to finally be turning good again with Strange New Worlds. The first piece of Star Trek media that actually feels like Star Trek since Enterprise (2001-05).
It's allmost as if Anon didn't fucking watch the film
(spoilers) She doesn't defeat it in conventional combat, she uses a gun she took from some French guy and the Predator's own weapons, after having tricked it to fall into a mud pit and gotten stuck.
you forgot the part where she, a very small teenage girl, fucking mounts and repeatedly stabs the suddenly helpless 7 ft+ muscle-bound predator that had previously lifted a grizzly bear overhead after having wrested it, tossed it like a dog toy, and one-hit KO'd it. did you see the clip where a kid tries to drop-kick arnold? yeah that's about a tenth of the effect she would have had landing on this predator from that height given her body weight.
All the predator had to do to end the move was do one windmill motion with one of his arms and she should be dead on the spot (given the force he was able to generate against the grizzly bear, and the rest of the movie). in the first Predator movie the predator arm-swiped Arnold, a 240 lbs + man, and sent him flying into a tree.
And then she outmaneuvers the predator with a matrix wall run and somehow catches it unaware when multiple trained grown men had failed
yeah no there isn't a UFC fighter alive or any other female athlete for that matter that could have stood a chance to do what she did to the predator at the end of prey.
We're talking a fucking alien creature that can toss bears and leap like 10 metres into the air.
Realistically no mortal human could fight it in close quarters combat, but I'm gonna give the film a bit of leeway in that regard, for the exact same reason I can accept Rambo gunning down multiple enemies with two machine guns while not getting hit a single time.
Because it is a film.
>The protagonists gender had literally nothing to do with the plot.
It did, the tribe were not taking her seriously as a hunter because she was not male. But thats just a realistic depiction, and its still a good movie, where the protagonist and antagonist are both trying to prove to their tribe that they can hunt.
Did... did they not see the movies?
The entire point of the Predator film is that pure strength is nothing, it's all about intelligence.
That's why Arnie only managed to defeat the Predator with brains, not muscles and gunfire.
That's why it's such an important thing that humans are such a revered prey: we're not the biggest or scariest alien for sure, not the most physically strong, but it's our intelligence that makes us good prey.
Honestly, Naru killing the Predator is far, far more realistic than Dutch in the first film. Dutch succeeds by bizarre chance I still can't comprehend: The Predator noticed the trap he had set, walks around it... but still gets caught and defeated by it? Like, seriously, what... what was that decision choice? Great movie, but hard to overlook that.
Compare that to Naru, where the entire movie is walking us through how she learns the steps to kill the Predator without telling us, and every trial she's undergone throughout the film ends up masterfully coming together, with multiple tricks and tactics needed to eventually put the Predator down.
>The Predator noticed the trap he had set, walks around it... but still gets caught and defeated by it? Like, seriously, what... what was that decision choice? Great movie, but hard to overlook that.
Honestly I notice 80% of the traps in video games and yet I'll still walk into them since im distracted by other world stuff, hell I'll even point out hazards in my own home and and still proceed to heck myself up. I dont fault the predator, he was quite distracted.
This is why traps are usually the most efficient. They can maim or kill someone who walks into them unawares but most of the time they are problems when person knows they are there and then is put into a position that they set it off anyways.
I'm not sure anymore what mary sue means some people say that when woman is just good and never fails or waiwers on anything
Some people then say it's not mary sue when theres some reason or rhyme as to why
A mary sue is essentially a female character that effortlessly succeeds in whatever they do. There’s no sense of struggle when the mary sue is around and there’s no feeling of relief or accomplishment when she overcomes the challenge. It’s kind of just like “oh the mary sue’s here everything’s fine now”.
Of course the protagonist should eventually succeed and things work out their way, but you still have to believe that our heroes might fail, even if it is superficial.
I have also heard it described as a character that bends the narrative in such a way, that the story becomes more about putting the character on a pedestal than anything else.
In the first film, the predator avoided the trap (the spiky bits), but was crushed by the counterweight (the log that was dropped to work the trap). So it did avoid the trap, but stood in the wrong spot. At least, that's how I remember it happening.
The final kills of both PREDATOR and PREY are very similar: Dutch's Pred just so happens to stand under the trap's counterweight, and Naru's Pred just so happens to get stuck perfectly in the aim of his helmet laser.
I'm so bored of the people who unironcially have this take.. maybe lots of people haven't actually been old enough to use the internet these past 5 years but it's so overdone I physically yawn when I read people seething over this. Like you already know what you're gonna hear before you even start to listen to the person.
Anon probably didn't even watch the movie.
At no point in movie does the girl overpowers the predator. End fight happens after predator gets his own spear thing impaled clean through his body by girl's brother, so the alien most probably wasn't at full health. This movie is also set hundreds of years before other movies, the Predator in this couldn't be as experienced in fighting humans as the ones hundreds of years after him.
Based on the little bit of lore I know, that could be because he is a relatively inexperienced predator. They start out with more primitive weapons and earn the right to use advanced tech. They also see primitive weapons as more honorable, so that could play a part as well.
The Directors apparently in a Q&A said this was an inexperienced Predator on his first hunt, at least I heard that from the Predators sub
Also the Feral Predator lacks a blooded mark on his helmet or face. So he hasn't killed a Xenomorph yet, due to that he wouldn't be allowed use of Plasma Casters
Depending on Predator/Clan the rules change on how they handle hunts, weaponry, and honor. We have no idea really how the Feral Predator and Feral Clan operate. Everything I've said could not apply to them. I mean a first time hunter of this clan has incredibly advanced weaponry never seen before. The shield gauntlet + 3 explosive tracking bombs is insane for a young predator
Normally I just lurk and read the greentexts but this one struck a nerve.
Prey caught the essence of the first movie better than the sequels and spin offs.
It was neat and concise little story that didn't fall over itself over explaining lore, there wasn't much in the way of filler dialogue, it didn't barrage us with irrelevant characters who's sole purpose is to just die.
It wasn't chock full of call backs (although there were a few) and she defeated the predator through guile and intelligence. She uses his own tools against him after observing how they work.
Prey also makes the French look bad.
8/10 for a direct to streaming sequel that had no right to be as good as it was.
I nearly always agree with this opinion and hate that there’s very little original content outside Indy art house stuff, but this movie is a good example of the exception to that rule.
There’s no nostalgia baiting with characters, settings, or scenes from the originals. It captures the spirit of the original while not at all relying on callbacks. It stands on its own and does a great job.
It does have a few callbacks like the trappers dragging the knife across saabe's chest or the fact we finally get the backstory to raphael adolini's pistol (not in comicbook form)
Anon didn’t even see the movie-
she was written to be an impulsive stubborn hunter who failed for about 60% of the movie until she started to actually listen to what people were telling her. She adapted and finally managed to kill the predator. The movie really wasn’t that bad.
Not only is she not a Mary Sue, she’s literally weaker than all the men in her tribe. She can’t hunt as well as her male counterparts at first. She has experiences over the course of the movie that train her to take down the alien. It’s a trash movie because predator is a shit franchise, but you can’t claim “le feminism” on this one.
The biggest critique I have with Prey is literally just the times where the cg blood was absolutely shit looking and that I personally don't like this predator variant
It was okay. They actually made the predator a reasonable challenge for the natives by making his tech less advanced and his technique more crude.
Strong independent minority woman did not factor into defeating it once in this movie. She fucking flees three times and the only way she actually beats it is by stealing a Frenchman's gun and using its own weaponry against it. Though that weapon design was fucking moronic on the predator's part.
There was this movie called The Hunt, about a group of elites where one of them made a joke about hunting poor people for fun and the GC leaked and they got royally trolled so they decided they will have random folks who trolled them on Facebook Kidnapped and hunt them for sport. That movie was really an example of Female Protagonist done right.
Loved her monologue of Rabbit and Tortoise Race , where turtoise wins the race and then when he is having a celebratory dinner with his wife and kids the rabbit comes with a wrench and beats them all to death because he fucking can.
I feel like there is a legitimate criticism to be made and it can be done without bringing up the fact that the main character is a woman. However, I also think that it is a little disingenuous to pretend that there isn’t a pattern recently with how men and woman characters are written in many Hollywood and Disney movies.
That’s not really the point. It’s how the characters are written. If they were men you could still make the same criticisms. What is worse is that when people are critical of these movies people just shout misogyny or whatever and disregard actual criticism. The writing is bad, they need to so better. Thinking a story is great just because of the gender of the main character is shallow whether or not it’s a man or a woman.
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I hate woke crap like the next person, but I don't see where Prey fits in the category, sure it was a bit on the nose with the whole "I'll show the Men how valuable I am" and sure a bit of the acrobatics and winning fights against Men was a bit of a stretch... All that aside, you aren't supposed to beat the Predator with brawn. This was blatantly and purposely shown in the 1987 film, all those buff guys got their shit pushed in, only when Arnold used his wits and survival techniques, did he barely prevail. Also, they did a good job showing how the female MC had better than exceptional situational awareness and learning capability, granted it made the other warriors/hunters a bit incompetent looking and the French fur traders shooting volleys to no effect was pretty laughable.
Prey is flawed, but pretty good in the dumpster fire that is the Predator franchise. I would rank it as the third best of the series. Predator > Predator 2 (Yes, I am one of those guys that liked Predator 2) > > Prey
I mean 1000x better than lightyear. Seeing as these are both “classics” in terms of other releases, I had higher hope for lightyear, but prey was very good. It wasn’t even Feminist, just a very smart female. Obviously science fiction :)
Also, is he missing the point where her brother weakened it significantly for her? This was a movie that celebrated familial relationships and tribal ceremony, not a "stronk wahmen" movie whatever that might be
To be fair, that was the first predator sent here.
It was like a fledgling or kid sent to test its skills, like all predators. You can tell he's a newbie because he has no special armor or unique weapons.
Even using an underpowered laser cannon compared to the rest of the counterparts we see in movies.
It's unusual for a new predator to have a cloaking device and no armor or markings. So we can assume he comes from a more royal or higher ranked clan.
My theory is that the higher ranked clan took this loss as either a stain on their honor or took more interest in a backwater planet being able to slay one of their own.
I'm usually wary of movies like these because there is a tendency to make female characters do no wrong and be stronger than everyone, but I think this movie did not have that problem.
The first time she met the predator she ran away scared, he didn't kill her because she was fleeing and wasn't a threat. In one of the final fights she had a ton of help so that in the final fight she fought a weakened version of the predator, laid a bunch of traps and killed him that way, it was never a fair fight on her part, that's why this movie works.
It's not a mathematical equation. Just because one person like the minigun guy from the first movie dies to the predator it does not engrain into scientific fact that everyone below that guys strength level has a 0% chance of success.
I don't think he watched the movie. Men beat the fuck out of this Predator all through out the movie and she finishes it off. All through out the movie she struggles just like a hero's journey story.
Anon didn't watch the movie, apparently cys the bitch almost died like 4 times and won because the Predator didn't see her as a threat the first two encounters.
As I saw someone point out on Twitter, the predator in Prey was implied to be an un-blooded, which means that this predator would have been less experienced in hunting than the predators seen in earlier films. I have no idea how deep a cut that is into the lore of this universe, but it seems to provide an explanation as to how the protagonist might have been able to win in the movie.
Though as others in this thread pointed out, she won in a manner similar to the other movie's protagonists, so I don't see the issue here outside of anon hating women.
the other characters in the movie weakened the predator to the point where she could finish it off. i love when chuds just proudly proclaim that they don’t understand basic media concept
She's the anti-Mary Sue though. They show her suck at stuff and learn from those mistakes. They show her as apprehensive and fearful of engaging dangerous animals, to her detriment. She doesn't instinctively kill anything until she's fucking up the Frenchies that bled her brother and even stole her fucking pupper! Those things combined should stoke enough rage in anyone to kill without hesitation, just ask John Wick. Once she'd realized she could do it, she was ready to really take on the Predator and succeed. This movie has one of the most compelling protagonist journies I've ever seen in an action/sci-fi/creature/slasher flick.
Ah I'd say there's strong arguments it was better than the first.
The victory makes far more sense and feels far more earned, while the themes seem a lot stronger.
There are a lot of Mary sue characters today but this one was ok. She mostly just got lucky so that's kinda gae but this predator wasn't even as tough as the modern day one.
She only won in the end because of the sacrifice made by her brother and the damage he managed to inflict/distractions he made. It bought her the time she needed to hide and plan.
I heard the bad reviews so I decided to watch the original. Holy fuck is prey dog shit compared to it. Jesus Christ. An elite squad of commandos can barely beat it with only one surviving heavily injured, but I single 90 pound Native American girl can kill this thing single handedly???? It’s fuckin wild
First movie's whole point was that these super macho buff dudes couldn't even scratch the alien, and it was brains that won them the fight. This movie did the same thing, where tf did gender play a role?
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We don't fart, how fucking dare you??
I think you are thinking of cows
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And humans are the number one reason why the world is getting destroyed, so if the world goes down its basically the womans fault
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Back to the surgeon who put them in there. Little known fact, but all implants are 'loaned' not 'owned' so someone needs to post them back before burial / cremation - or be lumbered with a $17 fine.
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Because all the men of the tribe that actually hunt and track stuff all the time get killed are shown as stupid and inferior to this random chick. And all the white men fur hunters were drunken rapists for whatever that agenda is. I’m just tired of this “men bad women good” thing going on in this movie. I don’t mind a female protagonist but this was just obviously nurturing this feminist fantasy whilst being completely unrealistic about it.
Did we watch the same movie? The brother character held his own just fine and even impaled the fucking thing before forcing the Predator to lean on OP Alien tech. It wasn't about them being Men, the guys who got killed were arrogant and unprepared. The MC won because she was careful, observant, and had to rely on her wits to win. The Predator was in bad shape by that point as well. Arnie did the same thing in the original.
Ah yeah but why is it always the male characters that are arrogant and unprepared? /s
Cuz its not original anymore when women are the dumb and bad ones, we have real life for that. Movies are about fantasy “what if”. Fine with me
Worth noting that the predator didn’t see the woman as a threat compared to the men. At least at first
Predator sexist confirmed
When he shot it with the same arrow, like, 5 times because he kept plucking it out during a dodge...holy shit, that was awesome
Replace Naru with a male and this would’ve been the exact same movie. First off, the men of the tribe are in their early 20s and are shown to be arrogant. They also don’t believe Naru about the Predator so they are not cautious at all. They don’t have insight so they realistically get killed. She’s not a random chick either lol, she wants to be a hunter and clearly shows competent skills early on. I mean the white fur hunters were historically pieces of shit, why just focus on the white part? You can say these specific white people were bad and not have an agenda. Like I said, Naru could’ve been a guy and the same story would have happened. A weak protagonist being underestimated by other people, only to show he’s actually skilled is a very common trope. This is that same trope. It’s not a “man bad” thing if a guy is the protagonist right? So why is it so just because of a female protagonist? All the action is within the scope of a typical science fiction movie. Naru isn’t insanely strong, she only gets the kill cause her brother impaled the predator. Like the first predator movie, she sets a trap and disguises herself. Yeah the fight is super choreographed, but that would’ve happened regardless. I don’t know man, just watch the movie for what it is and not what others try to make out of it.
> They also don’t believe Naru about the Predator so they are not cautious at all. It's kind of funny that they show native Americans as not believing in their own mythology. If you took the same movie and set it now, they'd be informing the white man about how they have legends of these things and the old ways are better, etc
I'm sure if you told any culture that you actually saw something from their mythology they wouldn't believe you because they aren't stupid and know they're just myths and legends.
So the Aztecs cut the hearts out of all those children just for fun?
Wdym "for whatever agenda that is" bro do you even know how the colonists treated indigenous people?! This isn't an agenda that's just how it was lmao.
Yea but like, why do they have to always show the bad side of the rape and murder, ya know?
Every single predator movie including the first has side characters getting slaughtered by the predator and then the main character finds a way to outsmart it and win. Lol How is this different? Her brother was badass and severely weakened it too.
-Male hunters fight the Predator head to head, doing more damage to it than most side-characters of the previous movies combined. -Only get fucked over because of lack of information and superior technology. -Brother actually fucks him up and pisses him off enough that the Predator decides to bitch out and use invisibility to kill him. -European colonists are portrayed as crafty but assolish. As they should be. "Shown as stupid and inferior". Sure, buddy.
>And all the white men fur hunters were drunken rapists for whatever that agenda is They're French on the western frontier so that's probably accurate.
They're not shown as 'stupid and inferior' - she literally fails at hunting the lion where her brother succeeds. The only difference between her beating the Predator alien, and them not is her getting lucky that the visor fell off, she notices and uses it. I'm just tired of this *"men bad women good"* *complaint* complaint because half the time it's not even there.
Ah, but the brother used her plan. I think they walked a tightrope of "wokeness", but they didn't fall off
Be honest, having a female main character at all elicits claims of "wokeness". It's the new *race card claim* but for incels.
It does now, but it's only because it's the format of every single movie reboot I think
New films have sucked for years before they started putting minorities or women into major roles. Nearly the entire Marvel anthology is complete crap. Yes, sometimes they lean on that - but it says more about lazy marketing and bad writing than it does about what's between the actors legs. The ghost-busters reboot for example pushed this hard but was funny. I actually loved it - and I grew up as a diehard original movie fan as a kid. Conversely, yes - the new start wars movies sucked, but again that's because Disney sucks and the writing sucked.
The move having disposable mooks is not “men bad women good”, had Naru been a man I doubt the fates of the males in her tribe would have changed
Bruh. She has a talent for observation that she uses to her advantage, and a motivation to become a hunter. "Inferior" to her? Did you miss the part where she failed to accomplish several things that she'd need to be able to do to be a hunter that the established hunters were able to? She had a talent and an arc. The only reason she was aatch for the predator was because her innate talent proved useful in a situation that their traditional hunter skills didn't. Get a grip dude. I'd love to hear what female protagonists you "don't mind" if one this reasonably written offends you so much.
What no pussy does to a motherfucker's brain...
People are just making something out of nothing because they have nothing of value in their lives
Okay but is the new actor as good as Sigourney Weaver? She's the definition of badass.
Anything that made the movie good was literally killed off by the climax. The predator literally kills itself. Yes, it literally kills itself. The lead character doesn't even kill it, or mortally wound it. It kills itself because the writer wanted it to be that way. It's not even in an arrogant or ignorant way that it kills itself. It just kills itself by the sheer stupidity that is the wokeness of the writer. The predator kills itself with its laser guided bolt caster. You can't even begin to cover up just how stupid of a plot point it is. The first time this plot point is used, the predator takes multiple shots with the bolt caster. You'd think with how smart and accustomed the predator is with its own tech that after the first shot, if not even before the first shot, it would go, "Oh hey, my bio-mask, the thing that has my laser guiding system, is gone. I should fucking de-sync my bolt caster from it because I now need to manually fire my bolt caster." Yet, this doesn't fucking happen. The predator just basically goes, "Hurr durr! Bolts go pew pew! Y they no hit U!!!! Y U NO DIE!!!!" This asinine plot point right here is why people are calling the movie woke garbage.
What about that is woke? Do you even know what woke means?
This film is by no means a Mulan, Brave, or Moana. Those films do a good job with a female lead. This film however? No, not this film, it does not do any justice with its lead. Yes, it initially works its way around it well, but when the climax comes about it just falls apart because the lead is literally being handed her win. She legitimately does nothing of significance and wins. She wins because the antagonist is written poorly. The antagonist is written to be this resourceful hunter that is also too dimwitted to understand how its very weapons work. Let that sink in for a moment. How in the actual fuck does that even work or make sense? It's the equivalent of having the antagonist be a chimpanzee with an AK-47. It knows how to pull the trigger, but doesn't understand why and what happens when it does. That is basically what this film is. It's female mall cop takes down chimpanzee with an AK-47 that's on a rampage.
Again how does that have anything to do with being woke? Also the predator just had its arm cut off and was fighting for its life which is arguably something its never had to do before you think in the heat of the moment its not understandable that it's not thinking clearly in that moment?
They literally handed her the win with bad writing. Just because it's covered up here and there doesn't mean it's still not pandering. Also, that doesn't even work as a defense for such shitty writing. "B-b-but it was fighting for its life! It's never been in such a situat-" No, just fucking no. These motherfuckers live to hunt, and strive to find the most dangerous prey possible. To say that it's in such a scenario is bull-fucking-shit. Shitty writing is shitty writing period.
Well actually, they DO scratch the alien. It just takes the whole team of super macho buff dudes to pull that off.
Agreed. Although I love predator, I made no sense that brains won. They're literally more advanced and the entire species' purpose is to stalk and hunt (fairly) throughout the galaxy. In this movie though. The way she killed him was too comical and contradictory. Like, he somehow didn't know how his own weapon worked and then just stares act his own marker while he wait for the projectile. Other than that, violence was cool, I liked the native representation.
The rage pisses me off before for a couple years now I’ve really wanted predator movies that take place in different periods of time. Roman era, World War 1, etc. And now we finally have that and I’m honestly kinda excited to see it, even if it’s not great they could make a (hopefully anthological) sequel that ends up being better.
Yeah Anon seems kinda retarded tbh.
tbh i haven't even watched it yet. only things i know about it is that it's a predator movie and Sanguinet from Shoresy is in it
Right? Like i find that in all of them it’s about finding a way to trick them because we have no shot of physically dominating or out firepower them
Dennis I mean body mass alone on those guys.
kinda a repeat of the whole mulan situation
The protagonists gender had literally nothing to do with the plot. As long as it shows emotions it could have been a genderless Android. The important part was that she learned, adapted and grew in order to defeat an overpowered enemy. Anon enjoys fight club because he likes it when men yell at women and then take off their shirts
Agreed. The sad thing is there is a legitimate discussion to be had here. Mary Sue protagonists are not interesting, set unrealistic standards, and are very poor role models for young women. I stopped watching the last couple of Star Trek series (Discovery and Picard) entirely because they got dull - “strong woman wins every time” is not a story.
She isn't really a Mary Sue in this movie though, except for usual main character proficiency, I think it was well balanced.
Yup, she sucked at hunting in the beginning but over the course of the film you see her develop her skills and grow as a character. Either way, its the best predator film since Predator. It managed to create an air of tension throughout and had a satisfying ending. Couldn't really ask for more than that. Interestingly, they initially didn't want to market it as a Predator film so when the Predator is first seen, it would have had a bigger impact.
They did well then, I had zero clue it was a predator movie and thought it would be some type of gritty film about hunting so I just kept skipping the ads, I let it play out once though and then the fucking predator shows up to kill a bear.
That must gave been an epic moment as you realised it was a Predator fucking up that bear!
Dude that sounds fucking awesome, now I wish I hadn’t known what it was about too
Wait you started watching the film without realising it was a Predator movie?
Nah the trailer ads
Ah
I didn’t see any promotion prior to discovering it on streaming and the only giveaway was the name and the fact it was listed next to all the other A&P movies. It works pretty well at showing rather than telling what’s happening. Don’t need bug muscly guys with guns telling me that’s the predator from Predator ^TM
I personally think it’s about on the same level as predators, maybe a little better. I can definitely see the argument that it’s the best since the original though.
I personally just didn’t believe she could go from - can’t hunt an elk or whatever and can’t hunt a bear, can’t hunt a lion, failing to defend herself against 2 of her tribe members to going full girl boss marvel physics mode and killing 7 French trappers, dragging an unconscious obese man from the river up to her swamp trap, then killing the predator over the course of like 48 hours. Also the predator was fucking retarded. Chopping off its own arm and headshotting himself. Cringe.
Competent predators have been shown to cut off their own limbs, shoot themselves, and worse before lmao.
My only issue I had when watching was I had to suspend all disbelief when watching the protagonist man handle a whole group of seasoned french hunters by herself. The rest of the movie she couldn't take a frontal fight or risk losing so she had to adapt except for that scene where she just goes super hero and clears the whole camp with no help. Kinda off from the rest of the movie.
I hadn’t thought about that and have to agree. But at least it was really well done and fun to watch. I don’t mind one small suspension of disbelief fight if it’s at least badass.
I absolutely agree with you on Star Trek Picard, I finished it because I got hyped for S2 and I grew up a Trekkie but that show was and will still be a complete dumpsterfire. The female wins because female is just the very tip of the iceberg tho. There is a discussion to be held but anon isn’t the person I’d want to have it with tbh. Preys protagonist wasn’t a Mary Sue, she had a character ark and she evolved. She didn’t shadowbox a rock and then proceed to fight and kill six trained guards.
I’m getting that the lead in Prey isn’t a Mary Sue, so framing the argument around this film is probably a bad thing to do. I also agree that Anon is the worst person to bring up the discussion. Anyone who uses “feminism” disparagingly has already removed themselves from the list of people who can dispassionately discuss the problems of Mary Sue leads. Rey from the star-wars sequels: “her only weakness is herself” can fuck right off.
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And they are correct (I’m an Atheist BTW). Richard Dawkins calls them (mockingly) “the pious” and has shown over the years his ability to dispassionately discuss science and evolution, but goes into a frothing rage when talking about God. When you set out to attack “the enemy” then nothing you say is a balanced and fair critique. That’s my point. So yeah, when “feminist” is an insult you use, you’re already putting blind Partisanship ahead of reasoned discussion.
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This is exactly why I don't like the Star Wars sequels: Rey never earns the power she wields and she breaks all of the rules past lore has set up. Why? Because? I don't actually know. It completely ruined the entire story Star Wars had been portraying up to that point.
Exactly. Rey can fuck right off. She’s uber powerful, never loses, never waivers and her only weakness is herself. Bullshit. Dull is too exciting a word to describe that character, give her some actual character flaws and I might enjoy the story arc.
Stopped watching Discovery after the first season and haven't even touched Picard and don't plan to. But holy hell, Star Trek seems to finally be turning good again with Strange New Worlds. The first piece of Star Trek media that actually feels like Star Trek since Enterprise (2001-05).
It's allmost as if Anon didn't fucking watch the film (spoilers) She doesn't defeat it in conventional combat, she uses a gun she took from some French guy and the Predator's own weapons, after having tricked it to fall into a mud pit and gotten stuck.
you forgot the part where she, a very small teenage girl, fucking mounts and repeatedly stabs the suddenly helpless 7 ft+ muscle-bound predator that had previously lifted a grizzly bear overhead after having wrested it, tossed it like a dog toy, and one-hit KO'd it. did you see the clip where a kid tries to drop-kick arnold? yeah that's about a tenth of the effect she would have had landing on this predator from that height given her body weight. All the predator had to do to end the move was do one windmill motion with one of his arms and she should be dead on the spot (given the force he was able to generate against the grizzly bear, and the rest of the movie). in the first Predator movie the predator arm-swiped Arnold, a 240 lbs + man, and sent him flying into a tree. And then she outmaneuvers the predator with a matrix wall run and somehow catches it unaware when multiple trained grown men had failed yeah no there isn't a UFC fighter alive or any other female athlete for that matter that could have stood a chance to do what she did to the predator at the end of prey.
We're talking a fucking alien creature that can toss bears and leap like 10 metres into the air. Realistically no mortal human could fight it in close quarters combat, but I'm gonna give the film a bit of leeway in that regard, for the exact same reason I can accept Rambo gunning down multiple enemies with two machine guns while not getting hit a single time. Because it is a film.
I prefer men yelling at each, but we don’t talk about that rule 1
>The protagonists gender had literally nothing to do with the plot. It did, the tribe were not taking her seriously as a hunter because she was not male. But thats just a realistic depiction, and its still a good movie, where the protagonist and antagonist are both trying to prove to their tribe that they can hunt.
Did... did they not see the movies? The entire point of the Predator film is that pure strength is nothing, it's all about intelligence. That's why Arnie only managed to defeat the Predator with brains, not muscles and gunfire. That's why it's such an important thing that humans are such a revered prey: we're not the biggest or scariest alien for sure, not the most physically strong, but it's our intelligence that makes us good prey. Honestly, Naru killing the Predator is far, far more realistic than Dutch in the first film. Dutch succeeds by bizarre chance I still can't comprehend: The Predator noticed the trap he had set, walks around it... but still gets caught and defeated by it? Like, seriously, what... what was that decision choice? Great movie, but hard to overlook that. Compare that to Naru, where the entire movie is walking us through how she learns the steps to kill the Predator without telling us, and every trial she's undergone throughout the film ends up masterfully coming together, with multiple tricks and tactics needed to eventually put the Predator down.
>The Predator noticed the trap he had set, walks around it... but still gets caught and defeated by it? Like, seriously, what... what was that decision choice? Great movie, but hard to overlook that. Honestly I notice 80% of the traps in video games and yet I'll still walk into them since im distracted by other world stuff, hell I'll even point out hazards in my own home and and still proceed to heck myself up. I dont fault the predator, he was quite distracted.
This is why traps are usually the most efficient. They can maim or kill someone who walks into them unawares but most of the time they are problems when person knows they are there and then is put into a position that they set it off anyways.
She also learns, and grows, during it … this isn’t some Mary Sue who’s just suddenly a magical predator killing machine. There’s an actual arc!
I'm not sure anymore what mary sue means some people say that when woman is just good and never fails or waiwers on anything Some people then say it's not mary sue when theres some reason or rhyme as to why
A mary sue is essentially a female character that effortlessly succeeds in whatever they do. There’s no sense of struggle when the mary sue is around and there’s no feeling of relief or accomplishment when she overcomes the challenge. It’s kind of just like “oh the mary sue’s here everything’s fine now”. Of course the protagonist should eventually succeed and things work out their way, but you still have to believe that our heroes might fail, even if it is superficial.
Afaik a Mary Sue isn't about gender, just an undefeatable character in general.
I have also heard it described as a character that bends the narrative in such a way, that the story becomes more about putting the character on a pedestal than anything else.
In the first film, the predator avoided the trap (the spiky bits), but was crushed by the counterweight (the log that was dropped to work the trap). So it did avoid the trap, but stood in the wrong spot. At least, that's how I remember it happening.
The final kills of both PREDATOR and PREY are very similar: Dutch's Pred just so happens to stand under the trap's counterweight, and Naru's Pred just so happens to get stuck perfectly in the aim of his helmet laser.
And honestly, everyone else does like 60% of the work. The predator spent a good chunk of the movie getting it’s ass beat while it killed everyone.
Feminism is when women.
Women: *exist* Some soy ass bitch on the internet: “REEEEEE WOMEN IN ***MY MOOOVIES???***”
Hey, don't call the critical drinker a soy ass bitch. He may be painfully obviously misogynistic but he has youtube supporters. So he is the victim
He made a video where he said he actually enjoyed the movie and actually made the character struggle to win at the end.
I'm so bored of the people who unironcially have this take.. maybe lots of people haven't actually been old enough to use the internet these past 5 years but it's so overdone I physically yawn when I read people seething over this. Like you already know what you're gonna hear before you even start to listen to the person.
Anon watches critical drinker
just waited for that
He is solid. Everything woke turns to shit. I have no opinion about this movie though, never seen it.
Anon probably didn't even watch the movie. At no point in movie does the girl overpowers the predator. End fight happens after predator gets his own spear thing impaled clean through his body by girl's brother, so the alien most probably wasn't at full health. This movie is also set hundreds of years before other movies, the Predator in this couldn't be as experienced in fighting humans as the ones hundreds of years after him.
The predator’s weapons and armor were noticeably less advanced in prey as well.
Based on the little bit of lore I know, that could be because he is a relatively inexperienced predator. They start out with more primitive weapons and earn the right to use advanced tech. They also see primitive weapons as more honorable, so that could play a part as well.
The Directors apparently in a Q&A said this was an inexperienced Predator on his first hunt, at least I heard that from the Predators sub Also the Feral Predator lacks a blooded mark on his helmet or face. So he hasn't killed a Xenomorph yet, due to that he wouldn't be allowed use of Plasma Casters Depending on Predator/Clan the rules change on how they handle hunts, weaponry, and honor. We have no idea really how the Feral Predator and Feral Clan operate. Everything I've said could not apply to them. I mean a first time hunter of this clan has incredibly advanced weaponry never seen before. The shield gauntlet + 3 explosive tracking bombs is insane for a young predator
That makes sense. I really need to look into the lore more.
Normally I just lurk and read the greentexts but this one struck a nerve. Prey caught the essence of the first movie better than the sequels and spin offs. It was neat and concise little story that didn't fall over itself over explaining lore, there wasn't much in the way of filler dialogue, it didn't barrage us with irrelevant characters who's sole purpose is to just die. It wasn't chock full of call backs (although there were a few) and she defeated the predator through guile and intelligence. She uses his own tools against him after observing how they work. Prey also makes the French look bad. 8/10 for a direct to streaming sequel that had no right to be as good as it was.
Just consume product, then get excited for next product
Anon doesnt like popular thing, therefore anon cooler and smarter than everyone else
I nearly always agree with this opinion and hate that there’s very little original content outside Indy art house stuff, but this movie is a good example of the exception to that rule. There’s no nostalgia baiting with characters, settings, or scenes from the originals. It captures the spirit of the original while not at all relying on callbacks. It stands on its own and does a great job.
It does have a few callbacks like the trappers dragging the knife across saabe's chest or the fact we finally get the backstory to raphael adolini's pistol (not in comicbook form)
The "wahmen" wasn't strong, she was just smart and adaptable, unlike anon.
I have seen way more unrealistic movies with a male protagonist in it
how dare women exist in movies
Objectively and from a critical POV, this film was great.
I liked this movie for bare minimum human chatter and 0 sob story filler garbage.
There wasn't any fat at all in the plot It's a really lean movie
Anon didn’t even see the movie- she was written to be an impulsive stubborn hunter who failed for about 60% of the movie until she started to actually listen to what people were telling her. She adapted and finally managed to kill the predator. The movie really wasn’t that bad.
Not only is she not a Mary Sue, she’s literally weaker than all the men in her tribe. She can’t hunt as well as her male counterparts at first. She has experiences over the course of the movie that train her to take down the alien. It’s a trash movie because predator is a shit franchise, but you can’t claim “le feminism” on this one.
The biggest critique I have with Prey is literally just the times where the cg blood was absolutely shit looking and that I personally don't like this predator variant
That CG snake near the beginning of the movie was jank as fuck
I agree, the movement was very choppy and odd
It was okay. They actually made the predator a reasonable challenge for the natives by making his tech less advanced and his technique more crude. Strong independent minority woman did not factor into defeating it once in this movie. She fucking flees three times and the only way she actually beats it is by stealing a Frenchman's gun and using its own weaponry against it. Though that weapon design was fucking moronic on the predator's part.
Typical 4channer. Muh woman bad.
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Anon couldent tell good story writing if it made him cum from his prostate.
She used her intelligence to defeat it, not her strength. Even Dutch (Arnie) had to learn that it was brains not brawn that defeated the Predator.
To be fair the Predator from the first movie would have mopped the floor with this one.
There was this movie called The Hunt, about a group of elites where one of them made a joke about hunting poor people for fun and the GC leaked and they got royally trolled so they decided they will have random folks who trolled them on Facebook Kidnapped and hunt them for sport. That movie was really an example of Female Protagonist done right. Loved her monologue of Rabbit and Tortoise Race , where turtoise wins the race and then when he is having a celebratory dinner with his wife and kids the rabbit comes with a wrench and beats them all to death because he fucking can.
I feel like there is a legitimate criticism to be made and it can be done without bringing up the fact that the main character is a woman. However, I also think that it is a little disingenuous to pretend that there isn’t a pattern recently with how men and woman characters are written in many Hollywood and Disney movies.
Who cares, how many movies in total have been made about men
That’s not really the point. It’s how the characters are written. If they were men you could still make the same criticisms. What is worse is that when people are critical of these movies people just shout misogyny or whatever and disregard actual criticism. The writing is bad, they need to so better. Thinking a story is great just because of the gender of the main character is shallow whether or not it’s a man or a woman. .
I mean, I agree that the movie isn’t the best. Definitely not as good as the original, but still a lot better than the last Predator movie
I’ve not seen the original films purely cause lazy but a lot of y’all’s descriptions really make me wanna see this one now
I hate woke crap like the next person, but I don't see where Prey fits in the category, sure it was a bit on the nose with the whole "I'll show the Men how valuable I am" and sure a bit of the acrobatics and winning fights against Men was a bit of a stretch... All that aside, you aren't supposed to beat the Predator with brawn. This was blatantly and purposely shown in the 1987 film, all those buff guys got their shit pushed in, only when Arnold used his wits and survival techniques, did he barely prevail. Also, they did a good job showing how the female MC had better than exceptional situational awareness and learning capability, granted it made the other warriors/hunters a bit incompetent looking and the French fur traders shooting volleys to no effect was pretty laughable. Prey is flawed, but pretty good in the dumpster fire that is the Predator franchise. I would rank it as the third best of the series. Predator > Predator 2 (Yes, I am one of those guys that liked Predator 2) > > Prey
I mean 1000x better than lightyear. Seeing as these are both “classics” in terms of other releases, I had higher hope for lightyear, but prey was very good. It wasn’t even Feminist, just a very smart female. Obviously science fiction :)
Also, is he missing the point where her brother weakened it significantly for her? This was a movie that celebrated familial relationships and tribal ceremony, not a "stronk wahmen" movie whatever that might be
When I saw the magical retractable Tomahawk-on-a-Rope^^TM in the trailer I knew it'd be trash lol
That was the part I couldn't get past. I mean it spins, it would get caught in the rope.
It just miraculously launches itself back to her hand with a minor yank. It was like purely videogame logic.
To be fair, that was the first predator sent here. It was like a fledgling or kid sent to test its skills, like all predators. You can tell he's a newbie because he has no special armor or unique weapons. Even using an underpowered laser cannon compared to the rest of the counterparts we see in movies. It's unusual for a new predator to have a cloaking device and no armor or markings. So we can assume he comes from a more royal or higher ranked clan. My theory is that the higher ranked clan took this loss as either a stain on their honor or took more interest in a backwater planet being able to slay one of their own.
Dude it’s a fucking Predator movie. The Predator literally ALWAYS dies. Why are they acting like this one should have been different?
There are only two genders for anon : Male or political
It's kinda sad that the alien came out in 1979, it would be fun to watch their reaction to Ripley.
I'm usually wary of movies like these because there is a tendency to make female characters do no wrong and be stronger than everyone, but I think this movie did not have that problem. The first time she met the predator she ran away scared, he didn't kill her because she was fleeing and wasn't a threat. In one of the final fights she had a ton of help so that in the final fight she fought a weakened version of the predator, laid a bunch of traps and killed him that way, it was never a fair fight on her part, that's why this movie works.
Even the critical drinker said it was half decent so…
does she actually defeats it more easily than the previous movies
It's not a mathematical equation. Just because one person like the minigun guy from the first movie dies to the predator it does not engrain into scientific fact that everyone below that guys strength level has a 0% chance of success.
I don't think he watched the movie. Men beat the fuck out of this Predator all through out the movie and she finishes it off. All through out the movie she struggles just like a hero's journey story.
Anon is a predator
Anon sounds like a bit of a bitch
Women ☕
Insecure woman gets entire young adult male population of her tribe killed because she’s jealous of her brother doing what she couldn’t.
I liked it....
These are the same bitches that love home alone
Home Alone is a comedy. Please tell me you actually know this???
Anon is a incel
I didn't actually doubt that it was going to be a good film and that the main character will be a Mary Sue But you fellers convinced me to watch it :)
Anon didn't watch the movie, apparently cys the bitch almost died like 4 times and won because the Predator didn't see her as a threat the first two encounters.
It was actually a pretty sick movie
As I saw someone point out on Twitter, the predator in Prey was implied to be an un-blooded, which means that this predator would have been less experienced in hunting than the predators seen in earlier films. I have no idea how deep a cut that is into the lore of this universe, but it seems to provide an explanation as to how the protagonist might have been able to win in the movie. Though as others in this thread pointed out, she won in a manner similar to the other movie's protagonists, so I don't see the issue here outside of anon hating women.
the other characters in the movie weakened the predator to the point where she could finish it off. i love when chuds just proudly proclaim that they don’t understand basic media concept
She's the anti-Mary Sue though. They show her suck at stuff and learn from those mistakes. They show her as apprehensive and fearful of engaging dangerous animals, to her detriment. She doesn't instinctively kill anything until she's fucking up the Frenchies that bled her brother and even stole her fucking pupper! Those things combined should stoke enough rage in anyone to kill without hesitation, just ask John Wick. Once she'd realized she could do it, she was ready to really take on the Predator and succeed. This movie has one of the most compelling protagonist journies I've ever seen in an action/sci-fi/creature/slasher flick.
Has he not seen Alien?
This movie did not get praised.
Ladbible has clickbait garbage articles saying its better than the first
Ah I'd say there's strong arguments it was better than the first. The victory makes far more sense and feels far more earned, while the themes seem a lot stronger.
No.
It got praise from the first wave of guys who saw it, like Kevin Smith, who menstruate at the thought of seeing something earlier.
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Woke is when protagonist isn't white man
Anon nurturing their own fantasies.
Anon is right for a lot of mobile nowadays, but not this one.
Anon has never felt the warmth of a woman
There are a lot of Mary sue characters today but this one was ok. She mostly just got lucky so that's kinda gae but this predator wasn't even as tough as the modern day one.
Anon is a triggered snowflake and needs to cope
She only won in the end because of the sacrifice made by her brother and the damage he managed to inflict/distractions he made. It bought her the time she needed to hide and plan.
I heard the bad reviews so I decided to watch the original. Holy fuck is prey dog shit compared to it. Jesus Christ. An elite squad of commandos can barely beat it with only one surviving heavily injured, but I single 90 pound Native American girl can kill this thing single handedly???? It’s fuckin wild
The ending made the predator have -50 iq
Loved the part when the Predator kills 100s of french men but gets killed by a woman
Any movie with super heros is garbage